1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: They don't necessarily fear in Israeli strike that many belief 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: could still happen. What they do fears that all this 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: could continue to balloon into some sort of wider crisis 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: or armed conflict here in the Middle East that could 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: in the end pit Iran directly against the United States. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: And one of the things that we've actually been able 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: to do is we've actually been able to travel through 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: a substantial part of the northern part of the country. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: When you go into the cities there, you do see 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: a lot of billboards and posters hanging around professing loyalty 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: to Hezbolah. One of the big things that you see 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: there is flag saying his Bola is alive, obviously playing 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: on the fact that so many of the Hisbolah leaders 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: have been killed. 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: That's interesting. That was from CNNA lead yesterday. Iran not 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: so worried about an Israel strike, They're worried about war 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: with the United States. Well, good, that's what deterrence is. 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: And there hasn't been enough. 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 2: Goal, don't escalate. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there hasn't been enough people worried about us escalating. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 4: So it sounds like maybe Iran is Benjamin Nett and 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: Yahoo with a message to the people of Lebanon. Yesterday, 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: any who in Bremmer tweeted out a dramatic shift in 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: war goals from the Israeli Prime Minister. It went from 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: pushing back Hesbela from the border and returning the Israelis 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: to their homes. Sixty thousand Israelis that have had to 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: leave their homes and have been away for a year. 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: That's crazy, can you imagine. 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: No, the goal is now removing Hesbla from power, the 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 4: most serious escalation from Israel since the war in Gaza began. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: This is the biggest escalation announced escalation since the whole 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: thing began. Our goal is now to eliminate Hesbela. 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: So you have to keep in mind they're a political 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: party with an army, which is crazy by American standards, certainly, 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: but Hesbela is enormously influential in Lebanese politics. 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: So going through some of the information that came out yesterday, 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Iran warned a whole bunch of golf country countries that 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: any use of their airspace by Israel or the United 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: States against Iran, they will face retaliation. 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, they're either scared or they're not. 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: The US State Department said yesterday that they support Israeli 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: ground operations in southern Lebanon and do not support any 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: kind of ceasefire between Israel and Hesbela, with statements earlier 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: by Hisbel officials calling for a ceasefire. So I thought 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: that was interesting. Hesbola came out yesterday if you weren't 49 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: paying attention and said, okay, we want to cease fire now, 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: and our State Department actually said nat no ceasefires. 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: I was surprised by that. It's a head spinnerbout this. 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know good. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know Amos Yadlin, former major 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: general in the Israeli Air Force as well as the 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 4: former head of the Israeli military intelligence. So like that, 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: you know they're d And I set on CNN yesterday 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: the Israeli attack on Iran will be something that has 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: never been seen since seen in the Middle East. Okay, 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: so that sounds big. This also from os I in 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 4: t that's open source intelligence According to US officials, the 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: United States has discussed options for joining Israel's retaliation against Iran, 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: including very limited strikes against targets inside of Iran, targets 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: against Iranian naval assets, as well as targeting of the 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: Revolutionary Guard core sites in Syria and Yemen. These though 65 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: these are seen as less likely as a just intelligence sharing, 66 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: Like we would help them with the important intelligence you 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: would need to pull that Off's opposed to like actual 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: US planes or anything like that. But we're going to 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: help them out, but not with well, I'll read this. 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: According to two US officials who spoke to NBC, Israel 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: is still not yet brief the United States on their 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: response to the ballistic missile attack, Despite officials telling Israel 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: that they would possibly support them with intelligence and additional strikes, 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: US officials do not believe that Israel has made the 75 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: final decision. So the big New York Times story yesterday 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: that we referenced but I hadn't read yet, which has 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: got like ten different writers on it, including David Sanger, 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: who is probably the best writer on this sort of stuff, 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: says that Israel doesn't have the capability to take out 80 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: those nuclear sites. The United States does. Israel doesn't. So 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: that's why France and Great Britain made the announcement yesterday 82 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 4: they will not aid the United States in any trying 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: to or Israel in any trying to take out those sites. 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: So it's basically telling the United States, you do this, 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: you're completely on your own. We realize if this happens, 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: it's going to be you United States, not Israel, and 87 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: we're not. 88 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: Okay with it. That's basically what that announcement was. 89 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeh, or even we want the world to know it 90 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: wasn't us could be yeah, because they have, you know, 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: similar capabilities, maybe not as good, but similar. 92 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: While much of the public discussion is focused on the 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: fact that Iran could almost certainly ramp up enrichment to 94 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: produce bomb grade uranium in a matter of weeks, the 95 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: more relevant fact is that it would take Iranian engineers 96 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: months or maybe a year to actually fashion that fuel 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: into a deliverable weapon. 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: I thought that was good to know. 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Iran has stepped up production of Iranian and rich 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: to sixty percent purity, just shy of bomb grade, and 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: it now has enough of that fuel for three or 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: four bombs, experts believe, and getting it to bomb grade 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: at ninety percent would just take days. So I guess 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: getting the uranium the bomb grade is something that they 105 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: can do in a couple of days. Actually fashioning it 106 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: into a weapon they could deliver anywhere is months or 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: a year. 108 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was reading about the the mechanics of the 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: triggering mechanism for nuclear arms, and it's much more complicated 110 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: than I'd imagined. It's very, very sophisticated. 111 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: Technically, We're the only ones that have these thirty thousand 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: pound bombs that are necessary to reach these Iranian facilities 113 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: that are way underground. Israel doesn't have that we do, 114 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: and the planes necessary to actually drop them. But I 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: thought this was interesting if you, just like me, have 116 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: a tendency to call Joe Biden a do nothing chicken. 117 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: President George W. 118 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: Bush turned aside Israel's demands to give its air force 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: the United States biggest bunker busting bombs and the B 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: two bombers that are needed to deliver them. Those weapons 121 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: would be essential in any effort to take out four 122 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: Toho and some of the other facilities. Bush said no. 123 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 4: That decision touched off an argument inside the White House. 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: Back in the day. 125 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: Vice President Dick Cheney embraced the idea of a strike 126 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: no shock, but Bush held fast, arguing that the United 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: States could not risk another war in the Middle East, 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: probably thinking this whole Iraq thing has gone, so well, 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: how about let's not fight Iraq and Iran at the 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: same time. 131 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say that the circumstances 132 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: were very different, but there you go. 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: Ahud Barak, who was Prime minister and Israel's highest ranking 134 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: uniformed officer at one point, gave an interview back in 135 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen that said Bush's warning did not really make 136 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: any difference for US as of the end of two 137 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: thousand and eight. He said Israel did not have a 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: plan for attacking Iran. They didn't have the capability, but 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: so Bush turned down giving them the stuff to do it. 140 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: So it's not the first time we've said, nah, we're 141 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: not all in on taking out those facilities. 142 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure why. Oh, and then I wanted 143 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: to play this. 144 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: So this is oppositeosition to what's the prime minister up 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: in Canada, the pretty boy what's his name? 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Trudeau? 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, justin Trudeau. This is the opposition to Trudeau. 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: He was asked if. 149 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: He garf model Justin Trudeau. 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: This guy was asked if he would support a strike 151 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: on Iran's nuclear bomb facilities and if Israel were. 152 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: To stop that genocidal, theocratic, unstable government from acquiring nuclear weapons, 153 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: it would be a gift by the Jewish state to humanity. 154 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: That's a pretty tough talk out of a Canadian, but 155 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: I would agree. You've got that that great pier pula Vera. 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: Is that how you pronounce his name? The opposition guy? 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: He kicks ass? I love him. 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: You got one of the worst regimes on planet Earth 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: screaming toward a nuclear weapon. This is the best time 160 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: there's ever going to be with more world support than 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: there ever will ever be to try to take it out. 162 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: And I can't believe we're not taking this moment. This 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: is a major world decision. 164 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: All right. 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: This is the opposite of the whole when's the best 166 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: time to plant an oak tree forty years ago? 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: When's the second best time today? 168 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: When's the best time to cut down an oak tree 169 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: forty years ago? What's the second best time before it 170 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: falls on your house today? 171 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, I get that. This is a major decision. Though. 172 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: If Iran ends up having the bomb a year from now, 173 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: and then they use it in some horrifying way that 174 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: could touch off who knows what on the planet. It 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: will be remembered that there was a chance. 176 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: To stop it. 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: But because remember, they don't need a sophisticated missile and 178 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: triggering mechanism to deliver it. 179 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: They could deliver it on a boat. Right. I only 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: know what I know. 181 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: I don't know all the stuff that they know in 182 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: the intelligence department about Iran's capabilities or other hotspots in 183 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: the world, or whatever else is going on. One thing, 184 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: from reading David Sanger's book, there are so many things 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: you don't know while these stories are unfolding. Like one 186 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: thing I came across the other day because I'm almost 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: done with the book. Remember when Biden went to Kiev. 188 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: He actually went to Kiev and walked through the streets 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: with Zelensky in quite a show of support. We called 190 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: Blinkeln called Putin and said Biden's coming to Kiev, heads up, 191 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: and Putin said, got it. 192 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: We actually told him ahead of time, with you better not. 193 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: And I guess it was trusting that Putin would realize 194 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: that's a no go. Oh yeah, clearly I thought that 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: was very interesting because there was all this secrecy and 196 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: lead up on all the reporting around it was they 197 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: put him on a train in the middle of the 198 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 4: night and snuck him into all this stuff. True because 199 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: you never know about rogue bad guys. But the biggest 200 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: threat of would Russia tried to take him out. No, 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: we told him head up, heads up, ahead of time. Yeah, 202 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 4: I'd stay away from Kiev. Biden's going to be there. 203 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 4: So that's interesting that we have that. We don't think 204 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: he's a complete mad man obviously. 205 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, yeah, that makes perfect sense to me. 206 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: It's the same reason we have a phone line to 207 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, Russian or Chinese general is to say, hey, 208 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: we're going to do some maneuvers. 209 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: It is strictly training maneuvers. Nobody freak out. 210 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: But my point avoid the horrific mistake. My point making 211 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: there's always stuff going on that you don't know about 212 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: at the time. But I gotta believe if I was 213 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: president of the United States, I'd be all about attacking 214 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: rand taking out those nuclear facilities while we got the chance. 215 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: And the world can moan and bitch about it all 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: they want, they'll forget about it in a month. But 217 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: Irani get no damn bomb, you're neo khon. 218 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: I just thought i'd throw that out there. 219 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Two very quick headlines, US frustrated by Israel's reluctance to 220 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: share Iran retaliation plans. I'm not surprised they're not sharing 221 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: it because Biden can't be counted on. And then this 222 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: one report Biden offering Israel compensation to not hit Iranian targets, arms, money, 223 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and diplomatic guarantees. If you just hold back, We'll really 224 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: take care of you. 225 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: Wow. 226 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Interesting CBS News torn asunder by actually doing journalism. 227 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: This is delicious, really enjoying it. Got more on that 228 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: to come. I'm just gonna say, I remember back in 229 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: the day. It's the advantage of being old. I guess 230 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: I remember Bill Clinton. North Korea will not be allowed 231 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: to get a nuclear weapon. Been through those a couple 232 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: of times in my lifetime, and then they do. And 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: that's what president after president has been saying about Iran. 234 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: We've got more on the waist to hear merk Adams 235 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: announce he's running for reelection. Awesome, Eh, go get America 236 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: more on that way. 237 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: You know what we haven't gotten to is that. 238 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Awfulness of the Chicago School System and the Teachers' Union 239 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: and Brandon Johnson. It's one of the most egregious things 240 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It's shocking, anyway. Speaking of shocking, CBS 241 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: News torn asunder by the fact that some of their 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: journalists actually did journalism and their woke staffers have freaked 243 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: out over it. The behind the scenes tape is just 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: too good to be true. We'll play that for you 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: next segment. But the irony of it is that the 246 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: self righteous lefties are saying that interview showed bias. We 247 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: can't have bias at CBS News, which is just truly 248 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: hilarious anyway. For example, you have the Bill Whitaker Kamala 249 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: Harris interview on sixty Minutes, and we played Monday before 250 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: it aired some of the preview, the excerpts that had 251 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: aired Unface the Nation on Sunday, and her long rambling 252 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: answer about whether Netnyao, who was listening to us or 253 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: not clipped forty Michael. 254 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: This is from the preview, remember, but it seems that 255 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening. 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 6: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted 257 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: in a number of movements in that region by Israel 258 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 6: that were very much prompted by or a result of 259 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 6: many things in including our advocacy for what needs to 260 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 6: happen in the region. 261 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: Great Scott diagram that sentence if you dare anyway. So 262 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: that's the preview. Then by the time it actually aired, 263 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: because nobody watches the damn Sunday shows, but poor Jack 264 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: I do. I refuse, although they are occasionally interesting. So 265 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: when it actually aired sixty minutes Monday night, this is 266 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: what it sounded like. 267 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening, 268 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: We're not. 269 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 6: Going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United 270 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: States to be clear about where we stand on the 271 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: need for this war to end. 272 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: Well, so let me get this straight. So the cleaned 273 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: up version is what aired on sixty minutes. 274 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: That's correct, the shorter, coherent version. 275 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: See, I don't like it either way, but you edited 276 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: it that way for the promo piece on Facinination. 277 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. 278 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: You're promoing your big show where the like a million 279 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: people watch face the nation, tens of millions of people 280 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: probably watched sixty minutes. I haven't seen the numbers yet, 281 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: so I could see, you know, the little teaser, but 282 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: you edited it to make her sound better for the 283 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: big show. Yes, that ain't so cool at all. 284 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if they got some sort of pushback from 285 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the Face the Nation preview. Somebody freaked out, whether it 286 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: was internally or from the Harris campaign or something, and 287 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: they removed They took. 288 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: The world the word salad out. And I would like 289 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: to know if Bill Whitaker had any knowledge of that. 290 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: He might not have. 291 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: He may have, he may have been in charge of it, 292 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: or he might have had zero knowledge. I don't know, 293 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: but that'd be a good question. 294 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: When the and this is not a trivial question. 295 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't think the big knock against Kamala Harris, right, 296 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: is that she's got an empty head, right, Yes, that 297 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: is her I think is that bit she is a 298 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: underpaint in Jacksworth. 299 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: The biggest knock is she will not do confrontational interviews 300 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: because she can't handle it. If you edited it in 301 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: such a way to make it look like she can 302 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: handle it better, that's really really. 303 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Bad, right, Right, And again, this is the same CBS 304 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: you're about to hear, who are aghast that there could 305 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: be any bias when somebody makes a conservative point. The 306 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Tiffany Network, Tiffany the pop singer from the eighties. Man 307 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: even with the editing, she like super whift on several questions. 308 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: So huh oh, yeah, well she's incompetent. 309 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: Is she going to get elected president without doing a 310 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: single press conference like where she stands there and takes 311 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: question after question after question like Trump has done multiple times? 312 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: She will attempt to do that. Yeah. 313 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: Whether the American people choose to grant her that high 314 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: office or not as yet to be decided. There are 315 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: times I can't believe what I'm seeing. 316 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: I know it. 317 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like it's real. It does seem like 318 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: it's a TV show and not real. 319 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: And done a good one either entertaining but utterly unrealistic. Anyway, 320 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: the CBS behind the scenes audio, Oh I can't wait. 321 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: Stay with us, Armstrong and Geddy. 322 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: We will get to it again. Kamala did a couple 323 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: of interviews yesterday. She did the view she did Colbert, 324 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: She's doing Stern today. I think anyway, a couple of 325 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: answers that are quite amazing. We'll get to that maybe 326 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: hour four. 327 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: She is a. 328 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: Gibbering idiot in short. Anyway, I'll tell you who's not 329 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: a gibbering idiot Tony Decopple of CBS News, nor is 330 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Tanaheazy Coats, the widely worshiped anti racism author, saint of 331 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: the left. Unquestionably incredibly bright and creative guy. He's just 332 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: wrong about a lot of things in my mind. So 333 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: he's got a new book out and he went on 334 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: CBS this morning to promote it. And instead of the 335 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: soft ballish interview that I think everybody, including some of 336 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: the staff expected, Tony Dcoppel, who's one of their folks 337 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: generalist staffers, asked him some really challenging questions about the 338 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: book and particularly how it is starkly, staunchly anti Israel. 339 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: And to skip to the next part. This is so 340 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: torn apart CBS News that there are teeth gnashing, tear stained, yelling, 341 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: arguments going on behind the scenes, meetings, soul searching, the 342 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: rest of it. Because Jacoppel was so out of line, 343 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: it was so abandoning. 344 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: CBS is principe it was biased. 345 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Can you imagine CBS being biased anyway, here's a chunk 346 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: of that interview. 347 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: Judge for yourself. 348 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 7: Tanajaja, I want to dive into the Israel Palace one 349 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 7: section of the books, section of the book, And I 350 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 7: have to say, when I read the book, I imagine if 351 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 7: I took your name out of it, took away the 352 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, 353 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 7: the publishing. 354 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: House goes away. 355 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 7: The content of that section would not be out of place. 356 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: In the backpack of an extremist. 357 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 7: And so then I found myself wondering, why do is 358 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 7: Tanahashi Coates, who I've known for a long time, read 359 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 7: his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy, 360 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 7: leave out so much? Why leave out that Israel is 361 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 7: surrounded by countries that. 362 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: Want to eliminate it. Why leave out that. 363 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 7: Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it? 364 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: Why not detail anything of the first and the second Intifat, 365 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 7: of the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids 366 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 7: blown to bits? And is it because you just don't 367 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 7: believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist? 368 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 8: Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, 369 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 8: there is no shortage of that perspective in American media. 370 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: That's the first thing I would say. 371 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 8: I am most concerned always with those who don't have 372 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 8: a voice with those who don't have. 373 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: The ability to talk. 374 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 8: I have asked repeatedly in my interviews whether there is 375 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 8: a single network, mainstream organization in America with a Palestinian 376 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 8: American bureau chief or correspondent who actually has a voice 377 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 8: to articulate their part of the world. I've been a 378 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 8: reporter for twenty years. The reporters of those who believe 379 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 8: more sympathetically about Israel and it's right to exist don't 380 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 8: have a problem getting their voice out. But what I 381 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 8: saw in Palestine, what I saw on the West Bank, 382 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 8: what I saw in Haifa in Israel, what I saw 383 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 8: in the South Hebln Hills, those were the stories that 384 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 8: I have not heard, and those were the stories that 385 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 8: I was most occupied with. I wrote a two hundred 386 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 8: and sixty page book. It is not a treatise on 387 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 8: the entirety of the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis. 388 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: That was a frank exchange of views in an intelligent 389 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: and gentlemanly way. The idea that that would Royal CBS 390 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: News is hilarious. 391 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: There was a Tierry staff meeting, is what it was 392 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: described at in New York Post. Tierry staff meeting people 393 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 4: nearly crying, as Tony Dekoppel told staffers he regretted putting 394 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: them in a difficult situation. 395 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: Hmm, that's an interesting way to phrase it. 396 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: So we have through means that would make Dick Cheney blush, 397 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: obtained the behind the scenes meeting audio. We have violated 398 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: the laws of God and man adio. 399 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Oh he needs a car battery and in a pan of water. 400 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you can. Let's just leave it there. One 401 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: of the voices you're going to hear here is that 402 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: of what is her first name? I thought I had 403 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: that all in front of me. It doesn't matter. Miss 404 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Rourke is a high up executive in CBS News. And 405 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: let's just start with one hundred Michael, and we'll go 406 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: from there. And I want to I. 407 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 9: Want to take time to remind us all of something. 408 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 9: When we step into a new room and we pick 409 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 9: up a microphone or a cammon, when we sit down 410 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 9: for an interview, produce a story report from the scene, 411 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 9: or anchor show, we need to remember that we are 412 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 9: journalists and as hard as this is, that means we 413 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 9: set our personal feelings and beliefs aside. Our job is 414 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 9: to serve our audiences. Without bias or perceived bias, to 415 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 9: provide objective news that they that we know and they 416 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 9: know they can trust. 417 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, well you've failed miserably at that for thirty 418 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: years or so. I appreciate hearing the words, But why 419 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: now I think I think I've learned. 420 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: I thought I knew everything there was to know about 421 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: bias and news and that sort of stuff. But I 422 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: think I've learned in the last month or so, with 423 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: the debates and everything, bias is ways more powerful. 424 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: Than I realized. 425 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: And when you have bias yourself, and then I want 426 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: to look at it myself. These people actually believe they're 427 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: being fair to both sides. So I got to believe 428 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: that Nora O'Donnell and what's her name, Margaret Brennan the 429 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: debate the other night, they actually believe they handled that fairly, 430 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: and not that you fact checked one side. 431 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: And let the other side say whatever they want. They 432 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: actually believe it. 433 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Which is scarier than you know, them being deliberately biased. Yeah, 434 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: unconscious bias. How do you fight that? I suppose educating people, 435 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: But they consider themselves to be the elite of the elite. 436 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: About dare we dirty their garments with our clawing hands 437 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: asking them to actually be you know, fair. 438 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: Because they saw this interview that we just played a 439 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 4: chunk of and thought it was it was like a 440 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: hit piece from the journalist as opposed to Both sides 441 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: got to say their part right. 442 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: Adriann Rourke is the head of News Gathering and editorial 443 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: Manager one O two, Michael, we will. 444 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 9: Still want I want to be clear. We will still 445 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 9: ask questions. We will we still hold people accountable. That's 446 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 9: part of our job too, but we will do so 447 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 9: objectively and that means very plain. We have to check 448 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 9: up bias and opinions at the door and that applies 449 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 9: to every single point. We are not here to represent 450 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 9: any viewpoint. We are here to tell stories and I 451 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 9: say this a lot. We are here to report news 452 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 9: without fear or faith. 453 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: So that that meeting would have been great after the 454 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: Trump Harris debate if it had been because who had 455 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: that ABC, That would have been great to hear that 456 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: after that where they just realized, well we went way 457 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 4: too far. We fact checked one candidate ten times and 458 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: the other candidate not at all. 459 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: We need to. 460 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 4: Or after last Tuesday or Tuesday's debate, the vice president 461 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: if cbsn'd at that meeting. After that debate, I would 462 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: have thought, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, but after this interview, 463 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: here are you kidding? 464 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: Rights? It's amazing. 465 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: You're right. I take your point. She is being sincere. 466 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: She thinks she is not full of crap. One A 467 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: final clip one O three. 468 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 9: I want to Acknowlange. There a lot of times that 469 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 9: we do this really and then there are times that 470 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 9: we don't, and there are times we fail our audiences 471 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 9: and we fail each other. We're in one of those 472 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 9: times right now, and it's been growing and now we. 473 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: Are at a tipping. 474 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 9: Many of you have reached out to express concerns over 475 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 9: recent reporting, specifically about the CBS Morning's Coaches interview our 476 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 9: last week, as well as comments made coming out of 477 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 9: some of our correspondents reporting. I want to thank every 478 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 9: single reached out for your honesty, your transparency, and. 479 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: Your timid boy, but not the debate. You didn't mention 480 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: the debate in there. Yeah that's that's funny, isn't it. 481 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Ah? 482 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: So what was I going to say? Wow? Well, that's 483 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 2: the lesson. Put it out of my head as I 484 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: chased down something else. 485 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: That's the lesson for all of us, is that our 486 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: bias going into it is so clouding of our perception. 487 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: Apparently that the things have gotten completely out of hand here, 488 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: completely out of hand. Somebody presented a you that wasn't progressive, 489 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: and that's crazy. 490 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: For years after the death of George Floyd, CBS this morning, 491 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: and not to mention all of their other plants spouted 492 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: the far left, neo Marxist, anti racist, black lives matter 493 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: point of view, without opposition, without opposition, Nobody was even 494 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: allowed to say, Hey, you know, that's actually a Marxist organization. 495 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: They're using black resentment to further their far left goals. 496 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: Nobody was even allowed to say that on CBS, though 497 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: it is clearly true. For years and now, poor Tony 498 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: Dcoppel dares question in a very fair and gentlemanly manner, 499 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: one of the paragons of sainthood of the left, who 500 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: responds intelligently and forcefully and defends himself in quite a 501 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: lovely fashion, even if I think he's wrong ultimately, and 502 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: that is the cause of soul searching at CBS. It's uh, 503 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: it's something. Let's take a quick break. Tell you about 504 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: our friends at Prize Picks. This is fun and it's easy. 505 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm a man who craves leisure. 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Taylor Swift's glitter freckles. 536 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: They're not expensive, they're sixteen dollars, but you can't buy 537 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 4: them anywhere in the country right now because she had 538 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: them on her face for the Money Night Football the 539 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: other night and somehow that got caught on camera and 540 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: traveled through social media. 541 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: So glurb to you like, are so like nationwide? One 542 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: like a so called beauty marker. Do you put like 543 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty on your face? Or how many do you do? 544 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: Katie? Do you know it's. 545 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 10: It's it's basically like a strip of temporary tattoos that 546 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 10: goes over your nose, kind of like one of those 547 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 10: nose strips, and then you get it wet and peel 548 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 10: it off and there's a whole bunch of glitter freckles 549 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 10: so stupid. 550 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: It's fine. It seems like more like something you do 551 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 2: if you're fourteen year old. 552 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: An eight year old girl, but not a thirty four 553 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: year old woman. 554 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 10: It's huge in like the rave slash Coachella. 555 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so she was stoned, that's what's going Damn hippy. 556 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: She's probably probably took Exsta see where she comes. 557 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: In the booth, probably so damn drug taking hippie junkies. 558 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm not actually hippy. 559 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm not actually bothered by any of the tea swizzle 560 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: stuff around the football and the Chiefs. The only part 561 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: of it that bothers me is her overreaction to just 562 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: a mundane catch, you know, like a five yard completion whatever, 563 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 4: second and five, you know, you get whatever. 564 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Just that's not that big a deal. People 565 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: don't go Chriss. 566 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Always bothered you about her, right, She wins the seven 567 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: hundred and third award of her career and acts as. 568 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: If they finally love me, with their mouths wide open 569 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: and everything. But yeah, but he, cause she's just enthusiastic. 570 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: He catches a regular small game and she's hands on 571 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: her cheeks and mouth over. 572 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she turns in the hug. All right. 573 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jack, just because you've lost your capacity 574 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: for joy doesn't mean you should punish the rest of us. 575 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: Maybe glitter freckles would cheer me up to Maybe it 576 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: kind of a little sparkle in my life. 577 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: You can't get them, they're so that's true. 578 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: I'll wait till they come back into stock, or I'll 579 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: get some underground dark web version somewhere. 580 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: Made with lead poisoning. Yeah, Thiland, Well we got more 581 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: on the way. Stay here. 582 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: One of the biggest French fry factories in North America 583 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: is closing because Americans are eating fewer French fries. 584 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: People are eating fewer French. 585 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 7: Fries than every Uber East driver was like, speak for yourself. 586 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: I get it. I should. It's a real kryptonite food 587 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: for me. 588 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: I should never eat another French fry. I should never 589 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: have another milkshake ever in my life. I should never 590 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: eat another donut in my life. I should swear off 591 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: those three things right there. 592 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: In my life. Do it? I can't. 593 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: Have you seen the trailer for the new Bob Dylan 594 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: movie A Complete Unknown? 595 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: I have not. 596 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: Timothy shallow May as Bob Dylan. It's nineteen sixty five 597 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: Bob Dylan right right when he's you know, launching and everything. 598 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Like that looks looks good. 599 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: God, admit, I like Bob Dylan too much to be 600 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: able to handle a biopic. 601 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: It's weird. 602 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: I don't I don't feel like this about other artists 603 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: when they do this, but I feel like I just 604 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: I don't want you to. 605 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: Do it wrong. 606 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm worried you're not going to handle something that I 607 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: hold in such high regard correctly. 608 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: It's weird. I don't usually have that feeling well. 609 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: And if you're really into something, you have no need 610 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: for a biopic, No, you do not. 611 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: All this saw the reality of it true, but like, well, 612 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: I disagree. 613 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: I guess like war movies, I know exactly what happened, 614 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: but to see it portrayed, it would have looked like 615 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 4: if you were there. Oh yeah, and I'm hoping they 616 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 4: can be okay, what was it like for him to be, 617 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: you know, twenty eight years old in the coffee shop, 618 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: brand new. 619 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 620 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, don't overdo it, don't make it too schmaltzy 621 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: or dumb it down. 622 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: I can't handle that. Well, good luck with that. That'll 623 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: make me angry. Okay, you think, yeah, what did the. 624 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: Folk scene actually look and sound like in New York 625 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: City in nineteen sixty five? 626 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: You're you're right, I'm curious about that. This is dumb. 627 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: Governor of California, Gavin Newsom signed in the law banning 628 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: all plastic shopping bags of grocery stores. It's not officially 629 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: a law, and I noticed they'd already started to switch 630 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: over at my grocery stores. Now I get completely useless 631 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: paper bags that will immediately go into the trash because 632 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: I can't use them for anything else. 633 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: Really, and uh, there you go. 634 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with the right act of 635 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: civil disobedience to defy this. A mink shopping bag or 636 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: something made out of the good guts of pandas or 637 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it would be that would be 638 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: the most possible offensive. Maybe just Gavin big bags, as say, 639 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Gavin dow some sucks on the signs. 640 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: One of my favorite libertarians tweeted out to that story. 641 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: This is the epitome of a policy that sounds great 642 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: to a small group of activists and looks perfect on 643 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 4: a protest sign and yet it accomplishes effectively nothing except 644 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: to make people's day to day lives a little more 645 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: annoying performance art that is exactly right. 646 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: And increases their cynicism appropriately. You're right, You're. 647 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: Right for those because most of us see through it. 648 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: We realize it's pointless. And all you've done is make 649 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: my life a little more annoying. Not greatly more annoying, 650 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 4: but a little more annoying for no good reason other 651 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 4: than to a certain crowd. 652 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: You made them feel better, over accomplished trying to do this, 653 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: and you keep screwing it up. But that doesn't stop 654 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: you from trying again. 655 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, for the second time today, I say. One of 656 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: the advantages of being old is I can remember when 657 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: they banned plastic bags and went all paper, or when 658 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 4: they banned paper and went all plucks. 659 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: I remember that very well. I was probably in my twenties. 660 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: Save the trades, Save the trades. 661 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, fine, Now I'll start purchasing plastic bags so 662 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: that I have something to line my trash stands and 663 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: pick up my dog poop as a post to using 664 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 4: the ones from. 665 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: The grocery store. No, that's banned now, and the handle 666 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 2: breaks off your paper bag all the time. 667 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: I guess I'm supposed to show up with my bag 668 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: that I carry my trunk, but I'm never going to 669 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: do that. Good for you if you do that, I 670 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: can an understaand why any But I'm never going to 671 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 4: do that. I'll just never get around to it. 672 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: Here here, I got it. 673 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: Every time I go to the grocery store, it will 674 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: be with a burro who has two of those satchels 675 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: on his side, that whatever you call those. 676 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 2: Right saddle bags. 677 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,959 Speaker 1: I guess sure, yeah, I will lead my bureau through 678 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: the grocery store, and if confronted, I will say, well, 679 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is banned the plastic bags I would otherwise use. 680 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: So I've brought this bourou He laughed. I laugh. 681 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I would feed the thing a lot to make sure 682 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: it's you. 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