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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by FANDU. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Chris Raybon, and this is your NFC twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three season betting preview, Part one.

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Speaker 2: In this episode, we'll be previewing the.

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Speaker 1: NFC East and the NFC South. We're looking at their

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Speaker 1: wind totals, any other futures we like. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: checked out our AFC pods, those are already up right now,

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Speaker 1: so be sure to get of those listen as well.

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Speaker 1: And of course here to break down the NFC East

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Speaker 1: the NFC South with me the Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation,

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Speaker 1: Stucky stuck.

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 3: It's up, brother, nice talking AFC and the powerful conference

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Speaker 3: that it is. And I'm gonna enjoy talking about the

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Speaker 3: wide open NFC. It's oh Yeah, definitely an intriguing conference

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Speaker 3: with especially the NFC South, which we'll talk about today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to talk about the South.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the East and then we'll do

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Speaker 1: the South. Second, I also have a piece up on

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Speaker 1: an action network dot com right now previewing the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Got a future I freached team and just kind of

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on the networks. If you want to go deeper,

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Speaker 1: be sure to check that out as well. But let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Philadelphia Eagles. The wind total on FanDuel

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Speaker 1: eleven and a half juice to the under at minus

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Speaker 1: one twenty eight. I think the first thing you know

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Speaker 1: with the Eagle, and just to know kind of with

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Speaker 1: these big numbers, is that double digit win totals going

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Speaker 1: back to two thousand and two hit about forty four

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Speaker 1: a team like this, history's already against you.

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Speaker 2: So you really got to be careful and pick your spots.

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Speaker 1: That being said, your thoughts on this Eagle team, you know,

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Speaker 1: losing both coordinators. Still still love the roster construction, but

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Speaker 1: you know, lost some linebackers, lost some coordinators from safeties.

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Speaker 3: What are you thinking, yeah, the Eagles are obviously one

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Speaker 3: of the top dogs in the NFC, but the NFL

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Speaker 3: is a funny place. The last so that these lost

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Speaker 3: third three games last year, that was it. The previous

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Speaker 3: two times that they lost three games two thousand and

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Speaker 3: four when they lost the Super Bowl. The next year

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Speaker 3: they finished six and ten. McNabb was a asked. McNabb

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Speaker 3: was unbelievable the year before, and then in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 3: nine and seven. They obviously went fourteen and three last

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Speaker 3: lot three games major regression. Now, obviously it's just a

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Speaker 3: you that things sometimes just don't go as you think

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Speaker 3: there's some injury regression on the offense, which was really

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Speaker 3: healthy last year, the whole team really And yes, there's

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Speaker 3: certainly some questions on defense, especially up the middle and

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Speaker 3: you have some new coordinators, so there's definitely some questions.

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Speaker 3: The corps is still really good. The offensive line. Hurts

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Speaker 3: really did take a step forward. If you just look

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what we're asking about Hurts like it's

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Speaker 3: just throwing accuracy, his pocket presence. He answered all those

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Speaker 3: in a losing effort. But when you look at the

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Speaker 3: This year it's obviously much more tougher. They won their division,

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Speaker 3: let's just start it there. It should be a win.

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Speaker 3: one of the hardest stretches I've ever seen. And it's

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Speaker 3: pretty crazy that that's you know, an NFC team this

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Speaker 3: So I think that and hey, guess what, they have

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Speaker 3: a first place schedule. You No, what do I always

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Speaker 3: say every year, Chris in the NFC East never.

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Speaker 2: Repeat Winno since two thousand and four, maybe.

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Speaker 3: no team has repeated in as division champions in the

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Speaker 3: on that we'll get to. But yeah, there's certainly some questions,

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Speaker 3: but there's no doubt the Eagles are one of, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They're a fascinating team for me because Number one,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, like, give give Howie some credit,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna be hard to kind of

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Speaker 3: Of that just aggression, like if you get those Bowl yep,

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Speaker 3: like just natural aggression. A lot of things went right,

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Speaker 3: so the next year, you know, you could have bad turnover,

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Speaker 3: that twenty two thousand and five season, for example, lost.

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Speaker 3: He was bad, he was worse, and then he tores

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Speaker 1: So you're you know, injury luck is a big is

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Speaker 1: lot of things went right in a lot of different areas.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I do think there is an interesting

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Speaker 1: It's not doing anything with their wins either way, because

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Speaker 1: But I do think their schedule is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: they want to have Hurts throw the ball a little more.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be just a tougher go. Hurts

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Speaker 1: So I actually like Jalen.

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Speaker 2: Hurts for an MVP future this year.

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Speaker 1: He's on that short list of quarterbacks for me that

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Speaker 2: And when you look at you Cam Newton and Lamar.

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Speaker 1: know would have to have a similar type of season

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Speaker 1: that those guys did in their MVP seasons was passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Lamar had thirty six in twenty nineteen. Hurts only had

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Speaker 1: MVP for Hurts and believe it's at twelve to one,

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Speaker 1: I bet about nine or ten to one, honestly, But

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Speaker 1: the schedule's gonna be harder. You're gonna have to throw more.

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Speaker 1: that that Tush push is still pretty unstoppable. I still

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Speaker 1: we could see a big another step forward in in

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Speaker 1: his passing numbers because now you're you're finally adding a

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Speaker 2: Uh, you're gonna have a tougher schedule.

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Speaker 1: Just more is gonna be asta Hurts, And it kind

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Speaker 1: of it's kind of reminiscent of that Super Bowl where

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Speaker 1: you saw Hurts put up the big passing numbers and

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Speaker 1: that stretch that you mentioned Dallas by at Kansas City, Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: Even though they dominate the Giants last year.

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Speaker 1: But you know, overall, I just think Philly is gonna

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Speaker 1: have to throw a little more, both by choice and

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Speaker 1: because of a harder schedule. So if Hurts keeps taking

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Speaker 1: step forward, I think he's gonna be in solid position.

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred yards and fifty touchdowns or forty five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate the logic. I had similar logic

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Speaker 3: make sure there's always you shop around. Their wind totals

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Speaker 3: And instead of going under on the Eagles, I think,

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Speaker 3: I think that the Cowboys in order to win this division,

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Speaker 3: division with ten wins, right, Like, there's always that in

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Speaker 3: let's start with the Cowboys. Yes, I like what they

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Speaker 3: much he has left the tech. I can't believe he's

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Speaker 3: I am a you know, there was the whole McCarthy's

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Speaker 3: I mean, people change for the better and for the worse.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn's changed for the better. Maybe McCarthy's changed for

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Speaker 3: with some turnovers. The past years. I think those two

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Speaker 3: a problem. How I don't know if Tristan vis Guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who their starting kickers as of right now.

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Speaker 1: It's Brandon Aubrey. Do you know when he started playing

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Speaker 3: Last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he was a soccer player in college, soccer

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Speaker 3: So it's a better option than vis Guy. An know who,

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Speaker 3: my god, that's definitely happening. Kicker is a question, Like

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Speaker 3: with the Cowboys. But I like this roster. I think

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Speaker 3: it's value plus one nine you to win the division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so surprised.

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Speaker 1: it's just I'm just so used to them being such

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Speaker 1: But to put it in perspective, just how good the

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Speaker 1: Last year, you flipped their two overtime losses to wins.

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Speaker 2: We know that's how you know one score games can

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Speaker 1: Uh they be fourteen and three, just like the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: But it's a very intriguing team.

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Speaker 1: And I think in the NFC, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: And you know, the Eagles we.

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Speaker 1: And you know, just I think this Cowboy team, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott is being a little slept on everyone.

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Speaker 3: and drinking a beer. I don't know what that has

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Speaker 2: Seven and a half. The win total.

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Speaker 1: You know, I look, I look at this roster on paper,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, eh, eh, and then I think back

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Speaker 1: to how good Dabo is and that it's year two,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's things that I'm not even factoring

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Speaker 1: in that they're gonna kind of, you know, whip out

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Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, scheme and game plan things

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 2: I do like Jalin Hyatt. I like the Waller edition.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite at the level of let's say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Hurt's getting a j Brown or Alan getting

478
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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 2: But I do think we might be underrating Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: At least I might be, or I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: we saw him kind of play in different styles of

483
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Speaker 1: offense and have success, you know, as a rookie he

484
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Speaker 1: threw all these touchdowns, was more of a high volume guy,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of three hundred yard games, a bunch of

486
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Speaker 1: four or five touchdown games. Then he became this lower

487
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Speaker 1: volume guy, cut down on the turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 1: They really didn't drop back or throw deep at all.

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Speaker 1: And I just think there's a there is a lot

491
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Speaker 1: of room to grow for this pass offense, which is

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Speaker 1: why it's pretty crazy that they had one good lineman,

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Speaker 1: one good skill player, a quarterback who everyone pretty much

494
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Speaker 1: thought it was a bust, and they finished tenth in

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Speaker 1: DV away on offense last year.

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Speaker 2: So this team is it's it's it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to to kind of handicap.

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Speaker 1: But and I also think the defense is probably they

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Speaker 1: have some unsung guys and some rookies that are gonna

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Speaker 1: start in the secondary, but I think the defense might

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Speaker 1: be a little better. So it's like when I look

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Speaker 1: at the roster on paper, at first, I'm not really

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Speaker 1: that enthused, but then when I start thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: I think this is one of those teams where, just

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Speaker 1: like Synergy, I think the the parts is better than

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Speaker 1: the individuals.

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Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on this Giant team?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the Giants win total under

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Speaker 3: will be a quote unquote sharp under that I can

510
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Speaker 3: see that being the case. They were lucky last year.

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Speaker 3: You look at the roster, Daniel Jones bla blah blah,

512
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Speaker 3: don't I don't personally see it. I project them at

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Speaker 3: seven point six wins. They're you know, yes they were

514
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Speaker 3: lucky last year in one possession games. But Dable is

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Speaker 3: the af I feel like he's gonna be the AFC

516
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Speaker 3: version of Vrabel, Dable and Vrabel. He's every year we're

517
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Speaker 3: gonna look back and say, oh, look, his team's for

518
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Speaker 3: the most part, overperformed, and they were good in one

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Speaker 3: session games, in close games, and he's gonna get the

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Speaker 3: most out of a roster that doesn't look as good

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Speaker 3: as the record should indicate. I feel like that's just

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Speaker 3: going to be the case. And yes, they were lucky

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Speaker 3: in one session games, but they also had a lot

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Speaker 3: of injuries at wide receiver, you know, they even some

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Speaker 3: in the secondary, and then their offensive line was a mess.

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Speaker 3: And he's still got the most out of Jones. Now

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Speaker 3: it's a league of adjustments. We're gonna see what the

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Speaker 3: lead does to adjust to what that offense looked like.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing jums out of the lowest interception rate the

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Speaker 3: entire league, which is pretty wild. So you know, rolling

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Speaker 3: him out, making him focus on just like one part

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Speaker 3: of the field, you know, really cut down his turnovers

533
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Speaker 3: and fumbles too. But you know, the lead's going to adjust.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what what Gable will counter with and

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Speaker 3: what wrinkles he will add. But there is some hope

536
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Speaker 3: for this roster, which was left in just absolute shambles

537
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Speaker 3: by previous management. Uh So, like, here's here's what you hope.

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Speaker 3: They have a really good left tackle now, one of

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Speaker 3: the best in the league. If you dig down to

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Speaker 3: the underlying metrics, now you hope that Neil at right

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Speaker 3: tackle takes a step forward. Was up and down in

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Speaker 3: his rookie year, but he was a rookie. And then

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Speaker 3: you drafted a big time mall or rookie at center

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Speaker 3: in Schmidt's from Minnesota. So like, your offensive line has

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Speaker 3: some more potential now with a bookend at left tackle.

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Speaker 3: And on defense, there's still questions in the secondary. But

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Speaker 3: if Banks their cornerback that they drafted, one of the

548
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Speaker 3: easiest ways that you can make a big jump in

549
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Speaker 3: today's NFL is finding a corner, a young corner who hits.

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Speaker 3: We saw it in Seattle, and we saw it right

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Speaker 3: across the street with the Jets last year. So all

552
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, if you have a healthy when Dory

553
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Speaker 3: Jackson's healthy, I love them, and then you have a

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Speaker 3: rookie that hits, then all of a sudden, your defense

555
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Speaker 3: can be significantly better. I think they added some reinforcements

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Speaker 3: to help with the run defense as well, So there

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Speaker 3: is some potential with this roster, I project seven point

558
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Speaker 3: six wins regardless, and I trust Dable, I trust this

559
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Speaker 3: staff regardless. I do think they're headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: You know you mentioned Alsin Waller could help as well.

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Speaker 3: It could be a perfect fit in this offense if

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Speaker 3: he stays healthy. I don't think that the ceiling is

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Speaker 3: that high where they could you know, in a week NFC.

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Speaker 3: I guess if they get in anything happen, But I

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Speaker 3: don't think that they could get to like eleven twelve

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Speaker 3: wins with this roster and which you might need to

567
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Speaker 3: win this division. So I have no interest in plus

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Speaker 3: eight fifty to win the division. I project them right

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Speaker 3: at seven and a half. Not a guy that I

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Speaker 3: want to fade. I mean last year I faded Rabel

571
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Speaker 3: for like the second straight year, and I hated it

572
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Speaker 3: and luckily I hit because everyone got hurt. And so

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get in the habit of fading Dable.

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Speaker 3: So this is right on for me. No play on

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Speaker 3: the Giants. Will definitely look to back them as a

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Speaker 3: dog though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dable has a you know, obviously only one year,

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Speaker 1: but still has that winning record as an underdog straight

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Speaker 1: up believe at six five and one. Like you said

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Speaker 1: another Vabel, I do think there's an outside shot this

581
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Speaker 1: team could win eleven twelve games, because I do think

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Speaker 1: there is there's a a lot of like in a

583
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Speaker 1: lot of areas where I think, like you said, Sharps

584
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Speaker 1: are probably gonna have, you know, all their ratings for

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Speaker 1: all the different units and probably give them Like I've

586
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Speaker 1: seen the Giants bottom five ozho on you know they

587
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Speaker 1: were what were they twenty ninth and defensive DVOA. Probably

588
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Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't gonna have them much higher.

589
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Speaker 1: But you mentioned the secondary, so I know this. Banks

590
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Speaker 1: and Hawkins their sixth round pick. So Banks was their

591
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Hawkins was their sixth round pick. Out

592
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Speaker 1: of old dominion, I believe it was. It is those

593
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Speaker 1: two guys have had such a good camp. And when

594
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Speaker 1: I hear guys like on the Giants teams like that Titans,

595
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Speaker 1: Giants good coaching. Like when I hear you know, all

596
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Speaker 1: the coaches love these guys are having a good camp,

597
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Speaker 1: I take it a little more seriously just because I

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Speaker 1: respect the coaching staffs as it is, and I know,

599
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Speaker 1: like a team like this, like we know it's a

600
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Speaker 1: merit based system, like we saw that last year with

601
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers and whatnot. But these guys have had

602
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Speaker 1: incredible camps. So they're gonna start Banks and Hawkins on

603
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Speaker 1: the perimeter and move adri Jackson to the slot. Now

604
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna look at that and say, oh,

605
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: giants starting two rocky corners and probably downgrade them. But

606
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Speaker 1: like I said, these guys have been so good that

607
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Speaker 1: there is a at least fair chance that they can

608
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Speaker 1: carry that over into the regular season.

609
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Speaker 2: That changes their defense a lot.

610
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Speaker 1: Like if Banks, even even if Hawkins is just eh,

611
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Speaker 1: we know Jackson's good. If Banks can you know, play

612
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Speaker 1: anything like he has in camp and live up to

613
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Speaker 1: that pedigree this year instead of it taking a year,

614
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Speaker 1: you still have Williams and Thibodeau and Lawrence on the

615
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Speaker 1: on the line, uh, finally have like at least one

616
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Speaker 1: decent linebacker and Bobby Acara Kay, and your safety situation

617
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Speaker 1: should be pretty solid too, because Pennock is another guy

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Speaker 1: who was I think it was a fifth round pick

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, not really a heralded guy,

620
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Speaker 1: but he's another guy been having a really great camp

621
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Speaker 1: Like this team, This defense could go from bottom five

622
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Speaker 1: DVOA to having plus starters at seven, eight, maybe even

623
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Speaker 1: nine positions. So that's how I kind of see this

624
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Speaker 1: team overperforming.

625
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Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. I haven't bet anything on them.

626
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Speaker 1: I do think there's a part of me that says

627
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Speaker 1: this team could be better than last year, and just

628
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Speaker 1: because of how tough the schedule is still take a

629
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Speaker 1: step back. You know, they go to San Francisco, they

630
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Speaker 1: go to Buffalo, those two I mean, obviously the two

631
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Speaker 1: games against the Eagles standout, Dallas two games, you know,

632
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Speaker 1: So it's a tough schedule, going to Miami early in

633
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Speaker 1: the year when it's price still hot. So there are

634
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Speaker 1: there are quite a few tough games. But this is

635
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Speaker 1: also a team that I think could win a lot

636
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Speaker 1: of games as the underdog.

637
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Speaker 2: But I do I do.

638
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Speaker 1: I do think there might be maybe early in this season,

639
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Speaker 1: especially some value on the Giants because I think this

640
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: defense could take a big jump twenty ninth in DVOA

641
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Speaker 1: and it could it could at least be an average defense,

642
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, and defense is there's a lot of randomness.

643
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Speaker 2: With that anyway year to year.

644
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's just kind of how I'm looking at it,

645
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Speaker 1: and just some of the strip like you said, Daniel Jones.

646
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Speaker 1: He also played the perfect game against Minnesota, Like, I

647
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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a quarterback play like I

648
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Speaker 1: mean I have, but it's been very rare that I've

649
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Speaker 1: seen a quarterback play that good a game. I just

650
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: feel like, like you said, don't want to fade this team.

651
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll maybe I'll just get on the win total.

652
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of leading over the more. I kind of

653
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: dig deep into it because there's about six or seven

654
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: really tough games, but I think the rest are winnable.

655
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think it's hard for me to

656
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: see this offense like in order to win eleven or

657
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: twelve games, Like how good can you be in close

658
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: games to win that many? Like because it's they're gonna

659
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: be in close games right like that. I just don't

660
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: see them being this explosive offense that can put teams

661
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: away and the play Devil's advocate on the defense, look

662
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: and as Davil this week he said, look a door.

663
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: He's played inside when we match, so like he's obviously

664
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: has played. It didn't look great limited snapcount against the Panthers,

665
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: I believe when he was in the slot, but you know,

666
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: it's a position he's moving right, so he's moving to

667
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: a new position and where you know, you know he's

668
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: good on the outside, and now you're putting two rookies

669
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: on the outside. Number one. That's always a question in

670
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: Wig Martindale's defense, where that you gotta be. You're on

671
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: islands and he's bringing everyone. So I think that they

672
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: do fit what he looks for in corners in his

673
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: like just build wise and skill set wise and length

674
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: and so Hawkins in particular is like a perfect fit.

675
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: But they're so young, and like in a Martindale defense,

676
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: you're asked so much as the corner. Then you're moving

677
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: so like it could be really ugly. Maybe good for

678
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: the future, but again there's all this is what makes

679
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: them interesting from a defensive perspective. If they hit all

680
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you got two really good and Jackson inside,

681
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: then your defense can go. The Jets went from bottom

682
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: five the top five because of the corner hit, So

683
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: it definitely could make for a much improved defense. And

684
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: we could say the same thing about the last in

685
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: the NFC East with another rookie corner.

686
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: Yep, and that and that is really I think the

687
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: only way Washington competes like they have to get somebody

688
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: has to hit because on that defense, because as it

689
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: stands right now for Washington, I have them outmatched that

690
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: quarterback in all but two or three games, and even

691
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: though they had a top ten defense, and I have

692
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for their defense.

693
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Love Cam Currow safety. I love that front.

694
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: You know, even without Chase Young, it's still a great front,

695
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: well like fuller. But they still need one more at

696
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: least one more piece in that secondary because you know,

697
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: having two solid safeties or one really good one and

698
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: one good corner, you know, it's still there's a reason

699
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: why corner is the premium position in safety, isn't. The

700
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: good offenses are still gonna find ways to attack your weaknesses.

701
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: And the linebackers, uh, you know aren't aren't great in

702
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: coverage either, So there's gonna be ways to attack this,

703
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: this this Washington defense. But if Forbes hits and and

704
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: and Johnson, is he hurt? Did he I got body

705
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: slammed by Mark Andrews. Maybe he's just hurt. But he

706
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: had a pretty good end of the year too, in

707
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: like a limited role too. So I mean, if they

708
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: can just get a second corner to play well opposite Fuller,

709
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: which they really haven't had. The defense should be good,

710
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: but I just I'm just not there with the offense.

711
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: I think Sam Howe is gonna make a lot of mistakes.

712
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't necessarily think he's gonna be like terrible,

713
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna make a lot of mistakes.

714
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna be passed every year. And

715
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: I still don't like the old line. I like Dotson,

716
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I like McLaurin, but I just see a I just

717
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: see in a really tough division with a really brutal schedule.

718
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I just see them being a little to mistake run

719
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: on offense and not not quite enough on defense too. Like,

720
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: even if Forbes hits, I would still have them as

721
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: the inferior defense in like eight or nine of their games,

722
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: so that his schedules is brutal. I think that's really

723
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: what it comes down to me.

724
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: For Washington, I disagree with that. If Forbes hits, Yeah,

725
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: if Forbes hits, then this potentially could be a top

726
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: five defense. Now that's a big f because you're asking

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 3: a rookie who I like the Mississippi State, but you're

728
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: you're talking about one of the best, you know, defensive

729
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 3: line combos in all of the NFL. And I mean,

730
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it is Chase Young, a Shack Leonard

731
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: bro I don't even I mean, you're still limited. I

732
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: don't know. But if you added a Chase Young, we

733
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: don't know what we can expect now to that defensive line.

734
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: And you mentioned I really like their safeties. I also

735
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: think that Saint Juice can be a good slot corner.

736
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: This is a guy who's been just he never gets

737
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: as much respect to it. He was even at Michigan,

738
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: got absolutely fucked over by Harball and that staff they

739
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: like made him sign a waiver to go get help

740
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: on his hamstring. He said, hey, sign this paper and

741
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: you can go get help here outside of and get

742
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: the best help. And he signed it and he basically lost,

743
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: gave away a scholarship. Then he had a transfer to Minnesota.

744
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: He can get read about it. But and then he's

745
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: been like moved all over from the inside to the outside,

746
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: and now he has like his defined role and I

747
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: really like his skill set. I think he can be

748
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: a really good slot corner. Doesn't get enough respect, so

749
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: like and then you know you have fuller there, so

750
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: like that miss. It's just that missing piece that if

751
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 3: forbest d it is so big for that defense when

752
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: you already have a really good defensive line and good

753
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: safeties that it could Yeah, it could take them to

754
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: the next level. And that's the beauty of getting a

755
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: first round corner. If they do hit now, it's still

756
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: definitely asking a lot. We talked about a lot of

757
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: the first round corners who have hit and helped their defenses,

758
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: but there's just as many examples where it doesn't work

759
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: out right, especially right away the offense. Yeah, I agree,

760
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: we'll see what maybe, Like if you could talk yourself

761
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: into Forbes hitting and how is we haven't seen a

762
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: ton of how so we don't make so there's more

763
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 3: variance there. Yeah, maybe you take a flyer in eighteen

764
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 3: to one to win the division and there's some injuries

765
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: to other teams, maybe I could see it. I don't

766
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: think the offense is there yet, even though you have

767
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: two really good receivers. The offensive line is definitely a

768
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: question mark with a very young quarterback. You're moving a

769
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: lot of different pieces around, like to new positions too,

770
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: on that offensive line, and then what really I project

771
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: them on like six point eight wins. I think their

772
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: win total adjusted for juices like six point three. The

773
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: thing that you know, kind of put me off of

774
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: being a potential buyer, maybe even looking for a flyer,

775
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: is when I look at their schedule, right, young quarterback,

776
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: questionable offensive line. I don't like all their road games,

777
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: like so, for example, they get the Bills at home,

778
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: and then they have to go to New England, right like,

779
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: things like that, Like you would much rather.

780
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Philly they got to the Bills at home movie three

781
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: than at Philly.

782
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying, like for the other divisions, Oh so,

783
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: like you would much rather go to Buffalo. You're probably

784
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: gonna lose that game no matter what, right then, and

785
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: then you want to get the Patriots at home, right,

786
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 3: a more winnable game, and then get that game at home,

787
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: so you know, and then you also get the Dolphins

788
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: at home. I think you would rather, in my opinion,

789
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: get the Jets at home. You get the forty nine

790
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: ers at home and have to go to the Rams,

791
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: right like things like that. So I the way that

792
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 3: their schedule broke just from the home road and this

793
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: and the other divisions that they play for a young

794
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: quarterback who's probably gonna play better at home this year

795
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: with a you know, questionable offensive line. I don't like that, right,

796
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: So like going out to LA instead of going out

797
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: to San Franz, you know you're gonna lose, and then

798
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: you get the Rams at home. Right, going out to

799
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: the Rams, it's not a gimme, but be a much

800
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: better game if you have them at home. So it's

801
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 3: a pass for me on Washington. But some intriguing pieces

802
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: to watch.

803
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just when I look at the schedule, I

804
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: just struggle to see where they're getting these wins, even

805
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: because like even some of the games where you know,

806
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: like you're going to Denver in week two, now, if

807
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: everything breaks right, you know that's a game you know

808
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna be too far off power rating wise.

809
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: But like I don't want I don't want a team with.

810
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: A good defense face going on the road facing like

811
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: a Denver at New England.

812
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Like these there's like all these there's just like.

813
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Similar teams to Washington where they don't really have an

814
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: edge even with this defense, like if they if they

815
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: don't beat out.

816
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The schedule didn't break right, like

817
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: they got all of the games that they could have

818
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: if they got them at home and then got the

819
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: tougher opponents on the road, which they were gonna lose anyway,

820
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: I would like to schedule so much more so they

821
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: just they just got a shitty break. And yeah, going

822
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: to Denver like you do, get the Cardinals at home

823
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: in week one with no Mary, so like good, but

824
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna beat the Cardinals anyway, that was a

825
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: rogan that you probably could win. The going to the

826
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: Broncos week two, that's the worst time to go to

827
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: Denver too, And like the you look historically the Broncos

828
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: against the spread in the first two weeks with that

829
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: altitude and other teams aren't necessarily in full shape yet

830
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: that's that's tough to go there then. So yeah, I

831
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 3: don't like the way the schedule rode for Washington.

832
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they if they don't beat all right, they

833
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: have Arizona week one, Chicago at home in week five,

834
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: that's if they don't win that game, you know, they

835
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta.

836
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: We like Atlanta.

837
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Uh, they could realistically start one and twelve heading into

838
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: the buy because you got they.

839
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: Will we want it will.

840
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: But but I mean if there's there's only like a

841
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: short list of teams that I could see trophy.

842
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. And I feel like Washington is.

843
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Definitely on that short list of team that I can

844
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: see blowing a game with the car Like.

845
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: So we had going up?

846
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: Do we have them going on in seventeen thiss sole Now?

847
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

848
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: They end at Jets versus San Francisco versus Dallas, So

849
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean if they start poorly, I mean like there,

850
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: this is like the floor in this team is still

851
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: like two and fifteen, which is not I mean, and

852
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: I just don't see the ceiling like their window of

853
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: six and a half that's around I'm having a little

854
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: lower like six one, but I think the floor is

855
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: like two, whereas I don't think the ceiling is ten.

856
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of where I'm at. Washington.

857
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: What is uh work? What's let me pull up a

858
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: worst record?

859
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can bet on that, and like last team

860
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: to win a game if they didn't, if they didn't start.

861
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: With own is Washington is plus eleven hundred to have

862
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: the worst record. The Arizona is the obvious favorite. I

863
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: think that they are actively seeking it too. The one

864
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: thing that hurts. That bet for you is the backup

865
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907
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: The Saints. Nine and a half is the win total.

908
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: The best thing I think the Saints have going for

909
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: them this year is a schedule like it is up

910
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: and down. Every game is winnable. They're too tough. They

911
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: only play two division winners projected division winners, sorry, and

912
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: the Lions.

913
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: They play at home in Week thirteen.

914
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: And they play the Jaguars in.

915
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: So my power ratings, I have them, you know, like

916
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: most two rating teams rated above average, right, like like

917
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 3: if you're a plus one, you're rated one point above

918
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: a neutral team on I mean a average team on

919
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 3: a neutral field. So if I take the only two

920
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: teams on the entire schedule that are above average are

921
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: the Jaguars as you mentioned, and the Lions. They play

922
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 3: both of them at home. If I incorporate home field

923
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: and it just subtracts that from the power rating of

924
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: the opponent to get the spread, then they know I

925
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 3: do have them as underdogs on the road, and I think,

926
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: let's see three games, but they basically don't play anyone

927
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: that's above average for my power ratings when you incorporate

928
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: home field, event, like, that's insane. Two teams just in general,

929
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: two teams that I have rated above average on their

930
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: entire schedule, and it's not like they're upper echelon teams.

931
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: It's the Jags and the Lines teams that aren't way

932
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: above average. So yeah, this is since I've been doing this,

933
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 3: the easiest schedule for my easiest schedule, strength of schedule

934
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: rating that I've ever seen.

935
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: Nope, And all that being said, still still bears trying

936
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: the Saints this year. I still think. I just think

937
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: it's I think almost all of their rating is coming

938
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: from the schedule. And I think we've had these arguments before,

939
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: like when it's like, well, the Jaguars have the easies

940
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: schedule because they play the Colts, and the Coats have

941
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: the second used schedule because they play the Dagars or

942
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: something like.

943
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: It's like it's something's got to give somewhere, you know.

944
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: You know, there's the second easiest schedule since I've been

945
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: doing this. Who the Falcons?

946
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, just to get to that, but let

947
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: me because like, man, there are two teams in this

948
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: division that I really hate, and and one of them

949
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: is not the Bucks, and you know all of the Falcons,

950
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: So you know which two teams you can put that together?

951
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: It's two teams that I really think have a lot

952
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: more downside and a lot more kind of underlying risks

953
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: and things that could go wrong, because every team has

954
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: things that could go wrong, things that could go right.

955
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: Luck that's gonna even out whatnot. But for the Saints,

956
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: first thing, Derek Carr. If the Saints are gonna exceed expectations,

957
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: meat expectations, whatever, they're gonna need a quarterback to play

958
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: reasonably well.

959
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: Still.

960
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: You know, Derek Carr has just never been good. And

961
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: maybe things could change, but he's just never been good

962
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: in his first year in a new scheme. It's happened

963
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: four other times in his career. He's been in year

964
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: one of a new scheme, and it's the four worst

965
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: seasons of his career in terms of passer rating, pretty

966
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: much every yards per temp, completion rate, every efficiency metric

967
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: you could you could think of, Derek Carr has had

968
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: his four worst statistical career years in the four four

969
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: years with new with you know, in his first year.

970
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: With the scheme, he's gone.

971
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: He and and you know, part of this is obviously

972
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: just the Raider defense. But that's why this the numbers

973
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: are so crazy to me, is that in the four

974
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: years when he's in a year one of a new scheme,

975
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: he just hasn't won games. Like he's been a pretty

976
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: average mediocre quarterback. When he's not in year one, he's

977
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: gone forty one and thirty nine, so fifty one percent

978
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: straight up. But in those four seasons when he's in

979
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: year one of a new scheme, twenty two and forty

980
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: just thirty five percent. I mentioned, you know all the numbers.

981
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: His accuracy has adjusted accuracy, you know, when you adjust

982
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: for drops and you remove throwaways, all that stuff been

983
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: declining for three straight years. Last year it was UH

984
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: thirty fifth out of forty one qualifiers at PFF. The

985
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: interior line of the Saints is weak. With Pete McCoy ruiz.

986
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, all those guys grade out the thirty UH

987
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: in the thirty six percentile or lower. And the reason

988
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: I worry about that is because they have I love

989
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: the tackles. You know, you have Penning ram checked to

990
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: first rounders, young guys, good tackles. The Raiders had pretty

991
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: good tackles last year, but a terrible interior line, and

992
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: Carr just was never right and his accuracy continued to decline.

993
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just worried about Car being a.

994
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: Even like replicating what Dalton did last year because Carr's

995
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: numbers Car never even put up Dalton numbers.

996
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: From last year in year one of a new schemes.

997
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm a little pessimistic about Car, you know.

998
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: And then there's just a lot of things that like

999
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: there's more to me, there's more downsides and up where. Okay,

1000
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: let's say you get Michael Thomas back and he's healthy,

1001
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: and Latimore plays more games, and who else do they

1002
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: bet Penning plays more games?

1003
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Well, you also had a week seasons.

1004
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: From Cam Jordan at age thirty three, Tomorrio Davis at

1005
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: age thirty three, Tyron Matthew at age thirty. You know,

1006
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: like these guys aren't going to be a week forever

1007
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: your corner back JAF outside of Lattimore. I mean, it

1008
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: could be really bad unless you know these guys. You know,

1009
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Terror was really bad last year, A debo is bad

1010
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: roby Those are the guys projected as the next three

1011
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: on the roster.

1012
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: All three of them were.

1013
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: The PFF had one hundred eighteen qualified corners and again

1014
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: PFF grades and everything. But I think it kind of

1015
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: speaks to what I'm saying with the depth, all three

1016
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: of them ranked outside the top one hundred after Latimore,

1017
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: and Latimore was great last year, he he didn't allow

1018
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and so I don't like PFF has him

1019
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: Greade a pretty mediocre.

1020
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't agree with his grade, but I do agree

1021
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: with the grades of the other guys. They were not good.

1022
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: So you know, there's just I just for everything that

1023
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I see that could go better than last year, I

1024
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: see another situation where you know, you can't expect things

1025
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: to continue. I'm not I'm pessimistic on Car. I don't

1026
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: like Dennis Allen as a head coach. Seven and ten

1027
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: was his best record ever as a head coach.

1028
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Last year.

1029
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: He's never gone over a win total four year in

1030
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: four years. It's you know, starting as week in week

1031
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: one as the head coach, his team has never gone over.

1032
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: So I don't think he's a talent maximizer.

1033
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, you lost one of your best defensive coaches

1034
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: to the Falcons.

1035
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: And two of your you know, two.

1036
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: Pretty good defensive players in Ellis and Onyamada. So like

1037
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: there's just been like the slow drain on the Saints,

1038
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's just tough because like you say, the schedule

1039
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: is so easy, but it's easy because there's just a

1040
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: lot of mediocre teams like the Saints on their schedule.

1041
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: So it's not like, oh, like we're just gonna like

1042
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm personally anyway not gonna just ignore all of the

1043
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: reasons that I'm down on them and say, well, they're

1044
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: still gonna win like eleven games because the schedules, Like

1045
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I could see them just as easy losing eleven games,

1046
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: because it's just a bunch of other teams that I

1047
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: have rated very similarly to the Saints.

1048
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: So I do I am not high in the Saints

1049
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: at all.

1050
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is just a market

1051
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: saying the schedule is easy, the division sucks, and so

1052
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna ignore like any potential underlying issues.

1053
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: Camara, you know, has it.

1054
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: Really been as good the last two years? Taysom Hill

1055
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: can't keep put putting up like outlier touchdown numbers.

1056
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: He's about to be thirty three.

1057
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just think you're depending in

1058
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: relying on a lot of guys who could easily fall

1059
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: off a cliff, starting with Carr, Camara tas him, all

1060
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: the guys on defense I mentioned you know, I just

1061
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: see more downside than upside.

1062
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: But I mean maybe you disagree.

1063
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't. It's an old broken roster. It needs

1064
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: to everything like from the cap. Yeah, it needs to

1065
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 3: be needs to be just blown up, okay, and they

1066
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 3: need to start over. I mean, like if everything goes right,

1067
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: you know, like the offensive line has some potential. I'm

1068
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: not as down on the in tier as you are.

1069
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 3: It's not great, but it's it's okay.

1070
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't been good in years now, No, but.

1071
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying overall, like if you have two good tackles,

1072
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: they can be now put Penning still is like technique

1073
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: to work on. He's obviously as all the tools. He's

1074
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: like six six seven, three thirty, like wants to smash

1075
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: everyone's head in. Like this is the proto the if

1076
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: you've made like an it's a tack on a lab,

1077
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: you would make that guy. But and he's got a

1078
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: good They have a good offensive line coach in Maron,

1079
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: but they so you know, and then you you're wide

1080
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 3: receivers and live up to their potential. Don't get hurt.

1081
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: You have a good secondary on paper, like I know

1082
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: that you.

1083
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: Know the corner some of the corners. We have one

1084
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: good corner, two really good safeties, so like, but it's

1085
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: so old and just there's no depth and it could

1086
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: all fall apart at any second. And to your point,

1087
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: I have them favored in thirteen games. I have them favored,

1088
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: not favored by a touchdown more than any I have

1089
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: him favored by bare almost just under a touchdown at

1090
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: home against the Bucks, and then I only have them

1091
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: favored by That's the only game I haven't favored over

1092
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: four and a half points average. Their average spread on

1093
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: the year is minus two point one for all their games.

1094
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I want to fade them, so I lean

1095
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: under and I can't see the Bucks are I don't

1096
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: see it. Baker Mayfield just named the starter the Panthers.

1097
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: I'm a big Bryce young fan, but they're not there yet.

1098
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: Wait, now, we gotta we gotta talk about the Panthers.

1099
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: I I want to we want to talk about I'm

1100
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: gonna say, but that's one of the reasons why I

1101
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: bet Falcons. Uh, the divisions.

1102
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: But let's talk about I mean, how should we do this?

1103
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the Falcons last? Since

1104
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: we both love them? Yeah, it's like Panthers Panthers, another

1105
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: team that the market I think is.

1106
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: Too high on.

1107
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: My issue is I I just really don't agree with

1108
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of their organizational decisions, and I just don't

1109
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: think fitter Frank Reich really get it.

1110
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

1111
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like I was on the Panthers

1112
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: last year down the stretch after they fired Rule. But

1113
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: I think this could devolve into a similar situation around.

1114
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: I love Bryce Young, but I just I think that

1115
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: when you look at a lot of the moves they made,

1116
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, he's already I thought a bad talent evaluate

1117
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: Near the end of his tenure in Indy, I thought

1118
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: he I thought his team kind of sunk as he

1119
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: started losing a lot of his brain trust and his

1120
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you know, Siriani, he had eber Fluce there,

1121
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, and as those guys started to leave,

1122
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I just think you started seeing more disasters and just

1123
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: mistakes and lack of talent maximization. But you know, you

1124
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: give thirteen male guaranteed to Adam Thielen, you know he's

1125
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: on the other side of thirty. You give another thirteen

1126
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: mil to Hayden Hurst, He's on, he's on you know thirty.

1127
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: You give a big no fourteen.

1128
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: Mil Adam th Wen, sorry not thirteen fourteen mil Adam Deven.

1129
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: Then you give thirteen mil to hayden Hurst when you

1130
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: already had Ian Thomas, Tommy Trumble. I mean not saying

1131
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: these guys are great, but I don't think hayden Hurst

1132
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: is moving the knee. He's never had even six hundred

1133
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: receiving yards. He's thirty years old, he had coming off

1134
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: a career worst season despite playing in a Borough offense.

1135
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: You give him thirteen mel guaranteed. He gave DJ Chark

1136
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: five million guaranteed, fine, one year deal, not the worst.

1137
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: But then you give another thirteen million to Miles Sanders.

1138
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: His weakest attribute is pass catching, but you go and

1139
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: you want to make him into a three down back.

1140
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: You give him thirteen mils.

1141
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: So.

1142
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: Thirty forty mil guaranteed.

1143
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, Miles Sanders and Adam Thielen forty five mil.

1144
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: When you add in DJ Shark and this is still

1145
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: a below average offense with no real needle movers around

1146
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. You know Akwanu didn't hasn't really taken a

1147
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: step forward yet. I guess Moton on the other side

1148
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: is okay, but I just I just feel like they

1149
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on prior track record, And

1150
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: this is a trend I'm noticing with Reich going back

1151
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: to his indie days where he just you know, you

1152
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: get into trouble with the quarterback and you're trying to

1153
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: just patch things up with these veterans and not projecting

1154
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 1: forward and not really understanding how talent is gonna mesh

1155
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: with the talent on your team already.

1156
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: You're just looking at like what they've.

1157
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Done in the past, and if that deviates, then you

1158
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: don't really have a second option because like forty five

1159
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: mil guaranteed come for Adam Thielen, DJ Chark, Miles Sanders,

1160
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: and Hayden Hurst, Like are you kidding me? Like the

1161
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Pants are supposed to have a head start because this

1162
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: division is so weak, They're supposed to have a head

1163
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: start Bryce Young on his rookie yar. They're supposed to

1164
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: be in position to win a division this year. Instead,

1165
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: I like the under on their win total. I think

1166
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: this is going to be a very bad team. I

1167
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: think this is one of the worst coaching hires. I

1168
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: think Reich is super mediocre. If they were gonna not

1169
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: bring back Wilkes, who obviously had this team motivated to

1170
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: compete at a higher level than it was under Matt Ruhle.

1171
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, we saw a night and day difference. I

1172
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: mean I was betting the Panthers almost every week once

1173
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: they fired their coach, and they were covering almost every week.

1174
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: There was a clear difference.

1175
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: But Okay, if you want to move on from him,

1176
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: don't just make a mediocre like bring in like a

1177
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: new fresh mind or something like this is I hate

1178
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: the higher I hate the I hate all the moves.

1179
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: I hate that they gave up a number one wide receiver.

1180
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: And that was my question to you, Stuck, When have

1181
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: we have they ever has in the history of the week.

1182
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't think of an instance.

1183
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: But when you trade it for a franchise quarterback, and

1184
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: obviously you're get to pull out all the stops.

1185
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: Nothing's more important than a franchise quarterback.

1186
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: But when has a team ever had to give up

1187
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: its number one receiver in exchange for its number one

1188
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: future franchise quarterback as a throw?

1189
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: And like, has that ever happened before?

1190
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: Not that I can recall.

1191
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so it's like every move I see that

1192
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: the Panthers make pretty much. I feel like they got

1193
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: fleeced or it's a bad evaluation of talent or a

1194
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: bad use of the salary cap, and so I think

1195
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna carry over.

1196
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: Onto the field.

1197
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's any coincidence that the Panthers

1198
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: got shut out in their first preseason game.

1199
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: Because that kind of speaks to the just a bad roster.

1200
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: Like I get that in preseason you're just going one

1201
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: on one and you're not scheming, but that's the point.

1202
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: It's like, none of these guys one to the point

1203
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: where this team could even score a point in the

1204
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: first week in the preseason. So yeah, I'm way down

1205
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: on the Panthers. I don't like really anything they've done

1206
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: outside of acchoire Young And even then, you had to

1207
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: give up DJ Moore. You spent you know, over thirty

1208
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed on replacing your receiving core and you

1209
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: got a cooked Adam Thie when a one year DJ

1210
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: charge a thirty year old hayen Hurst coming off his

1211
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: worst year, Like, I just don't I don't trust this

1212
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: team and I don't like the moves, but I also

1213
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: don't trust it going forward because of what I'm seeing.

1214
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Panthers.

1215
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Bryce Young and the only other example

1216
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: of baby like the this is going way back, but

1217
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: the Eagles traded for Roman Gabriel, quarterback from for the Rams.

1218
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 3: I think for the number one, but I don't know,

1219
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: I think, uh, we're going way back. I'm trying. I'm

1220
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: really trying to.

1221
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean just like, like, what do you think of

1222
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: just all the moves in totality, because like for me,

1223
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: I was kind of okay, you know, I'm doing my

1224
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: deep dive. I like to go through each unit, each player,

1225
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, look at the moves, look at the cap

1226
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: look and every single move I see With the Panthers,

1227
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, don't like this, don't like this. Like

1228
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: even you know, the draft pick Mingo, the wide receiver, know,

1229
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: Matthew Freeman, our guy made a good point that you know,

1230
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers who have not led their college team in

1231
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: receiving really don't tend to pan out in the NFL.

1232
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: Not saying Mingo won't.

1233
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: But like even you know, even something like that where

1234
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: it's just like every move there doesn't seem to be

1235
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: any type of like know how or sharpness behind it

1236
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: where you know, like with the Eagles, you can kind

1237
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: of get a clear sense of what they're doing. You know,

1238
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: the Niners, the you know a lot of the good

1239
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: teams you can kind of see with this team, I

1240
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: don't like any of the moves. I just I just

1241
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: can't get over it. And I don't I don't like

1242
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: what do you even think of the higher Like I

1243
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: don't even like the higher of Reich. I think I

1244
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: think he's like he's probably our next whipping boy, like

1245
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: we had Urban, we had, we had dan Quinn, we

1246
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: had Hacket last year.

1247
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: My prediction is Reich is that for.

1248
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: This year, like Reich is gonna be our whipping boy

1249
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: that we're gonna bet against.

1250
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: Just almost auto bet.

1251
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know what do you think because I'm

1252
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: just as you can tell, just all the way out Carolina.

1253
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we'll let you speak for the Panthers.

1254
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: You're the Panthers with their win total is seven point

1255
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: seven point six. I project them seven point six. It's

1256
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: the least delta out of any team. I mean, like, yeah,

1257
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: there's some decent veterans. You have a decent quarterback duo.

1258
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: Uh for Qualko takes a step. You got to decent tackle.

1259
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: You have some offensive line comminunity, a couple of guys

1260
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: with turning from injury. I like Bryce Young, but it's

1261
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: an average team in a bad division. I have nothing

1262
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: on them to be like the under. And I've you

1263
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: said it all perfectly. There's nothing for me to add.

1264
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: I just sty nothing moves the needle for me on

1265
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: this team. It's just I just don't don't like it.

1266
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: But with the Bucks and then we'll get to the

1267
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: Falcons and why we like them. So Tampa Bay the

1268
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: wind total six and a half juice to the under

1269
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: at minus one forty two. Obviously Brady gone. You know,

1270
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: I think I should my.

1271
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: You would be.

1272
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: Where what is your review of this offensive line? Because

1273
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: that was just that finally did it for breeding like that?

1274
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: I think that like that, Brady couldn't overcome that offensive line.

1275
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: So I'm curious as to you know, did you see

1276
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: any improvement this year? Are you even more worried with

1277
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, guys switching sides and you know, what are

1278
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: your what are your thoughts on the bucks o line?

1279
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, look there, the Bucks are gonna be

1280
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: really bad and they got something like, you have some

1281
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: defensive pieces, you have two good corners, you still have

1282
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: some good defensive guys up front, a good secondary in general,

1283
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: and paper it's an overall aging roster. You know, you

1284
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: got some couple of good receivers. But it's Baker Mayfield

1285
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: at quarterback. And what do we always say with Baker Mayfield?

1286
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: It's like can if he's getting pressured, he's cooked. And yeah,

1287
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 3: this offensive line is really wearing. Some of the right

1288
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: side looks very dicey. And then you have worfs you're

1289
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: all star moving from the right to the left, and

1290
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: he's like seeing a psychologist over the move. That's not

1291
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: what you want to be hearing headed into the season.

1292
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: So and best, you know, best wishes to him, like

1293
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: that's no, yeah, what I'm just saying, make light of

1294
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: it or anything like that.

1295
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: No, we're talking about if if he's not able to

1296
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: deal with that move, you're taking your best player who

1297
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: was thriving at this one position moving into another position.

1298
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: And then if that goes wrong, the right side's going

1299
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: to be a mess, and then it's all going to

1300
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: fall apart even more this and then the bottom falls

1301
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: out of this team. And then all of a sudden,

1302
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: they could have the worst record in the NFL theoretically,

1303
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: so I lean under. I project him at like five

1304
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: point six wins even in this uh division because they

1305
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 3: have they have like a hard schedule compared to just

1306
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: relatively speaking, compared to the rest of the teams, even

1307
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: though it's easy overall. I think I them twenty fourth.

1308
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: Because they won the divisions first place schedule division.

1309
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I project five six, five seven. The

1310
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: window it is like a six juice A little bit's

1311
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: like six point one. So I lean under. But it's

1312
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: so low and such a bad division. I'm still in

1313
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 3: the NFC. That's a pass for me.

1314
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: But I got a question like, so, I know, you know,

1315
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: obviously you watch a lot of college tape and you

1316
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: know these guys better than I do, usually when they're

1317
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: coming out, Like, is there any way to kind of

1318
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: get a sense of when a guy like Luke uh gotticky.

1319
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: I believe that's the pronunciation decky. Yeah, Like when a

1320
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: guy has like such a bad season as a rookie,

1321
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they just stay bad and sometimes, like

1322
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: in a case of a guy like Andrew Thomas, uh,

1323
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: they make that jump.

1324
01:07:58,800 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: Is there any kind of.

1325
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: In cater you can look for like maybe anything they

1326
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: did in college or you know it did different by

1327
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: draft pedigrees or anything. You know, any veteran run blocking

1328
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: or pass Like, is there anything that is an indicator

1329
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: of which way a guy's career is gonna go after

1330
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: they have such a bad rookie year as a as

1331
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: a as a o iman, specially especially a tackle.

1332
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the thing is that he was a tackle

1333
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 3: at Central Michigan. H right, So and then if you

1334
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: look like he was six five six six, three twenties,

1335
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: like you fit to build and but he wasn't playing

1336
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 3: against elite competition, Okay, so like there, you know, he

1337
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: was a he was a tight end in high school

1338
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: and like didn't even play offensive line. Got to Central

1339
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 3: Michigan and you know, he was there starting right tackle

1340
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: as a sophomore. A lot of that is just like

1341
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: it's the k mac like and he's huge, he's gonna

1342
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 3: he's gonna obviously be at the starter there. And then

1343
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: he was out for the year with an injury in

1344
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and then he had a really good year

1345
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: and then he was drafted and like there's you know,

1346
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 3: he looked great that the combine fit all the profiles,

1347
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 3: but like there's not a huge history. It's been depends

1348
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: on the guy bas is what I'm saying. Okay, and

1349
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 3: now he's moving positions right like.

1350
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: Yep, but no he's not.

1351
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: He's technic, like isn't he's staying it right, And because

1352
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, oh no, he was he was playing what.

1353
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: Was he playing last year? Yeah he was.

1354
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was inside last year at left guard.

1355
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: And now they're moving him to right tackle. Yeah and

1356
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: that yeah, so that's and that's why they're moving, uh

1357
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: worse over to the other side.

1358
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, he started right tackling in college. Yes,

1359
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. But now he's switching positions in

1360
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: the NFL. So you have like this is like last year,

1361
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 3: what can you really take from it with this position change.

1362
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: It's not like you can be like, oh, I got

1363
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 3: this experience doing this in the NFL, Like you got

1364
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 3: to throw a lot of that out. I mean, at

1365
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 3: least he was throwing under the fire. And then the

1366
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: sample set that we have of him, you know, playing

1367
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: this position is in the MAC like you're not. It's

1368
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: not the SEC right, like you you could take like

1369
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: some of these guys are like, all right, look how

1370
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: this offensive tackle held up when he went up against

1371
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: these elite defensive ends that are now in the NFL.

1372
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: You can look back at how he performed against some

1373
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: of the pass rushers, the elite pass rushers that he faced.

1374
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 3: If he had a bad year, and he's like, all right,

1375
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 3: there's not much to go on, like you're when you're

1376
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: Central Michigan. So I have my doubts. Obviously he can

1377
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 3: still turn it around, but there's not much to go

1378
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 3: on to be really hopeful.

1379
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: And that's that's just going to be, like you said,

1380
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: a massive issue for Baker Mayfield because that's one thing

1381
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: we always kind of swear by is when he's getting pressured.

1382
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: That's when you want to fade him.

1383
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: And when he's gonna have a clean pocket, he might

1384
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: surprise you. And it just you know, I mean, Worth

1385
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: said on moving over and struggling mentally, and then Gadeki

1386
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: and gotta Ki on the other side, rookie on the

1387
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: rookie guard on the right side. So yeah, this offensive

1388
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: line is there's a chance it's even worse than last year,

1389
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: and that you know, the defense I could keep him

1390
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: in some games. I mean, I think it's gonna be

1391
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: an under team for sure, a lot of seventeen to

1392
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: six losses and things like that.

1393
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't want to go under six and

1394
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: a half. But yeah I don't.

1395
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't think they win seven games. So if he

1396
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: forced me to choose, I would go under. But I

1397
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: feel like I can't. I hate every team in his

1398
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: division but the Falcons, So let's talk about the Falcons.

1399
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: By the way, I hope it does work out for worse.

1400
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him. And then if it does work out,

1401
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, he's because he started with every game at

1402
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: right tackle for twenty twenty and he was one of

1403
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: the best. But if it does work out, then you know,

1404
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: obviously it'll be good for him mentally. But he'll get

1405
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 3: he'll get way more money. Yeah, his next contract is

1406
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: a left tackle yep.

1407
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: And you know it's I mean rains to be seen.

1408
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely got talent. We've never really seen

1409
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: him play poorly in the National Football League. He's been

1410
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: pretty good from the jump, yep, you know, as far

1411
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: as I remember so. But yeah, this offensive line big

1412
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: concerned that another guy. Feel really bad for Russell Gage

1413
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: just can't seem you know, he had that bad injury

1414
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, then comes back and now has a

1415
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: season ender. So that even like, you know, like this team,

1416
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: forget the offensive line, like if they lose god Winner Evans, like,

1417
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, my god, that that receiver depth there's none, There's.

1418
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: None there, not much of that debt.

1419
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: It's a very aging nothing in the scope position, shallow

1420
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: rosser overall.

1421
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, just nothing nothing there at the scop position. Death

1422
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: side of Godwinning and everyth I mean, ra Shad White

1423
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: is or Shad White. You know, maybe he'll get better,

1424
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: but he wasn't even good after content. He can't if

1425
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't creating anything with the bad offensive line, that

1426
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: doesn't bode well.

1427
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: Uh kay, Atten not not really impressive to me.

1428
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, this offense, I mean, it is it could

1429
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: it could get really bad if even if one of

1430
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: Godwin Evans or Wurf's goes down.

1431
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, forget it. But defense fine, But yeah,

1432
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: let's talk about the let's talk about the Falcons.

1433
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: We both like him. I already got him to win

1434
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: the division. We both like him to win the division.

1435
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: So tell everybody why we think this is the best

1436
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: team in the NFC South.

1437
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if I look at my projections, and

1438
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: we've been talking about this Falcons that for a while.

1439
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 3: I project the Falcons at nine point two wins and

1440
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 3: I project the Saints at like nine and a half

1441
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: wins right where there are not a lot of that

1442
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 3: is just the easy schedule. But that's not that much

1443
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: of a difference. And I can get you can find

1444
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: a plus one ninety out there on Atlanta, and as

1445
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: the Atlanta roster I don't think is you know, old

1446
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: and broken and needs to be blown up like the Saints.

1447
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: Like I think the Saints need a lot to go

1448
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 3: right and a lot of these you know, they really

1449
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: have to avoid injuries for this to work, and I

1450
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think that's the case with the Falcons. We

1451
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: know they're going to have a really good running game.

1452
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 3: I disagreed with the draft pick of Bjon Robinson, but

1453
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: he's just from a long term roster building perspective, I

1454
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: would have liked them to because the one thing that's

1455
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: still I would have really loved them if they just

1456
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,879
Speaker 3: got if they address the edge rush issue, like if

1457
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 3: that could really take their d I know they added Campbell,

1458
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: who doesn't seem to age, but he eventually he will. Yeah,

1459
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 3: He's like production, it just never falls off.

1460
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Saints though, Like it's like

1461
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's one day He's gonna stop doing elite and

1462
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: just be okay one day.

1463
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: One day, maybe not one.

1464
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: Day, and yeah, but like that and the Saints, like

1465
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 3: we have been super reliant on Jordan to get pressure.

1466
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 3: That's not the case with the fact of the fact.

1467
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: Just Campbell's going to be solid and like be solid

1468
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: against the run, and he's definitely an upgrade. And then

1469
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, you still have Grady Jarrett there. The linebackers

1470
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 3: are very questionable, but you know, because like go and

1471
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 3: get Bud dupray is he's just not that guy. But

1472
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 3: so I wish they would have gotten or you know,

1473
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: went out and signed someone to help off the edge.

1474
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 3: But in general, you know, getting Campbell and you know

1475
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 3: you have a really good corner already, and then getting

1476
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: Jesse Bates I think was big on the back end.

1477
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: So I like some of the pieces that they added

1478
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: to the defense and on offense, you know, it's we

1479
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: still don't know a lot about what we have with

1480
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: Does and Rider, but he's not going to be asked

1481
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: to do a lot. This is gonna be a run

1482
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 3: reliant offense. And we saw last year how dominant they

1483
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: were when everyone knew they were gonna run. And then

1484
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 3: they only add b Jon Robinson, who's you know, going

1485
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: to They're going to be able to use him in

1486
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 3: many different ways and it's gonna make They're gonna be

1487
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: able to create matchup problems with him by moving him around,

1488
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 3: using him in as a receiver. So I love the

1489
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 3: move just for the making their offense way more dynamic.

1490
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that this team has a pretty

1491
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: high floor. Like it's hard for me to see everything

1492
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: falling apart, Like even if Rider gets hurt, who cares.

1493
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it's even a good thing, not a good thing

1494
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: that got hurt, but you have Heinegy was really that

1495
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: much of a difference. So I think Rider gives you,

1496
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: you know a little more, maybe a little more upsides.

1497
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 3: We just thought that we just don't know. But yeah,

1498
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: I really liked this team. I think the dal will

1499
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: be a little improved. They'll be able to use Jon

1500
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: and high floor in this division at this price. On

1501
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: top of that, I just the Bucks are going to

1502
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: be bad and I don't see it with the Panthers

1503
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 3: with a rookie quarterback and some of their other issues.

1504
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: So I think the Falcons are the clear choice here

1505
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 3: two to one.

1506
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and best coaching the division, best coach in the division.

1507
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: And last season with Mariota starting thirteen games, with rookie

1508
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: Ritters starting four, with Kyle Pitts missing seven games, with

1509
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: no Bijon Robinson, with cord Aero Patterson who last year

1510
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: was a bigger part of the offense missing time. This

1511
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: was still the number twelve offense in DVOA. It was

1512
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: still the best offense in the division. It got better,

1513
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: There's no way the quarterback situation should be better. Just

1514
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: like you said, I think, I think Heinike and sophomore

1515
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: Ritter is still better than you know. Mariota throwing passes

1516
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: from his backside, and rookie Ritter and then Bijon Robinson

1517
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: generational talent whether you agree with the pick or not.

1518
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: And for Atlanta, I mean there's not a team that

1519
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: it might make more of a difference for than Atlanta,

1520
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: who is just gonna run so much. And then I

1521
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: like what they're doing on offense in terms of movable

1522
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: chess pieces you have a tight end that's a wide receiver.

1523
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: You have a wide receiver that's as big as a

1524
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: tight end. You have a running back that's a wide receiver,

1525
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: and a returner who can who's probably gonna go back

1526
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: to wide receiver this year. You have Bijon Robinson, who

1527
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: you plan a lineup in the slot. You got John

1528
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: hu Smith now, so you're a little like you can.

1529
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: He's kind of a more of a complete tight end,

1530
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: So you don't, you know, when you're kind of using

1531
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: pits as a wide receiver. You have a you know,

1532
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: John who I think gives you a little more than

1533
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: a guy like Parker Hassi or Michael Pruitt. So I

1534
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: like the offense. The Ollyes is one of the better

1535
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: ones in the league.

1536
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, that offense has so many chess pieces and

1537
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be it's similar. They have similar vibes to

1538
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 3: the Lamar Ravens for the first couple Greg Roman years,

1539
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: where you know, you're seeing all these high flying passing

1540
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 3: attacks and everyone is adjusting their defenses with you know

1541
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 3: your hey, we gotta have our two high safeties and

1542
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: change the defensive stop. And then the Ravens come along

1543
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: and then you're like, wait, this is not who we

1544
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 3: normally play. We're not used to prepping for this. And

1545
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: then you know they kind of have the advantage and

1546
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 3: play how they play, and other defenses aren't built to

1547
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 3: stop this type of offense. And now with all the

1548
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 3: pieces that they've added on top of that, because of

1549
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: their interchangeability and the flexibility, you can create so many

1550
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: mismatches all across the field. So yeah, I think that

1551
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 3: the the Falcons are very are my choice to win

1552
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: this division. Already locked in some plus one ninety.

1553
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: This was one of my first best might have even

1554
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: it might have been my first bet of the new season.

1555
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: I got it.

1556
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: Think I got it, like plus three hundred or plus

1557
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: three fifty, I got, I.

1558
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: Got, I got some where.

1559
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1560
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: People don't care about hearing.

1561
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, just trying to say how how much

1562
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: we love it.

1563
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. We talked about this when we telling people to

1564
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: bet it, when we did our Fairness, when we did

1565
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 3: the like pre drafts, you know that podcast like a

1566
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 3: three months ago.

1567
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you know remember too that.

1568
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: The Titans, you know, Arthur Smith when he was the OC,

1569
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: everyone looked at that offense. I mean they had Derrick

1570
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: Henry but outside of him, and they's like, Okay, this

1571
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: offense stinks and next thing you know, it's team scoring

1572
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: thirty points every night. Yep, Falcons got Bejonn Robinson, Drake

1573
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: London and Kyle Pitts pretty good like this, there's a

1574
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of unrealized upside. And if the defense could just

1575
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: be average because it was bottom three, but now you

1576
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: add Campbell, you add Bates, like you said, two guys

1577
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: from the Saints, Ayamana and Ellis who were pretty good,

1578
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: and there they're d you know one of their was

1579
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: it their D line? Coach Nielsen is gonna be the

1580
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: coordinator over dnps, who I think the game had passed by.

1581
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: So the defense is gonna look a lot different even

1582
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, the pieces are better, but just I think

1583
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a better coordinated and scheme defense to

1584
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: uh and at the same time, it probably drains.

1585
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: It's like a drain on the Falcons.

1586
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, you lose two players and when you're you're

1587
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: better defensive coaches. So yeah, it's I like the Falcons

1588
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 1: straight up against I mean, yeah, I like the Falcons.

1589
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're draining the Saints.

1590
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: You got Nielsen coming over from the Saints, and then

1591
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: you know Ayamada and Ellis the linebacker who had a

1592
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: really good year last year.

1593
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: We'll see if you can keep it up. But it

1594
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: was I think a seventh round pick, but a couple

1595
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: of a few years ago.

1596
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, either way, defense, if they could just get

1597
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: to like a little bit below average even you know

1598
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: from thirtieth last year, the offense probably gets better, probably

1599
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: breaks into the top ten in dv O A. Yeah,

1600
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: and in this division, you're gonna win games, so and

1601
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: you know the kicker is good, so not one of those.

1602
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: Good special teams to overall, which is important in this

1603
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: in this division. And then when you have a schedule

1604
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 3: that you know you're playing these games where you're running,

1605
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna be you know, the Falcons aren't

1606
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: gonna be blowing out teams. And then I I have

1607
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 3: their average projected spread for the year at one point

1608
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: minus one point two. I haven't favored in twelve games,

1609
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 3: but there's gonna be a lot of coin flips. Special

1610
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: teams could decide a couple of them, and they have

1611
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:48,480
Speaker 3: really good special teams.

1612
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1613
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, just now, this team, this team is the Atlanta Falcons,

1614
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: are gonna surprise people. You know, the the average NFL

1615
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: fans just probably see them being terrible on defense and

1616
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: you know all they're all run heavy.

1617
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 2: But I think this team is gonna surprise a lot

1618
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: of people.

1619
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that is finally the end of this podcast.

1620
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 3: By the way, that the other thing with the the

1621
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: last thing I'll say about the Falcons that could make

1622
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: the season longer if you looked at their schedule early on,

1623
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: you know they I think they have the they about

1624
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 3: every game might be at one on like on a

1625
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: Sunday too, which is like how you can build like

1626
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: good rhythm.

1627
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they.

1628
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: Have one game in London and Jackson Jacksonville Week four, London.

1629
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 1: Everything else is ten one eastern, ten Pacific until week ten,

1630
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: but that's at Arizona, which if there's ever a winnable

1631
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: road game in the evening and then right into the.

1632
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 3: By and that's a one that's at one eastern though.

1633
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: No yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right right,

1634
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: and then the bye and then you play New Orleans

1635
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: at home, so that that's probably a great time to

1636
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: playing New Orleans. By the way, like coming off of

1637
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: buye at home, usually you come off a bye you

1638
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: go on the road, so that they really did the

1639
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: Falcons a favor by giving them New Orleans off the

1640
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,919
Speaker 1: by and then but week seventeen they're in New Orleans,

1641
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: so that that should be interesting.

1642
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 3: But like if you also, if you look early in

1643
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 3: the season, they're of their first seven games, Carolina, Bryce Young,

1644
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Jordan Love. Then you have to Jacksonville, and

1645
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: then you have Stroud Howell and then how Baker. You know,

1646
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: so for obviously that's like six first time quarterbacks and

1647
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 3: Baker of your first and then two weeks later first

1648
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:33,440
Speaker 3: day games.

1649
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: And then two weeks later probably potentially caught McCoy or

1650
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Quayton tune if if Kyra hasn't come back by week

1651
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: ten or they just decide to shut him down.

1652
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: So and then the bye, and then yeah, you get.

1653
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: More more of those first time quarterbacks, and then like

1654
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 3: later in the season, you get Zach Wilson after Aaron Rodgers.

1655
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: Just good it starts. Yeah, anyway, all right, we gotta

1656
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: stop quick recover.

1657
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Falcons, Falcons, Falcons, all of the Falcons.

1658
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: I don't mind their eight and a half win total either,

1659
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna be a winning team.

1660
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 2: Uh well, obviously.

1661
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: I think the division is the best way to invest

1662
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: because you're getting great odds, but they've come down, so

1663
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind the win total if that's just your style.

1664
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: I like the Panthers under seven and a half.

1665
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: I like the Saints to miss the playoffs that plus

1666
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: one sixty Uh, we both lean under on the Bucks,

1667
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: but I mean it's minus one forty two at six

1668
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: and a half. Just I mean, not not really much

1669
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: going on there. And then in the.

1670
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: NFC East, I like the division, Yeah, you like? You

1671
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 2: like Cowboys Division, Cowboys Division.

1672
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Satt mean, Saints under and Falcons Division yep.

1673
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: And I like Hurts MVP. I like, I do.

1674
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: I do like Cowboys Division and even Cowboys uh to

1675
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: win the NFC, but I would like to get a

1676
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: better sense of what they're going to do in the

1677
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: kicking game and how that offense.

1678
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: Is gonna looks. I might wait until like after Week one.

1679
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the odds will shift too crazily, So

1680
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that bad ween under on Washington.

1681
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: You see some upside there ween over on the Giants.

1682
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: You're kind of you're in line with that, and yeah,

1683
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: that that's gonna wrap it up. If you guys have

1684
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: not listened to our AFC episodes, those are up as well,

1685
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: and we'll drop our final season preview episode, Part two

1686
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: of the NFC. That'll be the NFC North and the

1687
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: NFC West, so look out for that as well. You

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