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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, Everybody, This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schreeger. As

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Speaker 1: we head into the regular season finale, Week eighteen, so

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Speaker 1: many storylines, so many things going on. I'm joined here

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Speaker 1: by Aaron wan Kaufman, my great friend and producer. Aaron,

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Speaker 1: we're back here to New Year, and yet week eighteen,

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Speaker 1: your Buffalo Bills are suddenly in one of the most

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Speaker 1: precarious sit you. I don't think I've ever seen this

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Speaker 1: in an NFL playoff scenario. We're going to get into

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Speaker 1: it with our guests. But the Buffalo Bills, if they

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Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins, can be the number two seed, the

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Speaker 1: AFC East champion not only host a wildcard round, but

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Speaker 1: host Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in a divisional round.

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Speaker 1: And if they lose, there's a very good chance they

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs altogether. As you head into Week eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills a team that we have talked about all

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Speaker 1: season long because you ride and die with them, how

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Speaker 1: are you feeling headed to Miami to play an injured

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Speaker 1: ego bruised Dolphins team coming off one of the worst

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Speaker 1: losses any team has suffered this season against the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is indicative of the entire Bills season.

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Speaker 2: There have been these high highs. The Cowboys game, everyone

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Speaker 2: was like, the James Cook and this run game are

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Speaker 2: the best thing the Bills offense has had in the

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Speaker 2: past five years. And then their games where we're like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute. I mean the first play of the

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Speaker 2: Pats game this week and I'm watching it and my

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Speaker 2: dad just texts me, Oh my god, and it's like, wow,

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Speaker 2: how And we almost lost to the Chargers right after

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. I mean the fact that we've had so

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Speaker 2: many ups and downs, it is a perfect setup right

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Speaker 2: now for us to either get the second seed or

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Speaker 2: just totally miss out on the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I said this on the Good Morning Fols Show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not calling him out, but I think there's this.

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Speaker 1: If you don't watch the Bills the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: you would look at them winning all these games and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're the hot team. They're the team you don't want

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Speaker 1: to face. And Jason Garrett on Sunday Night they did

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Speaker 1: that typical trope on every pregame show, what's the wildcard team?

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see? Jason Garrett's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see the Bills. They've got their swagger back,

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Speaker 1: and like, hell no, they don't their swagger back. They

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Speaker 1: almost lost a Gift Smith and the Chargers and they

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Speaker 1: got lucky in that game. And then if the Patriots

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Speaker 1: don't throw four interceptions and miskicks and have just every

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Speaker 1: potential you know, turnover possible, they almost lost that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they seem to play up or down to

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Speaker 2: their opponent and the moment more than anyone other than

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Speaker 2: like maybe sometimes the Cowboys. But regardless of that, the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins game, I mean, the Dolphins are beat up, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, they peaked so early in the season and

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Speaker 2: they've just kept losing players on defense and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have no pass rush, it feels like and waddles out.

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Speaker 2: Let mean he'll be out until the playoffs. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be I mean, I still am terrified

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Speaker 2: terrifying the entire time. But uh, yeah, they could also

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Speaker 2: just come out and tyree Kel could have two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter and yeah, it'll be wild, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what we look forward to. That's Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this on Tuesday, January second. We're about seventy

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Speaker 1: two hours removed from one of the craziest finishes and

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Speaker 1: controversial finishes we've had, certainly this season, maybe the last few.

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Speaker 1: We've had a chance to talk to a lot of

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Speaker 1: people about it. And here's where we end up on

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Speaker 1: to know stuff beyond the headlines, beyond the hot takes,

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Speaker 1: and here's where we're at. So the play happens. Obviously

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Speaker 1: legal touching of the ball from sixty eight Taylor Decker.

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Speaker 1: You've seen the replace Taylor Decker running right up to

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Speaker 1: the official. But the official, Brad Allen, he did say

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Speaker 1: either the home team or the away team, and their

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Speaker 1: Brad Allen said seventy declared himself. I declared seventy over

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Speaker 1: the loud speaker based on that absolutely sixty eight decker.

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Speaker 1: That's a penalty. Lions fans are saying no. Sixty eight

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Speaker 1: close to the sun, you might get burned. And in

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Speaker 1: that case, the Lions sent three different offensive linemen, including

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Speaker 1: in real time. Brad Allen sitting there, he says, seventy

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Speaker 1: He said seventy. The Lions have no more timeouts remaining.

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Speaker 1: They go to the line of scrimmage. They run the play.

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Speaker 1: Now Golf is in the middle of a huddle talking

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Speaker 1: and whether he heard it or not, and whether sixty

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Speaker 1: Great Campbell decides to go forward again. Parsons off sides.

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Speaker 1: samuela Porta incomplete. They lose. Now, so what I trust

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Speaker 1: greatly had a good question to me. If there was

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Speaker 1: Because I have never seen on a play chart a

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Speaker 1: or maybe we'll get him on after the season. Was

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Speaker 1: it because they had already clinched and they didn't want

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Speaker 1: where the Lions is what we do. We just go

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Speaker 1: for it. We're gonna, you know, break your neck in

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Speaker 1: and there. That might have been hubris. That might have

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Speaker 1: been just arrogance. That might have been just you know.

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Speaker 1: I someone compared it to the golfer on tin Cup,

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Speaker 1: but I said it was like a poker player, like

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Speaker 1: great meme that went around with with you know, two

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Speaker 1: at it. The look. The league stands behind their official.

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Speaker 1: Brad Allen's been doing it ten years. He hasn't spoken

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Speaker 1: on it since the Pool report. He said that seventy declared,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the official audio. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: sixty eight was going to be there. On the Lion's

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Speaker 1: they ran that play to perfection and they did the

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Speaker 1: three guys running to the ref because that deception is

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Speaker 1: then they're covering sixty eight. But if they say three guys,

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Speaker 1: You want to start playing like that and having four

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's the one who declared the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: it was really really interesting how Dan Campbell would respond Monday,

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Speaker 1: two days afterwards, and here is his quote from his

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I woke up yesterday. I'm ready, man, I've

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Speaker 3: got controlled fury and I'm ready to go. I am

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely ready to go. I don't go the other

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Speaker 3: way so and the team won't either. We're on a

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Speaker 3: mission and we're not going to We're I can feel

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Speaker 3: make that one extra play that we didn't, and so

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Speaker 3: we will use this as fuel. I got pure octane

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Speaker 3: right now. I woke up. I'm ready. So we're moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Pure octane right now. Oh man, that's a good quote.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how they respond. They play the

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Speaker 1: Vikings this weekend. It's it's not inconsequential because there's a

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Speaker 1: I believe Detroit is locked into number three. They'll either

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Speaker 1: if the Ram losing the Packers win, because the Packers

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Speaker 1: from the Today Show host it might have been Chanelle Jones.

426
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Speaker 1: She said, like, if you check Steve's Instagram, it's lakes,

427
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Speaker 1: oceans and mountains. You're not posting memes.

428
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Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's my respite from you know, it's

429
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Speaker 4: things that call me, things that give me a sense

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Speaker 4: of peace.

431
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Speaker 1: Perfect speaking of things that calm and give peace. Let's

432
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Speaker 1: talk playoffs scenarios when people are on the edge of

433
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Speaker 1: their sea right now, I hope we can dive right

434
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Speaker 1: in here as we have it. We've got our seven

435
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Speaker 1: teams on the AFC, You're seven teams on the NFC,

436
00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:51,386
Speaker 1: and there's not as much fluidity with the playoff pictures

437
00:21:51,386 --> 00:21:53,386
Speaker 1: as recent years. I feel like I feel like with

438
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Speaker 1: our one seeds locked up, we kind of have some

439
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Speaker 1: stability there, and in most cases the three seeds, I

440
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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs and Lions are pretty much locked up,

441
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Speaker 1: and then from there the five seeds look pretty stabled.

442
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Speaker 1: We know the Browns sure of the five seed, the

443
00:22:07,746 --> 00:22:11,346
Speaker 1: Buccaneers if they beat the Carolina Panthers, they're the five seed.

444
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Speaker 1: But there is some ways to teams can wiggle in.

445
00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:15,946
Speaker 1: There's some teams that teams can fall out. I think

446
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Speaker 1: the most interesting scenario, if we can get right into it,

447
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Speaker 1: can you take us through the Buffalo Bills scenario and

448
00:22:23,626 --> 00:22:26,146
Speaker 1: what is that stake on Sunday night and what could

449
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Speaker 1: happen on Saturday and Sunday that can lead that game

450
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Speaker 1: to having even greater stakes than just winning the AFC

451
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Speaker 1: East time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally right there. That is the I think that's

453
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Speaker 4: the most interesting and the most dramatic, because look, you know,

454
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Speaker 4: a month ago, obviously Buffalo was buried, not just the

455
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Speaker 4: AFC race, but I mean it looked like they were

456
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Speaker 4: I think in the ten spot.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're in the eleventh spot, fourteen chance, I

458
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Speaker 1: think around things.

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Speaker 4: Remember, So it's interesting you look at it. The same

460
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Speaker 4: week you had Buffalo pull out the win against Kansas City,

461
00:22:55,706 --> 00:22:58,106
Speaker 4: you had the controversial penalty, They get the win, and

462
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Speaker 4: they've done nothing but win since. Then that same week,

463
00:23:00,786 --> 00:23:03,826
Speaker 4: Miami on Monday night blows the fourteen point lead against

464
00:23:03,826 --> 00:23:06,106
Speaker 4: Tennessee with three minutes left. I think that was what

465
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Speaker 4: the first time in forty five years or something that

466
00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:11,786
Speaker 4: it happens. So that happens the same week, and all

467
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you watch the odds, you track them

468
00:23:13,586 --> 00:23:16,386
Speaker 4: week by week, the probabilities for that division they've collided

469
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Speaker 4: at essentially fifty to fifty. Now they were they were

470
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Speaker 4: like ninety five to five with three minutes to go

471
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Speaker 4: in that Miami game. And so the scenario for Buffalo is, look,

472
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Speaker 4: they had to win earlier against Miami. See win this game,

473
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Speaker 4: both teams will be eleven and six. Buffalo gets the tiebreaker.

474
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Speaker 4: Buffalo gets the division. That's gonna mean the two seed.

475
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Speaker 4: That's gonna mean you know, at least if you keep

476
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Speaker 4: winning at least two home playoff games. You know, Buffalo's

477
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Speaker 4: really you know, come from nowhere to being you know,

478
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Speaker 4: in a great spot heading into the playoffs. Now, if

479
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Speaker 4: Buffalo loses, they definitely could fall into the wild card,

480
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Speaker 4: but they're gonna need help to stay in that wildcard mix.

481
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Speaker 4: So what Buffalo would then need is either Tennessee would

482
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Speaker 4: have to knock off Jacksonville or they would need boll likely, yeah,

483
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Speaker 4: you would say, unlike. I mean, we've seen some you know,

484
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Speaker 4: some cheered Week eighteen outcomes before the other one is

485
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Speaker 4: you know, they would need to Baltimore to beat to

486
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Speaker 4: beat Pittsburgh, which, okay, on paper is certainly say is likely.

487
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Speaker 4: But then there's the question of who's playing, who's motivated more,

488
00:24:18,866 --> 00:24:23,426
Speaker 4: and all of that. So Buffalo's you know, it's a

489
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Speaker 4: tailor two cities.

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Speaker 1: That's all that happened, That's all the needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: So the Jaguars, playing for everything, have to beat a

492
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Speaker 1: Titans team playing for nothing, and the Steelers playing for

493
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Speaker 1: everything have to play have to beat a Baltimore team

494
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Speaker 1: that is gonna have probably eight ter nine. Starter is

495
00:24:36,666 --> 00:24:39,466
Speaker 1: not even dressed. So if those two things happen, it's

496
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Speaker 1: win and a two seed lose, an out of the

497
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Speaker 1: playoffs for Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fascinating, that's what I say. It's the crazy. Now

499
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Speaker 4: Miami obviously is locked up. Now they wouldn't get They

500
00:24:51,426 --> 00:24:53,986
Speaker 4: would fall if they lost, they would fall, not to

501
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:55,626
Speaker 4: the five to the six. You say five is locked

502
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Speaker 4: up for Cleveland, so six would be Miami, and three,

503
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Speaker 4: as you say, is locked up in the AFC for

504
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Speaker 4: Kansas City, So Miami. It's not quite as dramatic, but

505
00:25:04,746 --> 00:25:07,146
Speaker 4: it's two seed home game at LEAs one home game.

506
00:25:07,386 --> 00:25:10,146
Speaker 4: These two home games if you keep winning, or trip

507
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Speaker 4: to Arrowhead playing Mahomes on the road in the first round.

508
00:25:13,306 --> 00:25:15,626
Speaker 4: So you know, it's not quite a stark, but it's

509
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Speaker 4: stark either way.

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Speaker 1: The next team I want to talk about is the

511
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, because they lost that terrible game Sunday with

512
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Speaker 1: a lot on the line, they go tumbling in the standings,

513
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Speaker 1: and yet I wake up this morning and I see

514
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Speaker 1: there is still a path for the Vikings to get in,

515
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Speaker 1: especially if the Chicago Bears continue to play like they've

516
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Speaker 1: been playing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna look here, we partner with PFF Pro

518
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Speaker 4: Football Focus and seeing what their current odds are for

519
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Speaker 4: Minnesota to actually get in. They have met three percent

520
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Speaker 4: right now, one point three. It's three. They are of

521
00:25:50,146 --> 00:25:53,706
Speaker 4: all the teams that are still alive in some way

522
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Speaker 4: for the playoffs, Minnesota is the longest shot of any

523
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Speaker 4: team currently alive. So yeah, beat Detroit now. First of all,

524
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Speaker 4: the way Minnesota is playing, you got your doubts. Detroit's

525
00:26:05,026 --> 00:26:07,306
Speaker 4: probably going to be angry. I'm not sure there are

526
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Speaker 4: motivation level in terms of seating, but I'm thinking they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be a little angry company Campbell.

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Speaker 1: He used the quote controlled Ferris. That's how they feel, right,

529
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Speaker 1: that's a.

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Speaker 4: Good face, controlled fury. H. Then you're gonna need green

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Speaker 4: Bay to lose to Chicago. Like you say, Chicago's playing

532
00:26:24,866 --> 00:26:27,826
Speaker 4: real well right now, but green Bay, you know, must

533
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Speaker 4: win game and look good. Certainly on Sunday. You're gonna

534
00:26:30,946 --> 00:26:35,426
Speaker 4: need Seattle to lose to Arizona. And I think that's

535
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Speaker 4: where it starts to really Now, look, Arizona's pulled off

536
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Speaker 4: a big way and Seattle's a Seattle can be a

537
00:26:41,106 --> 00:26:43,546
Speaker 4: weird team. So you would need that, and then you

538
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Speaker 4: would also need Tampa Bay or New Orleans to lose.

539
00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:50,626
Speaker 4: Tampa play in Carolina, and then New Orleans has that

540
00:26:50,666 --> 00:26:53,546
Speaker 4: game against Atlanta, so one of those two would have

541
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Speaker 4: to lose. If all of that happens, then Minnesota could

542
00:26:57,026 --> 00:26:59,226
Speaker 4: still get in with that last wildcard spot.

543
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Speaker 1: Okay, how about Seattle? Do you have that handy? What

544
00:27:01,946 --> 00:27:03,906
Speaker 1: does the Seahawks need to get back into it? A

545
00:27:03,906 --> 00:27:06,146
Speaker 1: heartbreaking loss to the Steelers on.

546
00:27:06,546 --> 00:27:09,546
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so it's basically they need now they

547
00:27:09,626 --> 00:27:12,026
Speaker 4: need green Bay to turn around and lose. They need

548
00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,466
Speaker 4: to win obviously, and then they need green Bay to

549
00:27:14,506 --> 00:27:17,386
Speaker 4: turn around and lose and they can get into that,

550
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,666
Speaker 4: you know, into that seventh spot. So they're cheering.

551
00:27:21,706 --> 00:27:23,946
Speaker 1: And last year green Bay on your network on NBC,

552
00:27:24,106 --> 00:27:26,866
Speaker 1: green Bay had everything to play for a playoff spot

553
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Speaker 1: and the Lions were already eliminated because the Seahawks had

554
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Speaker 1: beaten the Rams. And what do you know, Jared Goff,

555
00:27:34,946 --> 00:27:37,706
Speaker 1: the Lions they come into Lambo. Can justin fields do

556
00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:40,706
Speaker 1: that and now give Seattle hope because I would think

557
00:27:40,706 --> 00:27:43,706
Speaker 1: Seattle beats Arizona and if they're winning, they're they're watching

558
00:27:43,746 --> 00:27:47,466
Speaker 1: that clock closely. Can that's not that crazy, I thought.

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00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:49,426
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just yes, we saw it. We

560
00:27:49,466 --> 00:27:53,626
Speaker 4: saw it, uh last year and you know, I don't know,

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00:27:53,786 --> 00:27:57,226
Speaker 4: between the Philadelphia and Tennessee games, you know, you see

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Speaker 4: uh uh Seattle put themselves in the same spot. They

563
00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:03,226
Speaker 4: needed the last minute long drive they got into two

564
00:28:03,226 --> 00:28:05,586
Speaker 4: straight games to get back into playoff mix. Maybe two

565
00:28:05,586 --> 00:28:08,706
Speaker 4: straight years they could get the kind of unexpected assist

566
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Speaker 4: from the team, you know, out of the playoff picture.

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00:28:11,466 --> 00:28:13,346
Speaker 1: All right, do you want to go through the AFC

568
00:28:13,426 --> 00:28:16,226
Speaker 1: South situation a little bit because it is a little complicated.

569
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Speaker 1: We know there's a winning in game on Saturday night

570
00:28:19,466 --> 00:28:21,586
Speaker 1: between the Colts and the Texans, but it's not for

571
00:28:21,666 --> 00:28:24,826
Speaker 1: the division. It could be for the division. Explain it.

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00:28:24,906 --> 00:28:28,026
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because in some ways right now, it's

573
00:28:28,026 --> 00:28:30,866
Speaker 4: the three way tie there at the in the AFC South,

574
00:28:31,546 --> 00:28:34,346
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville has all the tie breakers over both Indie

575
00:28:34,426 --> 00:28:37,946
Speaker 4: and Houston. But the winner of that Indie Houston game

576
00:28:38,306 --> 00:28:40,346
Speaker 4: is going to come into Sunday in better shape than

577
00:28:40,466 --> 00:28:42,706
Speaker 4: than the Jacks at ten and seven, either one of them.

578
00:28:42,746 --> 00:28:44,986
Speaker 4: All they have to do is get to ten and

579
00:28:45,026 --> 00:28:48,066
Speaker 4: seven and they clinch a playoff berth whether it's a

580
00:28:48,066 --> 00:28:50,666
Speaker 4: wild card or the division title is then going to

581
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Speaker 4: be settled Sunday in the Jacksonville Tennessee game. If Jacksonville

582
00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:57,546
Speaker 4: drops that game to Tennessee, then the winner of Indie

583
00:28:57,626 --> 00:29:01,706
Speaker 4: Houston wins the division gets the four seat because they'll

584
00:29:01,706 --> 00:29:04,266
Speaker 4: have leaped. You know, Jacksonville be nine to eight and

585
00:29:04,306 --> 00:29:09,306
Speaker 4: then you know ten and seven will get them in. So, uh,

586
00:29:10,026 --> 00:29:12,226
Speaker 4: the scenario there obviously be those teams just you want

587
00:29:12,226 --> 00:29:14,066
Speaker 4: to win and you would hope Jacksonville loses. But even

588
00:29:14,106 --> 00:29:17,386
Speaker 4: if Jacksonville doesn't lose, you are in the playoffs. Now Jacksonville,

589
00:29:17,986 --> 00:29:20,946
Speaker 4: if they lose, they could they could fall down. They're

590
00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,266
Speaker 4: nine to eight and they could fall into that wild

591
00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:28,186
Speaker 4: card pool and they would need uh, two things to happen.

592
00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:31,626
Speaker 4: They need Baltimore to beat Pittsburg because Pittsburgh's hanging around

593
00:29:31,666 --> 00:29:34,266
Speaker 4: that wild card race. And then they would this was weird,

594
00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:39,186
Speaker 4: but they would need Vegas to beat Denver, two teams

595
00:29:39,226 --> 00:29:43,546
Speaker 4: that are out of the playoff picture right now interconference records. Well, yeah,

596
00:29:43,546 --> 00:29:46,146
Speaker 4: what would happen is if Denver were to win, you

597
00:29:46,186 --> 00:29:47,946
Speaker 4: know he gets nine and eight. Denver's not making the

598
00:29:47,946 --> 00:29:51,266
Speaker 4: playoffs no matter what. But Denver would enter into it

599
00:29:51,386 --> 00:29:55,466
Speaker 4: nine and eight, a very complex tiebreaker. We already know

600
00:29:55,586 --> 00:29:57,946
Speaker 4: Denver would lose the tiebreaker.

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00:29:57,626 --> 00:29:59,546
Speaker 1: But they'd all be nine and eight, so they're still in.

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00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:04,306
Speaker 4: The time presence in the tiebreaker would screw it up

603
00:30:04,306 --> 00:30:07,786
Speaker 4: for Jacksonville. So so it Yeah, so Jacksonville is gonna

604
00:30:07,786 --> 00:30:10,186
Speaker 4: be cheering for if they can't get it done against Tennessee,

605
00:30:10,186 --> 00:30:12,986
Speaker 4: which is obviously the easiest path. They're cheering for the Raiders,

606
00:30:12,986 --> 00:30:14,866
Speaker 4: and they're cheering for the Ravens. They're gonna need both

607
00:30:14,866 --> 00:30:15,546
Speaker 4: of those to happen.

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Speaker 1: Not to put you on the spot here, but if

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Speaker 1: the Colts or Texans lose on Saturday night, are they

610
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Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated or can they still somehow find a wild

611
00:30:27,106 --> 00:30:30,906
Speaker 1: card spot? If Jacksonville gets what they need to be,

612
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Speaker 1: it doesn't get what they need. This is in the week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let's just is there. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Winner in I'm pulling out. I think this is a

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Speaker 4: I'm going through like one hundred pages right here, but

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Speaker 4: I got I got a fun love for you here. Yeah. Basically, uh,

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Speaker 4: there is the ogive the odds. So again, this is

619
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Speaker 4: from our friends at pff. This might be a good

620
00:30:52,146 --> 00:30:55,306
Speaker 4: way of looking at it. The best path the playoffs,

621
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Speaker 4: obviously for Indy and Houston is to get that division win,

622
00:30:59,186 --> 00:31:01,666
Speaker 4: but they each have and give them to you here, Houston.

623
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Speaker 4: Right now, the odds are getting a wild card. They

624
00:31:04,786 --> 00:31:07,226
Speaker 4: have a twelve percent shot at picking up the six seed.

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00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:09,746
Speaker 4: They have a fourteen percent shot of picking up the

626
00:31:09,786 --> 00:31:13,106
Speaker 4: seven seed. Indianapolis a thirteen percent shot at the sixth seed,

627
00:31:13,586 --> 00:31:15,586
Speaker 4: and a fourteen and a half percent shot at the

628
00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:19,026
Speaker 4: seventh seed. So you know, they do they do essentially

629
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Speaker 4: if you add those two together, the division and the

630
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:24,906
Speaker 4: wild card possibility, they're each floating around fifty to fifty

631
00:31:24,986 --> 00:31:27,666
Speaker 4: to make the to get in the playoffs here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so it's not so crazy, all right, Pittsburgh Steelers.

633
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:35,426
Speaker 1: It's kind of a simpler path. They're gonna need a

634
00:31:35,426 --> 00:31:37,066
Speaker 1: little help. But how do they get in as they're

635
00:31:37,066 --> 00:31:38,306
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in right now?

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00:31:38,386 --> 00:31:43,306
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Pittsburgh and call this one up two here. Look,

637
00:31:43,346 --> 00:31:47,066
Speaker 4: we talked about the scenario with the Ravens, the question

638
00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:49,186
Speaker 4: of motivation. You just got to you gotta get that

639
00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:53,986
Speaker 4: win to get you to ten and seven. You then

640
00:31:54,106 --> 00:31:58,306
Speaker 4: need Buffalo to lose. So that's because they would get

641
00:31:58,346 --> 00:32:01,066
Speaker 4: that tie breaker. So then they're in, Yeah, get get

642
00:32:01,066 --> 00:32:02,866
Speaker 4: a loss there, you know your ten and said, well

643
00:32:02,906 --> 00:32:05,706
Speaker 4: you need Buffalo to lose or the other place they

644
00:32:05,706 --> 00:32:09,986
Speaker 4: could get into trouble here. Uh that's with a loss. Yeah,

645
00:32:10,026 --> 00:32:11,466
Speaker 4: with a win at ten, I think it's a win

646
00:32:11,506 --> 00:32:15,026
Speaker 4: at ten and seven, Yes, because then Buffalo falls and

647
00:32:15,106 --> 00:32:17,626
Speaker 4: you get that winter and you're you know.

648
00:32:19,706 --> 00:32:23,466
Speaker 1: The longest shot is the Vikings. What's the fun the

649
00:32:23,466 --> 00:32:25,866
Speaker 1: most fun and complicated scenario you've got there that you've

650
00:32:25,906 --> 00:32:28,386
Speaker 1: had to go through or that maybe you could present through.

651
00:32:28,466 --> 00:32:30,226
Speaker 4: I think, well, I think it is the Vikings because

652
00:32:30,226 --> 00:32:32,386
Speaker 4: there we have three percent. I mean, just looking at

653
00:32:32,386 --> 00:32:34,386
Speaker 4: the odds we give to every team here, there's nobody

654
00:32:34,466 --> 00:32:37,186
Speaker 4: else who's in the mix, who's who's less than about

655
00:32:37,226 --> 00:32:40,426
Speaker 4: a quarter. I think the uh, the NFC South is

656
00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:42,866
Speaker 4: interesting just because you know, Tampa had the chance. Yeah,

657
00:32:42,906 --> 00:32:45,546
Speaker 4: Tampa had the chance to lock it up. And now

658
00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:48,586
Speaker 4: you've got eight Nate Tampa, eight Nate New Orleans seven

659
00:32:48,626 --> 00:32:52,186
Speaker 4: to nine Falcons, and the Falcons playing the Saints you

660
00:32:52,226 --> 00:32:55,826
Speaker 4: know in week eighteen. So Tampa, look again, this is

661
00:32:55,866 --> 00:32:58,866
Speaker 4: one of those on paper, they're playing Carolina. Just beat

662
00:32:58,866 --> 00:33:03,906
Speaker 4: Carolina win the division. But if they slipped up, then

663
00:33:04,226 --> 00:33:06,946
Speaker 4: New Orleans, uh, well, then the winner that New Orleans

664
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:09,426
Speaker 4: Atlanta game gets the division. Obviously New Orleans would get it.

665
00:33:09,426 --> 00:33:10,946
Speaker 4: If they were they'd be nine and eight. They'd be

666
00:33:10,946 --> 00:33:12,386
Speaker 4: the only nine win team in the division.

667
00:33:12,426 --> 00:33:14,106
Speaker 1: How would Atlanta get it? They would sweep No.

668
00:33:14,226 --> 00:33:17,346
Speaker 4: Orleanta. Then Atlanta would be eight and nine. New Orleans

669
00:33:17,346 --> 00:33:19,026
Speaker 4: would be eight and nine with that loss, and Tampa

670
00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,866
Speaker 4: would be eight and nine. And if they all finish

671
00:33:20,946 --> 00:33:22,826
Speaker 4: at eight and nine, Atlanta is actually going to win

672
00:33:22,986 --> 00:33:25,946
Speaker 4: that tiebreaker on the division record, right, I see, I

673
00:33:25,946 --> 00:33:27,666
Speaker 4: think it's the No, it's not the division record, it's

674
00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:31,186
Speaker 4: the combined record of three teams when they've played each other.

675
00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:33,786
Speaker 4: So Atlanta at eight and nine would get that. And

676
00:33:33,866 --> 00:33:36,786
Speaker 4: the other kind of interesting, you know, kind of long

677
00:33:36,786 --> 00:33:39,706
Speaker 4: shot scenario there is New Orleans. If Tampa wins in

678
00:33:39,826 --> 00:33:42,466
Speaker 4: New Orleans beats Atlanta, New Orleans at nine and eight,

679
00:33:43,386 --> 00:33:45,906
Speaker 4: they'd like they're like third in the pecking order. But

680
00:33:46,026 --> 00:33:48,146
Speaker 4: could they move into the wild cards? Could they get

681
00:33:48,146 --> 00:33:51,386
Speaker 4: a Green Bay loss? Could they get a Seattle loss?

682
00:33:51,826 --> 00:33:54,266
Speaker 4: And at nine to eight, could New Orleans suddenly be

683
00:33:54,306 --> 00:33:57,306
Speaker 4: alive to make it not as the division champ, but

684
00:33:57,346 --> 00:33:59,266
Speaker 4: to make it as a wildcard. And could that NFC

685
00:33:59,346 --> 00:34:01,906
Speaker 4: South that we've kind of penciled in all years a

686
00:34:01,946 --> 00:34:04,426
Speaker 4: one bid division, could they produce two teams?

687
00:34:04,706 --> 00:34:08,106
Speaker 1: So you're basically saying the Vikings need three things to happen.

688
00:34:08,426 --> 00:34:10,826
Speaker 1: The Saints need two. Like whatever it is, the Saints

689
00:34:10,866 --> 00:34:12,866
Speaker 1: need one less thing. The Saints are above the Vikings

690
00:34:12,906 --> 00:34:14,986
Speaker 1: as long as they win and they get the same thing.

691
00:34:15,026 --> 00:34:16,906
Speaker 4: The Peggy order is basically green Bay right now, it's

692
00:34:16,906 --> 00:34:18,986
Speaker 4: green Bays to lose. If green Bay loses it, it's

693
00:34:19,026 --> 00:34:21,306
Speaker 4: Seattle's to lose. If Seattle loses it, in New Orleans

694
00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:24,106
Speaker 4: enters the picture. If they lose it, then you're looking

695
00:34:24,146 --> 00:34:27,266
Speaker 4: at maybe it could default to the Vikings.

696
00:34:28,026 --> 00:34:29,946
Speaker 1: And if you're a Falcons fan, all you need to

697
00:34:29,986 --> 00:34:32,666
Speaker 1: do is worry about winning and somehow Carolina pulling the

698
00:34:32,706 --> 00:34:35,106
Speaker 1: upset and then you're in the playoffs as a division.

699
00:34:34,826 --> 00:34:40,466
Speaker 4: Cam you get a home game. It's a home playoffs nine. Yeah.

700
00:34:40,506 --> 00:34:44,026
Speaker 1: Great, all right, So that's one side of football fandom,

701
00:34:44,026 --> 00:34:47,386
Speaker 1: and everyone's doing that. There's another side watching the draft order.

702
00:34:47,546 --> 00:34:50,466
Speaker 1: This isn't your This isn't your expertise. Usually they don't

703
00:34:50,466 --> 00:34:52,466
Speaker 1: bring you on NBC to talk draft order, but it

704
00:34:52,506 --> 00:34:56,506
Speaker 1: got really interesting this year because of the quarterbacks that

705
00:34:56,546 --> 00:34:59,226
Speaker 1: are involved. And if you know how the last few

706
00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:02,226
Speaker 1: seasons have ended on Week eighteen, the draft order has

707
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:05,946
Speaker 1: shuffled tenfold based on crazy results and what we think

708
00:35:05,986 --> 00:35:08,666
Speaker 1: are meaning last Week eighteen games. But then it kind

709
00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:10,546
Speaker 1: of shapes the future of the NFL base on where

710
00:35:10,586 --> 00:35:15,386
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks go. Let's look at this draft order right now,

711
00:35:15,426 --> 00:35:18,386
Speaker 1: as number one is locked up with the Carolina Panthers,

712
00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:21,666
Speaker 1: Number two is the Washington Commanders. That you would think

713
00:35:21,706 --> 00:35:23,826
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys having to win this game and win

714
00:35:23,866 --> 00:35:26,506
Speaker 1: the NFC East and the Commanders having nothing to play

715
00:35:26,506 --> 00:35:31,266
Speaker 1: for except pride, that the Cowboys would win. However, if

716
00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:38,066
Speaker 1: the Commanders lose, that set if the Commanders win, Let's

717
00:35:38,106 --> 00:35:40,906
Speaker 1: go through the motions here and see. If the Commanders

718
00:35:40,986 --> 00:35:43,826
Speaker 1: win and they do not have the number two pick,

719
00:35:44,186 --> 00:35:46,106
Speaker 1: who can get the number two pick because it's either

720
00:35:46,146 --> 00:35:48,466
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams or Drake May and those guys are going

721
00:35:48,506 --> 00:35:50,426
Speaker 1: to be outstanding NFL quarterbacks.

722
00:35:50,546 --> 00:35:53,266
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is fun. I got I got my

723
00:35:53,306 --> 00:35:55,706
Speaker 4: spreadsheet up right now, you got it? Currently for the

724
00:35:55,746 --> 00:35:58,506
Speaker 4: two spot you got a three way ties, you say Washington,

725
00:35:58,866 --> 00:36:01,946
Speaker 4: who right now controls that tie breaker? Can we explain

726
00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:04,466
Speaker 4: what the different like this is the weird time so

727
00:36:04,866 --> 00:36:07,506
Speaker 4: they not head to head, could end up being head

728
00:36:07,506 --> 00:36:10,146
Speaker 4: to head, but it starts out at strength of schedule.

729
00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:12,986
Speaker 4: It's just the number one time breaker is what's the

730
00:36:13,026 --> 00:36:16,546
Speaker 4: record of your opponents? And the worse the record of

731
00:36:16,546 --> 00:36:18,826
Speaker 4: your combined record of all the opponents you've played this

732
00:36:18,906 --> 00:36:22,186
Speaker 4: year is the better you get draft position, So you want.

733
00:36:22,506 --> 00:36:25,386
Speaker 1: That seems backwards, yes, but that is how it goes.

734
00:36:25,426 --> 00:36:30,546
Speaker 4: So if you look right now the Washington, it's basically

735
00:36:30,546 --> 00:36:33,306
Speaker 4: it's by one game. If you add up the wins

736
00:36:33,306 --> 00:36:36,066
Speaker 4: and losses of all of the Commander's opponents this year,

737
00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,706
Speaker 4: the Commander's opponents are one hundred and forty and one

738
00:36:38,826 --> 00:36:41,866
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty two, and they're four and twelve right now.

739
00:36:42,226 --> 00:36:44,386
Speaker 4: The Pats are four and twelve right now, and the

740
00:36:44,426 --> 00:36:46,546
Speaker 4: combined record of all their opponents this year is one

741
00:36:46,626 --> 00:36:49,346
Speaker 4: hundred and forty one and one hundred and thirty one,

742
00:36:50,146 --> 00:36:53,346
Speaker 4: So this is a now and then also the Cardinals

743
00:36:53,426 --> 00:36:56,186
Speaker 4: are tied at four and twelve, but there it's there.

744
00:36:56,586 --> 00:36:59,826
Speaker 4: What's the number here? They have a much stronger They're

745
00:36:59,826 --> 00:37:02,026
Speaker 4: now opponents are much better than say, yeah, any tie

746
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:04,826
Speaker 4: with the with the The only way the Cardinals get

747
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:07,626
Speaker 4: the top pick here is if they lose next week

748
00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:09,946
Speaker 4: and both Washington and New England win, they have to

749
00:37:09,946 --> 00:37:12,346
Speaker 4: be alone four and thirteen because they're not winning any

750
00:37:12,386 --> 00:37:15,346
Speaker 4: type of Their schedule is too strong. It's a weird.

751
00:37:15,386 --> 00:37:17,866
Speaker 4: It's a weird. But that Washington New Eeland one is

752
00:37:17,906 --> 00:37:21,066
Speaker 4: interesting because the one game between them, so you look

753
00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:23,626
Speaker 4: at now, is New England going to lose to the Jets?

754
00:37:23,666 --> 00:37:25,906
Speaker 4: If it's Belichick's you know, final game in New England.

755
00:37:25,906 --> 00:37:28,506
Speaker 4: You know his history, that is he gonna really want

756
00:37:28,506 --> 00:37:30,826
Speaker 4: to you know. Okay, but let's say they do. Let's

757
00:37:30,866 --> 00:37:33,466
Speaker 4: say that That's lose it. Let's say Washington loses it.

758
00:37:33,666 --> 00:37:35,946
Speaker 4: So you got two at four and thirteen. How is

759
00:37:35,986 --> 00:37:37,746
Speaker 4: that common? How is that?

760
00:37:39,106 --> 00:37:39,226
Speaker 3: Uh?

761
00:37:39,626 --> 00:37:42,826
Speaker 4: A straight? The schedule going to change? The big swing

762
00:37:42,946 --> 00:37:45,066
Speaker 4: game to watch. There's a couple that come in, but

763
00:37:45,106 --> 00:37:47,386
Speaker 4: the biggest one to keep an eye on by far

764
00:37:47,586 --> 00:37:52,626
Speaker 4: is Atlanta New Orleans. Okay, love, New England played New

765
00:37:52,706 --> 00:37:57,866
Speaker 4: Orleans this year, right, and Washington played game and Washington

766
00:37:57,946 --> 00:38:03,146
Speaker 4: played Atlanta. So it's it's a key swing. If New

767
00:38:03,266 --> 00:38:07,586
Speaker 4: Orleans wins the game, the Patriots, in their strength of schedule,

768
00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:10,626
Speaker 4: get what they don't want. They get another win for

769
00:38:10,666 --> 00:38:14,546
Speaker 4: their opponents, and meanwhile, for Washington, they get another loss

770
00:38:14,546 --> 00:38:17,786
Speaker 4: for their opponents, because that's that's Atlanta losing. So the

771
00:38:17,826 --> 00:38:21,186
Speaker 4: Pats really want if they're playing the draft game, the

772
00:38:21,226 --> 00:38:26,026
Speaker 4: Pats really want Atlanta to beat New Orleans, and Washington

773
00:38:26,066 --> 00:38:29,026
Speaker 4: really wants New Orleans to beat Atlanta. They want the

774
00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:32,586
Speaker 4: team they played to take another loss. And the interesting

775
00:38:32,626 --> 00:38:34,226
Speaker 4: thing is, there's a couple others that play out, but

776
00:38:34,306 --> 00:38:36,066
Speaker 4: let's just stay with that one because if that, if

777
00:38:36,066 --> 00:38:39,186
Speaker 4: the Pats get what they want there, and let's say

778
00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:41,066
Speaker 4: everything else kind of works out evenly it wouldn't have to,

779
00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:42,946
Speaker 4: but let's just say it does, and that would mean

780
00:38:42,986 --> 00:38:45,706
Speaker 4: that Pats would move into a tie in strength of

781
00:38:45,746 --> 00:38:49,426
Speaker 4: schedule with Washington. And if it ended up tied strength

782
00:38:49,466 --> 00:38:52,346
Speaker 4: to schedule, that is, pardon me, is when head to

783
00:38:52,386 --> 00:38:54,866
Speaker 4: head comes in. And this is the opposite of every

784
00:38:54,906 --> 00:38:56,866
Speaker 4: head to head you've ever wanted, because this is where

785
00:38:57,146 --> 00:38:59,506
Speaker 4: the loser of the head to head doesn't get to

786
00:38:59,506 --> 00:39:01,906
Speaker 4: pick the loser of the head to it doesn't get

787
00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:05,466
Speaker 4: to the loser gets to pick. The winner doesn't. So

788
00:39:05,626 --> 00:39:09,946
Speaker 4: Pats played Washinghington, Pat's lost to Washington, and it comes

789
00:39:09,946 --> 00:39:13,586
Speaker 4: back to bite Washington because it gives the Pats the

790
00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:14,666
Speaker 4: number two seats.

791
00:39:15,106 --> 00:39:17,026
Speaker 1: So there's a real shot that the Patriots get the

792
00:39:17,106 --> 00:39:20,306
Speaker 1: number two overall pick. Even if Washington loses and New

793
00:39:20,306 --> 00:39:21,466
Speaker 1: England loses.

794
00:39:21,546 --> 00:39:25,466
Speaker 4: Well, that that it's not automatic with that, Atlanta, New Orleans,

795
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:28,026
Speaker 4: A couple others come into play, but that's a huge

796
00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:31,866
Speaker 4: one if that happens. If New Orleans loses, excuse me,

797
00:39:31,906 --> 00:39:35,386
Speaker 4: beats Atlanta and both the Patriots and Washington a four

798
00:39:35,386 --> 00:39:38,066
Speaker 4: and thirteen at that point, there's a real chance, and

799
00:39:38,186 --> 00:39:40,666
Speaker 4: I mean some of the other games to keep an

800
00:39:40,666 --> 00:39:42,986
Speaker 4: eye on. Let me say I wrote him down here.

801
00:39:44,026 --> 00:39:45,746
Speaker 4: I mean, for instance, they could affect this because a

802
00:39:45,746 --> 00:39:47,306
Speaker 4: lot of it there's a lot of common games between

803
00:39:47,346 --> 00:39:49,786
Speaker 4: these teams. There's not many that really matter on the schedule.

804
00:39:49,866 --> 00:39:54,026
Speaker 4: But like Denver in Las Vegas, right, Okay, So Washington's

805
00:39:54,026 --> 00:39:57,386
Speaker 4: played Denver and played Vegas. Pats have played in both.

806
00:39:57,826 --> 00:40:02,306
Speaker 4: So Patriots would want Denver to beat Las Vegas because

807
00:40:02,306 --> 00:40:05,826
Speaker 4: that'd be another win in Washington's column instead of a loss.

808
00:40:05,866 --> 00:40:08,626
Speaker 4: So that's an important one. Another important one in Chicago

809
00:40:09,146 --> 00:40:12,786
Speaker 4: Green Bay because Washington's played Chicago. New England hasn't played

810
00:40:12,826 --> 00:40:16,106
Speaker 4: either one of them. But you know, obviously Washington is

811
00:40:16,106 --> 00:40:18,346
Speaker 4: a Green Bay fan because that would get them and

812
00:40:18,466 --> 00:40:21,626
Speaker 4: a loss in their column. Indy Houston is an important one.

813
00:40:21,666 --> 00:40:25,186
Speaker 4: Pat's played the Colts, so Pats are cheering for Houston again.

814
00:40:25,266 --> 00:40:27,346
Speaker 4: They're doing the draft thing. Pats are chanting for Houston

815
00:40:27,346 --> 00:40:29,546
Speaker 4: to beat the Colts because that could give them another

816
00:40:29,626 --> 00:40:34,826
Speaker 4: loss in the lost column. And I think I had

817
00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:38,186
Speaker 4: one more here, Oh, Baltimore Pittsburgh. Yeah, so the Pats

818
00:40:38,226 --> 00:40:41,106
Speaker 4: having played Pittsburgh, Pats are cheering for Baltimore to knock

819
00:40:41,146 --> 00:40:41,826
Speaker 4: out Pittsburgh.

820
00:40:41,866 --> 00:40:41,986
Speaker 1: Right.

821
00:40:41,986 --> 00:40:45,826
Speaker 4: So there's there's basically five games that have some that

822
00:40:45,866 --> 00:40:50,466
Speaker 4: could affect the strength to schedule between Washington and New England.

823
00:40:50,506 --> 00:40:53,546
Speaker 4: There's only one that involves a team that both teams

824
00:40:53,546 --> 00:40:56,026
Speaker 4: have played this year. That's at Lanta, New Orleans.

825
00:40:56,066 --> 00:40:58,026
Speaker 1: Really quick. Two more teams that I'm gonna let you go.

826
00:40:58,586 --> 00:41:00,706
Speaker 1: Is there a chance the Giants can get the number

827
00:41:00,746 --> 00:41:01,346
Speaker 1: two overall?

828
00:41:01,386 --> 00:41:07,266
Speaker 4: Pick a chance? But it's it's it's fractional. So it

829
00:41:07,266 --> 00:41:09,746
Speaker 4: involves First of all, you gotta remember that you know

830
00:41:09,906 --> 00:41:13,986
Speaker 4: Arizona is sitting there, you know, playing a desperate Seattle team,

831
00:41:14,106 --> 00:41:17,346
Speaker 4: and even if Washington wins, and even if New England wins,

832
00:41:17,586 --> 00:41:20,186
Speaker 4: you're still, if you're a Giants fan, you're gonna need

833
00:41:20,306 --> 00:41:22,706
Speaker 4: Arizona to win as well. You're gonna need all three

834
00:41:22,746 --> 00:41:26,786
Speaker 4: of those teams to win. Now, if they do, Washington

835
00:41:26,946 --> 00:41:30,626
Speaker 4: does the Giants, excuse me, do enter into that strength

836
00:41:30,666 --> 00:41:35,466
Speaker 4: to schedule mix Right now? Their opponents are combined one

837
00:41:35,546 --> 00:41:38,226
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty nine and one hundred and thirty three,

838
00:41:39,106 --> 00:41:42,986
Speaker 4: so they're actually, you know, it's a game weaker, but

839
00:41:43,066 --> 00:41:47,546
Speaker 4: in this context, the game better than Washington right now

840
00:41:47,826 --> 00:41:49,706
Speaker 4: when it comes to that, when it comes to getting

841
00:41:49,746 --> 00:41:52,626
Speaker 4: the two seeds. So now that again there's some common

842
00:41:52,666 --> 00:41:56,866
Speaker 4: games there that could change, so there would be. But yes,

843
00:41:57,026 --> 00:42:00,226
Speaker 4: if if Washington loses to Dallas, if New England loses,

844
00:42:00,386 --> 00:42:04,506
Speaker 4: excuse me, if Washington beats Downs, if New England beats

845
00:42:05,746 --> 00:42:10,106
Speaker 4: the Jets, and if Arizona beats Seattle and the Giants lose,

846
00:42:10,826 --> 00:42:14,506
Speaker 4: then the Giants enter into a tie with those teams,

847
00:42:14,866 --> 00:42:17,466
Speaker 4: and their strength of schedule would give them a shot.

848
00:42:17,746 --> 00:42:22,146
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Last one, the La Chargers, they have gone from

849
00:42:22,146 --> 00:42:24,266
Speaker 1: being a super Bowl favorite for the season, could they

850
00:42:24,386 --> 00:42:25,386
Speaker 1: end up with the number two.

851
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:29,946
Speaker 4: So it's a similar scenario here, but the strength is

852
00:42:30,146 --> 00:42:33,946
Speaker 4: so right now, the Chargers combined opponent record is one

853
00:42:34,186 --> 00:42:37,786
Speaker 4: forty three and one twenty nine, so you could see

854
00:42:37,826 --> 00:42:41,866
Speaker 4: it would they need They'd probably want the Giants to win.

855
00:42:44,346 --> 00:42:47,066
Speaker 4: You know, they wouldn't want to be in a tiebreaker

856
00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:49,506
Speaker 4: with the Giants, and they're gonna they would beat if

857
00:42:49,546 --> 00:42:53,186
Speaker 4: they could get into a tiebreaker with Arizona, their strength

858
00:42:53,226 --> 00:42:57,546
Speaker 4: of a schedule would would break in their favor with Arizona.

859
00:42:57,586 --> 00:43:00,666
Speaker 4: To catch New England would be tough. You know, there

860
00:43:00,706 --> 00:43:02,786
Speaker 4: are two games up there. To catch Washington would be

861
00:43:03,066 --> 00:43:08,266
Speaker 4: So there is a scenario for them, but you know,

862
00:43:08,506 --> 00:43:12,626
Speaker 4: again it involves they're gonna need some breaks on common games,

863
00:43:12,986 --> 00:43:16,226
Speaker 4: on a unique games, i should say, in the strengthen schedule,

864
00:43:17,466 --> 00:43:18,946
Speaker 4: and they're going to need Arizona to win.

865
00:43:20,106 --> 00:43:23,186
Speaker 1: My big takeaway from this is a revelation that the Patriots,

866
00:43:23,226 --> 00:43:26,346
Speaker 1: despite thinking all their fans thinking, they ruined any chance

867
00:43:26,386 --> 00:43:29,586
Speaker 1: that Drake may when they beat the Steelers, they ruined

868
00:43:29,586 --> 00:43:33,466
Speaker 1: any chance when they went on Christmas even beat the

869
00:43:33,546 --> 00:43:38,266
Speaker 1: Broncos that hey, you could just take care of business lose.

870
00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:42,346
Speaker 1: See Washington lose, that's okay. And if they need New

871
00:43:42,466 --> 00:43:44,666
Speaker 1: Orleans and they they need Atlanta.

872
00:43:44,546 --> 00:43:46,906
Speaker 4: Because they played New Orleans, so they want New Orleans

873
00:43:46,906 --> 00:43:50,386
Speaker 4: to take a loss, and Washington played Atlanta, so they

874
00:43:50,426 --> 00:43:53,026
Speaker 4: want that to be credited as a win in Washington's column.

875
00:43:53,466 --> 00:43:55,506
Speaker 4: How much do this? How much are the Patriots? How

876
00:43:55,546 --> 00:43:58,106
Speaker 4: much is Bill Belichick willing to lose to the Jets?

877
00:43:58,146 --> 00:44:00,666
Speaker 4: They getting it first is the first question there. But yeah,

878
00:44:00,666 --> 00:44:01,226
Speaker 4: it's possible, and.

879
00:44:01,186 --> 00:44:03,506
Speaker 1: I don't think They've got fifteen straight wins, and Belichick

880
00:44:03,586 --> 00:44:05,946
Speaker 1: hates the Jets and they're so prideful as a franchise.

881
00:44:05,986 --> 00:44:08,706
Speaker 1: I don't see them losing unless the Jets just somehow

882
00:44:08,706 --> 00:44:11,146
Speaker 1: put it together. But based on what they've done Thursday

883
00:44:11,186 --> 00:44:13,786
Speaker 1: night against Cleveland, I don't see that either. Hey, real quick,

884
00:44:13,786 --> 00:44:17,066
Speaker 1: before we go, I want ninety seconds to a minute.

885
00:44:17,346 --> 00:44:20,066
Speaker 1: Tell me about Humboldt County and how it's looking out

886
00:44:20,106 --> 00:44:20,946
Speaker 1: in Iowa right now.

887
00:44:24,546 --> 00:44:26,386
Speaker 4: I don't have go to work, Cord, Now, do you

888
00:44:26,466 --> 00:44:29,226
Speaker 4: live this way? I don't have county to county polls

889
00:44:29,266 --> 00:44:32,106
Speaker 4: in Iowa, but our last pool of Iowa, which we

890
00:44:32,186 --> 00:44:34,026
Speaker 4: do with the devoid register, I'll give a plug to them.

891
00:44:34,026 --> 00:44:36,626
Speaker 4: They have the best by far pool in Iowa had

892
00:44:36,666 --> 00:44:40,186
Speaker 4: Trump head by forty points. So I imagine he's ahead. Okay,

893
00:44:40,186 --> 00:44:42,306
Speaker 4: I imagine he's up at all ninety nine counties in

894
00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:44,906
Speaker 4: Iowa right now. But yeah, we are.

895
00:44:44,946 --> 00:44:47,026
Speaker 1: Is there a debate before that is gonna get on

896
00:44:47,026 --> 00:44:48,106
Speaker 1: that announced?

897
00:44:48,626 --> 00:44:51,706
Speaker 4: It looks like he's not. So it looks like you're

898
00:44:51,746 --> 00:44:53,746
Speaker 4: going to have a Nikky Haley ron to see it.

899
00:44:53,786 --> 00:44:57,506
Speaker 4: This debate seat. They haven't seemed to matter. Christ not

900
00:44:57,586 --> 00:45:00,946
Speaker 4: meeting the threshold, not meeting the threshold. So and no

901
00:45:01,106 --> 00:45:06,226
Speaker 4: Trump there and uh, here's here's the plug. The Sunday

902
00:45:06,226 --> 00:45:08,706
Speaker 4: mo before the Caucasus. It's gonna be a Sunday morning

903
00:45:08,746 --> 00:45:12,146
Speaker 4: of January fourteenth. NBC News has a partnership with the

904
00:45:12,186 --> 00:45:15,306
Speaker 4: des Moines Register, biggest newspaper in Iowa. They have their poll.

905
00:45:15,426 --> 00:45:18,266
Speaker 4: This goes back decades. They have the best poll of

906
00:45:18,306 --> 00:45:21,266
Speaker 4: that state. Everybody looks for the day before the Caucasus.

907
00:45:21,346 --> 00:45:24,346
Speaker 4: It's historically been very accurate. We're gonna release it with

908
00:45:24,426 --> 00:45:27,226
Speaker 4: them the Des Moines Register that Sunday morning before the Caucasus.

909
00:45:27,586 --> 00:45:29,506
Speaker 4: So look for that poll is a big clue heading

910
00:45:29,506 --> 00:45:30,626
Speaker 4: at the caucas day in two weeks.

911
00:45:30,626 --> 00:45:32,186
Speaker 1: All right, I need a time because I got wild

912
00:45:32,266 --> 00:45:34,186
Speaker 1: card weekend. That weekend, I'm gonna be sucked. I'm gonna

913
00:45:34,186 --> 00:45:35,946
Speaker 1: have what time is this, I'll meet the frost when

914
00:45:36,026 --> 00:45:41,626
Speaker 1: we have six am, we get out.

915
00:45:41,666 --> 00:45:42,986
Speaker 4: I believe that's what we're looking at.

916
00:45:43,066 --> 00:45:46,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, our updated Paul, Steve Karanaki, you are the man.

917
00:45:46,826 --> 00:45:49,986
Speaker 1: Good luck. Not only this weekend on Sunday, We're gonna

918
00:45:50,026 --> 00:45:51,466
Speaker 1: work Saturday too, probably right.

919
00:45:51,706 --> 00:45:53,586
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is pretty much going around the

920
00:45:53,586 --> 00:45:54,906
Speaker 4: clock these days. Yeah.

921
00:45:55,106 --> 00:45:57,826
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Saturday night you'll be doing the football, Sunday

922
00:45:57,866 --> 00:45:59,706
Speaker 1: doing the football, and then he'll be doing Iowa and

923
00:45:59,746 --> 00:46:02,186
Speaker 1: of course all the election stuff. Steve, it means so

924
00:46:02,226 --> 00:46:04,146
Speaker 1: much when you join the show, and I just really

925
00:46:04,146 --> 00:46:07,146
Speaker 1: appreciate the friendship that we've begun just based on this stuff.

926
00:46:07,146 --> 00:46:08,586
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm a numbers wonk and I love

927
00:46:08,626 --> 00:46:09,226
Speaker 1: hearing you talking.

928
00:46:09,346 --> 00:46:12,466
Speaker 4: I love talking to Seed. In the second pick in

929
00:46:12,506 --> 00:46:15,586
Speaker 4: the draft, there's completely what else, all the terminologies reversed.

930
00:46:15,586 --> 00:46:17,626
Speaker 4: I probably confused it one hundred times, but this was fun.

931
00:46:17,626 --> 00:46:18,866
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Thank you, Steve.

932
00:46:25,586 --> 00:46:27,546
Speaker 1: Real quick before we sign off, like the little recap

933
00:46:27,546 --> 00:46:30,226
Speaker 1: of the guest uh Kardaki in the playoff odds, it's

934
00:46:30,226 --> 00:46:33,546
Speaker 1: not that crazy this year. So I thought the draft

935
00:46:33,546 --> 00:46:34,746
Speaker 1: stuff was fascinating.

936
00:46:35,466 --> 00:46:37,626
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I love the playoff stuff too, but

937
00:46:37,706 --> 00:46:41,946
Speaker 2: the draft was. I couldn't believe how close those strengths

938
00:46:41,986 --> 00:46:45,666
Speaker 2: of schedule were with one thirty ninety one combined wins.

939
00:46:45,986 --> 00:46:49,466
Speaker 2: I love that the head to head actually could come

940
00:46:49,466 --> 00:46:51,666
Speaker 2: into play. I mean the draft thing like.

941
00:46:52,146 --> 00:46:55,466
Speaker 1: But the the odds and the way the way the

942
00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:57,946
Speaker 1: tie breakers work are completely reversed.

943
00:46:57,626 --> 00:47:00,626
Speaker 2: So right until you get to head the head and

944
00:47:00,666 --> 00:47:03,346
Speaker 2: then it's and then the way you want it. I mean,

945
00:47:03,346 --> 00:47:07,426
Speaker 2: this feels like something you need to be looking at visually. Yes,

946
00:47:07,426 --> 00:47:10,226
Speaker 2: because algorithm. Even me trying to explain it to myself,

947
00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:13,906
Speaker 2: having just listened and understanding it, I still can't explain.

948
00:47:13,626 --> 00:47:15,666
Speaker 1: A segment I should do for Good Morning Football explaining

949
00:47:15,706 --> 00:47:18,586
Speaker 1: it because I feel like, as a viewer, I'm a

950
00:47:18,666 --> 00:47:23,466
Speaker 1: huge draft fan. I just assumed Washington has a tiebreaker

951
00:47:23,546 --> 00:47:26,586
Speaker 1: and that's forever over the Patriots because they've had the

952
00:47:26,586 --> 00:47:29,746
Speaker 1: second pick this whole time and the Cardinals loss, so

953
00:47:29,786 --> 00:47:33,666
Speaker 1: that but the Patriots still could possibly get it if

954
00:47:33,666 --> 00:47:37,346
Speaker 1: the Falcons win and then other things have happened.

955
00:47:37,066 --> 00:47:39,626
Speaker 2: All right, and that number two pick is really between

956
00:47:40,826 --> 00:47:48,066
Speaker 2: New England, Arizona, New York, Washington, Washington, and potentially the Chargers.

957
00:47:48,226 --> 00:47:49,786
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets are out of it because they

958
00:47:49,826 --> 00:47:50,706
Speaker 1: have one more win, but.

959
00:47:50,666 --> 00:47:54,146
Speaker 2: That's four out of those five teams you could argue

960
00:47:54,586 --> 00:47:58,466
Speaker 2: really really want a quarterback. That two is a really

961
00:47:58,506 --> 00:47:59,306
Speaker 2: important spot.

962
00:47:59,546 --> 00:48:03,186
Speaker 1: And there's a chance that the Bears do something funky,

963
00:48:03,586 --> 00:48:06,186
Speaker 1: don't take a quarterback or trade out the pick.

964
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:08,746
Speaker 2: To someone else, so many things.

965
00:48:08,826 --> 00:48:12,866
Speaker 1: One of these teams, I got it. I don't want

966
00:48:12,866 --> 00:48:15,586
Speaker 1: to call bs, but like, how do you not know

967
00:48:15,586 --> 00:48:16,626
Speaker 1: who Taylor Swift is?

968
00:48:18,266 --> 00:48:20,226
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he could have seen.

969
00:48:20,946 --> 00:48:23,626
Speaker 1: Like if Doua Lipa walked right in right now, I

970
00:48:23,626 --> 00:48:24,786
Speaker 1: don't know if I would know who that is. And

971
00:48:24,826 --> 00:48:26,986
Speaker 1: I've heard her music, I know her face, and I

972
00:48:27,026 --> 00:48:28,786
Speaker 1: know her, I know her songs, but I don't know

973
00:48:28,826 --> 00:48:31,506
Speaker 1: if I would know her in like a crowd. I'll

974
00:48:31,506 --> 00:48:35,706
Speaker 1: give you another one. If Meghan the Stallion walked in,

975
00:48:36,066 --> 00:48:37,786
Speaker 1: I would tell you her songs, I know, but I

976
00:48:37,786 --> 00:48:39,746
Speaker 1: don't know if I would one hundred percent know her.

977
00:48:39,746 --> 00:48:42,266
Speaker 1: If you gave me a crowd of Taylor Swift, I

978
00:48:42,346 --> 00:48:46,506
Speaker 1: think like Beyonce, I know, yeah, I'm I'm as diehard

979
00:48:46,546 --> 00:48:49,666
Speaker 1: football an one Taylor Swift, I know, right.

980
00:48:50,146 --> 00:48:52,866
Speaker 2: I think the fact that you are saying maybe you

981
00:48:52,906 --> 00:48:55,906
Speaker 2: wouldn't know Megan the Stallion just from look is enough

982
00:48:55,946 --> 00:48:59,066
Speaker 2: to say you're a lot more tied in. And so

983
00:48:59,266 --> 00:49:01,346
Speaker 2: it's understandable that cornet.

984
00:49:01,466 --> 00:49:05,666
Speaker 1: You know a movie he referenced. He referenced Funny for Google,

985
00:49:05,746 --> 00:49:09,266
Speaker 1: Funny for It came out in like nineteen ninety. I

986
00:49:09,266 --> 00:49:11,666
Speaker 1: want to say, Chevy Chase eats a what's you eat?

987
00:49:11,706 --> 00:49:12,546
Speaker 1: Like dog tested?

988
00:49:12,626 --> 00:49:12,906
Speaker 4: What's it?

989
00:49:12,986 --> 00:49:16,026
Speaker 1: Do you remember that scene? What is it? Nineteen eighty eight?

990
00:49:16,066 --> 00:49:17,666
Speaker 1: What testicles does he eat in the movie?

991
00:49:17,746 --> 00:49:17,986
Speaker 2: That's what.

992
00:49:19,706 --> 00:49:22,786
Speaker 1: He eats, like animal testicles and he's like, oh, your tasty.

993
00:49:22,866 --> 00:49:25,666
Speaker 1: That's the big scene that was in the trailer. It's

994
00:49:25,666 --> 00:49:29,986
Speaker 1: basically a city slicker lamb testicles and he eats and

995
00:49:30,106 --> 00:49:32,106
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, these are chewy, and it turns out

996
00:49:32,146 --> 00:49:34,306
Speaker 1: their lamb testicles. And that's the trailer. And that's all

997
00:49:34,346 --> 00:49:37,346
Speaker 1: I remember from nineteen eighty eight. I was six years old. Dude.

998
00:49:37,586 --> 00:49:40,906
Speaker 1: Karnaki referenced Funny Form as like his pop culture touch point.

999
00:49:41,066 --> 00:49:44,146
Speaker 2: It was not even like a recent Chevy Chase thing too,

1000
00:49:44,346 --> 00:49:45,466
Speaker 2: or like eighty eight.

1001
00:49:45,586 --> 00:49:49,386
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not did not reference Fletch.

1002
00:49:49,426 --> 00:49:55,026
Speaker 2: Right right, or Caddy Shack, National Lampoons or anything.

1003
00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:56,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny farm.

1004
00:49:56,466 --> 00:50:00,866
Speaker 2: I'm currently rewatching community with which has Chevy Chase.

1005
00:50:01,506 --> 00:50:02,866
Speaker 1: And is it worth the rewatch?

1006
00:50:03,106 --> 00:50:04,906
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's the beginning. The

1007
00:50:04,946 --> 00:50:06,466
Speaker 2: first couple of seasons are great.

1008
00:50:06,946 --> 00:50:08,746
Speaker 1: Chevy leaves after how many seasons.

1009
00:50:08,466 --> 00:50:12,026
Speaker 2: Forget, like four or five? He's in it. Maybe notoriously

1010
00:50:12,826 --> 00:50:16,226
Speaker 2: yet yep, yep, yep, yep.

1011
00:50:16,466 --> 00:50:18,786
Speaker 1: That's not what they say about KERNACKI they say, right, yeah,

1012
00:50:19,026 --> 00:50:20,746
Speaker 1: he wants the harm. He said, I don't want to

1013
00:50:20,746 --> 00:50:22,266
Speaker 1: get the ire of Taylor Swift, right.

1014
00:50:22,346 --> 00:50:22,746
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1015
00:50:22,906 --> 00:50:25,026
Speaker 2: I don't think any of them would be upset with him.

1016
00:50:25,306 --> 00:50:26,866
Speaker 2: It's not like he was like, oh, I don't know

1017
00:50:26,906 --> 00:50:28,906
Speaker 2: her because she's bad. I know. There was a big

1018
00:50:28,946 --> 00:50:31,426
Speaker 2: news story. This is we don't even talk about this.

1019
00:50:31,546 --> 00:50:33,706
Speaker 2: There's a big news story. This weekend. Some country music

1020
00:50:33,746 --> 00:50:36,146
Speaker 2: guy was like he was playing some festival and he

1021
00:50:36,186 --> 00:50:39,546
Speaker 2: was like, Taylor Swift has had the most success for

1022
00:50:39,626 --> 00:50:42,146
Speaker 2: someone with no talent, and it was like, oh my god, man,

1023
00:50:42,186 --> 00:50:43,306
Speaker 2: you're I don't.

1024
00:50:43,186 --> 00:50:48,506
Speaker 1: Know well no, I mean it was the cap from

1025
00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:50,906
Speaker 1: Barstool is great on this stuff. He just checks him up.

1026
00:50:50,906 --> 00:50:53,226
Speaker 1: He says that the Chiefs are losing because of Taylor Swift.

1027
00:50:53,266 --> 00:50:55,186
Speaker 1: But he's all doing as a troll job and he's

1028
00:50:55,226 --> 00:50:58,026
Speaker 1: doing it when he's in on the joke. What's this one?

1029
00:50:58,466 --> 00:50:58,746
Speaker 4: Wow?

1030
00:50:58,866 --> 00:51:01,506
Speaker 2: I can't you know how small the story this is.

1031
00:51:01,786 --> 00:51:04,706
Speaker 2: I just searched Taylor Swift in news and it's not

1032
00:51:04,826 --> 00:51:07,426
Speaker 2: coming up at all. Everything is about the outfit that

1033
00:51:07,466 --> 00:51:08,826
Speaker 2: she wore to New year Z.

1034
00:51:09,066 --> 00:51:12,146
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this one. I work with Erdoll,

1035
00:51:12,226 --> 00:51:20,706
Speaker 1: Jamie Erdol Swifty. She's in Taylor is in Japan, Tokyo.

1036
00:51:22,506 --> 00:51:25,426
Speaker 1: The day of the Super Bowl. I said she would

1037
00:51:25,426 --> 00:51:26,906
Speaker 1: cancel the show. She will be at the Super Bowl.

1038
00:51:26,906 --> 00:51:28,986
Speaker 1: She's not missing, She's not going to games against the

1039
00:51:29,026 --> 00:51:33,266
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos on Christmas and traveling out there to see

1040
00:51:33,266 --> 00:51:36,826
Speaker 1: her play the play play the Jake Browning Bengals. And

1041
00:51:36,946 --> 00:51:40,386
Speaker 1: Erdoll's like, I don't know. And then Kyle Brant, who

1042
00:51:40,466 --> 00:51:44,786
Speaker 1: is plugged into all this stuff, is like, it's a

1043
00:51:44,986 --> 00:51:50,626
Speaker 1: really really really big deal to cancer cancel a concert date.

1044
00:51:50,746 --> 00:51:53,546
Speaker 1: Like the amount of money, the amount of people, the

1045
00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:56,386
Speaker 1: amount of things evolved to cancel a concert date is like,

1046
00:51:56,986 --> 00:51:58,626
Speaker 1: And I said, well, what if they had two weeks

1047
00:51:58,626 --> 00:52:00,346
Speaker 1: heads up and they knew they were going to the

1048
00:52:00,386 --> 00:52:02,706
Speaker 1: super Bowl, And like the night they win the AFC

1049
00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:06,386
Speaker 1: Championship game, Taylor Swift announces that particular concert is going

1050
00:52:06,546 --> 00:52:09,106
Speaker 1: to be another day. Everyone's fully refunded. It just is

1051
00:52:09,146 --> 00:52:12,066
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm not missing Aaron. You're in the

1052
00:52:12,146 --> 00:52:14,786
Speaker 1: arts and you're into concert. Now. Look, I know that

1053
00:52:14,826 --> 00:52:18,066
Speaker 1: you're not Taylor Swift, but from a different viewpoint someone

1054
00:52:18,066 --> 00:52:20,946
Speaker 1: who knows the music world. Is it so crazy for

1055
00:52:20,986 --> 00:52:22,826
Speaker 1: me to think that she would cancel a night in

1056
00:52:22,866 --> 00:52:24,426
Speaker 1: Tokyo and go to the super Bowl.

1057
00:52:25,266 --> 00:52:29,386
Speaker 2: I mean that's wild, I think so. I mean, we

1058
00:52:29,626 --> 00:52:31,866
Speaker 2: the three of us, talk about theater a lot. I'm thinking,

1059
00:52:31,906 --> 00:52:33,546
Speaker 2: what if you went to go see if what if

1060
00:52:33,546 --> 00:52:36,826
Speaker 2: you went to see most of Atherage do her one

1061
00:52:36,826 --> 00:52:40,746
Speaker 2: woman show and that night like, oh, she's sick, there's

1062
00:52:40,746 --> 00:52:42,386
Speaker 2: a stand in. I mean, I don't know if she

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Speaker 2: even had an understudy. Fashions right, but it's it's not.

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Speaker 1: I know someone who went to see Funny Girl Liah

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Speaker 1: Michelle wasn't there and they were not happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's in it right, Yeah, but fans get

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Speaker 2: really upset when a concert, especially an international concert, is

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Speaker 2: canceled for whatever reason. Uh. Pretty famously, a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, Daniel Caesar, this R and B singer had

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Speaker 2: to shut down all of his concerts internationally or just

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Speaker 2: in South America. I think because of some like label disagreements.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the whole story, but people were furious,

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Speaker 2: and I think, okay. If Taylor Swift was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: can't I'm rescheduling this, Lison.

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Speaker 1: Shews it like January twenty sixth, the concert's February tenth.

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Speaker 2: And if she said I'm rescheduling and while I'm rescheduling,

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Speaker 2: I'm adding a second date.

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Speaker 4: Ooh.

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Speaker 2: I think people would be okay with it.

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Speaker 1: If she's doing it for.

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Speaker 2: Love, if it meant she had she would have to

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Speaker 2: give something everything.

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Speaker 1: This is her supporting her. She's flying one night in

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Speaker 1: from Asia to see her husband play in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well not husband yet? Are they married? Did she just

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Speaker 2: play some special news?

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Speaker 1: Sorr would have made some big news from what does

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Speaker 1: that makes it even more romantic? Her boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: As someone who's not as swifty. I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: more important to them. I do think seeing the show

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00:54:04,506 --> 00:54:08,666
Speaker 2: is very very important to them. So but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to turn this question around on you real quick.

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Speaker 1: Would I'm Mary Taylor? No, no, no, my wife America

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Speaker 1: and I love her eleven years due relaxed. No.

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Speaker 2: If so, say the Chiefs get to the you know,

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00:54:23,466 --> 00:54:25,906
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship and they lose, They're not going to

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Does Kelsey go to Tokyo?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he supports her, just like she supported him.

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Speaker 1: He's on the tour. He came to South America.

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Speaker 2: During the season, right, oh yeah, yeah, bye week Yeah okay,

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Speaker 2: And you don't think I mean, I totally understand.

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Speaker 4: A lot of out of it.

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Speaker 1: They'll have a Waves podcast and he'll be doing Travis

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00:54:42,906 --> 00:54:44,626
Speaker 1: Kelsey does Japan, and they'll be doing Man on the

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00:54:44,626 --> 00:54:47,666
Speaker 1: Street stuff like he's Anthony bourd Dame. Yeah yeah, he's there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, And you may never see him a football

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Speaker 1: feld again. He might that that might be his second career.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be traveling Travis Kelsey, which.

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Speaker 2: I mean he could be. He and Jason could be

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00:54:57,386 --> 00:54:59,426
Speaker 2: singing back up on some songs. You know, they could

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00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:02,026
Speaker 2: do a Taylor album. I've got some writing in there.

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Speaker 1: So we net out where you say it would be

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00:55:06,266 --> 00:55:09,386
Speaker 1: a acceptable for the diehard swifties as long as she

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Speaker 1: had a nice wrinkle to it and offered a nice

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Speaker 1: carrot at the end, saying, I love Tokyo so much.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do another night?

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Speaker 2: I think so? Okay, Yeah, I think that that would

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00:55:17,946 --> 00:55:21,186
Speaker 2: be a way to win back some good grades.

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Speaker 4: One more.

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Speaker 1: The day they announced Usher It's going to be the

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00:55:25,986 --> 00:55:30,106
Speaker 1: halftime show, she made her first appearance at a Chiefs game.

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00:55:30,146 --> 00:55:31,746
Speaker 1: I forget who they played, but she was in the

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Speaker 1: crowd and that just blew everyone away, and that was

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Speaker 1: the biggest story. And Usher's super Bowl halftime announcement was

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Speaker 1: kind of buried because Taylor Swift was at an NFL

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Speaker 1: game and she was cheering on her boyfriend Travis kelce

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00:55:41,906 --> 00:55:46,826
Speaker 1: which was crazy. Do you think Taylor Swift showing up

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Speaker 1: at the super Bowl to support Travis kelcey undermine the

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Speaker 1: artist Raymond and his big night being the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: halftime show? And would that even come into consideration as

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00:55:58,546 --> 00:55:59,986
Speaker 1: she would not want to take any of the glow

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00:56:00,106 --> 00:56:01,066
Speaker 1: or glamour away.

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Speaker 2: Woo. I don't know if they have any sort of

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00:56:05,346 --> 00:56:08,786
Speaker 2: relationship already, and I think maybe they're so different, like

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00:56:08,946 --> 00:56:11,386
Speaker 2: Usher is more an R and B singer than a

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00:56:11,426 --> 00:56:15,146
Speaker 2: pop star. Maybe that's entirely wrong, but it'd be something

1137
00:56:15,146 --> 00:56:19,866
Speaker 2: else if, like, right, if Katy Perry was the half,

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00:56:19,986 --> 00:56:22,106
Speaker 2: you know, because she's already done. Of course Katy Perry

1139
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Speaker 2: did the halftime show. If Taylor showed up, oh my god,

1140
00:56:25,706 --> 00:56:27,586
Speaker 2: just to be in the crowd, to be in the crowd,

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00:56:28,066 --> 00:56:29,226
Speaker 2: that would be that'd be rough.

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Speaker 1: I think interesting. Uh we wrap with that. I also

1143
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Speaker 1: want to mention I didn't know if I was going

1144
00:56:35,346 --> 00:56:37,306
Speaker 1: to share it. I had one of the coolest career

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Speaker 1: experiences Friday night in Los Angeles. My my fight is

1146
00:56:41,426 --> 00:56:44,266
Speaker 1: usually Saturday morning. I flew out Friday night and a

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00:56:44,386 --> 00:56:49,066
Speaker 1: mutual friend, the great Carissa Thompson, helped arrange something. I

1148
00:56:49,106 --> 00:56:55,746
Speaker 1: had a long, four hour, amazing dinner with al Michaels

1149
00:56:55,746 --> 00:56:58,946
Speaker 1: and his wife Linda on Friday night in Los Angeles.

1150
00:56:59,026 --> 00:57:02,786
Speaker 1: I have never had a real relationship with al Michaels.

1151
00:57:02,826 --> 00:57:06,986
Speaker 1: We had met before h at one time. I'll just

1152
00:57:06,986 --> 00:57:09,706
Speaker 1: tell you the stories here in Sochi at the Olympics

1153
00:57:09,946 --> 00:57:12,346
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, he was there and have a NBC

1154
00:57:12,426 --> 00:57:15,266
Speaker 1: obviously in a much more prominent role than me for Fox,

1155
00:57:15,266 --> 00:57:18,106
Speaker 1: which was not a right soldier, but one time I

1156
00:57:18,146 --> 00:57:20,146
Speaker 1: met him there and we had a great conversation and

1157
00:57:20,226 --> 00:57:24,026
Speaker 1: we talked, you know, his stories, which was cool. Fast

1158
00:57:24,066 --> 00:57:26,426
Speaker 1: forward a couple of years ago, I was in the

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00:57:26,466 --> 00:57:28,746
Speaker 1: same hotel as Al when they were doing a Sunday

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00:57:28,786 --> 00:57:30,506
Speaker 1: night game and I was there for Fox in Los

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00:57:30,546 --> 00:57:33,666
Speaker 1: Angeles and Chris collins Worth and his wife Holly, Al

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00:57:33,746 --> 00:57:36,626
Speaker 1: and his wife Linda, and me as a fifth hung

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00:57:36,706 --> 00:57:39,706
Speaker 1: at the bar watching like a college football game, which

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00:57:39,786 --> 00:57:43,986
Speaker 1: was so cool. And then most recently, it would be

1165
00:57:44,226 --> 00:57:47,346
Speaker 1: this Friday night, I get this text from Carissa who's like,

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00:57:47,506 --> 00:57:50,946
Speaker 1: Al Michaels wants to meet you. I know you're a

1167
00:57:50,986 --> 00:57:54,266
Speaker 1: huge fan of his. Let's put this together. It was Carissa,

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00:57:54,426 --> 00:57:58,386
Speaker 1: it was myself, it was our mutual friend Spoon Spandune

1169
00:57:58,626 --> 00:58:02,866
Speaker 1: daf Turi, who is the Amazon pregame show producer used

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00:58:02,906 --> 00:58:04,866
Speaker 1: to be a Fox pregame producer, and it was Al

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00:58:04,906 --> 00:58:10,666
Speaker 1: Michaels and his wife. And the topics went from Al's

1172
00:58:10,666 --> 00:58:14,786
Speaker 1: relationship with Don Rickles, which spanned many years, Al's role

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00:58:14,906 --> 00:58:18,506
Speaker 1: in the O. J. Simpson Chase coverage as the Brentwood

1174
00:58:18,626 --> 00:58:22,666
Speaker 1: native and the guy who was a man on the scene.

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00:58:23,746 --> 00:58:26,706
Speaker 1: Al's relationship with Howard Stern, who is a hero of

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00:58:26,746 --> 00:58:30,706
Speaker 1: mine and his relationship with him. To Al's thoughts on

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00:58:30,746 --> 00:58:35,466
Speaker 1: Today's NFL, it was amazing and I hope he becomes

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00:58:35,466 --> 00:58:39,066
Speaker 1: a lifelong friend. We had an amazing dinner and it

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00:58:39,186 --> 00:58:43,466
Speaker 1: was really cool, and it just, you know, keeps you

1180
00:58:43,546 --> 00:58:46,266
Speaker 1: grateful and grounded that you can have those cool experiences.

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00:58:46,506 --> 00:58:48,906
Speaker 1: And Alan Michaels Aaron pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you? I just I assume you workshopped that

1183
00:58:53,426 --> 00:58:56,866
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift canceling the Tokyo show idea with him to

1184
00:58:56,946 --> 00:58:57,626
Speaker 2: bring it up to me.

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00:58:58,226 --> 00:59:00,906
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's got his He's got his what

1186
00:59:00,946 --> 00:59:03,066
Speaker 1: do you call it? Piccadillos, know what they would call it. Like,

1187
00:59:03,706 --> 00:59:05,786
Speaker 1: there's there's the Taylor Swift stuff, which I didn't get

1188
00:59:05,826 --> 00:59:08,786
Speaker 1: into with him. There's the vegetable thing, which I dined with.

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00:59:08,906 --> 00:59:12,226
Speaker 1: Oh right, he didn't need a single vegetable he's never

1190
00:59:12,346 --> 00:59:14,666
Speaker 1: had he said, he's never had a vegetable. And then

1191
00:59:14,666 --> 00:59:16,466
Speaker 1: the gambling stuff. But she used to always allude to.

1192
00:59:17,426 --> 00:59:19,386
Speaker 1: Now he's like out in the open, and I was

1193
00:59:19,426 --> 00:59:21,066
Speaker 1: like curious his thoughts and then he's like and he

1194
00:59:21,066 --> 00:59:22,346
Speaker 1: has a great line. He's like I was always a

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00:59:22,386 --> 00:59:25,186
Speaker 1: bit of a rascal. But I said, is there any advice.

1196
00:59:25,266 --> 00:59:27,866
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, be a rascal. I'm like, yeah, I

1197
00:59:27,866 --> 00:59:30,386
Speaker 1: don't have the same leeway and log be a rascal.

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00:59:30,746 --> 00:59:32,746
Speaker 1: I like that you have a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: bad boy side thea we have pushed the envelope sometimes.

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00:59:34,986 --> 00:59:37,066
Speaker 1: Hopefully we do that here on the season.

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00:59:37,226 --> 00:59:39,866
Speaker 2: Maybe a bad boy that still eats vegetable so I.

1202
00:59:39,786 --> 00:59:44,266
Speaker 1: Know, even the rascals. Yeah, all right. Uber Eats is

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Speaker 1: player I want to shout out is Joe Flacco. It

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00:59:51,266 --> 00:59:53,226
Speaker 1: happened on a Thursday night game, so it's already been

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00:59:53,226 --> 00:59:55,026
Speaker 1: forgotten because so many things have happened. But he guy

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00:59:55,106 --> 00:59:58,066
Speaker 1: threw for two hundred and ninety eight yards and a half,

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Speaker 1: the most he's ever thrown four and a half. And

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Speaker 1: he did it at thirty eight after a week of

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Speaker 1: hype and build up, and just went on and just

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Speaker 1: thrashed the Jets. Then it seemed like he fell a

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01:00:06,506 --> 01:00:08,706
Speaker 1: sleep on the sideline in the second half and came

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01:00:08,746 --> 01:00:10,226
Speaker 1: out and he was like, I wasn't asleep. Yeah, you

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01:00:10,266 --> 01:00:12,906
Speaker 1: were probably asleep It's all good, Joe. What Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: is doing is insane. I love seeing it. One of

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Speaker 1: the coolest stories of the year. He's your comeback player

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Speaker 1: of the year. I know Hamlin came back from near tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Take a sit in the field. Maybe we just named

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Speaker 1: the award that the Mar Hamblin Comeback Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: and you give the award to Joe Flacco, who has

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Speaker 1: I think, put on such an amazing performance, has galvanized

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Speaker 1: this Cleveland locker room and has given the city a

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01:00:34,026 --> 01:00:37,786
Speaker 1: reason for hope. Jason mccordy earlier today on Good Morning Football,

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01:00:38,506 --> 01:00:41,186
Speaker 1: we were talking about that Detroit, LA first round matchup,

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01:00:41,186 --> 01:00:44,626
Speaker 1: whether that's the most scintillating possible matchup in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and then includes Super Bowl everything he goes. Could you

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Speaker 1: imagine Las Vegas gets their first Super Bowl and Detroit

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland are the teams, and those two cities descend

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Speaker 1: upon Las Vegas, every fan who has not seen a

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01:00:54,866 --> 01:00:57,706
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ever in their lives going there for Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It's possible. Both those teams are playing inspired football and

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco I wouldn't bet against him right now that

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Order Now, next week we'll be in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. We'll have a whole different feeling and tone

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01:01:13,746 --> 01:01:16,226
Speaker 1: to this thing. But thank you to Steve Kornaki, Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Aaron wan Kaufman, Thank you to Jason English.

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Speaker 1: New Year's to everybody, Happy New Year's, Happy New Years

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Speaker 1: to our official team of the season with Peter Scherger,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcats, who not only won their bowl game,

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01:01:27,106 --> 01:01:29,826
Speaker 1: but will finish in the top ten in the AP rankings.

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01:01:30,306 --> 01:01:32,626
Speaker 1: When we had jedfish on in August coming off I

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01:01:32,626 --> 01:01:34,906
Speaker 1: think a one win season from a year ago. So

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Speaker 1: kudos to Jed and kudos to all those Arizona Wildcat

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Speaker 1: bear Down fans who work on this podcast on the

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Speaker 1: West Coast. You guys know who you are. Till next week,

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