1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Late Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, March fifteenth. I said, Tuesday. That's tri at 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the year of our lower twenty twenty two, jam packed, 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: High at Top and reprogrammed Higa Top Downtown Nastals and. 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: I see what happened the other night. I'll explain it momentarily. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: But we got basically two shows to get you tonight, 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: and we've got a jam packed edition of Late Kick Live. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: We have got not only the SEC, but now the 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: SEC and the ACC. Huge things to watch. Call them 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Maria's a focus. Call them questions if you want to. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that are somewhat happening 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: already in spring, but boy, these things, when they start 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: to evolve and they start to make themselves known, this 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: will in many ways decide these conference championship pictures or 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: at least the race. So we're gonna talk about a 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: lot of those, cause there's no sense in waiting until 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: August to do that. We'll hit that tonight. It's Texas 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: A and m Mood Tracker night. We've had a solid 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: not just twenty four hours, but seventy two hours. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: To think about that. 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: And one of you asked about this whole Kirk kurb 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Street Amazon NFL thing. Do we have any inclination to 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: what's going on there? Well, of course I have access 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: to the internet, so I know everything. I'll give you 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts on that tonight. May not go 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: to the direction you think I'll go on it. But 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: they're watching us tonight, Jesse, Colin, they're watching us in Foley, Alabama. 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Shout out to the late Kenny Stabler and the current 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Julio Jones Montreal, Quebec, Canada is tuned in Gray Georgia, 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: tuned in Las Colinas, Texas, tuned in the other night. 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: As you are well aware by now, we were supposed 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: to have Late Kick Live on Sunday and I don't 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Satan got involved very real 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: and he was working in the building Sunday night, so 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: we had to postpone. That's not what I want to 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: talk about because we've rectified that situation. A lot of 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes did a lot of work directed 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: by that situation. Colin and Jesse yelled at the right 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: people and we're back on air, but back in the day. Now, 40 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: just short story before we get into the show tonight, 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Back in the day when we first started doing Late 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Kick independently down in Columbus, Georgia, there was a time 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: where we were thrilled if we hit the twenty viewer threshold. 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Twenty people watching the show at any given point was 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: a really big deal. Not kidding you, it was a 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: really big deal. And then you fast forward to the 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: other night we had several hundred of you watching nothing 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: as the show had been delayed forty five minutes to 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: an hour, and then I had hundreds more of you 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: emailing or dming, asking what happened? 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Where's the show? 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: I just woke up on Monday morning, That's when I 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: listened to it, or it's later Sunday night, that's when 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: I like to watch it. What I want to say 55 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: is I appreciate that because it's March. You know, research 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: and data says that you're not supposed to be here, 57 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: but yet you are, because, as you know, we operate 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: our show a little differently. In our little community here, 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: we operate differently. It did not go unnoticed. It doesn't 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: bother me at all when you ask about the show. 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Charur job to produce it. You guys show up and 62 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: when it's not there you complain. I don't get bothered 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: by that. I appreciate it because the alternative is what 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: we used to have to do and I much prefer 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: it this way. 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: So thank you guys for all that. Let's dive into the. 67 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Show tonight, because we got a whole lot to get 68 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: to bring focus. A lot of people will call these 69 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: questions in some ways they're questions, but I just want 70 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to tell you where my mind's at with several teams 71 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: that we got a number of them tonight in multiple 72 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: conferences in the SEC. 73 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's start and. 74 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Let's look around this conference and let's talk about biggest 75 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: areas of focus right now. How about wide receiver at 76 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: A and M. The entire developmental process of wide receiver 77 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: at Texas A and M. Now, this is not a 78 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: one year thing. This has been something that folks in 79 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: and around College Station they've looked at for quite a 80 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: while with their program, and they've seen that we got 81 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: really good talent and we got depth along both lines 82 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: of scrimmage are personnel. 83 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: They look good when they get off the bus. 84 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: We've even had varying degrees a good quarterback play here, 85 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: but we have not really been able to stretch the 86 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: field famously, they have not been able to stretch the 87 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: field ninety second in past plays of twenty plus yards. 88 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one had issues at quarterback. I didn't 89 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: have a full copboard stocked with elite wide receiver talent. 90 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: So we've got a Naya Smith coming back, and then 91 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: we've got a blank. And in that blank, I just 92 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: wrote the word opportunity. A lot of guys have opportunity. 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Wiedermeyer's gone on. There are a lot of guys 94 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: with opportunity here. Now, the guy that they are going 95 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: to look at first and foremost from a national perspective, 96 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: So I guess the guy that we're going to look 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: at a lot is Evan Stewart. We made a big 98 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: deal about his recruitment for good reason. He's one of 99 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the best skills collections I guess of skill you would 100 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: call it in the country, regardless of position. But he 101 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: signed with Texas a and M five star in every 102 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: sense of the word, and he's going to be given 103 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to compete as they all are. But he's 104 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: got a legitimate shot to lock down real playing time 105 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: and be an immediate contributor there. What about Tennessee. Let's 106 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: go over to Knoxville, Tennessee. Let's talk about corner back development. 107 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: See a lot of folks, I think with a lot 108 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: of these programs, the natural inclination in the spring is 109 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: to say, all right, what does quarterback look like? What 110 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: does running back, wide receiver look like? Yes, yes, we 111 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: can do that, and we're going to do that plenty, 112 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: But corner is a particular area of focus for me 113 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: With Tennessee. They have an interesting season to look back on. 114 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: At Tennessee, you look back and you remember, well, you 115 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: probably remember the bowl game, but you also remember there 116 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: was some up, there was some down, but you expected 117 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: disaster at the beginning of the year. So they overachieved 118 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: relative to expectation. They lost six games last year. But 119 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: I want to remind you how the season shook out. See, 120 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: they got blown out by Georgia, they got blown out 121 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: by Bama. 122 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: They lost handily to Florida. Those three weren't close. 123 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: But they had games against pitt Ole, Miss and Purdue 124 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: the bowl game that were all won possession games. So 125 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: they look at it and they said, well, we ended 126 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: up being Bowl eligible. We had three more games that 127 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: were well within our reach. 128 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: How close. Are we really to. 129 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Be in an eight win team nine win team? Well, 130 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the answer is not that far away from it. But 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: then you don't just get to build automatically on where 132 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you were last season. It's not onward and upward. Sometimes 133 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: there's some things that you have to replace from last year. 134 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: And at Tennessee they've got three corner spots to fill. 135 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: Really. 136 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Alante Taylor's gone, Theo Jackson's gone. Those were the two 137 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: mainstays at corner, and so multiple guys are needed. That is, 138 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: as we always say around here, why God invented spring practice. 139 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: And that's what they're going to be working on over there. 140 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: The reason that matters is because it doesn't really matter 141 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: if you get them to third and eleven a whole lot. 142 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: If they know that they can just fifty to fifty 143 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: you to death, and it really turns into like a 144 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: seventy thirty proposition for them because you don't have consistent 145 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: corner play. Keep an eye on the defensive back position 146 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. At LSU, now this one's right up front 147 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: and in your face. It's kind of like Clemson. We're 148 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about them in a little while. LSU. 149 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: The quarterback rotation. That's the area of focus for me. 150 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm less sold on this concept that Jaden Daniels is 151 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: just coming in and grabbing that job by the throat 152 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: than some people are. 153 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Some people are not like that. 154 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Some people around LSU think, yeah, it's going to be 155 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a legitimate competition. But since we didn't have a show 156 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night and I was able to reach out a 157 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: little bit more on this particular subject of LSU quarterback rotation, 158 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I had someone make the case for Jaden Daniels. I 159 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: had a couple of people make the case from Miles Brennan. 160 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: I had one dude strongly make the case for Garrett Nusmeyer. 161 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: And basically, what that tells me because these are all 162 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: folks who watch and follow the program on a day 163 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: to day basis, they're informed. I trust their opinions. It's 164 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: wide open. This is not anyone's job, it's not some formality. 165 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Plus it's a new staff, so no one even knows anyone, 166 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: so this is going to be something to watch. I 167 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: could be sold on a scenario where any of these 168 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: three guys, even if everyone's healthy, any of these three 169 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: guys ends up starting now the OC there for those unfamiliar. 170 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Mike Denbrock comes there by way of Cincinnati. 171 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's gotten used to having mobility 172 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: as a factor at the quarterback. 173 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: Position that Mini has to have. 174 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean his offense is predicated on it. It 175 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: does mean that he is well as of recently been 176 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: most comfortable with that factor. There does it come into play, 177 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: We'll see. I think what they want more so than 178 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: a specific skill set, they want poise and they want 179 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: good decision making. 180 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: That's what they're looking for at quarterback. 181 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: And then if they find a guy, whether it's Miles 182 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Brennan who has that or Jayden, Daniel Sigarrett and Uzsmyer, 183 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: that's who's going to be starting. Bold prediction. I know 184 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: that's who's going to be starting Week one for lsu Hey. 185 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: The offensive line situation at Alabama, I think bears very 186 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 1: close watch. 187 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: Over the course of preview. 188 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Magazine season which is coming up, and SEC media Day 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: season and whatnot. You're gonna be told this is the 190 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite to win the national championship. You're gonna look 191 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: at these headlines that tell you Alabama's got the shortest 192 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: odds to win the title of any team since filling 193 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the blank. And that's all well and good, and they 194 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: may very well be my preseason prediction to win the 195 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: national championship for all I know. But I will tell 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: you this, this particular Alabama team is not sitting here 197 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: in spring like they normally are with these stalwarts that 198 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: you can write names and sharpies of at the offensive 199 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: tackle positions. They don't have that right now. Nick Saban 200 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: spoke about it at his first press conference. They've already 201 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: started spring ball. 202 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: Now. 203 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: He didn't paint some doom and gloom scenario or picture, 204 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: but he did. 205 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: I kind of think he was very real with it. 206 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: He listed names Kendall randolph A, Javon Cohen, who else, 207 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Tommy Brockermeyer, Damian George. These are guys that a lot 208 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: of people when they committed Alabama penciled in his interior 209 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: offensive line guys. 210 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: And then J. C. 211 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: Latham, who's also working in the mix here. You think 212 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: he's a second year guy. He may be a rechet freshman, 213 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: but he's a second year guy. That's the one who 214 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: when they got him out of high school, was one 215 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: of those high profile five star types, the Evan Neils, 216 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the Alex Leatherwoods of the world. JC Latham was going 217 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: to be that next guy, and he may very well be. 218 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: He just hasn't seen the field yet. But I'm very 219 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: curious how this works out because it could be that 220 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: you know Bryce Young and so you know a lot 221 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: of the higher profile facets of the team, but offensive 222 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: line may get overlooked. So we're not going to overlook 223 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: it on this show. So keep an eye on the 224 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: offensive tackle spot interior. I don't have a problem. I 225 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: don't think they have any issue there. I think they'll 226 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: have multiple quality pieces from which to choose, But the 227 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackle situation, just let's pay attention to it. Auburn, 228 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't even have a specific position that I've carved 229 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: out here because there are a lot of them. So 230 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: the area of focus for me with Auburn is team stability. 231 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: It's generic, and it's generic for a reason. The new 232 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, very very hazy quarterback picture 233 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: right now at Auburn. I'll tell you this though. Brian Harson, 234 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: to his credit, went on a couple of shows the 235 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: other day. He went on Cole and Greg mclroy's show. 236 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: He went on Next Round Live with our friends down 237 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: there in Birmingham. I think you should do more public appearances. 238 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was funny, thought he sounded really loose. 239 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Thought he sounded really as some of my friends like 240 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to say, cool, calm and elected. He's the head coach 241 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: at Auburn, and a lot of folks didn't think he'd 242 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: have that title two months ago, so they've got a 243 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: lot to figure out. You know, they've lost a lot 244 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: on the defensive line too. See, you've had the drama 245 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: with the head coaching rumors and somewhat headlines but mainly rumors, 246 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: and then you've had the coordinator and the staff churn. 247 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: They lost a lot of defensive line depth too. So 248 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: this is not the league to be saying that. In 249 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: It's what I'm telling you is the churn finished? Is 250 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: the question I have, the churn meaning the upheaval, guys 251 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: hitting the exit door. It's not just a given that 252 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: that's the case. They certainly they probably feel like it's done. 253 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: But you've got springball. Then you're gonna come out of 254 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: spring and let's see what that looks like. But at quarterback, 255 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: anyone's guess is as good as anyone else is there. 256 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: And I'm talking even about people who are inside the program. 257 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Ask some folks inside the program I have They don't know, 258 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: they think TJ. Finley probably have n't written in very 259 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: light pencil. But Zach Calzada's come in there, Robbie Ashford's 260 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: come in there, a lot of them, like Davis, the 261 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: second year guy, and he's the only homegrown product they 262 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: have there. Right now, those are some areas of focus. 263 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: And you know, we could do a whole other segment 264 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: because I didn't even mention Georgia. There's a first year's 265 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: staff at Florida. I didn't even mention Kentucky. I did not, 266 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you know what, say that we may actually have some 267 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: more sec to talk about. You know, I want to 268 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: give a shout out tonight. I don't ever get political 269 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: on the show, but I guess it's not political when 270 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: everyone agrees on something, right, Shout out to the US 271 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Senate tonight. You guys are normally like an East Coast 272 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: version of the NCAA. Can't stand it. Never get anything 273 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I want from the Senate. But the Sunshine Protection Act 274 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: I am in full favor of. These people have finally 275 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: done what always needed to be done with daylight savings, 276 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: and that is wadded up and throw it in the 277 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: nearest garbage can. So hats off, we applaud you from 278 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Late Kick to the US Senate. This is to me 279 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: as big a deal, as big a thing that's happened 280 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: in this country since the Pacific Railway active eighteen sixty two, 281 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: and we all know how important that was. So hats 282 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: off to the US Senate. Now that you've got some 283 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: more daylight coming your way in twenty twenty three, I 284 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: think they had to delay it until twenty twenty three. 285 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: It's still got to pass through the House, but I 286 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: think it will. So that concludes the political side of 287 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Late Kick. 288 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: Tonight. Hey, now that you're going to have more sunshine, 289 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: you know where you need to go? Yeah? 290 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Academy Sports and Outdoors. That's exactly where you need 291 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: to go. They sent me some new ad copy which 292 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I did not bring in the studio, so I'm not 293 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: going to read it. But you should see the laundry 294 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: list of brands. And I have internet here, but I'm 295 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: just not going to pull it up. The laundry list 296 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: of brands, everything from of course, the gear to the 297 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: coolers and everything in between. 298 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Tents. We already touched on that. 299 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: The other night, many tents for you to look at 300 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: in the store at Academy Sports and Outdoors, and then 301 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: big tents for you to take. When I mentioned the 302 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: tents the other night, no less than I will safely 303 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: say a dozen of you went and bottom and sent 304 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: me pictures of them in varying stages of being put together. 305 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Thank you from me and Academy. Look, we can't do 306 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: anything more than give you daylight. Okay, that is taking 307 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: the horse to the water or in this case the 308 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: viewer to the front door of Academy Sports and Outdoors. 309 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Now go in and now. 310 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Enjoy everything they have to offer, and know that thanks 311 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: to the US Senate for a change, something good's gonna 312 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: happen in your life and you're actually gonna have a 313 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: little bit more sunshine. Now, Academy could not have taken 314 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: care of that for you, But now that your friends 315 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: in the US Senate have, now Academy can take care 316 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: of everything else you need. And I know that this 317 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: is not starting until twenty twenty three, but look, why 318 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: don't you get a head start on it. 319 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: It's already spring anyway. 320 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, we just sprung forward, So you've got your 321 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: daylight right now. It's not until the evil fall and 322 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: winter get here that we have to worry about the 323 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: four thirty sunsets here in Nashville. But Academy Sports and Outdoors, 324 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: no matter what it is, you're getting yourself into this 325 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: spring and summer Academy Sports and Outdoors and Academy dot Com. 326 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: If you can't make it there in person, that is 327 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: the place for you. Tell you where else they're watching 328 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: us tonight. They're watching us, believe it or not. In Anchorage, Alaska, 329 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Yes they are. They're watching us in Franklin, Ohio, and 330 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: LaBelle or maybe it's the why sound. Maybe it's Lebay, Florida. 331 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I bet you it's LaBelle, Florida. Anyway, they're watching us 332 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: in all three locations. Thank you so much for that, 333 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: And with that we shift our attention to This may 334 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: sound boring to some of you because I'm about to 335 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: talk about acc of football. Wait until you hear what 336 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: I talk about, because a lot of this is going 337 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to directly impact you. Because if your team participates and 338 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: has any aspiration of achieving anything of relevance in this sport, 339 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: you may be in competition not only in the recruiting trail, 340 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: but also just flat out in the playoff conversation with 341 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these programs. Yeah, hey, imagine a world 342 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: where multiple ACC programs, maybe a little ways down the road, 343 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: are competing for the playoff. Let's dive into this. Here 344 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you go, Colin, here's your endpointment, ACC Spring focus. Here 345 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: we go, art it Clemson. We got to start at quarterback. 346 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: This is the most obvious point of focus for anyone 347 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: up and down the Atlantic. 348 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Coast Conference last year. 349 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Even if things started to go sideways, which they did 350 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: early on, and it looked like dj Uyagulilay wasn't quite 351 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: playing at the level we all thought he. 352 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Was, it just was what it was. That's what you 353 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: had to tell yourself. 354 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: In fact, I guarantee you a lot of folks in 355 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: rock Hill, South Carolina, for example, where they're watching this tonight. 356 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: If you are a Clemson Tiger fan, I know that's 357 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: game cod Country. 358 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: But if you're a Clemson Tiger. 359 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Fan, there you're watching and you're saying, on one hand, 360 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't like what I'm seeing from DJ that much 361 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: is true. On the other hand, looking at our depth 362 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: chart here, Uh nope, nothing there. It kind of is 363 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: what it is. Well, this year Let's hope that we 364 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: don't have to get that far. Let's hope you don't 365 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: have to look at the TV screen again and say, ooh, 366 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: dj not looking good again this year. But if you 367 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: do say that, maybe this year it's not just it 368 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: is what it is. Maybe ka Klubnet comes in to 369 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: a five star true freshman, and maybe he makes you say, 370 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: all right, I don't like what I'm seeing so far, 371 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: but now we've got an option. 372 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: Dabos. He knows how important this is. He has been 373 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: very open about this. 374 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: And spoken about how it's a good thing that Flipnick 375 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: is in for the spring. 376 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: He's talking about giving him a ton of reps. 377 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: They got to see what they have in him, because 378 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: they've got to see, really if they have two legitimate 379 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they feel comfortable going into a game week with. 380 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's going to end up being the case. 381 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people have very high hopes for Kklubnick. 382 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: I am one of them. Fairness, they had high hopes 383 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: for dj uyangli La. It's not like we're writing the 384 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: guy off. He's been a starter for a grand total 385 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: of one year. But if that is the worst case 386 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: this year and the worst case is got another five 387 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: star on deck here, Let's try him out. That's not 388 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the worst place to be in the world. Down the 389 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: road a considerable ways. 390 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: At Miami, what would you ask what's your biggest area 391 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: of focus? Would you be asking about quarterback? 392 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: That's fair, you could just be asking about the entire staff, 393 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: because everyone in the house is brand new. I'll tell 394 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: you what I am focused on. I should note, by 395 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: the way, Anna Marcelo did this full feature the other day. 396 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I took a lot from the cues that he listed 397 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: because he had a number of good points to make. 398 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: I think Hummer did the sec piece for that matter. 399 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: But at Miami there are some really really atrocious numbers 400 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: in the department of tackling from last year, in fact, 401 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: the last three years, they were very poor, very poor 402 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: tackling team tackling. I mean, I don't know that you 403 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: get the best read on this in spring football, but 404 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: my goodness, they were one hundred and twenty seventh in 405 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: FBS in tackling last year. That puts them dead last, 406 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: worst Power five tackling team in the country. And it 407 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: wasn't a good thing when your head coach was a 408 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: former defensive coordinator you know, that's you want your thumbprint 409 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: on the program. And if you're a defensive guy and 410 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: that's your thumbprint, it kind of gives you a pretty 411 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: good indication why they felt like it was time to 412 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: move on. Like I said, this is not the easiest 413 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: thing to gauge. A lot of time you're thunder it. 414 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: A lot of times you're just thudding in practice period, 415 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: no matter what time of year it is. 416 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: But especially in spring. 417 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: But at the very least, when we get to the 418 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: spring game, we'll get to see somewhat a vision of that. 419 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Steele's the defensive coordinator there now for those who 420 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: haven't kept up, so let's keep an eye on Miami tackling. 421 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: What about in Tallahassee? What about Florida State? Florida State. 422 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: The theme with the Seminoles, to me, is the same 423 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: version of Auburn's theme when we talked about the Tigers 424 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: there in the SEC. It's not one position I'm focused on, 425 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: it's just the program overall. It's the general level of play. 426 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: Mike Norvel is entering his third season. The first year 427 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: was that COVID year where they didn't get spring, so 428 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: they weren't doing anything this time two years ago. But 429 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: there isn't one bright blinking red light on the program. 430 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: There are a number of areas they've had a varying 431 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: degree of deficiency in now. To his credit, and we've 432 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: talked about this in the last two weeks, Mike Norvel 433 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't come in and preach anything other than that. He 434 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: didn't come in and try and fool people. He didn't 435 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: come in and promise the world year one or year two. 436 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: He didn't say, give me twelve months and we have 437 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: this thing turned around. He knew, he did an honest assessment, 438 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: and then he was honest with his fan base and 439 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: his boosters and whatnot. They have massively relied on the portal. 440 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: And so now when you got that plus a couple 441 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: of recruiting cycles under your belt, you look at their roster. 442 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: It's his. 443 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: His team now doesn't take as long as it used to, 444 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: especially when you use the methods that they've used. 445 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: How do you get to eight wins? 446 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: If you talk to most Florida State fans, that eight number, 447 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: it's a very common number. They look at it and 448 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: they say, if we could get eight wins out of 449 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: this schedule, that would no matter how we got there. 450 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: That would definitively leave me to believe we're on the 451 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: right track. You could achieve that with seven wins or 452 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: nine wins, but eight wins. Where do you find eight wins? 453 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: What level of play do we have to be at 454 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: to meet that eight win threshold. It's a very realistic goal. 455 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I think it's attainable. You're looking at the schedule right 456 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: now for Florida State in twenty twenty two. If you're 457 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, Ducaine talked about the pronunciation there. We've 458 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: been doing flashcards in the newsroom there, so Ducaine to open. 459 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: They do have LSU this year to the Florida State seminoles. 460 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: But it's a workable schedule. It's an acc schedule. It's 461 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: a workable schedule. 462 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: Eight wins. 463 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: What kind of level player we're looking at. Georgia Tech's 464 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a program we haven't talked about in a hot minute 465 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: around here, so let me touch on them because it's 466 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of the same theme at Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech 467 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: at the conclusion of last year, there were a lot 468 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: of folks who thought that there was going to be 469 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: complete staff overhaul, and there almost was, but not at 470 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: the head coaching position. So Jeff Collins is still there, 471 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: but he replaced I believe, yes, six of ten assistant coaches. 472 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: So I think it was Marcelo who pointed out in 473 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: the feature. Normally, when you've got that either it means 474 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: you've had a ton of success in year four or 475 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: year three, and therefore some guys got poached and you're 476 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: having to overhaul in year four. Rarely, though, are you 477 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: seeing a coach overturned that large a chunk of his 478 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff in year four, Because most of the time, 479 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: if you're having to make that much change voluntarily, it 480 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: normally means just everyone got fired. But that's not the 481 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: case at Georgia Tech kind of a happy medium minus 482 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: the happy and so Jeff Collins has got a lot 483 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: to prove this year. They also lost a lot of 484 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: guys to the portal. The last check twelve, they've had 485 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: twelve guys transfer out of there. But look, that sounds 486 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: like it paints a picture of a no win situation. 487 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily the case. I think 488 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: a lot of times, when you've got a formula that 489 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: has not worked, change is not the worst thing in 490 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: the world. So you know, I would venture to think 491 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: inside that building, whereas you look at these numbers and 492 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: you say, well, if we weren't screwed before, we are now. 493 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I bet there's a little more excitement around there. You 494 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: don't ever relish in people losing their jobs, but it's 495 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: just what you've already tried one way. It doesn't really 496 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: make much sense to keep doing. 497 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: It the same way. 498 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: You just kind of pound your head against a wall. 499 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: It's not like they don't have familiar names walking around 500 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: there either. Chip Long is the offensive coordinator there. Chris 501 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Winki is the quarterbacks coach there. To give you an idea, 502 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not like they brought in or elevated grad assistance 503 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden major Power five assistant coaching positions. 504 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: The overall level of play. It's the same question as 505 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: we have at Florida State. 506 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Lastly, you know there's new coaches in both of the 507 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: major Virginia schools. You got Brent Priet Virginia Tech, and 508 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: you've got Tony Elliott there at Virginia. This was an 509 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: unexpected head coaching change though at Virginia Tony Elliott former 510 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there for a while at Clemson, he goes 511 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: to Charlottesville, Virginia. 512 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: He's the head coach at Virginia. 513 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Now they got a huge offensive line rebuild. I mean 514 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: a big one. Now, I know you talk about a 515 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: lot of them. Oh we got to replace three starters. Yeah, 516 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: they'll tray places with you instantly if you offered it 517 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: to Virginia. 518 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 519 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: So they've had twenty one kids exit via the portal, 520 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: not on the offensive line, that would be a record. 521 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: They've had twenty one kids total exit via the portal. 522 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: The offensive line has just been the position group that 523 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: got the most gutted. They've lost six offensive linemen in 524 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: one cycle. They've lost three starters. They did pick up 525 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: two grad transfer offensive linemen, but they won't be there 526 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: until the summer. So right now as they're going into spring, 527 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: unless something changed in the last twenty four hours, they've 528 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: got one offensive lineman on the roster with any experience 529 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: starting experience. So not the most enviable position for a 530 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: new coaching staff to inherit, but that is what it 531 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: is at Virginia. So I think a lot of people 532 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: from again the old fifty thousand foot spring view, they're 533 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: probably going to look at Virginia and anybody who ever 534 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: believed in Tony Elliott. They'll look and they'll say, oh, 535 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Tony Elliott plus Armstrong still there the quarterback, so he 536 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: gets a returning starter at quarterback. Maybe they'll be a 537 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: pop team in year one. You better have an offensive 538 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: line to play behind. They don't have it right now, 539 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: so they could be. 540 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: It could be a rough year for them unless some real, real, 541 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: real magic happens in development and then probably the post 542 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: spring transfer portal. 543 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Two boys some interesting things to talk about still tonight, 544 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: and it's a good thing because they're watching us in Delanaga, 545 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: Georgia took a field trip to Delanago one year also 546 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: which taf falls Texas tuned in, which is apropos because 547 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: we're taking the Mood Tracker out to the lone Star 548 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: State tonight. 549 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys being tuned in wherever you are. 550 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: By the way, the. 551 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Moon Tracker rolls on tonight and we are headed to 552 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: College Station Texas, the Texas A and m Aggie's Now, I've 553 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: got I got a lot of love for Texas A 554 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and m right now. It's a big program, so therefore 555 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: it's a big fan base. We have a large chunk 556 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: of our viewership. 557 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: From A and M. But that's not the reason I 558 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: love them at the moment. At least, it's a general reason. 559 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why I love A and M right now. 560 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: Two reasons. 561 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Actually, they are doing the Lord's work in batting down 562 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: a couple of the big lies in college football. You know, 563 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: the big lies. We've spoken about them. They are numerous. 564 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: But two of the big lies are stars. 565 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: Are overrated and you are what your record says you are, 566 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M's out here fighting a good fight. 567 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: First off, let's talk about you are what your record 568 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: says you are, which none of us believe in on 569 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: this show. 570 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: It's one of the big lies in college football. 571 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, there's a whole lot of excitement around A and M, 572 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: a whole lot of hype, but they just went eight 573 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: and four. How do we explain the two there's unusual 574 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: hype around Texas A and M. 575 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: They're not always this way. 576 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: So anyone who comes up and says, oh, A and 577 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: M's always that way, No, they haven't been. There's never 578 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: been this level of collective excitement hype around this program, 579 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: yet they just went eight and four. How do you 580 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: explain that? If you are what your record says you are. Well, 581 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: it is who you played and it's who you beat. 582 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: That's how you explain it. And then you got to 583 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: know the circumstances. You got a quarterback get knocked out, 584 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: so your reassess expectations at that point. But they played 585 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: in the SEC and they also beat Alabama, so with 586 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback they did both of those things. They 587 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: won eight games. It's not always just strictly you are 588 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: what your record says you are. There's a lot more 589 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: context that is included there. And then the stars don't matter, crowd. 590 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: I really want you guys to pull up a cheer, 591 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: make room on the front row. Let the stars don't matter, crowd, 592 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: have your seat for a second, because I need them 593 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: to see what's about to happen at Texas A and M. 594 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: It's not going to take three years. This class they 595 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: just brought. 596 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: In, don't know which ones yet, but a number of 597 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: those guys are going to be impact players as true freshmen. 598 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Not only is it the highest rated class in A 599 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: and M history, let me remind everyone highest rated class 600 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: in recruiting history. 601 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: And we've been doing this for quite a while now. 602 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: At twenty four to seven sports, highest rated class in 603 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: all of the history of major college football recruiting. That's 604 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: why they're excited. And I know a lot of you 605 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: out there who have the defense mechanism up. You're not 606 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: an A and M fan. Maybe you're looking and you're saying, oh, yeah, 607 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: but some of those guys will transfer. 608 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: They will. 609 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Can almost assure you some of the guys in this 610 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: class will transfer. Yeah, so will yours. By the way, 611 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: at your program wherever you are. 612 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Some of them won't pan out. 613 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: I can promise you they won't. Some of them absolutely 614 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: will not pan out. But here's what's going to happen. 615 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: Even after you apply both of those filters. There are 616 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: going to be some studs out of this class that 617 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: play this year, and then they're going to be one 618 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: to two dozen of them who end up doing extremely, 619 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: extremely big things. I don't know that I've ever used 620 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: that combination in the sentence in College station. So anyway, 621 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: those two things I personally appreciate because the two big 622 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: lies in college football that A and M's helping to 623 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: put a fire extinguisher on couldn't approve any more of 624 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: the work they're doing there. 625 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: Which brings me to the mood. What's the mood? 626 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: This is the mood tracker. We're taking a temperature to 627 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the fan base. What's the mood? Well, I was over 628 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: on tech SAgs and I've been doing it for seventy 629 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: two hours now because we had our Sunday show delayed 630 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: and over at giggam twenty four to seven, and I 631 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: was asking our friends over on. 632 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: Both boards fill in the blank. 633 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: You know the drill My mood towards Texas A and 634 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: M football is what There were virtually no people that 635 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: had any kind of any kind of temperament. But yet 636 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: there's also not that collective we're over the cliff now, 637 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: you know, we've jumped. 638 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: It's not, it's kind of it's kind of a combination. 639 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: It's kind of a blending of the two. 640 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: So here's what I labeled it as the mood at 641 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Texas A and M Right now it is blueprint euphoria. 642 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: This is a long suffering fan base. 643 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: You got to understand something when you talk to a 644 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: group of Texas A and M fans. They've seen a lot, 645 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: they've been around the block. They've understood heartache, they've understood underachievement. 646 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: They know how high they should have been flying a 647 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: long time ago. Well that's in the past, but they 648 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: feel like they've got the blueprint to address it now, 649 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: and they feel like they've got the guy in Jimbo 650 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: Fisher to address it now. For a program that has 651 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: not sniffed the college football playoff, these folks have a 652 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty darn good understanding of where they are right now 653 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: in the college football playoff picture, and that is not there, 654 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: but well on their way, and that's how they kind 655 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: of view their expectations. That's the prism with which they 656 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: view their expectations. There's a ton of enthusiasm. There is 657 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: not a doubt about the overall ultimate destiny of the program. 658 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: Every one of them expect to get there, and most 659 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: of them expect to eventually win a national championship. They 660 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: don't have their chips all in on twenty twenty two, 661 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: though they expect improvement. They expect they expect some tangible 662 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: progress to be made in certain areas like, for example, 663 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: being able to do better down the field on third 664 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: down and in just stretching the field in general wide 665 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: receiver position. They expect to see an infusion of this 666 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: young talent. They expect to improve at quarterback and build 667 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: depth there so that they can stay healthy, and even 668 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: if they don't, they don't have to watch their entire 669 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: season go off. The rails get better along both lines 670 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. See that defensive line class start to get 671 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: their roots planted there. Yeah, yeah, well they want to 672 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: see all that. That doesn't automatically mean eleven and one 673 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: in a playoff trip or a trip to Atlanta for 674 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: the SEC title game. If it turns out that way, great, 675 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: But the mood around Texas A and M does not 676 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: revolve around. 677 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: What are we going to do this year? It's what 678 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: are we going to do over the next decade. 679 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: It's not a lightning and a bottle approach at Texas 680 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: A and M. Right now, That's what I'm trying to 681 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: tell you. They are a lot more of the mindset 682 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: of trying to build a mansion than a bouncy castle. 683 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Some programs have to build up two or three years 684 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: just to try and pop one year. 685 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: That's not the model here. 686 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: The model here is that they have invested maximum in 687 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: facilities and resources. In general, they are a maximum investor 688 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: in recruiting and so now they're not building towards a year. 689 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: At Texas A and M. 690 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: They're building towards several years, hopefully consecutively down the road. 691 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: This is not the approach to Texas A and M. 692 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not a year, it's the next several years. And 693 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of the mood right now. So they believe 694 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: in the blueprint. They are euphoric about the blueprint, and 695 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: they're euphoric about finally haven't. As they see it, the 696 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: right guy and Jimbo Fisher has hired a great staff 697 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: and they're not making excuses. In fact, they're pretty big 698 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: chested about it. They're very boisterous about it. But it's 699 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: a confidence thing. They appreciate that, and they really don't 700 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: care that you don't appreciate it. It's kind of the same 701 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: way we've talked for a while now about their game 702 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: day traditions and their traditions at A and M. 703 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: In general. I love going out there because you know. 704 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: All the aggie fans will tell you, look, we know 705 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: we get made fun of. But now that you're here, 706 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: and I love going out there, so I appreciate it. 707 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: So once they see you appreciate it, they'll let you 708 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: in on the secret. And the secret is, hey, if 709 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: you're in this thing, it makes perfect sense, and if 710 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: you're not of it, you'll never understand it anyway. 711 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: So we don't really worry about all that. 712 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: So I go to A and M and I, you know, 713 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I talk about how great it is, and then I'll 714 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: have people tell me, oh, it's this, it's that. 715 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: It's your opinion. I got mine. I happen to love 716 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: it out there. 717 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it has something to do with the fact that 718 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: it's always sold out in about seventy degrees when I 719 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: go out there. So, however, you guys do that, keep 720 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: it up. But it's not about a year. It's not 721 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: about oh, could we build towards twenty twenty four, twenty five, 722 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: or could we we got to make it happen this 723 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: year in twenty two. It's not that they are building 724 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: a very, very sustainable, long term run type of program there. 725 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: So blueprint euphoria. 726 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: That's what I arrived at as the mood right now 727 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: for Texas and M. How about the fact that they're 728 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: watching us in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada tonight. A lot of 729 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: these a lot of these towns. I gotta be honest 730 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: with you. I grew up watching pro wrestling, so I 731 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: remember towns like Vancouver, and Calgary and Toronto and Montreal 732 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and Hamilton. I remember them from pay per views. I 733 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: think Breakdown ninety eight, Jesse. Breakdown ninety eight was probably 734 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: in Hamilton. So there you go, Hamilton, Georgia, about ten 735 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: minutes north before I grew up at Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. 736 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: They're watching us there Tullahoma, Tennessee. They're tuned in Denver, Colorado, 737 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: tuned in. Thank you guys so much for that. So 738 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: I want to wrap it up with a question tonight 739 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: that one of you had three days ago and we're 740 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: just now being able to. 741 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: Get to it. I'll wait for the graphic. There we go. Okay, 742 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: here we go. Colm. 743 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on in media right now. 744 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: Troy Hatman getting about eighteen to five a year to 745 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: go to ESPN, Joe Buck around fourteen to fifteen million 746 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: a year, a lot of big moves. 747 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: You know what. 748 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Our buddy Kirkurbstreet's on the move too, one of you 749 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: asked RJ. Neil actually asked, kirkerb Street doing double duty 750 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: now for Amazon and ESPN, what are your thoughts on that? 751 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: Now? In case you miss this, and a lot of 752 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: you may have. 753 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Marshan with The New York Post was the first 754 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: to break this story about a week ago. 755 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: Now, so it appears. 756 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that Amazon's put out an official release, 757 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: but according to Andrew marsh On of The New York Post, 758 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: kirkurb Street's going to do the Thursday night NFL package 759 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: for Amazon. Side note, Amazon is going to have Thursday 760 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Night Football, So kirkirk Street doing the Thursday night lead 761 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: analyst position for Amazon. Now, the first thing that probably 762 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: pops in your mind is he's leaving college football. 763 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: No, doesn't appear that way. 764 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: It appears, according to the report that he will still 765 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: fulfill all of his college football duties that I assume 766 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: is game day and the Saturday night game on ABC. 767 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: A lot of work, even if you got the PJ 768 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: got the old private jet, it's a lot of work. 769 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: Probably cut out to do it, though, you know, if 770 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: we know Kirk Ckurbstreet like we all think we do 771 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: by this point, yeah, I think he's cut out to 772 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: do it. But this is an interesting question because then 773 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: we got a lot of follow ups on this. I 774 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: picked one question, but like ten of you asked about this, 775 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot of you just want to know. Well, Number one, 776 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: everyone always wants to know how much money someone's making, 777 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: and fortunately for you, I have some intel on this. 778 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Approximately a bazillion dollars. That's how much Herbstreet signed with 779 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: Amazon for. So congratulations there. Next question that a lot 780 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: of you have is why in the world is the 781 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: talent in the booth being paid, in some cases more 782 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: than the talent on the field. This is where you 783 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: get a lot of folks into pretty heated arguments. So 784 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm just going to give you a little bit of 785 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: behind the scenes media look and not necessarily even my 786 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: opinion on this. My opinion is good for kirkurve Street. 787 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Everybody go get as much money as you can. That's 788 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: my opinion on it. Don't forget where you came from. 789 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: I guess would be my follow up. But secondly, you 790 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: got to understand the evolution. Think about the way that you. 791 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Watch college football or watch the NFL. 792 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: You have watched it forever on CBS or NBC or Fox, 793 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: and because you've always known you have to go to 794 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: those legacy media outlets to consume those big sporting products 795 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: like the NFL, it's never been necessary for them to 796 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: have big names in the booth, recognizable names. 797 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: They've had them, but they weren't. 798 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: Necessary because you're going to watch Steelers Bengals, even if 799 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: you have to watch it on mute. Some of you 800 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: watch the game on mute anyway. Some of you do 801 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: not care for the broadcast experience during a game, that's 802 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: your prerogative. The data shows vast majority of you do 803 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: listen to the broadcast feed and so therefore, for a 804 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: long time you had one approach. Well, now you have 805 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: non legacy entities entering the equation. You're Amazon's for example, 806 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: they won't be the last, they're just the one there. Now, 807 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: Netflix could be there, of course, YouTube TV there well. Anyway, 808 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: those are not places that you have been trained to go. 809 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: And so what do they have to do. They have 810 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: to attract you there now having the product itself if 811 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: it's if it's desirable enough, people will go find it. 812 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: And we all know that, I mean every metric in 813 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: our industry shows that. But it helps to have attractive 814 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: names attached to your product, especially if you are a 815 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: non legacy outlet or an entity like Amazon, and so 816 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: that's why they're willing to do that. Also, I don't 817 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: know if you've noticed, but it's Amazon, So there weren't 818 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money. They have it to throw around. 819 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: We just broke the news that Herberstreet's making a bazillion dollars. 820 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: Even that is still only a small sliver of the 821 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: Amazon pie. They're doing it because they can, and they're 822 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: doing it because it's very smart business. But I think 823 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy to look at and I think it's sending 824 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: kind of a reverberation throughout that industry. Makes people like 825 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: me wonder why I never got in the booth or 826 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: try it out. I did Columbus Lions games for a while, 827 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: so if anyone's listening, I don't even. 828 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: Require a bazilion. 829 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I'll take half that, right, you know what, The philanthropic 830 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: side of me is even willing to take a quarter 831 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: of that to go do games in the booth. But 832 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: real talk here, you know, it's an evolution. Now, you've 833 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: never seen guys make anywhere close to that much, Which 834 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: brings you back to a guy in kirkurb Street who 835 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: you've always viewed as a college football lifer. 836 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine when this offer was put 837 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: on his play. 838 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: There were rumors, there have been there are always rumors 839 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: about what everyone's going to do next. But you know, 840 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: you would always hear things about kirkurb Street and other names, 841 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe that Monday night football spot or 842 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe an NFL spot, and he's done some NFL games. 843 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: This wouldn't be a first for him. But how do 844 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: you say no to this? 845 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Who in the world when there I dare anyone to 846 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: tell me that's say no to this. You're talking about 847 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: generationally life changing money. Just doing it for six months 848 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: or five months for one time for all I know, 849 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: he'll do it for the next decade. 850 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: But man, you do this. Once you spend that wheel, once. 851 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: You have you have lined your pockets and the pockets 852 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: of your grandchildren great grandchild for a long time to come. 853 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: So congratulations there. 854 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the last big name from the 855 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: traditionally college type landscape that is going to test the 856 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: waters of the NFL. That's kind of the way it 857 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: is now. Now, I'll tell you what else is interesting. 858 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: This new concept of it used to be that a 859 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: guy worked for a company. Well, now you're seeing guys 860 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: where one blazer with a logo on it for one 861 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: week and then and then the next night they're on 862 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: another network. 863 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: That's another interesting concept. 864 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: When you mix TV and digital, when you mix TV 865 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: and streaming, Just telling you the contracts the way they're 866 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: written in our industry, the language is being updated. 867 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: In fact, their lawyer's working on that as we speak. 868 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 2: Doesn't used to speak. 869 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: You had to guard against your guys going and doing 870 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: work for other networks. Well, now, what in the world 871 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: was Amazon five years ago, ten years ago, and wasn't 872 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: anywhere that you're on air talent was ever going to 873 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: do an NFL game? 874 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 2: A lot of interesting. 875 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: Times that we're in right now. But that's my thought there. 876 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Good for Kirkirkstreet's that's my stance on that. 877 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for watching. It's a Tuesday night show. 878 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: We obviously don't do Tuesday night shows in the off 879 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: season very often, but we had to do it tonight 880 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: because we owe you one. 881 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for this. 882 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: Remember, whether you're watching on YouTube or whether you're listening 883 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: on any of the podcast platforms, the big, big, big 884 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: help that you can give. 885 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: Us right now is subscribing. 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