Speaker 1: Hey guys. This week on the group chat, we are
Speaker 1: getting pretty honest about what we want to see out
Speaker 1: of this team for the last three weeks. Just a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, they were down in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: had that Saints teams on the ropes. My question that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to see this team answer is
Speaker 1: it did that loss take it out of them? But
Speaker 1: before we get into that, it's time to embarrass a
Speaker 1: member of the group chat. Matt drops the line that
Speaker 1: I don't think could have been delivered any better in
Speaker 1: the moment, The line was, um, are we not going
Speaker 1: back to the hotel? It was more of a whisperer.
Speaker 1: We have those things and so much more. On this
Speaker 1: week's the group chat, You've been added to the group
Speaker 1: chat with your friends Caroline, can Max Sensen, and Will Brian.
Speaker 1: Here at the group chat, we're a family. We feel
Speaker 1: that right everyone here we agree we're a family. Faking
Speaker 1: the head. Yeah, we're a family here, and in a family,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to deal with family matters, which means
Speaker 1: embarrassing a member of the family. Normally, I feel like
Speaker 1: I do a good job of embarrassing myself with some segments,
Speaker 1: so I don't feel bad when I turned that embarrassment.
Speaker 1: I'm a member of the family. And today we have
Speaker 1: a great story about producer Matt. Yeah, not about me
Speaker 1: or Wills. It's definitely not about me. We have a
Speaker 1: great story anyone out there that has had something happened,
Speaker 1: maybe in the first year or the first moment of
Speaker 1: a job, and you just it just went wrong, everything
Speaker 1: went wrong. We have a moment like this for our dear,
Speaker 1: sweet producer Matt, who already has the microphone in front
Speaker 1: of his face so ready too. He can't defend himself,
Speaker 1: so I think, maybe just clean up the story. So
Speaker 1: here we go. We're in Atlanta. Everyone, We are on
Speaker 1: our way back from Atlanta, and this is Matt's first
Speaker 1: time traveling with the team, but he has been told
Speaker 1: about the procedures of this process. And one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things that maybe people don't understand and don't know
Speaker 1: is that immediately following the game, I'm talking fifty nine
Speaker 1: minutes after that game ends, the buses pull out of
Speaker 1: the stadium and they go directly to the airport where
Speaker 1: you board a plane and you come right back home
Speaker 1: to sleep in your own bed that night. Now, one
Speaker 1: thing I want to make sure we clarify. Did Matt,
Speaker 1: had you ever been told that and it just slipped
Speaker 1: your mind? Or he had been told it had been
Speaker 1: made very clear that that this process. I think that's
Speaker 1: like I think David took me aside like two or
Speaker 1: three days. My boss took me aside two or three
Speaker 1: days before we left and was like, this is what's
Speaker 1: going to happen before, during, and after. Because I was
Speaker 1: immediately going to point the finger at David and be like,
Speaker 1: how did nobody tell him? David is the most thorough
Speaker 1: in prepared person. Sound like David. I wish he would.
Speaker 1: I wish he was listening right now. He's sitting in
Speaker 1: the room, but he's not listening to this. I wish
Speaker 1: he was. So but you were told multiple time, multiple times. Okay, okay, good, Yes,
Speaker 1: So Matt knows of this process. And I I feel
Speaker 1: so privileged to have been sitting in the seat behind
Speaker 1: him on the bus going to the airport and d
Speaker 1: L David, this boss that we speak of, is sitting
Speaker 1: across from Matt and there's there's no one else really
Speaker 1: around us. That was about it. And you know, when
Speaker 1: you pull up to an airport or you know that
Speaker 1: you're at an airport because of the signs that are
Speaker 1: on the runway, so it will be like a random
Speaker 1: or you see the planes. What sparked this is because
Speaker 1: it's it's nighttime. What sparked his mind to think, oh god,
Speaker 1: we're not where I think we are is there's the signs.
Speaker 1: I say, like am dash like letting the pilots know
Speaker 1: where they are and how they're going, and you see
Speaker 1: the runway lights. Matt drops a line that I don't
Speaker 1: think could have been delivered any better. In the moment,
Speaker 1: the line was, um, are we not going back to
Speaker 1: the hotel? It was more of a whisper because you
Speaker 1: weren't saying that's anyone in particular. You're just da, He's
Speaker 1: the only one I trust. Because Caroline was sitting right
Speaker 1: behind me, and I knew I knew she was going
Speaker 1: to laugh at me. You could definitely not trust Caroline
Speaker 1: in that moment. Yeah, So I was just I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: we're not going to the hotel, right, and and David
Speaker 1: was like no, Now, you have probably been worrying about
Speaker 1: that for a while before saying that, right, because you
Speaker 1: had to realize that suddenly we were leaving downtown Atlanta.
Speaker 1: The hotel is not this direction. Well, you guys are
Speaker 1: used to the just incredible pace that everyone's on, and
Speaker 1: I am like, I think I'm the only person on
Speaker 1: the trip who isn't a full time employee. So I'm
Speaker 1: like the bottom of the food change is not knowing
Speaker 1: what's going on. I've never been to the stadium as
Speaker 1: a fan before. I've never like it was. I hadn't
Speaker 1: been to Atlanta a couple of years. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: So We're moving really fast to get out of there,
Speaker 1: and I'm just eating my barbecue because they give you
Speaker 1: this thing a barbecue. It was really good, by the way,
Speaker 1: So I was just I should have just noticed that
Speaker 1: everyone all day had both bags and I only had one.
Speaker 1: That was I guess because I had one bag, people
Speaker 1: didn't ask like, hey, where's your bag? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: if it was one of those was one of those
Speaker 1: things where if I had just taken three seconds to
Speaker 1: been like, Okay, we're leaving very fast and very quick
Speaker 1: after the game, I should have my bags. But I
Speaker 1: did ask two people, and the fact that I can't
Speaker 1: remember who it is doesn't help my case. But I
Speaker 1: did ask two people, and I think I asked the
Speaker 1: only two people of them, and one of them was
Speaker 1: the only person that was actually going back to the hotel.
Speaker 1: So out of the I think we travel with around
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty, maybe a hundred people, but a
Speaker 1: hundred people. He asked the one person that was going
Speaker 1: back to that And what did you ask that person?
Speaker 1: I said, we're coming. This was in the morning, before
Speaker 1: we had left for the stadium. I said, we're coming
Speaker 1: back to the hotel, right, And I think they thought
Speaker 1: I was asking if they were coming back to the hotel,
Speaker 1: which for them the answer was yes, and for me
Speaker 1: it was definitely not. That's a really tough break. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the question is who was the second person? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The first person was Harold. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure when Harold was staying behind, he actually thank you, Harold.
Speaker 1: I don't think he listens to this, but he did.
Speaker 1: He didn't. I don't think he listens any of the podcast,
Speaker 1: but I do appreciate what he's bringing back my bag.
Speaker 1: So he's not rude. Well, it gets better, it gets better.
Speaker 1: So not only does he realize he doesn't have his bag,
Speaker 1: the next sentence out of his mouth is I have nothing.
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized how hilarious this story was
Speaker 1: about to become. Because d L is very much a
Speaker 1: handle it yourself kind of person. He's going to task
Speaker 1: you with something like these podcasts. He wants you to
Speaker 1: make it great. But then he's going to leave it
Speaker 1: up to us of what we want this podcast to
Speaker 1: be about. So he puts it on. Matt called the hotel.
Speaker 1: Call the hotel and Sue, see what see what you
Speaker 1: can do? So it isn't very much. Here are the
Speaker 1: consequences of your actions. So Matt's on the phone. Everyone
Speaker 1: is just you know, it is a very fast paced process.
Speaker 1: So you get off the buses, you immediately bore the
Speaker 1: plane and maybe in twenty minutes your airborne. So he's
Speaker 1: on the phone with this hotel. Now think about when
Speaker 1: you leave the hotel room and you think you're coming back.
Speaker 1: Is your backpacked? Absolutely not. Your stuff was every everywhere,
Speaker 1: is in the bathroom, is in the hallway. Chip to
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, which I just gonna say it
Speaker 1: wasn't the best set up for this. Do you feel
Speaker 1: good when you woke up on Sunday morning, actually yesterday
Speaker 1: when I got to the office Mick. Mick was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but if I was a betting man,
Speaker 1: I'd say you were a little hungover. And of course
Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no, But he he had
Speaker 1: a great weekend that really benefited more than just him
Speaker 1: because of this story. So I think you missed the
Speaker 1: best part though. I don't think I told you. When
Speaker 1: I was on the plane, I was like on the
Speaker 1: phone and they didn't believe it was me because apparently
Speaker 1: we didn't check out until the next day like on paper.
Speaker 1: But they were like, this isn't the real Matt Hogan.
Speaker 1: You're still here at the hotel. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is me. So they had like fight them to
Speaker 1: get Harold access to my room. They thought I was
Speaker 1: like faking. Yeah, it is a great moment in this story.
Speaker 1: It's a long story short. He ends up having to
Speaker 1: call the hotel and asked him to pack his bag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to go in there and pack the bag,
Speaker 1: because I did in everything is everywhere. And then did
Speaker 1: you get your things? How did this end? Because I
Speaker 1: lost interest after I found out what really happened. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you got your things correct. I did get my things.
Speaker 1: They would not go in my room because of I
Speaker 1: hadn't checked out yet, so Harold had to go in
Speaker 1: there and pick up my dirty clothes and put them
Speaker 1: in my bag. And I left my keys and my medicine,
Speaker 1: like I left just everything I needed except for my
Speaker 1: laptop in a hoodie which was my back. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is brutal, dead and it was just it was more
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. That's happened to me before. I have left
Speaker 1: bags places the first time on a trip like this. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: but like I've left things. I I lose my wallet
Speaker 1: and keys every day, so I lose things all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm very unorganized. An entire suitcase or have you left
Speaker 1: it out? I wouldn't rule it out. Wow, it's possible, Max.
Speaker 1: Would you have packed my bags in that situation? I mean,
Speaker 1: and you would be you would never hear the end
Speaker 1: of it, obviously. Yeah. I think I would have put
Speaker 1: your suitcase somewhere obscure getting back. There's no way I
Speaker 1: would have just walked in this room and given you
Speaker 1: the suitcase. No way I would have put it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have put it somewhere where it was. The
Speaker 1: embarrassment would have continued for you to have to go
Speaker 1: get your bad You've lost your wallet multiple times, multiple times.
Speaker 1: This is like my ninth wallet in the last You
Speaker 1: have to cancel all your cards and all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a spare license in my center console in
Speaker 1: my car, just like in drive. Still that's my anxiety
Speaker 1: to think about all the stuff you'd have to do
Speaker 1: to replace. Oh my god. Yeah, you live a crazy life, man.
Speaker 1: It's it's a radical way to live. But it's weird
Speaker 1: because I'm not disorganized with like my work or anything else.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to like my personal items or
Speaker 1: like my apartment, it's it's pretty rough. Your apartment is
Speaker 1: not a clean place. It is now. But when I
Speaker 1: had a roommate that was also a man that was
Speaker 1: not your fiance has elevated. She does a very good job.
Speaker 1: Good good job finding someone that would elevate. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: but that that's that's producer Matt for you. Right there.
Speaker 1: He left his bag in Atlanta. Now, the good news
Speaker 1: about all of this, and what makes it so funny
Speaker 1: is that there's a happy ending and that it wasn't
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. It was just pure embarrassment
Speaker 1: for Matt as he sat on this plane thinking could
Speaker 1: this have been worse. All I want to know is
Speaker 1: do you think I will get another invite for a
Speaker 1: trip not this season? By not going to Indie. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna get on that one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, And by we, I mean, well
Speaker 1: talk about it. You're saving grace? Is that it is?
Speaker 1: It just affects you. It's not like you relate to
Speaker 1: the bus or anything like. If you do anything so
Speaker 1: I hold the team up, then you're in trouble. I
Speaker 1: was perfectly at the time. But yeah, this is just
Speaker 1: you and Harold. I mean, those are the only characters
Speaker 1: the story may need to talk to Harold to make
Speaker 1: the decision if you're going again, so you better be
Speaker 1: in good graces. Does Harold get a thank you card
Speaker 1: or thank you? I had to do something getting something
Speaker 1: from you, man. We got to do something for him.
Speaker 1: And at least although you were not alone, you were
Speaker 1: not alone this weekend in in the not so. I
Speaker 1: guess suitcases were involved in this, but didn't. Was it
Speaker 1: the Chiefs? The Chiefs equipment went to the wrong city, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to the wrong went to New Jersey. Yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to New Jersey. They actually had a time cut off
Speaker 1: where they had to get into the stadium or they
Speaker 1: would have had to forfeit the game. So thank goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forty minutes forty minutes into the flight, it was just
Speaker 1: dead quiet, and I'm just stewing an embarrassment. And then
Speaker 1: I get a text from Caroline and it just it's
Speaker 1: a picture of the tweet of the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: and he was like, you're not or she was like,
Speaker 1: you're not the only one who the bag. I couldn't help,
Speaker 1: but I was just trying to make him feel better,
Speaker 1: because we all know how that feels when you've done
Speaker 1: something and you're wondering, is everyone mad at me? Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought everybody was mad. No one was mad. I was.
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to Matt in the plane, and
Speaker 1: you look pretty content. I mean, in came the first
Speaker 1: of course of food, ice cream bar. Then came yeah,
Speaker 1: he seems like he was trying. He was eating all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and I said, Max thinks I am a pig.
Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who'd been on his first
Speaker 1: road trip, you know, because like when you're first on
Speaker 1: the team plane, it's like, oh my god, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of food, Like I can take hog does ice cream.
Speaker 1: I can take this candy bar, I can take chips,
Speaker 1: like all the grapes, And he looked like like a
Speaker 1: kid who was like, I'm not going to say not
Speaker 1: any of this because that might have been your only one,
Speaker 1: but do you say you might as well get everything
Speaker 1: you can? All the food? The whole weekend was great
Speaker 1: and they were like, would you like flame Mignon and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, and they brought it and
Speaker 1: it was like microwavable still airplane. Yeah, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I assumed it was assuming that Ruth Chris was catering
Speaker 1: like steak and chicken at breakfast, like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that the breakfast is oh I would love.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite part of this first time traveling
Speaker 1: with the team. What was your favorite part of the
Speaker 1: experience Now that we've steak and chicken to breakfast, obviously
Speaker 1: it was pretty good. Um, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the stadium and being on the sidelines. Borrowing
Speaker 1: your phone charger because before I left Atlanta, so um
Speaker 1: a charger to he didn't even that didn't even make
Speaker 1: it to it. Oh my god. I had to borrow
Speaker 1: one from Mick and then I had to borrow one
Speaker 1: Caroline man, so I was, I don't know. She can
Speaker 1: only go up from here, l s u one. He's
Speaker 1: a happy man. It can only go up from here, Matt.
Speaker 1: If I get an invite back, I think I'll be
Speaker 1: prepared next time. Oh man, that's just phenomenal. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: glad we got that out of the way. Thanks for
Speaker 1: the feature. You're welcome. It all works out, Matt. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on completing your first trip with the team. Um, and
Speaker 1: let us know if you get the fight back. We
Speaker 1: can't wait for it. But for this podcast, we are
Speaker 1: going to talk some football, not just embarrassed Matt for
Speaker 1: an entire forty minutes and talking football right now for
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Where do we rank this on enjoyable
Speaker 1: things to do? Just as as a collective group, there
Speaker 1: are plenty of topics to talk about, but as far
Speaker 1: as enjoyable, what this talking about? It is just talking
Speaker 1: about Panther football right now? Where's the where the excitement? Excitement? Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, the excitement. I mean if you were you
Speaker 1: were in the stadium in Atlanta Sunday, Um, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was not exactly a sizzling electric atmosphere. Well, what
Speaker 1: did you think of from from watching the broadcast version?
Speaker 1: Did you feel the energy? Yeah, it was there. There
Speaker 1: is a level of conversation here in the in the
Speaker 1: Sunday crew as we call it. You're in the stadium
Speaker 1: um in Bank of America Stadium as we're watching the game,
Speaker 1: and it got increasingly quiet after a couple of plays.
Speaker 1: That sounds about the same as it was in the
Speaker 1: stadium me, Mercedes Benz, it's not the most exciting football
Speaker 1: right now to watch. We'll be honest with you. We're
Speaker 1: going to keep it real on the group chat. But
Speaker 1: this leads to the conversation of what does this team do?
Speaker 1: And Perry Fuel was asked this week how do you
Speaker 1: balance the evaluating young players and looking ahead to and
Speaker 1: still having to win football games. I think that is
Speaker 1: the topic of conversation for the next three weeks for
Speaker 1: this football team. You're not going to the playoffs. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are up for contracts, big
Speaker 1: players on this team, and they're upper contracts after this season.
Speaker 1: You're doing this whole new regime of you know, Ron
Speaker 1: River for the past nine years now, Perry Fuel is
Speaker 1: getting his shot, Scott Turner is getting his shot. Interviews
Speaker 1: and conversations are being had away from that coaching staff
Speaker 1: with David Tepper of finding this new head coach. So
Speaker 1: then you get into how do you evaluate the talent
Speaker 1: you have first trying to win games? Because there is
Speaker 1: a fine line there and I thought what Perry said
Speaker 1: it was nice. It's a little bit of both, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why we saw Zilstra in the game
Speaker 1: late in the game, Um, you know Dorge being back
Speaker 1: at kick return and point return. I think that was
Speaker 1: also an experiment there. So there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: But one thing that is exciting is puns. I think
Speaker 1: we can all get excited about a good pun and
Speaker 1: Perry fuel come on, like fuel up. We already jumped
Speaker 1: on that one early. We jumped on the fuel up early.
Speaker 1: So for the exciting segment of this podcast, we're doing
Speaker 1: Perry Fuel puns. Go ahead, who's going first? I want
Speaker 1: to hear Will's Will is excited about his Well. So
Speaker 1: here's the thing you guys each week, and we've we've
Speaker 1: heard y'all, sorry y'all on the podcast. We've heard about
Speaker 1: y'all's epic rant from Max A couple of weeks back
Speaker 1: about you know, kind of in the max mentions on
Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know, Carolines. You know, we we've we've
Speaker 1: gone into some of the things Caroline's experienced on the Twitter.
Speaker 1: So this week I got to experience a little bit
Speaker 1: of that on my Twitter. Panthers panther stat guy, um,
Speaker 1: and I have to say that for all of the barbs,
Speaker 1: for all of the attacks put on me, Barbara, there
Speaker 1: could have been a barb. Yeah, all yeah, all of those,
Speaker 1: all those stinging attacks on me. I thought that I
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job and i'mna continue to do
Speaker 1: that job here on the podcast of parrying the attacks
Speaker 1: quite well. Mm hmm, oh my god, oh god. Honestly
Speaker 1: I missed it. So maybe it was such a good
Speaker 1: pie and that I didn't catch us it was such
Speaker 1: a terrible I'm not sure what that means perry to
Speaker 1: ward off a weapon or attack with a counter move Perry.
Speaker 1: So that's not really a pun, just using it in
Speaker 1: a sentence. Well, it's it's the it's the name, but
Speaker 1: used differently. It's the same. Well it's spelled different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a different word completely, but it sounds the same.
Speaker 1: It's a hominem. I want to know why now you're
Speaker 1: you're under attack again. I want to know why you
Speaker 1: were under attack in the first place. All right, here's
Speaker 1: the original, the premise of what I was trying to
Speaker 1: get to about football. So I was tweeting about some
Speaker 1: Christian stats, your favorite thing to do. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's easy, and got a lot of attacks, especially after
Speaker 1: um a certain Twitter account retweeted me about, um, get
Speaker 1: him out of the game. Why is he in there?
Speaker 1: He should not play another down for the rest of
Speaker 1: this season. Why is he playing at all? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: sit him down, take his pads off, get him out.
Speaker 1: And this is Christian who didn't you know, obviously didn't score,
Speaker 1: didn't have no one really had a great day offensively,
Speaker 1: fourth quarter with three minutes left, you have the ball.
Speaker 1: He's trucking people on the side, angry runs, you know,
Speaker 1: and certainly there's a there's a level to be you know,
Speaker 1: to be careful and to make sure you're not putting
Speaker 1: yourself out there. But he's a competitor, he's a football player,
Speaker 1: you know, he should be angry about the way that
Speaker 1: that game and this season is going. He should want
Speaker 1: to show that you know, he still has some competitive
Speaker 1: fire in him. I we were listening to the Jake
Speaker 1: and Jordan podcast from last week, and one of the
Speaker 1: things Jake said was when John Fox took over the
Speaker 1: one and fifteen team, one of the first things he
Speaker 1: did was looked at the last game of the year
Speaker 1: from the year before and saw who was still fighting, like,
Speaker 1: who was still trying, who still wanted to to prove
Speaker 1: something to themselves and their teammates into the fans. And
Speaker 1: I think that Christian obviously is still doing that. I
Speaker 1: think the number of players on this team that are
Speaker 1: still doing that, and I I want to say, I
Speaker 1: mean week sevent team, We'll see the next two weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should go out there and ball out and do
Speaker 1: his best. All these guys should. Yeah, And I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Christian is putting together a pretty spectacular season. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he wants to finish it the right way.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team sport, but individually, Christians
Speaker 1: got goals, He's got aspirations, and yeah, you better believe
Speaker 1: he's going to continue to go after that. If we
Speaker 1: know one thing about Christian, every time he's on the
Speaker 1: football field, he's trying to make a count, and I
Speaker 1: think that's I was now on the sideline at this point,
Speaker 1: sitting next to Caroline. The game is decieted, and I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting for it to end and get in the
Speaker 1: locker room for interviews. And I mean I was, I
Speaker 1: was right there on the sideline when he trucks that dude.
Speaker 1: And I mean just the way he got in his
Speaker 1: face afterwards. I mean, I think that's a way of
Speaker 1: Christian leading there. It's very easy for guys right now
Speaker 1: to kind of just, you know, this cliche goes pack
Speaker 1: it in, um, But when christ McCaffrey's doing that, if
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for my job, are we doing that? If
Speaker 1: if one of the guy who's playing at MVP level
Speaker 1: is playing like that, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: a way that he can lead without being a raw
Speaker 1: ra guy. The talk is over at this point. It's
Speaker 1: who's going to go out there and do it at
Speaker 1: this point, right And you can count a Christian. I
Speaker 1: think he's definitely doing an all offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: On the defensive side, Luke Keikley was still pressing Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan to take a time out late in the game
Speaker 1: because of a coverage that he switched to and I
Speaker 1: think that's that's what you're talking about. Of Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't say anything at this point. This team is not
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. It's going to The team is
Speaker 1: going to look very different next year as far as
Speaker 1: his team makeup, and obviously the head coach and the
Speaker 1: coaches that are in that locker room. Change is coming
Speaker 1: and they're going to have to start playing for their
Speaker 1: jobs and paying for their security. And I still go
Speaker 1: back to I think in this entire process of coaching
Speaker 1: change and culture change here, I go back to a
Speaker 1: quote that Ron Rivera said in his media car wash
Speaker 1: farewell deal that he did last week, and he was asked,
Speaker 1: what's something that you regret, and he says, not having
Speaker 1: the time or not re introducing the culture that he
Speaker 1: did when he first got here. And then the fact
Speaker 1: that there are four I believe they said, four guys
Speaker 1: on this team still on the team from when he
Speaker 1: took over. So that culture that was so important to
Speaker 1: his reign here and his run here is gone and
Speaker 1: you have four guys that remember what that culture is like.
Speaker 1: That is what you're seeing play out now. You're seeing
Speaker 1: a different culture than what you know. The Ron rivera
Speaker 1: era was in the early years that he was here,
Speaker 1: and now you have the Christian McCaffrey and the Luke
Speaker 1: Keithley and the Greg Olsen and those guys that get it,
Speaker 1: that were there for it and then heard about it,
Speaker 1: or you know, Christian, this is who he's been. If
Speaker 1: you talk to any of his coaches from college this
Speaker 1: that's just always working hard, hard to pull back the reins.
Speaker 1: So I just think that's what you're seeing so obvious,
Speaker 1: and what we're going to see so obvious in these
Speaker 1: last weeks is who's going to jump on this culture
Speaker 1: train train that is coming for this ORGANIZGM Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and who should be left behind? I think that's what're
Speaker 1: trying to find. You find out a lot about people
Speaker 1: when they go through something like this, and I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of a Christian Luke. These guys are kind
Speaker 1: of looking around the locker room and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: who's with me? Who's gonna be And you know, you
Speaker 1: saw Shaq Thompson rewarded with a four year contract extension.
Speaker 1: The Panthers believe he's a guy that is a core
Speaker 1: piece they can build around that they're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who's going to be along for this ride as
Speaker 1: they go through the next chapter of Panthers football. And
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna lead to some tough conversations. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think, Caroline, the earlier point you made
Speaker 1: about Perry saying young guys versus trying to win games,
Speaker 1: I mean, like Perry doesn't have a choice. Perry's gotta when.
Speaker 1: I mean, Parry has got no guarantee who'll be here,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is his opportunity. It's not like
Speaker 1: he can play the young guys, watch them develop, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly they're like the fruits of that labor next year.
Speaker 1: Paris got no guarantee he'll be here. The entire coaching
Speaker 1: staff is in that boat. So I mean, these guys
Speaker 1: are trying to win games. From a player's standpoint, it's
Speaker 1: is the locker room and this is this is my
Speaker 1: pun is does this team have any fuel left in
Speaker 1: the tank? And I don't. I don't. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: the answer to that question these next few weeks. But
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and Perry came out and said this yesterday, Um,
Speaker 1: it was bad football. It was bad I mean this,
Speaker 1: and the score said this, you know, told story Um.
Speaker 1: So it's one thing to have a few leaders who
Speaker 1: are still out there kind of busting their tail. But
Speaker 1: this is a team game, and if you don't have
Speaker 1: eleven guys doing it, it's gonna look like it did Sunday. Um.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's the situation this team is in.
Speaker 1: Is again Jerald McCoy talked about in the locker room,
Speaker 1: not gonna tuck our tails. We're not gonna pack it in.
Speaker 1: You got to move on to Seattle and we'll find out,
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll find out if this team is going
Speaker 1: to continue to fight for Perry, for this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: and if they're gonna you know, snap this losing skit. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: this is looking, unfortunately, a lot like last year did
Speaker 1: where it was, you know, a slide that never stopped. Um. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they've had a tough challenge this week with a Seattle
Speaker 1: team coming in that's playing for more than just pride. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my pun is fuel up the young guys. I'm on
Speaker 1: this train of you have to see what the talent
Speaker 1: on this team is made up of. But this doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that you're trading out players. I'm on the
Speaker 1: school of thought that I don't think Will Greer should
Speaker 1: see a snap this season. I I think you would
Speaker 1: open him up to failure if he's put in that situation.
Speaker 1: And I think Kyle is still a young guy. I
Speaker 1: think he still has a lot of room where he
Speaker 1: can improve. He understands what this offense is trying to
Speaker 1: do because he's been out there this season doing it.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I want to see Will
Speaker 1: Greer go in there and be put in this situation.
Speaker 1: So I think Kyle is in that young guy. I
Speaker 1: still think the Curtis Samuel is in that young guy,
Speaker 1: and you saw him get a handoff earlier in game.
Speaker 1: I think those are the moments that I want to see,
Speaker 1: not so much, you know, the zilstra is needing to
Speaker 1: get in there, or these young practice squad guys. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see them pulled up and given a chance.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that the guys that are on the
Speaker 1: roster are on the roster. I want to see j
Speaker 1: Botafan maybe get more involved, maybe even see if there
Speaker 1: is a practice squad guy and maybe it's Allijah holy Field,
Speaker 1: to see what put you know, pull that guy up
Speaker 1: and see what he can do. But I think that's
Speaker 1: what this team ask, did you over these next few weeks?
Speaker 1: But that puts Perry fuel in this coaching staff in
Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic of Perry even said it, If those
Speaker 1: work out, they're all geniuses. If it doesn't work out,
Speaker 1: they're a terrible coaching staff, and that you know, he
Speaker 1: said something along those lines in the press conference, and
Speaker 1: he's right. But I almost what do you have to
Speaker 1: lose at this point? If you're Perry fueling this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: they're already on the hot seat. Normally, what happens with
Speaker 1: coaching staffs. We know if the head coach goes, there's
Speaker 1: many many to follow. So I think right now you
Speaker 1: have to show that you can coach, and why not
Speaker 1: get a young guy involved and show that you're willing
Speaker 1: to take the risk and and that you've coached him
Speaker 1: up to be successful. That's why I want to see
Speaker 1: in these last three games because of who you're playing too,
Speaker 1: it's Seattle. This is the game though that when we
Speaker 1: looked at the last four games of this season, this
Speaker 1: is the one we have no business winning, but for
Speaker 1: some reason we might win. Like these these are the
Speaker 1: games that completely shake up the NFL because They're all
Speaker 1: talented players out there, it's just the team that's working
Speaker 1: the best together. This is the game that we have
Speaker 1: no business. But I mean, look, they just a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago they were down in New Orleans and had
Speaker 1: that Saints teams on the ropes. My question that I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm winning to see this team answer is it did
Speaker 1: that loss take it out of them? You know that
Speaker 1: that seemed like one of where it was like that
Speaker 1: was that just all of the air went out of
Speaker 1: the balloon in that one, just because of how gut
Speaker 1: wrenching it was. Um, they haven't. They haven't been able
Speaker 1: to quote unquote bounce back from that. And maybe they
Speaker 1: will against Seattle and put together another really good performance
Speaker 1: against a playoff bound team. But that Saints game and
Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards, I think we said it
Speaker 1: on the show, it felt like a playoff loss, Like
Speaker 1: it felt like it it ended there because they had
Speaker 1: given really everything. They had suffered some major injuries throughout
Speaker 1: the course of that game and to still come out
Speaker 1: with a loss. Here we are a few weeks later
Speaker 1: and things have kind of gone downhill from there. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm waiting to see is there an uptick
Speaker 1: coming or will that Saints game proved to have been
Speaker 1: the one that was kind of the nail in this
Speaker 1: team's coffin. And I think a lot of has been
Speaker 1: made of the you know, backed up on the seven,
Speaker 1: send all your blitz and and you see saw what
Speaker 1: happened there in Atlanta. But I think that type of
Speaker 1: attitude is the attitude that this team has to have
Speaker 1: going into the rest of this season, just because you
Speaker 1: haven't seen that, and that that mindset of we can
Speaker 1: get to this quarterback before he makes a play on
Speaker 1: us is something I think this this is the the
Speaker 1: over the fence moment for this team, if you and
Speaker 1: get a couple of guys to do that. I think
Speaker 1: that's where Perry Fuel was saying. If we pull it off,
Speaker 1: we're a genius. If it goes wrong, we're terrible. And
Speaker 1: I think that's honestly, that was the most telling thing
Speaker 1: I think Perry Fuel has said so far is we're aware,
Speaker 1: we know we're talking in these meetings of how do
Speaker 1: we make a moment in these last few weeks to
Speaker 1: show what kind of coaching staff we are, the type
Speaker 1: of players that we think we have. Now that one
Speaker 1: could not have gone worse for them. Yeah, that the play,
Speaker 1: the comments made after everything was terrible, But I think
Speaker 1: those are the moments that I want to see this
Speaker 1: team fuel up on moments like that, fuel up these
Speaker 1: young guys, find some type of fire in these last
Speaker 1: three weeks and win a game that you have no
Speaker 1: business winning. I think there are two on the schedule
Speaker 1: that I don't really think you have any business winning.
Speaker 1: I think number one is this weekend against the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and I think the Saints, depending well, depending on what
Speaker 1: the Saints have to play there at that point to
Speaker 1: play for it. But I think those are the two.
Speaker 1: I get the logic behind what Perry did on that
Speaker 1: play too. I mean he's trying something, trying to do
Speaker 1: something to just give this team a spark and welcome
Speaker 1: to being a head coach. I mean, play goes wrong
Speaker 1: on you, you're gonna have to stand there and answer
Speaker 1: the questions about it and take the accountability. That was
Speaker 1: a call he made. It completely backfired. Um, But I understand,
Speaker 1: and I think he should continue these next few weeks
Speaker 1: to try to do that for this team, try something
Speaker 1: to clear what what they what they've done clearly for
Speaker 1: the past five weeks now has not worked. So why
Speaker 1: not try to inject something different into the equation. And
Speaker 1: if it means being a little bit more aggressive in
Speaker 1: a situation, I don't I don't mind that aggressiveness, especially
Speaker 1: right now. I think that way what that's what makes
Speaker 1: this team potentially dangerous for a Seahawks team is they
Speaker 1: can play that nothing to lose card in some respects
Speaker 1: and try something different and see if it catches Seattle
Speaker 1: off guard. I also want to I want to see
Speaker 1: them not only make those play calls, but then just
Speaker 1: have those moments where it feels like they're still enjoying
Speaker 1: playing football that's been gone in Atlanta. Atlanta is what
Speaker 1: a four win team? There were three wins coming into
Speaker 1: the game, and they're out there celebrating the they won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. When their kicker recovers a fumble, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was, you know, obviously like the ball
Speaker 1: bounced to them. It felt like and it's been bouncing
Speaker 1: away from the Panthers for weeks, it's felt like. But
Speaker 1: it just feels you know, you want to just go
Speaker 1: out there and it's backyard football. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: to beat the guy across from you and I think
Speaker 1: you you're you're in control of that to a certain degree,
Speaker 1: right And I think in this league you kind of
Speaker 1: make your own luck. I mean, Eric Reid drops an interception,
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas bobbles the ball that ends up being an interception.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta make the plays. If you want
Speaker 1: to have fun playing the game, you've got to make
Speaker 1: the plays and get everybody excited around you. And instead
Speaker 1: of this team, it's been drops, and it's been blown assignments,
Speaker 1: and it's been miss blocks, and of course it's going
Speaker 1: to look kind of sad out there at times instead
Speaker 1: of what Atlanta was able to enjoy Sunday, which was
Speaker 1: taking turns making plays. You gotta you gotta make them.
Speaker 1: And right now this team, I just rattled off a few,
Speaker 1: they're not so we need the fuel. Give us some
Speaker 1: fuel injected into the veins of the Carolina Panthers for
Speaker 1: these last few weeks, and give Matt some fuel to
Speaker 1: stop losing stuff. Matt, we hope you enjoyed this podcast.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week after hopefully talking about
Speaker 1: a game that even the the Panthers may not I'm
Speaker 1: just feeling I don't know if it will be a
Speaker 1: win but I feel like we will be still in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with something to play for a win,
Speaker 1: not the playoffs, but a win. I just I just
Speaker 1: have this weird feeling something has to turn for this team,
Speaker 1: and a team that has nothing to lose is a
Speaker 1: dangerous team. That's what I feel like it's happening to
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. They have nothing to lose. I think
Speaker 1: when they got a new interim head coach, there was
Speaker 1: still this sense of, oh, we can like prove that.
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna play we heard it, We're gonna
Speaker 1: play for wrong, We're gonna play for ourselves. That didn't work,
Speaker 1: so now they literally have nothing. Everyone is expecting them
Speaker 1: to go out, I believe, to go out and not
Speaker 1: have a good performance, and they're just gonna run through
Speaker 1: these last three games and everyone's on and all these things.
Speaker 1: I think that is the exact Unfortunately, that's the exact
Speaker 1: motivation that some of these guys needed on this team.
Speaker 1: Please prove me right, because I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. I guess the Seahawks to
Speaker 1: you guys, don't look like you agree. Will has a
Speaker 1: look on his face that just thinks you're an idiot.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're an idiot. You're an idiot. I
Speaker 1: think I think Sunday will I think Sunday will tell
Speaker 1: us some things. I think Sunday will tell us something
Speaker 1: that's profound interesting. Guys, thanks for listening to the group chat.
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