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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to stuff I've

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Speaker 1: never told your prediction of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And y'all, yes, we are here with a Monday Mini

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Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about a lot of numbers

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Speaker 2: and statistics. With the economy the way it is, it's

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Speaker 2: been interesting question mark to watch how the job market

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Speaker 2: continues to progress or not progress, and we started wondering

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Speaker 2: what it looks like for women in the job market today.

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, not much has changed in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 2: So we've talked about this often. We talked about it

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Speaker 2: right after the pandemic, during the pandemic, before the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: We keep talking about it, and I think it's important

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Speaker 2: that we continue to do so because until there's actual change,

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Speaker 2: we need to recognize that there are things that could

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Speaker 2: be done that's not done. Yeah, there's so much happening.

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Speaker 2: But with that, I thought we would take a moment

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Speaker 2: and talk about women dominated careers and then also gender

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Speaker 2: gaps in different fields and what that looks like and

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Speaker 2: what we need to talk about today. A lot of

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Speaker 2: the statistics are coming from twenty twenty three and twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, so here's some specific numbers from the Department

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Speaker 2: of Labor talking about most common occupations for women in

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Speaker 2: the labor force. So a little different in that we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about everything, and we will we will, but

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Speaker 2: this is specifically in the labor force, and they're talking

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Speaker 2: about registered nurse is the highest for women, and they

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Speaker 2: have about two point two million women in that labor force.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that high. And that is the highest

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Speaker 2: number that I've seen. Elementary and middle school teachers one million,

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and ninety nine thousand, so around that point

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Speaker 2: we have managers and all other I know what all

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Speaker 2: other means, but you know, I was gonna put that there,

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Speaker 2: which is at one point five million, But then if

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Speaker 2: you go all the way down, because I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to go through all of it, A lot of it

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Speaker 2: has to do with teaching assistance, a receptionist assistance. There's

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Speaker 2: a few about human resource workers, all of that. The

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Speaker 2: lowest number that I have on according to the Department

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Speaker 2: of Labor is janitors and building cleaners, whichhit at four

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven thousand, post secondary teachers, which I

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Speaker 2: hit at four hundred and forty five thousand, and preschool

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Speaker 2: which I was kind of surprised by that number. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought was much higher the entirety of the

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Speaker 2: time that I worked in preschool, and yes, I taught

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Speaker 2: pre school for about four years, y'all. I'm a well

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Speaker 2: rounded worker. There was never a dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't think of a in my experience, and

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Speaker 1: just like my anecdotal right experience, I can't think of

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Speaker 2: I think the first male teacher outside of like coaches

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Speaker 2: and gym class didn't have happen until high school. For me.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point. I think mine was in

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Speaker 1: middle school, but not in elementary school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not elementary school, not kindergarten. So I thought that

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Speaker 2: was interesting in itself. So those are some of the

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Speaker 2: and seventy thousand, so below the millions mark. Of course,

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Speaker 2: and we are going to talk about them a little

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Speaker 2: here are some of the reasons why these industries are

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Speaker 2: mostly women industries. There's the historic reason some industries childcare, education,

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Speaker 2: nursing have always been more populated with women do largely

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Speaker 2: in part to sexism relegating women to gender specific roles

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Speaker 2: with women as caretakers. While that is changing, it's not

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Speaker 2: changing quickly. Studies just a jobs associated with higher risks

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Speaker 2: men because women aren't as willing to risk their lives

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Speaker 2: to make a living. Other experts have said women tend

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Speaker 2: to avoid male dominated industries so they can avoid the

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Speaker 2: gender related harassment that can come with them, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: the occupations that appeal to women tend to offer a

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Speaker 2: better work life balance than those that attract more men.

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Speaker 2: A perk necessary because women often do more child rearing,

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Speaker 2: household yours, and unpaid labor than their significant others. We

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Speaker 2: not working. It isn't working. And coming back to those statistics,

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Speaker 2: to statista dot com with twenty occupations with the highest

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Speaker 2: then nursing and midwivary associate professionals they hold about eighty

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Speaker 2: of along the whole, like rugged path I guess it's

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Speaker 2: textile for and leather products, machine operators, which they held

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Speaker 2: at forty seven percent, which seems really specific, but also

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Speaker 2: kind of surprising when it comes to like machine products

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Speaker 2: because we know worldwide the use of labor, like outsourced labor.

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Speaker 2: I imagine we're mainly women for that type, do you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But there's also a subsistence of livestock farmers, which they

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Speaker 2: librarians and archivists and curators holding out fifty nine percent,

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Speaker 2: and then general secretaries or were fifty five percent. These

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Speaker 1: What's your experience?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because between the Department of Labor.

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Speaker 1: Numbers, Oh I see, I see, But this is like

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Speaker 1: the difference. This is worldwide I guess the US and worldwide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is a whole different conversation in itself.

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Speaker 2: So let's do some status and pay from both in

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Speaker 2: her Sight and top resume dot com. So they give

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Speaker 2: women dominated careers and their salaries. And yes, this is

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Speaker 2: based off the US Bureau of Labor statistics and it's

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Speaker 2: this was from twenty twenty one. It says speech language pathologist,

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Speaker 2: they hold about ninety five percent and they make eighty

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a year. Phlebotomus kept popping up as

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Speaker 2: we have home health aids who make up eighty seven

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Speaker 2: make sixty six thousand, a little over receptionists, I guess,

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Speaker 2: not the executive level, but receptionists and information clerks. They

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Speaker 2: That's within the business office and then human resources manager

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Speaker 2: that's about eighty percent are made up of women. And

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Speaker 2: you don't, I don't know, I feel like we need

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Speaker 2: to come back to this. This maybe really really specific.

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Speaker 2: But as I'm listening to, like you know, am I

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Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if this is a sexist narrative

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Speaker 2: HR is blamed for so many things when in actuality

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Speaker 2: that's just the director of their following. Maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 2: make one hundred and thirty six thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: so get it, okay, ladies, get it. Then. Careers related

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Speaker 2: to money, payroll and timekeeping clerks eighty six percent are

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Speaker 2: held by women, book keeping, accounting audience clerks eighty four

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Speaker 2: percent are held by women. Tellers only seventy six percent

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Speaker 2: are held by women, which I thought would be much higher.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I thought they kind of would hit

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Speaker 2: like the nurse practitioner skill who knows tellers make thirty

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Speaker 2: four thousand, timekeeping makes forty nine thousand, and bookkeeping makes

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Speaker 2: forty five thousand, and accounting as well. We have health

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Speaker 2: and fitness, these aren't surprising to me. Skincare specialists ninety

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Speaker 2: eighty three percent are held by women, and manicurists and

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Speaker 2: pedicurists are eighty three percent are held by women, So

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Speaker 2: wonder where those numbers changed. Childcare in general ninety four

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Speaker 2: ninety one percent are held by women, which is surprising

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Speaker 2: surprising for a small town in Elija, Georgia. When we

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Speaker 2: talked about the elementary modlet school teachers, seventy nine percent

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Speaker 2: were held by women. In the creative industries, floral designers,

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Speaker 2: seventy six percent are held by women, and then more

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Speaker 2: women dominated careers can include pair legals and hostesses and restaurants,

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Speaker 2: library assistants, interpreters and translators are actually held by women

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Speaker 2: as well, and they make about thirty seventy three percent

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Speaker 2: and they can make fifty eight thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: We've been meeting to do an episode on Yeah Wild.

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Speaker 2: So some of these were surprising, some of them were

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Speaker 2: not surprising. Some of them were surprising in that there

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Speaker 2: were even bigger gaps and larger gaps of like only

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Speaker 2: we talked about it. The skincare specialists is a huge

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Speaker 2: on top resume, they're saying ninety nine percent are made

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Speaker 1: You know what the frustrating thing is though, that one

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Speaker 1: percent of men they like make more money.

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Speaker 2: And the other part to this is I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: confused because when I see, like when they say skincare specialists.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're not talking about plastic surgery or surgery,

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Speaker 2: which I assume would be along those lines. Dermatologists and

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Speaker 2: specialists like that who are actually, you know, doctors. They

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Speaker 2: often work in medical spas, health spas, salons, and independently

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Speaker 2: owned so literally technicians, I guess is what I've seen

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Speaker 2: in the title as if you work in the skincare industry,

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Speaker 2: let me know, because I'd like. I find it fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I think it's such a great field I trust. I

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Speaker 2: trust those specialists more than I do doctors. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why. And people who want to put me under

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Speaker 2: that conversation we were talking about with the skincare specialists.

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Speaker 2: So they talk about the general gender wage gap statistics,

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Speaker 2: know this. Women earned just eighty four cents for every

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Speaker 1: Possibly, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 2: As expected. Women of color are among the lowest paid

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Speaker 2: That's almost half a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's substantial amounts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I dare you I'm just saying, so there is

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Speaker 2: job level, and hours work, is currently at ninety nine

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Speaker 1: Dot cost of tampons. I don't know, there's other things

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Speaker 2: And then some and we're not even talking about Oh,

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Speaker 1: Daycare, yeah, which is nowhere near as one child what

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Speaker 2: And this is a conversation from the Institute for Women's

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Speaker 2: Also, where's this entry level position? I want to I know? Three? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. The why? And then women earn

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Speaker 2: A mirror, A mirror. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: I need one hundred dollars. That's a meal. That's a

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Speaker 2: And then they talk about jobs with the smallest gender

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Speaker 2: the same role. That doesn't make sense. No, I wonder though,

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Speaker 2: if they charge differently, And so if it's cheaper to

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Speaker 2: So I hope she has more clients.

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Speaker 2: Women contribute thirty percent less than men to their retirement accounts.

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Speaker 2: On average, women receive twenty percent less than men and

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Speaker 2: social security benefits that pisss me off. Additionally, women receive

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Speaker 2: than men in three key areas of retirement, social security, pensions,

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Speaker 2: and savings. I swear they're trying to kill us. I

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Speaker 2: mean they really just if you're not of use of working,

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Speaker 2: you'd need to die. It is what the government seems

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Speaker 2: to be telling us.

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Speaker 1: I can't have kids. There's society, raise kids, get out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so did. I did think that these were

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Speaker 2: all interesting fines, as well as the fact that they

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Speaker 2: do talk about the gender pay gap by state. So

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Speaker 2: obviously we're talking mostly about the US as pretending to us.

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Speaker 2: So if you're from different countries, let us know. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you have similar conversations or statistics as well, but

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Speaker 2: we would love to hear from you. But it's interesting

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Speaker 2: the gender pay gap as of twenty twenty four different states,

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Speaker 2: and the highest difference started in Wyoming with the fact

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Speaker 2: that the male median annual earnings were fifty nine thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty three dollars, while female earnings were

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Speaker 2: forty thousand, nine hundred and seventy six dollars, making it

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Speaker 2: an eighteen thousand, eight hundred and seventy seven dollars difference,

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Speaker 2: which I was like, dang, dang, okay, but the one

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Speaker 2: and I think this is less surprising, I guess with

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Speaker 2: the smaller difference is Vermont with a male annual earnings

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Speaker 2: being fifty five thousand, eight hundred and three while women

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Speaker 2: made fifty nine hundred and thirty one, making a three thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy two dollars difference, which is still

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Speaker 2: a difference. Yeah, but like the fact that that those

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Speaker 2: look and see, like what about Georgia. We're a number

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Speaker 2: forty one with a nine thousand dollars difference, while California

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Speaker 2: was forty five. It was pretty close behind us at seven,

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Speaker 2: kind of surprised by that that we were that low

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Speaker 2: on the chart of the gap. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's just a recession in general, and by the way.

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire was number two for the highest gap, with

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Speaker 2: a sixteen thousand dollars six hundred and eighty six dollars difference.

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't know much about New Hampshire, but I

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Speaker 2: thought they would be more close than that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: all this information that we just spoke about with the

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Speaker 2: types of gaps and the way your state aligns is

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Speaker 2: at Forbes dot com if you want to look it up.

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Speaker 2: But it was very interesting in these conversations. Unfortunately, we're

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Speaker 2: still having this talk. Yes, as we ted said before,

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Speaker 2: women of color, black women, Latino women, as well as

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Speaker 2: Native first people's are the highest with the gap, the

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Speaker 2: lowest at the gap I guess, and getting paid the

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Speaker 2: least and discriminated the most, I guess, which is not

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Speaker 2: surprising and still really really irritating. But yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: it looks like currently. I'm sure we'll get some more

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Speaker 2: because I think it needs to be revisited often so

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Speaker 2: that we talk about why intersectional feminism is important to

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Speaker 2: how we get paid and who gets paid and how

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Speaker 2: it should be working versus how it's been working.

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Speaker 1: Yep, And there's a lot of side quest from a

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Speaker 1: topic as big as this one. I was recently researching

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Speaker 1: women in layoffs and surprise, surprise, women are more hurt

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Speaker 1: by last. So yeah, we'll come back to talk about

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Speaker 1: more of all of this. But if you have listeners

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