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Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 3: That's the spirit we bring.

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Speaker 2: To this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: This this morning combat. Hey, it's the twenty eighth of

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Speaker 3: the month.

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Speaker 1: Cash your checks and get up everyone. Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas, and welcome to a Wednesday

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Speaker 3: edition on this twenty eighth day of June, the year

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Speaker 3: of our Lord, twenty twenty three. Thank you for being here.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to get to. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 3: my name is Luke Thomas. I joined you from the

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Speaker 3: capitol of this status wnitos right here in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 3: But of course I am really one half of your

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Speaker 3: hosting duo that donk over there is also one as well.

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Speaker 3: You know him as the King of Connecticut. My friend

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Speaker 3: in yours has he showered today? Probably not. It's Brian Campbell. Hi,

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: The good news is yes, Luke. The bad news is

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Speaker 2: it was the first time in two and a half days.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what this life is all about about, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, the semi washed kind of life, Luke. But

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Speaker 2: the good news is, you know, the fans took the

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Speaker 2: hit that they were given of MK, and they bumped again,

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Speaker 2: and they bumped again. So we're back, We're banging, We're ready.

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Speaker 2: What do we call this the midyear and review show, Luke?

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing now?

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Speaker 3: I guess something like that. Yeah, So basically here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: We know that there are some fights this weekend, and honestly,

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Speaker 3: if you look at that card for Saturday, the main

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Speaker 3: event doesn't blow you away. Okay, fair enough, and it's

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Speaker 3: We're at nearly the halfway point of the entire twenty

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Speaker 2: Sense, we see, Yeah, that makes sense to me, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's probably pretty fair. They don't really care.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we're going to be doing here today. Loops,

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Speaker 3: one more second here. Okay, reminder thumbs up here on

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Speaker 3: you can see all the socials down there.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us. Let's see.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, we should remind folks there's going to be

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Speaker 3: a show Friday, a live show. We'll have some program

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Speaker 3: and we'll be doing the prelims for the Jeron Ennis fight,

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Speaker 3: the same. And as we explained last time, always in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, we are always in our hotel room.

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Speaker 2: But hashtag not our call. Luke, You and I did

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Speaker 2: we did think we were going to IFW, but you know,

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Speaker 3: But even if we were at IFW, where would we

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Speaker 3: for sure. We had our turn. It was a nice turn.

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Speaker 2: But Mikey letting us know that pregame preview will debut

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Speaker 3: Luke, excellent, very good, Happy to hear that. So there

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Speaker 1: You see, how are you doing otherwise?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, yeah, I'm doing I'm doing good, Luke. I'm

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying this week, Let's go. But uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'd like to welcome Luke to our show,

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Speaker 2: New CBS Sports Social artist. Uh, Cody Hunter, Biden, Cody's brother,

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Speaker 2: Luke Armenian too the core. Okay, so so welcome, Welcome Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, that's a weird intro, but all right, nevertheless,

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Speaker 3: that's a true thing, he stated, So welcome, just the same.

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Speaker 3: All right, So on the show, here's how this is

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Speaker 3: the biggest storylines heading into.

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Speaker 1: The second half and maybe around at the end.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good, very good. BC. Let's remind everyone

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Speaker 2: Well, look it's you know, there's tough times in this

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Speaker 1: That's coming to a close here, pretty much.

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Speaker 2: This is an award winning shit show, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. Yeah. And of course, for today's

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Speaker 3: Uh. As we indicated, we'll start with some of the

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Speaker 3: you picked so many ones that I would have gone

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Speaker 2: Like do all my MK works seconds before the show starts.

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Speaker 2: The number one highlight for me as a combat sports

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Speaker 2: If you're asking what's the fuel for it, I don't know, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Okay, see when we see you. That's a big gamble

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Speaker 3: They claim it's unsafe. They claim it's unsafe, that it's

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Speaker 1: It's all bullshit. I mean, there's not a bounce of

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Speaker 3: You have to actually be there at the moments. There

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Speaker 2: But as long as you can use the rule set

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Speaker 3: Right? Unbelievable, Go ahead and see number two.

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Speaker 2: All right, number two, Luke on my you know, my

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Speaker 3: like I've made short of this one. I don't feel

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00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 3: like I've made a lot of strong relationships in the business.

435
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 3: But Okay, either here nor there, the point.

436
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 2: Being Kevin Nash used to say about pro wrestling Luke

437
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 2: to young wrestlers, Kevin Nash used to say, do you

438
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 2: want to make friends or do you want to make money?

439
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I want to make money, but I don't I

440
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,159
Speaker 3: don't want to make enemies either. But the point I'm

441
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 3: trying to me here, no there, here nor there. The

442
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make me see is that was

443
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 3: one of the most triumphant moments in combat sports I'd

444
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: ever seen, truly. I mean that to your point, you

445
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: raised all things you said about having his backup against

446
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 3: the wall, and BC, let's talk about another component of

447
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 3: here you mentioned not doing media. Dude.

448
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 1: Social media was filled.

449
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: With memes about him being dog walked, and you know, like,

450
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: this was the guy who had his number, and no

451
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: matter where he went, he was going to be all

452
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 3: of his accomplishments were going to be up ended. And

453
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 3: he still found a way to overcome all of that

454
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 3: and do it, and did it, by the way, in

455
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: dramatic fashion by inviting risk. Now it's a much smaller thing, BC,

456
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: But like when Charlo beat the who's the Argentine guy

457
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: who was in his face have never remaxed. Remember Charlo

458
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: didn't like stick and move. Charlo just met him in

459
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: the middle. Basically, it was like, well, I'm just gonna

460
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 3: beat you where you're strong, and fucking did it and

461
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: did it like it reminded me a little bit. I mean,

462
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: obviously it was much bigger than that, but it reminded

463
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: me a little bit of that same kind of spirit.

464
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: Just a triumphant, a truly truly truly triumphant moment in

465
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: a fighter's career. Amazing to witness that, truly amazing. All right,

466
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: for my number two BC, We've talked about this a lot.

467
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: No need to beat a dead horse, but it is

468
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: worth reminding now that we're six months in some of

469
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: the amazing things we've seen. This is an easy one, folks.

470
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: How about the rise of Mexican mma. Now, of course

471
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 3: it's been on the rise for some time. It didn't

472
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 3: just happen in an instant, But then this past six

473
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: months we saw Brandon Moreno recapture the belt, we saw

474
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: Alexa Grosso capture the belt, we saw Jayo Rodriguez.

475
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: Get the interim belt.

476
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: He'll now try to unify that in just a couple

477
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 3: of weeks, even less than that a week and a half.

478
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: So we're really at this stage where there's a maturity

479
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: in a marketplace that is undeniable. And again going back

480
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: to like what this marketplace is, it's arguably the most

481
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: important marketer. You know, again that's a little bit debate

482
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: about that, but just in terms of the like how

483
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: important is Mexico to boxing. You can't have boxing without Mexico.

484
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 3: So it's just impossible to conceive of, just given how

485
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: many great fighters, great rivalries, great stories come out of that.

486
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 3: And then on top of it, we've talked about it before. Man,

487
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: when you go to Vegas and you see the Mexican

488
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: boxers there and then you watch the Mexican fan base

489
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: respond like, I've never seen that in MMA to the

490
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: same extent in the United States. Obviously, going to Mexico

491
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: is a totally different story, but in the United States,

492
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: I've just yet to see that, And I feel like

493
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: we're gonna get closer to that now with how well some.

494
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: Of these Mexican fighters are doing.

495
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: We're talking about a rock ribbed fight community in every way,

496
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: like you want Mexicans as part of your fight family

497
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: because they're only going to make it better and through.

498
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: From top to bottom.

499
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 3: And watching how good they've gotten, watching how developed this

500
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: market has become, and how senior their fighters now are

501
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: in this in this game is really just a joy

502
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: to watch. Welcome it, and I think by the way

503
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: BC it portends more growth in other parts of the world.

504
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: All of it very exciting.

505
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: Well well said, I obviously agree with you. It's been

506
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: a great revelation this first half of the year. Well,

507
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: like cynical CounterPunch time, do they need Yayr to win

508
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: to inflate back the Aldanna flat tire? Or am I

509
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: just an absolute jerk? Luke?

510
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: It was a flat tire, a really bad one, you know,

511
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: do they need that to reinflate it? Even then, They're

512
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: still gonna have two champions and Brazil has none, So

513
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm well if yeah, so yes, I would still say uh,

514
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: I would still say they're doing pretty great.

515
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's been fantastic to see number three,

516
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: Luke on my highs for twenty twenty three in combat.

517
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: I won't belabor it because it just happened and we

518
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: loved it and we blew it up. But Amanda nunis

519
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: retiring on the terms in which she did. Now certainly

520
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: they're on her own terms, which is what makes this

521
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: so extra special. But to go out with a dominant

522
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: performance against a dangerous fighter and for as much as

523
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 2: we say is you know, al Donna didn't didn't have

524
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: the night she expected or we expected, and there's probably

525
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: a lot of regrets mixed in there. You know, nunas

526
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: did was the was a big part of that. I mean,

527
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: let's not let's not overlook that. And you know, had

528
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: all Donna stepped on the gas, who knows, right with

529
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: that fight of gone in her favor, would she had

530
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: gotten stopped here Nunis came in and finished off her

531
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 2: career rear the right way, had already regained her title,

532
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: but didn't want to retire until she beat a big,

533
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: a big tough test in its moment, well you know,

534
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: the injury to pain you open that door up, but

535
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: you add in the family dancing in the cage. Even

536
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: John Annix's incredibly TMI comment about uh Nina being pregnant

537
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: with the second child, and that's that's that's Amanda's eggs, Luke,

538
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: those are Amanda's eggs. You're damn right, Luke, they're championship eggs.

539
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: To be fair, I hope I don't get fired for that.

540
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: But it's a love And the whole point is this,

541
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: as much as like you know, the Atisania win and

542
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: the the aforementioned paina title upset remind you of the

543
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: human spirit in there. We endure so many unhappy endings

544
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: in combat sports, and a lot of times, by the way,

545
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: that's tied to the hunger of the athlete who can't

546
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: stop wanting to be great and wanting to do this

547
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: even when it it becomes a detriment. The way in

548
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: which she has navigated this run, when you trace it

549
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: back to coming to the States with zero money and

550
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: no place to live, it's beating the game. She beat

551
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: the game, and she won, and to get there, she

552
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: had to beat every famous name in the history of

553
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: women's fighting that was eligible or willing to fight her

554
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: to do it. An incredible resume and incredible run, But

555
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: it's weird. It's like, you know, if your favorite great

556
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: fighter gets knocked out cold in their last fight, in

557
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: a fight that they shouldn't have been in, will that

558
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: affect their legacy and resume because it's the last thing

559
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: you remember. Will that slowly fade over time? Luke, that

560
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: stuff kind of slowly fades. We don't, you know, we

561
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: make jokes about the Lava Shack right now, but in

562
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: fifteen years we'll be talking about the bj Penn high moments.

563
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: To have newness go out with that taste in our

564
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: mouths of just family, success, perseverance, It's like, that's so like,

565
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: that's so rare to get something wholesome in this game,

566
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: in this game meaning combat sports. It's never wholesome, never,

567
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: and if it is, Luke, it's probably infused by performance

568
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: enhancing drugs. Luke to be fair, right, which I guess

569
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: is wholesome. At this point, we've given up caring. This

570
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: was wholesome as shit, This was apple pie. This was

571
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: the American dream to be fair from a Brazilian legend.

572
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: I want to bring it up and I want to

573
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: give it what it deserves, because that don't come around

574
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: too often.

575
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: No, no, it doesn't. And again this is something we've

576
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: really noticed. You get guys like who do really really,

577
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: really amazing things in their career, and they get talked

578
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: about in the pantheon of you know, the best ever,

579
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: and then even among the best ever, some of them

580
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: have much better retirements than the other ones. Much better exits,

581
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: is what I believe. What I mean, not the post life,

582
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: although that's part of it. Two And I think BC

583
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: there's like I mean, I don't know if you could

584
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: really grade how they retire as part of their resume.

585
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: I think that begins to get strained a little bit,

586
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: like oh, retired like Heabib retired undefeated, you know, and

587
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: like on a win and you know, a title defense

588
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: and then he got out. You know, does that really

589
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: like the fact that he got out without much problem?

590
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 3: Do you want to grade that just component of it

591
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: as part of their overall record. Probably not, but I

592
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: will tell you BC, I think it does say something

593
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: about these people. I think the ones who retire like Kobibe,

594
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: like George Saint Pierre, like Commanda Nunez, they are operating

595
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: at a different level than the ones like Penn who

596
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: were at the highest level. I mean truly, when he

597
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: was on top, he was on top, but then he

598
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: had this dramatic fall. He couldn't manage his affairs in

599
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: nearly the same kind of way. Penya excuse me, I

600
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 3: has to say. Nunez, excuse me, never succumbed to that

601
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: kind of thing. And I do think that speaks to

602
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: her overall, you know, record and strength as a fighter,

603
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: but then her record and strength, as I should say,

604
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: her strength and.

605
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Her abilities anyway as a person.

606
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: Tip my hat. She did it about as good as

607
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: anyone could ever imagine it going.

608
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Man, what a what a great run, shap.

609
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: Great moment. If you're young Reagan Luke, the daughter of

610
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: this MMA power couple, like your scrap book is going

611
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: to be you running around the cage when you're a

612
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: little kid celebrating. Well, you know what I mean, Like

613
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: that's a that's a hell of a moment, Luke, I mean,

614
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: did you get that moment inside the Foreign Affairs office

615
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: in in uh cutter at all to you know, watching

616
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: your dad? Sleigh?

617
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: No, I did see My dad took me on one

618
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: diplomatic trip one time, and I went to Uh, I

619
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: went to Israel, I went to Jordan, I went to Egypt,

620
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: swam in the dead Sea? Uh?

621
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: Did you get to see him be a badass? Was

622
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: it the opposite of that Great Wonder Years episode where

623
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: Kevin goes to work with his dad but then he

624
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 2: gets his watches his dad get like bitched out by

625
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: an angry boss.

626
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: No, but I did get to ride in a bulletproof car.

627
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool, all right, pretty cool?

628
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Right?

629
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did your dad was really heavy? The doors were

630
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: really heavy.

631
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: Ironically, did your dad ask the taxi driver to stop

632
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: buy a rental property he had there and uh and

633
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: cut her to check it out on the way back

634
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: from doing that? Luger?

635
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he didn't do that this time.

636
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: But you think he's ever listened to a show. I

637
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: don't think he has I don't think it's our show. No,

638
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: put that in the low light. Last, but not least

639
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: we see for me on combat sports highs so far. Listen,

640
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: what do we have coming up at the end of

641
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: about a month from today, actually a month and a

642
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: day basically from today, we're gonna have Spence Crawford. Now

643
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: that's in the future, so we're talking about the past.

644
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: But one of the.

645
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: Reasons why that many reasons why that fight is significant,

646
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: but one of them is it's basically to decide who

647
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: the pound of pound best is in the sport. It's

648
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: like one versus two depending on how you want to

649
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: size him up, folks. That's what Volkanovski versus Makachev was.

650
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: Now that's a little bit different because one guy was

651
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: coming up a weight class they're not. It's not apples

652
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: to apples, But I just mean you got to see

653
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: two guys battle basically in their primes for the number

654
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: one slot in the sport and uneven circumstances given the

655
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: weight as I just mentioned. But we just cannot take

656
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: that for granted. You're just not gonna see that very

657
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: often for any number of reasons. Both guys you know,

658
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: could be very far apart or in terms of weight class,

659
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: or ones of the beginning of their career ones at

660
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: the end, you got them both basically speaking, in the

661
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: same weight class, in the same sort of prime of

662
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: their career. Granted you got a controversial result. But I

663
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: just I just want folks to never ever ever take

664
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: for granted the moments in fight sports when one fights

665
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: too to see who the real number one is, you

666
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: must you must put reverence on that, and for all

667
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: the problems that matchmaking might be having. Now, that was

668
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: a fantastic moment, a great fight. However you saw the decision.

669
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: I am extremely grateful we got to see a contest

670
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: like that.

671
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: And how about this, Luke, When we're talking about like

672
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: these are our high moments of the first half of

673
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: this year, there's a high within a high there just

674
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Folkanowski's performance, Like, you know, that's the greatest win in

675
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: a fight that he didn't win in a long time

676
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: that we've seen. And normally when we give somebody a

677
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: greatest win for a losing performance, it's sometimes because a

678
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: heart or just enduring something within the fight and staying competitive. No,

679
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: he actually had a case to win that right, and

680
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: so I still have a number one popt pound despite

681
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: the loss with Machev number two. So that shows where

682
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: we're at, you know, in the value of that performance

683
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: to show up, not be dominated in the wrestling and

684
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: make a fight like that and just close on the

685
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: boxing part we could have. We could close twenty twenty

686
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: three in boxing with three fights, including two in one week,

687
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: in which the winner, based on how good they look,

688
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: could end up being the pound for pound king. And

689
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: that's Fulton a new way on July twenty fifth, a

690
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: new ac already currently my number one pound for pound,

691
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: but Fulton's right there, you know, nine, ten, eleven area.

692
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: And then how about Spence, Crawford and even fury usk Luke.

693
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 2: Both of those heavyweights are in a lot of people's

694
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: top ten pound for pound. It's rare for heavyweights to

695
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: like to get there and then linger. If they fought

696
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: and it was a great fight in the winner, you know,

697
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: you can make that argument too. So that's rare, dude,

698
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: that's really rare. What a time, What a time to

699
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: be alive. I hope we get Vulk Islam two at

700
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: lightweight next year with Vulk fully moved up and we'll

701
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: see what we got here. It'd be a a hell

702
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: of a fight for hardcorees.

703
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: All right. With that in mind, we've talked about the

704
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: highs BC thus far in the first six months of

705
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: the year. Let's talk about some of the lows, because

706
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: there's been plenty of those two, as there would be

707
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: in any year. So BC, go first, give me a

708
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: low from Combat Sports thus far in twenty twenty three.

709
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: I got two words for you, Luke, power slap baby. Right,

710
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: I guess that's three with an exclamation point at the end. Okay,

711
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: it would be a little bit petty if nothing else

712
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: had happened in Power Slap Debuted, and I'd just be like,

713
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: this was the worst moment because I think it's the

714
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: stupidest sport ever, and it is just so you know,

715
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: and it is hard to look over the moral justification

716
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: from a promoter who should be underplaying the level of

717
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: violence in his own sport and yet is putting out

718
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: a non defense sport in which you're getting concussed every time.

719
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: But the real reason why this is my number one

720
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: low moment of this year, Luke, was how it tied

721
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: into the unfortunate situation with Dana White and his wife

722
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve. Disgusting, but they were drunk and

723
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: it got out of control. I'm not justifying it. It

724
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: was what it was, but the fact that that did

725
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: almost nothing to affect the launch of Power Slap, and

726
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: we all remember how everyone Dana came out and addressed

727
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: it right with M media, which I still think was

728
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: big and strong, and he did great there. But you know,

729
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: nobody else with a pulse connected to that wanting to

730
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: even comment or put out a press release. I mean,

731
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: they could have put out the most bullshit press release

732
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: of just we're monitoring the situation. We're doing our own investigator.

733
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: They're like, we're not. We're just gonna pretend that didn't happen.

734
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: When you tie that, I mean, you could not have.

735
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: It's comic coal, but it's really obviously gross and sick

736
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: that that domestic dispute would happen, like right during the

737
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: build to promoting this, and like we said that, everybody

738
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: would try their best to just move forward and be like, yeah,

739
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: that was you know, it was untimely, But let's get

740
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: back to the slap. You got Wolverine next week, or

741
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: you got the other fat guy. You know, no, no,

742
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: this is this is absolute bullshit. I mean, it's such

743
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: an insult to to Emma and to the fighters themselves,

744
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 2: and and and and that. I just I cannot believe

745
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: the the balls of Dana and and you know, and

746
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: then you throw in how they've used the social channels

747
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: on UFC to flood it with this. The whole thing

748
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: is is such a weird misstep for a company that

749
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: love or hate the decisions and the tactics to get here. Lorenzo,

750
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Frank and Dana got here, and now Ari and they

751
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: did an incredible job to get here. Yet this is

752
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: like such a weird blind spot to me that they're

753
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, let's put millions into this. Who cares

754
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: about TBS. We got Rumble Zone here on Rumble Sports, Okay,

755
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: let's do it. This is about freedom. Yeah, that was

756
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: pretty gross.

757
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: Right, you see. I mean I just I just you know,

758
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Dana watched this out there live in that punishment, you

759
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, what's the punishment I have

760
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 3: to live this way?

761
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

762
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Well, he seems to really be suffering.

763
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: You know, really out there just life kicking is a

764
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's only got five hundred million in the

765
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: bank a house with three pools and an army of

766
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: sick offence to tell him everything he does is great

767
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: every single place he goes. So you gotta feel for

768
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: the little guy, you know what I mean. That's really

769
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: what this story is about. You gotta feel for the

770
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: all right, for my things that are not going great.

771
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: So far some of the lows.

772
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: Guys, What the fuck is going on with Connor McGregor

773
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: is really just the only question I could ask? First

774
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: of all, we're fresh off The Ultimate Fighter, where he's

775
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: lost every single fight. He's zero and five in the house,

776
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: which which by itself doesn't necessarily mean anything, but you know,

777
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: because it could be the way. It's like veterans versus

778
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: the new guys, and dude, I'm just I.

779
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 2: Saw to interrupt you. I saw a couple of episodes

780
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: and I stopped. I gave up. But like, here's his

781
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: coaching style. It's like punch him in the fucking face,

782
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: right in the face, Like that's you know. And meanwhile,

783
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: you know he's wearing like a tight ass three PCE

784
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: suit while doing that, or he's wearing the UFC fight Kid.

785
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: It's just so bizarre. And then you know, Chandler's like

786
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: in sweats down on the mat, coaching wrestling techniques and strategies,

787
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: and Connor's just coming in guns blazing of like you know,

788
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: tequila white lighting and Luke Wow.

789
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I'm not even mad at the way in

790
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: which Connor's living his life in terms of just partying. Like,

791
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: if he's like the partying side of it, that's his

792
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: right to do. I mean, if he made all the

793
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: money in the world, wouldn't you want to party something

794
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: to a degree, maybe not as much as him, but

795
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, I don't mind that he's enjoying

796
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 3: his life, but it really is just creating a bunch

797
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: of weirdness. They booked a show and a face off

798
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: with no fight signed at all, so we don't know

799
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: what the hell's going to happen with any of that.

800
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: He didn't enter the USADA testing pool by the requisite

801
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: timeline to be back by this year unless the UFC

802
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: is just gonna wave that, which they still.

803
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Might, but we don't know what the story is with that.

804
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: Plus there's this whole thing that happened in Miami Heat,

805
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: which I guess is gone out of the headlines. I

806
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck is going on there, but

807
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: none of it, none of it is leading to a

808
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: place where he made his fortune to begin with, which

809
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: is inside the cage. When he's on and at the

810
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: top of his abilities. Guys, he's a delight to watch.

811
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you that when he did

812
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Eddy Alvarez at UFC two oh five. B C and

813
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: I were there that night. It's a special night in

814
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: the history of the sport. Truly. I mean that one

815
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: of the most incredible performances I've ever witnessed in my life.

816
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: He was on top of the world. And so again

817
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: we've discussed this previously. Maybe he's just in a different

818
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: stage in his life and he doesn't want to do

819
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: this anymore, or I don't know. These are questions for

820
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: him to decide. But the weirdness of how much the

821
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: UFC wants him to be around, juxtaposed with how much

822
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: he clearly is not really all that much desiring to

823
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: be around, makes for this strange relationship where we're always

824
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: asking what about Bruno but he's not there.

825
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: It's just it's just not a great thing for the

826
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: sport right now.

827
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, we just went through a

828
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: similar thing, but different with John Jones, where for three

829
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: years we're like, is he gonna fight a heavyweight? Like

830
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: what's going on? And it was, you know, there were

831
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: some dark moments in that too, but it's not like

832
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: a direct comparison. But yeah, everything you said, Luke, I'm

833
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: not really by the way.

834
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: But see I'm not saying he's not coming back. I

835
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: mean that's also on the table.

836
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: Hey, everyone says he is. Chandler's telling media that he's

837
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: optimistic the fight will happen in the next six months.

838
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: It's like, Mike, unless they waive that it's not happening.

839
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: But look, I'm almost like it's laughable, but I'm almost

840
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: prepared and ready and almost welcoming them to just come

841
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: out and just be like, oh no, he got it.

842
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: He started his thing a couple months ago. It just

843
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: wasn't public, you know, and then you saw to be like, yeah,

844
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: we're good, you know, or like you said, just just

845
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: give them the brock Lessner. You have C two hundred treatment.

846
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: The rules don't apply here. We want this celebrity back

847
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: in there. But it's just weird that we don't have answers,

848
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: real weird and it look to be fair on that Miami.

849
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: He's story. I think the story the didn't the accusations

850
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: kind of fall apart in terms of the accuser, and

851
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: there was like video and pictures of her with Connor later.

852
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: So here's my read on that.

853
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: You have to be careful with TMZ because remember what

854
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: TMS did with Dana. They didn't release the video until

855
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: they got a comment from him, rather than just like

856
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: putting it out there, which they normally do. So again,

857
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they went to the police. To my knowledge,

858
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: the police haven't done a goddamn thing, which kind of

859
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: maybe that tells you there's nothing to this. I mean,

860
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: you know, the idea that he would be falsely accused

861
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: at some point seems very fair and take into consideration.

862
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: Fair enough, We're just the point that we made previously

863
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: was what it's surprised you've given all the other accusations,

864
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean, are they all false? That seems a little

865
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: hard to believe too. But the point the point there

866
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: is you never know who strategically leaks stuff to TMZ

867
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: to sway public opinion one way or the other.

868
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: It could be get hot and conspiratorial of you, Luke.

869
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: You don't normally know TMZ has is known for being

870
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: a little bit cozy with some of their own sources.

871
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were doing the UFC is leaking

872
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: that to force Connor's time for less.

873
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't even be necessarily what I'm saying at all.

874
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 3: In fact, it could be the Miami heat that leaks

875
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: some of that stuff to get the to get the

876
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: league off of them.

877
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Like, it's just too weird and too unknown to know.

878
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: So unless nothing happens, I should say, If nothing happens,

879
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: then yeah, maybe Connor really did get falsely accused. Fair enough,

880
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's so weird that I'm just taking

881
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: a step back to seeing how the how the things

882
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: shake out.

883
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree that this is a monster sort of

884
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: what's the category we're looking at right here, Luke the

885
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: Low's Yeah, this is a monster low in terms of

886
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: not knowing but also watching it happen. Like I get

887
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: that there are people like yo that accusation fell apart

888
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: to a degree like vindicate him. I'm still coming back

889
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: with why is he going into a restroom with a

890
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: bunch of chicks at halftime of an NBA game? What

891
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: do you do in those restrooms? Luke drugs or sex, right,

892
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: I mean, like what was going on? You know, Like, yeah, overall,

893
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's just a really bad look and a

894
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: continuation of our concerns where it's not like at the

895
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: age he's at where necessarily you know, all feeling like

896
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: another title run is evident. No, not even close. But

897
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: it does tie into the second half of his career

898
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: in terms of like giving it away Luke. Right, you

899
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: know that that great Drive by Truckers song Outfit by

900
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: Jasonisball and the refrain there is he's telling the favorite

901
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: lessons he learned from his grandpa or whatever, and it's,

902
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, don't give it away. Saying that in response

903
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: to John Lennon saying that the Beatles are bigger than Jesus.

904
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: But it's sort of like, you know, don't don't fail

905
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: on your own, right, Lou, Lou's on the field, don't

906
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: don't don't give it away. Man Connor has given away

907
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Luke the second half of this of this career. And

908
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: it's not that he didn't make big money or become

909
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: an all time crossover superstar. He's yeah, he's done all that.

910
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: The Floyd thing just getting there, by the way, is

911
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: that's a one to million opportunity moment, and it kick.

912
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Maybe that kick started this new generation of circus and

913
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: crazy fights, but that's it was impossible that that could

914
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: happen the way it did, and it did. These are

915
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: all big moments, but there's also like a responsibility to

916
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: your craft that it visually looks like he's failing right

917
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: now in regard to that, which makes us ask ourselves

918
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: why should we care when the reality is we all

919
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: want to care. We all, I mean for the most part, Looke,

920
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: unless you have a distinct grudge and hating him. You

921
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: want him to come back, You want him to be

922
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: in big fights, and you want him to have a

923
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: chance to win. MMA is so much better with that

924
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Kai on top it. He is a rare star that

925
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: Bert's generations of new fans. We want you to get

926
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: your shit together. It's not even close to together right now,

927
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: not even close, not even close. Luke.

928
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: That's just all right, BC. We are not gonna make

929
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: it if we don't move this process along.

930
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: So let's hit now.

931
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Sacrifice passion, you know, length for passion, Luke.

932
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what you said at the pre show.

933
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: Media.

934
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: That is definitely not what you said at the pre

935
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: show media.

936
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: Oh, we were.

937
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: Rejecting, Luke. We were projecting of how long the show

938
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: could be.

939
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: But you know, you get me, and our projections are

940
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: wildly off the mark.

941
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that sums it up, Luke. Okay, my number

942
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: two sports Low's combat for this first half of the year. Yeah,

943
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury, what are we doing here? Fight Alexander Usik

944
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: for the undisputed championship? You know how rare? You know,

945
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: how like we've never had a four belt in this

946
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: modern last twenty five years whatever, how long it's been

947
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: of this kind of four belt era, which is hard

948
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: to have an exact starting point of what that is

949
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: because that fourth belt it took a while for boxing

950
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: to sort of fully recognize it. It's all bullshit anyway.

951
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: But what do we always say, if we can have

952
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: a heavyweight division with a lot of fun guys in it,

953
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: and we can end up having one undisputed champion the

954
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: face of the franchise, what could that do for the sport? Well,

955
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: you got your chance to do it. There's nothing in

956
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: the way promotionally network wise. Both guys unbeaten, both the

957
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: guy's future all time greats. We're gonna try to declare

958
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: who's the best of this era. And as we've talked about,

959
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: ad nauseum for Fury, if he beats Oosick and let's

960
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: say then retires or takes easy fights the rest of

961
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: the way, he hasn't accomplished enough on its own to

962
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: win this argument. But he's going to have arguments Tyson

963
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: Fury for where he actually would fit in top ten

964
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: all time heavyweights. I mean, just you know, and it

965
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: could be really high. How high you want to argue that,

966
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: because how are you gonna beat that size in any era?

967
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,479
Speaker 2: But man, he acts like an asshole a lot, Luke.

968
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: And I don't mean like he offends me with the

969
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: things he says. I mean he's just offending the position

970
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: he's at, in my opinion, by not going out of

971
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: your way to make this fight happen, and by constantly

972
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: deceiving us with the tone of the videos. And I

973
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: want Francis, No, I want the Mountain man, No, I

974
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: want Fury, but or I want Joshua, but it's got

975
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: to be tomorrow, Like it's just all bizarre. And then

976
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: we got a third Jazora fight. What are we doing here?

977
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: Big Tyson? All Right? I don't think you can fight

978
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: in the States anymore because of Kinahan. But that's not

979
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: even in an equation of why this fight with Usik

980
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: hasn't happened. So let's find all the money in Saudi

981
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Arabia and let's do it in December, because history demands it,

982
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: and I think ultimately so does your legacy. We want you.

983
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: We want to have that argument for you, Tyson, that

984
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: we covered boxing during the era when one of the

985
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: four or five best heavyweights walked this earth. I want

986
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: to have the proof of having been there so I

987
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: can make that argument. You know what I'm saying, Luke,

988
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: arm us with that show us how great you can be.

989
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: This is not a question of him not wanting it, Luke.

990
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: He's always like a leverage based businessman publicly mixed with

991
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: being a wild personality. But get this shit over with

992
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: because this is the most important part of your career.

993
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: Get it over with. We're gonna favor you to win anyway.

994
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Get it done.

995
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I agree.

996
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: For all the good things we said about boxing in

997
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, the heavyweight division and Tyson in particular,

998
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: have been a grand disappointment thus far. Still only halfway in.

999
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: We'll see how the second half goes. But I certainly

1000
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: show your sentiment BC. For me, this one's real simple.

1001
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: It's the Musk versus Zuck thing, and I know we

1002
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: beat it with a dead horse, so I'm really not

1003
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: going to belabor the point. The only part I wish

1004
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: to remind folks is the UFC does and listen. Carnival

1005
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: fights are a part of combat sports. They really are,

1006
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 3: sometimes in a very obvious way, like the full Metal

1007
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: Dojo guys over in Southeast Asia, or you know, you

1008
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: even getting back to Pride booking, you know Hungman Choy

1009
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: or maybe that was a dream I can't remember anymore,

1010
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: but you.

1011
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: Know, Giant Silva's who Pride booked.

1012
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 3: Excuse me, but also you know voice fighting Aqui Bono

1013
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: on K one on New Year's Eve. Like, this is

1014
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: all part and parcel of the game, but it can

1015
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: be corrosive over time if you're not careful with it.

1016
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Not that I think that that's really the situation. Here's

1017
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: the only thing you have to realize, Like, why are

1018
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: these two guys even in consideration for this, like two

1019
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: bozos who have no relationship to the fight game other

1020
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: than they're just fans. It's because they're tech oligarchs. Like

1021
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: that's the whole that's the whole gimmick, and my view

1022
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: is the only reason this is so appealing to people. Yes,

1023
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: people might watch it no matter what because it is

1024
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: sort of car crash unusual. But the bigger story there

1025
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: is it's happening in a landscape where actual big, real

1026
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: super far fight excuse me, are not happening, right, the

1027
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: real super fights are not happening. Francis and John got away,

1028
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: you know, and that could still be made tomorrow, but

1029
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: it got away in the way which the UFC has

1030
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: done business. This is filling that void because there's nothing

1031
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: else that's left. So like there's so many layers to

1032
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: the fight game. The good layer is really the UFC

1033
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: has a very like the UFC two ninety is a

1034
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 3: great card, like all that kind of stuff they've really

1035
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: they're still they still have got for the most part.

1036
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: But the big stuff, the really transcendental stuff, the Connor stuff,

1037
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: the RNDA stuff, the next level stuff, all of that

1038
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: has been kind of removed at least so far this year,

1039
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: and now they're trying to supplement it with this, which again,

1040
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, is fine in a different in the larger

1041
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 3: context of like the goofy fights that happened in MMA.

1042
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: But I just want to point out something. If Francis

1043
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: versus John was headlining next week, I don't think there

1044
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: would be nearly as much bullshit talk about this as

1045
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: there is right now. There wouldn't be nearly as much

1046
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: attention paid to it because you'd actually have something real,

1047
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: tangible right in front of you that actually matters and

1048
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: really appeals to the hardcore fight fan inside of you

1049
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 3: to satisfy that. Because that's not there, we're now looking

1050
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: to this sugar high gimmick to get us by.

1051
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: I hate that there is somewhat of a stigma from

1052
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: at least a portion of our audience who are like

1053
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: enough with the you know, BCNLT versus Dana White, Like

1054
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: we're sick of that, We're sick of this bullshit, We're

1055
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: s this tone. But dude, how tone deaf of a

1056
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: year has Dana had. That's why this becomes an inevitability

1057
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: in the show. Dana could have been one, two and

1058
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: three direct things he was tied into. To me, this

1059
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: also kind of you know, it also plays into that Luke,

1060
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: It's that like that shameless lust for this fight rather

1061
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 2: than trying to make within the organization the biggest fights

1062
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: you can, or at least show us that you're trying

1063
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: to make that, you know, Instead it's constant derision for

1064
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: the fighters and nobody wants to fight. And you mix

1065
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: that with power slap, you mix that with everything. It's

1066
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: just it's really it's been a weird ass year for

1067
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: UFC and m MA in general. Like, oh, on a

1068
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: whole is the is the matchmaking actually as bad as

1069
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: we say at times? You know, you can argue it

1070
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: isn't that we're just getting sick and tired of the

1071
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: all the bs that's going on with the UFC colluding

1072
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: together now. Personally, I do think the match making is

1073
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: take a solid step down and could have been a

1074
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: part of our concerns in this top three. But my

1075
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: number three on the things I'm most I think is

1076
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: our biggest low unfortunately plays right into what I'm talking about.

1077
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: It's Dana versus Francis, and it's not that it's not

1078
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: even to me about like who won. And you can't

1079
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: have the opinion that like Francis screwed up or Francis

1080
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: should just take the money and fight John and do

1081
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: for his legacy and if that's your opinion, like I

1082
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: get it, I disagree, but it's just the kind of

1083
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: grossness in my opinion of Dana and how he's going

1084
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: to constantly frame Francis from here on out, you know,

1085
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: And it's just like the fake news element, but also

1086
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: like you're also trying to crush his spirit and his advancement,

1087
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: and don't forget also trying to make a Tyson Fury

1088
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: John Jones fight happen to potentially try to block out

1089
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: and Unganu boxing opponent. It's like petty and it's all

1090
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's also purposeful because Francis succeeding would

1091
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: be the worst thing that can happen to their control

1092
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: of fighter pay and leverage, right, you don't want to

1093
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: create an unhappy group of below you that want to

1094
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: become free agents. But Francis slipped out through the pipes,

1095
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: literally the Shawshank ship pipes that he had to crawl

1096
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: through to get out of there, Luke. And then what

1097
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: did they do? They readjusted the contracts to make it

1098
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: even harder. So the fact that this is still playing out, like,

1099
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: just let Francis be, He's gonna, you know, win, or

1100
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: fail based on your expectations on his own. But he's

1101
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna do it his own way, and congrats to him.

1102
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: Having Dana really on the front lines of this battle.

1103
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: It just felt gross. It really felt gross.

1104
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: Let me just say one thing in defense of us

1105
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: b C, because maybe I'm missing something. If there is

1106
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: consternation about you and me versus Dana as some kind

1107
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: of editorial slant. Someone tell me which promoter b C

1108
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: and I have a cozy relationship with which one?

1109
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: Which one?

1110
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: Would you say BC? Would you say Chawtri No? Would

1111
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: you say Scott Cocher? No?

1112
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Would you say Don Davis?

1113
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: Or we have a relationship with with Scott. But it's

1114
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: not it's not No, it's not cozy.

1115
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: We're not textaal somet like. Who are we clearly favoring

1116
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: in that regard instead of Dana White other one?

1117
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: Is what I'm trying to get at. Nobody there doesn't.

1118
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist.

1119
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: Like Dana is in charge of the biggest fight promotion

1120
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: by a mile, ninety percent of the market, so of

1121
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: course he's going to get ninety percent of the criticism.

1122
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way that it goes.

1123
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 3: It's like if we were really buddy buddy with Cocher

1124
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: or Chotry or somebody else, I would be a little

1125
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: bit more understanding of the pushback. But we don't have

1126
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: a relationship that like that would editorially justify what they're

1127
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: saying in any way, Like it doesn't, it doesn't exist.

1128
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: So that's the thing I want folks to realize. It's

1129
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: not like we're like favoring one over the other. That's

1130
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: not what we're doing.

1131
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, at the end of the day, if

1132
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: you want to say, oh, but you guys with Showtime

1133
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Boxing and Bellator, some of that is is it's the relationship.

1134
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: It's it's you get it right, you know what I mean,

1135
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: Like our parent company owns it. Like we also really

1136
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: when the fights really matter, play it up extra special

1137
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: because they really matter. But you want to hit us

1138
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: with that, Okay, that's what you know. Everybody's tied to somebody.

1139
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: But I am happy that we try our best. We

1140
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: may get it wrong, our takes maybe tone deaf in

1141
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: your eyes in at somebody, but yeah, I feel like

1142
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: we we force everybody to stand try. I mean, look,

1143
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: you got to have critics in it to kind of

1144
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: cut through some of the bs because every statement we

1145
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: do here, especially from data on the UFC, only comes

1146
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: from data and you do have to always gauge that

1147
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: with a you know, but that's every industry with media,

1148
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: Like they try to make it seem like like the

1149
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: MMA media right now is the most intrusive and aggressive

1150
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: of any media has ever been. No, the MMA media

1151
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: is trained to shut the hell up and post selfies

1152
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: of themselves and try to get like that.

1153
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: It's just it's just unix is what they are.

1154
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Is really the reality of it? Yeah, it's just total bullshit.

1155
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: But I just want to point out that, like, you know,

1156
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: this this idea that like we're out to get him,

1157
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: and we're not doing this to every other promoter. It's like,

1158
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Okay, last,

1159
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: but not least for MEBC, this is a simple one.

1160
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: But I just can't believe it's as bad as it is.

1161
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: How about officiating issues constant and this is just start

1162
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: on the excuse me, the boxing side. How about that

1163
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: horrible stoppage by Tony Weeks in the Roly Romero and

1164
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: it's my uh, it's my El Barosso fight. That was awful.

1165
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: Then you had the Mark Nelson stoppage just over the

1166
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 3: weekend in the Jay Rock fight that was terrible. The scorecards,

1167
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 3: Do I even need to go through them again? On

1168
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: the boxing side, they're just utterly you can't even believe

1169
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: what you're getting. Then on the MMA side, I mean,

1170
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: do I even need to continue with that?

1171
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: Now?

1172
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: The stoppages in MMA I think are a little bit

1173
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: harder to get right than they are in boxing. I'm

1174
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: a little bit more forgiving. And I've seen what people say.

1175
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I think even Dana said this, and

1176
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people agree, and I understand why,

1177
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: which is you know, hey, like show me a sport

1178
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: where people aren't really discussing their officiating issues with with

1179
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: how it works. And I'm like, right, it's true that,

1180
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: like in any system where you're introducing human judgment into

1181
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 3: how things are adjudicated, there are going to be questions

1182
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: about it like that, there is conversation, to me, is

1183
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: not really any kind of rebuttal about whether or not

1184
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: we could be doing this better. In fact, the whole

1185
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: point we're trying to say is we should be using

1186
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: the dialogue to get to better results that wouldn't by

1187
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: itself eliminate the problems, but you might get a little

1188
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: bit better. And I keep going back to this, The

1189
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: NFL has a process by which they try to change

1190
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: the rules every off season to get them a little

1191
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: bit closer to more of a targeted, desirable place that

1192
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: works for everybody, And of course there are problems with

1193
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 3: that as well. I'm just kind of pointing out we are,

1194
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: however far we are into the boxing history we are.

1195
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: We are, you know, thirty plus years into UFC history

1196
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: or almost basically at this point. And certainly you can

1197
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: argue in some of the broader sense, maybe officiating has

1198
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: gotten better. I would I would say especially so in MMA,

1199
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: but our process for improvement is either bad or non existent,

1200
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: which makes very solvable problems continue. And I think that's

1201
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: really what folks are homing in on. So for all

1202
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: the progress and there is a lot the continued officiating

1203
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: issues in boxing in MMA, common denominators what athletic Commissions

1204
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: really tells you that there is a lot of shit

1205
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: to work on.

1206
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the that's the biggest way to

1207
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: lose fans. I mean, how many times as a boxing

1208
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: fan have I tried to get somebody into a big

1209
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: fight and the fight I thought was awesome, but it

1210
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: had one of those boxing decisions and people are like,

1211
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: why am I going to invest in this? Why am

1212
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: I going to put my time in it? If I

1213
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: feel the system is rigged? Now, Luke, sometimes I am

1214
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: here to tell you that ain't a robbery. It's just

1215
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: bad officiating. Bad officiating though, still kicks people out the

1216
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: door and tells them not to come back. So we

1217
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: got hey, commissions, can we fix this issue? Yeah? Right,

1218
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: yeah right, Luke.

1219
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what am I saying? All right, we

1220
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: see topic number three. Let's do a twenty twenty three

1221
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: predictions check in. Now. What we did was at the

1222
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: end of last year, we did like a weight class

1223
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 3: by weight class kind of prediction to see what would happen.

1224
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: You can imagine most of these are totally wrong, but

1225
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: some of them actually came out pretty good. Now, in

1226
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: the interest of timing, we see I'm going to go

1227
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: through this a little bit quickly if I can, but

1228
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: we'll start with two sixty five. I thought John Jones

1229
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: would not reach the heavyweight title. You thought Francis would

1230
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: resign with the UFC with Ko's over Jones, and oh,

1231
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 3: you'll re sign excuse me with UFC with Ko's over

1232
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: Jones and gone, boy, we whifted on that one, did

1233
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: we not?

1234
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we stuck the horn on that one. I also

1235
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: throw out there it's not finished yet. Blade's getting a

1236
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: number one contender spot at heavyweight. We could still see him.

1237
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: He's on a isn't he on the streak right now? Luke,

1238
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: he's he's going in the right direction, correct, Curtis Blaze?

1239
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1240
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: And then I also said Fador would come back after

1241
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: his retirement fight. I don't know what the hell I

1242
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: was thinking, Luke, good, good lord, No, no, don't please don't.

1243
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, So for two o five, this part one,

1244
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 3: part I got right. I said I would get up

1245
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: to three of the current top fifteen retiring. Glover retired.

1246
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: We we'll see, we'll see. We'll see how that goes on.

1247
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: Calive ends the year as champ. We'll see. That still

1248
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: remains to be seen. How about this one? Anatotly Mallikin

1249
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: defends both belts now he has now the heavyweight championship

1250
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: and he has the light heavyweight championship.

1251
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: Now, maybe from a timing standpoint, he won't get there.

1252
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: We'll see, but you thought the winner of Tashare versus

1253
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: Hill loses to on Caliev. No, that is actually not

1254
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: a thing that is happening or will happen. I guess,

1255
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: I guess it could.

1256
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: I could still win that. I don't know why. I'm

1257
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: that's a red already on Mikey's list. Its could if

1258
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: that's the next fight and untlia of wins. But look

1259
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: is Jamal Hill training? He looks like he's he's a

1260
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: little rotund on on on Instagram? Is he like sucking

1261
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: it out to try to trick us?

1262
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 3: I think my man's been enjoying championship life. How about

1263
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: that he's been enjoying championship life, go get it?

1264
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: Uh For five?

1265
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: I thought Robert Whitaker would retain the title because I

1266
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: get I was a little bit unclear at the time,

1267
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: but that RoboCop would find.

1268
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: His way into the top fifteen.

1269
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: That proved true. That proved true, I think fleetingly, but

1270
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: it did prove true. You thought uh Izzy and Podata

1271
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: two would happen, That's true, and that Potato would stop him.

1272
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: Not true, Not true, not so fast, my friend.

1273
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: No, No. Uh for one seventy I thought Rochmannov would

1274
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: move into the top three. We'll see that that's still

1275
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: on the table. Uh.

1276
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: And then Christiane wouldn't hold on to welterweight title.

1277
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to happen, because we'll

1278
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: see if he comes back or whatever. I thought Stage

1279
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: Northcutt would never come back. He came back, he won BC. Yeah,

1280
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: and that Connor would fight Chandler one seventy, which is

1281
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: still potentially on the table. You thought Hamsad would win

1282
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: the welterway title. That's out. Masbudal will get a title shot.

1283
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: That's out. But Gregor returns to one seventy only fights

1284
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: once moves to one seventy. Both of those BC still

1285
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: on the table.

1286
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: Everything's falling apart from me in these Luke, I did

1287
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: want to ask you, No, I forgot it already, Yeah,

1288
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: forget it? Keep going? What am I doing?

1289
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: One fifty five, I thought Makachev would finish the year

1290
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: as champion again remains to be seen, but but so

1291
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: far so good. And that Uspin Numbergaminoff would win the

1292
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: Lightweight Grand Prix against remains to be seen, but so

1293
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: far so good. You thought top five gets overhaul completely,

1294
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: and that Charles Olvera turns back into a pumpkin.

1295
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, boy, did that tune change for me over

1296
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: the last few months. The champion still has a name. Oh.

1297
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you quickly in pro wrestling, if

1298
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: they if this was a story they were trying to

1299
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: tell that McGregor couldn't be cleared like medica or in

1300
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: this case, drug testing, they would just do an unsanctioned

1301
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: match and the wrestlers would come out in like jeans

1302
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: and boots and like tape fists, and it'd be, you know, mayhem.

1303
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: Could the UFC just do an exhibition fight McGregor versus Chandler?

1304
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, can't they just get around at Luke?

1305
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: Can't think exhibitions still have to be regulated. Ok, So

1306
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess you could.

1307
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: Dude, what the hell does Connors popping for if he's

1308
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: waiting this long to enter the program? Like, what is

1309
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: he pissing? Green? Luke? What color?

1310
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: He's just just pure trend, just pure trend blown. The

1311
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: whole time h b C had one forty five, I

1312
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: thought Volkanoski would end the year as champion. We shall see,

1313
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: And you thought Ortega makes one more big runs in

1314
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: the one more big run on the way to a

1315
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: title shot.

1316
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: We'll see this one. You got right.

1317
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: You said Iliot Tupora gets a top ten fight and

1318
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: cleans out. I don't know what that means. Aldo. I

1319
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: don't either.

1320
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Aldo did retire, so that.

1321
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: They're not doing too well. Although Tegum may come in

1322
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: and kick some ass and surprise all you.

1323
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: So at one thirty five, I don't really. I think

1324
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 3: both of us are still kind of wait and see.

1325
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: Henry s Udo reclaims the belt. That could happens possible.

1326
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: We're waiting to see what happens with Sergio and then

1327
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: Androge is champed by the end of the year. That's

1328
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: not looking too great. But maybe BC you had Chiito

1329
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: Vera stays being Sean O'Malley kryptonite, which could happen. We

1330
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: don't know. Patchy Mix keeps winning this year. Yes, you're

1331
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: very much on the money with that one. And you

1332
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: said al Joe Morob's stay Friends of Dell fight. Looking

1333
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: pretty good for you at Vansamway.

1334
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm on a roll up vandam wait, thank you. I

1335
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: probably said that Zubeat would come back and win the championship,

1336
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: though Luke I probably said that for featherweight we're just

1337
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: forgetting Yeah, I probably did.

1338
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: You probably did. I said it one twenty five figure

1339
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: goes to Bansamwait that's true.

1340
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Well he didn't debut yet. I think he's still back

1341
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: and forth, right or.

1342
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: Did so remains to be seen, but it is looking good.

1343
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: Remains to be seen. And then you thought three different

1344
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: fighters become flyweight champions, which is still possible. Just not

1345
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: looking all that great. I didn't have one for women's

1346
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: one forty five, but you wrote Kayla's last year with

1347
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: PFL no UFC women's Featherway title by the end of

1348
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 3: this year.

1349
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: That's looking pretty good.

1350
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that that'll that'll turn that'll turn that around.

1351
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: You you put not available, Luke, which is uh, it's

1352
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: it's a good answer because neither are the rankings ever

1353
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: and now this division end title is defense.

1354
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 3: You see. Do you think NA stands for not available?

1355
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where I come from, yes it does.

1356
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not what it stands for. It stands for

1357
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: not applicable. But okay, you know.

1358
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Luke, I mean, you know, we my public

1359
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: school education probably looked a lot different than yours. Just

1360
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: just saying.

1361
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: I also went to public school all my life.

1362
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: I just want you to know that.

1363
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh, you did two different high schools. One was like

1364
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: a like an all boys school, like Dead Poets Society

1365
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: and some show.

1366
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: I went to two ordinary American high schools. One was

1367
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: Valdosta High School, which is great for football, and one

1368
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: was mary at a High School, which is not great

1369
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 3: for much.

1370
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: But you you were like, I'm actively going into the

1371
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: direction of the debate team and the math team. You

1372
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1373
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: Like that?

1374
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, I graduated.

1375
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: I graduated high school with nearly thirty credit hours before

1376
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: I even went to college because I had so much

1377
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 3: ap credit.

1378
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: So, okay, this is a true story. This is a

1379
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: true story. My guidance counselor was in her last year

1380
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: of her career, and she had stacks of diet coke,

1381
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: like twelve packs that went all the way to like

1382
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: the ceiling in her office. I had to alert her

1383
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: halfway through my senior year that I was on pace

1384
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: to be one half credit short of graduating. Now that

1385
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: wasn't because of poor grades or whatever. That was because

1386
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: I purposely tried to take the minimum amount of classes

1387
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: you could and still graduate so I could have all

1388
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: study halls. Luke and I could be a social you know, superstar,

1389
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: and I was also lazy, but also Luke, what ended

1390
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: up happening was they gained me community service credit for

1391
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: something I had done, so that filled that gap. But

1392
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: that's a great I barely made it under the way

1393
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: it said up, you're like, no, I had thirty college

1394
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: credits in the book already.

1395
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a year of college done before I

1396
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 3: ever went to college. That the thing that only worked

1397
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: out for me was people do it use it different ways.

1398
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: But for me, because I had so many credits that

1399
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: there was never a single semester of actual college where

1400
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: I had to take more than twelve credit hours. I

1401
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: was always because normal as fifteen or even higher fifteen, eighteen,

1402
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: Some even do twenty. I never took more than twelve

1403
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: because I never had to. So that was pretty great.

1404
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: Wo.

1405
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: But to be fair, not that I can rival you

1406
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: and shove it in your face. How many chicks did

1407
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: you fog?

1408
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: Luke?

1409
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: That's that'll sum up that period of your life.

1410
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: You know, my body counts not super high, but I

1411
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: bet it's higher than yours.

1412
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, Luke. You know what I

1413
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: would often do fumble on the goal line.

1414
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 3: You know, oh, you know in that sense, you and

1415
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: I remember that one game Tiki Barber had like four

1416
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: fumbles like that was one night for me in college.

1417
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: That was one history. Yeah, history won't say that I

1418
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: would some gross dirt hall who had no game. I mean,

1419
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: I had a little game in the right moment. But

1420
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: what his what the box score won't indicate, Luke, was

1421
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: that I was you know, the the live odds had

1422
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: me scoring, the live odds had it had them, you know,

1423
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 2: my minus seven hundred. This thing will end positively, Luke.

1424
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: But I found a way to You know.

1425
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: I've never told you.

1426
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: There's three stories I've never told you, two of which

1427
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: happened at Wayman Mary where I had epic fumbles. But

1428
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: the most epic fumble I ever had was actually I

1429
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: was visiting my buddy who went to Georgetown at the time.

1430
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 3: I'll have to save that, you know what, I'll save

1431
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: it for the next there you go, og RSD. It

1432
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: is truly that if I tell you the story, You're

1433
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 3: gonna be like, you're the dumbest motherfucker I've ever heard,

1434
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: And you'd be right. You'd be right. Actually do it

1435
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: very well.

1436
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could do I could say more, but

1437
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 2: let's hold it. Let's hold it back.

1438
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: So for one thirty five women's I thought they were

1439
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: going to make Amanda versus Valentina three. That didn't happen, obviously,

1440
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: And that you thought Nunez takes two trilogy fights in

1441
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: twenty transferit be one with payin one with Valentina Home

1442
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: stays ranked, So you got the Home Stays ranked?

1443
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: Part we with Can I ask you something real quick?

1444
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: Why the hell has UFC not fixed this Holly Home

1445
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: July fifteenth main event against Mary Bueno Silva when when like,

1446
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: aren't you taking the risk that Home loses? Who are

1447
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: you put in that vacant title fight? You know what

1448
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like it just I know they're doing it,

1449
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: probably because it was already announced and they're using home

1450
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: star value to try to sell that as a main event.

1451
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: But like, dude, that's that's a bad that's a really

1452
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: bad main event. Shouldn't you jump in and like try

1453
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: to fix that or save Holly for a I don't know.

1454
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: Am I wrong to think Holly versus Juliana for the

1455
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: vacant beld is probably the move?

1456
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: I agree?

1457
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: But welcome to the Maria Bueno Silva Era.

1458
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

1459
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: BC. For one, I thought Aaron Blanchfield would earn a

1460
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: title shot. Now she's not quite there yet. Mikey Mark

1461
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 3: de Green, it's not well.

1462
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: If she beats Tyler Santo, she would in theory.

1463
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: It's looking pretty good. You thought Beings too.

1464
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: This is what Mikey literally wrote in the fucking Thing,

1465
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: Being's two rival one fifteen as best women's division. I

1466
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: think he meant begins to rival one fifteen the women's

1467
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: best division, which.

1468
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: I would say is pretty true.

1469
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that that that worked out very well for

1470
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: me because look at the Hey, by the way, did

1471
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: you see Tachiana Suarez is dumbfounded by Rose's decision to

1472
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: move up to one twenty five and fight for Roe.

1473
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: Thinks it's a bad idea and said she was hoping

1474
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: to have gone through Rose to get a Strawway title

1475
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: shot on this comeback.

1476
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: I did not. That's interesting.

1477
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we'll have to see.

1478
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: Let me finish this real quick.

1479
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: One fifteen.

1480
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: I thought John Wiley would remain the champion. Again. We'll

1481
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: see how that goes. But so far, so good. You

1482
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 3: thought Rose would win the title. Now I don't know

1483
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: if you specified, well, I guess you did specify one fifteen,

1484
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: but now she's at one twenty five. Still, I think

1485
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: if she does win a title this year, I would

1486
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: I would give it credit.

1487
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: You also thought.

1488
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: Nate Die this is general ones, Nate Diaz boxes Jake Paul.

1489
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: You sold that that's actually gonna happen. However, you thought

1490
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: Tank versus Ryan would sell a million pay per view buys.

1491
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: That proved to be true.

1492
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: You thought the James Crouse situation, BC says ufc Clean's

1493
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: house with anyone related to the situation that proved to

1494
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: be true. So far remains unclear about whether the big

1495
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: big women's match will happen in boxing, which you thought

1496
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 3: would happen, and we both agreed. Habi becomes twenty to

1497
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: twenty three Coach of the Year, which I guess could happen,

1498
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: But he's kind of taking a step back, so I

1499
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: don't know.

1500
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: He's taking a big step back, it seems right.

1501
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, one of us thought it was gonna be

1502
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: the Dana White Slap League is over before it starts.

1503
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: That's not true.

1504
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 3: It's still going in some form, and that I think

1505
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: I thought Fader might upset Beer on CBS which is

1506
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: absolutely fucking false.

1507
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: Wait, is that a win? That's a win for Data then,

1508
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: because we actively said although I thought it was going

1509
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: to be more about the bad pr of it, but

1510
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: we actively said that power Slap would would come and

1511
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: go not come back after first season. I even thought

1512
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: at that point, like would it even survive the slap

1513
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: that Data?

1514
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 3: So we were right that it wouldn't last on TV,

1515
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: but we were not right that it would go away completely.

1516
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: So is that that's a win for Dana?

1517
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1518
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: He went to Rumble Sports the money, I mean, they

1519
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: were paying him two thousand and five prices to Luke.

1520
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 3: And dude, I'm still getting emails about it. I don't

1521
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: ever get emails from UFCPR staff, but boy, when there's

1522
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: something slap going on, they don't ever forget about me.

1523
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: Let's see, dude, what if we created a theme song

1524
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: and prevent and presented it to Dana like, like we

1525
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: have friends in the music scene. What if we got

1526
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 2: O'tel and John Gorley from Portugal to Man and you

1527
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 2: know those metal guys that listen to our show that

1528
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: you know and the Death World Luke, and we created

1529
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: like slap it Slap the dick Now slap it, and

1530
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: we'll if Apathy come in and give like a hot rhyme,

1531
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: Luke or Vinie Paz. I mean, if we pull our

1532
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: resources and create the ultimate Slaptick theme song. I'm sure

1533
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: if it sounds a little bit like uh, taste the

1534
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,959
Speaker 2: pain or face the Pain, Luke, if it sounds like

1535
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: like New Metal two thousand and one, ish, we might

1536
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: be able to do it.

1537
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: Face the pain, taste the piss, all the same. All right,

1538
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: let's see last but not least I thought, Jeron Ennis

1539
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: comes on in twenty twenty three. I'll see how he

1540
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: does next week, so we'll go from there. All RIGHTBC

1541
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: Topic number four. We're almost done here. Fights to make

1542
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: in the second half of twenty twenty three, So now

1543
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: let's look forward to the rest of the year. Give

1544
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: me some fights to make in twenty twenty three.

1545
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, we've already said it enough. You know why Usik

1546
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: versus Tyson Fury for all four titles. We got to

1547
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: see it to close the year. I don't care who's paying.

1548
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: We got to see it, and it does by the way,

1549
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: I feel like we have a good chance of doing that,

1550
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: even if that card doesn't turn into to Wilder versus

1551
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: Joshua and the Komine and Nghanu in the first fight.

1552
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: Like you hear a lot of back and forth. Who knows.

1553
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: I only care about that main event needs to happen.

1554
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. I'm gonna throw in this for the UFC.

1555
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be likely the way things look heading

1556
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: right now. But the UFC fight that I want to

1557
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: see that's not been signed or announced, Luke, it would

1558
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: be Israel out of signing against Hamzat Chimayav. I think

1559
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: that's the last matchup in that division that would really

1560
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: matter to me as a fan to get me all

1561
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: fired up for Izzy to do before a potential move. Now,

1562
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: I keep saying the move to two five. It could

1563
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: just be my head in my mind and not hearing God.

1564
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: You know, God's lips are and ears aren't anywhere near

1565
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: that he may stay there longer. But if he did, man,

1566
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: I really think the UFC is airing by even with

1567
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: that big weight miss, by not putting the full motor

1568
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: behind Chamayev and rushing him to an opportunity here even

1569
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: though he's only had what one middleweight fighter too. I

1570
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 2: guess Kevin Holland or maybe that was a catchway. I

1571
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: don't know anymore, Luke, what that counts as. The whole

1572
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: point is that Chamayav has that special thing. Let's if

1573
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: you if he's gonna fight middleweight and not welterweight, then

1574
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: let's do it, and let's do it right now because

1575
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: you got to figure out who might be next or

1576
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: who might be fighting for that vacant title. Will DDP

1577
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: Luke become the African world Champion? I don't know, Probably not.

1578
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: But why do we not?

1579
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly? Why are we not kind of.

1580
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: Going intause of yoga?

1581
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good debate we had on pregame preview,

1582
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: so look quickly on uh on on CHAMAIAV. I read

1583
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: a comment from him this morning to a I think

1584
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: to a podcast I'm not sure, said he's negotiating an

1585
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: usman fight at a catchweight, and I don't hate that

1586
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: fight at all. I don't even if you used it

1587
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: as sort of a like a chance, you could still

1588
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: come out of that fight and fight in either division.

1589
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: Really you could, but you wouldn't be like upset if

1590
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: the UFC announced it is his next fighters, sham, I

1591
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: have right, wouldn't. That's that's a big deal. That's a

1592
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: there's so much intrigue on that fight. Why are we

1593
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: not doing it?

1594
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 3: I mean, hate it is a strong word, but like again,

1595
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't need to see like him, like beat five contenders,

1596
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: but could you beat one first? Could you beat one?

1597
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, So you're okay. I don't think that's unfair

1598
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: stick with these. I mean, it's just it's weird, like

1599
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: he was linked to Paulo Costa for a while and

1600
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: then it did look like he was going to go

1601
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: to welterweight, and now I'm not even sure where he's going.

1602
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, fair enough, all right for me, this one's

1603
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: pretty simple.

1604
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: I think BC has convinced me that win or lose

1605
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 3: after next weekend, Volkanovsky's gonna go to one fifty five again.

1606
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: There are some ways where that's obviously not going to

1607
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: be true, but probably I think it is true. And

1608
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: so in that case, here's the one I want to

1609
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: see BC. I want to see Iliotaporia versus Max Holloway.

1610
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: I think that might be the fight to make, to

1611
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: be honest with you, now, of course, if different things happen,

1612
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: then we could change it up, but I think that's

1613
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: just an absolutely amazing contest. I think it's a very

1614
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: difficult one for Max. I think it's a difficult one

1615
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: for Teporia. It will tell you if you know, Ilia

1616
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: still has some things to work on, or if Max

1617
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: is still able to hang on to you know, a

1618
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 3: relatively high top spot there obviously just under Bolkonowski himself.

1619
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: So that's the one I want to see next, I

1620
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: think is I think that's the fight to make it

1621
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: one forty five. I fight to make an MMA, all.

1622
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: Right, And just to close, Look, I'm only arguing for

1623
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: this for Tremaiev, which is to just blow up the

1624
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: meritocracy and push him forward because out of Signy's beating

1625
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: everybody else and because he's the rare guy. I think

1626
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: you should do that, all right. That's why I said that.

1627
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: I also had Jermante Davis Devan Haney on my Bengo

1628
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: card here as a boxing fight. I love. I don't

1629
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: think it happens, but I love it to close this

1630
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: year back to you, Lou.

1631
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah lastly, Yeah, yours were Usik Fury, Izzy and Hamzat

1632
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: and then Jervonte and then Devin Haney. For mine, I

1633
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: mentioned II to Portia Max, the one I want to

1634
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: see Is again. He has to win next weekend first,

1635
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 3: but I want to see Jeron Boots Ennis fight the

1636
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: winner of Spence Crawford. Now whether that will happen remains

1637
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: to be seen. Remember, on the Spence Crawford side, they

1638
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: have a mutually enforceable rematch clause, so either guy can

1639
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: trigger it so that you know who knows what we're

1640
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 3: going to get with that. But in the event that

1641
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 3: there is no interest in that, I think Jeron Ennis,

1642
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: assuming he wins this weekend, would be the fight to

1643
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: make it. And then BC, I'm not even saying I

1644
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 3: want to see this fight because I think it's the

1645
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: best fight that could be made, Like far from it,

1646
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: but just for what it would do to the sports,

1647
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 3: I want to see Francis fight Deontay Wilder. All I've

1648
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: said it before. Of all the boxing fights you can

1649
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 3: make with an MMA crossover, that one makes the most sense.

1650
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: Wilder was in the headlines yesterday because he wanted to

1651
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: give Andy Ruiz a seventy thirty split. He would take

1652
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: seventy Ruiz one to thirty, or actually, as I say,

1653
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: Ruiz would receive thirty, and Ruiz and his dad were like, no, no,

1654
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: it's fifty to fifty Andy, Andy Andrew to me, it's

1655
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: not fifty to fifty, You're lucky.

1656
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: If it's seventy thirty. Deonta is a much bigger name

1657
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: for sure.

1658
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 3: That would be the fight to make if you could,

1659
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 3: if you could get talk some sense into Andy Ruiz.

1660
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know who else you could get that kind

1661
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: of money from, or even fifty to fifty front that

1662
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: would matter. But so if that's not going to happen, hey,

1663
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to see Francis versus Derek chez Aura.

1664
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's you know, great for Francis if

1665
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: it happens, Francis versus Deonte make it happen.

1666
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I can't fight on that. Mikey's giving

1667
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: me a real time dead wrong. Remember I questioned if

1668
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: Curtis Blades could still be a number one contender this

1669
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: year and if he's on a winning streak. Yeah, I

1670
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: apparently forgot that. Sergei Pavlovitch just sent him to.

1671
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, send him to the Land of wind and Ghosts,

1672
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: didn't he?

1673
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: No, I will take that back as a clear l

1674
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: thank you.

1675
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: All right, BC, Last but not least, Topic number five,

1676
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 3: biggest story lines for the second half of twenty twenty

1677
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: three were halfway through, So between July first and the

1678
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: end of December. Before January one, give me the biggest

1679
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 3: storylines happening in the combat sports world.

1680
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching. I don't want to say I'm just I'm

1681
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: watching with a keen eye. What's going on in Saudi

1682
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: Arabia with boxing. You know, it's been a couple of

1683
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: big years for both Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia and

1684
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: bringing big time events, and I know, specifically with Saudi Arabia,

1685
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's a sports washing element. There's certain elements.

1686
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: Look at the whole live golf situation that have people

1687
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: oneasy and I get that, but look, they have created

1688
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: a seemingly legitimate promotion boxing promotion there. They signed Alexander Usik. Again,

1689
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: there's some feeling from some people that that was the

1690
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: only way he could inevitably get to Fury was by

1691
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: doing that. In terms of how the business people behind

1692
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: the scenes may be aligned, not so sure about that.

1693
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: You do hear some Daniel Kinahan stuff now and then

1694
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: you never know what's really true and how connected all

1695
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: that is. But there's also rumors that this promotion wants

1696
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,879
Speaker 2: Devin Haney and has met with him and wants Deontay Wilder,

1697
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: whether or not, like it's hard to know right until

1698
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 2: they get a bigger public profile like what their intentions

1699
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: would be. But I think there's two things to look

1700
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: at in terms of the Greater Saudi Arabia thing. But

1701
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: they're both connected, and they're connected by money, and money

1702
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: moves mountains in boxing, and I mean, this is prize fighting. Money.

1703
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: It can be the great equalizer. It's why Don King

1704
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: and Bob Ahram, you know, in the eighties and nineties,

1705
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: could hate each other that much, but obviously put it

1706
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: all aside when the money mattered and you could make

1707
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: the really big fight. That's always the great equalizer in

1708
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: the in the in the hardest ones. And if this

1709
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 2: supercard comes off in December, and again, as I said earlier,

1710
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: it could be great if it's a triple header and

1711
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: we get all these huge fights. It could be awesome

1712
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: too if it's just furyon Usic for the Undispeted Championship.

1713
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 2: Either way, I get some concerns and questions. When WW

1714
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: went over there, there was a lot of concerns and

1715
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: questions that they're taking blood money in the sand, you know,

1716
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: as we would say, calling their pay per views that

1717
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 2: and say, you know, with the human rights violations and

1718
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: all this and the women's rights, like, how cool is this?

1719
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: Some reason, I boxing fans we don't tend to care

1720
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: as much because boxing tends to hang out in that side, right.

1721
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 2: It's the red light district of sports, as Bird Sugar

1722
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: once famously coined it, or in famous. I'm sure somebody

1723
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 2: coined that earlier before him, but he used to say,

1724
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: so they they might just be here for a while.

1725
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: As like the big destination. I'm not saying to take

1726
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: over Las Vegas, but it's gonna be interesting to see

1727
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: how many big fights end up ending up there, not

1728
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: just because certain people can't travel to the US, but

1729
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 2: because the money they're offering is so outrageous. Remember eighty

1730
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: five million to Anthony Joshua for the Ruis rematch to

1731
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: go there. It's gonna be interesting to see if they

1732
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 2: can continue to use money. I get what they're trying

1733
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: to do, create a new image for that land, make

1734
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: it a travel destination. Babu Dabi has done that, you know,

1735
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: do a lot of things there, but they're circumventing the

1736
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: process because they have more money, and they're making the

1737
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: potential here of making these really huge fights that maybe

1738
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: weren't happening before. So moral dilemma in there. In some ways,

1739
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 2: there's also a moral dilemma watching boxing. But when you

1740
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 2: do watch it, you watch it to see the really

1741
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,520
Speaker 2: big fights. And I'm wondering if this Saudi Arabia existence

1742
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: as either promoter or just large site feed destination has

1743
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: a bright future, and how much will care about the

1744
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: other stuff, Luke if they keep delivering on the big fights.

1745
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: I got to tell you, the whole golf oil world

1746
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: getting involved in sports more and more is actually a

1747
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: massive point of concern for me. I mean, you mentioned

1748
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: everything that's already hapened in boxing again I mentioned I

1749
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: think I said it on Monday Show, where you have

1750
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 3: Monumental Sports, which is the company that owns the Caps,

1751
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: they own the Wizards, they own the Mystics and some

1752
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: other stuff as well, and they just took I think

1753
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: five or six billion from the Qatari Sovereign Wealth Fund,

1754
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 3: so that's growing all of a sudden. And then you

1755
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: have this whole thing with live golf, which by the way,

1756
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 3: regulators are going to break up. Everyone thinks PGA and

1757
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 3: Live is now a thing. Trust me when I tell

1758
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: you that's going to get broken up. But okay, they're

1759
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 3: at least attempting that. And now this like they're attempting

1760
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 3: it on that side, and b see, you know, you know,

1761
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: Messi is an official ambassador for Saudi Arabia. But he

1762
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: did say so this is like not really the best

1763
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: way to put it, but he did say something like

1764
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: why didn't I take that one point six billion dollar

1765
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: deal to go play over there? And he was like,

1766
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 3: some things are more important than money. Now, of course

1767
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 3: he's still making ass loads of money, so it's not

1768
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 3: really the fairest thing. But like, the reason I bring

1769
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: that up is to say, like, some of these guys

1770
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 3: and other pro sports are going to make even in

1771
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: the United States or you're exorbitant sums of money, that

1772
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: they're not going to really be interested in playing in

1773
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia or whatever the case.

1774
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: But in Prize Fighting BC, where the name.

1775
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 3: Of the game is get the bag and then get out,

1776
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 3: I mean nothing is built more for sports washing than

1777
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: combat sports. People don't care who they're getting money from,

1778
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: and you have a situation here where people have, in

1779
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: this case from the Saudis or whoever, extraordinarily vast sums

1780
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 3: of wealth that they're willing to just give away in

1781
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 3: ways that even top European or North American or Australian

1782
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 3: promoters or whoever couldn't even touch. Yeah, I fear that

1783
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: they're going to have a huge role in the fight

1784
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 3: game going forward, but it remains to be seen how

1785
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1786
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean they want to be the first time, Luke.

1787
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not just linking boxing's long history with

1788
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: like the mafia controlling it at some points. And you know,

1789
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean Las Vegas in terms of US is like

1790
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: our most sizely spaceport. It's like the place with no

1791
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: rules that you go. I don't know if Saudi Arabia

1792
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: can grow to that level, but I don't think people

1793
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: are going to put up a fight about it at all.

1794
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they are either.

1795
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 3: Again, if you're a poor person who's been fist fighting

1796
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: for a living and now you get a chance to

1797
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: make I'm just gonna make up with some fifty million dollars,

1798
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 3: Like what am I going to say to you to

1799
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: make him turn that down? It just seems unfathomable. But okay,

1800
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: I'll make this one quick be see for my biggest storyline,

1801
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: very very fast. We've already talked about it a lot

1802
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: in the lay of the land, but I do think

1803
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury's next move is really really critical. And the

1804
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: only thing I want to drive home one more time

1805
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: is for as good as this year has been, the

1806
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 3: heavyweight side has been really missing. I think if the

1807
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 3: heavyweights have a decent second half led by Tyson Fury,

1808
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: you know, either shitting or getting all off the pot

1809
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 3: one way or the other, I think it could really

1810
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,520
Speaker 3: help things. Obviously would really help it if he contributed

1811
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: by fighting Usik or somebody that somebody cared about, you know,

1812
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: Francis or whatever. But he has a chance to make

1813
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: to your point, a really strong year for twenty twenty

1814
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: three magic by getting out there and fighting Usik. So

1815
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 3: there's still some salvageable territory BC. We just have to

1816
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 3: see what he's gonna do.

1817
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. My number two Luke down following is look the

1818
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: bellatour potential sale here is interesting on a lot of

1819
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: levels because their roster, you know, especially from a critical

1820
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: standpoint in terms of quality of fighters, is pretty damn high.

1821
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think everyone truly gives them the

1822
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: full credit in that regard, especially the younger fighters that

1823
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 2: are coming up at the champions with these dominant runs

1824
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: from you know, across many divisions. But if PFL buys them, Luke,

1825
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: that is an entirely different discussion in my opinion than

1826
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: anyone else, because now you have the opportunity the potential

1827
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: merging two very good secondary elite global MMA organizations but

1828
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: still undersneath UFC and joining powers. I think that really

1829
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: might be the outside of developing a pay per view

1830
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: division and delivering pay per views that people want to buy.

1831
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: That's still the jury still out on PFL if they

1832
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: can do that to maximize the potential that they're trying

1833
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: to create here. But if you double the quality of

1834
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: your roster with an acquisition like that, you know you're

1835
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of legitimate fight make big fights

1836
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: to make. And we haven't seen that in a while.

1837
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: Someone really knocking on UFC's door. And it's not again

1838
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: the wishing that somebody comes up and takes their share, No,

1839
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: it's UFC is only going to be as great as

1840
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: they can be when they have reason to same thing

1841
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: with WWE, which is why when AEW rose up and

1842
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: I was still covering that sport or that entertainment genre,

1843
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: it was like, Oh, let's see what this can do

1844
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: to disrupt the business and make people bring it. It's

1845
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: a reason why I'll always hold twenty thirteen in my

1846
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: heart as a boxing so close because Al Hayman brought

1847
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: his fighters to show time and it was like war

1848
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: between the two big networks, and it was great as

1849
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: a boxing fantasy. Last minute huge fight subbed in like

1850
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: Groner versus Ma Donna out of nowhere, and you're like, damn,

1851
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: this is fun. I wonder what the MMA industry can

1852
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: look like in a year and a half if if

1853
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: this happened, and could they become a new strikeforce level

1854
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: of just can't you have to watch it? You can

1855
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: miss it. It'd be really fun to be to be

1856
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: a part of covering it up and on the way

1857
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: up and seeing how UFC responds. Maybe that's the nineties

1858
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: wrestling fan in me of the WCWWWF rivalry, But what

1859
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: did that rivalry produce? Both sides going for it every

1860
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 2: time out? It's you know, the money's got to make

1861
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: sense when you do that, and PFL is willing it

1862
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: seems to risk it all, go all in on it.

1863
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: This would be the power move, This would be the

1864
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: next power move. It's a it's a huge, huge power move.

1865
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: But think of the entertainment, Luke, that's gonna come off

1866
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: of that. The question, the scrutiny. That's fun when you're

1867
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: in this business. That's fun. I think the fans would

1868
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: enjoy that. Just the same.

1869
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 3: I would argue that no one can be strikeforce in

1870
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 3: a world where UFC is this big, right, I just

1871
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: you know they're not.

1872
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.

1873
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 3: The UFC has always been big in the time since

1874
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 3: I've been covering it, but it wasn't nearly as big

1875
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: then as it is now. And when I say big

1876
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 3: and I mean just popular, I mean like the actual

1877
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: market share. Like it just doesn't work. However, the spirit

1878
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,839
Speaker 3: of your point I agree with completely. They the UFC

1879
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: is best when the UFC is forced to compete, that's

1880
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: the best version. That's when they roll out the big guns.

1881
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 3: That's when they try. That's when they really white glove.

1882
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: And when they white glove something, they do it better

1883
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: than anybody else. Like that's just the reality. So what

1884
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: I want is someone to kind of kick them in

1885
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 3: the rear a little bit. Obviously you'd get better fights

1886
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 3: by combining those rosters, that's a thumbs up, but to

1887
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 3: the extent that they could attract talent and force pay

1888
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: up and like you know, now the UFC wants to

1889
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 3: cut counter program and we're gonna make the best card

1890
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: we can to dunk on those fuckers. That's when that's

1891
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 3: when you get really good UFC. So I share that

1892
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 3: sentiment for MEBC, biggest story that I'm paying attention to.

1893
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: How about Nate DZ is future Now? He fights pretty soon.

1894
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: He fights on my birthday, August fifth, So I'll be

1895
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: curious to see what happens in the Jake Paul fight.

1896
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: But BC, I'm kind of I don't We're still, what

1897
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 3: is it, six weeks this shout from that fight. I

1898
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 3: know that there's the fight's probably going to do decently.

1899
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, back when Jake Paul was fighting

1900
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva and we were there, back when Jake Paul

1901
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: was fighting you know, whoever the fuck Tyron Woodley for

1902
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: the second time, I thought man An eight DS fight

1903
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 3: would be huge, and I still think it will do well.

1904
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how well it will do. I

1905
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: remain I want to be very clear about this agnostic

1906
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: on that I think, you know, in general, I think

1907
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand is possible.

1908
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know how likely.

1909
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: But if he gets like knocked out BC, because he's

1910
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 3: talked about going back to the UFC and fighting Connor,

1911
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, of course that would be a

1912
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 3: big fight. I mean, make no mistake, where is Connor

1913
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: getting back to the thing we were asking earlier? And

1914
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, I know a lot of folks think that

1915
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 3: Nate might go in there and tune up Jake. Listen,

1916
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: I'd be cool with that, Like, Nate's a great guy

1917
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 3: and has been, you know, a delight to cover in

1918
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 3: his career. But I think folks are kind of sleeping

1919
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: on Jake Paul a little bit. Like Jake knocking Nate out.

1920
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's likely, but it's definitely definitely

1921
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: on the table. And if that happens, what does that

1922
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 3: do to return to the UFC? What does that do

1923
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 3: to his stock? Or converse LYBC, how about this, let's

1924
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: talk about the other side. What if he goes in

1925
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: there and just absolutely fucking starches Jake Paul in like

1926
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 3: a highlight reel kind of finish. What would that do

1927
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: to the legend of nads How much harder would that

1928
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 3: be to get him back into the UFC.

1929
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot of different ways this could go.

1930
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: I feel like good point because he's already full Caro

1931
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: level and you know, as an anti hero. But like

1932
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: also like he's been getting love lately and it's you know,

1933
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: rightfully deserved. But if he damn I mean, if he

1934
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: if he had stopped Jake Paul or even just beats

1935
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: him Luke, there's gonna be like a victory lap element

1936
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: that we ed Anderson Silva tried too. That was kind

1937
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: of cool in his own way. But yeah, I do

1938
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: wonder though about that Nate and Connor trilogy in light

1939
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: of the questions we have about Connor right now. I

1940
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: think the questions about Connor, by the way, make the

1941
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: likelihood of them fighting a third one it increased because

1942
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: I think for both it's sort of like that safe

1943
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: landing they know it's probably the biggest cash out they

1944
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: have left, and also that you can really get that

1945
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: competitive spirit back by trying to win the rivalry. But Luke.

1946
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes when fighters wait too long to finish a rivalry

1947
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: or to deliver the inevitable rematch that we all wanted.

1948
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: In this case, it would be a trilogy to decide

1949
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 2: it all. It can really be too late, right think

1950
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: like Leonard Durand three, for example, like a classic one

1951
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: where you're like, ah, shit, man, we didn't really need that.

1952
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: Look at that. That's not fun at all. Even Triple

1953
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: G Canelo three ended up being like that and you know,

1954
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: not as bad, but still kind of feeling like that.

1955
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Do you still think Connor and Nate if it happened

1956
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 2: late next year could get the public hyped on an

1957
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: algic level for that and forget about like the two

1958
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: of that, Like the two of them don't need to

1959
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: show us that they're still great. Could they put forth

1960
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: a promotion and then a fun enough fight where where

1961
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: you'd be like, man, I'm glad we finished off this

1962
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: movie trilogy that.

1963
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: Was I absolutely think that.

1964
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we have memory hold this, but folks keep

1965
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: talking about like, oh, it was so great when Chuck

1966
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: fought Vanderlay ladies and gentlemen. That was not the way

1967
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: we discussed that fight at the time. At the time

1968
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 3: when that fight happened, we were like happy to get it,

1969
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 3: but we were both like, yeah, both these guys are

1970
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 3: a little bit long in the tooth. It's not the

1971
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: same as it could have been back when we were

1972
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: supposed to get it many moons before. Folks forget that

1973
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: the UFC brought Vandalay Silva over to the UFC when

1974
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: he was still signed with Pride to do a face

1975
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: off with Chuck and that fight never happened. And then

1976
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: eventually Vanderli had to leave Pride or Pride dissolved, and

1977
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: of course he got signed by UFC. But you get

1978
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 3: the point I'm trying to make is by the time

1979
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 3: that fight happened, it was well passed. Not expiration date,

1980
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 3: but ideal date, Like no doubt about it. Now you're

1981
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 3: talking about a third fight between guys. I'm just pointing out,

1982
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: as long as Connor doesn't completely implode or things go

1983
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 3: super poorly for Nate, I think as long as things

1984
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: are just okay, they absolutely could run that back. It

1985
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: wouldn't be what the first two were, but it would

1986
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: still be something that the public would want percent. So

1987
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 3: the only way if it doesn't happen is if it's

1988
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 3: like cataclysmic on both ends.

1989
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: I guess my fear is that it would happen. We'd

1990
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: all be jazz for it, but it would just feel sour.

1991
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: It would feel expired, you know what I mean. You

1992
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 2: never want that feeling. You never want that feeling.

1993
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly, once they started trading, once they

1994
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 3: started trading, I think folks would look past it. I

1995
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: really do. I mean, I'm not saying give me, give me,

1996
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 3: give me your last big storyline for the second half

1997
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three.

1998
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a scare. You gotta watch this closely. It's

1999
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 2: the Ryan Garcia versus Oscar de la Hoyat court battle.

2000
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: And I say scared because like, this is not where

2001
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 2: you want to see a young star in Ryan who

2002
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: just had this BREAKFORWTH through commercial performance. Didn't win, No,

2003
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: it didn't didn't come ruined full shining colors, But credit

2004
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: to him for making the Tank Davis fight. And now

2005
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: his brand is like primed and doubled and people know

2006
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: who he is and moving up to a new division

2007
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: full time. And he had already missed a huge chunk.

2008
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: I think it was two years right when he or

2009
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: was it a year and a half something like that

2010
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: when he had the mental health set back and the

2011
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: wrist injury. He's I don't know how many big fights

2012
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna win or lose, but he's gonna be fun

2013
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: to watch. There's potential here if this court thing goes

2014
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 2: in dark places, that we won't get to see him

2015
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 2: fight at all. But there's some questions also within that

2016
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: of in my opinion, does Golden Boy have the money

2017
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: in the want to stretch this out into an elongated battle.

2018
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: Think andre Ward versus Dan Goosen. Now, in that case,

2019
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Ward went back to the well two more times and

2020
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: ended up losing I think three court decisions against Goosen,

2021
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: who felt he had the contract backing him up here.

2022
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I don't even we don't have

2023
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: access to the contract. I would assume that Oscar is

2024
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 2: gonna have some potential leverage here, unless Ryan's team could

2025
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 2: prove that they didn't live up to hit you know

2026
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: what he wanted as a promoter. Either way, if you

2027
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: go down that road for Ryan's side, it would keep

2028
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: him out of action, which is not good unless freedom

2029
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 2: is the only thing he wants. And that's what kept

2030
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: andre Ward still fighting for that because he just wanted

2031
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: that freedom so badly. And for Oscar, I don't know

2032
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: if they have the money to do that, if they

2033
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: have the money to go through that, because while you're

2034
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: using all these resources to fight Ryan, you're keeping him

2035
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: out of the ring, which means your big meal ticket

2036
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: is not producing for your promotion. Oscar's been acting erratic,

2037
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: that's nothing new, but you know him to come out

2038
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: and tweet let's make Mongia against Benavidez, It's like, well,

2039
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: what does that mean? You're gonna tell his own that

2040
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna go to showtime again? Like you know, it's

2041
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: probably not gonna happen that way, right, and on that fight,

2042
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 2: it's not big enough for a two network pay per view,

2043
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 2: nor would you assume showtime?

2044
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 3: By the way, can I just say you, I thought

2045
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: that tweet was so fucking weird, especially especially after a

2046
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 3: day where you just had burlonga win. And then Berlanga

2047
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: and Herne himself were like, yeah, Mungia fight would make sense.

2048
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: They're both under his own and this fucking guy's talking

2049
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 3: about David Benavidez. I'll say, Oscar, what are you doing?

2050
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you would ask me on the show the

2051
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: other day why is Oscar being so aggressive toward Eddie

2052
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: Hearn and afterwards we were texting. I think it's because

2053
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 2: Oscar was building toward casing Mungia out against Canelo and

2054
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: another big pity And look, Oscar does the big fights well.

2055
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 2: Obviously you can argue how much behind the scenes he's

2056
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 2: actually doing or was it his team And a lot

2057
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: of that big fight history does involve Al Hayman working

2058
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 2: with him too, but you know he does. I think

2059
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: Oscar loved being back part of a huge fight again

2060
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 2: in Tank versus versus Yeah versus Ryan, And I think

2061
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Oscar inserted himself aggressively there in a good way for

2062
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: the promotion when he talked trash at the press conference

2063
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 2: and kind of created a little bit of buzz, and

2064
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was what he wanted to do with

2065
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: Mungia get to Canelo. You have to believe that's why

2066
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Berlanga's team signed with matrim and went to his own

2067
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: chasing Canelo. Yeah, you could still do Mongia versus versus Berlanga,

2068
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: but I don't know how willing Eddie and Oscar Art

2069
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 2: actually work together if it's not something huge. And I

2070
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 2: bet you Oscar's anger is probably fueled by losing that

2071
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 2: Canelo fight and being pissed that Eddie who kind of

2072
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 2: stole him from Oscar, but not really right, the Oscar

2073
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 2: versus Canelo relationship had blown up, and either way it's

2074
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 2: like a really bad look. But I think Oscar's decision

2075
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 2: making in public statements lately seem to contradict, you know,

2076
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: like the where he should stand as a Dezonne contracted promoter.

2077
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. But if he keeps Ryan out of it,

2078
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, will they end up settling and

2079
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: Ryan can go his separate ways? I don't know, Luke,

2080
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how much Golden Boy can go down

2081
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 2: this road. But if either side decides to go down

2082
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: this road, Ryan doesn't fight, And what's fun about that? Luke?

2083
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 2: What's healthy about.

2084
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: That'd be terrible? Would be terrible, But I guess we'll see. Last,

2085
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: but not least, I wrote, the fake news problem is

2086
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 3: the one I'm sort of paying attention to. But it's

2087
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: really a little bit more than that. You guys know,

2088
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 3: I have an issue with the way it's not just MMA,

2089
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 3: it's boxing too, Like all it takes is for a

2090
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 3: powerful person in combat sports to say anything just literally

2091
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 3: just say it, and then it gets repeated as a

2092
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: headline everywhere as if it were true. Right, this is

2093
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 3: a monster problem where you're just turning into a stenographer

2094
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 3: for powerful people rather than checking them in any kind

2095
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 3: of way. But the problem goes much deeper than this.

2096
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 3: It's something BC and I've been talking about the rise

2097
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 3: of the influencer. Media is replacing journalism and it's happening

2098
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: relatively quickly. And if you're a fighter, you have a

2099
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 3: couple of choices here, right, this is on the boxing

2100
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 3: side or the MMA side. You see a little bit

2101
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: more pronounced on the MMA side, where you have two choices.

2102
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 3: One you can create your own platform. You see so

2103
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: many of them creating YouTube channels and now they're interviewing

2104
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 3: each other and now they're doing their own news breakdowns

2105
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. They actually don't rely

2106
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: on the media for this service. And of course they

2107
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 3: get to say and very carefully curate whatever information they

2108
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 3: want out of there, and they get to keep secret

2109
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 3: whatever other information they want because they're the ones controlling

2110
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 3: the shots. And by the way, that's like they're right

2111
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 3: they I mean, there's something unethical about it, but you're

2112
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 3: not getting truth. I mean, you're very, very far from it.

2113
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 3: And on the influencer side, all they want is access.

2114
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 3: They don't care at all about pushing buttons, they don't

2115
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 3: care at all about getting to the truth.

2116
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: They just want you to say, Hey, look who we

2117
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: have next to us.

2118
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,440
Speaker 3: Let's have some fun conversations, get a couple of interesting stories,

2119
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 3: and we're gonna blow this up. And so it removes

2120
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 3: utterly any need to challenge these guests, any need to

2121
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 3: challenge the narrative. Like all these shows, Dana White goes

2122
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 3: on like no one ever really challenges him. Pat mccafee

2123
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: just gives him, you know, carte blanche to say almost

2124
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 3: whatever he wants. And so, why in a world where

2125
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: fighters are doing this for each other, or influencers are

2126
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 3: doing this for fighters, what is the role of MMA media,

2127
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Speaker 3: especially when they're not actually siding with what is important

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Speaker 3: to tell in terms of the truth, just being stenographers

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Speaker 3: for the powerful. It creates a very very murky and

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01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 3: frankly troubling situation. B See, you and I have had

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01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:04,480
Speaker 3: converse about this privately, like what actually is the purpose

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01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 3: not like the role in a theorized way, but the

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Speaker 3: actual function of combat sports media these days, I don't

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Speaker 3: have a clear sense of it, because you can get

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Speaker 3: airing of press conferences, you don't need them for that. Now,

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Speaker 3: I will say, on the boxing side, the boxers don't

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Speaker 3: seem nearly as aggressive about launching their own platforms. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua does and stuff like that, but you know

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Speaker 3: your rank and file guy doesn't, whereas on the MMA

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Speaker 3: side they do. So it's not quite as pronounced on

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Speaker 3: that side. But between influencers, between the weakening side of media,

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Speaker 3: and then between sort of media tools being accessible to

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Speaker 3: fighters for them to create their own platforms. Which again

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Speaker 3: I understand that truth is not highly valued, is it.

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Speaker 3: Truth is not really all that important, is it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that was necessarily valued to begin with.

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Speaker 2: It's just that sports media held a different place even

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01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,919
Speaker 2: back when Dana and the Fertida's in the mid two thousands,

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01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,879
Speaker 2: you know, aggressively trying to get attention on their product.

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Speaker 2: The way to do that was through the media. Obviously,

2151
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: newspapers held a much different uh standing even then compared

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01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: to now. But you know, even with internet Internet sites

2153
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 2: like Dana was very aggressive making friends with guys like

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Speaker 2: Kevin Ioli and really working with them to push the

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01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 2: sport because that was probably the best way to do it,

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01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: and working with TV and all that. And now that's

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01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 2: changed because of social media, for sure. And I'm not

2158
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: here to cry, you know, oh, poor is the role

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01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 2: of sports media. But as long as sports media can

2160
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: still deliver clicks and attention and has an audience for that,

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Speaker 2: I think we're both referencing. Is that was it? Was

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01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: it an awful announcing story, Luke. Somebody had a story

2163
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: about the state of you know, media, and interesting stat

2164
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: there that the NFL currently pays one thousand different influencers

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Speaker 2: to you know, to share publicly about the NFL, which

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01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: is interesting.

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01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 3: And by the way, just the point I want to

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Speaker 3: make here is do you think any of those one

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01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 3: thousand influencers are saying anything about concussions anything like nothing?

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Speaker 1: They're not doing any of that.

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01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: But here's my point. I never felt like promoters ever

2172
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: are running after media as a way of like, you know,

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01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 2: let's stand trial and be honest. And you know, know

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01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 2: that they went after a system that they felt could

2175
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: get them attention, and they fed into that system by

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01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 2: providing access. And you know, this is just the way

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01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: it is right now that the changes in and and

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01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 2: how much people how people acquire their news and all that,

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01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 2: Like it's obviously social media change like ridiculously. I'm fine

2180
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 2: if people go through influencers or fighter themselves to get

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01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: the content they desire, But if you are also wanting

2182
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 2: coverage from these outlets, you can't be then, you know,

2183
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: if these outlets are media journalistic homes, you can't be

2184
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 2: mad at them then trying to do their job when

2185
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: just by covering you in any form they are succeeding.

2186
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: And why you reached out to them to give you

2187
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: coverage and you know, a bigger platform, but you know,

2188
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 2: you gotta I don't know. I mean, look, I wonder,

2189
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: I mean, can sports media be completely pushed out because

2190
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 2: of the combination of fake news and the I mean, eventually,

2191
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: like people are gonna you always say, people are gonna

2192
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: want the truth and they're gonna find a place where

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01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: they feel like they're getting it eventually.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, But like if John Nash wasn't empowered by

2195
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 3: Bloody Elbow who took their own editorial prioritization to do

2196
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 3: cover that kind of stuff, If they didn't do it,

2197
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 3: where would you get any of this coverage of fighter pay,

2198
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: it just wouldn't exist because none of the other NM

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01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 3: sites are going to do it, not one of them.

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01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 3: They're not going to do it. They're not going to

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Speaker 3: cover it. And so and by the way, that's not

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01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 3: a lucrative beat either. It's like that's a very you know,

2203
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 3: it's a very important thing to cover, but it doesn't

2204
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 3: pay the bills. What pays the bills says, hey, look

2205
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 3: we got in studio, we got GSP, and studio, let's

2206
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,879
Speaker 3: ask me a bunch of fucking stupid questions about UFOs

2207
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 3: and dinosaurs. And then you're on the next way and

2208
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 3: there's no other attempt to get I mean a GSP like,

2209
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 3: you know, he's squeaky clean from what we can tell,

2210
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, Like, there's nothing in

2211
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 3: the way of pressing them beyond the boundaries of their comfort.

2212
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 3: Everything is comfort zone media, the entire process about it.

2213
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 3: And like, if you can get media to replace the

2214
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 3: ones that we're asking non comfort zone stuff and covering

2215
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 3: in a non comfort zone way, to just go to

2216
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 3: the ones who don't do any of that, why the

2217
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 3: fuck would you use any of these people? Why the

2218
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 3: fuck would you care about anything they have to say.

2219
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 3: And if you're a fighter, why would you come on

2220
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 3: and get interviewed by me when you can go onto

2221
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 3: another fighters platform and they're not going to ask you

2222
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 3: any of that same shit. So, like, there's a real again,

2223
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: and this is just you can't stop the way the

2224
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 3: earth is changing. You have to kind of understand it.

2225
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm just simply saying, if you're interested in people who

2226
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 3: aren't beholden to powerful people's narratives, this is an incredibly

2227
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 3: scary time, incredibly scary time.

2228
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, that's absolutely fair. I mean, but you know,

2229
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: at the same time, we've also adjusted. I think a

2230
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: lot of us, especially people who are forward facing and

2231
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 2: have shows like this, Like, look, I came to terms

2232
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 2: a long time ago on the idea that I'm an entertainer.

2233
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 2: Now do I believe inournalism and it's important and it's

2234
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: access and it's all that. Yeah, Like, of course, of course,

2235
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: and there's times that we are journalists, but we're also

2236
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 2: critics and we're also dick joke tellers and entertainers.

2237
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 3: Luke, So, how big is the market for dick joke

2238
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 3: tellers and sometimes journalists who because like lots of fighters

2239
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 3: are better at us for things that we say and

2240
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: don't want to get interviewed with us. How lucrative is

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01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 3: what we're doing versus if we just nodded back and

2242
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 3: then gave an open platform to whoever the fuck was popular,

2243
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 3: didn't push him at all, we would get much bigger interviews.

2244
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 1: We'd get much weaker.

2245
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: If we gave milk Boy's style coverage, right or like

2246
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 2: that level of of sort of like connected to the brand. Yeah,

2247
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: we would get huge interviews in huge traffic and probably

2248
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: make a lot of money. But maybe our maybe a

2249
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 2: core of our fans would be happier because it would

2250
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 2: be all positive that fight was great. Oh my god,

2251
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 2: you know I love those us too. But yeah, I

2252
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, Luke. I'm just trying to

2253
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 2: feed my kids a right.

2254
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I mean we do, we do

2255
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: well doing.

2256
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: I just don't know about what the future is of media,

2257
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have to figure out our place in

2258
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 3: it because just the way things are going, everyone is

2259
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 3: just saying I don't give a shit about anything other

2260
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 3: than what powerful people say and present to the public.

2261
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 1: I want to provide access to that.

2262
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to get in the way of

2263
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 3: anything that they say, Like, I'm going to let powerful

2264
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 3: people present the world as they see it without any challenge.

2265
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: That's a that's frightening if you ask me.

2266
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, kill Whitey, right.

2267
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: Kill fucking Whitey.

2268
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 3: All right, b see, that's it for us on this end.

2269
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 3: Now it's time for some fan subs.

2270
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: My friend, Yeah, mornycombat at gmail dot com is your

2271
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 2: access point. Mikey Mormle's on the end of that portal,

2272
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: and you send us your artwork and other weird shit.

2273
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,759
Speaker 2: And we love it because it gives you a chance

2274
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: to be heard, to be seen. I see you people.

2275
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 2: People are weird, and I love you. It's called fansubmissions.

2276
01:42:54,720 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: You've got mail futures. Luke Sha out to our continued

2277
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: outing of female viewers in the wild that we have

2278
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 2: had of late. It's been great, right, yeah, more, I

2279
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't preread these. There we go. We'll

2280
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 2: hear from Joel here. He says, Hey, donks, my job

2281
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: involves a lot of overnight travel, which keeps me away

2282
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 2: from my life at home. The only upside is being

2283
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 2: able to watch MK in my hotel to keep me

2284
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 2: entertained while missing home. PS. Yes I did watch some

2285
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 2: aggressive BBC on BBL Action immediately after this episode. Joel

2286
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: from Atlanta, My god, did he just tell us what

2287
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: he Yeah, I guess he did. This is Joel from Atlanta,

2288
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 2: and he says in parentheses, not gross Marietta.

2289
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 3: Also, if your favorite porn and you're a straight guy

2290
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 3: starts with a description of the other actors, dix and

2291
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 3: not and not the woman's side of things, you.

2292
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 2: Know, like any flavor they want my kids, I.

2293
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Don't mind them. I don't know, I don't mind that.

2294
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 3: But it's like it's like it's just weird for a

2295
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 3: dude to be like, dude, you're not going to believe

2296
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: what I saw. You'd be like, oh, bbls or like,

2297
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: you know whatever, No, dude caught that BBC.

2298
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, I've always well, yeah, that's a good point.

2299
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: I've always thought that, you know, it must be weird

2300
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 2: for any like, you know, female for example, in a

2301
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 2: high position as an athlete or host on TV, thinking Oh,

2302
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 2: I wonder if I'm just fueling gross guys' material. But

2303
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 2: how do you feel that for this guy, Joel? We

2304
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: were the we were the appetizer. For his material. We

2305
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: were the the you know, the Spanish fly that got

2306
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 2: him to that. That's I don't want to be that

2307
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: role in his life. I don't want to be the

2308
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: the I don't want to be the the you know,

2309
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 2: the warm up band for his grossness.

2310
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 3: N Listen, I'm trying to save money for Tuki's college fun.

2311
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: I'll take what I can get.

2312
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 2: Right, all right, all right, I hope you're in somebody's material, Luke.

2313
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 2: That's what I hope at the end of the day.

2314
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 2: That's all. That's got to be a compliment to you,

2315
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: right mm hmm. Okay, let's hear from Pat. He says, Hey,

2316
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 2: Luke and BC, I submitted this right before you guys

2317
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 2: went on your vacations, and I never saw a pop up,

2318
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 2: so I'm resubmitting. I'm guessing I didn't get featured because

2319
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 2: I couldn't provide proof that I was a Jan six

2320
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 2: attendee and therefore was automatically de queued by your staff.

2321
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: Hopefully that requirement has lapsed since my first attempt. Longtime

2322
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 2: fan of the show. In spite of Brian and I

2323
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 2: really appreciate your chemistry and energy or Luke's that lack

2324
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 2: thereof and your knowledge. It's an enjoyable listen, and if

2325
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 2: I make my it makes my commute more bearable. But

2326
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to submit this tattoo. I wish I could

2327
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 2: claim credit, but it's a piece I found on Reddit

2328
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 2: a couple of year weeks ago, with the recipient's blessing.

2329
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to submit this for Luke's consideration because I

2330
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: was blown away and I wanted to hear Luke's take.

2331
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a ten out of ten. That's

2332
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 3: about as good. That's about as good as uh, I

2333
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 3: guess there's I mean, he's obviously a fake character, but

2334
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 3: I guess this would be portrait realism. That is about

2335
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 3: as good as you're going to get.

2336
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,839
Speaker 1: That is extraordinary tattooing.

2337
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 3: The shape, I mean, look at the Look at the

2338
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 3: like the middle horn, right, the middle horn between his

2339
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 3: eyes up top. Look how that CA's the shadow in

2340
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 3: front of itself from the light hitting it. I ob

2341
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 3: you have to put that in. But like the furrowed brow.

2342
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,879
Speaker 3: You can see the wrinkles on his lip. The shading

2343
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 3: is brilliant. This is about as good as tattooing gets.

2344
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: That ten out of ten.

2345
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 2: So the artist is DJ Tombay Tambe he works.

2346
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 3: This man has gross ass armpits, I will say that,

2347
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 3: and his armpit hair next to his nipple hair, which

2348
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 3: means he should be executed. But that tattoo is a

2349
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: ten out of ten.

2350
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: Back to giving the artist credit unless you want to

2351
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 2: interrupt his name again. DJ Tambay he works at Bad

2352
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: Apple Tattoo in Las Vegas and the guy who's getting

2353
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: it is rod aa eight on Reddit. Wow shout out

2354
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: to that okay, interesting tattoo, Luke, I wonder if that

2355
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 2: get helps him recreationally?

2356
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 3: Does he listen? I told you the Jedis let themselves

2357
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 3: go when I was an awesome con I was. You know,

2358
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 3: they had definitely packed on a few LB's on the quarantine.

2359
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 3: So maybe a Darth Maul tattoo will get you something.

2360
01:46:59,280 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: Who knows? I don't know.

2361
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 2: Hi. This is from Eric high Lt and the staff

2362
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 2: and BC. This is Eric from Fuquat, Thailand again and

2363
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: I want to summarize an insane weekend. Friday was dinner

2364
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 2: event with Tyson Fury. It was underwhelming, but luckily my

2365
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: buddies and I are buddies with John Nutt, the CEO

2366
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: of Full Metal Dojo which puts on Fight Circus, and

2367
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: we got chatting and he told us we needed to

2368
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 2: go to Fight Circus seven the next day. I asked

2369
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 2: if we could do mushrooms at the event without skipping

2370
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 2: a beat. John asked macro or micro. I said we'd

2371
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 2: find out. So, Bud, what are we reading here? So

2372
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 2: my buddy and I walked into Fight Circus as they're

2373
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: announcing that Fury would be arriving. Then I noticed all

2374
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 2: the midgets and clowns who are part of the show,

2375
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 2: not just part of my imagination. I stopped giggling enough

2376
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: to see a shirtless Bob Sap just hanging out in

2377
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 2: the corner of a very loosely guarded VIP section. Side note,

2378
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 2: Sap wore nothing but basketball shorts and a smile. Eventually,

2379
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 2: the fight started during the one foot in a tire

2380
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 2: boxing match. Yes, exactly what it sounds like. I looked

2381
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:07,560
Speaker 2: behind me and it was Sharraputin Mago Medoff standing over me.

2382
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 2: In the most broken English. He told me he thinks

2383
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 2: his first UFC fight will be October. How's that for

2384
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 2: a scoop? Boys roughly as Jim Beam and SODA's would

2385
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 2: six of them later, I walked in on Bob Sack

2386
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 2: taking a leak in the unisex toilet and I was in.

2387
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh fuck, I'm sorry, Bob, and he

2388
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 2: just left and said, ain't no thing, my man, I'm

2389
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 2: almost done. Then I walked out of the toilet and

2390
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 2: there's Bob doing an interview with a Okay, where are we?

2391
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: Where are we going with this? With somebody from Thailand? Luke,

2392
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 2: I've included a pick. If you don't believe me, we might.

2393
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:42,600
Speaker 3: You know what, It's amazing when you can do just

2394
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 3: eating chicken and broccoli, you know.

2395
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2396
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 3: Uh?

2397
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 2: Then Ben Tyson, Fury, Big John Fury and their squad arrived,

2398
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 2: and to his credit, Tyson was all smiles. He was

2399
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,679
Speaker 2: super friendly to everyone, and he seemed to generally enjoy himself.

2400
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 2: Because it was nuts birthday, Tyson sang him a song.

2401
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 2: And at one point, I'm trying to process the sight

2402
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 2: of Bob Sap a clown, some midgets in John nutt

2403
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 2: All dancing in the ring to Fury's cover of American Pie. Again,

2404
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 2: I have picks to prove it. Look, is this is

2405
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: this the script to uh? Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

2406
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: What's happening right now.

2407
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, although I will say Bob Sap looks

2408
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 3: like the drug. Whatever drugs he's taken, they are great.

2409
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 2: Okay. So Eric closes with saying, so yeah, just an

2410
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 2: average regional MMA event with Bob Sap, Tyson Fury, magamet Off,

2411
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 2: a few lady boys clowns, and a bunch of midgets

2412
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: and one mk Donk tanking it all in. Uh, keep

2413
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 2: up the good work and ps, please rip me a

2414
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 2: new one for those stupid faces I'm making in every pick.

2415
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: I was a bit too far in both events. I

2416
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 2: think he means he was talking to aliens. Look during

2417
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 2: that during the filming of those Yes, yes, here's Mike.

2418
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for the content, guys, thought it a bit ironic

2419
01:49:54,120 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: the strong opinion lt has on Zusk Zuck versus Elon. Yeah,

2420
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 2: this is his thumbnail all the best. Oh okay, Well,

2421
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 2: sorry guy, sorry guy, that we teed up your fan

2422
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 2: sub and Mikey's computer just crashed. So Luke, let's wrap

2423
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,440
Speaker 2: up the show. All right, we'll finish.

2424
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 3: All right, Well, this has just came to it absolutely

2425
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 3: catastrophic end.

2426
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll finish these fan subs on Friday's episode. But Luke,

2427
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 2: even though it went a lot longer than you hoped.

2428
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 2: I really think we produced, you know, lemonade out of

2429
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: some gross ass lemons today.

2430
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. We did. We had a bunch of

2431
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 3: fan subs. Oh, he says, he's back. We might be

2432
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 3: able to get back.

2433
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 2: I really hope you.

2434
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: Can, because this is just what the fuck is going

2435
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 3: on here?

2436
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 2: Talk just killed? Oh no, all right, we had a

2437
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 2: technical let me look at it. We to be fair,

2438
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: we it's not like we have technical difficulties all the time.

2439
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm and it becomes like the reputation of our show

2440
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 2: in our existence on this planet. Right.

2441
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 3: I don't know who to complain to to fix this

2442
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 3: problem because we have only complained about this eight billion

2443
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 3: times and yet here we are, so I don't know.

2444
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say.

2445
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, thank you for partnering with me through this show, Luke,

2446
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 4: I think we delivered.

2447
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 2: Okay, the plane landed, now you know, the tires were.

2448
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 3: Ball landed, just kind of fell out people, But it

2449
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 3: was a better way to put it.

2450
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, the plane landed like Leonard Skynyrd's did, right, Luke,

2451
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: Just to be fair, it was a it was a

2452
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 2: very historic moment in rock history. All right, I would.

2453
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 3: Say that we'll show the rest of these fans subs

2454
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 3: on Friday, but I guess there's no guarantee that'll happen either,

2455
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 3: so I don't know them we'll ever show these to you,

2456
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe maybe maybe it'll be like, uh, you know,

2457
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 3: the world's greatest mystery, What did have happened with the

2458
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 3: rest of those fans? Up?

2459
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, he said, See, this is this is why

2460
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: my wife always tells me don't text important details to

2461
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 2: her because she'll read my tone wrong. But you can

2462
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 2: read the word wrong. Is he's saying he's close or

2463
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 2: he's saying close.

2464
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 3: Because he's saying he's saying close, hesn't closed that ship? Okay,

2465
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 3: all right, now.

2466
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 2: It's back, it's working now, all right, all right, all

2467
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 2: right off and then turn it on again.

2468
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 3: Mikey, come on, you got a blow on the cartridge? Yeah?

2469
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, oh boy, this is definitely a a fever dream.

2470
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 3: Right, that is.

2471
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: Bizarre. What was the other one you just showed though?

2472
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 2: That was the last one from the guy at Fouquet

2473
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 2: And now we have po cat. Oh, now we have

2474
01:52:53,840 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 2: to show Mike's elon versus Zuck thing. Yeah, so I'm

2475
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 2: gonna be honest. I had a lot of people DM

2476
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 2: me wanting me to out you and do a big

2477
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: debate saying how hypocritical of Luke to sell his own

2478
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 2: video on his own channel with the same thing he's

2479
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: deriding everybody for wanting.

2480
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm not wanting the fight.

2481
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 3: I'm using that as a way to explain to people

2482
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 3: that we should not be putting any further interest in it.

2483
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: But it is a little hypocritical for sure.

2484
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would make fun of you if

2485
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: I didn't have an onlyscam dot com channel of my pipes,

2486
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,839
Speaker 2: you know. But I love it. I get to connect

2487
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 2: with our people. I actually really enjoy it.

2488
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean I have to use whatever fishing rod I

2489
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 3: can to lure people in. But once you get there,

2490
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give you a different message.

2491
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, use stronger cologne, Luke, You'll have more friends.

2492
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Let's go over it. A no name has a photo for.

2493
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: Us reminder record of UC fighters over thirty five.

2494
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish i'd know who submitted this. Some guy.

2495
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just too good.

2496
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 1: It's just too good.

2497
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 3: It's just you got to.

2498
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 2: Find out who did that? Who O DM me that

2499
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 2: that is a brilliant fan submission. Blowing up your head

2500
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: to Luke, that's just all boy.

2501
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 3: Throw it up one more time, Mike, if you can.

2502
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry because I know by the way it kind

2503
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,759
Speaker 3: of looked a little bit. It looks like Laura Cenko

2504
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 3: looks like.

2505
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was, Is it not?

2506
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fucking no. I don't think it does. I

2507
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 3: don't think of Flora Cenko. But that is fucking hilarious.

2508
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:24,759
Speaker 3: That's a great shot.

2509
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 2: It's really good, amazing. All right, let's hear from David Appleton.

2510
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 2: He says BC recently suggested I needed a redemption story

2511
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 2: after being so lecherous in London, so I wondered what

2512
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 2: I could do to get back in the King of

2513
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 2: Connecticut's favor. I came up with the idea of saving

2514
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 2: a poor neglected dog. Let me introduce you to Nalla,

2515
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 2: who was used for breeding in a kennel for eight

2516
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 2: years before I gave her a real home. The poor

2517
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 2: mutt has never been in a house and can't walk

2518
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 2: up or downstairs, as you'll see in the video. Incredibly,

2519
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 2: they called her Lola at the kennel like Luke sorely

2520
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: missed canon companion. My kids want to to change her name.

2521
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 2: I briefly entertained the idea of naming her Lolita, but

2522
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: thought better of it. So here is coach Nala joining

2523
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 2: forces with former student Menon to make a man of me.

2524
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: Alan w.

2525
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 3: Kay every day.

2526
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't have.

2527
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 3: It just wouldn't be It wouldn't be a fans of

2528
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 3: if one of our viewers wasn't doing blackface.

2529
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, where what has you more concerned?

2530
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: The outright blackface from Happy There? The fact that he

2531
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: has his students on camera helping him with these bits.

2532
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, hey, Appy, put put the put the

2533
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 3: camera on me for just the second?

2534
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: Hair ready?

2535
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 3: Appy?

2536
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Please stop mowing your yard with scissors?

2537
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 3: Please?

2538
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh dude, him wearing the underwear over the front of

2539
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 2: it is just brilliant. I mean, this guy is this

2540
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: guy is great.

2541
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 3: Also, what the fuck was he doing with the upright

2542
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 3: rose sitting? You ever seen that he was doing this?

2543
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, he was getting getting ripped from Manal.

2544
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: It's interesting he picked a rough week to push this

2545
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: content out, with the Jared Fogeldoc grossing everyone out and

2546
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, putting us on alert that there's people like

2547
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: Appy on the earth, but he's my favorite of those people.

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Speaker 3: Luke.

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01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: I have to say he is doing a very good

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01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: thing with the dog.

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 3: I was very very I agree.

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01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 2: I agree. Shout out to Nala Oh. He closes by saying, Hey,

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01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: Alan W and average Joe Art, I see you coming on,

2554
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 2: but I'm going to go out swinging ps. Luke often

2555
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 2: complains about long fan subs, but rather than be a

2556
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 2: bitch about it, you know who you are, I have

2557
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 2: decided to keep all my efforts down to less than

2558
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: a minute. That's what I say to all the girls.

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01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's got a gift. Luke, you just

2560
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta, you know, you gotta deal with that.

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01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: One's pretty good. That was actually really good. The blackface

2562
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 3: thing I could have done without. But you know, what

2563
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 3: are you gonna do?

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01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Alan W. Luke. He's been

2565
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: on a run of sorts lately. He says. Last week's

2566
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Elon Musk versus Mark Zuckerberg Grant was absolutely insufferable. Here

2567
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: is a depiction of the conversation if I took place

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01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 2: in person at the Bombshe alter, ps. These are CEOs

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01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: of trillion dollar companies that are beholding to the respective

2570
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 2: board of directors and shareholders, and mma fight is so

2571
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 2: asinine in such a waste of time that they absolutely

2572
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 2: run the risk and devaluing their companies and their positions

2573
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 2: as CEOs. How would you not question their judgment and

2574
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 2: leadership competency if they actually fought. Remember PayPal fired Musk

2575
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: as CEO and I Still Love You BC, which is

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01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Alan referencing. I think the Risen problem we had, Luke.

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01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 3: The big The big thing here that's great is that

2578
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 3: the computer in the bottom right hand corner is playing Solitaire.

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01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that's great. Now can you read that, Luke? I

2580
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 2: lost that ability to read it?

2581
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 3: It's literally what.

2582
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: We were saying.

2583
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 3: It's actually, uh, it's actually what we were saying. At

2584
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 3: least the top part is. I don't know about the

2585
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 3: bottom part, but the top part is actual quotes that

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01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: we said on the show.

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01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it's me dressed up there like a CEO saying

2588
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 2: I like it extra sloppy. Elon versus marks a chance

2589
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 2: of happening, and it would do stupid night. Luke comes back,

2590
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here with all that. Dude,

2591
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 2: It's two guys using dickheads like us for extramediate. Yeah,

2592
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 2: it's basically the same debate. Okay, thank you, well done, Allen.

2593
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 3: We don't have time to show average Joe art, Mikey

2594
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 3: is saying, I guess we don't.

2595
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 2: Mikey could be underwater.

2596
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 3: At this point, Luke, Yeah, it's possible. It's possible, all right,

2597
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 3: I guess we could show average Joe art stuff on Friday.

2598
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 2: No, Mikey says he has not received anything from all He.

2599
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 3: Didn't gainything from Joe. Okay, all right, very good, then

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 3: I withdraw the criticism. Good sir, Just all right? Is

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01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 3: that it for us?

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01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm not here any longer. That's it, all.

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01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 3: Right, Thanks to everyone who watched. We'll be back on Friday.

2604
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 3: We will do a full UFC preview to get you

2605
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 3: ready for that, and uh, we'll have some stuff for

2606
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 3: you on Monday for the July fourth weekend, so don't

2607
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 3: and by the way, pregame preview on Sunday, pre game

2608
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 3: preview on Sunday, so don't forget about that, all right.

2609
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 3: Showtime dot Com is the label that pays Showtime dot

2610
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Speaker 3: Com three Today free trophy like you can keep it

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Speaker 3: if now you can bounce. Then there is Morningcombat dot

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02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 3: store and then Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Follow

2613
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 3: us on all the socials.

2614
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: Yes, do you see anything else?

2615
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm forgetting I don't know.

2616
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, we got other shows this week. We could

2617
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 2: just talk about it then, right.

2618
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 3: Well, this show is just ending on the worst none ever.

2619
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 2: Let's have a cold one on me, Luke. Yeah, there

2620
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 2: it is all right.

2621
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 3: All right, Ryan Campbell, I'm look Thomas. Thank you guys

2622
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 3: so much for watching. We appreciate it. Back on Friday

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02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 3: thanks to Mickey Morms on the Ones and twos helping

2624
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 3: us out and uh yeah, that is it. We'll talk

2625
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:41,160
Speaker 3: to you guys on Friday, and until then, all of

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Speaker 3: your gains be loyal