WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 24: A Family Matter

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys. This week on the group chat, we are

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<v Speaker 1>getting pretty honest about what we want to see out

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<v Speaker 1>of this team for the last three weeks. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, they were down in New Orleans and

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<v Speaker 1>had that Saints teams on the ropes. My question that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm going to see this team answer is

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<v Speaker 1>it did that loss take it out of them? But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into that, it's time to embarrass a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the group chat. Matt drops the line that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think could have been delivered any better in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, The line was, um, are we not going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the hotel? It was more of a whisperer.

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<v Speaker 1>We have those things and so much more. On this

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<v Speaker 1>week's the group chat, You've been added to the group

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<v Speaker 1>chat with your friends Caroline, can Max Sensen, and Will Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Here at the group chat, we're a family. We feel

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<v Speaker 1>that right everyone here we agree we're a family. Faking

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<v Speaker 1>the head. Yeah, we're a family here, and in a family,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you have to deal with family matters, which means

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing a member of the family. Normally, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I do a good job of embarrassing myself with some segments,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't feel bad when I turned that embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a member of the family. And today we have

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<v Speaker 1>a great story about producer Matt. Yeah, not about me

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<v Speaker 1>or Wills. It's definitely not about me. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>great story anyone out there that has had something happened,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in the first year or the first moment of

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<v Speaker 1>a job, and you just it just went wrong, everything

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong. We have a moment like this for our dear,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet producer Matt, who already has the microphone in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his face so ready too. He can't defend himself,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think, maybe just clean up the story. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. We're in Atlanta. Everyone, We are on

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<v Speaker 1>our way back from Atlanta, and this is Matt's first

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<v Speaker 1>time traveling with the team, but he has been told

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<v Speaker 1>about the procedures of this process. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things that maybe people don't understand and don't know

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<v Speaker 1>is that immediately following the game, I'm talking fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after that game ends, the buses pull out of

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium and they go directly to the airport where

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<v Speaker 1>you board a plane and you come right back home

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in your own bed that night. Now, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to make sure we clarify. Did Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>had you ever been told that and it just slipped

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? Or he had been told it had been

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<v Speaker 1>made very clear that that this process. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>like I think David took me aside like two or

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<v Speaker 1>three days. My boss took me aside two or three

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<v Speaker 1>days before we left and was like, this is what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen before, during, and after. Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>immediately going to point the finger at David and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did nobody tell him? David is the most thorough

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<v Speaker 1>in prepared person. Sound like David. I wish he would.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he was listening right now. He's sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, but he's not listening to this. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>he was. So but you were told multiple time, multiple times. Okay, okay, good, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt knows of this process. And I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so privileged to have been sitting in the seat behind

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<v Speaker 1>him on the bus going to the airport and d

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<v Speaker 1>L David, this boss that we speak of, is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>across from Matt and there's there's no one else really

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<v Speaker 1>around us. That was about it. And you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you pull up to an airport or you know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're at an airport because of the signs that are

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<v Speaker 1>on the runway, so it will be like a random

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<v Speaker 1>or you see the planes. What sparked this is because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's nighttime. What sparked his mind to think, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not where I think we are is there's the signs.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, like am dash like letting the pilots know

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<v Speaker 1>where they are and how they're going, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the runway lights. Matt drops a line that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think could have been delivered any better. In the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>the line was, um, are we not going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel? It was more of a whisper because you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't saying that's anyone in particular. You're just da, He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one I trust. Because Caroline was sitting right

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<v Speaker 1>behind me, and I knew I knew she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh at me. You could definitely not trust Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment. Yeah, So I was just I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to the hotel, right, and and David

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<v Speaker 1>was like no, Now, you have probably been worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>that for a while before saying that, right, because you

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<v Speaker 1>had to realize that suddenly we were leaving downtown Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>The hotel is not this direction. Well, you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>used to the just incredible pace that everyone's on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, I think I'm the only person on

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<v Speaker 1>the trip who isn't a full time employee. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like the bottom of the food change is not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I've never been to the stadium as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan before. I've never like it was. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been to Atlanta a couple of years. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So We're moving really fast to get out of there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just eating my barbecue because they give you

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<v Speaker 1>this thing a barbecue. It was really good, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just I should have just noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone all day had both bags and I only had one.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I guess because I had one bag, people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask like, hey, where's your bag? But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>if it was one of those was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where if I had just taken three seconds to

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<v Speaker 1>been like, Okay, we're leaving very fast and very quick

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<v Speaker 1>after the game, I should have my bags. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did ask two people, and the fact that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember who it is doesn't help my case. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did ask two people, and I think I asked the

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<v Speaker 1>only two people of them, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>the only person that was actually going back to the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>So out of the I think we travel with around

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and twenty, maybe a hundred people, but a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people. He asked the one person that was going

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<v Speaker 1>back to that And what did you ask that person?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we're coming. This was in the morning, before

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<v Speaker 1>we had left for the stadium. I said, we're coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to the hotel, right, And I think they thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking if they were coming back to the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>which for them the answer was yes, and for me

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<v Speaker 1>it was definitely not. That's a really tough break. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the question is who was the second person? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The first person was Harold. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure when Harold was staying behind, he actually thank you, Harold.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he listens to this, but he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't. I don't think he listens any of the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do appreciate what he's bringing back my bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's not rude. Well, it gets better, it gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only does he realize he doesn't have his bag,

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<v Speaker 1>the next sentence out of his mouth is I have nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when I realized how hilarious this story was

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<v Speaker 1>about to become. Because d L is very much a

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<v Speaker 1>handle it yourself kind of person. He's going to task

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<v Speaker 1>you with something like these podcasts. He wants you to

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<v Speaker 1>make it great. But then he's going to leave it

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<v Speaker 1>up to us of what we want this podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>be about. So he puts it on. Matt called the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Call the hotel and Sue, see what see what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do? So it isn't very much. Here are the

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<v Speaker 1>consequences of your actions. So Matt's on the phone. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is just you know, it is a very fast paced process.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get off the buses, you immediately bore the

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<v Speaker 1>plane and maybe in twenty minutes your airborne. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with this hotel. Now think about when

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<v Speaker 1>you leave the hotel room and you think you're coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your backpacked? Absolutely not. Your stuff was every everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>is in the bathroom, is in the hallway. Chip to

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC Championship game, which I just gonna say it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the best set up for this. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>good when you woke up on Sunday morning, actually yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>when I got to the office Mick. Mick was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor, but if I was a betting man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say you were a little hungover. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no, no, no, But he he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend that really benefited more than just him

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<v Speaker 1>because of this story. So I think you missed the

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<v Speaker 1>best part though. I don't think I told you. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the plane, I was like on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and they didn't believe it was me because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't check out until the next day like on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were like, this isn't the real Matt Hogan.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still here at the hotel. And I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me. So they had like fight them to

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<v Speaker 1>get Harold access to my room. They thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>like faking. Yeah, it is a great moment in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long story short. He ends up having to

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<v Speaker 1>call the hotel and asked him to pack his bag. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go in there and pack the bag,

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<v Speaker 1>because I did in everything is everywhere. And then did

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<v Speaker 1>you get your things? How did this end? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>lost interest after I found out what really happened. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you got your things correct. I did get my things.

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<v Speaker 1>They would not go in my room because of I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't checked out yet, so Harold had to go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and pick up my dirty clothes and put them

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<v Speaker 1>in my bag. And I left my keys and my medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>like I left just everything I needed except for my

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<v Speaker 1>laptop in a hoodie which was my back. Oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is brutal, dead and it was just it was more

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing. That's happened to me before. I have left

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<v Speaker 1>bags places the first time on a trip like this. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I've left things. I I lose my wallet

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<v Speaker 1>and keys every day, so I lose things all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very unorganized. An entire suitcase or have you left

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<v Speaker 1>it out? I wouldn't rule it out. Wow, it's possible, Max.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you have packed my bags in that situation? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would be you would never hear the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it, obviously. Yeah. I think I would have put

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<v Speaker 1>your suitcase somewhere obscure getting back. There's no way I

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<v Speaker 1>would have just walked in this room and given you

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<v Speaker 1>the suitcase. No way I would have put it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have put it somewhere where it was. The

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassment would have continued for you to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>get your bad You've lost your wallet multiple times, multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like my ninth wallet in the last You

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<v Speaker 1>have to cancel all your cards and all of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a spare license in my center console in

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<v Speaker 1>my car, just like in drive. Still that's my anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>to think about all the stuff you'd have to do

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<v Speaker 1>to replace. Oh my god. Yeah, you live a crazy life, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a radical way to live. But it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not disorganized with like my work or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to like my personal items or

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<v Speaker 1>like my apartment, it's it's pretty rough. Your apartment is

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<v Speaker 1>not a clean place. It is now. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>had a roommate that was also a man that was

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<v Speaker 1>not your fiance has elevated. She does a very good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Good good job finding someone that would elevate. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that's that's producer Matt for you. Right there.

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<v Speaker 1>He left his bag in Atlanta. Now, the good news

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this, and what makes it so funny

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's a happy ending and that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal. It was just pure embarrassment

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<v Speaker 1>for Matt as he sat on this plane thinking could

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<v Speaker 1>this have been worse. All I want to know is

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I will get another invite for a

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<v Speaker 1>trip not this season? By not going to Indie. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you're gonna get on that one. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it, And by we, I mean, well

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. You're saving grace? Is that it is?

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<v Speaker 1>It just affects you. It's not like you relate to

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<v Speaker 1>the bus or anything like. If you do anything so

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<v Speaker 1>I hold the team up, then you're in trouble. I

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<v Speaker 1>was perfectly at the time. But yeah, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>you and Harold. I mean, those are the only characters

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<v Speaker 1>the story may need to talk to Harold to make

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<v Speaker 1>the decision if you're going again, so you better be

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<v Speaker 1>in good graces. Does Harold get a thank you card

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<v Speaker 1>or thank you? I had to do something getting something

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<v Speaker 1>from you, man. We got to do something for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And at least although you were not alone, you were

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<v Speaker 1>not alone this weekend in in the not so. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess suitcases were involved in this, but didn't. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs? The Chiefs equipment went to the wrong city, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to the wrong went to New Jersey. Yeah, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to New Jersey. They actually had a time cut off

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<v Speaker 1>where they had to get into the stadium or they

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<v Speaker 1>would have had to forfeit the game. So thank goodness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes forty minutes into the flight, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>dead quiet, and I'm just stewing an embarrassment. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I get a text from Caroline and it just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of the tweet of the Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, you're not or she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not the only one who the bag. I couldn't help,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just trying to make him feel better,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all know how that feels when you've done

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<v Speaker 1>something and you're wondering, is everyone mad at me? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought everybody was mad. No one was mad. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting next to Matt in the plane, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look pretty content. I mean, in came the first

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<v Speaker 1>of course of food, ice cream bar. Then came yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he seems like he was trying. He was eating all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and I said, Max thinks I am a pig.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like a guy who'd been on his first

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<v Speaker 1>road trip, you know, because like when you're first on

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<v Speaker 1>the team plane, it's like, oh my god, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of food, Like I can take hog does ice cream.

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<v Speaker 1>I can take this candy bar, I can take chips,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the grapes, And he looked like like a

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<v Speaker 1>kid who was like, I'm not going to say not

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<v Speaker 1>any of this because that might have been your only one,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you say you might as well get everything

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<v Speaker 1>you can? All the food? The whole weekend was great

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, would you like flame Mignon and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, yeah, and they brought it and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like microwavable still airplane. Yeah, but I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed it was assuming that Ruth Chris was catering

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<v Speaker 1>like steak and chicken at breakfast, like it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that the breakfast is oh I would love.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite part of this first time traveling

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<v Speaker 1>with the team. What was your favorite part of the

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<v Speaker 1>experience Now that we've steak and chicken to breakfast, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty good. Um, I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed the stadium and being on the sidelines. Borrowing

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<v Speaker 1>your phone charger because before I left Atlanta, so um

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<v Speaker 1>a charger to he didn't even that didn't even make

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<v Speaker 1>it to it. Oh my god. I had to borrow

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<v Speaker 1>one from Mick and then I had to borrow one

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline man, so I was, I don't know. She can

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<v Speaker 1>only go up from here, l s u one. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a happy man. It can only go up from here, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>If I get an invite back, I think I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared next time. Oh man, that's just phenomenal. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad we got that out of the way. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the feature. You're welcome. It all works out, Matt. Congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on completing your first trip with the team. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if you get the fight back. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for it. But for this podcast, we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk some football, not just embarrassed Matt for

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<v Speaker 1>an entire forty minutes and talking football right now for

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers. Where do we rank this on enjoyable

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<v Speaker 1>things to do? Just as as a collective group, there

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<v Speaker 1>are plenty of topics to talk about, but as far

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<v Speaker 1>as enjoyable, what this talking about? It is just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Panther football right now? Where's the where the excitement? Excitement? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, the excitement. I mean if you were you

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<v Speaker 1>were in the stadium in Atlanta Sunday, Um, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not exactly a sizzling electric atmosphere. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think of from from watching the broadcast version?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel the energy? Yeah, it was there. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a level of conversation here in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday crew as we call it. You're in the stadium

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<v Speaker 1>um in Bank of America Stadium as we're watching the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it got increasingly quiet after a couple of plays.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds about the same as it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>stadium me, Mercedes Benz, it's not the most exciting football

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<v Speaker 1>right now to watch. We'll be honest with you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep it real on the group chat. But

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<v Speaker 1>this leads to the conversation of what does this team do?

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<v Speaker 1>And Perry Fuel was asked this week how do you

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<v Speaker 1>balance the evaluating young players and looking ahead to and

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<v Speaker 1>still having to win football games. I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>the topic of conversation for the next three weeks for

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<v Speaker 1>this football team. You're not going to the playoffs. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that are up for contracts, big

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<v Speaker 1>players on this team, and they're upper contracts after this season.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing this whole new regime of you know, Ron

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<v Speaker 1>River for the past nine years now, Perry Fuel is

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<v Speaker 1>getting his shot, Scott Turner is getting his shot. Interviews

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<v Speaker 1>and conversations are being had away from that coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>with David Tepper of finding this new head coach. So

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<v Speaker 1>then you get into how do you evaluate the talent

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<v Speaker 1>you have first trying to win games? Because there is

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<v Speaker 1>a fine line there and I thought what Perry said

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<v Speaker 1>it was nice. It's a little bit of both, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why we saw Zilstra in the game

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<v Speaker 1>late in the game, Um, you know Dorge being back

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<v Speaker 1>at kick return and point return. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>also an experiment there. So there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing that is exciting is puns. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can all get excited about a good pun and

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<v Speaker 1>Perry fuel come on, like fuel up. We already jumped

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<v Speaker 1>on that one early. We jumped on the fuel up early.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the exciting segment of this podcast, we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>Perry Fuel puns. Go ahead, who's going first? I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear Will's Will is excited about his Well. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing you guys each week, and we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard y'all, sorry y'all on the podcast. We've heard about

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<v Speaker 1>y'all's epic rant from Max A couple of weeks back

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, kind of in the max mentions on

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, you know, Carolines. You know, we we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone into some of the things Caroline's experienced on the Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So this week I got to experience a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that on my Twitter. Panthers panther stat guy, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to say that for all of the barbs,

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<v Speaker 1>for all of the attacks put on me, Barbara, there

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a barb. Yeah, all yeah, all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>all those stinging attacks on me. I thought that I

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<v Speaker 1>did a pretty good job and i'mna continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>that job here on the podcast of parrying the attacks

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<v Speaker 1>quite well. Mm hmm, oh my god, oh god. Honestly

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it. So maybe it was such a good

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<v Speaker 1>pie and that I didn't catch us it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible I'm not sure what that means perry to

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<v Speaker 1>ward off a weapon or attack with a counter move Perry.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not really a pun, just using it in

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<v Speaker 1>a sentence. Well, it's it's the it's the name, but

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<v Speaker 1>used differently. It's the same. Well it's spelled different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a different word completely, but it sounds the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hominem. I want to know why now you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're under attack again. I want to know why you

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<v Speaker 1>were under attack in the first place. All right, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the original, the premise of what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to about football. So I was tweeting about some

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<v Speaker 1>Christian stats, your favorite thing to do. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy, and got a lot of attacks, especially after

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<v Speaker 1>um a certain Twitter account retweeted me about, um, get

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the game. Why is he in there?

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<v Speaker 1>He should not play another down for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Why is he playing at all? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sit him down, take his pads off, get him out.

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And this is Christian who didn't you know, obviously didn't score,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have no one really had a great day offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter with three minutes left, you have the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trucking people on the side, angry runs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly there's a there's a level to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful and to make sure you're not putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out there. But he's a competitor, he's a football player,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he should be angry about the way that

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<v Speaker 1>that game and this season is going. He should want

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<v Speaker 1>to show that you know, he still has some competitive

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<v Speaker 1>fire in him. I we were listening to the Jake

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan podcast from last week, and one of the

0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.720
<v Speaker 1>things Jake said was when John Fox took over the

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<v Speaker 1>one and fifteen team, one of the first things he

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<v Speaker 1>did was looked at the last game of the year

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<v Speaker 1>from the year before and saw who was still fighting, like,

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<v Speaker 1>who was still trying, who still wanted to to prove

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<v Speaker 1>something to themselves and their teammates into the fans. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Christian obviously is still doing that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the number of players on this team that are

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<v Speaker 1>still doing that, and I I want to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean week sevent team, We'll see the next two weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he should go out there and ball out and do

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<v Speaker 1>his best. All these guys should. Yeah, And I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian is putting together a pretty spectacular season. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wants to finish it the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a team sport, but individually, Christians

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<v Speaker 1>got goals, He's got aspirations, and yeah, you better believe

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to continue to go after that. If we

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<v Speaker 1>know one thing about Christian, every time he's on the

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<v Speaker 1>football field, he's trying to make a count, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's I was now on the sideline at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to Caroline. The game is decieted, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting for it to end and get in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room for interviews. And I mean I was, I

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<v Speaker 1>was right there on the sideline when he trucks that dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean just the way he got in his

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<v Speaker 1>face afterwards. I mean, I think that's a way of

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<v Speaker 1>Christian leading there. It's very easy for guys right now

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of just, you know, this cliche goes pack

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<v Speaker 1>it in, um, But when christ McCaffrey's doing that, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fighting for my job, are we doing that? If

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<v Speaker 1>if one of the guy who's playing at MVP level

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<v Speaker 1>is playing like that, and I think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a way that he can lead without being a raw

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<v Speaker 1>ra guy. The talk is over at this point. It's

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to go out there and do it at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, right And you can count a Christian. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's definitely doing an all offensive side of the ball.

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:20.360
<v Speaker 1>On the defensive side, Luke Keikley was still pressing Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan to take a time out late in the game

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<v Speaker 1>because of a coverage that he switched to and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's what you're talking about. Of Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't say anything at this point. This team is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to the playoffs. It's going to The team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to look very different next year as far as

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<v Speaker 1>his team makeup, and obviously the head coach and the

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>coaches that are in that locker room. Change is coming

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to have to start playing for their

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and paying for their security. And I still go

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<v Speaker 1>back to I think in this entire process of coaching

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<v Speaker 1>change and culture change here, I go back to a

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<v Speaker 1>quote that Ron Rivera said in his media car wash

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<v Speaker 1>farewell deal that he did last week, and he was asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what's something that you regret, and he says, not having

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<v Speaker 1>the time or not re introducing the culture that he

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<v Speaker 1>did when he first got here. And then the fact

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that there are four I believe they said, four guys

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>on this team still on the team from when he

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>took over. So that culture that was so important to

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>his reign here and his run here is gone and

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you have four guys that remember what that culture is like.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what you're seeing play out now. You're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a different culture than what you know. The Ron rivera

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>era was in the early years that he was here,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you have the Christian McCaffrey and the Luke

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Keithley and the Greg Olsen and those guys that get it,

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that were there for it and then heard about it,

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 1>or you know, Christian, this is who he's been. If

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to any of his coaches from college this

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that's just always working hard, hard to pull back the reins.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just think that's what you're seeing so obvious,

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and what we're going to see so obvious in these

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>last weeks is who's going to jump on this culture

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>train train that is coming for this ORGANIZGM Yeah, and

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and who should be left behind? I think that's what're

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to find. You find out a lot about people

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>when they go through something like this, and I think

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a Christian Luke. These guys are kind

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of looking around the locker room and it's like, Okay,

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>who's with me? Who's gonna be And you know, you

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>saw Shaq Thompson rewarded with a four year contract extension.

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 1>The Panthers believe he's a guy that is a core

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>piece they can build around that they're trying to figure

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>out who's going to be along for this ride as

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>they go through the next chapter of Panthers football. And

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's gonna lead to some tough conversations. And

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think, Caroline, the earlier point you made

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>about Perry saying young guys versus trying to win games,

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like Perry doesn't have a choice. Perry's gotta when.

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Parry has got no guarantee who'll be here,

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is his opportunity. It's not like

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he can play the young guys, watch them develop, and

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>then suddenly they're like the fruits of that labor next year.

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Paris got no guarantee he'll be here. The entire coaching

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>staff is in that boat. So I mean, these guys

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>are trying to win games. From a player's standpoint, it's

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is the locker room and this is this is my

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>pun is does this team have any fuel left in

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the tank? And I don't. I don't. We're gonna find

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that question these next few weeks. But

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:15.719
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta and Perry came out and said this yesterday, Um,

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it was bad football. It was bad I mean this,

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and the score said this, you know, told story Um.

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's one thing to have a few leaders who

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>are still out there kind of busting their tail. But

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>this is a team game, and if you don't have

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>eleven guys doing it, it's gonna look like it did Sunday. Um.

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And so that's that's the situation this team is in.

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Is again Jerald McCoy talked about in the locker room,

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>not gonna tuck our tails. We're not gonna pack it in.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to move on to Seattle and we'll find out,

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll find out if this team is going

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>to continue to fight for Perry, for this coaching staff,

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and if they're gonna you know, snap this losing skit. Otherwise,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>this is looking, unfortunately, a lot like last year did

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>where it was, you know, a slide that never stopped. Um. Obviously,

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>they've had a tough challenge this week with a Seattle

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>team coming in that's playing for more than just pride. Yeah,

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my pun is fuel up the young guys. I'm on

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>this train of you have to see what the talent

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 1>on this team is made up of. But this doesn't

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean that you're trading out players. I'm on the

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>school of thought that I don't think Will Greer should

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>see a snap this season. I I think you would

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>open him up to failure if he's put in that situation.

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think Kyle is still a young guy. I

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>think he still has a lot of room where he

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can improve. He understands what this offense is trying to

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>do because he's been out there this season doing it.

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if I want to see Will

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Greer go in there and be put in this situation.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>So I think Kyle is in that young guy. I

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>still think the Curtis Samuel is in that young guy,

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and you saw him get a handoff earlier in game.

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I think those are the moments that I want to see,

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>not so much, you know, the zilstra is needing to

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>get in there, or these young practice squad guys. I

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see them pulled up and given a chance.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason that the guys that are on the

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>roster are on the roster. I want to see j

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Botafan maybe get more involved, maybe even see if there

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is a practice squad guy and maybe it's Allijah holy Field,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>to see what put you know, pull that guy up

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and see what he can do. But I think that's

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>what this team ask, did you over these next few weeks?

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>But that puts Perry fuel in this coaching staff in

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>an interesting dynamic of Perry even said it, If those

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>work out, they're all geniuses. If it doesn't work out,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>they're a terrible coaching staff, and that you know, he

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>said something along those lines in the press conference, and

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>he's right. But I almost what do you have to

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>lose at this point? If you're Perry fueling this coaching staff,

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>they're already on the hot seat. Normally, what happens with

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>coaching staffs. We know if the head coach goes, there's

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>many many to follow. So I think right now you

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>have to show that you can coach, and why not

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>get a young guy involved and show that you're willing

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to take the risk and and that you've coached him

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>up to be successful. That's why I want to see

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>in these last three games because of who you're playing too,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>it's Seattle. This is the game though that when we

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>looked at the last four games of this season, this

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>is the one we have no business winning, but for

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>some reason we might win. Like these these are the

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 1>games that completely shake up the NFL because They're all

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>talented players out there, it's just the team that's working

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the best together. This is the game that we have

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>no business. But I mean, look, they just a few

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago they were down in New Orleans and had

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that Saints teams on the ropes. My question that I'm gonna,

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm winning to see this team answer is it did

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that loss take it out of them? You know that

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that seemed like one of where it was like that

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was that just all of the air went out of

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the balloon in that one, just because of how gut

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>wrenching it was. Um, they haven't. They haven't been able

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote bounce back from that. And maybe they

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>will against Seattle and put together another really good performance

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>against a playoff bound team. But that Saints game and

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room afterwards, I think we said it

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show, it felt like a playoff loss, Like

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it felt like it it ended there because they had

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>given really everything. They had suffered some major injuries throughout

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the course of that game and to still come out

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>with a loss. Here we are a few weeks later

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and things have kind of gone downhill from there. So

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm waiting to see is there an uptick

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>coming or will that Saints game proved to have been

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the one that was kind of the nail in this

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>team's coffin. And I think a lot of has been

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>made of the you know, backed up on the seven,

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>send all your blitz and and you see saw what

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>happened there in Atlanta. But I think that type of

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>attitude is the attitude that this team has to have

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>going into the rest of this season, just because you

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that, and that that mindset of we can

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>get to this quarterback before he makes a play on

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>us is something I think this this is the the

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>over the fence moment for this team, if you and

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>get a couple of guys to do that. I think

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where Perry Fuel was saying. If we pull it off,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we're a genius. If it goes wrong, we're terrible. And

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's honestly, that was the most telling thing

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Perry Fuel has said so far is we're aware,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>we know we're talking in these meetings of how do

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>we make a moment in these last few weeks to

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>show what kind of coaching staff we are, the type

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of players that we think we have. Now that one

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>could not have gone worse for them. Yeah, that the play,

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the comments made after everything was terrible, But I think

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>those are the moments that I want to see this

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>team fuel up on moments like that, fuel up these

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>young guys, find some type of fire in these last

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>three weeks and win a game that you have no

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>business winning. I think there are two on the schedule

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that I don't really think you have any business winning.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I think number one is this weekend against the Seahawks,

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think the Saints, depending well, depending on what

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the Saints have to play there at that point to

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>play for it. But I think those are the two.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I get the logic behind what Perry did on that

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>play too. I mean he's trying something, trying to do

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>something to just give this team a spark and welcome

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>to being a head coach. I mean, play goes wrong

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>on you, you're gonna have to stand there and answer

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the questions about it and take the accountability. That was

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a call he made. It completely backfired. Um, But I understand,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think he should continue these next few weeks

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to try to do that for this team, try something

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to clear what what they what they've done clearly for

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the past five weeks now has not worked. So why

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>not try to inject something different into the equation. And

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>if it means being a little bit more aggressive in

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a situation, I don't I don't mind that aggressiveness, especially

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>right now. I think that way what that's what makes

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>this team potentially dangerous for a Seahawks team is they

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>can play that nothing to lose card in some respects

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and try something different and see if it catches Seattle

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>off guard. I also want to I want to see

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>them not only make those play calls, but then just

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have those moments where it feels like they're still enjoying

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>playing football that's been gone in Atlanta. Atlanta is what

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a four win team? There were three wins coming into

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>the game, and they're out there celebrating the they won

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. When their kicker recovers a fumble, Yeah,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was, you know, obviously like the ball

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>bounced to them. It felt like and it's been bouncing

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>away from the Panthers for weeks, it's felt like. But

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>it just feels you know, you want to just go

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>out there and it's backyard football. Yeah, and I want

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to beat the guy across from you and I think

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you you're you're in control of that to a certain degree,

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>right And I think in this league you kind of

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>make your own luck. I mean, Eric Reid drops an interception,

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Ian Thomas bobbles the ball that ends up being an interception.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you gotta make the plays. If you want

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to have fun playing the game, you've got to make

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the plays and get everybody excited around you. And instead

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of this team, it's been drops, and it's been blown assignments,

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's been miss blocks, and of course it's going

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to look kind of sad out there at times instead

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of what Atlanta was able to enjoy Sunday, which was

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>taking turns making plays. You gotta you gotta make them.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>And right now this team, I just rattled off a few,

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they're not so we need the fuel. Give us some

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>fuel injected into the veins of the Carolina Panthers for

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>these last few weeks, and give Matt some fuel to

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>stop losing stuff. Matt, we hope you enjoyed this podcast.

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>We will be back next week after hopefully talking about

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a game that even the the Panthers may not I'm

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>just feeling I don't know if it will be a

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>win but I feel like we will be still in

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter with something to play for a win,

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>not the playoffs, but a win. I just I just

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>have this weird feeling something has to turn for this team,

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and a team that has nothing to lose is a

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>dangerous team. That's what I feel like it's happening to

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers. They have nothing to lose. I think

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>when they got a new interim head coach, there was

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>still this sense of, oh, we can like prove that.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna play we heard it, We're gonna

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>play for wrong, We're gonna play for ourselves. That didn't work,

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so now they literally have nothing. Everyone is expecting them

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to go out, I believe, to go out and not

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have a good performance, and they're just gonna run through

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>these last three games and everyone's on and all these things.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the exact Unfortunately, that's the exact

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>motivation that some of these guys needed on this team.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Please prove me right, because I just feel like it's

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good one. I guess the Seahawks to

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys, don't look like you agree. Will has a

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>look on his face that just thinks you're an idiot.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're an idiot. You're an idiot. I

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>think I think Sunday will I think Sunday will tell

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 1>us some things. I think Sunday will tell us something

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's profound interesting. Guys, thanks for listening to the group chat.

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>We will be back next week. Wo