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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs. You should know, good know, you should

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Speaker 2: nobody know. Yeah yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Back with another exclusive rock Solid podcast. Yours truly am

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Speaker 2: greasy and I got one of my good good friends.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when I first got in this game, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not a lot of guys that was young and

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Speaker 2: spitting like us. It was Ce's, it was Ji, it

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Speaker 2: was the Locks, you know what I mean, you had

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Speaker 2: illegal But the first one really from the projects putting

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Speaker 2: in that work before all of us, was my man

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Speaker 2: right here, Shahim, the motherfucking rugged child aka the Mad Child.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome my guys, my brother, my god.

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Speaker 3: Make it easy money, yo.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so ill man?

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Speaker 2: Like before we even started to interview, Like, my g

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Speaker 2: I gotta thank you in some way for being too

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Speaker 2: hot back in the day, Like because if you think

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Speaker 2: about it, you was on so much fire that way.

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Speaker 2: Hove reached out to you.

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Speaker 3: Hove never reached out to me.

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Speaker 2: You can't your people. You know, niggas have representatives, you

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Speaker 2: know how that ship was back in the day. Everybody's speaking.

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Speaker 4: And I always say this right because when I read

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Speaker 4: it in the book, I was, I was, I was,

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Speaker 4: I was up north when I read it, and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 4: I never knew of this, right that yo, that when

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Speaker 4: you know, he seen me running with Caine and we

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Speaker 4: did the show and proved record that he was inspired

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Speaker 4: by by a young dude in the game making moves

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Speaker 4: that he wanted to create this record, and he said

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Speaker 4: he reached out to my people's but he never said who,

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Speaker 4: and nobody ever stepped up. Nobody ever stepped up, Like

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Speaker 4: know he called me and that nobody did that. So

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Speaker 4: I felt like like I felt like, damn, you know

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Speaker 4: what that that was a missed opportunity. But at the

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Speaker 4: same time, it was a blessing, right, it was a

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Speaker 4: blessing because yet and still I was the one that

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Speaker 4: inspired him to write it. But it was your blessing

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Speaker 4: because it was supposed to happen for me would have happened.

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Speaker 4: But I always still be wondering if if you watch

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Speaker 4: this man, who you re sauting man, because that's.

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Speaker 2: That's because I always thought, you know, you was on tall.

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Speaker 4: Was always was you know me man. We grew up

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Speaker 4: in the lyrical days, right. And when I first heard

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Speaker 4: whole when he said, I'm like Prince Jeans, I bring

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Speaker 4: the assert a nigga, I thought he was an illus nigger.

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Speaker 3: Ever as well, so for me, I'm like, yo, I got.

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Speaker 4: Records with smoother hustler sugar again, right, why would I

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Speaker 4: deny hold a record that that That didn't make no sense?

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Speaker 3: But again that happened in the business.

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Speaker 4: And then I thought, I said, yo, you know what,

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Speaker 4: he probably was just trying to go to handle Is

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Speaker 3: And I just be like, yo, because I used to.

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Speaker 4: See him, you know, I called him Massie and he

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Speaker 4: pulled up. I was like, Yo, you could have just said, yo, Shot,

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Speaker 4: I want you on.

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Speaker 3: The record, and it would have been it would have

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Speaker 2: But you know it is And that's the thing a

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Speaker 2: lot of people don't know, Sha. I used to definitely

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Speaker 2: pull up in Massie. We have mutual peoples. I used

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Speaker 2: to go to staple To. That's when I first met you.

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Speaker 2: When that's when you Yeah, we was just rhyming. But

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Speaker 2: be like Yo, it was a sight for niggas.

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Speaker 1: Was bad and there it was. No, it was nothing

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Speaker 1: like like yo, I burnt you or nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: Was like you was on.

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Speaker 2: So that even rhyme against a nigga who had a

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Speaker 2: deal that I could watch your video music box. You

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Speaker 2: gotta remember back then to a nigga. Remember this is

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Speaker 2: ninety four my name. We told him out before it

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Speaker 3: On the one. I remember it was.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the hard knocked life,

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Speaker 2: On went on. You know what.

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Speaker 1: See you know what it was member of Rest in

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Speaker 3: They used to always try to pin us together.

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Speaker 2: That how I met you like was through him. You know,

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Speaker 2: we had mutual friends. My man kayl that was his brother.

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Speaker 2: So when I came to stat Nolan and kay Lou, Yo,

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Speaker 2: this is my dude, bleak, nobody fucking with him salace Like,

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Speaker 2: ain't nobody fucking.

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Speaker 1: He ain't got you. You came out with the.

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Speaker 2: Honey niggas from the hood.

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Speaker 4: Man, I don't remember that write what I'm saying with them, right,

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Speaker 4: But listen, honestly.

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Speaker 3: I don't movies going out. I was like, yo, I

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Speaker 2: No, No, we down, yo, Bro, we just probably you

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Speaker 2: probably spent one verse.

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Speaker 1: I spent one verse.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like a major sighthering it. After that, Bro,

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Speaker 2: we went to the crib. You brought me to your

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Speaker 2: crib and at that time we were smoking. We blew

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Speaker 2: it down. No, I ain't gonna front man. I always

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Speaker 2: say I met you ghost Rizza all y'all in the

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Speaker 3: You know, sounds definitely stat down legend.

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Speaker 2: N But like, take us back, because you was the

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Speaker 2: first nigga from the projects, little nigga who really looked

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Speaker 2: like us, Like you had your criss Cross, you had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I was the first

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Speaker 4: I actually had to fight through a lot of things

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Speaker 4: that I was talking about because they wanted it. They

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Speaker 4: you to be able to come with a sticker, I mean,

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Speaker 4: a piece of gum in your album type ship, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, especial. Yeah, So I had to

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Speaker 4: And even with the films, I was one of the

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Speaker 4: it sucks when you take the hit because once everybody

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Speaker 2: That's a fact. So, but how old were you when

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Speaker 4: I signed the Virgin I was thirteen. I was thirteen

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Speaker 4: when I made my first deal. I signed for three fifty.

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Speaker 4: My first deal was one of the biggest deals in history,

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Speaker 4: and that was because Virgin and Warner Brothers had a

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Speaker 4: But in hindsight, I should have took the deal with

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Speaker 4: and a spot on The Fresh Prince of bel Air

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Speaker 3: So you know, if they took the production deal to

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Speaker 4: GP Whochang on for an album deal, and you know,

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Speaker 4: that's what happened, you know what I'm saying, And I signed,

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Speaker 4: I was like yo, But I wasn't even trying to

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Speaker 4: be an actor then, because in that days, it was

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Speaker 4: like acting was being a sellout if you was in

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't no role. You couldn't do no role

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Speaker 2: It was like you no.

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Speaker 4: After I'm talking about in nineteen ninety three and ninety four,

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Speaker 4: there wasn't many rappers that was trying to be actors. Actually,

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Speaker 4: Big Daddy Kane took a lot of hits for doing that,

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Speaker 4: being an actor and posse and all that there was,

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Speaker 3: Was considered like, yo, you're selling out for popular pop up.

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Speaker 4: You was considered you know that. So Caine took a

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Speaker 2: But before all of that, Man, your debut album, The

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Speaker 2: Rugged Child, Take me through that process? What was that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: This is before the acting this but you was thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I got the deal, it was it was incredible, right,

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Speaker 4: it was incredible because I was able to look out

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Speaker 3: That was the biggest thing.

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Speaker 4: I remember when I first got my first check man,

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Speaker 4: we went downtown Alvey Square More and I bought my

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Speaker 4: the Rugged Child just wore big clothes because I wanted

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Speaker 3: So when I was able to actually buy.

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Speaker 4: even put food in the frigerator like my friends used

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Speaker 4: to look like water and bacon, soda, My nigga, you

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Speaker 4: know what, I'm saying syrup sandwich and syrup bread like

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Speaker 4: that was my crib.

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Speaker 2: You know that was dessert. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: front on the syrup sandwich ge. That ship was head. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And you know then my mom's you know, my pops

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Speaker 3: So the block was really what raised me.

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Speaker 4: And it's like I took a lot of that that

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Speaker 4: that ship on face value, I threw people really loved me,

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Speaker 4: but it was it was the rugged child, it was

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Speaker 4: the deal, it was the music. And then when real

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Speaker 4: life happens, you know what happened, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I big up your crew because I

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Speaker 4: was like your crew or your parents or whoever grabbed

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Speaker 4: you at that young age, true and and and and

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Speaker 4: made not I don'dn't say made you, but just remove

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Speaker 4: you from that, you know what I'm saying, Or you

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Speaker 4: would have been you would have went through the same

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Speaker 4: shit that I went.

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Speaker 3: Through in the project. Because mostly is just like Staples, that's.

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Speaker 1: A fact, bro.

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Speaker 2: Like that credit I got to give all do to

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Speaker 2: Jay and his cousin be High jazz O you know

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Speaker 2: the source money. He's like, I tried, bro, I was

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Speaker 2: that little nigga wild and them niggas used to come through,

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Speaker 2: shake it up, be like you got what you got

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Speaker 2: this throwing my pack away, take the biscuit. Tell niggas, yo,

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Speaker 2: how you letting this nigga out here do this and

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Speaker 2: all that. So they was the niggas that I used

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Speaker 2: to have to hide from, like trying to be outside,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then growing up in hindsight,

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Speaker 2: When these kids be telling the bugging? But yo, yo,

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Speaker 3: But to actually be on the radio, I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 4: Because I was on I was on a promotional tour.

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Speaker 3: Like, Yo, they playing your video on B and T

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Speaker 4: I remember, that was the funniest thing in the world

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Speaker 2: Yo, being young like you from the projects rapping. This

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Speaker 1: Think he is he think he the thug?

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Speaker 2: Its little nigga. It's little niggas out here thugging too.

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Speaker 3: And from stat now to right because Brooklyn, Brooklyn look.

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Speaker 2: was like, my g how did that work? How did well?

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Speaker 4: The first thing with acting came from Don't Go Chasing

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Speaker 3: That was my first acting job.

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Speaker 2: I forgot you was in that video my first.

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Speaker 3: And you know, and it was the blessing. It was

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Speaker 4: And I always tell people, man, coming up age, you

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Speaker 3: And then they started saying, yo, that son from Marcie,

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Speaker 5: Been in if Blue and all people people they're like, yo,

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Speaker 5: that's my lee and it was just it was just

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Speaker 3: But I definitely always remember that time.

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Speaker 4: So even you know when we go through our ship

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Speaker 4: there joking and.

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Speaker 1: Last that's a fact. They don't know that.

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Speaker 4: But anything you said on that you said to me,

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Speaker 2: Before it was any internet, my nigga, we was out

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Speaker 2: here talking ship.

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Speaker 1: It was always on.

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Speaker 2: That nigga, I'm the nicest king with me and we

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Speaker 2: were that that's the competitive ship in New York, just

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Speaker 2: Tupac Biggie, you came, my nigga, come on, my g

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Speaker 2: helled it down.

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Speaker 4: Yo. It was such a great feeling because like at

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Speaker 4: And then it came was like, yo, he has to

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Speaker 4: Allen right, just to be able to save my burrow

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Speaker 4: and be like.

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Speaker 3: Yo, Wu Tang.

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Speaker 4: People didn't even know Whu tang really like that at

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Speaker 3: He was like yo, always seeing you on the stay because.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like now you had to hear it or

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Speaker 4: I knew people from my neighborhood seen me on that stage.

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Speaker 2: But that shit was on every mixtape. Flex used to

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Speaker 1: My g like and all your.

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Speaker 2: Niggas in your own right respect that held it down.

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Speaker 1: But you was what.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen on stage with these old g's and put that

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Speaker 2: G ship, you held it down for every little nigga

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Speaker 4: And then what I was wearing, we know, we was,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I never forget it out on a blue Columbian rain suit.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He was that nigga back then and there, my G.

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Speaker 2: So then fucking the acting open up different doors for you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't wrap that at that time that you felt.

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Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, definitely because because after after after the TLC video,

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Speaker 4: It was just like, yo, that's the kid from Original

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Speaker 4: Gangsters with Pam grid Fred Williamson. Yo, that's the kid

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Speaker 4: from the Robin Townsend showed parent hood right, But it

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Speaker 3: Different bag than rap hell. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was totally different.

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Speaker 1: But what was the distraction for you?

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Speaker 4: The distraction was staying local, man, staying local and survivors

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Speaker 4: what I should have did was packed my mother up,

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Speaker 4: moved somewhere else where she couldn't be on them drugs,

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Speaker 4: mind right, because that's like taking a young kid now

441
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 4: and giving him life in prison for something he did

442
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 4: at fourteen. His brain ain't fully developed. Your brain don't

443
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 4: fully develop into a certain age, right, So my brain

444
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 4: wasn't developed like that, But I was making grown man decisions.

445
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 4: That's like giving a four year old of machine guns.

446
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 4: You got thirty bodies and then you throw them in

447
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: jail and say, yo, you made mistakes.

448
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 3: And no, I didn't know what else that I was doing.

449
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: But what I knew how to do? You know what

450
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

451
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: And at that time, we had nothing, bro, it was

452
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: no outlets. It was not like I tell my son

453
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: all the time and it's a lot of job opportunities

454
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: for you as a kid.

455
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: Then it was a summer youth job. So that's it.

456
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 3: Or well, what I used to do. I used to

457
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: pack bags in front of Super bowls because you mess,

458
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: Can I help you to your car with your bags?

459
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 4: Or I would collect bottles or things like that, or

460
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 4: ask everybody in the hood.

461
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: Yo, yo yo, I'll go to the store and get

462
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: my little ones and two.

463
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 4: From going to the store, that's how I was able

464
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 4: to buy my Max Maxwell ninety minute tapes. To be

465
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 4: able to go to RNs and get beats and go,

466
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 4: I used to have to. I used to have to

467
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: give Rizza game Boy games for beats.

468
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: Yo, chill me give you this game boy.

469
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: Boy. Your game Boy was legendary.

470
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: But Rizza, you found trade beats for gay boy.

471
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 4: This is what I had to do, you know what

472
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because looks and everybody else that was in

473
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: the crib man was getting beats and you know, so

474
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 4: I had to, you know, come with something.

475
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: And that's dope, man, Like to be the youngest nigga

476
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: from Stapleton, all of y'all, because niggas think all wool

477
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: Tangers from one project. Everybody was from different projects. You

478
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: had Stapleton, park Kill Castle, will Right.

479
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: What is well, nobody was really from that. It was

480
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: really just Stapleton and Paul Hill and Brooklyn. Because you

481
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: keep in mind, majority Jesu Master Killer ray Kun.

482
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: Is really originally from Brooklyn.

483
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: Nah, Ray, don't tell me that from Brooklyn. Don't tell

484
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: me that.

485
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 4: It's really I think it's just ghost inspected that and

486
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 4: even you guys originally but Rizza and the movie to

487
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 4: stat now like I mean, I guess they was teenagers

488
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: still but still at teenagers.

489
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Or whatever, you know, but think about it, bro to

490
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: be that young in the crib with all of that

491
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: at that time, you know, in the middle. I've been

492
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: through it, so I know asking you this question is

493
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 2: like asking myself like we of course we didn't recognize

494
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: the greatness we were creating. We just was creating. But

495
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 2: looking back, what advice would you give your younger self? Man?

496
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: Oh Man, I would definitely say I would definitely say

497
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 4: education is key.

498
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

499
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: If I could go back, I would have definitely went

500
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 4: to college. I would have definitely had those experiences as

501
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 4: a kid, right because that would have gave me the structure,

502
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, to be able to maneuver

503
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 4: in this business.

504
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

505
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: And then by doing right business, then I think my

506
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 4: life would have turned out a little different. As far

507
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: as what I went through. I don't regret anything because

508
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 4: the tools.

509
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 3: That it gave me. That now that I'm able to going.

510
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 4: To these prisons and talk to these youth from experiences

511
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: and really give it to them real and be like yo.

512
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 4: And I'm not one that just talks about it. I'm

513
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: like yo, listen, gee, this is what I walked, this

514
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 4: is what I had, this this is what I left,

515
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: and now I'm still alive.

516
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: And this is why this is what I get my

517
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: get back up.

518
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 4: This what feels good to me when I save ten

519
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 4: kids from not going to prison, and when I give

520
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: them the game and teach them, you know what I'm saying.

521
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: But it's all about the seeds that's playing it, you

522
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And I would just tell my

523
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: youngest self. You know what I'm saying, It'll be all

524
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: right no matter what things happen for you, not to you.

525
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: And that's really it. And you know what I'm saying.

526
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: And you know, always always stay focused, always.

527
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: Stay fact man. Being the youngest, like I said, man,

528
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: you inspired a lot of us. Man, I'm not gonna

529
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: sit here and act like I wasn't inspired. You show

530
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: me that I can do it, you know what I mean? You,

531
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: like I said, the criss Crosses, the ABC's, the illegal youngsters,

532
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: the youngsters, all the Yeah, definitely.

533
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: Caught that the music was PG.

534
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. But you came out the first with

535
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: the hood the gritty, the hoodies on that woo vibe. Like,

536
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you don't get enough credit for being

537
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: the spark of this generation of the young guys that

538
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: came up, because remember you had the bow Wows. After

539
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: that you had Little Romeo, you know what I mean.

540
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: Then you got all the young niggas. Now the game

541
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: is ran by young niggas, and like I said, you

542
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: was the first. So do you feel you get credit

543
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: for being like, you know what I mean, a generational,

544
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: generational gem man?

545
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: Always I was always told this right, You don't have

546
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 4: to tell your story.

547
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: People are telling for you when it's real. You know

548
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

549
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: I think it's not just me, our history in general,

550
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: people don't know.

551
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: So who am I to say? Yo, they don't know me,

552
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: they don't know Malcolm X, they don't know Martin Luther King,

553
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: they don't know the.

554
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: Grace that really made it possible for us to have freedom.

555
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: So listen, it's so good.

556
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: One day they will know, and when they do know,

557
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: then they could do better.

558
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: That's a fact, man, that your time away you know

559
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't like talking about being like, Yo,

560
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: you was incarcerated all several times, like your time away

561
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: from music? You know what I'm saying, What did that

562
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: teach you about yourself?

563
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: It made it was like it was like being in

564
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: themselves was like watching the video tape play back. And

565
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: when I watched that tape, I seen the errors that

566
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 4: I made, and I said, all I can do is

567
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: correct them and do better next time. Like you know

568
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Nobody is exempt for making mistakes.

569
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: We all make them. It's what you do with them after.

570
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

571
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: There's nobody in this business could be like yo, I

572
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: did terrible business with them, or yo, I started making

573
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 4: wax stuff.

574
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: It was just life.

575
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: I became I became a liability in some ways, you

576
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And only right, right, you know

577
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying when you're dealing with business, and it's like, Yo,

578
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: this kid today that we investing in tomorrow he might

579
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: be in project and he called the gun or be

580
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: in the shootout and be in the students stuff. Right,

581
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: why would you invest in that? So it was it

582
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: was a lot of that. So yo, listen, man again,

583
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't have it no other way, you know

584
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because now it's a testament and my

585
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: story could be used to as a prevention and a

586
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: cautionary tale.

587
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: And and that's and that's what it's for.

588
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: Like when you first came home, you know what I mean.

589
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: Like I know, when you first come home, the first

590
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: thing you want to do is get back the family,

591
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: get back your kids, get back there, y'all gonna get

592
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 2: back on the ground. But one thing I respect that

593
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: you did, man, is start your foundation the rugged road,

594
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: the recovery.

595
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I respect that.

596
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: That's that's really that's just and great movement you created.

597
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: Because I said to myself, I want to be what

598
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: I needed. You know what I'm saying, I want to

599
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: be what I really needed. And I know these youth

600
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: needed and they don't want to hear it from somebody

601
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: that really that really can't tell them, like, yo, be

602
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: my moms. My mom's in two state bits. I was

603
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: sixteen years old, taking care of old house, going up

604
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: to Bedford Hills to visit my moms, going up to

605
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: Clinton to visit my pops. But running a household by

606
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 4: myself with a bunch of friends in the house, you

607
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

608
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: And it's like that was just my reality, you know

609
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: what I mean.

610
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: And on the forefront, people just see the music and

611
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: they see that and they think you fumbling the music.

612
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: But when you're dealing with real life at the same time,

613
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: they don't see that of a half.

614
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: So it was just like I was just trying to

615
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: navigate through life, you know what I'm saying.

616
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: Like with that being said, like you know, it's a

617
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: lot of young stars in the game now, and you

618
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: know a lot of these young guys, it's got turbulence

619
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: and they and they track record right now. Man, you

620
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, do you feel like the

621
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: industry do enough to protect young stars?

622
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: It's not for that. Again, it's a business. It's a business.

623
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: In a minute that your business ain't making the money,

624
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: that's what you'll be to.

625
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: The side and trying to figure it out life, you

626
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

627
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: And I tell you, holler at me man, all of

628
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: them out there, man, holler at me man. And it's

629
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: not for no bread or nothing, because I do this

630
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: book for my heart, you know what I'm saying. So

631
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: if there's any a time I don't feel shy, hit

632
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: me on the DM, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give

633
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: you the game. I'm gonna give it to you for

634
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: what it is. You might not like it, but it's

635
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 4: just the truth.

636
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

637
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: Like Yo, And you know what I'm saying. Like being

638
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: from New York, we always consider statn al in the

639
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: Fifth Borough.

640
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well sometimes sometimes it gives a long houran I'm

641
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: just saying, Joe saying, time we get left out, we.

642
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: Got That's what I was gonna say.

643
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel like stant Nell to get enough credit

644
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: for the impact y'all contributed to hip hop? Because you

645
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: was the first shorty Wu Tang was the first project nigga.

646
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of grace

647
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: that come from stat Now. And I get left out

648
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: because you have four some d's who was one of

649
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: the biggest.

650
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: State Don't rock the boat.

651
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, don't rock the boat.

652
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: Then after them, you had you had the US. Then

653
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: you had King just King Justice and he was.

654
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: The first nigga with night style, pending, no front, no cat.

655
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: Now bond click. You had a e mom from stat

656
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: now and uh who else? Uh?

657
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: What's her name? Melissa Alano?

658
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Yet mac wows that's my dog.

659
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: I got a lot of got a lot of a

660
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: lot of.

661
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Great Yes, yes, what's my dog my other dog from

662
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: the wire man.

663
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: Come on, man, we got hell we got a little

664
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: little rainy uh from power Yo.

665
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: But hold on, man, let's get back to my man

666
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: hot song man. The nigga invited me like, yo, bleak,

667
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I got the club and stand there and pull up.

668
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: You know, I'm throwing my birthday party. I'm like, I'm

669
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: a pull up. He's like, Yo, it's it's right there

670
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: in the hood, Bros.

671
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: I got you.

672
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: We're good I'm like, don't worry about we good cool.

673
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I pull up my nigga. This nigga went to the store.

674
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: You know how the store has like the story shared

675
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: with the opening store on the back. His club was

676
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: down there, so I'm like, Yo, now my nigga, we

677
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: gotta walk in. So he opened the joint. We walked

678
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: down and it's a real club. DJ chicks down there.

679
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: Bodyes everything. Yo. Broke my mind for yo.

680
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: Because they was doing for Saint Paul's. It's like it

681
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: looked like apartment and you go in. You got down.

682
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Joe, this ship was insane. Nigga bought me through the

683
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 2: store and ship, and I'm like, Joe, I never with him.

684
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: I've been seeing corner stores my whole life. I see

685
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: them open that, but they don't let us in there.

686
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I never really had clubs. We really just

687
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: had like balls and little speakeasies. You know what I'm

688
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: saying that that club.

689
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: Yo, I definitely got a lot of man like you

690
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like hip hop today? Man, you

691
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Looking back Wu Tang legacy, everything

692
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: y'all contributed because the Woo legacy, I feel like you

693
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: was part of that. You know what I mean that

694
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: they can't. I'm not gonna leave you out of that

695
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: because when they first started, you was right there with

696
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: all of them, making the same exact hits as them.

697
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: You just had a little bit of turbulent in your

698
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: life the way people might forget, but to me, you

699
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: was always a part of that legacy. Man, Like, do

700
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: you feel like what y'all contributed to the game ever

701
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: get misunderstood? Or do you feel like it's larger than

702
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: you ever?

703
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: Listen? Listen, WU Tang is nominated to be in the

704
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: rock Rock Rock? What's that rock? Hall of Fame?

705
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Rock?

706
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: And don't get that? So when they make it, I

707
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: make it. That's what I'm saying. It's all good. Like

708
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Am I gonna be on

709
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: the stage and probably not? You know what I'm saying.

710
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: I always tell people this just three mood sangs. You

711
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Who saying? The corporation?

712
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: You may know as a business that yo, if you

713
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: ain't doing the business with the corporation, ain't no really

714
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: room for you.

715
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: And it's the group.

716
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: Forty W Tang numbers, but for life, that's a fact, man,

717
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: and I respect that y'all all still show love because

718
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: I just seen you with meth you know, rest in

719
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: peace to the you know, I mean, I've seen you

720
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: with ghost Red And that's that's dope, man, Because you know,

721
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people forget where they come from when

722
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: they say you get.

723
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Success, you know what I mean?

724
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: And these is fucking giant and success and they still

725
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: fuck with where they come from.

726
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: But like I say, it's different relationships, right, So you

727
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: have although you have all the success, like for instance,

728
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: you lose a loved one that everybody knows. You got

729
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: to come back to the bottom, right, and you gotta

730
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: be with your peoples. So if you can't come back

731
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: home what you really got, you really don't got nothing.

732
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: That's a fact. If you can't go back, you ain't

733
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: got nothing, man.

734
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, nah, the Klan to Klan everybody man, you know.

735
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: And and with the Internet sometime, with it being so

736
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: much music out there, these people still pop the brown hornet,

737
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, gp Wull. That's all the

738
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: dudes that still they still everybody's still making music, but

739
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: it's just so much.

740
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: That it gets lost in it.

741
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: And the Klan being so big, like even for me,

742
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: Like I've made a lot of accomplishments, but being.

743
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: Under the Klan, it gets swallowed. You could get swallowed.

744
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: I know. You know you can make a hit right

745
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: now and they're gonna be like, yeah, that's.

746
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: A fact, bro. It's like it's like holding a candle

747
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: to the sun, my nigger. I've been dealing with that

748
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: ship my whole life, so I totally agree, Like do

749
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: you feel I know you one that we spoke because

750
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: you hit me? You know, I have my dog shout out,

751
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: Cassidy shot my dog up here, so this episode and

752
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: shot hit me like bleak. I gotta niggas it ain't

753
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: happened like that. I ain't leave the dog like that.

754
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, shah, he didn't shit on.

755
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: You, No he didn't. He did not ship on me.

756
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: But this is right.

757
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: It's like what they call that suggestive, suggestive conversation and

758
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: leading right.

759
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: So first, right, because it was two parts of this story.

760
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: He said, he said, he said, I left him stranded,

761
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: you called, you told him come to New York, and

762
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: then answer the fune.

763
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: First, First, we have to be together for me to

764
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: leave you. So I didn't leave you nowhere we never linked.

765
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take you back to nineteen ninety four.

766
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: Now you know who I am in nineteen ninety.

767
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Five, right already, I'm gonna super lit.

768
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: Cassidy was a young rapper spying to be get on

769
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: or whatever.

770
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: Whatever. I'm in Philly coming out of a sneaker store.

771
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't remember if they asked me could he wrap

772
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: for me, or if they was already rapping.

773
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: And you know us, we've seen the cipher. We was

774
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: going to see what it was about.

775
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: And to this day, Cassidy is a nice in sea. Right,

776
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: So yo, we cannot connect that. I said, Yo, here's

777
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: my number again, I give him my house number. I

778
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 4: didn't have a set, no cell phones many people that

779
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: have cell phones.

780
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: Was big time drug dealers, a flash businessman, because you

781
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: needed to credit that.

782
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: When Biggie said phone built three g's flat, he was.

783
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: Not like it was like ten ten dollars of place.

784
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: That black phone was three grand and we don't even

785
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: know who we paid. We paid some.

786
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: So I gave I give him my house number, right,

787
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: and we did make plans for him to come to

788
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: Stack now, so I tell him, yo, meet me at

789
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: the bus station. Porter Thory. Now I go to Porto Thory. Now,

790
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: mind you, I meet him this one. I don't know

791
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 4: what he looked like. So I'm at the port authority

792
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: waiting for him. He has to know what I look like.

793
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: At this time, you didn't have access to rappers. Me

794
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: standing at the port authority was Mayhem. So I'm there

795
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: for a while.

796
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: I left, I.

797
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: Get back to STAT. Now I'm going to crib. Anybody call,

798
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: I'm going back outside, coming back in.

799
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: Anybody call. If you was from the nineties, you knew

800
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: how I happened. You got girlfriends that way. People lost that.

801
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: So then I get him on the phone.

802
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, bro, you got to come to STAT

803
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: all and now because I was really now the ferry,

804
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: if you ever been to the ferry, same deal.

805
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: Now this difference is I'm from STAT now.

806
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: So it's even worse because everybody that I know is

807
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: coming up to me.

808
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: So I made the attempt to go right, I'm waiting.

809
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: Don't see him break out right, We don't link up,

810
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: and I say it was just miscommunication. He didn't have

811
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: no phone, he had to go to pay phones.

812
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He didn't know where he was.

813
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: Going, So it was just a thing of that. I

814
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: didn't leave you nowhere. I had great intentions for you,

815
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I wasn't trying to sign you,

816
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: like why I didn't have to get give you my.

817
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Number to even go through all of this.

818
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: So I thought he had talent and I was trying

819
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: to give him. And I couldn't do nothing for him

820
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: really anyway but bring him to see Rizzut or bring

821
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: them the Sea r Ince and.

822
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Maybe they can give him a beat. Other than that,

823
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to be no manager. I wasn't trying

824
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: to be a right now, we're moved.

825
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: Two years later after that, his cash actually makes it right.

826
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: I don't still don't know he's the same person. So

827
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: I bumped into him at a party. So the part

828
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: that's cap that I was like, Yo, that's cap. I

829
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: never went up to no bouncer and say yo, that's

830
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 4: my cousin.

831
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: I don't even do that with the Klan.

832
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: The Klan can't say yo, I ever went to a

833
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: show that they didn't invite me to that knew I

834
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: was coming and be like, yo, tell him shots at

835
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: the back door never happened.

836
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: There's nobody in the game that could ever say I

837
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: did that.

838
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 4: So that's why I felt like, Yo, that's like making

839
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: it seem like you told the struggle, like I caught.

840
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: The vegas like, nah, then I seen you on you on.

841
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 4: And I try to use you as my cousin. That's

842
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: what was cap so that ain't happening.

843
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: Was we at a party Deak and we go there

844
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: he said, Yo, it's me. I said, oh, yo, congratulations.

845
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You did that boom boom boom.

846
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: But that's the truth of it, and the same thing

847
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: I spoke to Cast right, So what ended up happening

848
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: through our whole Melee, I made my video on the

849
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: Instagram and say, yo, so what ended up happening.

850
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: It's a small world.

851
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: One of my old g's, the Big a Ka Bear,

852
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: did a lot of time in the State Is and

853
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: DJ Finesse Rock Rough Riders and Mathematics Rough Riders, the

854
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 4: ol g's they know each other, so they caught wind

855
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 4: of it and said, nah, this can't go down.

856
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: Let's get them on the phone.

857
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: So me, Cast and all of them was on the

858
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: phone and I told him like I told Cash right

859
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 4: right there, I told him the same situation. Yo, bro,

860
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: I had nothing but great intentions for you. You know

861
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But who's this bouncer that told you

862
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: that I'm your cousin?

863
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: Right?

864
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

865
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't know him? So how you gonna say that? Right?

866
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: How you gonna say that when we can't even verify that?

867
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: It made me look like yo ha haasha. When you

868
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: was on you, you shit it on him. And then

869
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: when he was on you was trying to say he

870
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: was your cousin. Da ain't happening. So I did tell him.

871
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: I said, Yo, I'm gonna speak to peace when I

872
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: get up there with Bleak, I'm gonna tell him. And also,

873
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: if you felt that way when I came home, I

874
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: can show you the d MS Welcome home Bull and

875
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: you have my number. If you felt I left you

876
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: like that, why didn't you say that on the phone?

877
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: And I would have told you that my piece didn't

878
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: That was the only thing. And he said, to his defense,

879
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: he said, yo, I didn't think of it. It was

880
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: that big of an issue. I didn't hold no malage

881
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: towards you. But I was just telling the story and respectfully,

882
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 4: and and actually what was great about it, we got

883
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: a banging record. I'm gonna let you hear it. You

884
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 4: got a record, call what's up? And and and yo,

885
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: listen man, it worked out for It worked out.

886
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: For cast my Dog Man.

887
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: You know, like he's a bull, he's a beast on

888
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: his beast my g you know what I mean, all

889
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: them Philly niggas, man, I fuck with all of them,

890
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: cast my Dog. So that's why when we spoke, I'm like, yo, Shot,

891
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: he ain't shit on you because I because I'm like yo,

892
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: I was.

893
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: Like, yo, doing this sh it and Shot he said

894
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: listen and listen.

895
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: That told me.

896
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: That told me a lot about your character. That I

897
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: got to tell you to your face. That I respect

898
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: is that you didn't have to give me this this space.

899
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: You could have felt like you we.

900
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: Was going at each other on the internet.

901
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: But Yo, this is a game we play. We already

902
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: not that there's a lot of people that's lame.

903
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: So I say, yo, you know what. And for the

904
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: people out there that probably gonna try to post old interviews,

905
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: I love that because I always say, yo, you always

906
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: did a great job on this ship. And I never,

907
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: I never, you know, say anything that we never said

908
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: to each other.

909
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: That's a fact, you know, like we've always been locked

910
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: in since my nigga we've been about fourteen fifteen years old,

911
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: bro like. And that's the thing people didn't see back

912
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: then was no social media, was no Mindspace, no Instagram,

913
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: no Facebook. You had to be outside. So when Ca

914
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: has told the story like, yo, you took the boat

915
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: to start dowaling it, niggas ain't answer. It was like, yeah,

916
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: they was in the middle of nowhere, because you know

917
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: when you get off that if you don't know about

918
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: the dollar beds.

919
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: Ghost. I wasn't even thinking that. For once, we couldn't

920
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: link up. I was outside.

921
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: It was no, we didn't kill in the house. So

922
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: even back in fact, I was doing too much.

923
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: And then back then my nigga being link that's the.

924
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: And this is the part, just the part that was

925
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: they said method, man, he went somewhere with methody.

926
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: Why would anybody from my crib tell you who I

927
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: left with? And they don't know you. They're not gonna

928
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: sit there and go, yo, he left with nothing.

929
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: Man.

930
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna be like, you know, back in the days, hello,

931
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: he's not here.

932
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: Click.

933
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: You didn't get nothing more than he's not here. Click click, Yo,

934
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: my mom's banged doing rest in peace. Jam Master Jay

935
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: ad Puff banged on them. Thought they was lying, called

936
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: the crib like what you ain't man? Click Come tell

937
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: me yo, that was just somethigga.

938
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 4: Damn the days of the jerky boy jerky boys would

939
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: call you, people would prank you like they was jerky boys.

940
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: Just a fact, My g like you put in so

941
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: much work, historic and the legend and my eyes had

942
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: always been a real one from the ground up and

943
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: never changed you from nineteen ninety five ninety four when

944
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: I met you to today, you always been the same one.

945
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: You standing on minute niggas say something shot on your line. Nigga,

946
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: come on bro yo, like yo, So I respect that

947
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: because a lot of niggas be acting like, yeah, I

948
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: don't fuck with something no more in me. You was

949
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: coming on this platform regardless if calv that she happened

950
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: with Cassidy, if that she happened with me and you, Bro,

951
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: I don't erase chapters in my book, and you a

952
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: major chapter in my book, not only meeting you as

953
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: the first nigga being on and inspiring me like nigga,

954
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: I could do it. But when Jay told me the

955
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: old my nigga. You know that was supposed to be

956
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: for Homie. If Homie didn't dub me.

957
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: That's that's a conversation. I show it to him.

958
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: I want to see this. I never dubbed you. Listen.

959
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: I would like to know who's saying, yo, that I.

960
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: Dubbed you, because I'll be doing on this.

961
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Motherfucker ain't that way.

962
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's always for the for the later, well, you

963
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: don't know where they could present, you know. I can

964
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: also understand feeling dubbed, right, So he might have felt

965
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: there could have been things he could have had me

966
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: in mind for later and been like, oh, this nigga

967
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: dumbed me.

968
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: When I never even got it. I never even got

969
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: the core. I never even got that.

970
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: And that's how it was, man.

971
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: That's why because you and me a project nigga through

972
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: a project nigga through a project, they'll be like, yeah,

973
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: I fuck with son, I represent them and he ain't

974
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: got no lines.

975
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 4: Or or if they didn't benefit from it directly, they

976
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't make it happen, That's what I'm saying.

977
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: And Jay wasn't J, so people might have felt he.

978
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: Was J d J hyphen jay Z there. He wasn't

979
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: jigger hole none of that.

980
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Back, But I was.

981
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: I was.

982
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: I was, Honestly, it was a proud moment.

983
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: My dude went because I ordered the book because I

984
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: was ordering it as a fan, and then I turn

985
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: it and I'm reading, I'm like what what?

986
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: What? Was like? What the fuck on?

987
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: But it also was it also let me know the

988
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: mark that I made. And I'm like, if the greatest rapper,

989
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: if not the greatest, one of the greatest rappers.

990
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: Viewed me in that light, then I am that nigga

991
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 3: g and you are.

992
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: My nigga one hundred percent. Man. So when people say

993
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: the name Shahing, what you want them to remember first?

994
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: Oh man, what I wanted tom remember is that I

995
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 4: would hope that with all my success and everything that

996
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: I took, I took my people with me.

997
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

998
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: I never left you know what I'm saying. I never

999
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: left nobody alone. I never not answered my phone for

1000
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 4: the dudes in jail I made. I visited everybody I could.

1001
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: I didn't get it in return, you know what I'm saying,

1002
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: a lot of things that I did, but it's not

1003
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: it wasn't really for that because I didn't do it

1004
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: for that. I would just like I would just like

1005
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: people to know that. You know, again, nobody's zimpt for mistakes.

1006
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 4: And I corrected my errors, you know what I'm saying.

1007
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: That's all I strived to do is correct my errors

1008
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 4: and be better than I was yesterday today, I mean,

1009
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: be better today than I was yesterday, and all factors,

1010
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And with successors, right. So

1011
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: it's like people view success in a lot of ways,

1012
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I always tell people

1013
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: like yo, I wasn't really coming home competing with the

1014
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: rap game. I was competing with my dudes that was

1015
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: left in the system. And when I got out on parole,

1016
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: a max out on parole, I did good.

1017
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm a married man, you

1018
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. The owner. You know what I'm saying.

1019
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: My children is successful.

1020
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: My sons just top their top influencers right now, millionaires.

1021
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: Shout out to Capri and Kane.

1022
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: And my boys young lost the young gods man.

1023
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1024
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: Me my wife got a jewelry business bonded by Brazen Beauties.

1025
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So we out doing our thing.

1026
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. My brother Sean, Sean breed

1027
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 4: and beating the odds. You know what I'm saying, They

1028
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 4: doing anything, And our whole team is just moving man,

1029
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: big Malague And it's a small unit, you know what

1030
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying, within within a bigger unit.

1031
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And that's it.

1032
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: Man, That's all you need is a small circle. Man.

1033
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Long as you're all moving on one accord, man, you

1034
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: can get you can move mountains one hundred percent. Man.

1035
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: So what does redemption mean to you personally? With all

1036
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: that being said, I know it gotta mean something.

1037
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: Oh man, It's it's just it's a reminder, right, It's

1038
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: a reminder that if you don't stay on the course,

1039
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 4: you'll be telling the same story again.

1040
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: So about you know, I'm recovering again. It's like I

1041
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: just got out saying this, right, So I strive on that.

1042
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: Am I perfect?

1043
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: Not not at all? You know what I'm saying. We

1044
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 4: all stumble, we all do things. But I'm I live

1045
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: my life purposeful.

1046
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I'm saying.

1047
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm not the guy that's just going places without a purpose.

1048
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, So if I don't get

1049
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: personally invited, chance as all you won't see me. Because

1050
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: if I'm not invited, I could be treated anyway, and

1051
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: I don't like to be treated anyway. I like to

1052
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: be invited. So I know, hey, you come and you

1053
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 4: expect me, and I expect to be treated a certain way.

1054
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: So that's it, you know what I'm saying. And I

1055
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: love congestions, So somebody don't give me a congestion. It's like, yo,

1056
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: when people really look for you for the best interest

1057
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: of you, like me. You know, I love ball, so

1058
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: you always played ball. I always was a point guard

1059
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 4: at heart. So anybody that I play, that's on my team.

1060
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: When I got the ball, I'm looking at the floor

1061
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: to give it to go, get back, open score, get

1062
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: back on defense. You know what I'm saying that some

1063
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: people don't get that. Some people will see you with

1064
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: holes in your sneakers and because you don't ask them,

1065
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: and they don't want to feel big willy for you.

1066
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: Asking them that you don't need it.

1067
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: I'm the type if I see you got holes in

1068
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: your sneakers, we just say take a spin with me.

1069
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: We're just gonna be in the mall, I'm gonna be

1070
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: buying some Say, yo, cop something. If I go to

1071
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: your crib, you don't got nothing to friend, I'm not

1072
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: gonna say dance ball mass nigga, ain't got no food.

1073
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go like, I gotta get something, like, Yo.

1074
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Grab some shit for you.

1075
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: No nigga, nigga grab.

1076
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 3: That because at the end of the day, you are man.

1077
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: And I just wish sometimes that people that's in the

1078
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: position that could just maybe have a little more empathy

1079
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: and do good kindness to people and pay it for it.

1080
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: Because this is funny story, right, How I learned about

1081
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: paying it for it.

1082
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: It was that dunkin Donuts in the morning. What going

1083
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: to get my dunkin donus? So I tell him what

1084
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: I want to do.

1085
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: Let me get large coffee such and such. Let me

1086
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: get a pup cup for my dog. Right.

1087
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: So the lady goes, oh, don't worry about it. The

1088
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: guy in the front paid for you.

1089
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: I said, pay for me, ain't yo, He's like, no,

1090
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: paying for it, And I was like, oh snap. So

1091
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: that's when I did it.

1092
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: Yo, the person behind me pay for them and tell

1093
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: them to pay it for it. And I learned that

1094
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: You never know what somebody is going through that day,

1095
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 4: and somebody could have had to made the decision. Am

1096
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: I gonna get this coffee in the bagel this morning

1097
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: and skip once and go through work all hungry? I

1098
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: just helped them out so now they could get their

1099
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 4: core fee or whatever and they can get lunch.

1100
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: So I just like to pay things for it.

1101
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: No, that's that's the right thing.

1102
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: Man.

1103
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I got my partner fred Cee in Vegas. Man, he

1104
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: always said, you're bleak one hand watched the other man.

1105
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: Anybody trying to make it. Some of these niggas, some niggas.

1106
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: Some of these niggas need that extra pound, man, they'll

1107
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: just give them the five, give them that extra pound.

1108
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: So we we.

1109
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: Definitely live by that over here. Man. So what's the

1110
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: next chapter for my dog? What's what's next that people

1111
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: gonna see from shot?

1112
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: What was next? Is the Rugged Shower story stage play?

1113
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: Also the memoir that's gonna come with the album because

1114
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: I don't want to play the DSV game, so it's

1115
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: gonna be like the old books with the library card, and.

1116
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: You know, I'm taking it.

1117
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: I'm taking it to the street because working with my

1118
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: wife during retail I learned retail and I'm like, yo,

1119
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm playing a different game with this, and it's about.

1120
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: Product and sell ash prays.

1121
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: And put my on the ash move my music and

1122
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: allocate the price of my music within the ashtray and

1123
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 4: sell ashtrays and still make more money off my music

1124
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 4: than dudes is making them streaming.

1125
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: So it's just learning.

1126
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: Process and and doing things with with products and you

1127
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 4: know which brings that up.

1128
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: Shout out, I got I got some gifts for you.

1129
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: Shout out. And Municipal.

1130
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: War Burg is war my dog.

1131
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: This is the rugged Road to Recovery.

1132
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: I do man that dope. Man, I love what you're doing.

1133
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: Rugged Roll to recovery and m that's dope. It's a

1134
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: couple of sizes.

1135
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: Mean, appreciate you and all that.

1136
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: So y'all make sure you're tapping and support you know

1137
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: what I'm you know.

1138
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: Also, also that's my guy man.

1139
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: Shout out. The Vans. Vans also supports.

1140
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: The Rugged ros my initiatives, Cold Headwear and Redo all

1141
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: all the all the you know, the businesses that support

1142
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: me and the initiatives that allows me to go into

1143
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 4: these prisons that you know, that rugged road of recoveries

1144
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 4: in a few states or San Diego, Los Angeles, Boston,

1145
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 4: New Jersey, and New York winning five states right now.

1146
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: So city programs out there that want to partner holler

1147
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: at me. And in doing so, I had to check

1148
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: myself any right, because you want to do and help everybody.

1149
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 4: Then I had to look at my own backyard and say, yo, damn,

1150
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: I still got families struggling and things like that. So

1151
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: now rugged road of recovery is now going into more

1152
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: of being a grant, applying grants for people that doesn't work,

1153
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: so small grants to help mothers with daycare. You know

1154
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like it might be a mother that's

1155
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 4: struggling for childcare for the week. You know, it don't

1156
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: have to be much. I go through daycares. Here's little

1157
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: two hundred. You'll give it to a woman that's struggling,

1158
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 4: that's behind all our things, and just I just try

1159
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: to help out. And you know what I'm saying, just

1160
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: take from what I make from music or whatever, and

1161
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: just just pay it for it.

1162
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: That's a fact, man, That's a blessing, my g That's

1163
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: why you triple platinum. Man. You ain't ain't about record

1164
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: sales it's the impact you leaving, the mark you make

1165
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: in the world. Man, you made your mark and you

1166
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: definitely left an impact on the world. And I had

1167
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: to bring you here to give you your feelings because

1168
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: you the fucking rugged child. Now the man child, my

1169
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: nigga first to do it. Man, Let's give some respect,

1170
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: like you know, Man Shahim in the fucking building, staple

1171
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: Tan legend, staten allan legend, rap legend. Here, young boys

1172
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: better pay some respect and do your history. Man.

1173
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Just trust me that diddy Bob likely came from a dog.

1174
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: You already enough, we're here.

1175
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1176
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: Rock solid, That's right, brother, always man, appreciate you for

1177
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: pulling up man.

1178
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's rock solid, my guys,

1179
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Stay solid.

1180
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: Yees. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit i heeart

1181
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: Audio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your

1182
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: favorite shows app, and you can follow me on any

1183
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: social media platform under the name Memphis Bleach.

1184
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud in, flag him