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Speaker 1: You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio. Hey there, podcast listeners, it's Mango here and

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Speaker 1: today we're doing something a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: It is a trivia game.

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Speaker 1: It is a collaboration with my good power Flora Lickman,

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Speaker 1: host of the wonderful show Science Friday, and it's called

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Speaker 1: the Super Food Science Excellent Trivia Blowout aka as our

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Speaker 1: super producer show Shawna calls it the s F S

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Speaker 1: e t BO, So remember that. Make sure that's how

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Speaker 1: you reference it from here on. But Flora, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for doing this. I know we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about a collaboration forever. I'm just so psyched to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm so thrilled to be here. This is

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Speaker 3: the highlight of twenty twenty five for me.

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Speaker 2: And it's been a long year and we're almost.

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Speaker 3: At the end. So a lot already happened.

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Speaker 2: So are you good at trivia?

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Speaker 3: I'm terrible at trivia. My mind is like a sieve.

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Speaker 3: Like even though I get to learn things, you know,

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Speaker 3: new things every single week on the show, every single

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Speaker 3: day on the show, I don't know. I can't I

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Speaker 3: have difficulty retaining my kids, or maybe I just freeze up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I am so so at trivia and as a kid,

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Speaker 1: I was so so at sports. But those things then

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Speaker 1: diagram really nicely. When you go to the Science Olympics pentathlon.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you do that?

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Speaker 4: Did?

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Speaker 3: Were you there competing?

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Speaker 1: We went to nationals and I'm from Delaware, so it's

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Speaker 1: to get there.

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Speaker 2: But if you're he just said, if you're from California,

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Speaker 2: you have to go through like five rounds.

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Speaker 1: And so like the kids who get there are really

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Speaker 1: good at science, but they cannot throw a frisbee. They

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Speaker 1: can't throw like a basketball into a hoop. And so

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Speaker 1: we I think we came in fourth in nationals and pentathalon,

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Speaker 1: we could do the physical challenges.

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Speaker 3: Is amazing you this story took a complete right turn.

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Speaker 3: You were like, we were complete underdogs, were you're a

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Speaker 3: tiny state, And then you're like, and then we won

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Speaker 3: a fourth.

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Speaker 2: Is not winning?

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Speaker 1: Although I do remember this is how cocky we were

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Speaker 1: as like eighth graders or whatever, is that our group

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Speaker 1: And so when we were walking through the metal detector

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Speaker 1: at the UH at the airport, we wore our metals

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Speaker 1: underneath and then it bothers there.

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I'm so sorry. It must have been this.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm an Olympian. We'll take the pat down.

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Speaker 1: But I'm so excited to do this episode today, so

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Speaker 1: we should get started.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Okay, So let's get started. We reached

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Speaker 3: out to Science Friday listeners, many of you threw your

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Speaker 3: name in the ring, and we have a very special

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Speaker 3: contestant today to play the game with us. Emily is

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Speaker 3: a medical student based in Indianapolis. We have her on

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Speaker 3: the line. Hey Emily, Hi Emily, are you a trivia

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Speaker 3: game veteran?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I have to reach kind of far back to

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Speaker 4: She reminded me that she and I were both not

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Speaker 4: only state trivia champions in high school, but also in

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna crush today.

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Speaker 1: Today's theme is food science, and I don't think your

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Speaker 1: some pretty fun prizes.

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Speaker 2: Emily, are you ready.

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Speaker 4: I'm so ready hit me with your food questions.

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Speaker 1: So number one, pandas are unable to detect which basic taste?

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Speaker 1: Is it a sweet, b sour, c bitter, or d umami?

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Speaker 4: Well, all I can picture is panda's eating green leaves,

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Speaker 2: Oh sweet is very very close, but it is actually

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Speaker 1: Panda ancestors were carnivores, and now, after millions of years

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Speaker 1: on a bamboo based diet, the panda's taste receptors can

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Speaker 4: All right, so starting stone here.

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Speaker 3: While we're here, can I hit you all with an

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Speaker 3: additional panda fun food fact. Yes I did not know this,

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Speaker 3: but pandas spend up to twelve hours a day eating bamboo,

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Speaker 3: which is like me with seaweed snack. But twelve hours

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like when you think of caloric density, and

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Speaker 3: Also, that's exactly it. I love having a medical professional

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Speaker 1: I feel like you came up with the rationale for

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Speaker 1: that very very quickly, which is brilliant. I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: you're on. So why don't we continue Number two? What

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Speaker 1: happens when a food experiences a MYR reaction?

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Speaker 4: I know this.

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Speaker 1: Does it a go bad, B, turn brown, C it

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Speaker 4: I hope it's not D. It's B. It becomes brown

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Speaker 2: That is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it turns brown. It is named for the

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Speaker 1: French chemist who first described it, and this chemical reaction

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked about this on Science Friday with

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Speaker 5: So, if you want more browning, you can think about

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Speaker 5: adding more sugar. But if you can increase the amount

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Speaker 5: of protein and amino acids you have, you'll get like

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Speaker 5: much more browning. It's also very sensitive to pH to

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Speaker 3: Emily, are you like, yeah, duh pronation duh.

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Speaker 4: Was imagining this structure of an amino acid in my head,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, all the words she's saying bally

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, So we're gonna progress to number three.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling you're gonna get this one too.

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Speaker 1: So which American pharmacist developed a scale to measure the

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Speaker 1: pungency or spiciness of chili peppers? Wilbur Scoville, Norville Rogers,

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Speaker 1: John Pepperton, or doctor Pepper Scoville.

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Speaker 4: It's the Scoville heat index.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. His scale measures the amount of dilution required before

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Speaker 3: Are you a chili person a chili pepper person, Emily.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. My kid is. I have an eight year

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a fun fact just for your kid.

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Speaker 3: When you all think about the source of heat in

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Speaker 4: I feel like I read recently that like we all

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Speaker 3: And well, you know too much. Of course, when you

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Speaker 3: have a stage champion trivia person that you already know

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Speaker 3: the thing I'm going to tell you that is exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Here's Paul Boslin, director of the Chili Pepper Institute and

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Speaker 6: It is the veins. It's the crosswall the chili that

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Speaker 6: has the heat. The seeds have no heat, but being

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Speaker 6: one would associate that with the heat, but the walls

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Speaker 6: I'll look like, oh, I'm not bothering me a bit.

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Speaker 6: But it's just a little breeder's joke.

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Speaker 2: We say, I love that. And a breeder's joke is.

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Speaker 4: That sounds diabolical? That's not fair.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's question number four. Which of the falling foods

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Speaker 1: into a diamond. Is it a beef, b peanut butter,

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Speaker 1: see green peppers, or d pop rocks.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm going to go with the carbohydrate based food

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Speaker 4: and say it's pop rocks. Please let it pop us.

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Speaker 3: Also, like you have a scientific rationale which I really love.

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Speaker 3: I want it to be pop rocks too.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it is peanut butter. During an experiment to reproduce

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Speaker 1: the pressure conditions of Earth's lower mantle. The British scientist

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Speaker 1: Daniel Frost successfully forged carbon rich peanut butter into microscopic diamonds.

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Speaker 1: So I guess in this economy we should be yes

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Speaker 4: It's a good investment.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Okay, so this is the final question. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on you, Emily. This is

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Speaker 1: for all the marbles. The unique properties of honey make

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Speaker 1: it one of the few foods that can never do

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Speaker 1: what is it a expire, B freeze, C evaporate or

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Speaker 1: D disappoint.

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Speaker 4: I go with expire and disappoint because honey is delightful.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm on disappoint, never can disappoint.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you are right on both counts, so you got

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Speaker 2: But the answer we had here is expire.

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Speaker 1: So, due to its low moisture content, natural acidity, and

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Speaker 1: the presence of hydrogen peroxide, honey doesn't foster the growth

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Speaker 1: of spoilage organisms such as bacteria, and that is how

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Speaker 1: archaeologists have been able to find three thousand year old

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Speaker 1: pots of honey that are still perfickly edible.

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Speaker 4: Would you try that?

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Speaker 1: I think I would if someone told me it was safe.

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Speaker 1: So Flora, you want to tell Emily what she's won.

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Speaker 3: I would love to. Emily, you have won an amazing

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Speaker 3: assortment of Science Friday and Part Time Genius merch.

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Speaker 1: And as always, we're going to throw in an atomic fireball,

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Speaker 1: which is the official sciencey candy of Part Time Genius.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: But that's not all. Because you did so well, we're

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Speaker 3: also going to send you a bottle of Linna Weber's

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Speaker 3: Hot Honey, which one just like you, the grand prize

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Speaker 3: in this year's Scovie Awards and is made in your

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Speaker 3: home state of Indiana.

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Speaker 4: All right, Indiana. Thanks guys, thank you, thank you for playing.

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Speaker 3: Emily.

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