1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: He looks different, will he play different? Welcome Bird Gang. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Ershman joins me. We're talking Marvin 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior first time this offseason. We've heard from MHJ. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: What he said, what we saw, Also some notes on 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: the schedules, specifically the end of the schedule when compared 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFC West, and what owners 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: are discussing, perhaps even deciding at the Spring league meeting 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: later this week. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighty five, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: He's ad a ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: So more hurry Magic. Here's Craig Grioler. 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: So before we go any further, we need to begin 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: with a welcome back to Zach. After a week off, 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: he was able to rest, relax, recharge, get ready for 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the offseason. 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: I don't think I did any of that. 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: No, no rest, no relaxing, no, nothing. 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely enjoyed it. I was on a 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: cruise to the Caribbean, so that was a fun time. 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: But when you go with a group of twenty something 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: year olds, rest, recover, relax, none of that really seems 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: to be the case. But we did have a lot 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: of fun, that's for sure. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: So basically, you did exactly the opposite of what we 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: heard Marvin Harrison Junior say he has done so far 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: this offseason, and that is zero days off. 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: I took, you know, a full week off, that is 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: for sure. I did the complete opposite there. With that 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: being said, though I put in the work in different areas, 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: I was very much enjoy the dance. 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: And we'll just leave that to the imagination of everyone 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: out there. We'll get to MHJ here in a moment, 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: because you are gone, Zach, I do want to give 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: one first off, the Mac Wilson Senior aka rocket Ship 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: and his three songs eighteen bars, one of one and 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: a to Z. I'm not sure how many people are 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: aware though, that you were kind of the catalyst for 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: all of this. As they say, when whenever there's a fire, 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: there's a spark, and I would I would categorize your 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: article a year ago with Mac, Jesse Luketta and Zach 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Pascal Third and Go. That article was kind of the 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the spark if you will, to what we saw last 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: week and what was a lengthy process but a great 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: music video to release the twenty twenty five Arizona Cardinal schedule. 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: I had a little bit of a moment with Mac 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: which I really appreciated because he he remembered that he 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: remember that article that we wrote back in November December 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: was before the game against the New England Patriots, if 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, and he was saying to me, He's like, look, 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: this is how it all. You know it started because 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: of that article, so for it to balloon into what 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: has utimately become one of, if not the top schedule 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: release videos. And kudos to everybody in our content creative department. 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: I know that they've been receiving a lot of praise. 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: I want to make sure I give them their flowers 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: as well on here on Cardinals Cover two, because they 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: do deserve it. It was a tire team effort. Yeah, 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: I could have been the spark, which I appreciate you 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: giving me credit for that as well. Craig but it's 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: a whole joint effort. Everybody is in it together and 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: it's very glad to see it come to fruition. 67 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Well. 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Was one of the cool things, even though I was 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: off all last week, seeing being able to be a 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: fan a little bit and seeing how the fans were 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: reacting to the scheduled release because I didn't see it 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: until it was posted. That was my first time watching it, 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: so to even though I saw the production of it, 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: but to see it actually be posted on social media. 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: To see all the different fire emojis and a lot 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: of different people and companies and organizations giving Mac Wilson 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: and the Arizona Cardinals and the music group giving them 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: all their their flowers was definitely pretty rewarding to see, 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: so kudos to everybody involved. 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: First time an NFL team has introduced its schedule using 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Apple Music and Spotify, and it did take a lot 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: of people, a lot of different entities, a lot of 83 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: different partnerships. But to see it all come together, and 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: then the fact that you have not seen the video 85 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: or didn't see until it was posted. There is a 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: behind the scenes video available on the Arizona Cardinals official 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: YouTube page in which you can spot Zech in the 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: behind the scenes video because I did notice young Zach 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Gershman in the corner. I believe it was the bottom 90 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: left corner. I don't exactly know what you were doing, 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: but your face does appear in the video that has 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: been posted. 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: So that was the hot tub or the cold tub machine. 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: We brought Mac in there, and that's when we had 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: all the smoke. I was coming up and it's honestly 96 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: one of the coolest shots. My job was to be 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: the reflector to make sure that we had the background 98 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: lighting was on point. And then I was watching it 99 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: with Mac and a bunch of others. As we were 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: watching back the clip and to see he had his 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: phone out he was filming it. He posted a little 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: bit of a snippet on his social media. And I 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: will say this to our bird Gang listeners right now. 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: It was so tough the last time we had Cardinals 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: Cover two and we were previewing this and I couldn't 106 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: just tell you what I was doing. That was very 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: challenging because we are a bird Gang family over here. 108 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: So very sorry for not lying, because I would never 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 2: lie to you. I just couldn't tell you the full truth. 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: No, but I will say this, no one reflects more 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: than Zach Gershman. 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: I did do a great job reflecting and a lot 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: of reflection as well. 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: All Right, I've had my take on the schedule. There 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: are some nuggets before we hear and discuss what Marvin 116 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior had to say on Monday. But as you 117 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: saw this schedule, now have had about a week, a 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: little less than a week to figure out, right, how 119 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: does it start, how does it finish? How many primetime 120 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: games were? Are some challenges within the schedule? What do 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: you think on how Again, we've known about the opponents, 122 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: we've known about the locations, but how it gets stacked 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: up is what gets everyone excited when it finally gets released. 124 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: Very excited about the first portion of the season. I'm 125 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: very anxious about the last portion of the season. I 126 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: have to start off the season on the road once again. 127 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: I have yet to experience a Week one home opener 128 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: since joining the Arizona car So you're the reason. I'm 129 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: not sure if I'm the reason because it seems to 130 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: be the common theme over the previous handful of years. 131 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: But for the Cardinals, for a third trade season and 132 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: fifth time in the last six years, so crack. I'm 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: not sure if I'm the reason, but they're gonna be 134 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: going to New Orleans and there's no better opponent on 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: this schedule right now, considering their situation at quarterback, brand 136 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: new head coach and Kellen Moore, and also just being 137 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: on the road, and you have that familiarity of going 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: on the road with Jonathan Gan in week one. With 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: that being the case, there's no better opponent to try 140 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 2: to kickstart that season and also get used to being 141 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: in NFC South play because the following week they're gonna 142 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: be facing off against the Carolina Panthers, and we know 143 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: how that Week sixteen went matchup went last year in 144 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So I'm very excited for the Cardinals 145 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: to kick the season off strong. Obviously, there's the key 146 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: games you're looking forward to. The Thursday night Birthday game 147 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: for me against the Seattle Seahawks, the game against. 148 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: The time timeout you just attached your own self to. 149 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: Week five, Thank Roger Goodell of that one. 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Look I sow everyone out there mark on your calendar Thursday, 151 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: September twenty fifth. Not only is it Cardinals hosting the 152 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks on Thursday night football first primetime game of the season. 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: But apparently it's Zach's birthday. Not apparently it is. It 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be my birthday, and I'm very excited for that. 155 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of crazy gifts, but small gifts. 156 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: Anybody that wants to know, I'll play. But that game 157 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: on Thursday night, that's a chance to show to the 158 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: national media what the Arizona Cardinals are able to bring 159 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: to the table in NFC West play. So I recognize 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: that they played the San Francisco forty nine Ers the 161 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: week prior or the week earlier. With that being said 162 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: that that's the chance to put a stamp on the 163 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: division and set the tone for the remainder half of 164 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: the year. 165 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: The schedule, as you said, sets up real well for 166 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, at least on paper. As we speak here 167 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: in May. Games aren't played on paper. The Cardinals could 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: very much look different as far as who's available who's 169 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: not available on these games. But at least with your 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: what you are looking at is how teams performed last season, 171 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: what are they added in the offseason. Some news, specifically 172 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: around the Saints. Who's their quarterback? It's a first year 173 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: head coach, so things are going to look a lot different. 174 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: But you're starting the season with the first six games 175 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: against teams that did not make the playoffs, and your 176 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: first twelve games you're playing only one team that made 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs last season, that being Green Bay. So again, 178 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: on paper, it's a very good schedule for the Cardinals 179 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: to get out to a good start. A fast start, 180 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: especially with back to back division games in weeks three 181 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: and four, set yourself up well to where maybe and 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: every team goes through this, they say, stumble. There's a 183 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: game you should win and you don't. There's a game 184 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: in which you get blown out because for whatever reason 185 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: on that day, you just didn't have It happens to 186 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: every team, happens every year. But if you get off 187 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: to a strong start, now, all of a sudden at 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the back end of the schedule, which we can discuss 189 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: where there might be some hiccups again later in the season. 190 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: How banged up are you, whether, what are your health concerns? 191 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Are you playing in cold weather? Is it nice weather? 192 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: All of these things factor in. But if you have 193 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: given yourself a little bit of a cushion two or 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: three games ahead, then all of a sudden, it's not 195 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: that it's okay, but if you stub your foot, it's like, 196 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: all right, we can survive this base stuff. How we 197 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: began in September and early October. 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: The most fascinating game for me on the calendar, at 199 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: least in the early portion of it, is that game 200 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: against Green Bay. And it's not just because it was 201 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: the team that was in the playoffs they're gonna be 202 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: facing in the early half of the season. But even 203 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: in mac Wilson's song where he said it's that get 204 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: back versus green Bay line, and I saw in the 205 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals social media videos when they were speaking to the 206 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: players and the players that said that they wanted green Bay, 207 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: they mentioned it's a get back game. And I'm not 208 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: sure what was said in those meetings after that game 209 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: against green Bay. We know that the Cardinals were only 210 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: a playaway in three different games from being in the playoffs. 211 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 2: That game against green Bay was not the case. That 212 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: was a game where the Cardinals struggled a lot. Marvin 213 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior left the game with the concussion. The offense 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: wasn't clicking, it was cold, and it was rainy deck 215 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: that day over there in Lambeau. But the players seem 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: to really be talking about it a little bit more 217 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: than maybe just the others. And I'm not sure why 218 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: that is the case. If that game from twenty twenty 219 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: four is the reason why it's potentially circled, that's beyond me. 220 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: But to see that it's not. You look at some 221 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: of the calendar games. I'm looking forward to Houston, I'm 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: looking forward to Jacksonville, looking forward to Monday night football 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. But hearing how eager the guys 224 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: are to play against Green Bay, not only to play 225 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: against them, but to welcome them back to State Farm Stadium. 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what that matchup's gonna bring. 227 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: And that game is right before the bye, and if 228 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you can get that game back and you have some 229 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: positive momentum sorry JG, but positive momentum going into the by, 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: and then having a Monday night game at Dallas coming 231 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: out of the by. That stretch right there, followed by 232 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: another trip to Seattle. There's three games right there that 233 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: could be a pivot point within this schedule. You're looking 234 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: at weeks eight, nine, ten, and eleven, of. 235 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 2: Course, and that there. I don't think there's gonna be 236 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: that game against the Dallas Cowboys is gonna have a 237 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: lot of storylines for a lot of different reasons. Kyler 238 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Murray trying to make it ten and l at at 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: and T Stadium again and just being in Dallas. Obviously 240 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: he's undefeat against the Dallas Cowboys. Was a star high 241 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: school ballplayer out there and made that state championship venue 242 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: kind of feel like a home for him a little bit. 243 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: But it's also going to be how are the Cardinals 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: responding after the bye We know the struggles that they 245 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: had this past season when they when they hit the 246 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: bye week and then they went to Seattle and they struggled, 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: And that was kind of the stub your foot situation 248 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: that you were alluding to, Craig, was how you respond 249 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: after those certain moments, and the Cardinals weren't really able 250 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: to get their legs under them after that happened for 251 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty three, that was after 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: the Atlanta falcon Or they had the Houston Texans and 253 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: then a handful of different games in twenty twenty three, 254 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: and then the bye week happened, and obviously the team 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: was not the same for a lot of different reasons. 256 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: But that game against the Dallas Cowboys is going to 257 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: have a lot of storylines, but the number one storyline 258 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: should be how do the Cardinals respond after the buy? 259 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: Are they going to have that momentum even if JG 260 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: considers it a real thing or not a real thing? 261 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: How are they going to utilize the momentum for one 262 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: way or another post buy? 263 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: And it's not so much the bye because it's an 264 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: earlier bye week eight versus week now hurting fourteen, So 265 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: you get an early bye week. So yeah, you're gonna 266 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: focus on, Okay, how does the team respond after the 267 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: bye week? I'm just looking at We talked about how 268 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: the season begins, how the season finishes with four games, 269 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: four of six on the road, and five of those 270 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: six against teams with a winning record. In twenty twenty four, 271 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: the only team you're facing that did not have a 272 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: winning record are the Atlanta Falcons, who you have on 273 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: at home. That's your final home game before going out 274 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: on the road at Cincinnati at the Los Angeles Rams. 275 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: So again, the narrative of the Arizona Cardinals how do 276 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: they finish seasons can be dispelled or rewritten if you 277 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: finish off those final six games again on a positive 278 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: note and hopefully heading into the postseason. 279 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: Five and zero at home against the Alanta Falcons. I'm 280 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: pretty sure they're only twelve and two in the all 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: time series against Atlanta. So the Cardinals have had their 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: way with the Falcons. And that last time that they 283 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: played the Atlanta Falcons, let's go back in time here, 284 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: Kalas Campbell was on the Atlanta Falcons. Kyler Murray was 285 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: returning for the first time in Desert. Ritter, who was 286 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: the quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals for a couple of coffee, 287 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: was the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons. So a lot 288 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: has changed since that twenty twenty three season. But the 289 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: games against Cincinnati and the Rams especially are going to 290 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: be the ones where those are two teams that historically 291 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: have started to get themselves right towards the back end 292 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: of the season. They Dala Rams have typically started off 293 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: very slow, and then towards the back end weeks twelve, 294 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: thirteen and onward, that is when you start to see 295 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: that Los Angeles Rams team that you're starting to say, okay, well, 296 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: we don't want to face this team in the playoffs 297 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: because we know that they're starting to get their footing. 298 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: We know that they're starting to shrink together. A couple 299 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: of wins, and not just a couple of wins, but 300 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: a couple of strong wins, a couple of connected team wins. 301 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: The fact that you have them in week fourteen and 302 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: then week eighteen, that's gonna be a little bit of 303 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: a challenge over there. We also saw it a little 304 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: bit with the Seattle Seahawks. They had him in week 305 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: they had him in week twelve and then week fourteen. 306 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: When you play against division opponents and they're so close 307 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: in the schedule, that creates a handful of challenges. Glad 308 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: you brought up the Rams. 309 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: I was looking at not only how the Cardinals' schedule 310 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: sets up, but also the rest of the division. And 311 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: as difficult, again, I have to say this still as 312 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: difficult as it looks here in May. As far as 313 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: how the Cardinals finish, it does look very good for 314 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the Rams, the forty Hinders and Seahawks how their seasons finish. 315 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Rams finished with their final three games against teams that 316 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: did not make the playoffs. They finished with five of 317 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: six against teams who missed the playoffs. The forty nine 318 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: Ers do not play twenty twenty four playoff team in 319 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: the final eight weeks of their season, and the Seahawks 320 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: finished with four of their final five games against teams 321 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: that meant that missed the playoffs in twenty twenty four. 322 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: So again, a. 323 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Harder finish for the Cardinals as we speak here in May, 324 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: compared to their division opponents who seem to have a 325 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: softer end heading into the postseason, perhaps for the Rams, 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Seahawks. 327 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: But this is why you need to start off the 328 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: season so strong to give yourself some wiggle room. You 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: want to have these conversations going into the bye of 330 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: a lot of analysts because it's what happened in the 331 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Week eleven buye from this past season, where a lot 332 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: of analysts were saying, Okay, look at those Cardinals. You 333 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: know they're looking really strong six and four going into 334 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: the buy a lot of talks about them being the 335 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: betting favorites to win the NFC West. And it's how 336 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: they responded after the buy where things started to fade away. 337 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: You start off strong with the skill set and the 338 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: you know you could beat New Orleans. You know you 339 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: were a handful of plays away from being the Carolina Panthers. 340 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: You swept the San Francisco forty nine ers their previous year, 341 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: Seattle got the best of you, But how are you 342 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: going to respond? Especially on Thursday night fotball? Both teams 343 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: going into it on a short week. The Tennessee Titans, 344 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: who knows what cam Ward is going to be. You're 345 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: assuming that he's going to be a starting quarterback. I 346 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if you if they if they kind 347 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: of slow play him into it a little bit because 348 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: of not that I think it's actually going to happen, 349 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: but week one, week two, it wouldn't be a crazy 350 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: surprise to me. We've seen crazier things in the NFL, 351 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: and Brian Callahan is still running his way around being 352 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: an NFL head coach. So there's a lot of different ways. 353 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: But after the buye is when your season truly can begin. 354 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: But it's what you do in the beginning to make 355 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: sure that that's where you could have your starting point. 356 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: You're not going to win the division or clinch a 357 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: playoff spot in September or October, but you can certainly 358 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: lose a postseason spot what you do or what you 359 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: don't do in those first eight weeks, those first nine 360 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. 361 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: All right, I think to the Miami Dolphins from this 362 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: past year, I mean, they started off really slow, and 363 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: that game against the Arizona Cardinals, after that ended up happening, 364 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: there were talks about trading Kalais Campbell to different teams 365 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: because there was a thought that they might not even 366 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: be in the playoff race, because I'm pretty sure they 367 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 2: were only two and five at that point, if I'm 368 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: not mistaken, they definitely were way below five hundred. So 369 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: and then they had the back end of the season 370 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: and they picked up some ground a little bit, and 371 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: then they were back in that playoff hunt. They didn't 372 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: make it, but they were in that hunt. That is 373 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: what teams are capable of doing. The Miami Dolphins, if 374 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: they would have had the fast start in the very 375 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: beginning of the season, they would have been in the playoffs. 376 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: What are you going to do when those first six 377 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: to seven eight games going into Monday Night football against 378 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, that you get to put that stamp 379 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: not just on the division, but on the landscape of 380 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: the NFL of being a team that isn't just a 381 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: fun little story. It's not just Oh, look at what 382 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray are able to do 383 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: in week number two. You have to see it turn 384 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: into wins. 385 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Those first seven games, four at home, three on the road, 386 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: including two of your first three away from State Farm Stadium. 387 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Some good news with respects to the schedule for the Cardinals. 388 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: They do not play a team coming off it's bye week, 389 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: and only once and it comes in Week sixteen when 390 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: the Cardinals play the Falcons. Only once will they have 391 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: played or play a team that will have played on 392 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, so you get those three extra days 393 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: of rest. So that's what the Cardinals face when they 394 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: play the Falcons, who will have that Thursday night game 395 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the week prior. 396 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: And we already discussed the Cardinals' recent success against the 397 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: Alanta Falcons, so you hope that that doesn't even make 398 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: too much of a difference. And we obviously are going 399 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: to have those questions surrounding Week one of who the 400 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints quarterback is going to be. It's not 401 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: that much farther off with the Alanta Falcons, who are 402 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: their quarterback? Who is it going to be? Is it 403 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: gonna be Michael Pennix? They still have Kirk Cousins in 404 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: the building. At that point, I think we'll know, but 405 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: it will be fascinating until we get them. 406 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Another game that at least someone that we heard from 407 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: on Monday has an eye on, and that would be 408 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: week six, Sunday, October twelve, when the Cardinals visit the 409 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And Marvin Harrison Junior was asked about that 410 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: earlier on Monday because a year ago, yeah, the Cardinals 411 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: played the Colts in the preseason, Marvin did not play, 412 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: But this time he will be in that stadium, playing 413 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: on a football field in which his father starred Hall 414 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: of Fame career, and be back in the building which 415 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: well he basically grew up in having watched his father 416 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: either on the sidelines or up in the stands. So 417 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: that and Marvin acknowledged, that's going to be a special moment, 418 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: special weekend for him, his family and his friends. 419 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: It's going to be awesome when you get to trot 420 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: out onto the field and you look up into the 421 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: bleachers and you see your father's name on the side 422 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: of the building. It's going to be a very special 423 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: moment for the Harrison family. Obviously, they were there for 424 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: they went during the preseason, they had joint practices over 425 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: there in Indianapolis and got there was a big storyline, obviously, 426 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: but I think the person that was taking the headline 427 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: from that was Darius Robinson and what he was able 428 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: to do during those joint practices. He had such a 429 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: good joint practice that Johnathangannon didn't even have him suit 430 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: up in that preseason game. So for you would hope 431 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: from one second year player to another that both of 432 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: them are having standout performances. I'm very though, very very 433 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: very excited to see Marvin Harrison Junior put his own 434 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: stamp on Lucas Oil Stadium. 435 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of seeing MHJ, what did you see Monday as 436 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: he walked in and addressed the media for about fifteen minutes. 437 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: First time we've heard from MHJ since the season ended. 438 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: We have seen him in the weight room on the 439 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: football field, but we saw him I don't know if 440 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: it was by design or not, but in a sleeveless 441 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: shirts and of course a lot of noise this offseason 442 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: about how he has looked talking about Marvin in the 443 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: photos that we've seen in the weight room and on 444 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the football field, and how how does arms look a 445 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: lot larger, much more defined than his first year with 446 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: the Arizona Card. 447 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: I saw a dude that didn't look like he was 448 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: just on a cruise for a week. I saw a 449 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: guy that went into Johnathan Gannon's office when the season 450 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: ended and handing him a piece of paper and said, 451 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: I know, I know what I need to work on 452 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: throughout the offseason. And essentially he got a bet here 453 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: and he moved into the facility he lived in the 454 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: Dignity Health Training Center because he knew that. I asked 455 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: him about his satisfaction after the twenty twenty four season, 456 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: and he didn't really give me an answer. He was 457 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: more so saying he was just blessed to play the game. 458 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: But we heard from Marvin and how he said it 459 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: wasn't the year that he envisioned. And for him to 460 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: go into Johnathan Gannon's office and for him to hand 461 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: him that piece of paper and saying, these are the 462 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: things I know I need to work on, And one 463 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: of those things was definitely his build. He's trying to 464 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: figure out what weight he wants to play at, the 465 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: physicality that comes with playing in the NFL, what he's 466 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: learned from lining up from across from guys like Jalen 467 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: Ramsey and Sauce Gardner. In Week ten when they played 468 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: the New York Jets, Marvin Harrison Junior learned a lot 469 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: that rookie season. That year one to year two jumped 470 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: is often talked about. I think Marvin is going to 471 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: prove why that is the case. 472 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: You look at Harrison's numbers that for season eight hundred 473 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: and eighty five receiving yards, eight touchdowns, all solid in facts, 474 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: similar to what his father did in year one with 475 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Marvin Harrison Junior actually mentioned they were 476 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: too similar. But it's the other number, and that is 477 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: fifty three, as in fifty three percent catch percentage, sixty 478 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: two receptions, one hundred and sixteen targets. And I think 479 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: that right there tells you the story of MHJ. In 480 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: year one, he didn't catch as many balls as he 481 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: or I or anyone thought he should have based on 482 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: the number of times the ball was thrown his way. 483 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: So how do he increase that catch percentage? Well, one 484 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: way at least that you have control over in the 485 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: off season is making yourself bigger. Getting more physical, adds 486 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: some muscle and yes, MHJ has added muscle here in 487 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: the off season, mentioned that he feels the same, don't 488 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: quite know how much more weight he has added, still 489 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: listed at sixty three to nine, but he brought up 490 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: that the fact that football is a physical game. So 491 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: how do you be successful. You have to learn to 492 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: play physical within the rules, but play physical. And I 493 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: think that outside of the speed of the game is 494 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: one of the bigger adjustments for players coming from college 495 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: to the NFL. 496 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: And I know that there's so many statistics out there 497 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: that you know will be the fifty three percent catch 498 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: percentage or the drop percentages or whatever it might be. 499 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: Regardless of what the numbers say, it's the eye test 500 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: that you could clearly look at. And there were moments 501 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: where Marvin was struggling with going against some of these cornerbacks, 502 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: these physical, violent cornerbacks. It's not really a league that 503 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 2: you know, they try to not have the officials be 504 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: a part of the game, and at some moments on 505 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: those jump balls, you're not you haven't seen as many 506 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: defensive pass interferences or offensive pass interferences. They definitely happen 507 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: at moments. And I'm not here to talk about the officiating. 508 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: With that being said, though, there were moments throughout the 509 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season where it was a fifty to 510 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: fifty ball, and I think before where the season began, 511 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: we all would have expected from Marvin Harrison Junior to 512 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: be the player that comes down with it. That didn't 513 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 2: happen as often as I think a lot of us 514 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: anticipated for it to be the case. So for Marvin 515 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: to add some weight to play with that physicality to 516 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: kind of he said. He said that he has the 517 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: ability to turn on the switch to play a little 518 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: bit more physical and remind those that they are lining 519 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: up against Marvin Harrison Junior. You have to be able 520 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: to see him flip on that switch a little bit 521 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: more and himself being a little bit more willing to 522 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: call for the ball, not just to have those fifty 523 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 2: to fifty balls hit you in the chest, but going 524 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: out and being able to pick it with your hands 525 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: bring it in. We know how good his hands can be. 526 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: He just can't catch it with his chest. He has 527 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: to go out and use his six to three two 528 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: oh nine frame, which is probably not two o nine. 529 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: He said that he's still going to be figuring out 530 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: throughout the offseason throughout OTAs what weight he wants to 531 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: play at, but we are excited and eager to see 532 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: what that six to three frame can bring to the table. 533 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: You can still weigh the same from year one to 534 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: year two to year three, but how that weight is 535 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: distributed could look a lot different. Case in point Darius Robinson, 536 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: we've seen photos of him. He looks like he is 537 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: added muscle, he looks like he's added bulk. But when 538 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: he spoke with Darren Urban at mac Wilson Seniors charity 539 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: basketball game, Darius mentioned that he's weighs almost the same. 540 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: He just has shed body fat. He's redefined his body, 541 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: but maintaining that same weight because you don't want to 542 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: get too big to where all of a sudden you 543 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: lose that explosiveness off the line of scrimmage or for MHJ, 544 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: off the line as far as that first two three 545 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: steps as a wide receiver against the defensive back. So 546 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: you might look a little different, but at the same time, 547 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: you weight might be exactly the same, or you know, 548 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: give or take two or three pounds. 549 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: In college, Darius Robinson m Rvin Harrison Junior both had 550 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: the physical skill sets to outmatch their opponent no matter 551 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: who it was, and there's a reason why those two 552 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: guys went in the first round. Once you make it 553 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: to the NFL, everybody's got the resources to be the 554 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: best and to have the health and body resources to 555 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: maximize your opportunity and to maximize your frame. And that's 556 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: something that with this being the first true offseason for 557 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: both Marvin Harrison Junior and for Darius Robinson, they have 558 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: done their best. They both have lived in the facility 559 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: to not just gain weight, not just to gain muscle, 560 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: but to change their eating habits. Marvin Harrison Junior said, 561 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: he thinks he's eating a lot more now, but it's 562 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: more protein. It's different sort of nutrients that you're putting 563 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: into your body that are helping your frame, that are 564 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: helping your overall health. And it's crazy to think that, 565 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: you know, not having certain types of meals can truly 566 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: shift the trajectory of an NFL football team. But depending 567 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: on what they're putting into their bodies, it is definitely 568 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 2: going to make a difference come Sunday and even on 569 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: a day like today, on a Monday on May nineteens, 570 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: when they walk into the building and Marvin Harrison junior 571 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: sits down at the podium. You could tell a physical difference. 572 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: And that's why they always say that biggest jump a 573 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: player makes is from year one to year two because 574 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: it's your first full offseason within the team structure. You 575 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the banquet circuit or getting 576 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: ready for the combine and not knowing exactly what NFL 577 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: life is like or how to be a pro. You 578 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: learn that in year one, So year two there's no 579 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: more studying, there's no more classes, there's no more homework 580 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: or papers. Your job is football to where it's twenty 581 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: four seven, three sixty five, And that I think is 582 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: what really hits these players in year two to where 583 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I can devote every single minute if I choose to, 584 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: as we heard Marvin say, no days off. Probably good 585 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: to get away every so often just to kind of 586 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: reset everything, but to put all of your energy into 587 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: one thing, and that is football and the game that 588 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: all these players love to play. 589 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: And a good chunk of this team is first year, 590 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: second year, thirty year guys. They are most of them 591 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: have been teammates at some point in their lives, which 592 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: is very rare to see. How to see the connections. 593 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: The football is a small universe, but it reminds you 594 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: just how small it is when Xavier Thomas and Jordan 595 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: Burch are high school teammates and now they're going to 596 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: be competing for snaps in the outside linebacker room. To 597 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: think about how Marvin Harrison Junior lined up across from 598 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Denzel Burke during his time at Ohio State and now 599 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 2: their teammates, and their teammates with one of their biggest 600 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: rivals and Will Johnson, and they also reunite with Paris 601 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: Johnson Jr. It's just the parallels and are remarkable. The 602 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: reason why I bring this up is because you could 603 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: learn from your coaches, you could learn from the strength staff, 604 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: but when you get to learn from your peers, a 605 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: guy like Paris who is kind of that other statesman 606 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: of the young group, the New regime, the Johnathanannon regime, 607 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: he's kind of the face of Jonathan Ganna, Manti Austin. 608 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: For coming in, that's kind of Paris's role and for 609 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: him to come in and he knows how to help 610 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior take that jump from year one to 611 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: year two, which will then ultimately help all the other 612 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: guys when you're able to have that peer warning. There's 613 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: nothing better. 614 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: You brought up something that Marvin said and I thought 615 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: was maybe the most interesting thing that he brought up. 616 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Called him or described himself as humble, but quote, I 617 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: definitely do have a switch which he believes will be 618 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: turned on more. Meaning you need a little bit of 619 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: an ego. You need to be that alpha as a 620 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver something passing game coordinator. Wide receivers 621 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: coach Drew Trell talked about at the end of last 622 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: season that he wanted Marvin to be more of that. Hey, 623 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm Marvin Harrison Junior, and I'm gonna get this ball. 624 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: Not throw me the damn ball Keyshawn Johnson, but I'm 625 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: going to get this ball. This ball belongs to me, 626 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: and out muscle, out physical whoever you're going on up 627 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: against as a defensive back, that football is mine. And 628 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: if you have to come back to the huddle, maybe 629 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: do hey, this pass play, look my direction. I've got 630 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: a step on so and so. Look my direction. Not 631 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: that Kyler doesn't always look at eighteen's direction, but you 632 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of need to be that dog if you will, 633 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: as a number one wide receiver, and it takes. It's 634 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: not something that I think Mahsjay really believes or that's 635 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: not his nature. He's got to come into his own 636 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: and that aspect of his ability as a football play 637 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: well well. 638 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Marvin's career, when has he had to, He's always been 639 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: the guy regardless. You know, from his time at Saint 640 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: Jose Prep. He had that relationship with Kyle McCord over there, 641 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: and they knew there was a reason why they kept 642 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: winning state championships over there with the with the Saint 643 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: Jose Prep Hawks, and then they go to Ohio State 644 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: and look, Marvin Harrison Junior is still the guy. Even 645 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: though he's in a room with Chris Olave and uh 646 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: and Jackson Smith and Jigba and a handful of the 647 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: other players that they had over there at Ohio State. 648 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: Even though he is in that room, Marvin Harrison Junior 649 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: still had that aura. And I think that a lot 650 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: of people, a lot of opposing cornerbacks were always mindful 651 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: of MHJ. Even when the numbers were not flashing off 652 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 2: the paper. Everybody still knew who Marvin Harrison Junior was 653 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: and they were locked in focused on trying to stop eighteen. 654 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: It's not to say Kyler Murray didn't look mhj's way. 655 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: In fact, he always targeted MHJ even in those fifty 656 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: to fifty situations, which is why, going back to our 657 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: earlier point, he has had to put on some of 658 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: that muscle and some of that additional physicality and adding 659 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: that to his mindset, and not just to his mindset, 660 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: but to his game and to his style. Marvin's not 661 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: going to walk into the huddle and say give me 662 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: the damn ball. That's not his mo. But what he 663 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: is going to do is work with Kyler throughout the offseason. 664 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: He's going to be in the facility every single day 665 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: so that when Sundays do come, who is Kyler Murray 666 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: going to trust more than absolutely anybody. It's going to 667 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: be the guy wearing number one eight. And that's what 668 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: they're working on right now is routes on air. And 669 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: know you're not going on one hundred percent, but it's 670 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: the work that you put in here in the offseason 671 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: that you hope pays off once the regular season begins. 672 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: He was asked talking about Marvin any goals and he 673 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: brought up team success. He wants a home playoff game because, 674 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: as he mentioned, he was at State Farm Stadium for 675 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: that playoff game between the Rams and Vikings as a fan, 676 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: but to see two teams, one of those being the 677 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: quote unquote home team, a division rival in the Rams 678 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: as that being their home playoff game didn't sit well 679 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: with Marvin. Didn't sit well with a lot of people. 680 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: We all understand why that was the case. But the 681 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: goal is, and I think you're gonna hear this a 682 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: lot when you hear from players this offseason. When we 683 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: always ask all right, what do you want to accomplish? 684 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, how do you want to get better? 685 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: My guess is ninety nine percent of the time the 686 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: answer is going to be, well, if we play better 687 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: as a team, then yeah, everyone's numbers will go up. 688 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: Team success and it goes back to JG team over you. 689 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: And if you put that, you believe that, then yeah, 690 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: you'll have success. 691 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. Of course, And for 692 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: him to I think that's I think that is a 693 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: good point for Marvin to experience an NFL playoff game, 694 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: to look at what it's supposed to look like, but 695 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be the team that is on the field, 696 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: And for him to say it didn't feel right. If 697 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: it felt right, I would be concerned for for MHJ 698 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: to But but the competitor in these guys knowing that 699 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: they want to be the team that is out on 700 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: the field. I loved how Marvin didn't just say how 701 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: he wants to make it to the playoffs. He said 702 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 2: he wants to have Arizona host a playoff game. He 703 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: wants to win the division, and you could see it 704 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: in his eyes. There was definitely a quiet confidence to 705 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: Marvin in that presser on Monday when he had the 706 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: ability to sit down there and to say, like I 707 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: saw that I wasn't a fan of it that's supposed 708 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: to be us, And because the Cardinals were in talks 709 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: of being that team that was supposed to win the 710 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: NFC West, now they have the chance to run it back. 711 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: And if Marvin continues to be great, I recognize it's 712 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: team over you. But Marvin's personal development will also help 713 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: the team overall. 714 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: The last part about Marvin Harrison Junior, that will be 715 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: completely different in year two. He'll be able to look 716 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: into the stands and see legitimate number eighteen new jerseys, 717 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: not off the rack somewhere offshore, but team issued fanatics 718 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: issued number eighteen jerseys that, as he said, has been situated. 719 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: So now, yes, the availability of Marvin Harrison junior Cardinals 720 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: jerseys are available, which was not the case last season. 721 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: You had to inspire a lot of fans along the way. 722 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 2: And even though he has seen the jerseys out there, 723 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: knowing that he going into year number two, it's no 724 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: longer just the excitement of Marvin Harrison Junior. It's what 725 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: can he bring to the Arizona Cardinals in that second 726 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: year and beyond. And this is you know, you're no 727 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: longer a rookie, You're no longer learning what the NFL 728 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 2: is like. You're gonna learn a lot of things along 729 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: the way, but it's making that jump. And if he 730 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: gets to make that jump and people start to recognize 731 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: the Marvin Harrison junior that went fourth overall and is 732 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: projected to be in one thousand plus yards wide receiver, 733 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: year after year, there's gonna be a lot more jerseys 734 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: and the red, white and the black that are going 735 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: to be popping into the stands wearing that number one eight. 736 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: And if you want one, just cut to the team 737 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: shop or Azycardinals dot Com by your number eighteen. Marvin 738 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior and be at State Farm Stadium this season. 739 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Of course, the home opener is Week two, Sunday, September fourteenth, 740 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers. Last item here on Cardinals Cover 741 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 742 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: is what is going on this week in Minnesota? It 743 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: is the spring league meeting. Owners are discussing a number 744 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: of rules and proposals, some that have been tabled from 745 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: the annual league meeting. But perhaps the most interesting topic, 746 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: and this broke over the weekend, allowing NFL players to 747 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: play flag football in the twenty twenty eight Olympics be 748 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: limited to one player per team to be selected by 749 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: a country. And that's in addition to each team's designated 750 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: international player. And now you're looking at okay, Well, the 751 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics. That's in the summer, that's 752 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: typically right around when training camp begins. And you're absolutely right. 753 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty eight, the Olympic Games are held from 754 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: July fourteenth through the thirtieth, which is literally the start 755 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: of training camp that last week of July. So be 756 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: very curious what the decision if there is a decision 757 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: made this week on whether or not you will see 758 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of players from the NFL, but a 759 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: handful maybe one again, there could be up to thirty two, 760 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: one from each team, and then the question is, all right, 761 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: how do you form an NFL flag football team? So 762 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: I found that intest and that it is going to 763 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: be discussed. I know why the league wants it. I'm 764 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: just curious on how owners feel about having their multi 765 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: million dollar athletes playing flag football before the start of training. 766 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: Case, there's a chance it happens in twenty twenty eight, 767 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: it only happens in twenty twenty eight, depending on how 768 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: it ends up going. Look, it's one of those things 769 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 2: where flag football, especially girls flag football, is the fastest 770 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: growing sport in the United States, and they get to 771 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 2: showcase their dominance and their athleticism to the entire globe. 772 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that you know, there's I'm sure Roger 773 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: is going to be pushing for it, mister Commissioner Goodell, 774 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: because he gets to showcase why the NFL is the 775 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: league in the United States. Basketball has picked up a 776 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: lot of steam overseas. It's always been the case baseball 777 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: as well. Hockey is more of an international sport than 778 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: it is in American sport. But football is America's sport, 779 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: and I think that you get to watch them and 780 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 2: if they are able to do it. I'm not sure 781 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: how the owners are going to feel about it, but 782 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: there's one thing I do know is that they're going 783 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: to be in shape, and that is something that if 784 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: you're an owner, there's a positive there. I would love 785 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: to see flag football make it, but not only. The 786 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: challenges that are going to be the case is flag 787 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: football rules are very different than NFL rules, And on 788 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: top of that, you have a Team USA team already 789 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: for flag football. So how are those guys going to 790 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: handle meshing together with NFL players. It'll be fascinating to 791 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: see what the owners decide. 792 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: Two other items on the agenda revisiting the tush push, 793 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: a proposal to ban the move was tabled during the 794 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: annual league meeting, and then reseeding teams in the playoffs 795 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: after the first round, a proposal by the Detroit Lions. 796 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: Those issues, or at least will come up again, but 797 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: keep in mind any rule change or proposal, in order 798 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: for it to pass, you need twenty four or thirty 799 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: two owners to say yes. So again, something pay attention 800 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: to this week in Minnesota. 801 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: Sixteen sixteen is right now, or at least what it 802 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: was reported to be the case for the touch push. 803 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: We know which way the Arizona Cardinals are going. They're 804 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: not in favor of banning it, and most like I'm 805 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: assuming that because of the fact that Nick Sirianni is 806 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 2: the you know, he's the leader of the touch bush 807 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: and his coaching tree of now Jonathan Gannon, Kellen Moore, 808 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: and Shane Stiken. Nick Sirianni made the joking comment saying 809 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: that they all have got they all have head coaching 810 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: jobs because of the touchbush. I wouldn't necessarily say that's 811 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: the case, but Jonathan Gannon obviously has a lot of 812 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: reverence and respect for Nick Sirianni, and the move is unstoppable, 813 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 2: and the Cardinals did their best also to implement the 814 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: touch bush, so I don't expect the Cardinals to be 815 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: in favor of being in the touchbush. When it comes 816 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: to receding the teams, I can only assume why Detroit 817 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: did it, and it's because the NFC North has been stacked. 818 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Receding is what the NBA does, so I understand it 819 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: the toush push. If you don't like a play, learn 820 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: how to stop it. 821 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 2: Now. 822 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: If you want to say you can't push anywhere on 823 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the field, how Trade McBride scored a touchdown once upon 824 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: a time when he was pushed into the end zone 825 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: from like the seven yard. 826 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: Line against the Baltimore Raven. 827 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: You want to stop pushing and pulling, fine, but don't 828 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: single out one particular play behind the line of scrimmage 829 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: just because one team does it so well and the 830 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: thirty one other teams have found it difficult to stop. 831 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: And I don't like the optics behind the well. It 832 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: could be a play that causes injury. Me walking on 833 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: the street, I'm I'm a clumsy dude. This is gonna 834 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: get clipped. That could that that could have caused injury. 835 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: Hope not. But I'm just saying like, you don't ever 836 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 2: want for there to be injury, and you don't ever 837 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: want to make an uh an example out of a 838 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: play that causes an injury because you never want for 839 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: that to be the case. But football is a physical sport. 840 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 2: It's what you sign up for. I know. Frankie Luvu 841 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: was on was on Good Morning footballf I'm not mistaken. 842 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: He said he's in favor of it. Well, that's because 843 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: he was jumping over the line of scrimmage two a 844 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: different times in the NFC Championship Game. I do believe 845 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: that it's a If they figure out a way to 846 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: keep it and minus and and work around the wording 847 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: of the rule, then fine. But I think the play 848 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 2: itself does not need to be banned. 849 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: We'll see twenty four thirty two. Inners again must approve 850 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: for any rule change or proposal to pass. That's what's 851 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: going on this week in Minnesota. The Spring League meeting 852 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: happening this week. Happening this week. It is the final 853 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: week of Phase two for the Arizona Cardinals. OTAs begin 854 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: the week after Memorial Day weekend. Bottom line is the 855 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: OTAs weren't going to begin until Zach came back from 856 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: his vacation, so all his rights in the world. 857 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 2: We're ready again. Football started. 858 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: Are you sure you're ready? You're rested, well, not quite rested, though. 859 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: I feel bad the fact that you went. You had 860 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: a quote unquote vacation, but you didn't come back resting. 861 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: I'll be okay. The football is what energizes me. That 862 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really excited to wait. I haven't gotten 863 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: the chances to see, you know, the rookies and the 864 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: vets start to mesh together, so be able to watch them. 865 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: When that does happen, it's gonna be very exciting. 866 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: So again, football, as you know, you about the offseason 867 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: and you get from schedule release to OTAs to mini camp, 868 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break, and then training camp, preseason, 869 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: regular season, it's about to get real heavy as far 870 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: as the work that needs to get done in order 871 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: to be ready for the start of the regular season. 872 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: One thousand percent. And now it's no longer in terms 873 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: of speculating where you're gonna be playing, who you're gonna 874 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: be playing, when you're gonna be playing, You now know 875 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: what it's all going to look like. And the clock 876 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: the countdown for the games in the preseason. They're going 877 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: to be playing the Kansas City Chiefs, They're going to 878 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: be playing against the Denver Broncos, the Raiders, which is 879 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: gonna be very weird to watch Pete Carroll on the 880 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: sidelines and not wearing the teal of Seattle, and then 881 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: obviously all the other opponents that the Arizona Cardinals are 882 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: going to face. It's go time. All in with this. 883 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: It's good to have you back in the building. Zach. 884 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. Was it quiet? Yes? Very quiet? Yeah, that's 885 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: what I bring to the table. No longer quiet with 886 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: Zach back in there, right back in it. 887 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this 888 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, probably partner 889 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 890 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Momahundra our associate producer Cuddie Fincher for 891 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: Zach Gershman, I'm pretty real, Lou. We'll talk to you 892 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.