1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A five year old little 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: boy is riding his bike on a Sunday afternoon around 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I guess it was about five thirty in the afternoon. 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's gone to church, they've had lunch. You know that 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: feeling on a Sunday afternoon when everything is still and 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: quiet until the sound of gunshots ring out. Little Cannon 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: is dead. Why, according to reports, because he veered his 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: bike into the neighbor's yard. I want justice. I'm Nancy Grace. 9 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Me and All Star panel 10 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: joining me. Brian m'sw r A LTV. Doctor Katherine Maloney, 11 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Erie County Medical Examiner's Office in Buffalo, 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: founder of the Cold Case Research Institute, Ballistics forensics expert 13 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum, psychoanalysts joining me out of Beverly Hills, doctor 14 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, New York criminal defense attorney Randy Zellin. But 15 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: first to special guests, the mother and father of little 16 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Cannon with me, Bonnie Wadell and Austin Hannett. Bonnie first 17 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: to you. You know, every morning when I wake up, 18 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: the first thing I think about, it's what I can 19 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: do for my twins, who are twelve. I race up 20 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: every morning to get their breakfast, get them packed for school, 21 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and all day long they're on my mind. What happened 22 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: the day five year old Cannon was shot. He was 23 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: visiting his dad's house. I was at home with my 24 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: boyfriend and my other child and we had less to 25 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: go to the dump and we dropped things off. I 26 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: had gotten a text message from his dadies fiance saying 27 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: that Cannon had been shot. I had gotten the numerous 28 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: phone calls that day of her calling me. I finally 29 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: caught back and all I hear is something I'll never forget, 30 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: and that is his dad just screaming in the background 31 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: and his girlfriend or fiance, sorry, just screaming in the background. 32 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I couldn't even think at that time. 33 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: My mind just went blank. I'm like, this isn't real. 34 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: Just can't be real, oh'bonnie. That feeling, that feeling, especially 35 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: when you're away, you're not right there on the scene, 36 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the helplessness that they're trying to grapple with what shot 37 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and you're not there and you don't know what's happening, 38 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: and all that screaming. I can't imagine that phone call. 39 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with Cannon's mom before I go 40 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: to his dad joining us, who is at the scene. 41 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at w r A LTV. 42 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Everybody there just love Cannon. He lit up the room. 43 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Austin Hennock was inside his home on Archer's Road as 44 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Cannon played outside for his sisters. He says his fiance 45 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: stepped inside for a moment. As soon as he shuts 46 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: the door, I hear a loud gunshot that found bug. 47 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: He ran into the front yard and saw Cannon falling 48 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: off his bite. That it was something at Balmore Theory 49 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: bong with youth, and I just scooped him up in 50 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: my arms and held him and held him and I screamed, 51 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: and somebody helped me play him. Please help me, say 52 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: my son, God, say my son. Please. A neighbor ran 53 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: over with an emergency medical back. His fiance called with me. 54 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: Now is Cannon's dad, Austin. Austin. I'm just so grateful 55 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: to you and Bonnie being here today. I can remember 56 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: for so many days, weeks, months after my fiance was murder, 57 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't even think straight. I felt like I couldn't 58 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: put two words together. It just seems so unreal. Every 59 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: day feel I waken up to another to another dream. 60 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: None of this seem dream. I can't tell you how 61 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: sorry I am and how much we have prayed for you, 62 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: your family. Cannon. You know a lot of people think, 63 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Austin and Bonnie, it can't happen to me. I used 64 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: to think that too, until it did happen. You guys 65 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: had everything set up for Cannon. He was supposed to 66 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: start kindergarten this week. He loved his body. Yes, he 67 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: was out playing with cousins outside on a Sunday afternoon 68 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: in broad dawn, like five to thirty one. Nothing can 69 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: go wrong, and all of a sudden, gunshots rang out. 70 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: To Austin, please explain to me what happened that day. 71 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain what happened to day, 72 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: because it all what happened that day, because it all 73 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: happened so fast. Other than it was just like any 74 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: other Sunday. But my family, we went to church, we 75 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: followed up with lunch and came home and relax. Children 76 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: wanted to go outside and play and we're just doing 77 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: what they loved. And Austin, that is so scary to 78 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: me because that is exactly what families, including mine do 79 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: all across the country. You get your children dressed up 80 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: or not, and get their hair in place, and get 81 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: them in the car and get them to church and 82 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: come out and they're hungry, and you either cook or 83 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you We like to go out for lunch Sunday after 84 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: church and then we get home. And there's something about 85 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoons. It seems like it's the most peaceful time 86 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: of the whole week. I don't know why. Maybe we're 87 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: not at work, but that idealic time in the afternoon, 88 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: So you're at home, you've gotten back from having lunch. 89 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: What happens then, well, might Beyonce went into the bedroom 90 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: to take a nap. Man my mother are dropped off 91 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: Jaden now which is Cannon's aunt to make the correction, 92 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: my cousin and they all played inside as my fiance 93 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: napped into bedroom. I ended up drifting off to sleep 94 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: on the couch of the whale, and around five o'clock 95 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I woke up and meant to check on Nikki, my fiance, 96 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and we both came out of the bedroom and were 97 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: bombarded with the children wanting to go outside. To play. 98 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: So she volunteers to go out out and I with 99 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: them and supervise and play with them and beat with 100 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: them while they're playing outside. And it wasn't twenty minutes 101 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: thirty minutes later. This evil person is something that we 102 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: can't erect, that we can't take back. So she Nikki says, 103 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: she'll go out with the children. And it's Cannon and 104 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: what other children are playing with him? His sisters Crawley 105 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: and Avam and my little sister Jaden, and they're outside 106 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: and Nikki comes in very quickly. Been outside for a 107 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: little while. Nikki comes in, I think to go to 108 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the bathroom, and which then what happens. She actually came 109 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: in to just get some drinking water and say some 110 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: things to me, and and she was just talking to 111 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: me in general about a kid. And then she walked 112 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: back outside. And as soon as she walked back outside, 113 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I heard one single gunshot. I could tell that it 114 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: was close, and I could tell it it was close. 115 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: And as soon as I heard it, before I even 116 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: made it out my front door, I knew something was wrong. 117 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: I shot it in my heart as soon as I 118 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: heard that that part of me had just been taken 119 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: away from so I had to run outside and find 120 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: my son laying on the ground, pleasing for med crime 121 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace, guys joining me right now. The 122 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: mother and father a five year old Cannon Hnnet. He's 123 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: just beautiful. I don't understand how a five year old 124 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: little boy is shot dead for what? Riding his bike 125 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: veering into the neighbor's yard. Guys take a lesson to 126 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: our friends at w R A l With a clear 127 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: view of five year olds Cannon Hnnen and his siblings 128 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: playing outside, Doris La Brette could not believe what she saw. 129 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: My first reaction was he's playing with the kids, and 130 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: when I saw him, just ride right up to him 131 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and put the gun right on his head and shot him, 132 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: She says. Twenty five year old Darius Sessum's shot five 133 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: year old Cannon while he was playing outside. It's almost 134 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: like seeing a movie and then almost a dawns to you. 135 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: It's not a movie. Labrene says. Sessam's parents have lived 136 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: on Archer's Road in Wilson around twenty eight years, and 137 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: she's seen Sessim's over at Cannon's father's house before. There 138 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: was no yelling, screaming, Kennon's siblings watched their five year 139 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: old brother get shot. Labren says his dad, Austin, was 140 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: close by. Austin flew out of that house and screaming 141 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and picked him up. They'll never get over it now. 142 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Everyone is left asking the same question. Why would that 143 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: make him go over and kill the kid? Is what 144 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: I want to know. Joining me and I'll star panel 145 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: to break it down and put it back together again. 146 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: And I want to thank you for being with us 147 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: at this horrible time for Cannon's mother and father. They 148 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: are joining us to speak out about what happened. I'm 149 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: want to go back to Austin Hnnett. This is Cannon's dad. Today, 150 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: Cannon would have started kindergarten instead. You're here. You said, 151 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: it feels like a nightmare, a bad dream every day 152 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: when you wake up in the morning. What do you think? 153 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think. I don't know what 154 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to think going I wake up in the morning. How 155 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: little boys said, have been going to school to seek 156 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: is all I meant. We didn't want any of this. 157 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: We just wanted to life that we at Doctor Bethany Marshall, 158 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: renowned psycho Alice joining me out of Beverly Hills at 159 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. I remember that you wake 160 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: up in the morning and for maybe two or three 161 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: second was it a dream you don't remember, and then 162 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: it hits you like a ton of bricks all over again. 163 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: What are those two or three seconds where everything is 164 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: as Austin Hannett said, the life they had, the way 165 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: it used to be. Why does your mind do that? 166 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: Because Austin, Nikki, Cannon's mother and father had one reality 167 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: that they lived with for five years. A beautiful little 168 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: baby boy was born, They raised him, He played with 169 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: his siblings, He was in a peaceful neighborhood. They had 170 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: the rhythms of life in such a beautiful way, going 171 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: to church on a Sunday afternoon, playing in the backyard. 172 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you heard with Nikki going 173 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: out to supervise the kids. When she came back in, 174 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't to do something for herself. It was to 175 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: talk with Cannon's dad out how the kids were doing. 176 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this family's life was revolved around the kids. 177 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: They were very devoted. So that's a long time to 178 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: live with one reality and then with one gunshot, the 179 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: whole reality changes to this little boy not being there anymore. 180 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: Our brains are not designed to wrap our mind around 181 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: these so quickly, so we wake up in the morning 182 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: and we go back to how things were. You know, 183 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: the definition of trauma, Nancy is a sudden, unanticipated change 184 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: for which there's no prior learning. So this was sudden, unanticipated, 185 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: and there's no way to learn how to cope with 186 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: something like this. Just when you're in it. You're in it. 187 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: And it takes a long time to get over something 188 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: like this in terms of the trauma. But they'll never 189 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: get over the loss of the sun. I mean, every 190 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: time there's an anniversary or graduation or a time where 191 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: the cannon would have gone on to the next stage, 192 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: they're going to be thinking about him. He'll be in 193 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: their minds. I can't even see a little boy without 194 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: thinking of my son, Austin. When you've never been forty 195 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: eight hours without him, You've never been forty eight hours 196 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: without your son? Is that what you said, Bonnie, That 197 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: is the longest I've ever been away from him. It's 198 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: forty eight hours, that's it. Forty eight hours. It's the 199 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: longest I've ever been away from him. And this I 200 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: can't even explain missing him is there's no words, Finny. 201 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: When you first wake up in the morning, when does 202 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: it hit you what happened? I barely sleep, so it 203 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: hits me all day, all night. It doesn't stop. That 204 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: was my first baby boy. He was the biggest mama's boy, 205 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: and he always needed me. He always depending on me. 206 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're just making me think of my 207 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: son so much. John David, who is the sweetest thing. 208 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: He's way taller than me now, he's almost six feet 209 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: it's only twelve. He's just like that. I mean, I 210 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: can hear him right now. Mom, Mom, Mom, yoop constantly 211 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: all day, Mama, Mama, momma. Yes, I missed that little voice. 212 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I would get anything to hear it again. Austin, you 213 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: said you heard a gunshot and you knew. You know, 214 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: that's funny. You said that funny odd because I remember 215 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: when I was walking to work at the library and 216 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I got a message to call my fiance's family. I 217 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: knew immediately. I knew Keith was dead. I don't know 218 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: how I knew that. You said you heard a gunshot. 219 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Tell me what happened when you bound it out of 220 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: that door. That front door. I didn't know what the thing. 221 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like what was happening was really real. 222 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, as soon as I heard that shot, 223 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I felt a piece of my heart leave me. And 224 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: as I as I got to Cannon and stooped him up, 225 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: I was looking at Darius full of rage, and I 226 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: just I thought some unthankaful things myself probably in that time. 227 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: But all I could do was be there with Cannon 228 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: and pray over him and hold him and let him 229 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: know that his daddy was there. Hey, he was unresponsive, obviously, 230 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: but I have to believe that he felt that he 231 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: was in his dad's dogs and that I was praying him. 232 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Did he show any signs of being conscious when you 233 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: got there. I'd rather not answer that question, Okay, I'm 234 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: just trying to think about what you went through and 235 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: everything happening around you. Joining me right now? Is Brian 236 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: MEM's w r A LTV Brian that day, that day 237 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: that Cannon Hinnett is shot. What do we know about 238 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: how long it took police and EMTs to get there? Now, 239 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: they got there right away, And as a matter of fact, 240 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Austin mentioned that he was as he was holding his 241 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: son there was a neighbor who came running in Austin mathis. 242 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: But a neighbor came running with an EMT bag emergency 243 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: medical bag and started helping the little boy and telling 244 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Austin what to do. But police and paramedics got there, 245 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: as this is an area not exactly in the center 246 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: of town. It's sort of an outlying neighborhood of Wilson. 247 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Wilson is a sizeable community, but they got there quickly. However, 248 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: the suspect drove off and for the night we didn't 249 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: know where he was and there was no he was 250 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: at large. I know exactly what you're talking about with me. 251 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Brian MEM's w r A LTV. I grew up in 252 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: an extremely rural area, which is great for growing up. 253 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: You're not around traffic or drinking or drugs or a 254 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: lot of that, but your way out there. And it's 255 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: my understanding that Wilson is about thirty nine forty miles 256 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: from Raleigh, So yeah, yeah, it's out there in a 257 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: rural area and it takes cops or sheriffs or e 258 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: mts a minute to get there. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, 259 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: we are talking about the death of a beautiful boy, 260 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Cannon Hennett, and I gotta tell you the first time 261 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: I heard his mother's voice speaking to me on the phone, 262 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: the heartbreak. It was just raw right under the voice, 263 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: that felt like at any moment her voice was just 264 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: gonna crack in half. I want to talk about what 265 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: exactly happened. Take a listen to Brian M's w r 266 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: A LTV. A five year old boy five is the 267 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: very face of innocence. They were just playing in the 268 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: yard like any other day. Cannon had gone to church 269 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Sunday morning with his dad and sister. Everybody just loved Cannon, 270 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: and Cannon just loved riding his bike as he was 271 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: doing Sunday evening in his dad's front yard on Archer's Road, 272 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: his two sisters there with him. His dad, Austin Hennett, 273 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: was inside when he heard the gun shot. I just 274 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: scooped him up in my arms and held him and 275 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: held him and I screamed and Mighty helped me play him. 276 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Please help me say my thun, God, say my thunb Please. 277 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Hennett looked up and saw his neighbor in the yard 278 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: next door, gun in hand, hacing frantic. I was looking 279 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: at him as I was picking up cannon and I 280 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: was so flull arrayed, but I couldn't leave my thun thide. 281 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be with my thun Hennett's fiance 282 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: called ninety one part. He says his neighbor, twenty five 283 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: year old Darius Sessems, who lived with his parents, soon 284 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: drove away. Police arrested Sessems the next day, charging him 285 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: with murder. All right, gee, Randy Zellen, renowned New York 286 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney. You can find him at Randy Zelen 287 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: Law dot com. Randy. When a defendant is seen pulling 288 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the trigger, remember Kennon was outside with his cousins, and 289 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: then when dad Austin ran out, he actually sees the 290 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: defendant Sessims, standing there with the gun. But here's my question. 291 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: He then gets in the car and takes off. So 292 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this is not a who done it? The only way 293 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: to go now is for the defendant to claim mental defect. 294 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to work, Zellen, because 295 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: when you flee evidence a flight, when you leave the 296 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: scene and you hide out twenty five miles away in 297 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Goldsborough and the cops have to come looking for you, 298 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: that tells me you knew what you did was wrong, 299 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: and isn't it true? Randy Zellen that under our jurisprudence system, 300 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: it's the old McNaughton test brought over from great of 301 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: the incident. That is the test. And if he knew 302 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: enough to get in a car and take off, then 303 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: he knew what he did was wrong. How can you 304 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: possibly defend that, Randy? Well, first of all, let me 305 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: say how difficult it is to speak like a lawyer 306 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: at a time like this being a parent myself. But 307 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: this is what I am here to do, and I 308 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: will do the best that I can to compart mentalize 309 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: my emotions and the loss that I feel for these parents. 310 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: But from purely illegal perspective, Remember here North Carolina is 311 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: a death penalty state. So the issue of the defendant's 312 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: state of mind and his ability to know the difference 313 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: between right and wrong and to appreciate the nature and 314 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: consequences of his action not only become relevant from the 315 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: standpoint of guilt or lack of guilt, because remember insanity 316 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: is a defense, you also have from a death penalty standpoint. 317 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: If the defendant would be were to be convicted, you 318 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: then have the issue of not only the purely legal 319 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: definition of insanity. But keep in mind that insanity is 320 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: not only exemption an exemption from the death penalty. It's 321 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: also in an instance where it's not quite insanity, but 322 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: the defendant is still suffering from a severe disorder or 323 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: defect which significantly impaired, not necessarily took away, but significantly 324 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: significantly impaired his capacity to appreciate the difference between right 325 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: and wrong and the nature and consequences of his action. 326 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: But look, Nancy, you are right, and I will tell 327 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: you when I agree with you. It is difficult when 328 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: you have what we call consciousness of guilt, which is 329 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: you do something bad and then you leave lutely know 330 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: what you just did was wrong. Now you know why 331 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Randy Zellen wins so many cases. You just heard it. 332 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: But I see straight through that right now, and I 333 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: want Austin and Bonnie to go ahead and get ready. 334 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: Because while defense attorneys may seem really nice and regular 335 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: life if you see one at the grocery store or 336 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: at church or wherever you might run into one, but 337 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: when they get in the courtroom, they do what they 338 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: think they got to do, and they say things just 339 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: like that. So get ready. Whether you agree with it 340 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: or not, that's what they're going to say. I want 341 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: to go to the founder of the Cold Case Research 342 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: Institute and forensics expert, Cheryl McCollum. Cheryl, please come on. 343 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: Premeditation can be formed in the moment it takes you 344 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: to go get a gun, point it and pull the trigger. 345 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: Hold on. Cheryl to doctor Kathery Maloney, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Buffalo. 346 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: Doctor Maloney, I have been told that was this was 347 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: at point blank range. How do we know that? Well, 348 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: if you have a gunshot wound that is at point 349 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: blank range, there are different residues that may be left 350 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: on the body that can give you information about how 351 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: far away the end of the barrel of the gun 352 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: was from the skin. So sometimes you might see gunpowder 353 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: or marks left by the gunpowder that will let you 354 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: know that the end of the gun was closer to 355 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: the person's body exactly, Doctor Maloney. Stifling stippling at three 356 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: feet or less, starry six inches or less, there will 357 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: be gunshot powder residue as fine as a baby powder 358 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: stip playing it as when there are actual burn marks 359 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: left on the victim from the weapon being so close 360 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: to the skin, is it Trey Brian m s R 361 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: A L. I have read that this was at very 362 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: close range. It was, It wasn't close range. It was 363 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: essentially point blank at his head. It's hard to say 364 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: that when discussing a five year old boy, but it 365 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: was a close range and the suspects began pacing frantically 366 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: around the yard, the yard of his home, according to police. 367 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't care Brian MAM's w R. Al that may 368 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: be true, But isn't it true? Randy Zellen that under 369 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: the law and I quote, one may immediately regret the deed, 370 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: but that does not negate premeditation or intent to do 371 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: the act. I don't care how sorry he is. That 372 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me, and the law agrees, does it not, Zellen? 373 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: From the standpoint of guilt or lack of guilt and insanity, 374 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that moment, It is that moment in 375 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: time when you pull the truth. Do you appreciate the 376 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: nature and consequences of what you're doing? Do you know 377 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the difference between right and wrong? If you lose your 378 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: mind after that, it doesn't matter if you come too 379 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: after that and suddenly you are incredibly remorseful that may 380 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: be what keeps you from getting phenobarbital pumped through your veins, 381 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: but it is not going to mitigate the question of premeditation. 382 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: In fact, that could also be viewed as consciousness of guilt. 383 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: Bonnie Wadel, who first contacted me, this is Cannon's mother. 384 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I want to apologize to you and Austin for discussing 385 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the facts and strategy. But all I can do right 386 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: now is figure out a way to try to help 387 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: get justice. And I'm sorry you're hearing all this not saying. 388 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: Is everybody's like, you know justice has been served, you 389 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: know they locked him up. Then yes, it might be 390 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: he was served, but this man is hammer. Until the 391 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: Judda drives that hammer, justice ain't served. I agree, Austin. 392 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: And this is not revenge. I'm not looking for revenge 393 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: on anybody. That's not what Lady justice is about. It 394 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: is about seeking justice and doing the right thing. I mean, Donnie, 395 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: it's bad. It's horrible to find out somebody you love 396 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: is just gone just like that. But a shooting at 397 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: point blank range, when he done this to my child, 398 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I just I couldn't believe it at first. Crime Stories 399 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace with me the parents of five year 400 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: old Kennon Henna, who's supposed to start kindergarten today. That's 401 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: not happening. This five year old little boy is gunned 402 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: down dead for what veering his trick into the neighbor's yard. 403 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: To you, Cheryl mccollin, forensics expert, Director, Cold Case Research Institute, 404 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: now you've heard all the facts. Way in, Nancy, this 405 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: was a straight up execution. This person walked toward that baby. 406 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: He never veered off, he never slowed down, He didn't 407 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: stop himself. He walked up to that child, pointed that 408 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: weapon directly at his head and fired at point blank range. 409 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: And point blank range basically means Jenny got to aim. 410 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: You're that close, you're gonna hit your target. And then 411 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: he panics and kind of pass back and forth, and 412 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: then he gets in a vehicle and flees that scene 413 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: because he knew good and well what he had done. 414 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: He absolutely lee knows right for wrong. He you know 415 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: that the evidence is going to be there that they 416 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: have to look for or like burn patterns, the star patterns. 417 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: He was that close, Nancy, He was that close to 418 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: that poor child. And again I want to echo what 419 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: everybody else has said to his parents that are with 420 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: us today. I am so sorry, but I'll tell you 421 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: something else. If Nancy Grace says you're a prosecutor, there's 422 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people talking about motive, 423 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: she would stand up and should tell that jury there 424 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: is no motive that I will very except there isn't. 425 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: And we keep wondering to you, Austin, why why why 426 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: b s Under the law of the state does not 427 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: have to prove motive. A prosecutor doesn't have to crawl 428 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: into the dark mind of a killer and figure out why, 429 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: what possible motive could there be to kill a five 430 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: year old little boy riding his bike in the front 431 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: yard had died? Austin Hannett, Austin and mom Bonnie widel 432 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: with me right now, Austin. There was no bad blood 433 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: between the neighbors. In fact, I understand the family of 434 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Darius Sessems had lived in the neighborhood twenty plus years, 435 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: and you guys had lived there, I guess close to 436 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: ten years. You had had him meighbors years for dinner, 437 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: no problem. In fact, you saw him in his car 438 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: I think the night before and said, hey, buddy, come over, 439 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: have a supper with us, and did he That's right, 440 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. He was sitting in his car. 441 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: He looked like he had a lot on his mind 442 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: and looked like he would just counting down. And we 443 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: were already cooking chicken on the grill for the kids 444 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: and ourselves, and there was extra. So I just told 445 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: him the Lord says, that loved the neighbor and that 446 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: was the kind thing to do. That was something that 447 00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: can I'm just trying to take all this in. Dairy 448 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: assesss was found about thirty to forty minutes away, hiding 449 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: out in a nearby town of Goldsboro. Now all of 450 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: this for you to get a mental image, is not 451 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: too far about it less than an hour from Raleigh. Now, 452 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: when you think of Raleigh, many people think of Andy 453 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: of Mayberry. Okay, remember they were always going to Raleigh. 454 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: And there's nothing more peaceful and calm and a happy 455 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: scenario than Andy of Mayberry. And that's what people think 456 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: of when we talk about that. That is not what 457 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: happened on that Sunday afternoon. To Bonnie Waddell, it's my understanding, Bonnie, 458 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: that the defendant's own family made a comment that the 459 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: defendant had been involved in drugs, not the family. Go ahead. 460 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say this, but I don't care. I 461 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: have seen people on drugs. I'm twenty five years old, 462 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm young. I've seen him all on drugs. Is no 463 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: amount of drug to be in your mind to kill 464 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: a child. You were not that high. That's exactly what 465 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: the law says. What you just voiced in your own way. 466 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: The voluntary use of drugs or alcohol is not a 467 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: defense under the law. Else everybody in the jail would 468 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: say right now, oh, I was high on pots, so 469 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: you know you can't hold me liable. In fact, under 470 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: the law, you have to be coma chose for drugs 471 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: or alcohol to be a defense. It is not a 472 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: defense to Austin Hennant. What is rubbing salt in the 473 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: wound is that you had reached out to the defendant 474 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: the night before to try to help him out, bring 475 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: him over to your home, had him at your table 476 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: for dinner. What did he show any animals, see any 477 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: anger toward cannon anything. Never. Never. He sat right on 478 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: my couch with me and we ate at the coffee 479 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: table while my fiance ate at the kitchen table. Would 480 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: offer the children never any issues. We finished our dinner 481 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: and walked outside, had a cigarette. He said thank you 482 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: and went on him by his night. What do you 483 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: make of comments that have reportedly come from the family 484 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: that he had used drugs. I don't care what he used. 485 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: What he did is unforgivable, unthinkable, and it can't be undone. 486 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: So now he's gonna suffer the consequences to the police. 487 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: It's end of the law. And that's just the bottom 488 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: line to Wendy Zellen. You hear the parents speaking out 489 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: and what should have been Cannon's first day at kindergarten. 490 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't care either. I agree with mom and dad. 491 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't care if he was high, if he wasn't high, 492 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't care. That's not going to be a defense 493 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: for what he did to Cannon. This is true, but 494 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: we must remember that we have to view the law dispassionately. 495 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: We have to look at the law, and as you know, Nancy, 496 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: when you are in front of a jury, sympathy is 497 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: not ever supposed to enter into the courtroom, even though 498 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: it does. But here where the drugs, or whatever impact 499 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: the drugs may have had on this defendant, may play 500 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: more of a role from a penalty perspective than from 501 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: a guilt or lack of guilt perspective. Keeping in mind 502 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: that the death penalty is the ultimate sanction, and before 503 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: the court is going to impose the death penalty upon 504 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: a defendant, putting aside the cost that is inherent. Oh 505 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, just stop, start with the money. 506 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: I want to go to Bonnie and Austin. Bonnie, what 507 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: is in your heart and in your mind right now? 508 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: This should have been his first day of kindergarten. I 509 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: woke up this morning and that's all I could think about. 510 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: It's my day he was supposed to start kindergarten. I'm 511 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what's in my mind right now. Any 512 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: better be in jail praying that they give him to destinerty. 513 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: That's what it's in my mind right now, Because as 514 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: a day's past, and the more I'm mourned the loss 515 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: of my son, the more the anger it was up 516 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: inside of me. So I'm believe it of that. Bonnie Austin, 517 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: I wish we could take away from you what you're 518 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: going through. Thank you. All we can do right now 519 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: is to pray for you and pray for Cannon and 520 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: God willing seek justice, we wait for the courts to act. 521 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story, signing of Goodbye Friend,