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Speaker 3: Welcome to Jenkus and Jones on the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: In his Thursday, March seventh, we are very excited for

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Speaker 3: our Love is Blind finale recap episode as always James

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Speaker 3: and Jones, hosted by Love is Blind fanatic Dragonfly Jones

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Speaker 3: aka Tyler. Hey, everybody have a good was Dethroe Jenkins

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Speaker 3: A K John was Aunt Bubbas i've GUARDI b aka Mike.

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Speaker 4: Mother fucking my mother, mother fucking Mike here to discussion?

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Speaker 2: Is Love Bloe fucking Mike A special episode?

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Speaker 3: And Jackson couldn't be with us today because he said

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Speaker 3: he he looks down on reality television. You know, he

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Speaker 3: on the pod today.

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Speaker 1: He's so good for it. James twice, James Joyce, Guy,

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Speaker 3: Fitzgerald having he only reads the American Modernists.

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Speaker 4: You know, he said, calling back when it's time for

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Speaker 4: Ulysses talk.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Josh for producing today. Josh, thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 1: For a producing We appreciate.

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Speaker 3: You all right, let's jump into it. Should we go

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Speaker 3: in the order of the show?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think we should.

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Speaker 3: Well, we opened up with the resolution of the cliffhanger

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Speaker 3: between Jimmy and Chelsea. Ooh, Tyler, was this the moment

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Speaker 3: we needed of seeing Chelsea seeing the come up and delivered?

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Speaker 3: Did the chickens come home to roost? It was?

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a hell of a cliffhanger, right, because you know,

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Speaker 2: we saw the sparks that were kind of there between

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Speaker 2: you know, they left on the cliffhanger where Jimmy asked her,

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Speaker 2: are you still ready to take this leap? And it

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Speaker 2: looked like she was kind of contemplating, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Which was just.

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Speaker 4: A wild way to get up to that point.

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Speaker 2: Like, for one, they had a fucking date at an

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Speaker 2: amusement park bro at Caroin's right, which is which is

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Speaker 2: like North Carolina State amusement park, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: like their version of six Flags, you know, to give

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Speaker 4: So they had a fucking incredible date there.

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Speaker 2: Looked like y'all are on roller coasters, eating cotton candy

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Speaker 2: It was just a wild way to go about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the producers coordinated that. I don't

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel, you know, like she got what she

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it's like there's asshole stuff where you're

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Speaker 1: I think he approached it in the same way he

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Speaker 2: Listen, I think I think I think people's dislike of

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Speaker 2: It's no way around it, bro, you know, to take

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Speaker 4: Park date, like what what says? What says more?

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Speaker 2: I love you, I want to view with you forever

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Speaker 4: Is buying us a little bit here on how much

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Speaker 1: I don't but also the she I think the ride

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Speaker 3: You see what Jackson's missing. We we we got the

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Speaker 3: pathetic fallacy, we got symbolism, we got all kinds of

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Speaker 3: And that's not just relationships. That's me with a freelancer.

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Speaker 3: It was stressing you are the deadline, stressing you out

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Speaker 2: And also his reasoning, Bro, he was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's like, yeah, you're you're just looking for an out

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Speaker 4: You know, they're moving past it, but he couldn't let

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Speaker 2: Fuck bro, Bro, I gonna lie now I'm gonna sound

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Speaker 2: I was like, you are you are breaking down crying

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure thinks it's an asshole breaking up with

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Speaker 1: You know Guilletine, Nigga, Dath Kennalty, you feel me, But no, Bro,

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Speaker 1: like this one. She was particularly manipulative. You feel me,

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Speaker 1: I punched this motherfucker, or like am my trip? But

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Speaker 1: And you feel me exactly exactly like it. You cannot

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Speaker 2: And and I'm gonna say this, Chelsea met her match

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, tall.

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Speaker 1: I was like, stop to fight like that motherfucker. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That nice? He need the audition for the bear

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Speaker 2: But I mean, look, I mean, I mean she she

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Speaker 1: Like, my emotions, come on, bro, and emotions should be validated,

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like yostand people, but you can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It hadn't even.

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Speaker 3: Occurred to her when he said I was upset not

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Speaker 3: And I want to be clear because John said it

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not pro zimmy. I don't think he was responding.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He was better than I

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Speaker 3: Saying, And he would you too, for sure, out of

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Speaker 1: That I don't think I would have been Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She got exactly what she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, yes, Like like I said, these are the

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Speaker 2: train wrecks that I like to see two people who

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Speaker 1: That was great, That was great. That was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we go to Clay and a D

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Speaker 2: and that ship. Whoo, that was That's not what I

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Speaker 3: I was not having fun, Tyler. I was not having

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Speaker 3: Like ahead, it felt like the Red Wedding or something

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Speaker 1: That was the doors closing in the chambers in the

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Speaker 1: Red Wedding. You know what I'm saying. When the doors

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Speaker 4: I want to discuss like like the building before we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure where you know eighties there

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Speaker 2: with with her family, with her homegirls and eighty has

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Speaker 4: They're like and it was rhyme too.

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Speaker 1: She hit with the signal and they was ready to

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Speaker 2: And and her little niece is just adorable. I remember

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Speaker 4: And then we meet Clay's dad.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, right, Clay Cycle, yeah, Cycle for what Clayton did?

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Speaker 2: This man no favors by telling us exactly who he was,

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Speaker 2: by telling us, you know how he was a you know,

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Speaker 2: serial cheater for fucking twenty years basically, And boy, this

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Speaker 4: Just a dickhead, Like you know, he.

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Speaker 3: Comes bars on the floor and he still got under it, bro.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, he went to hal with it. You

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Speaker 2: Hey, the conversation he had with Clay a father dad

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Speaker 4: It's is supposed to be like a beautiful moment.

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Speaker 2: That moment made me feel sad a bit because you

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Speaker 4: Right, you can tell that Clay ad Myerson. But they're they're, they're.

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Speaker 2: There's just not a really really deep bond there, right,

437
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 2: Like he looked a bit surprised for one that his

438
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 2: dad was there, and then his dad you know, gives

439
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 2: them you know, just a cliche ass speech. Sounded like

440
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 2: he was prepping him for like a track run.

441
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: Cracked me, run a four hundred and like you know

442
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the semi finals or some ship.

443
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah somebody, Yeah, you know, I ran track in high school,

444
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: all American high school, American college and try off for

445
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 2: the Olympics.

446
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 4: Who gives a fuck.

447
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 1: Nigga? Yes, yeah, self absorbed.

448
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 3: Well, the other thing was because Sharp pointed this out,

449
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 3: she and I both felt the same thing. It felt

450
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: like when he told the story about Clay beating him

451
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 3: in a race, it felt like he was about to

452
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 3: have that real conversation with him about like you've always

453
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 3: been better than me, You're always gonna be able to

454
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 3: go further than me.

455
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 1: It felt like he was setting that.

456
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 3: Clay's been going through and then instead he was like, so,

457
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 3: let's talk some more about me. Bro.

458
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: It was so but like, to me, Clay's dad is

459
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: a type of person that only a parent or a

460
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 1: child could love. You know what I'm saying. He is

461
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 1: a psycho. And it also made me understand Clay so

462
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: much more. Saying his dad he did a number on

463
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Clay bro and Clay is fighting that ship, but he

464
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: did so. I mean, dude, that that we said, that

465
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: was the deepest conversation they had. That he said he's

466
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 1: that being like they don't that was the deepest. That

467
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: was so shallow and so self like. That was not

468
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: about Clay, was about him, and he's like to know

469
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: that's your dad and to love your dad and to

470
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: know your dad isn't ship, but also know you have

471
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: a lot in them. He asked Clay about his wife

472
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: at all Bro, at all Bro and the relationship he

473
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: was it wasn't about the relationship, wasn't about his struggles,

474
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like the mom was the

475
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: one that really pointed out, like, Yo, you need to

476
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: have a fucking real conversation with him and you need

477
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: to apologize. That is the beginning of him healing until

478
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: you do that. You are the reason he feels this way.

479
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: My nigga, you feel me. You are taking to be

480
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: taken to love. We know how much you love mom.

481
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: We love our moms, right, dude, like nigga, nigga, you

482
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: feel me. I don't give a fuck just you know anyway,

483
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: And for you to be taken on a mission with

484
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: your dad to dog out your mom and have to

485
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: carry that, of course you fucked up. And now we

486
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: were in this crazy situation where he's found a girl

487
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: that he really fucks with and he can't give her

488
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: what he wants to give her because he doesn't have

489
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: it in them because his dad took that shit. You

490
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: feel me. His dad took that shit and has never

491
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: reconciled what he did to his child. And in the

492
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: conversation at the end when he talked about therapy, babe,

493
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get therapy. You feel me, like nigga.

494
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: That's beautiful and all that. You know what I mean.

495
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: But this is probably a situation that he has to

496
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: do alone. He shouldn't even do this in a relationship,

497
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: let alone in a marriage. You feel me, So I

498
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: understand the decision, and I think he probably made the

499
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: best decisions for both of them. I fucking hated it, though,

500
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: and it was heartbreaking because I knew she loved the

501
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: fuck out of him and she wanted him, and she

502
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: deserves better than what the fuck he was going to

503
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: give her, and he knew that, and he didn't want

504
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: to leave. When he left, you saw it in his eyes.

505
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave, but he had to because

506
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: she's like, yo, I can't do this shit. She's done

507
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: everything she could. He gave everything he could and it

508
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. That's how it felt to me, Gee, I

509
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: felt bad for him and her. That shit broke my

510
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: mother fucking heart.

511
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: Dog.

512
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: I hated it because it was they both were in

513
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: between a rock and a hard place. There was seeing

514
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: the dad showed me that there was no way that

515
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: this was going to turn out the way they both

516
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: deserved to turn out, because Clay couldn't give with her

517
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: what she deserved and his dad fucked him up as

518
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: a young and he has a lot of work to

519
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: do before he can get to a point where he

520
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: can fucking be in a marriage and do what it

521
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: needs to have a successful marriage to be a solid partner.

522
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said in that little conversation, I feel

523
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: like you learned so much about you know, his childhood

524
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: and his upbring with his dad. Like there was almost

525
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: a childlike fishing up affirmation that Clay was thrown out

526
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: there that was just not being received by his dad. Yeah,

527
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: right right, he's he was just not an emotionally intelligent

528
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: person enough to affirm him. And if you're not emotionally

529
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: intelligent enough to affirm your child in a big moment

530
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: like before his wedding date, I can imagine how it

531
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: is on the day to day childhood, you know, rearing,

532
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: you know, motions that they went through. So yeah, it

533
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: was just like like, you know, seeing his dad just

534
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: like you said, just gave so much insight into you know,

535
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: the person that Clay was, because you know he and

536
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: he's you know, we clown him for mentioning that mentioning

537
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: that shit thirty fucking times all season, but you know, yeah, yeah,

538
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: we get it out. It's it's some ship that he's

539
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: that he at least he's been honest about. It's some

540
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: shit that he has to work through because it for

541
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: sure damaged his perception of how, you know, how a

542
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: healthy relationship should be how a man should love his

543
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: woman by by seeing how his dad did his.

544
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: Mom twenty five years to five years, twenty four years

545
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: he watched that shit.

546
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a couple additional thoughts and I want

547
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: to give a little bit of context, which is my

548
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: dad cheated on my mom and it's you know we

549
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: talked about in the pop before. I know, we have

550
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people who listen to these who don't

551
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: listen to normal pod My dad came out when I

552
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: was twelve and revealed, you know, it was revealed in

553
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: the same conversation he'd been cheating on my mom with

554
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: quite a few men, including one of my friend's dads.

555
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: I come from a very fucked up father and my

556
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: life philosophy, and I talked to a lot of my

557
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: friends because we all have Everyone in our generation has

558
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: at least one fucked.

559
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Up parent dad.

560
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, the most important thing I ever did in

561
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: my life was deciding, at twelve thirteen years old, fuck

562
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: that mother fucker. Give a fuck if I got the

563
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: same last name as him, I don't give a fuck.

564
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: If he was a great dad for much of the

565
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: first part of my life, he did this ship to

566
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: my mom. Fuck him you know what I mean. And

567
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: I see so many people who are going through shit

568
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: that their parents were going through because they could not

569
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: cut that line and say I might have respect and appreciation.

570
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: I have a lot more appreciation as an older man

571
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: for what my dad did as a father. But you

572
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: have got to be able to go that dude's alcoholic,

573
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: not me, That dude cheated on my mom, not me, right, Like,

574
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: you have to be able to do that first before

575
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: you can do anything else. I have so many friends

576
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: their dad's alcoholic, They struggle with drinking like whatever it is.

577
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: And it's like this person has nothing to do with you.

578
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: You're that choose that you're the anomaly in that situation.

579
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: But I don't.

580
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 4: I mean, but you don't have to be but right,

581
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: you know.

582
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: And and that's the thing, you like, you owe it

583
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: to your And I'm not saying this about me or

584
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: because I think I'm a great person, whoever, whoever's listening

585
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: is you owe it to yourself to deal with your

586
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: own shit, not your dad's shit. Heal your own shit,

587
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: not your mom shit. Shar's parents also had a very different,

588
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: very unhealthy relationship, and the two of us we got

589
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: together when we're eighteen. One of the things we bonded

590
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: over before we were even interested in each other was

591
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: our parents, was the backgrounds that we were coming out of,

592
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: and without knowing we were gonna be married or have

593
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: kids together, we were talking about, I'm gonna have to

594
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: do this, I'm gonna have to be so different. I'm

595
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: gonna have to do this work to make sure I'm different, right,

596
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: And we were like understanding that as a project of

597
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: our life, separate from like you said with Clay, separate

598
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: from the process of getting married. That's just becoming a person.

599
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: That's just becoming who you are as a person, separate

600
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: from your parents. And so, you know, we talked about

601
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: this as parents, you know John where it's like I

602
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: have these moments where Vinnie's pushing away from me. He's like, Ah,

603
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: you don't need to walk me in. I'm gonna go

604
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: be with my friends. I love those moments because he

605
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: needs to get rid of me at some point in

606
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: his life emotionally, even if we still hopefully have a

607
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: great relationship, he needs to separate and be able to

608
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: be his own person. And I agree exactly with what

609
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: Tyler was saying. Clay was asking his dad.

610
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: His Dad's earned.

611
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: Nothing to be in that monkey. He's done nothing to

612
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: earn being in that moment. And Clay was still asking him,

613
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: right now, give me permission to do that, and his

614
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: dad wouldn't give it to him, bro, Like you know

615
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: what I mean. And he was still so dependent on

616
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: his dad that he just could not break away from

617
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: him in that moment.

618
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: There's a level of admiration he has for his dad

619
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: because his dad has done really great things, you know

620
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he followed his footsteps and ran track,

621
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There's a level of admiration. Now.

622
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: I think it's prevented him from like being able to

623
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: separate himself from his dad like that. You see, he

624
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: loves his dad so much, but he's not going to

625
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: get what he wants. And if somebody like this mom

626
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: was exactly right as somebody like my stepdad. When I

627
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: first came here, he told me I was like thirty five, Bro,

628
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: he's we're talking about conversation. And I joked about some

629
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: shit that happened between us when we got to scrap

630
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: and the ship, right, and he stopped the conversations that

631
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: I apologize. I broke fucking down. I didn't know I

632
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: needed that ship. You know what I'm saying. I've had

633
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: conversation with my mom about shit, like you know what

634
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean. Like my mom is a great fucking mom,

635
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

636
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: But we're all You know, my mom was apologizing to

637
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: me for shit too, and I, bro, I have the

638
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: same reaction.

639
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm gonna have chest as hard as I tried.

640
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: There are conversations gonna have to have with some me

641
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: when I get older, you know what I mean. And

642
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to apologize because I am human. My

643
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: mom did the best she fucking could and she and

644
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: she I've had great conversation with her where she let

645
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: me speak my mind and the way I needed to,

646
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: you feel me for us because she loved me in

647
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: that way. My stepdad, as crazy as he was when

648
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I was you know what I'm saying, when I was young,

649
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: as an adult, I kind of get the struggle and

650
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: why he went through that because of what he went through,

651
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But he still gave me

652
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: that fucking apology to let me fucking lose. And I

653
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: think I think Clay needs that ship. You know what

654
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't got it yet, and so like

655
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: for me as a I know, I'm blessed. I've talked

656
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: to a bunch of people that have similar issues because

657
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, our generations all similar, you know what I'm saying,

658
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: We had we all went through the similar things because

659
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: they were raising kids where they thought they were suppos

660
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: to raise kids at the time. We have different information,

661
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: we do differently, and they want to apologizes. It never

662
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: got that shit. So I'm blessed in that. And I

663
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: see how healing it can be and how important it is,

664
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When I had to conversation

665
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: with mom my, mom said it was a year and

666
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: a half into me getting therapy, and I told and

667
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: we I've been kind of quiet for a little bit,

668
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so she she she

669
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: asked Joy, like joy, what she was, like, Joy, what's

670
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: going on with john as Joy?

671
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 5: You know?

672
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: She she was like she was supposed to say nothing,

673
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: but she was like Johnny's that conversation. Wouldn't be scared

674
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: to have a conversation because he doesn't want to hurt you,

675
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you know he really

676
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: loves you, and I think she said, the perfect fucking

677
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: mom for me, actually perfect, you know what I'm saying,

678
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't change a fucking thing about it. All the things

679
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: that were in the past, wouldn't change nothing, you know

680
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so she she called me, she

681
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: texted me, said, if you haven't need to have a

682
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: conversation about anything, let me know. You know what I'm saying.

683
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: And I could hear my mom on the other end

684
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: when I was talking to her fighting her tears for me, dude, right,

685
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like that shit, And

686
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn gee, like I'm super blessing that I

687
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: know how healing that and how is important that shit

688
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: could be. And so even though they had their troubles

689
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes it bled into other shit, you feel me,

690
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: they were still good people. Not think Clay's dad is

691
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: not a good person, and that's a horrible situation to

692
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: be in when you have a trash ash dad. It

693
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: also was a trash human. And I don't think our

694
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: parents were bad. I mean, well, you know, we could

695
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: decide that. I don't think my parents were bad people.

696
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I think, you know what I'm saying. My mom was great,

697
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: My stepdad wasn't the best father, you know what I'm saying,

698
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: But he was a good person and he gave me

699
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: that apology my dad, you know whatever. You know what

700
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like, dog, I just feel like we

701
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: need that type of shit and it's important and Clay truly, truly,

702
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: truly needs it. And we see that shit. We see

703
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: him fighting. Bro, He's trying to be something that he

704
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: just can't be in the time, and he's doing that

705
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: in the crazy, crazy, some circumstances.

706
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like not to go,

707
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: not to go Clay's dad here and use a cliche,

708
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: but you know, it's been said that your scars might

709
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: not be your fault, but your healing is your responsibility, right,

710
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: And and you know, we saw we've seen how Clay

711
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: has addressed how scarred he is. He's addressed how he

712
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: wants to take steps to better himself, how he wants

713
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: to get in therapy and all that, and how he

714
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: wants to do the work to better himself. And then

715
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: we had that moment after the wedding where Clay's mom

716
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: and Clay's dad had a conversation and Clay's mom was like,

717
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: you know, it starts with accountability. You need to apologize

718
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: to that young man and then work from there and

719
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Clays that just goes well.

720
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: You know.

721
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: I came from a broke home too, and I was like, Bro,

722
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: there's no saving this fuck.

723
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: That got to do with What the fuck does this

724
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: and your son have to do with that? Who gives

725
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: a fuck about that?

726
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: Bro?

727
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: And I said, own child, it's so sick. Bro, it's

728
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: so sick. I nigga. I want to put some hands

729
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: on them.

730
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: I do not like that. Man.

731
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: We got beat nigga, you feel me? It's crazy. What's

732
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: that ole nigga? Ball head ass nigga? Nigga seeing on

733
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: that woman and you out here looking like a motherfucking tortoise.

734
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: Goofy ass, nigga. That's the track nigga, not knowing what

735
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: they got. You feel what I'm saying. Think you the

736
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: senator God's gift? Damn fuck that nigga.

737
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: Man, I hate it, bro, wife, it was like Clat's handsome.

738
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: I expected to hurt his dad to be a little

739
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: bit better looking at this.

740
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I was a way for him to sink his neckd

741
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: to his shoulders, to hide from the fucking situation. You know,

742
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, goofy ass nigga. Yeah, man, like yeah,

743
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: but it's just that amount of admiration he has for

744
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: his It's so fucked up when the amount of admiration

745
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: he has for his dad is problematic. It should not

746
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: be that way. We're admiring your popping the way he

747
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: admires his pop is getting in the way of his healing. Like,

748
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: that's how trash his fucking pop says.

749
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the one thing you said that I

750
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: disagree with, and I want to talk about this. Obviously,

751
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: all this we gave all, that's all the backstory of it.

752
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: This leads up to a moment where a d walks up.

753
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: He's doing.

754
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: This other stuff.

755
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: She says, I do, and then he says delivers a

756
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: speech to her that he should have given her a

757
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: week ago. Right, And so where I'm going to disagree

758
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: with what John said on he did. What was best

759
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: for both of them was it did not need to

760
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: be the way that it was. He did not need

761
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: to be in front of you, didn't need to be

762
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: in front of all her people. It was clear from

763
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: the interview at the end of the show he had

764
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: no idea what he did he really thought it was like, hey,

765
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: and then I'm going to get better and we can

766
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: keep healing. It's like, no, you just humiliated this woman

767
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: in front of her family, bro, Like, like her family

768
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: is never gonna her mom walked in like Vito Corleone

769
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: when she arrived at the wedding, bro Like, her mom

770
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: is not going to be Like, well, he got some

771
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: therapy and so now I can forgive him for doing

772
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: this ship to my daughter in front of that like Tyler,

773
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: you said in front of that sweet baby girl. Bro,

774
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: that's the lessie you taught that baby girl today. Bro Like,

775
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: as a man, as a thirty year old man, I

776
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: keep thinking of him as twenty two, because that's he

777
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: reminds me of myself, and I'm twenty two.

778
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the exact moment I knew he

779
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: was gonna say no, when a d walks up looking

780
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: stunning in her wedding dress, looking.

781
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Looking case scenario that show right right right, and this

782
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: is a date to him on a date.

783
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: Listen, this is the woman who you are madly in

784
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: love with, the one to spend forever tour and what

785
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: comes out your mouth is, oh, you got that ship on.

786
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, that's what you say when your girl's

787
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: wearing a fresh pair of air Maxes, not when this

788
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: is the love of your life on your wedding day

789
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: in her wedding dress.

790
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Body, okay, Body, Oh you

791
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: got nigga?

792
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: No no, no.

793
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with that. The delivery was fucked up.

794
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. We agree on that, you

795
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think the decision was the

796
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: right decision, but delivery and the was fucked up. And

797
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: for sure he should have did dude had a conversation

798
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: like Jeremy uh, goofy ass Doug Funny, Jimmy, Yeah, Doug Funny.

799
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: He at least had the decency to have it, you know.

800
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about his asshole. But it wasn't

801
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: in front of the family and friends. It wasn't in

802
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: front of all of America, God and everything.

803
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: That she loves.

804
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

805
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: She he had her as a woman who really seems

806
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: like a good woman, questioning whether she's like enough as

807
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: a person.

808
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Bro. He brought her insecurities by humiliating her. A very

809
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: strong who's been the strong and the rock and they ship.

810
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He broke her down, you know,

811
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: because of the time and the time which he did

812
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: at delivery.

813
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: And the heartbreak for me was he thought because he's

814
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: so fucked up in his head from his dad. And also,

815
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: like Tyler said, I don't give people the excuse of

816
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: the dad, bro, because y'all know what I come from,

817
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: and y'all know the type of parent and husband than

818
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 3: I am. Like, because he hasn't figured it out yet.

819
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: He did this to this woman, and he thought because

820
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: his brain is so fucked up, he thought he was

821
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: doing the mature thing and didn't understand till afterwards. He's

822
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: looking at a woman who, let's be honest, reminds me

823
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: a lot of his mom, a real motherfucker, and what

824
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: did you do? The embarrassed her. He made her feel

825
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: like she wasn't enough. He did the exact same shit

826
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: to her that his dad did to his mom, and

827
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: he was so fucked in the head that he didn't

828
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: understand that's what he was doing.

829
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Bro.

830
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: Like that like, that's the part that fucked me up.

831
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: And so I'll say to this. When John was talking

832
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: about getting an apology. My dad's gone. I'm never gonna

833
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: get an apology for my dad. If you're listening to

834
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: this show, if you're a human being, you have to

835
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: arrive at a point where you don't need the apology.

836
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: I guarantee you. Clay's mom never got the apology from

837
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: that motherfucker.

838
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: She deserves you see the city side of shots, like

839
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: you need to marry somebody like me. She said, you

840
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: didn't treat me right, nigga, But let's not talk about

841
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: that no more that nigga's ridiculous. But yeah, yeah, right,

842
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: but I understand that completely, bro. Like the way in

843
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: which he did it was was was was extremely fucked up.

844
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: And then get into the like she signaled to you,

845
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: she knows you're on a journey. She don't. Also, you

846
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You don't have to do

847
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: something you're not comfortable with. So if you're not comfortable

848
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: with that, say it before you know what I'm saying,

849
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: Like you said doing a week ago way.

850
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: Say yes and then talk about it.

851
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: But I think I think her right, I think, yeah, yeah,

852
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: before you actually signed the papers, you feel me. But

853
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: like I think, but also I don't think she was

854
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: going for that bullshit either you can't play no manipulation,

855
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: but her ad ain't about no bullshit, you feel me.

856
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: So I think you had to be real with her

857
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: up front, and I think they had conversations early, but

858
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: he never got to what he should have said. At

859
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: the point was like, I'm not ready to do this,

860
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he thought that because

861
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: he has that mindset where I can get it all

862
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the way to hear and I can fix it. Nigga,

863
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: you can't fix what you did. That's not fixable. And

864
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: she straight up said there's no way we're coming back,

865
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: and people are like hoping. I'm like, nah, she seemed

866
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: like she was said and she told him from jump like, Yo,

867
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: if you don't, if it's a no, it's a no.

868
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get married now. But also she puts

869
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: so much effort in that nigga.

870
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: In that month.

871
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: She put a year's worth the effort in that nigga.

872
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And it's just like, Yo,

873
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm just supposedit and wait for you to go through therapy.

874
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't think she should take him back, you know

875
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Outside outside of the humiliation. I don't

876
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: think any person should wait on any person healing to

877
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: figure them out, to get to get to figure it,

878
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: to figure themselves out. You shouldn't put your life on

879
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: hold for nobody.

880
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: You feel me like like, I think people are riding

881
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: with I think people understand Clay because you know that's

882
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: a rational thing to do. You're you're not ready for it,

883
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: so you know, let's not you know, drag this shit along.

884
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: But the whole prim of love is blind is you

885
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: have to be a bit irrational, right Like, like Clay

886
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: basically Winter the show right right Like like Clay basically

887
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: went up there and said and said, yes, physical attraction

888
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: is important to me, and I want to take my

889
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: time here. This man wanted a beautiful woman he could

890
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: take his time with. Bro get on tender for that.

891
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: That's that what love is blind for. You're supposed to

892
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: blindly fall in love with the motherfucker, have a whirlwind romance,

893
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: and get married in like a month, right Like, that's

894
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: the premise here. And Clay was just like, like, he

895
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: just didn't agree to any of the parameters of this shit.

896
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: And Ady's the one who got hurt in the long run.

897
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: And Tyler he hit the jackpot.

898
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: He got a beautiful woman who was ready to settle down,

899
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: who looked at his flaws, knew they were there, understood

900
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: why they were there, was comfortable with them, and said,

901
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: I will stand by you as you figure this shit out.

902
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: I can be the one who's not afraid right now.

903
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: At some point in the future, I'm gonna be afraid.

904
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to be strong. Like I'm saying,

905
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: this is a forty year old, washed up father of two.

906
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: If you hear that from someone who is in contention

907
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: to marry you, marry that fuck person, dog, that is

908
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: a lifelong upgrade to your quality and like, quality of life, happiness,

909
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: et cetera. You could not ever hear anything from a

910
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: man or a woman that means more than that when

911
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: you've been going out for a month, you know.

912
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 1: What I mean. But on the flip side, why would

913
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: Clay have been in that relationship? You know what I'm saying?

914
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: So for AD's sake, I mean, I I you know,

915
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I think this is personal. You know, I just think

916
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: she deserved better. Bro. I just think are you know,

917
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: like I just I just think that man wasn't gonna

918
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: give her what she deserved the way she approached this shit,

919
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: she was the most. She was by far the most woman.

920
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't seen the other episodes, but i'd imagine

921
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: as far as on all episodes, that's the most. I mean,

922
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: she was as much of a woman as a woman

923
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: could be. Bro, you feel me, And and he just

924
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't have what was necessary, you know what I'm saying,

925
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: in order to and we talk about his dad and

926
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: all that shit whatever. But like I do, I'm glad.

927
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: I hate that she was hurt, but I'm the pain

928
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: of that after on this crazy shit, I think the

929
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: pain of being married to a motherfucker who's trying to

930
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: figure shit out like that would be way worse. Yeah,

931
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, who's who's whose scars are

932
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: so fucking deep? Get you? I want her to have

933
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: a nigga that's healed like her. I bet she got

934
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: her own ship. She spoke to it, never being enough.

935
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: She didn't bring that she she wasn't Chelsea and brought

936
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: all that shit to the fucking relationship.

937
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: She didn't say that seventeen times on camera.

938
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: You know, you feel me.

939
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: She didn't say that seventeen on time. She she she

940
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: had handled her shit, and she deserves somebody who's handled

941
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: they shit. And it hurt me to see that like him,

942
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: get him him, like leaving and her breaking down. You

943
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that all that shit was satisfucked

944
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: and you could see her fighting, wanting to make it work.

945
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: You saw her kiss him like I'm trying to, and

946
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: she just said it had gone too far, you know

947
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: what I mean. She just couldn't go back, and Bro,

948
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: she deserves.

949
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: Better than that.

950
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: Bro.

951
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was, I was, I was always. I

952
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: don't know how I feel about Clay.

953
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: I feel like Clay's a bit guarded and we understand why,

954
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: like he's really never really let us, and maybe there

955
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: was you know, of course, there were probably sides of

956
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: him that A D saw that we didn't see because

957
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: they all twenty fourth right, right. But I'm I'm I'm

958
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: just I don't necessarily like Clay. I don't necessarily dislike Clay,

959
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: but I definitely did not like Clay and a D together.

960
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe my my A D crush is being a

961
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: little bias here, you know what I'm saying. But I

962
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: for sure, Yeah, you know.

963
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: Someone who's got a lot of followers on Twitter.

964
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: Use America as mushy, you know. But but yeah, yeah,

965
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm that might be a part of me.

966
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: That's my Joe RB shit like girl, you deserve so

967
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: much better. But but but but it's true in this

968
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: case this Yeah, yeah, but I was just on on

969
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: the side of things. Well, look, I don't know he's

970
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: right for you, a D. But if you like it,

971
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: I love it, I guess. But but yeah, but you

972
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: know A D said that that you know she thinks

973
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: they're done, and I'm not sure that moment where he

974
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: went to her after they they broke up, that did

975
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: not look like a woman who was done. Listen as

976
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: someone who has been in hot water plenty of times,

977
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: and I saw her lean in and do the four

978
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: head to four head little scoochy smooch on the Oh

979
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: he's still in the game.

980
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: It's still time on the clock.

981
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: Bro.

982
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: If you're still getting them four head to four head

983
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: smoochy smooches, you ain't done.

984
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Bro. She wasn't done in a moment for show as

985
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: a nigga. Be now some hot water self, you know

986
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. In the moment, but also there's a

987
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: moment where it's like, all right, it's it's over with,

988
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like so, I feel like

989
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: in the in the in that moment, she was really

990
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: caught up, and then she started thinking about it. We

991
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: will see when she goes home and is alone, that's

992
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: when that decision is gonna be made. Well she was

993
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: she at night? Was she in the bed by herself

994
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: looking at the ceiling. You do get a little time away,

995
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: you feel me, That's when that decision's gonna make be made.

996
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I personally like Dog like I liked him as a couple.

997
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: I would love for them to work out, not in

998
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: the way I think it's going to have to happen

999
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: where she's going to have to wait because this nigga

1000
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: needs some so it takes a while to total.

1001
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: We're not just putting.

1002
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean? He need a new engine, nigga.

1003
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: You feel me.

1004
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: The whole interior we're just keeping the out, you know

1005
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The jar is totally not pride, right

1006
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: right right, totally. I'll just tell you a check for

1007
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred bucks.

1008
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: You gonna buy me, don't you feel me?

1009
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: That man did a number on play So I don't.

1010
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: I just generational trauma gainst another one.

1011
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Bro, that's what it kind of feels like. I think

1012
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: he will get it. I think he will figure it.

1013
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I think he's he's set on figuring it out. And

1014
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I think this amplified. I agree with you. So I

1015
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: think he will figure it out. I don't know if

1016
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: it's for a D. And that's unfortunate for a D. Yeah,

1017
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: that's so unfortunate. Yeah, I think I think it'll be

1018
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: years down there. I think it's three or four years

1019
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: down the line when he when he when he really

1020
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: gets the type of help he needs, bro, when he

1021
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: gets that full rebuild. Yeah, that when he's terminator two

1022
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: point zero. You know what I'm saying like this, this

1023
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: this version B one is.

1024
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Who that that ship was heart wrenching. I told you before,

1025
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: I am here for the train recks, but not like that.

1026
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: I just want to see motherfuckers crying by the bumper cars.

1027
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: I did not want to see fucking ad up there

1028
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: with a single tear running down her face with him

1029
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: what the fuck like?

1030
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, that's not what I sign up. I want

1031
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: to be clear on that.

1032
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: What she took her eyelashes off too, man, I know

1033
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: she was hurt, niggas we ain't saying after my last

1034
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: she lives great without the eyelashes too anyway, but yeah,

1035
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: the way.

1036
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: She the last note I had on this because it

1037
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: sear and I talked about this moment for a while

1038
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: after it was over last night. The way when he

1039
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: delivered that speech and was like, I want to keep

1040
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: you know, like keep trying. The way she whispered his

1041
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: name and it felt like she was like releasing him

1042
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: from her like whole body and spirit, was like, I

1043
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: want you know, we're we're prestige drama people. You know,

1044
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: like we watched the HBO Sunday night shows. I don't

1045
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: know that I've ever felt from any moment of television

1046
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: when I felt in that, but like that was some real,

1047
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: like it's something physically wrong with my chest.

1048
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: Ship bro. I felt so horrible. We was crying on it.

1049
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: We was we was, we was on that couch just crying.

1050
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: You feel me, But like for me, it's so the

1051
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: differences in who they are where she's like doing that,

1052
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: and how unaware he is due to his his dad,

1053
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, remapping a huge is his child brain, you

1054
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're like he thinks he's doing

1055
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: something that's going to set them up good for the future.

1056
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: He didn't hear. He's not he's not self worded. He

1057
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: didn't hear what she said when she said, Yo, if

1058
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: this happens, I'm not fucking with it. He's like, my nigga,

1059
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: you in this situation, you win. The best thing for

1060
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: you to be is a buck, and to be a

1061
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: buck not when you meet it, like you pointed out,

1062
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and he didn't operate that way.

1063
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like dog like. I feel like

1064
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: she gonna sit and think of taking taking it. When

1065
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: you're in love, you ain't taking an account the day

1066
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: to day, you know what I'm saying. But when he

1067
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: when she breaks down, all the conversations they had and

1068
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: all the times you talk about his dad and for

1069
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: a month, do I really want to go back to

1070
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: back to that shit like this is gonna need therapy now,

1071
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: gar I signed up for this, and she said, A

1072
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: wasting my fucking time. You wait a woman waste feels

1073
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: like you wasted her fucking time. I'm sorry, bro, It's

1074
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: hard to come back from that. So she gave a

1075
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: little forehead kiss that might have been that the kiss

1076
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: of death. You feel me, that's a finish. That might

1077
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: have been a finishing move. We will find out. Love

1078
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: is odd, but you know what I'm saying, We will

1079
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: find out.

1080
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: I know there's not as much drama or exciting stuff

1081
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: to talk about, but let's talk for a little bit

1082
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: about Johnny and Amy just and like, I feel like

1083
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: they edited the show for the same reason. They knew

1084
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: that Clay and a D shit was like, that's a

1085
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: black tar heroin reality show ship. Like they knew they

1086
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: couldn't send people off into the world. At the end

1087
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: of that shit, they had had to clean the palettey

1088
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: had to clean.

1089
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: I have never in my life watching watching the season

1090
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: look forward to a Johnny and Amy cut away as

1091
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: much as I did.

1092
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: Hair.

1093
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, we need to cleanse this palet.

1094
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: We need a feel good story here, and they delivered

1095
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: on that ship. I think all of us at the

1096
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: beginning we said that that's the only couple that's gonna

1097
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: make it. But I think we got kind of steered

1098
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: because even though we felt like, you know, uh, Jimmy

1099
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: and Chelsea went right for each other, Clay and a

1100
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: D weren't right for each other.

1101
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: We felt like there's gonna be some delusion at the

1102
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: altar where people.

1103
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: Were still right fear anxiety, you know, yeah.

1104
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but but but Johnny Johnny is that

1105
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: his name? N I learned his name on his wedding day, right,

1106
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: But Johnny Johnny and Amy, they were just so perfect

1107
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: for each other. Bro and I really I think they're

1108
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: gonna last. Like, you know, the ceremony was great. You

1109
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: saw after the ceremony there wasn't any holy ship. What

1110
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: the fuck that I did? Johnny was like, Bro, I

1111
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: won the fucking lottery here. They were doing little dances

1112
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: and ship together. They're gonna make it, Bro, Like I know, Mike,

1113
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: you are a bit hesitant for Bro. The biggest argument

1114
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: that they had was Johnny like, hey, I really want

1115
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: to raw dog that pussy Like that was the biggest.

1116
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: Argument, right, And they're gonna work past that. They're gonna

1117
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna fight the way, Bro.

1118
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: You just want to be busting open the way God

1119
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: wants you to. You know what I'm saying. He's religious.

1120
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: We call that a resolvable issue. It's like, yo, let's

1121
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: keep it real. Nats around here.

1122
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: You feel that was the other funny. That was the

1123
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: other funniest moment real before we get to their wedding.

1124
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: That was the funniest moment. What Ad said, I know

1125
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: she fucking that. Man. You say whatever you need to

1126
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 3: say for your daddy, your pastor on this television show.

1127
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: But I know she's fucking that.

1128
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1129
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: I want to say to the brand that is a

1130
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: d is brolic nigga, You feel me? I feel like, Hey,

1131
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be hard for Clay because it's gonna

1132
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: be a bunch of real niggas out here.

1133
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: They want to bet.

1134
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: A couple parents and her women are fans of her,

1135
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: like she's a girl's girl and she a baddie nigga.

1136
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: She gonna be ay, you feel me?

1137
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: She a whole daytime TV talk show circuit for like

1138
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: two months talk about need a d spinoff.

1139
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: Bro, she built you know what I'm saying. But that

1140
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: conversation that she had as a Sarah Ann, I don't know.

1141
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't really know that, Okay, Yes, Sarah her dad bro.

1142
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that Sarah. The conversation that Jim Uh

1143
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: the MLB face and moody Mary Amy Amy, Her name

1144
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: was Amy. Her name is Amy Wow, that was name.

1145
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: That would have been the last name. I guess that

1146
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: would be the exact last name. You know what I'm saying, like, anyway,

1147
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: so Amy, Wow, they don't make Amies anymore crazy anyway,

1148
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: I still remember that because it's so uncommon now. Anyway,

1149
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: regardless of that, the delivery I'm tripping of her name

1150
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: is fucking Amy. I feel like I never knew that.

1151
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: I never really took that information in so um crazy.

1152
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: But the delivery of that of what the the dad's

1153
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: broad speech saying that speech, the dad speech, I I

1154
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: imagine son me and thinking about those little hands in

1155
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: that moment, Oh my god, bro, I started crying to

1156
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: where like I had to start taking deep breaths. I

1157
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: was sobby. Rather came over and I that took that

1158
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. Yeah, and for him to do that

1159
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: on television, and oh that was just a such a

1160
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: their their whole shit was so beautiful that moment right

1161
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: there for me as a father of a daughter. You

1162
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, Oh my god, the strength

1163
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: they must have taken to get through that. And then

1164
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: they hit it with the little funny, funny joke at

1165
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: the end to kind of like clear, when I walked

1166
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: Joy down the aisle, I couldn't look at her. Every

1167
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: time I looked at her that entire day when she

1168
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: had once she put the wedding dress on, Joy was like,

1169
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: keep him away from me. He gonna rule my makeup,

1170
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I saw her first time,

1171
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I just put my head down, you know what I mean.

1172
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: And I didn't stop feeling emotional until we were walking

1173
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: down the aisle and I saw her looking at Trade

1174
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, she gone, like that's not my

1175
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: little it's over with, bro, Like tighten up, my nigga.

1176
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like the moment's past, that's

1177
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying. That's who she's with,

1178
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like so like anyway, but

1179
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: I just can't. I don't know how people walk they

1180
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: they shorty down the aisle, bro, Like, I just don't know.

1181
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: Bro. I think I have the same No, I had

1182
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 3: the same emotion. And then shar had the same feeling

1183
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: when Johnny was standing there with his mom. Yeah, yeah

1184
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: that was beautiful that she like she she had to

1185
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: like positive. She was like, he's too little, That's what

1186
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: she said, she's thinking about her son. She's like how

1187
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: she shed she saw Benny.

1188
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: She saw Benny. Bro.

1189
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the way they're holding hands and stuff. She's

1190
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 3: just like like she had to say that same feeling

1191
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: of like wait, what like this is happen He's ten

1192
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: years old? That ten years went like that dog like.

1193
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Bro, but what what the moment? What it's really going

1194
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: to happen? Yeah, that's I think That's why I was sharp,

1195
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: and that's what I felt. I was like, wait, wait,

1196
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: like I know right now, she's my baby girl. She

1197
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: wakes up and cud us with daddy and all that shit,

1198
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: calls me Johnny aside, it's a cute shit. I get

1199
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: to hold those baby hands, but one day it's real

1200
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be there, right, And I had a moment

1201
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: and that fucked me up. But that that whole their

1202
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: whole ship was full of love and joy from both sides,

1203
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: even the sisters saying I have a new family. God

1204
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: damn bro. Well that was beautiful.

1205
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: The other thing I thought was beautiful with them that

1206
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: I do also feel like filled in kind of a

1207
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: big puzzle piece on their relationship, which obviously there hasn't

1208
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: been a lot of drama, so they haven't like, you know,

1209
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 3: the only drama was like when they're running around the house,

1210
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 3: good for them, television down the stairs. Yeah, they shit

1211
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: better than TV, you know. Well, he read and I

1212
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: read an interview he did with people this morning when

1213
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: I was looking through stuff for the show. He said

1214
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: he felt like almost uncomfortable with the fact that they

1215
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: hadn't had any actual fights because it was like heat

1216
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: because they're like, we should know how we're gonna be

1217
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: in these situations before I get married. But they talked

1218
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: about it and we're like, we're not gonna make up

1219
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: a fight. Maybe it's just gonna be like this, you

1220
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's a great way to see

1221
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: the world together. But the piece of the puzzle I

1222
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: think we got with them was her little brother that

1223
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: helped walk her down the aisle too right, and he

1224
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: seemed like, look, I don't want to assume anything. This

1225
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 3: is clearly it was something she said she did not

1226
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: want to be a part of her storyline and sort

1227
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: of set the bounds. But he seems like he might

1228
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 3: have been right, like he might have had special needs

1229
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: of some type, and she was clearly very protective of him.

1230
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: And she told him before she walked down the aisle,

1231
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: I've got your back forever. We have a lot of

1232
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: friends who and actually have a couple of friends who

1233
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: are women who have younger brothers or older brother with

1234
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: special needs. And I would tell you the relationship they

1235
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: have with their husband is different than any other relationship

1236
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: because the shit that a girl, especially looking out for

1237
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: her brother, goes through the jokes they hear. The shiit

1238
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: here that clearly was part of the relationship between the

1239
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: two of them was this is someone.

1240
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I trust with my family.

1241
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: Like we heard her talk about that, but it was

1242
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: always expresses her dad, because that was clearly what she

1243
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 3: told the producers. They were comfortable with being on TV.

1244
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: But you could see the way Johnny hugged their brothers

1245
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: and stuff when they got up there. Those two people

1246
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: been married for a while, Like we just saw the wedding,

1247
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: we did, you know what I mean, they were married

1248
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: when they saw each other for the first time. You know,

1249
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: it's to me like they were just soul mats. Bro,

1250
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: they're soulmates. They like when you talk about your person,

1251
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: they found their person.

1252
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: You feel me. They're they're they're the lucky ones, not

1253
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: just in You know what I'm saying, Fucking love is

1254
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: blind but in life. So like, bro, like I said,

1255
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, they was born to hill. I ain't know

1256
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: her name was ain'ty to write now, but fuck that.

1257
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: They don't matter, nigga. You know what I'm saying, They

1258
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: was born because they was so right for each other.

1259
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: Good for them, Bro, that was truly beautiful to see.

1260
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: I love that for him, Like, like, I feel like

1261
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: it's such a contrast because like take Jimmy and Chelsea

1262
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: for instance, during that breakup conversation, Chelsea was.

1263
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: Like, marriage is hard. It's a lot of work, and

1264
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: jim and and and Jimmy was like, bro, this ship

1265
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: is easy.

1266
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 2: And and you know, I feel like we've discussed this before,

1267
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: like you know, we hear that that ship every time

1268
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: marriage is hard, you're gonna have to fight every day

1269
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: for your love.

1270
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 4: Not in my marriage, bro.

1271
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm someone who, like I've told y'all this before,

1272
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm someone who never had aspirations to get married until

1273
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: I met the summer fucking fell wildly in love with

1274
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: this woman, and I married her because it was never

1275
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: easier being with anyone.

1276
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

1277
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: And we're coming up on six years in August, and

1278
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: that shit has been smooth, fucking sailing, right. It is

1279
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 2: so easy being with her, So I don't subscribe to

1280
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: the whole. Oh, marriage is hard, You're gonna have to

1281
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: put a lot of work. You do have to put

1282
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: in work at times. So of course y'all are gonna come.

1283
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: You know, there's gonna gonna you're gonna come across obstacles

1284
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: together and such, of course, But it's so fucking easy

1285
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: being with my wife, dude. And I wouldn't and and

1286
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: and to keep it up, buck, I would not have

1287
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: signed up for some hard ship. I ain't gonna lie

1288
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: to you, and I don't want to be misconstrued like

1289
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm holding ask when shit gets hard, No, I will

1290
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: fuck I'm toes down in the trenches with this woman forever.

1291
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: But it's so fucking easy being with her. That's what

1292
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: I do not subscribe to. That marriage is hard work

1293
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: every day you gotta fight for your love. Shit not

1294
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: on this side, bro.

1295
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: If you coming home and it's like work every day,

1296
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: just like like fighting like that, I don't just don't

1297
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: understand that. Like it should like home should feel like home,

1298
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: like some something you somewhere you belong, you know what

1299
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean. And I just feel like, where if you

1300
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: all that arguing and shit, I'm looking at that shit,

1301
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, bruh, like me and rather like, couldn't be me, Nigga.

1302
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, ain't no motherfucking way that

1303
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: doesn't look like happiness. I think you, I think you

1304
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's not happen. It's happiness

1305
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: is being content And like you said, there's moments. We

1306
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: have moments that's okay, but the you know what I'm saying,

1307
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: like like it shouldn't be that fucking knocked down. You

1308
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, motherfucking bat, that's crazy. You have

1309
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: a moment, you move on. It's it's for the most part,

1310
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: it should be you know, count that's what you should feel.

1311
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I want to feel. That's what

1312
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I feel. I just can't imagine like going into marriage

1313
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: thinking that it's a fucking war and you got the battle.

1314
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1315
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: No, iogether, I also think their wedding reflected exactly what

1316
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: the two of you were talking about.

1317
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: And I like, I'm not saying this is like a

1318
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: skill or something but like I feel like shar and

1319
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: I can always tell when we're at a wedding, you

1320
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean, where you're like, really hope it

1321
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: works out for the best for them, hoping it's the

1322
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: softest landing possible. And now you can tell when you're

1323
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: a wedding where you're like, this is great. I'm just

1324
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: so happy for both these people. You can feel how

1325
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: natural this is. You can feel the way that you

1326
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: can feel the lack of tension from their families, you

1327
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We've been at a lot of

1328
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: both of those types of weddings, and I feel like

1329
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: you could tell, and you could tell, like I said,

1330
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: you could tell with Clay and a d Shit you're

1331
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: in the wrong type of TV show right now, dog,

1332
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: And you can tell what Johnny and Amy. It's like

1333
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: I could be at that wedding and not know those

1334
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: people and have a great time because you can just

1335
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: see how happy everyone who.

1336
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: Knows them best.

1337
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: In the air ship, bro, the trees are getting pregnant

1338
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: at that wedding, you know what I mean, Like like

1339
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: it was pheromones flying and outwhere, like it was.

1340
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: A good omen to be there. You know what I'm saying, right,

1341
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: for sure, the realm was smiling.

1342
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: Bro.

1343
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah that ship.

1344
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: Yes, y'all are so right, man, it's not you have

1345
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: to be willing to fight for your marriage for sure.

1346
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: Your marriage can't be a fight. That's how I'm right,

1347
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: that's perfect. I just yeah, but so so that's crazy.

1348
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: It's it's a running joke at the five six two.

1349
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: I'll text people like Sear and I had our annual

1350
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: fight last night. Bro, I'm gonna take the day off

1351
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: work because I just don't like being around people. When

1352
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: we argued about something, you know what I mean, like,

1353
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: and it's usually Game of Thrones or something.

1354
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1355
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: Usually no argument about expanding our direct TV package, like

1356
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: some bullshit like that, right, I mean.

1357
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: A hundred yeah, one hundred percent. But like we're two

1358
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: people who because I was talking about with our family,

1359
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: we didn't think we were gonna get married. We got

1360
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: engaged at twenty one. Bro. It was just like, well, shit,

1361
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this with anyone else. Every

1362
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: time you're around things are better. Why would I not

1363
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: want more of that? All right?

1364
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: Man?

1365
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: Uh, Season seven is coming in September October. Something We've

1366
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: got Washington, d C. Yes, we got Now we need

1367
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: to talk about that too.

1368
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: You got reunion?

1369
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah, we're gonna get caught up on

1370
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: where they're at now. You know this is this is

1371
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 2: like five six months.

1372
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: Here's my question the reunion. Are there usually so many storylines?

1373
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: Because I think we're all like, is Jimmy gonna end

1374
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 3: up with with the old girl? With the other girl?

1375
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, the girl I don't think.

1376
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't think does he end up with Happy pant?

1377
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: Does Trevor come swoop? Chelsea up? Did Clay and a

1378
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: d Like?

1379
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: I for sure want to deserve each other with more information? Yeah,

1380
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 5: get that ex all up on fucking all up on

1381
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 5: the McDonald's McDonald moon.

1382
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: Is that normal or is it usually more like, like,

1383
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: I guess I wouldn't say it's a cliffhanger, but I

1384
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: feel like there's several relationships where you're like, I wonder

1385
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: what happened here?

1386
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1387
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everyone's gonna be on the stage. They're gonna

1388
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: catch u up on where they are right now?

1389
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: So is it normally that way?

1390
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: You're like, is Jeremy with this other girl?

1391
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, cool, that's gonna be a doozy and.

1392
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it live again this year, and hopefully

1393
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: it's not gonna crash.

1394
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 4: That's the that's the plan I think they're doing with

1395
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: the live aliens. I don't think they're doing it live.

1396
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Good Man, don't funk there said they were doing it

1397
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: live again. I hope not.

1398
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: I think I thought she did. She said that's only

1399
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: because that's what she said. That's only one she hadn't seen.

1400
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: She gets to be like the rest of us for that,

1401
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: for that, for that episode.

1402
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: Us normy.

1403
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: I was cracking up at the clip Jackson put together

1404
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: where she was laughing about the fact that she'd seen

1405
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: the finale already and we had, and I was like, damn,

1406
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: that's really that's the height of power right there, using

1407
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: your celebrity to go reality show finales.

1408
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: Early Netflix screen is of their flagship Real Crazy.

1409
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: That's crazy dog. Okay, So we will have I assume

1410
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna do a recap next week of the of

1411
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: the reunion and then yeah, I'm already excited for September October.

1412
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: Shar and I are talking we're gonna have We're gonna

1413
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: have at least one watch party, maybe we'll do it

1414
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: for the for the weddings or something, but we'll have

1415
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: people over and ship John, You and Rather are welcome, obviously,

1416
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: so but yes, I'm I'm I'm all the way tapped

1417
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 3: in from the the first second of The Pods to.

1418
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: The reunion for season seven, So so happy on board

1419
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: with your boys. Hey man, that was bro, really really

1420
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: good television. Bro and Rather. At one point she was like,

1421
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: I was so like when when when Clay said when

1422
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Clay said, like, did the speech Ship, I didn't hear

1423
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 1: the whole speech, So I just got up and walked away,

1424
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: like I took my shirt off, Bro, and I was

1425
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: just I got hot. You have to like a basketball

1426
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: player who lost right right right your chance, nigga, you

1427
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: blew it. Fuck nigga, you know what I'm saying, new Yo,

1428
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: goofy ass didn't deserve her. Took my shirt all the

1429
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: way off. I come and sit down. Rather's dying laughing.

1430
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: She goes, I'm so glad you're into this. This is

1431
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: the best thing that's ever happened to because and that's

1432
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 1: marriage fun. Nigga, What the fuck you know? It doesn't

1433
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: have to be Chelsea and Jimmy, you know, we can

1434
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: laugh all fucking day and be you know.

1435
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: Come on, man, But yeah, gee, I told y'all, man,

1436
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: it's perfect couple. Tell me, like, the main reason I

1437
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: got into this is because you know, it's wife guy time.

1438
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: It's because I fucking love doing shit with my wife.

1439
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: I love doing it with Summer, which in them together

1440
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: and commentate on because we don't watch a lot of

1441
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: the same TV. Maybe because I don't watch a lot

1442
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: of fucking TV. Right, So yeah, so I love that that.

1443
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: You know, me and wife you have this this together,

1444
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: and I love that child we have have it with y'all. Now,

1445
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: this ship was fun as hell man, for sure.

1446
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: Man, it was.

1447
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: It was so fun. Sean and I like, and you know,

1448
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: we were playing catch up because we we miss out

1449
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: on some of the pod stuff, but I put on

1450
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: the next ones while we were working, and by the

1451
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: end of the first episode we watched together, we were

1452
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: just like, all me this computer, Bro, let's climb into

1453
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: this ship together. You know what do you think of

1454
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: this motherfucker? I think gay as fuck? Like, oh ship? Anyway,

1455
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: thank you.

1456
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: Gray, so thanks Tyler for real, it was a great experience, bro.

1457
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: There was just I never while literally never would have

1458
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: watched it, and I've been sitting with rather watching the

1459
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: end sometimes because there were certain parts like when you

1460
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: brought up Old Boy Shake. I saw that reunion episode,

1461
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: but I was working because we're like, I'll work in

1462
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: the in with us saying by each other while while

1463
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: she's watching TV, so we could you know, bond still

1464
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: and so like, but I'll taping, like what's up, What's

1465
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: what's going on? And she'd be like, that's watching. I'm like,

1466
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it. You feel me? And so

1467
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: that's how I knew his sake was. But I actually

1468
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: sat down and watched it and bro like, I think,

1469
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: this is this the only reality television show you would

1470
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: because I felt like this was this makes me think

1471
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: different about reality television or is this just the show

1472
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: this is? This is the one show that this is

1473
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: the one stay away from the rest of But she

1474
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: watched all of them. Yeah, it's it's the only reality show.

1475
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: I did watch the Ultimatum. I don't even know if

1476
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: they produced that anymore.

1477
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: Basically, these it's a bunch of couples who are who

1478
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: are like on the brinks, and they all go into

1479
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: like the same house and everyone's free to date each other.

1480
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: So and then they decide if that sounds like I

1481
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: like that, that's.

1482
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: Not that's not false.

1483
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: No, the blend of the psychological experiment and the real

1484
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: ship on this show, with the reality show like comedy

1485
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: and the jet skis and ship, it was perfect for me.

1486
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: We used to watch like, we used to have watch

1487
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: parties in one of our friend's dorm rooms at UCLA

1488
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: for Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire? And it was

1489
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: just all crap about that ship.

1490
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1491
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: But but reality show wise, the other stuff we tried,

1492
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, we have some of our friends are like

1493
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: very into the Bachelor Bachelorette and do watch parties for

1494
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: that ship, and it's it's just that stuff.

1495
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: This is not.

1496
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: The ship that's like two reality showy. For me, it's

1497
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: just not that interesting, that blend of like the real

1498
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: emotions and conversations in this where it's not just what

1499
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 3: feels like a bunch of people trying to go viral,

1500
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: which is the worst type of people to spend your

1501
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: time with. Obviously, That's that's what makes this show special

1502
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: for me too, for sure. So we'll see so June.

1503
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: If you're a fan of the Jenkins and Jones episode recaps,

1504
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: recap episodes. We got the new House of Dragons coming

1505
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: out in June, and then this is the next Love

1506
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: Is Blinds coming out in September October.

1507
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: So you know, hey, I want to know how many

1508
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: people are actually fucking with Showgun. I think Showgun has

1509
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: a recept. I want to know, hit us somebody with Shogun,

1510
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying.

1511
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: Because the debut did ten million viewers, which was the

1512
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: most watched FX show since think the Breaking Bad finale

1513
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 3: or something.

1514
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not nothing.

1515
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: I tapped in with the premiere. It's it's incredible. I'm

1516
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: watching the episode two today. Bro.

1517
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Midway through episode two, strap me in, strap me the

1518
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: fucking no, no, no, no, I'm not telling stories. I'm

1519
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: not telling stories. I'm just saying, strap me into the nigga.

1520
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm ready. I'm you know, I'm saying I'm

1521
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: prepared for what is to come. You know what I mean?

1522
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: You got me, they got me, they got me. You

1523
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: gotta play Ghost of Sushima.

1524
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: Bro.

1525
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: Oh, for real, that's the hardest shit. I mean, I

1526
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: think I might do that because it anymore and I

1527
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: just need just something I need something to like.

1528
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: It'stten. It's Red Dead, bro, It's Red Dead with swords, dog.

1529
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: It's just.

1530
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

1531
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: It's just, and it's you know, you're it's just said

1532
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: in medieval Japan and you're a samurai ghost samurai. I

1533
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: think the guns in Red Dead made me enjoy it more,

1534
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: but I'm down to try it. What is it like

1535
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: forty bucks? Yeah, yeah, sixty, It's all good.

1536
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 3: I don't know anyway. Thank you so much for for

1537
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: tapping in with us. We'll be back on Monday with

1538
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: our next regular episode, and like we said, we'll have

1539
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: the the reunion recap next week as well.

1540
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: We'll see yull soon. Bye. I was heavy.

1541
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: Bye.

1542
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: We got real with the volume