Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about my boobs?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1: No? No, I mean, so, what's what's the story.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have had three implants surgeries implant surgeries,
Speaker 3: and I just they're too big, they're heavy, they pull,
Speaker 3: like I just pull down my neck. But I'm also
Speaker 3: like I don't know, I don't I got So I
Speaker 3: was doing a podcast interview with Bunny Exo and she
Speaker 3: brought up b I I and I was like.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: And breast illness?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like a BBL or BBL what am I getting?
Speaker 3: And She's like, no, it could be. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I do you remember there was a phase where everyone
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I feel sick from my implants And
Speaker 3: people were like, no, that's you know, not true.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Is it real?
Speaker 1: So it depends who you ask. If you ask a
Speaker 1: bunch of board certified plastic surgeons, they might tell you
Speaker 1: it really isn't necessarily a thing. But my view on this,
Speaker 1: if you know there's enough people telling you that they're
Speaker 1: having an issue and they've had breast implants, I think
Speaker 1: there's probably something to it. Okay, the problem plastic surgeons
Speaker 1: have with this BII breast implan illness thing is that
Speaker 1: if you have breast implann illness from either leaking implants
Speaker 1: or you know, micro bleeding into the tissues, that's getting
Speaker 1: into your system and affecting your immune function. Theoretically, if
Speaker 1: you take them out, all breast implan illness should probably
Speaker 1: go away. And it doesn't necessarily work that way. You know,
Speaker 1: if there's a virus causing a disease or a bacteria
Speaker 1: and you kill the bacteria in the virus, you tend
Speaker 1: to get one hundred percent of people get better. Right.
Speaker 1: It's that that's why the science of breast implant illness
Speaker 1: is a little tricky. Having said that, if a patient
Speaker 1: comes in with all the classic signs of breast implantailis,
Speaker 1: which is fatigue and joint pain and hair falling out
Speaker 1: and skin changes, and they've had silicone implants for a
Speaker 1: long time, what you should do is say, you know,
Speaker 1: why don't you go get an MRI and see if
Speaker 1: they're ruptured. And then if they're ruptured, you say, all right,
Speaker 1: you know you're ruptured, so let's take them out. And
Speaker 1: then you have to figure out do we want to
Speaker 1: put a pair back in, or do we leave them
Speaker 1: out because you may or may not have had breast
Speaker 1: implant illness. And then if they're not ruptured, it's when
Speaker 1: it's really tricky because you go, well, they're not ruptured,
Speaker 1: so how did it give you breast implant illness? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean why you would say, well, because the immune
Speaker 1: systems overreacting to your breast implants. And you say all right,
Speaker 1: and you give them the option. You say, well, the
Speaker 1: data is not really there, just like it's not there
Speaker 1: for peptides, and we still do speptize. But you say, look,
Speaker 1: these are your options. We could take them out, keep
Speaker 1: them out for a while, right and see whether you
Speaker 1: get better, Or we could take them out, take the
Speaker 1: capsule out because maybe there's some micro bleeding into the capsule,
Speaker 1: and put a new pair back in, which might be
Speaker 1: objectionable because you know, we're putting the same thing back
Speaker 1: in that may have caused the breast implannels. It's really unclear.
Speaker 1: What I can tell you, in my opinion is there
Speaker 1: are a few doctors out there who use it as
Speaker 1: a marketing tool and they advertise this n block capsule
Speaker 1: ectomy for breast implant as well. If you come to me,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a special procedure where I'm going
Speaker 1: to take all of the implant and the capsule and
Speaker 1: a lot of the surrounding tissue and leave them out
Speaker 1: and I'm going to cure you. Well, there isn't any
Speaker 1: science for that, and so I wouldn't necessarily fall into
Speaker 1: that end block capsule to me thing either, because that's
Speaker 1: a big operation. It changes the way your breasts look,
Speaker 1: and if you decide to do something in the future,
Speaker 1: it can make more difficult because youve remove so much
Speaker 1: breast tissue and blood supply. So this is one of
Speaker 1: those very tricky things where you want to go if
Speaker 1: you think you're having the symptoms, but you're not having symptoms,
Speaker 1: are you? Do you have fatigue and brain fog? Your
Speaker 1: hair falls out? Doesn't look like your hair falling out?
Speaker 2: Well, well, thank god for extensions.
Speaker 3: No, I've never lost my hair, but I so here's
Speaker 3: the interesting thing. When I was about twenty five years old,
Speaker 3: I remember that I just started feeling like brain fog,
Speaker 3: almost like I was disassociated, like in a bubble like looking,
Speaker 3: and I was like, what's happening. I remember going to
Speaker 3: doctors being like I'm twenty five, and I feel inside
Speaker 3: like I'm eighty like I before that. I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean I started working really young, and we were working.
Speaker 2: Crazy hours, but I used to like work out. I
Speaker 2: would I.
Speaker 3: Would film nine O two and zero for like fourteen hours,
Speaker 3: be on set all day, and be home at like
Speaker 3: eight o'clock at night and go to my trainer and
Speaker 3: work out. I'm super into it. And then at one
Speaker 3: point I just lost all energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how long did you have Did you have
Speaker 1: silicon resting plants? Then?
Speaker 3: So my first set were sailing and that was when
Speaker 3: I was like nineteen, okay, twenty right, My second ones
Speaker 3: were silicone, and that's when I was twenty five.
Speaker 1: So you hadn't had it that long and you were
Speaker 1: having maybe some of that stuff then. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, the first the differential diet, the thing I
Speaker 1: would put you know, do you have mono? Do you
Speaker 1: have hypothyroidism? Are you exhausted under pressure from Hollywood? You know,
Speaker 1: which is probably.
Speaker 2: From five kids?
Speaker 1: Well not at twenty five, not at twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh, at twenty five's right?
Speaker 1: No, at twenty five you were having some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: right right? Yeah, So at twenty five, I think you
Speaker 1: know you're shooting, You're under pressure, you're under a microscope.
Speaker 1: I think that affects. I can't even imagine. Even in
Speaker 1: the environment in which you grew up, which was very
Speaker 1: comfortable being in the Hollywood mill, you you still were on.
Speaker 1: You were on a massive microscope. That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: Whether you felt it or not, I mean, it just is.
Speaker 1: You must have felt it. And plus sure you're telling
Speaker 1: me people are constantly common even back then they were
Speaker 1: commenty right, which you had. Yeah, I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: I think stress can manifest in many many ways. I
Speaker 1: doubt you were having pressed in planet illness. But you
Speaker 1: you have silicon now, yes, okay, So just to get
Speaker 1: to it, you have silicone and a third time okay?
Speaker 1: And were they ever encapsulated or you just changed them
Speaker 1: out because it was time to change them out.
Speaker 3: They were expired and recalled Oh yeah, textured probably, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the textured ones they were associated.
Speaker 1: They are associated with this called thing called AlCl, which
Speaker 1: is anaplastic large cell and foma, which is a weird
Speaker 1: kind of cancer they can cause, which is super super rare.
Speaker 1: But if you have the textured silicone implants, it's recommended
Speaker 1: that you take them out and switch them out for smooth.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I have them here, yeah, brought them.
Speaker 1: Oh you have them. They took them out, so they
Speaker 1: weren't intact if you have them, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: they have a rough surface to it.
Speaker 2: They do, since they do, Yes, that's what that's.
Speaker 1: Why they were recalled. So now now you have smooth
Speaker 1: ones and they're probably soft. They're just too big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're too big.
Speaker 3: And the surgeon that did it this time, and I
Speaker 3: waited so long, I got it done in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: He was so great, and I just felt like what
Speaker 3: he did say, what.
Speaker 2: Do you want? Do you want medium or profile?
Speaker 1: Correct? Low? Low media or high profile? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And he said the ones you've always had.
Speaker 3: I mean at this point when I got the other
Speaker 3: ones taken out, they were expired recalled and the heart
Speaker 3: is a rock.
Speaker 1: Oh you were encapsulated.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, And I have a bone thing.
Speaker 1: That this excav attom I have. It goes in or
Speaker 1: it goes out, it goes out. Oh that's pectus caronadum. No, wait,
Speaker 1: goes in right.
Speaker 3: So it looks like people are like, what's that gap
Speaker 3: between her boobs and I'm like, it's my bone thing.
Speaker 2: It's high here, but it goes in.
Speaker 3: Like even when I was five years old, it looked
Speaker 3: like i'd clean yes, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: That's pectus escabottom yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So people shame me all the time, like look how
Speaker 3: bad our boob job is. And I'm like, guys, I
Speaker 3: have like a bone thing.
Speaker 1: It's genetic too, like yeah, people are so mean.
Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, so he put he he did say
Speaker 3: it's going to change. So the other ones were really
Speaker 3: high and stuck out. These are really flat but are wide,
Speaker 3: and I, ohfile, they're so heavy and when I fluctuate
Speaker 3: and wait like I was, I was sick with sinus
Speaker 3: stuff for like two months, so I you know, wasn't
Speaker 3: mobile as much as I usually am, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I gained I think twenty five pounds back and I
Speaker 3: was like, I like it everywhere else, but my boobs
Speaker 3: got it too, and then they got even bigger, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm miserable with them.
Speaker 1: So if they're soft, are they soft?
Speaker 2: Let me check?
Speaker 1: But I mean they're not hard like they were right.
Speaker 2: They're not hard, but they put that mesh bra.
Speaker 1: In okay, okay, good, So but I see the ripples,
Speaker 1: so did it work?
Speaker 2: Did it not work?
Speaker 3: And it doesn't hold me up the mesh bra huh?
Speaker 1: Well, I think you know clearly if they're too big
Speaker 1: you need to go small. The question is at some point,
Speaker 1: and you know you'll know, you measure. You compare the
Speaker 1: nipple height to the crease where your breast meets your abdomen,
Speaker 1: you know, the inframammary crease. If the nipples below it,
Speaker 1: which it probably isn't if it's below it at some point,
Speaker 1: here's the problem. If you want to downsize them a lot,
Speaker 1: it can make them more droopy. And at some point
Speaker 1: you downsize them too much, you have to get a lift.
Speaker 1: And the problem with a lift is the scars that
Speaker 1: go around and down, you know, and so you know
Speaker 1: the anchor scar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So that's why I didn't want to go
Speaker 3: too small or take them out. At the time, I
Speaker 3: wasn't comfortable. I was like, oh, it's going to be
Speaker 3: a big scarp. But is there an alternative or that.
Speaker 1: Is the scar. So unfortunately, we're still at the place
Speaker 1: where if downsizing them results in a lot of droopiness
Speaker 1: because of the loose skin. You know, you might have
Speaker 1: to do a lift unless you're willing to accept some
Speaker 1: through penis. It really depends on the degree of right.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the reasons I got them done
Speaker 3: to begin with is there is a female friend that
Speaker 3: used to call me a ring and tang titties and
Speaker 3: it's stuck on.
Speaker 1: So sorry, wow, yeah, are you still friends? I hope not?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, good friend to have, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Back on nine o two and oh so I yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. Yeah, because we're always
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, a little bit long and not droopy.
Speaker 1: Butlar tubular.
Speaker 2: That's really much better.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a tubular breast to for me, it's
Speaker 1: like a narrow bass and it doesn't Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the you know you're in doing it was the
Speaker 1: right thing because that's a really good cure for that deformity.
Speaker 1: It did it. But now you know, you're at a
Speaker 1: different stage of life. You need a little bit of
Speaker 1: weight and it's gone into your chest and you're bigger
Speaker 1: than you want to be. You know, it just depends.
Speaker 1: But the good news is maybe you can sort of
Speaker 1: meet in the middle. You can do a quick quick downsizing,
Speaker 1: but not too much, so you don't trade one problem
Speaker 1: for another. And you downsize them enough so you feel
Speaker 1: better about them being smaller, but they're not so droopy
Speaker 1: that you need to put the scars in the anchor lift.
Speaker 1: So maybe you can find a middle ground.
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know there was a middle ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there can't. Well, it depends, by the way. Just
Speaker 1: so you know, there's a new implant out that that
Speaker 1: FDA proved about a year and a half ago called
Speaker 1: motivam O T I v A, which has a really
Speaker 1: see the big problem with breast implants and it sounds
Speaker 1: like you suffered from it once. Is that the most
Speaker 1: common complications. The immune system decides I don't like them
Speaker 1: anymore and it puts scar tissue around and makes them
Speaker 1: really hard. Right, Okay, So this new implant, well it
Speaker 1: was been in Europe for a long time, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't AFT approved here. It finally went through the whole
Speaker 1: FT approval process and it finally yay, got FT approved.
Speaker 1: Is this motiv It has a very very low chance
Speaker 1: of hardening. So if you do it again, look into
Speaker 1: those motivas because you want to make sure because each
Speaker 1: time you have surgery, it's like, uh uh, we're going
Speaker 1: back in. Is my body gonna overreact? I hope not,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yes, And so the motivas
Speaker 1: are really the way to go these days in my opinion.
Speaker 1: You know, my practice is primarily difficult, as you know,
Speaker 1: botched revisional plastic surgery. So my patients come in with
Speaker 1: rock hard breasts and sometimes the capsule is so thick
Speaker 1: it's literally bony. It's literally like an eggshell, and you
Speaker 1: take the implants out and on the table, they still
Speaker 1: stay and upright because of that eggshell in there. So
Speaker 1: I was really happy when this new implant came out
Speaker 1: and got EFTY approved. That has a really low chance
Speaker 1: of re encapsulation of getting hard. So that's a really
Speaker 1: good thing to know about.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited and I'm inspired to get them redone.
Speaker 3: My whole thing is always with raising kids, and my
Speaker 3: youngest just turned nine.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't take that time.
Speaker 3: It feels like self indulgent or like it's an elective,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, well, I'm going to take
Speaker 3: that downtime to do something for myself when I'm you know,
Speaker 3: it takes away from the kids, But I mean it's
Speaker 3: at the point where they're so like And by the way,
Speaker 3: when I had them redone in twenty twenty one, I
Speaker 3: didn't say I wanted them bigger. I wanted them smaller.
Speaker 3: And he was like, no, no, no, they're not going to
Speaker 3: be bigger. It's just a different shape.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then you gained a little bit of weight, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you just said. You gained a little weight
Speaker 1: and went to your breast. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So at the time I got them done, I was
Speaker 3: actually I still had my baby weight. I still had
Speaker 3: he was born twenty seventeen. I had gone into menopause,
Speaker 3: just started menopause.
Speaker 2: I couldn't lose weight, work out healthy.
Speaker 3: Diet, couldn't lose a pound And I was at one
Speaker 3: hundred at the time when I got them done, one
Speaker 3: hundred and like sixty pounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then when on hormone treatments, did do GLP won
Speaker 3: at the time, and I did. After the boobs, I
Speaker 3: got my body back, and then just recently I gained
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds and they're like bigger again.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe start before you consider surgery, try to do
Speaker 1: the you know these mon jarrows that bound is like
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. Maybe try to peel off that
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds and then reevaluate. That's the first place
Speaker 1: to start, you know.
Speaker 3: But I got to say I Everyone says, do you
Speaker 3: have any any fashion regrets that you would take back
Speaker 3: from the nineties, And I'm like, yeah, my my booboom plants,
Speaker 3: you know, because it healths a lot, like health wise
Speaker 3: aside and how great you can feel from them and
Speaker 3: all that. I feel like it really ruined fashion for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plastic surgery regret, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I didn't know there's a term.
Speaker 1: Oh there is, by the way, I just did a
Speaker 1: TV shows. You can see it on Peacock now. It's
Speaker 1: called Plastic Surgery rewind where a bunch of celebrities moved
Speaker 1: into a house who had had a bunch of plastic
Speaker 1: surgery and they had to go through the psychological process
Speaker 1: to figure out do they want to reverse it.
Speaker 2: My friend Aubrey o'da was on the yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, she's awesome by the way, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so she was on the show. So you know, I
Speaker 1: reversed some of them, didn't reverse all of them. They
Speaker 1: had to go through a process with a therapist which
Speaker 1: is really important. But that's a big thing, plastic surgery regret,
Speaker 1: you know. And by the way, even Kylie Jenner, okay,
Speaker 1: who who did the lip thing and discussed like a
Speaker 1: year ago she had her breast done and a lot
Speaker 1: of people went crazy. She about two and a half
Speaker 1: years ago, she said she regretted doing her breasts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said that she was too young and she wished
Speaker 1: she didn't do it. But anyway, it's a thing. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why you want to make sure if
Speaker 1: you do plastic surgery, you're doing it not for necessarily
Speaker 1: just the you of today. You're doing it for you know.
Speaker 1: You like particular, you're sort of twenty eight and you're
Speaker 1: about to have a bunch of kids. Maybe think well,
Speaker 1: what's this, what's this going to be like after two kids?
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm a little heavier.
Speaker 3: Slip dresses have never been more popular right now, and
Speaker 3: I want to downsize.
Speaker 1: These, downsize them. It's easy, It's well nothing. I never,
Speaker 1: by the way, never say plastic surgery is easy because
Speaker 1: it can always go south, you know. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: just be careful. But anyway, so this was so fun.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: Would would you do them? Me.
Speaker 1: I'll make a deal. I'll make a deal. You come
Speaker 1: into my office, okay, and for sure, I will give
Speaker 1: you a free consult and I will meet with you
Speaker 1: for reels, as my kids would say. And let's based
Speaker 1: on what we've already had a good console, based on
Speaker 1: what we talked about. Let's take a look at the
Speaker 1: position relative to the crease and the size and what
Speaker 1: kind of reduction you wanted up and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the options. How's that step one?
Speaker 2: Fair enough?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And I'm not.
Speaker 3: Being greedy here, but I really would love your skincare
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, I will send you it. I will give it youlf. Well,
Speaker 1: you got to come over and hang with me. And
Speaker 1: hell that's right.
Speaker 2: Well I want to come in for a consultation, but.
Speaker 1: I would love to go to all right, so we'll
Speaker 1: do the whole Craigs Beverly Hills thing. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: fair das.
Speaker 2: Thank you for this.
Speaker 3: Do you like how today like my podcast is just
Speaker 3: like on social clips, like it's audible, but it's not
Speaker 3: visual audible audio, you know what I mean? I like
Speaker 3: how I wore a tiny tank top today though, in
Speaker 3: case you needed to assess my situation.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's let's do it in real life. A
Speaker 1: person with a female in a room with us.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, that sounds great.