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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: and Nori with you. Let us open up the secret door.

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Speaker 1: There we go, come on in. How are you? He know?

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Speaker 1: Is this George? It is George? And how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so delous. You sound like Queen Elizabeth. Yes, darling,

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Speaker 1: well the Queen couldn't make the telephone tonight, but I'm

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Speaker 1: here instead. I'm going to take a while, stab and guess.

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Speaker 1: First of all, to say that you are a male?

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? What a thing to say? But yes,

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Speaker 1: oh thank god I was right with that thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've got a great voice. And uh, let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit that how many how many years have you

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Speaker 1: been on the show with us? Well, let's see now

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Speaker 1: what time is it now? I've been on the show

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Speaker 1: on and off since two thousand and eleven. Two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eleven. Okay, so you've been with us a long time.

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Speaker 1: Do you deal with let's see the subject matter here?

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Speaker 1: Financial information. Finance and information is not my cup of tea, darling,

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Speaker 1: It is not, okay, is um UFOs UFOs? No? No,

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Speaker 1: not ufs. I'm sorry. Okay, how about hunting bigfoot? No, Doling,

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Speaker 1: My feet are just normal size. Oh geez, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not making any headway with you. Um what about

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Speaker 1: the paranormal, supernatural ghosts, things like that, well, Doling, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and things that are paranormal are sort of like ab normal.

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Speaker 1: But in my case, the stories that I tell you

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Speaker 1: are all normal because they're all consistent and reproducible. You've

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Speaker 1: got one of the best voices of doctor and yourself

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Speaker 1: that I've ever heard. I mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't guess who you are. I'm stumped together.

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Speaker 1: Give me some hints. Okay, think of me on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the door. What would the other side

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Speaker 1: of the door be called the flip side of the door?

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Speaker 1: Flip side? I know this, I know this. You wrote

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Speaker 1: a book called Flip Side, didn't you. That sounds familiar? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Rich Martini. Oh my god, what a voice. That was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I was channeling my inner Queen Elizabeth. You actually sounded

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Speaker 1: like Queen Elizabeth. Hands mister Martini. Have you been Oh, George,

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Speaker 1: I've been great, you know, other than getting COVID around

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Speaker 1: Christmas time and you know, others stuff and cough drops

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Speaker 1: and all of a junk. I'm fabulous. Thank god, I'm

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Speaker 1: not wearing a mask today. Yeah, me too, thank God.

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Speaker 1: Indeed are you I'm good. I'm good. And I will

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Speaker 1: always remember your last name from the movie It's a

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Speaker 1: Wonderful Life, because there was the bartender, was mister Martini,

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Speaker 1: wasn't he right? That's right, hippie. Uh And you know

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Speaker 1: what's what did you say about the angel? I'm another

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Speaker 1: angel and I ran into that actor, that character actor.

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Speaker 1: He was also a producer of a lot of television

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Speaker 1: shows and a bank in Beverly Hills. You mean when

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Speaker 1: he was alive, right, Yeah, when he's alive, and I

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Speaker 1: went up and I thanked him for making my name famous,

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Speaker 1: Rich Martini with us, folks, that means when we take

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Speaker 1: calls in a half hour, we're going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about the flip side, the afterlife. And he's done some

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Speaker 1: work into all kinds of areas, including channeling Amelia Earhart.

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Speaker 1: What's new there there? You go adding with people on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the veil. Of course. You know,

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Speaker 1: somebody introduced me once as somebody who thought he talked

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Speaker 1: I don't talk to the dead, but I talked to

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Speaker 1: people who talked to the dead. So I'm one of

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Speaker 1: those people. I film mediums, as you know, hypnotherapists doing

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Speaker 1: a session with somebody and they're talking to their loved

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Speaker 1: ones no longer on the planet. As well as meditation,

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Speaker 1: that's probably the three avenues that have had the most

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Speaker 1: the planet. Absolutely, So tell us what have you been doing?

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Speaker 1: Give me some updates. Well, let's see. So the book,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it on the show Tuning into the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: That was a very unusual where I brought all of

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Speaker 1: the research together where we're speaking to people that are

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Speaker 1: in some avenue of the music world. And so it

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Speaker 1: was like people like Ray Charles, for example, I had

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Speaker 1: And so since doing my work with Jennifer Schaeffer the medium,

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Speaker 1: I don't hear them. But but Jennifer is a medium

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Speaker 1: who works with law enforcement agencies nationwide, Jennifer Schaeffer and

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Speaker 1: I've been working with her for about seven years now.

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Speaker 1: Every week you can imagine, every week we get together

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Speaker 1: I say, she is worked for law enforcement. She helps

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Speaker 1: But but I also have this friend on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: My friend Lauana Andrews, an actress of some renown to

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this. She sort of precipitated my journey

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Speaker 1: So when I work with Jennifer Schaeffer, the construct is

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Speaker 1: that Luana is on the flip side, sort of running

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Speaker 1: Petty who came forward one day. Jennifer said, Tom Petty's here,

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Speaker 1: it is to talk to you guys. There's like a

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Speaker 1: So that's why the book was called a backstage Pass

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Speaker 1: And La said, in the dream, think of eleven eleven.

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Speaker 1: And his answer was when you get bored traveling around

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