1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News, and. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: We're here with Jason Biekle. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: Jason, so good to have you here with us. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 4: Of course, head of Whole Foods, talk to us about 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 4: the panel that you participated in. It's all about the 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 4: future of food retail. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a great opportunity yesterday to participate in 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: a panel with some other industry leaders talking about where 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: food is going. 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: And for me, one of the most important areas for 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: us to. 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Think about is how do we protect our food systems 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: into the future and making sure that our future generations 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: can enjoy the products that we know and love today. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: And as Whole Foods market, you know, sounds kind of dire. Wow, 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: what do we need to protect? Are you're talking to 17 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: supply or quality or both? Yeah? 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: Both. 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: You know. 20 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: One of the things that we're currently in a situation 21 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: of is the nutrient density in our soil today is 22 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: not in a state to sustain itself for future generations. 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: So the products that we know and love are at 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: risk of not being available for future generations. And so 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: for us this Whole Foods market, one of the things 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: that's been very important since our very first store that 27 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: we opened in nineteen eighty is helping support the environment 28 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: and areas like regenitive agriculture, which is something really passionate 29 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: about today. Going back to our very roots, we led 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: the industry and organics, and what we want to do 31 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: is continue to make sure there's awareness for our consumers 32 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: that we have to protect our resources, to ensure that 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: our food systems are protected for future generations. 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: Did you know Jason was a farmer at the age 35 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: of seven, I believe doing gardens. 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: We started gardening, yeah, when I was seven, because then 37 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: you know a lot about a culture of generated vagapolchure. 38 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 5: You also know that trying to do that when a 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: national scale is hard, right, very difficult. 40 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: A lot more local, don't you, not necessarily just local. 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: But a big part of this is making sure that 42 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: we're doing the work to protect our soil and ensure 43 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: that it can support. 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: Regenitive into the future. 45 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: And one of the other things that I think is, 46 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, really challenging for customers is understanding the difference 47 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: of various clients friendly agricultural practices. 48 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 5: How are you doing that? Are you working with your suppliers, 49 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: you're working with the farmers, or are you going in 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: directly and doing this yourself. 51 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: So the reality is it takes an entire network of 53 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: stakeholders in this space to help support this work. First 54 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and foremosts we're working with our suppliers who are working 55 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: with their farmers to help support this work as we 56 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: let organics since our very first score. This is something 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: that's really part of our DNA being able to work 58 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: upstream and supporting processes that can help take these practices 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: into fruition. 60 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: It's interesting like organics, they're starting to mark things right 61 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: that I think regenerative farming. They're starting to let consumers 62 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: know that when they buy something that that's the way. 63 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: One of the things we have to ask you is 64 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: how is the consumer doing and what is once again 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: the consumer of whole foods. 66 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I think the consumer right now is wanting 67 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: a balance of quality and value, and that's something that 68 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: we've been really focused on as Fool Food's market. One 69 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: of the things that we're really proud of is the 70 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: work we've done testing in our price points so we 71 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: can be accessible to all customers. Since being part of Amazon, 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: this has been a key initiative for us to help 73 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: improve our price points. Recently, we've done a lot of 74 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: work and helping also amp up the number of promotions 75 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: that we're doing. 76 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: We know customers right now are looking for value, so 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: we've increased our number of promotions. 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: We made investments in areas like our opening price point 79 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: and like our three sixty five items, so customers have 80 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for value and quality at the same time. 81 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 5: We talk about the private label, the three sixty five, 82 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: that's been a big initiative and bringing kind of that 83 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: average price point down in the source. 84 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 85 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so for us, this has been a key way 86 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: to connect with customers. We've continued to expand the number 87 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: of items across all different parts of our store and 88 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: also providing choice. So we have three sixty five where 89 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: you can have a conventional product as well as three 90 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: sixty five organic, so giving customers choice and options along 91 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: the way. 92 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: How much has three sixty five grown as a business 93 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: and how does that relate back to demand that that's 94 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: where you know, you guys great offerings, lots of different offerings. 95 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: But I'm curiously about the three sixty fiber and it's 96 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: been around now for a while. 97 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely and for so many customers it's one 98 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: of the key reasons they come to Whole Foods Market. 99 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: It's a great price point, great quality. 100 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: How much has I grown though as a business. 101 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't share publicly the a lot. It has 102 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: grown a lot. And what's great is it's grown not 103 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: just in store. 104 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: It's available for delivery, it's available for pickup, and just 105 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: last year, we've made it available on Amazon comm to 106 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: have these items shipped directly to your home. So anyone 107 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: in the United States right now can actually order a 108 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: three sixty five from products from Amazon dot Com. 109 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: I want to talk about the format of the stores. 110 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: You obviously have a lot of traditional supermarket type size stores, 111 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: but you're also been experimenting with smaller format stores, particularly 112 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: in urban areas like New York City. Is the cost 113 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: benefit of those smaller stores is that commensurate with what 114 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: you would get for a larger source, say out in 115 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 5: the suburbs. 116 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 117 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: So we'll be opening our very first full Foods Market 118 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: daily shop store later this year in Manhattan, and we're 119 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: really excited about this because it provides a win win 120 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: for both the customer. 121 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: As well as Whole Food's Market. 122 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Ultimately, we're at a point right now where some markets 123 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: are so saturated. 124 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: It's very difficult to put an entire four store. This 125 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: doesn't support it. 126 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't support it, and so ultimately customers are looking 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: to still shop at Whole Foods, but it may not 128 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: be convenient to go, you know, ten or fifteen blocks 129 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: away if you're in Manhattan, per se. 130 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: But if we can. 131 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Drop some of these smaller format stores, it'll help support 132 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: a fill in shop for our customers. And so if 133 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: you're looking for some quick grabbing go items or just 134 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: need a few items, we'll be. 135 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: Able to pop in one of these stores. If you 136 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: want to do a full shop, you could as well. 137 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: At the same time, you can go to one of 138 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: our flagship locations as well, like Columbus Circle and get 139 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: the full shopping ex Well. 140 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: That's what I'm curious. 141 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: So for folks who go to those small format if 142 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: you're used to going to the big format stores, you 143 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: go into the small one and you see it's less 144 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: selection here. How do you sort of thread that needle 145 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 5: and make sure that the perception of what that customer 146 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: has seen in that small format store is just an 147 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: extension of the broader brand and not something on of 148 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 5: itself all together. 149 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: Well, the most important part is we still carry all 150 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: the different categories you're going to find at Hopewood's Market. 151 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: There's just going to be less of the selection and 152 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: so instead of having thirty different olive oils to choose 153 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: from or different items, it'll be a curated selection. 154 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: So customers can still get all the. 155 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Basics needs that they have and at the same time 156 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: they can get in get out quick and they having 157 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot of grab and go options I think are 158 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: going to be great for customers who are looking either 159 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: for fill in trips or they just need to have 160 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: an item on the go to eat right now. 161 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: One last question we'd be remiss what to not ask 162 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: what it's like. 163 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: To be part of Amazon. 164 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: Do you meet with Andy Jasse, the CEO of Amazon, 165 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: on a regular basis? 166 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: I personally don't meet with them one and one on 167 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: a regular basis. We did have lunch recently, but we 168 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: do meet as a team on a pretty regular basis 169 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: with Amazon leadership to look over business results and future plans. 170 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: And it's been great to be part of Amazon. 171 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: One of the things that we're really part of is 172 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: being part of Amazon's worldwide grocery team. Our aim is 173 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: to have the very best grocery business across the world. 174 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: And so what's great for us is we're able to 175 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: leverage some of the very best of Amazon and some 176 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: of the technology, and we as Whole Foods, can help 177 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: provide opportunities for how we can help Amazon in the 178 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: areas like perishables and helping support Amazon Fresh and so 179 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of great ways for us to work 180 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: together and it's just been outstanding. 181 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: Jason, thank you so much for your time today. We've 182 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: been really appreciate it. Thanks for having me