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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Mistake Free Football. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals played Anything Button Mistake Free on Monday night, and

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Speaker 1: here we are talking about another loss at home, another

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Speaker 1: loss in prime time, another loss period. Though to be fair,

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Speaker 1: there have only been three of them all season, and

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Speaker 1: that's where we need to begin. Let's not lose side

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Speaker 1: of the big picture, even though that picture is a

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Speaker 1: bit blurry. Here the day after, it's Cardinals Covered two,

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Speaker 1: Episode five O nine, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig, Gria, Lou and Mike.

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Speaker 1: You'recki going to try to be optimistic here to start

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Speaker 1: the show on Jay. Admittedly it's not going to be easy,

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Speaker 1: but that's why you're here. You tend to be more grounded,

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Speaker 1: especially after losses. Here's the big picture. Bird Gang. Ten wins.

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Speaker 1: Ten wins in thirteen games. First place in the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: one of the top four teams in the NFC. That's

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Speaker 1: where the Cardinals are, even after a very disappointing loss

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. Yeah, and if you look at it,

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Speaker 1: you know Green Base ten and three, Tampas ten and three,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are ten and three. So it's not ideal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get into particulars, but they still control

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Speaker 1: their own destiny. Obviously, you know, they got to clean

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Speaker 1: to be you know, this team, to me didn't play

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Speaker 1: ten and three, and there's only three teams that have

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Speaker 1: three losses in the entire National Football League. The downside

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Speaker 1: to what you just said is the Cardinals go from

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Speaker 1: the one seed to the three seed because of tiebreakers.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are the one seed because they have a

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Speaker 1: better conference record than the Buccaneers and Cardinals. Packers are

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Speaker 1: Now the Buccaneers have the tiebreaker over the Cardinals because

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Speaker 1: of strength of victory. That is what I read on

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Speaker 1: ESPN earlier on Monday morning. I don't exactly know how

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Speaker 1: it's conference tiebreaker, goes head to head record within conference

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, there's other ways to differentiate how you

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Speaker 1: get where you're placed. And right now the Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: looking up. But to your points, there are still four

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Speaker 1: of that head to head losing to the Packers on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, But the Packers still have to go

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Speaker 1: then close out the year at Detroit. The Buccaneers meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: And now that's been thrown up into the air literally

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Speaker 1: They made it personal and Aaron Donald was a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying on the other side, so let's just

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Speaker 1: take the other side. You kick it, and all of

430
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: a sudden, you haven't out Now is it easier to

431
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: get a field goal than a touchdown? Sure, but James

432
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: Connor has been money the entire season. Now, now should

433
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: we include that you're going against the Rams front four?

434
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he Connor got a lot of his stuff

435
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: outside in the passing game. There was time as he

436
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: was he had the direct snap, but they weren't really

437
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: running up the middle on these guys. So I got

438
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: to take an equation how good the defense line and

439
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: they're trying to make up Obviously they knew that if

440
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: they stop them there, it's going to be difficult for

441
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: the Cardinals to come back and win the game. So

442
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: there's there's there's so many I get it, and you're right,

443
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: you can't have it both ways. When you when they

444
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: get a first down on fourth down and then say well,

445
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: why didn't you kick a field call? I'm just saying

446
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: to me down in distance in the game and who

447
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: you're playing should come into the equation. And on that

448
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: particular play, call out of the shotgun the direct snap

449
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: to James Conner and actually actually was a handoff to

450
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: James Connor, but there was pressure up the middle. The

451
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: offensive line didn't do its job, so as far as

452
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: the decision to go for it is one thing, and

453
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: then what play do you run is another conversation. And

454
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: there's the play call, and then there's the execution of

455
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: the playing. The latter did not work. It's not the

456
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: play call or the play design, it's the play execution.

457
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: And the Rams blew up that play to where James

458
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Connor had nowhere to go. So now all of a sudden,

459
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: your back penal go, wait, should kick the field goal? Craig,

460
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: you hit it right on the head execution. And then

461
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: we had a couple of people calling the game, why

462
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: don't they roll out Kyler Murray. I've always felt like

463
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: and he was getting to the edge, but you know,

464
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: I always think when you want to get a yard

465
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: north and south and again, but I have to look

466
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: at the Rams front four. I mean, but I mean

467
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Rodney Hudson is one of the best centers

468
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: in football. I mean Max Garcia. He may and I

469
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 1: started off well, but he can you know, he can

470
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: get a little push. But then people were calling, well,

471
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: I want to see Kyler roll out. I'm not a

472
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: fan of that. I'll live with the going for fourth

473
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: and one with James Conner. He's been the man all year.

474
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: Look at the touchdowns, look at the short yardage stuff.

475
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just trying to give you know,

476
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: I'm not second guessing. Because you hit it right on

477
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: the head. You can call the best play in the world.

478
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: If they don't execute it all eleven guys, it's not

479
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: gonna work. The only thing I'll say, and I've been

480
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: pretty consistent about this, I'm not a fan of shotgun.

481
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: When it's fourth and short, fourth and goal line to

482
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: go or third and goal to go, that I'm not

483
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: a fan of. Now that's that's Kingsbury's philosophy. It's never

484
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna change. But I don't like that because now all

485
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got to go five yards to

486
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: gain one as opposed to maybe just two yards to

487
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: gain one. Well, I mean, Tom Brady's made a killing

488
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: off this. I mean, but he's six foot five and

489
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: he just puts the ball or I just don't think

490
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: they want Kyler to dive into the pile. I mean,

491
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: because those guys are coming at you. But I totally

492
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: agree with you. But to me, it's it's you know,

493
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Speaker 1: you can do it more on the goal line, then

494
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: maybe you the twenty yard line. I think you can

495
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: get away with it a little bit more able when

496
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: you still when the field starts getting a little bit shorter,

497
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I think it changes thirty to twenty three. The final

498
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: good discussion there as far as when to go for

499
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: it when not? Do you kick a field goal and

500
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Speaker 1: you go forward? I look, I understand both sides. I

501
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from, MJ. But it is easy

502
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: to play Monday morning quarterback or in this case, Tuesday

503
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: morning quarterback as opposed to in the moment, and in

504
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: the moment even listening to pass and wipefully on the broadcast,

505
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: not much hesitation or discussion on their part, and I

506
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: didn't really get the sense like, oh, maybe you should

507
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: kick a field goal here with five twenty seven to go.

508
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: It's just I'm conditioned to expect Cliff Kingsbury to roll

509
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: the offense out there on fourth down, whether it's one

510
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: yard two yards, and at the end of the day,

511
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: bird Gang, if you can't get one or two yards,

512
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: then you don't deserve to win. Well said, no, you're

513
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I'm a big body of work guy.

514
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to be you know, wishy washy from

515
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: one week to another. Body of works as they go

516
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down from week one to now.

517
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Speaker 1: And I give him credit because he said I'm going

518
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Speaker 1: for it. I mean, if it works, everyone's happy. Oh

519
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: that's a great call, Cliff, It's all they needed. It

520
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: was a one yard you're right. If you can't get

521
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: one yard. I mean that Again, this comes on the players.

522
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: They he makes the call. And again, if all eleven

523
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: guys are doing their job, it works. But if it

524
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: gets the pile gets blown up, then it doesn't work.

525
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: And we sit here and second guest the head coach,

526
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: and we've done that now, especially after home games for

527
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: three consecutive games, how much how much of it is

528
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: a concern for U MJ scale one to ten or whatever.

529
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: The fact that this team, while they're seven to zero

530
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: on the road, they're just three and three at home.

531
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: It's concerning because depending on where their seating is, they

532
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: could host a home playoff game and you're gonna play

533
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Speaker 1: I mean, if they get a chance to still win

534
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: the division. Okay, they're gonna take care of business, but

535
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a team that's playing well down the stretch.

536
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: When you look at the five, six and seven seeds,

537
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing. Well, that's how they're gonna get in.

538
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a bunch of seven and six

539
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: teams and six and seven more in the AFC, six

540
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: and seven, seven and six in the in the NFC.

541
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's concerned. Now if you go

542
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: nine and oh on the road, that's great, but you

543
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: want to hold you win your division, Craig. That's every

544
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: team's goal going into the season when they have a

545
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: team meeting, is we want to win our division. And

546
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: that means you're guaranteed to host a playoff game. And

547
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: then when you get to December and then you look

548
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: at seatings and then you look, oh, I want to

549
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: be a one or two seat. I mean, but that's

550
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: the goal is to host a playoff game. And so

551
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: if you're going to host a playoff game, you're gonna

552
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: have to play much better at home. Cardinals began the

553
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: season three and zero at home, beating the Vikings, beating

554
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, beating the Texans. But now you

555
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: lose to the Panthers, the Packers, and now the Los

556
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. So it is something that was talked a

557
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: lot about going into this game. It's going to continue

558
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: to be talked about after the team goes to Detroit.

559
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: And now you come back with the Colts on Christmas Day,

560
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: and why this team is struggling at home? And I

561
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: say struggling loosely, because look, they had an opportunity to

562
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: beat the Packers one play away, had the opportunity to

563
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: beat the Rams one drive away from sending that game

564
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: in an overtime, and we talked about it. They didn't

565
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: play well enough to win the ball game, yet still

566
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: gave themselves a chance. The only one negative as far

567
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: as home performance was the Panthers game, but that happens

568
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: to every team homer a road. There's always gonna be

569
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: that one game. Now it was a shootout against the Vikings.

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers game was a hard fought game

571
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: that came down one possession. But this team does need

572
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: to figure out not why, because I can tell you why.

573
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: This team is not playing well at home. Exactly. They

574
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: are minus seven at home compared to plus seventeen on

575
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Speaker 1: the road when it comes to turnover differential. So there

576
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: is the reason. Now, it's okay, how do you correct it?

577
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: And our guys pressing too much to where they try

578
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: to make a big play or don't want to make

579
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: miss stakes to the point where they do make mistakes.

580
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: I eat Kyler Murray with two interceptions. One he said

581
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: it would have been a touchdown if it wasn't tipped.

582
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: He thought it was a good read Zach Aaron Donald

583
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: tipped it Zach Erst with the intended target. And then

584
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: the second one, he just couldn't get the ball quite

585
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: over the arms of Leonard Floyd. Great play by him,

586
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Urts again the intended receiver. But little things like that

587
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: add up. But gotta be able to protect the football.

588
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: If you had the football, you can score. If you don't,

589
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: you can't. And that goal line interception, that was a

590
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: fourteen points wing. You go in ten nothing and you

591
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: come out of that trailing seven to three. And the

592
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals gave the Rams fourteen points off those two turnovers.

593
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Against the Bears, it was twenty three points off of

594
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: four takeaways. And now you're on the other side of

595
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: that as a Cardinals fan looking at wait a second,

596
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: that's fourteen points and you'll lose by seven. Yeah, And

597
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: normally it comes down to five or six plays every game,

598
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: and usually you'll focus on the second half. But I

599
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: do think that interception where they could have won up

600
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: ten oh, that came back to haunt them late in

601
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: the game. I really do that was if you go

602
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: ten oh, all of a sudden, Vans can do a

603
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: little bit more different things with the secondary in the

604
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: front seven, and you know, one of the keys and

605
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: maybe it was the X factor or the intangible win

606
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the turnover battle, and they did not win the turnover

607
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: battle and make them, you know, force Matthew Stafford to

608
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: make tight throws and he was he was. You know,

609
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: he played really well last night. And he doesn't get

610
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot of credit just because he doesn't have a

611
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: great win loss record against teams that I have a

612
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: winning record over five hundred. But he played well and

613
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: that's the reason why they went out and got him

614
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: over Jerikoff. Hard to imagine that the turning point of

615
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: a ball game happens with less than four minutes to

616
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: go in the first quarter. Play later in games tend

617
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: to be more magnified, especially in the fourth quarter. But

618
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I like what you said. You go back to that

619
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: interception at the goal line. You're going in for no

620
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: less than three points, but you were moving that football

621
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to go up ten. Nothing change the complexion for

622
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Sean McVay to do something different early in the game

623
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to kind of get his offense going and you turn

624
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: it over. So to me, yeah, that is a significant

625
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: turning point in the ball game to where I do

626
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: think it affected how the rest of the game was

627
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: played because the Cardinals at that point. Yeah, they did

628
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: tie it up at ten. It was thirteen thirteen at halftime.

629
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: But you're playing catchup and this team their m is

630
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to get the early lead and play with the lead,

631
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: get ahead. Obviously all teams want to do that, but

632
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: the fact that this team is trailing, especially at home,

633
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a tougher hill to climb. Well, it comes

634
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: down to points and if so, either you get three

635
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: years seven they get nothing. And then the Rams score

636
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: a touchdown off that drive of that pick, both of

637
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: the interceptions they score touchdowns. Correct. Correct? Okay, so it's

638
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: first and five at the Rams five yard line, first

639
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: in goal four forty two, James Conner for one yard,

640
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: second and four from the four Kyler Murray pass. You're

641
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: so close. I mean again, if the Paul's not tipped, touchdown,

642
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: probably but I just thought he locked in on zach Ertz.

643
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: And that's why I give Ernest Jones credit because he

644
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: jumped that route. Now a tip ball it changes everything.

645
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like second and four in you in,

646
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: you're going on a nice drive. You you had. I

647
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: think they picked up least three two or three first downs.

648
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: They were getting positive yards. Uh you know on his

649
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: first and second down was first and ten, second and

650
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: nine thirty nine first and ten. So again just second guessing,

651
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: but I would think when you're down there at the

652
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: four yard line, even if Kyler wants to do RPO

653
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: and he walks in the end zone, link he has before. Again,

654
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: they must have felt that they'd like the match up

655
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: and zach Ertz, he's pretty If you throw the ball

656
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: to him, he's gonna catch it. It's just unfortunate at

657
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: the timing of it. And again it's it's the first quarter.

658
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: But they didn't get any points out of that. Running

659
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: the ball was tough sledding the entire game, and that's

660
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: a top ten defense against the run, and it might

661
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: become harder even when you're within five yards because the

662
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: whole line to feel good shorter and that point maybe

663
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: the option, and they felt that they had the advantage

664
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: to spread them out as far as give Kyler Murray

665
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more room to work as opposed to

666
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: running it. Because, Yeah, James Connor did have two touchdown

667
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: runs and probably you should have only had one the

668
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: first one in which that was it. The first one, Yeah,

669
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: the first one when he was stopped and then for

670
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: what I don't know how, but Aaron Donald could not

671
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: bring him down, and then he found some opening, he

672
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: saw some daylight on the left side on that fourth

673
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: down call from the one yard line. Again, going forward

674
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: on fourth down in that situation trailing by seven, ten

675
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: to three, or kick a field goal, you're gonna go

676
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: forward nine times out of ten, or even ten times

677
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: out of ten. With Cliff Kingsbury as the head coach,

678
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: especially that close to the goal line, you need points,

679
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: especially going up against Matthew Stafford and the Rams. But

680
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: James Conner has been unbelievable this season as far as

681
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: in the red zone and once again another unbelievable one

682
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: handed grab. He is quickly becoming not only a weapon

683
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: with his legs, with his hands as well as far

684
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: as being a receiving threat. Yeah, and you know, hopefully

685
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: they can get Chase Edmonds back. I definitely think they

686
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: miss Chase maybe from the twenties to the twenties again,

687
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: not to save here, and you know, we'll know more

688
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: during the week. I think they were hoping he would

689
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: make more progress last week. I guess it's more about

690
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: him cutting. He can run north and south, but it's

691
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: about stopping on a dime, and you just don't want

692
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: to make sure. But I think getting him back in

693
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: the offense, I think that will help. We'll find out

694
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: more during the week. Hopefully they came out clean. According

695
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: to Kingsbury on some of the injuries, they're not as

696
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: serious as they thought, but you always got to wait

697
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: a day after. We won't know anything until they get

698
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: back on the practice field. But yeah, I mean I

699
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: can't say enough about James Conner. That was the only

700
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: mistake Aaron Donald miss where he couldn't bring him down

701
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: the way he runs, and there was a time when

702
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: they had four or five guys on him and he

703
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: still wouldn't go down. I mean, again, it's got to

704
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: be contagious. And I just love his personality and just

705
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: his demeanor. I mean, that was just a great pick up,

706
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just unfortunate because they had an

707
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to clinch a playoff earth last night, and you

708
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: know what, the Rams came in and punched him in

709
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: the face and they were more desperate, and he treated

710
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: like a playoff game. I wish the Cardinals would have

711
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: done that. James Connor now with at least one touchdown

712
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: in seven consecutive games. That ties the franchise record. He's

713
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: got fourteen rushing touchdowns this season, sixteen total touchdowns on

714
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: the year, counting his two receiving scores. So James Conner, Yeah,

715
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: his per carry average is not great, but he's getting

716
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: you points. He's getting you touchdowns and two scores on

717
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Unfortunate that it was not able to

718
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: get any more than that. But twenty two total touches

719
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: for James Conner for one hundred and twenty five yards.

720
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Nine catches for ninety four yards. You talked about Kyler

721
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Murray scrambling a lot because of the pressure. I don't

722
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: know if you want James Connor that high of a

723
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: number as far as receptions are concerned, unless that's what

724
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: the defense dictated. And I think for a large part

725
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: it did, but they would go away from it as well. Yeah,

726
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I think what's happening there is you know Kyler is

727
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: getting pressure and you notice sometimes they'll leiva a running

728
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: back or a wide receiver on the sidelines for a checkdown,

729
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: and you know they're getting pressure, and he sees it

730
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: and he trusts him throwing the ball to him. So

731
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: I think that's what's happening there. I mean, are you

732
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: surprised that Kyler is running this much in the last

733
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: couple of games against Chicago? I think whether dictated it.

734
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: It was hard to get that run game going, and

735
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: I think the Rams dictated Kyler Murray running the foot

736
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: cootball on Monday Night football because there was no running

737
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: room for James Connor and they weren't operating on short field.

738
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of what Kyler Murray had

739
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: to do was because, and this is what we've talked about,

740
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray can run when it's necessary, and he needed

741
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: to run in order to kind of open up that

742
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: offense against the Rams. But no seven carries for sixty

743
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: one yards. I don't want to see that. I'd have

744
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: to go back and look how seventeen Now again, we

745
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: got to make sure the weather because they only threw

746
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: the ball fifteen times eleven or fifteen, but they ran it,

747
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, thirty five kill. He had fifty one or

748
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: fifty three offensive play, so there is again it was

749
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: more of a necessity, as Kingsbury said, him running the

750
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: football in that game. I think a lot of what

751
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: the running was because Kyler was running for his life. Yeah,

752
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean for self preservation, just so he wouldn't get hit. Yeah,

753
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: but I did. It reminded me of the Packers game,

754
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of some of the games this

755
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: rookie season where you just started running, run, You're turning

756
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: your back on the defense. Now he's so dynamic you

757
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: can get out of there. And the one scramble was

758
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: it what eighteen yards or something, So you just don't know.

759
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: But I mean they ran the ball twenty two times,

760
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: one hundred and three yards four point seven Kyler at

761
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: sixty one yards, Connor thirty one yards, two touchdowns, and

762
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: then Ron del Moore two carries or two throws behind

763
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage for eleven yards. So again, Connor's

764
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: been carrying the ball twenty plus times and it wasn't

765
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: like they were down by three scores. Again, the offensive line,

766
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: they just could not run the football consistently, and that's

767
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: why probably Kylo had to throw the ball forty nine times.

768
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: You don't want that number. You talk about thirty plus carries.

769
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: I don't want forty plus pass attempts because that kind

770
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: of signals that you're playing catchup. And the Cardinals were

771
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: for a darn near that entire ball game. I went

772
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: back and watched the highlight this morning. Stafford, that was

773
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: a fumble. He when I walk back, I mean he

774
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: wasn't ready to throw it. His arm was up, but

775
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: that ball should and you talked about it, you were

776
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: on it from the get go. I'm glad you brought

777
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: it up because if you listen to Cardinal talk one

778
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: io Buddha Baker and apology because it looked like at

779
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the time that he was one of those players. But

780
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: it was and I watched it back as well. Still

781
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: still very odd play that Chandler Jones hit Stafford's arm

782
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: and it looked like the arm was going forward. The

783
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: ball is loose, and it's recovered by Stafford a good

784
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: what five seven yards downfield, which which is amazing that

785
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback is able to do it. But it's Jordan Phillips,

786
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: it's Zach Allen, and it's Jalen Thompson. Those were the

787
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: three players that stopped Corey. Peters was over there running

788
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: and Buddha Baker was over there running as well. But

789
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: on first glance it looked like Baker was one of

790
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: those players that wasn't going after the football. But that

791
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: again situational awareness. Unless you hear the whistle, thanks doesn't matter.

792
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Get that football. Yeah, And everyone wondered was at a fumbler?

793
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: He was getting ready but he again that was a

794
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: fumble and I initially read M and I started seeing

795
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter is that Buddha went over to Jordan Phillips

796
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: and said, you know what happened here? I mean, so

797
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: that's the leadership of Buddha Baker. But there was two

798
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: or three guys around there, no whistle, jump on the ball,

799
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: and again little things, a missed opportunity. Drive continued. That

800
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: was another drive and we talked about Robert Offord getting

801
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: a defensive hold call. You would have been off the

802
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: field kick a field goal instead of score a touchdown.

803
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: So it would have been twenty four thirteen as opposed

804
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: to twenty seven thirteen at that point in the ball game,

805
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips overall, I thought had a he did good game,

806
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: a sack, tackle for lost quarterback, hit five tackles. Overall,

807
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: that was probably one of his best games this year.

808
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Besides you know playing you know there's certain games where

809
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: he'll blow up the pile and allows so other guys

810
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. But I thought he was

811
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: disruptive based on what the rams were doing. And we

812
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: talk about turnovers if he's just easy for me to

813
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: say because these guys they're they're well educated about hearing

814
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: the whistle, but that would have been a turnover. And

815
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: we'll go back to the theme of this edition of

816
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover Too, presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the

817
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, Clean Football. Too many mistakes, turnovers, penalties, drop passes,

818
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: miss tackles, and just situational awareness, field awareness down in distance,

819
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: knowing what he has needed on that particular play to

820
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: get yourself in position for a score or to get

821
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: yourself off the field if you're the defense. So again,

822
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: ten wins, yes, but when you're looking at these three losses,

823
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: the trends, why is it happening slow starts, turning the

824
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: ball over. You've got to be able to be better

825
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: if you hope to have an extended playoff run. This

826
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: team is going to make the postseason. One more win

827
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: will clinch it. So that's they're going to win another

828
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: game here over the next four and it better happened

829
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: next week at Detroit. But if you want to sustained run,

830
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: if you want a couple of home games, or if

831
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you have to go on the road for a week

832
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: or two, you have to play cleaner football. And the

833
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals have not done that in these three losses. And

834
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: I'll even go back to the win against Chicago. That

835
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a particularly well played ball game, whether conditions aside.

836
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Yet it's against Chicago, quality of opponent matters as well,

837
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: but it it was the difference in that game the defense.

838
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: They set the tone early. Now, so the game is

839
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: tied at halftime, correct, correct? All right? Third quarter, Michael

840
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: goes for two yards, Matthew Stafford throws to Cooper Cup.

841
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: Then Simmons gets the unnecessary roughness where technically he did

842
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: touch the back of the head, and then they give

843
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: up a touchdown there. Now it's twenty to thirteen, and

844
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: then the next time, Kyler throws an interception to Leonard

845
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Floyd two plays and then the Rams get the ball

846
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: back and Cooper Cup scores a touchdown. Now it's twenty

847
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: seven thirteen. In a matter of minutes, four minutes, the

848
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: game flips to where you're down fourteen points. Yeah, I mean,

849
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: and you got to think they made halftime adjustments. I mean,

850
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: they knew that they were going to try to if

851
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: they were going to try to throw the ball around him,

852
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: you had to defend Cooper Cup and Jefferson and obviously Beckham,

853
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: and they threw their tight ends a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: just more dump off and safety that. But coming out

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Speaker 1: in a third quarter, the first drive they get a

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Speaker 1: fifty two yard bomb, you got to think, all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go again, and it's only twenty to thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you get the interception

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Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup gets that four yard touchdown, which I

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00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: don't think it was a great throw, was a great cash.

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Speaker 1: I thought Marco Wilson was in position to make the play.

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Speaker 1: And I was twenty seven thirteen and it's still nine

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00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter. Cardinals had been one

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00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the third quarter as far

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Speaker 1: as scoring points and limiting points, and that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Once again, little details that are starting to add up

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Speaker 1: for this Cardinals team, especially against the quality of opponent

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Speaker 1: like the Los Angeles Rams. One final point here before

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Speaker 1: we call it an afternoon or should say call it

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Speaker 1: a day here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday,

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00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals have not watched a

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Speaker 1: lot of the national conversation, but this is what it's

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: going to be. Oh went two And for a lot

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00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: of people, MJ. Those are the only two games Packers

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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football, Rams on Monday Night Football, the

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Speaker 1: only two games many people have seen in the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals play both one possession losses, but their losses and

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00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's gonna be Packers and

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers and then who because the Cardinals right now are

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00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: not in that conversation. Well, I mean, I had Cardinal

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00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: fans before the game telling me, well, the narrative when

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00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: we beat the Rams is they didn't have all their

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00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: good players. It's the NFL, And I went, I brought

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Speaker 1: up the Packers game. I'm like they were their top

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00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: two receivers now Aaron Rodgers versus Matthew Stafford, there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a difference, right And with the Packers had two

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Speaker 1: running backs, the Rams they had one running back, Stony

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00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Michelle one running back. So yeah, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: it's just disappointing that they had an opportunity to take

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Speaker 1: care of business at home. Great crowd last night. Props

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00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: to the Red Sea in the Bird game, you guys

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00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: showed up. Um you were chanting before the game before

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00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: we go. Though, it was caught on television when Jefferson

894
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: caught that touchdown pass and father Sean Jefferson on the

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00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: other side upset and also Rams social media postgame caught

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00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson handing the game ball to father Sean Jefferson.

897
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: A great moment between father and son. But yeah, that's

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00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: this is twice now. At Los Angeles, Dad gets the win.

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Speaker 1: At Arizona, son gets the win. So the Jeffersons are

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00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: one and one this season. Now, there was a quote

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00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: out there that every time he plays, I'm rooting for

902
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: but when you see it on television, he is not

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00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: happy and it's his son. It was just it was

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Speaker 1: a great, great job by Monday Night Football to capture that,

905
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Speaker 1: but it was he was not happy. It was his son.

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Speaker 1: And there's quotes that I root from every time he's

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Speaker 1: on the field, and when he's on the other team,

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00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: that's I gotta kick out of that. That was really funny,

909
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: and it's just that's the life of a father and

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00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: a son. Where he works for the Cardinals, but that's

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00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: his blood and I'm glad they had a chance to

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Speaker 1: enjoy it after the game, and we'll see if there

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Speaker 1: is a third meeting potentially in the postseason. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Drew Stanton before the game and

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm more concerned with Jefferson than i am Beckham.

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Speaker 1: He told me that because you know, I thought I

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Speaker 1: thought put Murphy on Cooper Coup. Sorry, that was a

918
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: mismatch this guy this time around. It they did a

919
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Speaker 1: really good job the first time thirteen targets, five catches,

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Speaker 1: and I would have put Alfred on Beckham, and then

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Speaker 1: because of Marco Wilson's speed, I would have had him

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Speaker 1: on Jefferson. But it looks like they are playing more

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Speaker 1: man than zone. But Drew Stanton before the game said,

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Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about Jefferson than Beckham. Well, he's been

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Speaker 1: more consistent. I know OBJ hasn't been with Rams for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time, but Van Jefferson has really

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Speaker 1: come into his own and that's another their weapon along

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Speaker 1: with the Cooper Cup and Robert Woods. So I know

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Speaker 1: was out, but there's a lot of skilled position players

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Speaker 1: and that Ram's offense. Yeah, and he runs really good routes,

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Speaker 1: so props to him. I like his size, I like

932
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Speaker 1: the way he runs his routes. He's got a nice stride.

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Speaker 1: And that was just a great throw. And I thought

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Speaker 1: Kyler had some great throws to Christian Kirk. I thought

935
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Speaker 1: aj game probably had his best game over a hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I wish there was a minis communication there. And we

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Speaker 1: can talk about this all day, but at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Cardinal fans his son came up today.

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Speaker 1: There's only three teams in the NFL that have three losses,

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Speaker 1: and that would be the Packers, the Buccaneers, and the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, now you got to

942
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Speaker 1: start worrying about you know, what's behind you, but take

943
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Speaker 1: care of business in these next four games, and you

944
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Speaker 1: know the goal is to win the division. Host a

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Speaker 1: playoff game, regardless of what the record is at home.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was a good experience for Kyler

947
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Speaker 1: Murray another time on primetime. So now it's not going

948
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Speaker 1: to be as big because the Packers game he was

949
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Speaker 1: running around again. He gets hurt in that game. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was run and around again, and I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good experience for Kyler to be in these big moments.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got to close the game and finish thirty

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Speaker 1: to twenty three the final on Monday Night Football. It

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Speaker 1: is a short week. We'll see how this team responds.

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Speaker 1: They've responded well after losses so far this season, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that matchup against the Detroit Lions as

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Speaker 1: the week progresses. On that note, we will put a

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Speaker 1: lid on This edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunday proud partner, The Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer, Jim. I'm a hundred for Mike Jarecky.

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Speaker 1: I'm greig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two.