1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Karen of Volatile week in equity markets comes to an 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: end with futures higher. The week started with a three 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: percent drop for the S and P five hundred. The 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: index then gained in two of its next three sessions, 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: including yesterday's two point three percent advance, its best session 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: since November of twenty twenty two. Lori Calvacina, head of 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: US equity strategy at OURBC Capital Market, says, a lot 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: of negative catalysts converged this week. 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: We were vulnerable for a lot of different reasons. I 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: think that's all come to play this week, and obviously 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: the end carry trade, what happened with the economic data 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: last week, that's all front and center. But we also 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: had stretched sentiment on a variety of indicators that were 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: basically telling me for a while, regardless of what the 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: issue was, we were vulnerable to some downside. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: RBC's Lori Calvacina attributed yesterday's gains to the labor market. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Fewer people applied for unemployment benefits than expected. 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: Well at one point. Nathan interest rates swaps applied a 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 4: sixty percent chance of an emergency rate cut by the 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: Fed in the coming week, well before it's next scheduled 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: meeting in September. Current pricing suggests about forty basis points 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: of cuts for September, but Richmond FED President Thomas Markin 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: says policymakers will be in a good position to assess 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 4: the economy over the coming months. 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: I think you've got some time in a healthy economy 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: to figure out whether this is an economy that's gently 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: moving into a normalizing state that will allow you to 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: you know, in a steady, deliberate way normalized rates, you know, 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: and hit the stick the landing. If I could use 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 5: another balance beam analogy, or you know, is this one 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: where you really do have to lean into it. 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: As for the labor market, Richmond Feds Thomas Markin says 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: he does not see widespread layoffs as imminent. 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: And Karen another FED official signaling he's not ready to 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: cut rates just jet. Kansas City FED president Jeffrey Schmid says, quote, 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: we are not quite there in cooling inflation. Schmid is 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: among the more hawkish FED. 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 6: Officials well in Asia. 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: Nathan China's consumer prices rose more than expected in July, 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: and that's boosting the case for more central bank support. 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 4: CPI came in at half percent, beating estimates. Bloomberg. John 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: lew says a lot of that rise came from bad weather. 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 6: This data characterizes this economy as having as being one 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 6: with very little demand and one in which a companies 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 6: business is a very weak pricing power. 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: In Bloomberg, John lou As at China's Politburo has voud 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: to make boosting consumer spending a greater policy focus. 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's chick some stocks on the move this morning. 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Karen Shares of Taiwan's Semiconductor are up more than four percent. 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Revenue rows forty five percent in July, accelerating its pace 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: of growth from the June quarter. TSMC is also bolstering 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: hopes for sustained strong demand for artificial intelligence chips from 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: the likes of Nvidia. Also keeping an eye on shares 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: of Expedia, there nearly eleven percent. The travel company posted 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: earnings above estimates, and Pidney bows is surging twenty two percent. 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: The shipping firm also topped earnings estimates. 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: Well. Now to the latest on the presidential race Nathan. 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: Former President Donald Trump is looking to reclaim the spotlight 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: after the weave of democratic enthusiasm for a vice president 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. In an hour long news conference at ismar 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: a Lago estate in Florida, challenged Harris to three debates 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: next month on Fox, ABC and NBC, and he went 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: after the vice president for not answering reporters questions herself. 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 7: She hasn't done an interview. 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 8: She can't do an interview. 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 9: She's barely competent and she can't do an interview. 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 7: But I look forward to the debates because. 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 6: I think we have to set the record straight. 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: Till now, Trump had suggested he didn't see and need 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: to debate Harris because he was ahead in the polls 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: well Karin. 75 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: The former president also put his record against the Federal Reserve, 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: saying presidents should have some say over monetary policy. 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 8: In my case, I've made a lot of mine. I 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 8: was very successful, and. 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 7: I think I have a better instinct than in many 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 7: cases people that would be on the Federal Reserve or 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 7: the chairman. 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Trump also dismissed the idea there wouldn't be a peaceful 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: transfer of power if he's not elected. He also said 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: he does not think abortion rights will be a big 85 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: issue in the campaign. As for the debates, Vice President 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: Harris says she looks forward to debating Trump on ABC 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: News September tenth, but she will not appear with him 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: on Fox Before that. She will appear with President Biden 89 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: next week in their first joint appearance since the President 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: dropped his reelection bid. The White House says Biden and 91 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: Harris will head to Maryland next Thursday to discuss how 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: they're lowering costs for Americans Well Nathan. 93 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: Vice President Harris has received some major support from Silicon Valley. 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has that story. 95 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 7: A group of about twelve hundred technology workers has pledged 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 7: to back her ticket Tech for Kamala, in a public letter, 97 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 7: calling Harris an archetypical innovator and champion of technology who 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 7: worked to access STEM education, remote entrepreneurship, and close the 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 7: digital equity gap. People who signed the letter did so 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 7: on personal capacities, not representing companies, but they come from 101 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 7: companies including Apple, Meta, and Salesforce. It says it wants 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 7: to mobilize the community of over seven million workers in 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 7: San Francisco, add Baxter, Bloomberg Radio. 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, ed Now to the latest from the Middle East. 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: The US, Katar and Egypt are calling for a new 106 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: round of ceasefire talks to be held August fifteenth. It 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: would be the latest attempt by the Biden administration to 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: end the war in Gaza as the Middle East braces 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: for an expected Iranian attack on Israel. Bloomberg's Rosalind Mathieson says, 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: negotiations have been in the works for a while. 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 10: This has been, as you know, these very long running 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 10: discussions around how to get a ceasefire for Gaza and 113 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 10: to stop the war at least for now between Israel 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 10: and Hamas, and all these efforts to be going on 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 10: around the clock for months from the US, Katar in 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 10: Egypt and others to try and get everybody over the line. 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 10: But the sticking point that really remains is that what 118 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 10: is this ceaspar going to be a pathway too. 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Ros Matheson says. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's office posted 120 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: on x that Israel will send a delegation to the 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: planned discussions. There's no immediate comment from Hamas. 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: And it's time now for a look at some of 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: the other stories making news in New York and around 124 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: the world. And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 4: Good morning, Yeah, Good morning, Karen. 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 11: Bring an umbrella to work today and hold on tight. 127 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 11: The remnants of Debbie will be with us soon. Rob 128 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 11: carolind is tracking the storm for us this morning. 129 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 7: John. 130 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 12: The remnants of Debbie pass well to the west of 131 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 12: the Tristate area. That means we miss out on the 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 12: heavy rain, but we will see some gusty winds. That's 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 12: why the National Weather Service has the region under a 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 12: wind advisory from noon today till over eleven pm tonight. 135 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 12: Could see some gusts up over thirty five miles nowur 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 12: in some of the thunderstorms associated with the east side 137 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 12: of what was Debbie. There will be some heavy downpours 138 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 12: from time to time. John Bloomberg meteorologist Rob Carolyn. Police 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 12: in Vienna this morning and seeing a third teenager has 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 12: been arrested in connection with a foiled attack on now 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 12: canceled Taylor Swift concerts. The eighteen year old was taken 142 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 12: into custody and were allegedly being contact with the main suspect. 143 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 12: Investigators found bomb making materials at one of the suspects homes. 144 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 12: Officials say a. 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 11: Suspect has confessed to planning to kill as many people 146 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 11: as possible outside the concert venue in Vienna. After two 147 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 11: lackluster years, Wall Street bonuses they're poised to jump in 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 11: virtually every sector of the industry. Let's get details from 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 11: Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 6: Debt underwriting is likely to be the biggest winner. According 151 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 6: to a report from compensation consultant Johnson Associates, Bankers who 152 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 6: help companies sell debt may see payouts well as much 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: as thirty five percent as deals pick up and capital 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 6: markets rebound from multi year lows. The forecast follows strong 155 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 6: second quarter performances from American and European banks after rising 156 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 6: stock prices around the world, fuel demands and on trading 157 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 6: desks in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg. 158 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 11: Radio freed last week in the largest East West prisoner 159 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 11: swap since the Cold War. Seventy one year old egg 160 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 11: Orloff is speaking out and describing wide scale repression in 161 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 11: Russia under Vladimir Putin. He tells the AP people are 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 11: in prison for merely criticizing authorities, something unseen since the 163 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 11: days of Dictator Joseph Stalin Global News twenty four hours 164 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 11: a day, whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, 165 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 11: I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Nathan and. 166 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 4: Karen ll Right, John, thank you time out for the 167 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: Bloomberg score something but John stash hour, John, Good. 168 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 13: Morning, Good morning, Karen. A lot of people calling it 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 13: the most exciting game in Olympic basketball history, semifinals against Serbia, 170 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 13: who the US had blown out twice previously. This time, 171 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 13: the US found itself down by seventeen, by thirteen entering 172 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 13: in the fourth quarter of a furious rally and a 173 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 13: ninety five to ninety one US victory. Plenty of heroes done, 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 13: more so than Sef Curry, who poured in thirty six points. 175 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 13: His coach, both in the NBA and the Olympics is 176 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 13: Steve Kerr. 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 14: It's impossible to rank Steph's performances because there have been 178 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 14: so many of them, so many big games. 179 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 6: But it's different. 180 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 14: Playing for USA Basketball than it is playing for your 181 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 14: NBA team. You know, you're literally playing for your country, 182 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 14: and so it didn't surprise me at all that Steph 183 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 14: had the game that he did. 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 13: So it's the US against France tomorrow for the gold. 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 13: As it was three years ago, this time the French 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 13: will have home court advantage. Noah Lyles did not win 187 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 13: the gold medal in the two hundred meters, settled for bronze, 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 13: and then came a bigger surprise. He has COVID. He's 189 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 13: added since Tuesday was allowed to run. The gold won 190 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 13: by Letsial Tobogo from Botswana. There were three US gold 191 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 13: medals in track and field. Grand Holloway the one hundred 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 13: and ten meter hurdle. Sidney McLachlin Levarn won her second 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 13: straight goal in the four hundred meter hurdles. Tara Davis 194 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 13: Woodhall the women's long jump. Yankees in the rain in 195 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 13: the Bronx lost to the Angels nine to four, LA 196 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 13: with a six run fifth INNY, knocking out Nester Cortez, 197 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 13: who suffered his tenth loss. Yankees are twenty over five hundred, 198 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 13: but at home only thirty and twenty six, still time 199 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 13: for first with Baltimore, who lost in Toronto, Me's one 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 13: nine to one at Colorado pe A Lonzo Homer twice. 201 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 13: Mets move ahead of Atlanta in both the NL East 202 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 13: and for the third NL wildcard preseason football on a 203 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 13: rainy night at Medlife. The Giants got two second quarter 204 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 13: touchdowns from Eric Ray. The first one was a forty 205 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 13: eight yard run. They beat the Lions fourteen to three. 206 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 13: Hall of Fame golfer Chichi Rodriguez has passed away at 207 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 13: eighty eight. 208 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 6: John stashawerre Bloomberg Sports Down. 209 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 13: And Nathan. 210 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 15: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM, 211 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 15: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 212 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 15: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm 213 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 15: Nathan Hager. 214 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: Former President Donald Trump is looking to reclaim the momentum 215 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four presidential race. 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 14: Our country is right now in the most dangerous position 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 14: it's ever been in, from an economic standpoint, from a 218 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 14: safety standpoint. 219 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: And in an hour long news conference from his mar 220 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: A Lago resort, the Republican presidential nominee challenged his new 221 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, to three debates next month, 222 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: after earlier suggesting he didn't see a need for them 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: to do any debates at all. Joining us for more. 224 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawless, professor and chair of the Politics Department at 225 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: the University of Virginia. Jennifer, good morning. So we've gone 226 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: from zero to three from the former president when it 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: comes to debates. What do you make of this whipsaw 228 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: from the former president and his attempt to reclaim the 229 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: spotlight from mar A Laco, good morning. 230 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 9: I think it demonstrates that he feels far more vulnerable 231 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 9: now running against Kamalin Harris than he did against Joe Biden. 232 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 9: And he also realizes that she's gaining momentum and he 233 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 9: can't duck the debates. If he's going to win this race, 234 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 9: it has to be a real contest and people have 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 9: to hear from him going to be an automatic win. 236 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: We've seen the enthusiasm on the Democratic side, the kinds 237 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: of rallies that we used to see for former President 238 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: Trump with Vice President Harris filling stadiums. Now, is this 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: just a sugar rush or is this where the momentum 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: is going. 241 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 9: It might have started out as a sugar rush, but 242 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 9: it seems like it's now a substantively excited electorate. And 243 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 9: the thing that Harris has going for her is she 244 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 9: only needs to keep this up for ninety days. This 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 9: is not a fifteen or sixteen month campaign where she 246 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 9: needs to sustain the excitement. So if I were Donald 247 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 9: Trump right now, I would also be nervous because the 248 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 9: Democrats had been pretty lackluster for several months, and now 249 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 9: the excitement is certainly on their side now. 250 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: The former president did criticize Vice President Harris during that 251 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: news conference for not doing very many interviews herself, not 252 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: of hearing at any news conferences since she announced her campaign. 253 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Is there a risk there for Vice President Harris to 254 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: be perceived as ducking the media. 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 9: I think if she continues this way, there's a risk. 256 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 9: But it's only been a couple of weeks, and it's 257 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 9: actually only been a couple of days since she received 258 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 9: the delegate support that she needed to become the presumptive nominee. 259 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 9: So my sense is that over the course of the 260 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 9: next ninety days, she will engage with the media, she 261 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 9: will do these interviews, but right now she's introducing herself 262 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 9: and her running mates to the American people. 263 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: And Vice President Harris does say that she looks forward 264 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: to debating former President Trump on the encounter that he 265 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: did agree to with President Biden on September tenth, but 266 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: isn't going to appear with him on Fox before that? 267 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: Should she agree to all three that the former president 268 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: put out there. 269 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 8: Of her to participate in three debates? 270 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 9: But I don't think that she has to agree to 271 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 9: the three that he put out there. 272 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 8: She's running just like he is. 273 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 9: She has say an agency over which networks she debates on, 274 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 9: what the rules are. And frankly, Fox News has been 275 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 9: denying the twenty twenty election. 276 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 8: They've been fined for it. 277 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 9: I can see why Kamala Harrison Demok in general would 278 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 9: be very reluctant to use them as a venue. 279 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: So do you think that they actually are going to 280 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: debate if Harris does not agree to the Fox debate, 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: that they will at least have that one encounter or 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: more beyond that. 283 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 8: I do. 284 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 9: I think that the September tenth ABC debate is now 285 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 9: basically said. 286 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 8: They've both agreed to those terms. 287 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 9: Donald Trump already backed out once and then went against 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 9: what he said and joined the debate again. If he 289 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 9: backs out again, it'll just look too wishy washy. I 290 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 9: can't imagine that he's. 291 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 8: Going to do that now. 292 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: We just got word this morning from the White House 293 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: moments ago, in fact, that President Biden is going to 294 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: join Vice President Harris on the campaign trail for the 295 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: first time since he ended his bid last month. What 296 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: can we expect from the president now to share a 297 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: stage with his vice president for the first time since 298 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: she started her campaign now nearly three weeks ago. 299 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 9: I think it sends a really important message about democratic unity. 300 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: It'll also highlight that he has completely supported her in 301 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 9: this move. Donald Trump yesterday during the press conference, tried 302 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 9: to suggest that Joe Biden was pushed out, that Kamala 303 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 9: Harris had something to do about it, that he's very angry, 304 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 9: and by appearing on the campaign trail with Harris, Biden 305 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 9: is going to put all of those rumors to rest. 306 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: So in our last minute here, professor, what are you 307 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: expecting as we get closer to the Democratic Convention and 308 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: potentially these debates next month. 309 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 9: Well, for Donald Trump, the goal is going to be 310 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 9: to paint Kamala Harris and Tim Walls as completely out 311 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 9: of touch as radical extremists from the liberal left. He 312 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 9: tried a lot of that messaging yesterday at the press conference. 313 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 9: I think we'll see a major focus on immigration and 314 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 9: crime and what the Harris campaign has going to emphasize 315 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 9: for the next ninety days for. 316 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 8: Freedom and the future. 317 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 9: The decision is going to be very, very clear to 318 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 9: the American public. 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