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Speaker 1: What is a Bachelor Happy Hour Listeners, Happy Wednesday. We're

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Speaker 1: glad to be back and like always, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: everything that went down on last night's episode. That is right,

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be back here with you guys. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little happy hour listeners. We have a really fun

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Speaker 1: guest today. It is will a little Willie. I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling I don't know he's gonna really just lay

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Speaker 1: it all out there for us today. I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that has a lot to say. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he does. I mean last night, at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the episode, obviously, the group date was wild. I

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Speaker 1: was laying in bed last night thinking about just everything

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Speaker 1: that went down and thinking about the call signs, and

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Speaker 1: I know that he was coined what it was it

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Speaker 1: little will Little Willie, whatever it was, Little Willie, But

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Speaker 1: I was thinking it might be more fitting to call

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Speaker 1: him free Willy because I'm just thinking about like the

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Speaker 1: coat being thrown in the water, and you know, like

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Speaker 1: the last scene in Free Willie where the like whale

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Speaker 1: jumps out and becomes free and I'm hoping, I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that's well at the end of the yes, will you

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Speaker 1: be there? Oh my God, should this be his theme

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Speaker 1: song when he comes on? Should we bring him into

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Speaker 1: the song? We should recoin him when he comes on,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be like, look, we understand your little Billy,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna call you free Willy, Free Willy. Peter's gone.

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Speaker 1: We have no more, hopefully drama between these two. So

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Speaker 1: will is free or free Willy. I mean he can

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Speaker 1: now be the Willie that he's always wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: But no, no Peter in his damn way. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about some things that went down in this episode. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it was it was kind of intense. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we saw her have an amazing one on one.

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Speaker 1: She had great group dates, which the guys aren't really

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Speaker 1: starting to show their true colors. Do we have your

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Speaker 1: favorites yet? Well, I can tell you who my not

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Speaker 1: favorites are. That's Gene. I guess it's much easier Jamie Peter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you know. Watching this episode, it was interesting because

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Speaker 1: Besides the night with Rodney, I will say like that

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Speaker 1: one on one date went very very well, but the

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Speaker 1: two group dates there was drama, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: overly heightened. I would say, where it's like it were

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Speaker 1: it was hard for a viewer to watch like it was.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this for like a little bit

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Speaker 1: tolerable if you will. Does that make sense? Yes? And

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Speaker 1: I actually felt the same way. I feel like like

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Speaker 1: literally because these guys are not engaging, like it's just

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Speaker 1: that's the difference between this group between a lot of

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Speaker 1: the others, you know what I mean. I feel like

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Speaker 1: with Katie season, a lot of the I's got really

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Speaker 1: things to say, and yeah, this kind of this group

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Speaker 1: he saw, like Nate in between Peter and Will, he

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Speaker 1: was just like sitting there like hmm, no one flinched. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think I feel like most of the men

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Speaker 1: I actually like watching, especially last night, is they kind

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Speaker 1: it briefly, they'll let the men who are in the

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Speaker 1: midst of the drama hash it out. But but what

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Speaker 1: I appreciate with these guys is they don't want to

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Speaker 1: which I appreciate and I wish, I wish. I guess

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Speaker 1: every season the contestants would think about that, because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure just going into this in general,

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Speaker 1: But when the men kind of nip everything in the

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Speaker 1: You know, she doesn't need to be part of this drama.

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Speaker 1: Her week last week was already ruined. I like that

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Speaker 1: Like no, they went straight to him. It was like,

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Speaker 1: also really enjoy how Michelle handles conflict. You can tell that,

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Speaker 1: You can tell she's a teacher and she's honey skills

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Speaker 1: when there's drama happening and fights happening. She uses probably

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Speaker 1: Like I very much enjoy watching her. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and then she makes a decision. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: but they do it every day, like what's that word?

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Speaker 1: What's that word that they practice every day whatever. I

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Speaker 1: in general. It's like, rather than reacting, like, let's see

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Speaker 1: like there's no drinking anything out. She sent Ryan home

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Speaker 1: What did he say? Like, no, like giving the source,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about it and gotta go, not today saying

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Speaker 1: is what Michelle's done every single morning. She said that today,

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Speaker 1: say so her dress, Like she just looks so good

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Speaker 1: we get it? I want to talk about Rodney for

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Speaker 1: First of all, okay, so I saw a man's buns

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Speaker 1: And he had no idea originally that Caitlin and I

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Speaker 1: like this whole relationship just kind of blossomed after this

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Speaker 1: not even gonna lie. Caitlin and I were kind of

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Speaker 1: like almost had a prayer because he's just like, I'm

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Speaker 1: it was just so funny. I don't know how okay,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like that entire day. And when I

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Speaker 1: welcome Will to Bachelor Happy Hour. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Will.

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Speaker 1: How have you been. I've been good, just getting back

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Speaker 1: before we begin, I have to tell you. I know

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Speaker 1: just to see people. After corn and all, we're all talking,

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00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: and then Peters saying some odd things in the limo,

428
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: Peter saying things are off the wall, just to be

429
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: saying in front of guys, off the walls, just to

430
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: say in front of guys that you just met the

431
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: first day. So he's kind of already rubbing me the

432
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: wrong way. We both have very strong personalities. But I'm

433
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: just getting to know the guys, getting to know where

434
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: they're coming from. And one of the guys says their hometown, like, oh,

435
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm from this hometown, and Peter right away it's like, oh,

436
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: your hometown is trash, And I'm like, bro, you just

437
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: don't say that about somebody's hometown, like that person is

438
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: representing their hometown. If you have something against their hometown,

439
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: maybe you could talk to them about it, but just

440
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: don't come at people like that. And then going into

441
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: the house and then just his demeanor. He was the

442
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: loudest guy in the room. I always wanted to be heard.

443
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: Peter was the first one to talk and there the

444
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: last one to close with any talks. He just wanted

445
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: the spotlight on them. So going into the group dates,

446
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm already seeing this. I'm already seeing this guy wants

447
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: all the attention that he could get and he's not

448
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: to step on people's toes. I was one of the

449
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: guys that it is just man, I'm gonna call a

450
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: spade to spade, I'm gonna call it how I see it.

451
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: And because time is limited and I'm seeing how it's going, um,

452
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: drama is cutting into my time. So I'm like, this

453
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: guy has to go. Um. I have to be able

454
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: to get the other guys in the house on my

455
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: side so they know that Peter is a guy that's

456
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: not here for the right reasons. So yeah, when it

457
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: came to that group day, UM, I joked about Peter.

458
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: I threw a jab at Peter. It was kind of

459
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: a joke. It was all funny games. But if I

460
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: if you're gonna crack a joke, you're not going to

461
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: crack a joke about the quietest guy in the room.

462
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna crack a joke on Lee roy or

463
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Lt who haven't said too many things. I'm gonna crack

464
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: a joke on the guy that wants to attention. So

465
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: that's why I wrote name down. Throughout that day, he

466
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: had more opportunities to joke back around with me or

467
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: to pull me aside for for a talk, but that

468
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Peter waits around all day. There's times where

469
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: I ran into Peter. I saw Peter throughout the house throughout,

470
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: and then he waits till nighttime once again because he

471
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: wants that spot, like he wants that attention. He wants

472
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: to see that all the other guys are there watching.

473
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: And he pulls me during that group day and like, hey,

474
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: can we have a talk. When I get up to

475
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: go have a talk, I'm thinking we're gonna go have

476
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: a grown man to man talk, like really dissect and

477
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: get to know each other. So I go over there

478
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: and the first thing he says to me like this

479
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: is just do not say a word and let me

480
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: finish talking. And I'm like, bro, that's not how you

481
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: talk to another man. Like we could easily have a

482
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: mutual conversation. We could have a cordial conversation, but you're

483
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: not gonna talk to me like that. M So I

484
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate just how he came at me from the

485
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: from the beginning, and then from there it just kept

486
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: on escalating. And you guys will see like it just

487
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: keeps going up and up, and this guy's really trying

488
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: to test me and trying to throw me off my game. Well,

489
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that because you know,

490
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: this past week now we see both you and Peter

491
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: on the top Gun date, which I think you made

492
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: the comment You're like, I'm sick of going on group

493
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: dates with Peter. Yeah, but you know that tension between

494
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: the two of you carried over into that date. Now,

495
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: maybe chalk it up to the fact that he got

496
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: upset that you know, he spoke Italian and then you

497
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: spoke Spanish, and then you had the combat fight where

498
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: you knocked him off a couple of times. I'm sure

499
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: things just kept building. But from the week before, from

500
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: that interaction, I guess that argument that you had when

501
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: Michelle heard you yelling at that first group date cocktail party,

502
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: was there any alleviation between the two of you. Did

503
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: you hash it out and kind of squash it and

504
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: put it to bed or did It just kept festering.

505
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: It just kept festering, and we didn't get to hash

506
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: it out at all. And then like he really played

507
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: more into it and trying to get more of the

508
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: guys on his side. So the next day, I remember

509
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: he was in the house telling more of his story,

510
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: more of his like his side of things and whatnot.

511
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: But it's just like I understand, Peter. We all have

512
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: a story, we all have a place where we come

513
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: from and what makes us who we are today. But

514
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ease that to my advantage to

515
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: either to have people feel sorry for me or to

516
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: even get more time. And that's what where I feel

517
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: like he was going with that. He was just like, Okay,

518
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel for you, Peter, but we all have tough backgrounds,

519
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: we all have things that we had to overcome in life.

520
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Just don't use that to get more time or to

521
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: get more guys on your side. That was my biggest thing,

522
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: and it just it keeps going. He's throwing jabs at

523
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: me on the group day. He says that I cheat

524
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: when I knock him off the platform. Several times, the

525
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: rules were explained and they were playing and simple, once

526
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: the whistle blows, you attack your opponent, and when the

527
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: whistle blue, I did just that, Like I went after her,

528
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: and it felt good. Honestly, it felt good to do

529
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: it within the rules of the game and do it

530
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: in that manner because there was tension there. There was

531
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: tension there from the week prior. And but at the

532
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: end of the day, he still think that I didn't

533
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: deserve the jacket, that I cheated. But at the end

534
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: of the day, I came out mister Maverick. I mean, yeah,

535
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: you definitely let that anger intention come out and really

536
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: kind of just let him have it, which I do agree.

537
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: You run fair and square, and so at the end

538
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: of the day, like you really did earn that jacket,

539
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: and that's something that you said. At the end of

540
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: the day, He's like, I earned that, Like why is

541
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: he trying to take that away from me? Did Peter

542
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: has any other issues with any other guys in the house?

543
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Which did? It seems like he was just kind of

544
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: picking on you. I was the main guy that he

545
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: was targeting. Other guys did have issues with Peter, they

546
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: just weren't as vocal. I was just the guy that

547
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: was the most vocal, Like I was the guy telling

548
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: the guys, calling him out for what I saw and

549
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: sharing my thoughts. I was the one that was pretty open.

550
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of the guys came up to me

551
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: when we had bro talks and they were like, dude,

552
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: like this guy just won't shut up. I know. One

553
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: of those guys was lt. LT came up to me

554
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: and you hear him in one of his interviews like

555
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: this guy just won't shut up. And that's how it

556
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: was for all of us. The very first day. A

557
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: lot of people liked his energy because he did bring

558
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: a lot of energy. But then throughout more days people

559
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: are like, okay, Peter, like tone it down. This is

560
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: a little bit too much at this point. Yeah. Well,

561
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: it happens really quickly when you start to see people's

562
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: like true colors unfortunately, and maybe this just wasn't the

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: right environment for him. Yeah, it's a rough environment. I mean,

564
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: and we've talked about just everything's kind of stacked against you.

565
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: It's just not a normal setting way to date to

566
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: begin with, and you know, adding lack of sleep and

567
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, not really having a set schedule and everyone's

568
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: trying to viy for one female's attention. It gets heated

569
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: really fast. It's hard to kind of keep, you know,

570
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: once things are fester, and it's hard to keep those tensions,

571
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, to a minimum. Obviously, we saw things really

572
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: explode after the Maverick date when he ended up taking

573
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: your bomber jacket, and prior to him taking that, you

574
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: guys had exchanged some words, you know. Take us back

575
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: to the mindset when you were I think it was

576
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: you and Peter, and then I believe Nate was in

577
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: between you. It was like the three of you guys

578
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: sitting and you and Peter were going back and forth,

579
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of sitting there sipping his drink,

580
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Like what the hell am I in the middle of um?

581
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Take us back to your mindset in that moment where

582
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: you just kind of over it. Were you like, I'm

583
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: not gonna let him get to me. I'm not gonna

584
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: let him win. Like what were you feeling in that moment?

585
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: I had? It was a lot, honestly that I had

586
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. It's just like I wasn't

587
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna let him win, but he just kept going. At

588
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: one point time, I got fed up, and it's just like, dude,

589
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: like this enough, but we did keep going and it

590
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: was just yeah, it was a mix of emotions. I

591
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: was just like I was ready to have that begun

592
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: because every time I to Michelle, I had to deal

593
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: with Peter right before. And this is like I came home.

594
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: I wanted mister Maverick, I'm having a good day. Michelle

595
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: is noticing that I'm willing to survive and put myself

596
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: through the danger zone to be with her. So I

597
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: wasn't really out. I was going into the mindset just

598
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: like this is a good day, My mental is good,

599
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: is clear, I'm on a high. I just wanted the day,

600
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and then I didn't want to deal with Peter right

601
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: before I went to talk to Michelle again. So at

602
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: the same time, it's just like I had to handle it.

603
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: But it's just like I wanted to go in and

604
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: talk to Michelle with a clear head because that affected

605
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: me that every time I got to talk to her,

606
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: like the very first two times, it was just like

607
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I had to deal with Peter right before, and then

608
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: that was kind of throwing me off where it didn't

609
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: feel like I was putting my best foot forward. And

610
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: Michelle is one of those people that she's able to

611
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: read your energy and she's able to read if you're upset,

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: and it's just like it took me away from me

613
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: being will for me being that funny, goofy guy that

614
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: loves kids, is that that loves to impact people, and

615
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: I didn't like that within myself. So like, well you'll

616
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: see that I'm arguing with Peter and then heated conversation,

617
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: but then I started to calm down a little bit more.

618
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: It's just like this is not worth it, and I

619
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: do this. I kind of waved my hand like trying

620
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: to wave it off, and it's just he keeps on

621
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: going and then it just escalates from there. I'm safe

622
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: broke my heart watching you walk away, because like you,

623
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: like the guys are trying to comfort you, and you're

624
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: like I appreciate that, but like I'm gonna just have

625
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: to step away for a minute. And I feel like

626
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: that really just goes to show your character as opposed

627
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: to like going straight to him and like just again

628
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: escalating the situation. You know, I wasn't trying to get

629
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Peter excuses earlier, like talking about the environment obviously, but

630
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say, like, your true character ends

631
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: up showing and for you. Thank you. You are a

632
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: better man and I really appreciate that. Yeah, it seems

633
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: like I mean we could tell an immutations as we

634
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: felt for you. I mean, it just seemed so overwhelming,

635
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: and it seemed like you were in such a hard

636
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: predicament because you know, there's this drama happening. Your personal

637
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: property was taken and damaged, which to begin with, is

638
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: not okay. And then the fact that you don't want

639
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: to bring that to the girl you're dating. You don't

640
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: want to ruin her night. And you know, I'm sure

641
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: you wanted to be able to open up and confide

642
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: in her, but you didn't want to bring that drama

643
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: to her. So you were in a tough spot. How

644
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: did you feel with the other guys, because well, first

645
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: out of all, I want to know, who how did

646
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: you find out when you walked back that Peter had

647
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: thrown your jacket into the pool. And obviously after that happened,

648
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: the other men didn't seem to find it funny. I

649
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: mean they kind of had to talk you down a

650
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: little bit to be like, be the bigger man, you know,

651
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: don't bring this to her attention. So what were they

652
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: all saying to you when you came back after talking

653
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: with her and finding out about the coat. I believe

654
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: one of the guys that told me was either Nate

655
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: or Spencer. When I came back to a sitting area

656
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: and they were just like shaking their head. I could

657
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: see her look like something just tragic just happened. And

658
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm coming back from like getting a drink or something.

659
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I think I was just getting water and they're like

660
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: doing something just happened, like Peter took your jacket. I

661
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: was like, okay, like where's it? And then one of

662
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: them is like, oh, people through it in a pool.

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: And then I could see the look on their faces

664
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: like that was really messed up that Peter did that

665
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: and he took it to that extent. And then that's

666
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: when you start seeing the shift of the guys, like, Okay,

667
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Will is in the right, Will is the guy that

668
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: trying to be the bigger man. I think Martin comes

669
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: up to me and he's like he's one of the

670
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: guys that was kind of like in between. He was

671
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: like not on Peter's side, not on Will's side. But

672
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: then that night I remember him coming up to me

673
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: like I'll see what you see like he's seeing it

674
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: through my lens. Now, same thing with Nate. Nate comes

675
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: in and Nay tells me like yo, that that was

676
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: really messed up and even apologized to me and Spencer

677
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: and Nay I know, I remember, they're one of the

678
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: guys that where they're trying to keep me composed through

679
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the whole the whole situation. But like you guys said,

680
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I did not want to bring it to Michelle. It

681
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: was something that I thought I I can handle on

682
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: my own as a man with Peter and time is limited.

683
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I did not want to spend my time with Michelle

684
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: talking about Peter at all. Like every time about Michelle,

685
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I was trying to forget about Peter. I didn't want

686
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: to talk to about Peter. So and the night prior

687
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: to that, Michelle went through a lot. Like you guys said,

688
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: she had to cancel the cocktail party. Where I come

689
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: from is like you handle things as man and then

690
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: you can move forward. This something, It was something between

691
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: me and Peter. It was in between Peter and I

692
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: and Michelle. It became that way once he damaged the

693
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: property because that was something that was gifted to me

694
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: by Michelle. This is another night. I did not want

695
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: to ruin her night. I felt like I could have

696
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: dealt with it on my own, and that's what I did.

697
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: I just stayed composed, and I was like, Hey, let

698
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: me sleep on it. Let me see how I can

699
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: address this situation and the best and the best way

700
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: possible where it doesn't affect me anymore and it doesn't

701
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: affect her. My thoughts was just like, Hey, I gotta

702
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: protect her. She had a rough night before. I'm not

703
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: going to ruin this night again just because Peter is

704
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: pushing my buttons. Did anyone I know that night we

705
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: saw you kind of take a step back, and you

706
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: obviously did not bring that to her attention. Do you

707
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: did anyone at any point before the next Row ceremony

708
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: mentioned it to her? Did she have any idea? Yes?

709
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: And this is my guy, one of the guys that's

710
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: just like one of my bros throughout the shows. Um,

711
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: we're probably bros for life. And now Brandon Jay. So

712
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Jay take some of his time at the Rose

713
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: ceremony and he briefly tells her. He briefly tells her like, Hey,

714
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: there's some guys in the house that are picking on

715
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: other guys that are just throwing them off their theirselves

716
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and they're just like it needs to be addressed. And

717
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Brandon was my roommate, so Brandon was really able to

718
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: see from from a whole different perspective that you guys

719
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: are seeing and the people in the hospital are seeing,

720
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: how it was affecting me, because that's right at the

721
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: end of the day, that's who who I got to

722
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: talk to. That's the guy that was there like trying

723
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: to trying to talk to me and keep me level

724
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: headed throughout the whole, throughout the whole process. And he

725
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: was the one, which I was very appreciative of, that

726
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: took his time to tell Michelle like, Yo, there's there's

727
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: some things going on in the house that need to

728
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: be addressed today. M Yeah, it's so big of him, honestly,

729
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: especially talking about some you know, the drama in the house,

730
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: but also at the same time, like you know, he

731
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: has your back, and it's I'm glad that he also

732
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't like make a big deal at the Rose ceremony.

733
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: It could have taken away a lot from you guys,

734
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: but um, at least you know you have like this

735
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: guy's watching out for you. And at the end of day,

736
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: she got rid of Peter at the road ceremony. How

737
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: did that feel when she didn't give him the rose?

738
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean it was between him, when it wasn't the

739
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: last rose down to him. Yeah, the last rose was

740
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: down to him and a few other guys. But it

741
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: just felt good. It felt good. I felt a sense

742
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: of relief, just like like I could finally show more

743
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: size to Will. Like there's so much size to Will.

744
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: There's so much I have to offer, and I feel

745
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: like we have so much in common that she hasn't

746
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: been able to see or really dissect just because I've

747
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: been dealing with this. So this week is like we

748
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: really is here, really is super happy and he's ready

749
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: to go in Um, We're going and like attack the week.

750
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: I was so excited that he was gone. It was

751
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: It was probably one of the best things that happened there,

752
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and it was just what I needed, honestly to continue

753
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: with my journey. Yeah, it's like you don't have that

754
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: cloud looming over your head anymore. Absolutely, Yeah, you don't

755
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: have enough to deal with exactly. Okay, So the row

756
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: ceremony there was it was finally the first time that

757
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Michelle was aware that I guess, not Michelle, but that

758
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: the men were aware that Jamie was the one who

759
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: had confronted her last week and you know, brought up

760
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: the fact that people were questioning her and her character

761
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: and that, you know, potentially she had something with Joe

762
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: prior to coming on the show. Were you surprised to

763
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: find out that it was Jamie who told her? And

764
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I guess, like, what was that atmosphere like when Nate

765
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: and some of the other men started to confront him

766
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: about it. It was very intense and Jamie it was intensive.

767
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: It was kind of uncomfortable, honestly, because Jamie was just

768
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: like talking in circles and kind of dodging a lot

769
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: of the questions. And he's very good at that. He's

770
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: you you'll see that, Yeah, very good at diverting the

771
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: questions and changing it to something else. So it got

772
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: to that point where we were just like, dude, you're

773
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: just not answering what we're asking. And he ended up

774
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: walking away for a little bit, I think, to get

775
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: a drink or something. But I got it very intense

776
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: and it was very uncomfortable, and I was very upset

777
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: because Jamie was one of the guys that was like, dude,

778
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: just go talk to Peter, and he was kind of

779
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: like trying to like little BROMI like trying to tell me, like, dude,

780
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: just be the bigger man. I'm like, I'm trying to

781
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: be the bigger man. But Peter is still pushing my

782
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: buttons and he disrespected me. So Jamie I was upset that.

783
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: It was just like, dude, you're trying to tell me

784
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: to do the right things, but then you go and

785
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: do this right. It's like, and I'm trusting him at

786
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: this point in time. I'm it's a lot going on

787
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: my mind. I'm like, Jamie, Jamie is a good dude

788
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: from a good background and all that kind of stuff.

789
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm trusting him some second guests

790
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: and everything. And then to find out that Jamie's the

791
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: one that started this rumor. Jamie's the one that feels

792
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: insecure that she knew Joe before. It like hit me

793
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: like a truck. So I'm like questioning Jamie. I come

794
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: up to Jamie several times, but it's just like it

795
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable and I ended up like walking away from

796
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: him a few times because he was dodging the questions.

797
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: He was talking in circles, and we were just like, dude, dude,

798
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: do you want to be here? Like are you even

799
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: secure who you are within yourself? Why? Why did you

800
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: need to do this? Why we are dealing with so

801
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: much in the bubble. It's like, why bring outside things

802
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: into the bubble? Like, okay, if you read this, if

803
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: you heard that, um, don't address in the bubble Like

804
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: we were already so under so much stress and then

805
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: trying to do this, trying to speed day and trying

806
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: to get to know Michelle. It's just like we none

807
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: of us understood why he brought that rumor in and

808
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: why did he feel like it was going to be

809
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: something that he needed to use for for the conversation.

810
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was trying to tell Michelle

811
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: or see if Michelle like saw that he was like

812
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: trying to look out for her, but it didn't turn

813
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: out that way and then it ended up buying him

814
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: in the butt. Yeah, how did you feel watching the

815
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: episode back and then like hearing what Jamie had to

816
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: say about some of you and the guys really putting

817
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: you guys down, And to be honest, we it is crazy.

818
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: It is it is watched it watching those episodes like

819
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: that's not how Jamie talked in front of the guys

820
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: when he's like he's one of the best guys there

821
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: and he feels like he has like a leg up.

822
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: He says something along those sides where he just felt

823
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: like he was the best dude there. But during the

824
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: whole group like when we're in the group setting, Jamie

825
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that was just like, Yo,

826
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: this is so great. What we're gonna get to take

827
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: away from this experience? Like, think about it, guys, just

828
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: like we're here with a great group of men, and oh,

829
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: we could each pick something from each guy and become

830
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: met or man ourselves. And that was his whole outlook,

831
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: and we were like, we're all thinking like, oh, he's

832
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: a good dude. He's a good dudes. To watch his

833
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: interviews now, it's just like, Yo, I don't know Jamie

834
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: like I thought I kind of knew Jamie. But there's

835
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: two different sizes to Jamie. And I'm able to see

836
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: that now because he's saying he's saying some things in

837
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: his views that he didn't have the courage to come

838
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: up and say it to the guys or in the

839
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: whole group of guys, you know who Jamie is. Jamie

840
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: is Regina George from Mean Girls, where he'll go up

841
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: with somebody and be like, that is the cutest skirt

842
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I've ever seen? Where is it from? And then the

843
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: person turns away and he goes, that's the ugliest effing

844
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: skirts I've ever seen. It seems like he has like

845
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: this superiority complex where he just feels like he is better.

846
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: Like he you know, even in his interviews, he made

847
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: it seem like he is a step ahead of all

848
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: of you guys, and that he has everything in the

849
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: bag and that you guys, none of you guys are

850
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: on the same level as him. And so now knowing

851
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: how he was to all of your faces in a

852
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: group setting and maybe even in one on one settings,

853
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: and then seeing how he talks about you in the

854
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: interviews and away from you all, have you confronted him

855
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: like over the phone? Has anyone brought that up to him?

856
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Like where do you stand with him now? Um? No, nobody.

857
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has confronted him. I haven't confronted Jamie. Um.

858
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: It was something that Michelle handled and she had the

859
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: right away. Um, she had like a queen. But I

860
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: did not confront Jamie at all after that. But it's

861
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: just like I'm able to see who Jamie is for

862
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: his true colors, and I'm able to be aware of

863
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: that and keep my distance. But um, I don't know

864
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: if anybody else addressed it. I didn't feel like it

865
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: was for me to address it. Um, when I do

866
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: see him, I feel like I would say something to him,

867
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: like because it did take away from from our time,

868
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: and that's something that we're all fighting for, is just time.

869
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: And this is another road ceremony where you see Michelle

870
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: upset and it's like every time she was upset, it

871
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: got to us. It got to me. It got to

872
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: me that it's just like she's upset again. Why why

873
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: are we keep doing this? This is supposed to be

874
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: a happy experienced. It's supposed to be where we finally love.

875
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: Why are we bringing it down? Why are we bringing

876
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: her down to the point where she's in tears or

877
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: she feels like her characters being question It's just like

878
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: if you if you're going to question her character, why

879
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: is he even sign up? Like I signed up just

880
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: because I knew who Michelle was. I was able to

881
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: see a little bit of like Matt season too, when

882
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: they told me I was going to go on to

883
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: see what type of woman she was, And that's why

884
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: I was here because of Michelle. So if you're gonna

885
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: question it, if you're gonna question the process, you're gonna

886
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: question her, then you might as well just walk out.

887
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: And you see that that Michelle, like a true queen,

888
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: just handles her shit and walks them out. M hm.

889
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: I was saying, men to that, I, like a true queen.

890
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: Is right. Well, now that Jamie's gone, can you give

891
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: us a one sentence teaser of what's to come this

892
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: season and what we could possibly expect now that the

893
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: drama might be out of the way, can you give

894
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: us a little taste was coming? Um? Yeah, oh shoo,

895
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: let me see. I don't know if we should be

896
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: excited or nervous. For me, like for my personal experience,

897
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: I was excited because this is like, this is where

898
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: I felt like I could finally get in full stride,

899
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: like I could finally there's we're getting rid of the snakes,

900
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: we got rid of Ride, we got rid of Peter,

901
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: we got got rid of Jamie. So it's like, Okay,

902
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we have a good group of guys. Now,

903
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: I feel like we have true generale guys that want

904
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: to be there for the right reasons. But then um

905
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: more more guys, more more than true colors start showing,

906
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: and it's it's very hard because, like, if you don't

907
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: know who you are going through this, a lot of

908
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: your flaws start to show quickly because you are around

909
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: a lot of big dudes, alpha males. There's a lot

910
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: of strong personalities. So you really have to be confident

911
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: within your own skin to be able to navigate in

912
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: that type of world. Because if if you are questioning

913
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: who you are, your character or who who you are

914
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: within the group of guys, we're able to see that.

915
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: And it's just it's more snakes. That's what I'm going

916
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: to see, more snakes. So Grass cut low and get

917
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: rid of them. One by one, guys, the best one rin,

918
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Are you going to have given up? Oh my god,

919
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean, I know that you both

920
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: were there, you lived through much of it, but I

921
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: have no idea what's to come. I cannot wait. I

922
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: mean just that one sentence alone, Goldrum, and I can't

923
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: wait to see more of you before we let you go.

924
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: We love to play our games on Bachelor Happy Hours.

925
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a little bachelorette superlatives. So basically,

926
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you just a most likely to example

927
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: and then you'll just have to finish the sentence with

928
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: the name of someone in Michelle's group of guys that

929
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: you think best fits and it just can be rapid

930
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: fire and have fun with it. And if it's you,

931
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you can say you any of the names. Um, it's

932
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: fair games. So Tasha, you want to kick it off,

933
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah? Okay. So most likely to get

934
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: the party started. Uh, Ronnie Ronnie Rodney fans of Rodney. Okay.

935
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: Most likely to start the drama. Peter Pizza. Wait did

936
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: he ever make pizza for you guys? Did anyone try

937
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: any No, he just dropped the dough on the floor.

938
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Yeah he never did. He wanted to so bad and

939
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: missed opportunity one day he poisoned your piece. Wat Okay.

940
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Most likely to get the guys laughing. Um, let me see,

941
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: let me see. There's a few funny guys within the group.

942
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm has to go with the Ronney again. The Ronnie

943
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Ronnie was good vibes, good vibes to be around, and

944
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: I was around Rodney. My cheeks for her, like my

945
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: cheeks were her just for laughing or huge Rodney fans

946
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: at least. I I don't want to speak flirtation, but

947
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, ready, who is most likely to start a

948
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: dance party? The dance party? Oh, let me see. I

949
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: would say Leroy. Leroy is like a quiet least. He's

950
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: a smooth hacker. He's so smooth and such a clever

951
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: dude that I would say Leroy Lero has that little

952
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: swack to him that I hope you guys get to

953
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: see in the upcoming episodes. Leroy hold a note on us, buddy,

954
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay. Most likely to cheat to win

955
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: a group date? Most likely to cheat to win a

956
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: group date? Um, I'm gonna say Spencer because during the

957
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: whole Mister Maverick we had to do, we had to

958
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: do pushups and Spencer was holding his pushups as I

959
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: was doing my pushups, so he was kind of cheating

960
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: trying to beat me in the push up competition. Oh,

961
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I got to see that firstand so I was a Spencer.

962
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: But Spencer is a good dude, but he was trying

963
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: to do what he had to do. To in a

964
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: date jug Who was most likely to steal Michelle first

965
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: at a cocktail party? Um, most likely to steal her first, Jamie.

966
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Jamie was the guy that, like first night, stole her first,

967
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I would say Jamie, Okay. Most likely

968
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: to skinny dip in the pool. Um, I would say

969
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel Tooley Daniel. Most likely to go to bed

970
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: first first. That was me. That was I was trying.

971
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: I was so tired like some of the days, but

972
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: I was just having so much fun, like every time

973
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: I got on a group day. That is that I was.

974
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I was exhausted a lot of times, and I was

975
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: one of the guys that's just like, okay, what else

976
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: do we have to do? And I was just trying

977
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: to get my minoring. I was just trying to get

978
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: good rest so I could put my best foot forward.

979
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Most likely to change lives one slice at a time. Oh,

980
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he has changes the lives one look

981
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: plays at a time. That's what I'm trying to say.

982
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Let's I gotta say. I want

983
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: to try this pizza just to see what the hype's

984
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: all about. Me too, I want to try it. But

985
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: I want to see it being made because the preparation

986
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: behind it. Oh God, he wants to make sure it's

987
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: not all you know, Oh it's all clean ingredients. You

988
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I get again a fresh clean ingredients, vegan,

989
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: gluten free exactly. Will It has been such an absolute

990
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on and just getting to know you

991
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Like I said at the beginning,

992
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: this is why we love having guys from the season on,

993
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: because we actually get to know you for you and

994
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: just you know, see the men behind the screen. So

995
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: thank you for joining Happy Hour today. Absolutely, thank you

996
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: guys for having me. I was a pleasure and I

997
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: had fun doing this. Yeah, get seeing you again. Have

998
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: a good fun, do you guys? It has been an

999
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: absolute pleasure. Thank you to our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners

1000
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: for tuning in, and a huge thank you to free

1001
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,960
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1002
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1003
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1004
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1006
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1007
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1008
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1009
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