WEBVTT - Putting My Breast Foot Forward with Dr. Terry Dubrow 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.719 Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.360 Can we talk about my boobs? 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:17.840 Yeah? Yeah? 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:18.439 Sure? Why not? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.400 No? No, I mean, so, what's what's the story. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:31.160 Okay, So I have had three implants surgeries implant surgeries, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.040 and I just they're too big, they're heavy, they pull, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.720 like I just pull down my neck. But I'm also 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.120 like I don't know, I don't I got So I 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.559 was doing a podcast interview with Bunny Exo and she 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.560 brought up b I I and I was like. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:50.760 What's that? 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.080 And breast illness? 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:54.200 Yeah. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.040 I was like a BBL or BBL what am I getting? 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.680 And She's like, no, it could be. So I was like, 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.280 I do you remember there was a phase where everyone 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.720 was like, oh, I feel sick from my implants And 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.440 people were like, no, that's you know, not true. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:10.959 Is that a thing? Is it real? 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.440 So it depends who you ask. If you ask a 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.319 bunch of board certified plastic surgeons, they might tell you 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.840 it really isn't necessarily a thing. But my view on this, 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.199 if you know there's enough people telling you that they're 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.120 having an issue and they've had breast implants, I think 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.959 there's probably something to it. Okay, the problem plastic surgeons 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.920 have with this BII breast implan illness thing is that 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.120 if you have breast implann illness from either leaking implants 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.480 or you know, micro bleeding into the tissues, that's getting 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:52.160 into your system and affecting your immune function. Theoretically, if 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.080 you take them out, all breast implan illness should probably 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.920 go away. And it doesn't necessarily work that way. You know, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.559 if there's a virus causing a disease or a bacteria 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.720 and you kill the bacteria in the virus, you tend 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.640 to get one hundred percent of people get better. Right. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.960 It's that that's why the science of breast implant illness 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.840 is a little tricky. Having said that, if a patient 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.960 comes in with all the classic signs of breast implantailis, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.320 which is fatigue and joint pain and hair falling out 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.720 and skin changes, and they've had silicone implants for a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.040 long time, what you should do is say, you know, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.920 why don't you go get an MRI and see if 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.160 they're ruptured. And then if they're ruptured, you say, all right, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.920 you know you're ruptured, so let's take them out. And 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.720 then you have to figure out do we want to 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.520 put a pair back in, or do we leave them 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.440 out because you may or may not have had breast 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.240 implant illness. And then if they're not ruptured, it's when 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.160 it's really tricky because you go, well, they're not ruptured, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.160 so how did it give you breast implant illness? Right? 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.400 I mean why you would say, well, because the immune 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.000 systems overreacting to your breast implants. And you say all right, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.520 and you give them the option. You say, well, the 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.839 data is not really there, just like it's not there 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.080 for peptides, and we still do speptize. But you say, look, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.440 these are your options. We could take them out, keep 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.240 them out for a while, right and see whether you 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.920 get better, Or we could take them out, take the 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.320 capsule out because maybe there's some micro bleeding into the capsule, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.560 and put a new pair back in, which might be 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.520 objectionable because you know, we're putting the same thing back 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.400 in that may have caused the breast implannels. It's really unclear. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.080 What I can tell you, in my opinion is there 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.440 are a few doctors out there who use it as 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:41.520 a marketing tool and they advertise this n block capsule 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.240 ectomy for breast implant as well. If you come to me, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.360 I'm going to do a special procedure where I'm going 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.040 to take all of the implant and the capsule and 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.080 a lot of the surrounding tissue and leave them out 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.440 and I'm going to cure you. Well, there isn't any 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.800 science for that, and so I wouldn't necessarily fall into 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.680 that end block capsule to me thing either, because that's 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.440 a big operation. It changes the way your breasts look, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.360 and if you decide to do something in the future, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.560 it can make more difficult because youve remove so much 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.240 breast tissue and blood supply. So this is one of 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.600 those very tricky things where you want to go if 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.640 you think you're having the symptoms, but you're not having symptoms, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.560 are you? Do you have fatigue and brain fog? Your 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.560 hair falls out? Doesn't look like your hair falling out? 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.720 Well, well, thank god for extensions. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.960 No, I've never lost my hair, but I so here's 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.320 the interesting thing. When I was about twenty five years old, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:41.480 I remember that I just started feeling like brain fog, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:46.680 almost like I was disassociated, like in a bubble like looking, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.560 and I was like, what's happening. I remember going to 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.880 doctors being like I'm twenty five, and I feel inside 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.240 like I'm eighty like I before that. I mean, I 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.280 mean I started working really young, and we were working. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.279 Crazy hours, but I used to like work out. I 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:01.960 would I. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.560 Would film nine O two and zero for like fourteen hours, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.359 be on set all day, and be home at like 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.240 eight o'clock at night and go to my trainer and 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.200 work out. I'm super into it. And then at one 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.760 point I just lost all energy. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.479 Yeah, well, how long did you have Did you have 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.800 silicon resting plants? Then? 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.440 So my first set were sailing and that was when 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:31.600 I was like nineteen, okay, twenty right, My second ones 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.680 were silicone, and that's when I was twenty five. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.000 So you hadn't had it that long and you were 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.320 having maybe some of that stuff then. I don't know, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.640 you know, the first the differential diet, the thing I 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.560 would put you know, do you have mono? Do you 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:52.960 have hypothyroidism? Are you exhausted under pressure from Hollywood? You know, 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.160 which is probably. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.080 From five kids? 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.600 Well not at twenty five, not at twenty five. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.719 Oh, at twenty five's right? 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.360 No, at twenty five you were having some of this stuff, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.640 right right? Yeah, So at twenty five, I think you 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.839 know you're shooting, You're under pressure, you're under a microscope. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.760 I think that affects. I can't even imagine. Even in 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.960 the environment in which you grew up, which was very 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.600 comfortable being in the Hollywood mill, you you still were on. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.159 You were on a massive microscope. That's a lot of pressure. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.800 Whether you felt it or not, I mean, it just is. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.880 You must have felt it. And plus sure you're telling 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.280 me people are constantly common even back then they were 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.359 commenty right, which you had. Yeah, I think it's you know, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.760 I think stress can manifest in many many ways. I 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.320 doubt you were having pressed in planet illness. But you 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.719 you have silicon now, yes, okay, So just to get 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.920 to it, you have silicone and a third time okay? 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.880 And were they ever encapsulated or you just changed them 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.200 out because it was time to change them out. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:07:00.560 They were expired and recalled Oh yeah, textured probably, Yeah, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.640 the textured ones they were associated. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.159 They are associated with this called thing called AlCl, which 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.840 is anaplastic large cell and foma, which is a weird 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.440 kind of cancer they can cause, which is super super rare. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.200 But if you have the textured silicone implants, it's recommended 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.160 that you take them out and switch them out for smooth. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.920 Okay, well I have them here, yeah, brought them. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.680 Oh you have them. They took them out, so they 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.160 weren't intact if you have them, and I wonder if 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:31.440 they have a rough surface to it. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.440 They do, since they do, Yes, that's what that's. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.880 Why they were recalled. So now now you have smooth 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.440 ones and they're probably soft. They're just too big. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.280 Yeah, they're too big. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.520 And the surgeon that did it this time, and I 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.000 waited so long, I got it done in twenty twenty one. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:53.200 He was so great, and I just felt like what 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:54.560 he did say, what. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.480 Do you want? Do you want medium or profile? 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:02.000 Correct? Low? Low media or high profile? Yeah? 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.920 And he said the ones you've always had. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.200 I mean at this point when I got the other 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.600 ones taken out, they were expired recalled and the heart 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.200 is a rock. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.120 Oh you were encapsulated. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:16.280 Okay, yes, yes, And I have a bone thing. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.840 That this excav attom I have. It goes in or 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:25.960 it goes out, it goes out. Oh that's pectus caronadum. No, wait, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.520 goes in right. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.800 So it looks like people are like, what's that gap 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.400 between her boobs and I'm like, it's my bone thing. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.600 It's high here, but it goes in. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.600 Like even when I was five years old, it looked 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.640 like i'd clean yes, yes, yes, okay. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.640 That's pectus escabottom yeah yeah yeah. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.520 So people shame me all the time, like look how 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.520 bad our boob job is. And I'm like, guys, I 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:48.680 have like a bone thing. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.520 It's genetic too, like yeah, people are so mean. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.400 But anyway, okay, so he put he he did say 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.600 it's going to change. So the other ones were really 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:06.520 high and stuck out. These are really flat but are wide, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:14.000 and I, ohfile, they're so heavy and when I fluctuate 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.040 and wait like I was, I was sick with sinus 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.920 stuff for like two months, so I you know, wasn't 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.560 mobile as much as I usually am, and I you know, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.440 I gained I think twenty five pounds back and I 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.120 was like, I like it everywhere else, but my boobs 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.440 got it too, and then they got even bigger, and 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.680 I'm just like, I'm miserable with them. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.240 So if they're soft, are they soft? 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:41.520 Let me check? 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.000 But I mean they're not hard like they were right. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.240 They're not hard, but they put that mesh bra. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.760 In okay, okay, good, So but I see the ripples, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.600 so did it work? 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:51.439 Did it not work? 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.880 And it doesn't hold me up the mesh bra huh? 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.560 Well, I think you know clearly if they're too big 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.800 you need to go small. The question is at some point, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.720 and you know you'll know, you measure. You compare the 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.240 nipple height to the crease where your breast meets your abdomen, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:15.360 you know, the inframammary crease. If the nipples below it, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.560 which it probably isn't if it's below it at some point, 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.040 here's the problem. If you want to downsize them a lot, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.120 it can make them more droopy. And at some point 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.760 you downsize them too much, you have to get a lift. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.280 And the problem with a lift is the scars that 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.240 go around and down, you know, and so you know 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.960 the anchor scar. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.040 Yeah, okay, So that's why I didn't want to go 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.880 too small or take them out. At the time, I 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.439 wasn't comfortable. I was like, oh, it's going to be 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.000 a big scarp. But is there an alternative or that. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.240 Is the scar. So unfortunately, we're still at the place 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.040 where if downsizing them results in a lot of droopiness 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.839 because of the loose skin. You know, you might have 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.120 to do a lift unless you're willing to accept some 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:14.239 through penis. It really depends on the degree of right. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.240 I mean, one of the reasons I got them done 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.320 to begin with is there is a female friend that 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.000 used to call me a ring and tang titties and 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:24.599 it's stuck on. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:31.880 So sorry, wow, yeah, are you still friends? I hope not? 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:33.880 Yep? 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.800 Oh wow, all right, good friend to have, right, Yeah, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:38.200 it was. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.160 Back on nine o two and oh so I yeah, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:47.160 I was like, oh my god. Yeah, because we're always 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.880 kind of, you know, a little bit long and not droopy. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.559 Butlar tubular. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.320 That's really much better. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.880 I know, it's a tubular breast to for me, it's 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.439 like a narrow bass and it doesn't Yeah, that's the 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.520 that's the you know you're in doing it was the 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.559 right thing because that's a really good cure for that deformity. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.160 It did it. But now you know, you're at a 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.560 different stage of life. You need a little bit of 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.240 weight and it's gone into your chest and you're bigger 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.880 than you want to be. You know, it just depends. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.560 But the good news is maybe you can sort of 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.680 meet in the middle. You can do a quick quick downsizing, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.640 but not too much, so you don't trade one problem 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.000 for another. And you downsize them enough so you feel 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.200 better about them being smaller, but they're not so droopy 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.320 that you need to put the scars in the anchor lift. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.600 So maybe you can find a middle ground. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.319 Wow, I didn't know there was a middle ground. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.240 Yeah, there can't. Well, it depends, by the way. Just 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.319 so you know, there's a new implant out that that 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.120 FDA proved about a year and a half ago called 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.560 motivam O T I v A, which has a really 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.559 see the big problem with breast implants and it sounds 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.520 like you suffered from it once. Is that the most 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.560 common complications. The immune system decides I don't like them 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 anymore and it puts scar tissue around and makes them 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:11.520 really hard. Right, Okay, So this new implant, well it 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.520 was been in Europe for a long time, but it 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.560 wasn't AFT approved here. It finally went through the whole 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.000 FT approval process and it finally yay, got FT approved. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.199 Is this motiv It has a very very low chance 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.000 of hardening. So if you do it again, look into 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.520 those motivas because you want to make sure because each 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.600 time you have surgery, it's like, uh uh, we're going 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.800 back in. Is my body gonna overreact? I hope not, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.599 you know what I mean. Yes, And so the motivas 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.440 are really the way to go these days in my opinion. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.679 You know, my practice is primarily difficult, as you know, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.440 botched revisional plastic surgery. So my patients come in with 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.440 rock hard breasts and sometimes the capsule is so thick 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.600 it's literally bony. It's literally like an eggshell, and you 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.719 take the implants out and on the table, they still 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.640 stay and upright because of that eggshell in there. So 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.959 I was really happy when this new implant came out 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.160 and got EFTY approved. That has a really low chance 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.520 of re encapsulation of getting hard. So that's a really 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.960 good thing to know about. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.720 I'm very excited and I'm inspired to get them redone. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.000 My whole thing is always with raising kids, and my 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.640 youngest just turned nine. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:26.720 I'm like, I can't take that time. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.440 It feels like self indulgent or like it's an elective, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.040 you know, and it's like, well, I'm going to take 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.600 that downtime to do something for myself when I'm you know, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.240 it takes away from the kids, But I mean it's 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.080 at the point where they're so like And by the way, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.720 when I had them redone in twenty twenty one, I 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.320 didn't say I wanted them bigger. I wanted them smaller. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.080 And he was like, no, no, no, they're not going to 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.160 be bigger. It's just a different shape. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.040 Yeah. But then you gained a little bit of weight, right, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.400 that's what you just said. You gained a little weight 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.800 and went to your breast. Yeah. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.760 So at the time I got them done, I was 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.480 actually I still had my baby weight. I still had 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.400 he was born twenty seventeen. I had gone into menopause, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:09.800 just started menopause. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.280 I couldn't lose weight, work out healthy. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.200 Diet, couldn't lose a pound And I was at one 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.240 hundred at the time when I got them done, one 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.960 hundred and like sixty pounds. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:22.680 Yeah. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:29.240 So then when on hormone treatments, did do GLP won 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.960 at the time, and I did. After the boobs, I 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:38.080 got my body back, and then just recently I gained 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.280 twenty five pounds and they're like bigger again. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:46.160 Well, maybe start before you consider surgery, try to do 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.000 the you know these mon jarrows that bound is like 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.840 the greatest thing ever. Maybe try to peel off that 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.080 twenty five pounds and then reevaluate. That's the first place 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.440 to start, you know. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.960 But I got to say I Everyone says, do you 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.040 have any any fashion regrets that you would take back 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.720 from the nineties, And I'm like, yeah, my my booboom plants, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.840 you know, because it healths a lot, like health wise 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.000 aside and how great you can feel from them and 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:24.200 all that. I feel like it really ruined fashion for me. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.960 Yeah, plastic surgery regret, by the way. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.160 Yes, Oh, I didn't know there's a term. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.280 Oh there is, by the way, I just did a 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.040 TV shows. You can see it on Peacock now. It's 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:41.560 called Plastic Surgery rewind where a bunch of celebrities moved 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.600 into a house who had had a bunch of plastic 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.120 surgery and they had to go through the psychological process 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.840 to figure out do they want to reverse it. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.320 My friend Aubrey o'da was on the yes. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.160 Yes, so yeah, she's awesome by the way, right, yeah, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.760 so she was on the show. So you know, I 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.120 reversed some of them, didn't reverse all of them. They 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.400 had to go through a process with a therapist which 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:07.320 is really important. But that's a big thing, plastic surgery regret, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.480 you know. And by the way, even Kylie Jenner, okay, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:16.040 who who did the lip thing and discussed like a 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.679 year ago she had her breast done and a lot 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.560 of people went crazy. She about two and a half 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:24.200 years ago, she said she regretted doing her breasts. Yeah, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.359 she said that she was too young and she wished 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.639 she didn't do it. But anyway, it's a thing. But 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.840 I think that's why you want to make sure if 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.160 you do plastic surgery, you're doing it not for necessarily 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.959 just the you of today. You're doing it for you know. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.680 You like particular, you're sort of twenty eight and you're 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.640 about to have a bunch of kids. Maybe think well, 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.280 what's this, what's this going to be like after two kids? 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.960 And maybe I'm a little heavier. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.680 Slip dresses have never been more popular right now, and 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.480 I want to downsize. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:01.280 These, downsize them. It's easy, It's well nothing. I never, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.240 by the way, never say plastic surgery is easy because 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.399 it can always go south, you know. Oh yeah, so 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.639 just be careful. But anyway, so this was so fun. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.840 I loved it. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.080 Would would you do them? Me. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.120 I'll make a deal. I'll make a deal. You come 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:26.760 into my office, okay, and for sure, I will give 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.679 you a free consult and I will meet with you 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.440 for reels, as my kids would say. And let's based 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.200 on what we've already had a good console, based on 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:39.720 what we talked about. Let's take a look at the 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.359 position relative to the crease and the size and what 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:48.240 kind of reduction you wanted up and we'll talk about 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.160 the options. How's that step one? 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:50.920 Fair enough? 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:52.160 Yes? 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:53.800 And I'm not. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.320 Being greedy here, but I really would love your skincare 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:56.680 as well. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.920 Oh, I will send you it. I will give it youlf. Well, 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.200 you got to come over and hang with me. And 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.080 hell that's right. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.520 Well I want to come in for a consultation, but. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.720 I would love to go to all right, so we'll 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:15.280 do the whole Craigs Beverly Hills thing. All right, all right, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:16.200 fair das. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:19.760 Thank you for this. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.320 Do you like how today like my podcast is just 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.359 like on social clips, like it's audible, but it's not 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:31.480 visual audible audio, you know what I mean? I like 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.479 how I wore a tiny tank top today though, in 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.800 case you needed to assess my situation. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.399 Okay, well, let's let's do it in real life. A 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.119 person with a female in a room with us. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:48.480 Okay, yes, that sounds great.