1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Can we talk about my boobs? 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: No? No, I mean, so, what's what's the story. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So I have had three implants surgeries implant surgeries, 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: and I just they're too big, they're heavy, they pull, 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: like I just pull down my neck. But I'm also 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: like I don't know, I don't I got So I 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: was doing a podcast interview with Bunny Exo and she 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: brought up b I I and I was like. 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: What's that? 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: And breast illness? 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: I was like a BBL or BBL what am I getting? 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: And She's like, no, it could be. So I was like, 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: I do you remember there was a phase where everyone 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I feel sick from my implants And 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: people were like, no, that's you know, not true. 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Is it real? 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: So it depends who you ask. If you ask a 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: bunch of board certified plastic surgeons, they might tell you 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it really isn't necessarily a thing. But my view on this, 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: if you know there's enough people telling you that they're 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: having an issue and they've had breast implants, I think 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: there's probably something to it. Okay, the problem plastic surgeons 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: have with this BII breast implan illness thing is that 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: if you have breast implann illness from either leaking implants 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: or you know, micro bleeding into the tissues, that's getting 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: into your system and affecting your immune function. Theoretically, if 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: you take them out, all breast implan illness should probably 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: go away. And it doesn't necessarily work that way. You know, 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: if there's a virus causing a disease or a bacteria 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: and you kill the bacteria in the virus, you tend 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: to get one hundred percent of people get better. Right. 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: It's that that's why the science of breast implant illness 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: is a little tricky. Having said that, if a patient 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: comes in with all the classic signs of breast implantailis, 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: which is fatigue and joint pain and hair falling out 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: and skin changes, and they've had silicone implants for a 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: long time, what you should do is say, you know, 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: why don't you go get an MRI and see if 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: they're ruptured. And then if they're ruptured, you say, all right, 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: you know you're ruptured, so let's take them out. And 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: then you have to figure out do we want to 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: put a pair back in, or do we leave them 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: out because you may or may not have had breast 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: implant illness. And then if they're not ruptured, it's when 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: it's really tricky because you go, well, they're not ruptured, 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: so how did it give you breast implant illness? Right? 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean why you would say, well, because the immune 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: systems overreacting to your breast implants. And you say all right, 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: and you give them the option. You say, well, the 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: data is not really there, just like it's not there 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: for peptides, and we still do speptize. But you say, look, 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: these are your options. We could take them out, keep 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: them out for a while, right and see whether you 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: get better, Or we could take them out, take the 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: capsule out because maybe there's some micro bleeding into the capsule, 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: and put a new pair back in, which might be 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: objectionable because you know, we're putting the same thing back 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: in that may have caused the breast implannels. It's really unclear. 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: What I can tell you, in my opinion is there 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: are a few doctors out there who use it as 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: a marketing tool and they advertise this n block capsule 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: ectomy for breast implant as well. If you come to me, 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to do a special procedure where I'm going 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: to take all of the implant and the capsule and 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the surrounding tissue and leave them out 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: and I'm going to cure you. Well, there isn't any 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: science for that, and so I wouldn't necessarily fall into 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: that end block capsule to me thing either, because that's 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a big operation. It changes the way your breasts look, 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: and if you decide to do something in the future, 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: it can make more difficult because youve remove so much 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: breast tissue and blood supply. So this is one of 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: those very tricky things where you want to go if 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: you think you're having the symptoms, but you're not having symptoms, 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: are you? Do you have fatigue and brain fog? Your 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: hair falls out? Doesn't look like your hair falling out? 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, well, thank god for extensions. 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: No, I've never lost my hair, but I so here's 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: the interesting thing. When I was about twenty five years old, 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: I remember that I just started feeling like brain fog, 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: almost like I was disassociated, like in a bubble like looking, 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, what's happening. I remember going to 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: doctors being like I'm twenty five, and I feel inside 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: like I'm eighty like I before that. I mean, I 89 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: mean I started working really young, and we were working. 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: Crazy hours, but I used to like work out. I 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: would I. 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: Would film nine O two and zero for like fourteen hours, 93 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: be on set all day, and be home at like 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: eight o'clock at night and go to my trainer and 95 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: work out. I'm super into it. And then at one 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: point I just lost all energy. 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how long did you have Did you have 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: silicon resting plants? Then? 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: So my first set were sailing and that was when 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: I was like nineteen, okay, twenty right, My second ones 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: were silicone, and that's when I was twenty five. 102 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: So you hadn't had it that long and you were 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: having maybe some of that stuff then. I don't know, 104 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, the first the differential diet, the thing I 105 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: would put you know, do you have mono? Do you 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: have hypothyroidism? Are you exhausted under pressure from Hollywood? You know, 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: which is probably. 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: From five kids? 109 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: Well not at twenty five, not at twenty five. 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: Oh, at twenty five's right? 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: No, at twenty five you were having some of this stuff, 112 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: right right? Yeah, So at twenty five, I think you 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: know you're shooting, You're under pressure, you're under a microscope. 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that affects. I can't even imagine. Even in 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the environment in which you grew up, which was very 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: comfortable being in the Hollywood mill, you you still were on. 117 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: You were on a massive microscope. That's a lot of pressure. 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Whether you felt it or not, I mean, it just is. 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: You must have felt it. And plus sure you're telling 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: me people are constantly common even back then they were 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: commenty right, which you had. Yeah, I think it's you know, 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I think stress can manifest in many many ways. I 123 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: doubt you were having pressed in planet illness. But you 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: you have silicon now, yes, okay, So just to get 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: to it, you have silicone and a third time okay? 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: And were they ever encapsulated or you just changed them 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: out because it was time to change them out. 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: They were expired and recalled Oh yeah, textured probably, Yeah, 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: the textured ones they were associated. 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: They are associated with this called thing called AlCl, which 131 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: is anaplastic large cell and foma, which is a weird 132 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of cancer they can cause, which is super super rare. 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: But if you have the textured silicone implants, it's recommended 134 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: that you take them out and switch them out for smooth. 135 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well I have them here, yeah, brought them. 136 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh you have them. They took them out, so they 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: weren't intact if you have them, and I wonder if 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: they have a rough surface to it. 139 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: They do, since they do, Yes, that's what that's. 140 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Why they were recalled. So now now you have smooth 141 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: ones and they're probably soft. They're just too big. 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're too big. 143 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: And the surgeon that did it this time, and I 144 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: waited so long, I got it done in twenty twenty one. 145 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: He was so great, and I just felt like what 146 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: he did say, what. 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: Do you want? Do you want medium or profile? 148 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Correct? Low? Low media or high profile? Yeah? 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: And he said the ones you've always had. 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean at this point when I got the other 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: ones taken out, they were expired recalled and the heart 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: is a rock. 153 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh you were encapsulated. 154 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, And I have a bone thing. 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: That this excav attom I have. It goes in or 156 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: it goes out, it goes out. Oh that's pectus caronadum. No, wait, 157 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: goes in right. 158 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: So it looks like people are like, what's that gap 159 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: between her boobs and I'm like, it's my bone thing. 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: It's high here, but it goes in. 161 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Like even when I was five years old, it looked 162 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: like i'd clean yes, yes, yes, okay. 163 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: That's pectus escabottom yeah yeah yeah. 164 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: So people shame me all the time, like look how 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: bad our boob job is. And I'm like, guys, I 166 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: have like a bone thing. 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: It's genetic too, like yeah, people are so mean. 168 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, so he put he he did say 169 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: it's going to change. So the other ones were really 170 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: high and stuck out. These are really flat but are wide, 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: and I, ohfile, they're so heavy and when I fluctuate 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: and wait like I was, I was sick with sinus 173 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: stuff for like two months, so I you know, wasn't 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: mobile as much as I usually am, and I you know, 175 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: I gained I think twenty five pounds back and I 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: was like, I like it everywhere else, but my boobs 177 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: got it too, and then they got even bigger, and 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm miserable with them. 179 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: So if they're soft, are they soft? 180 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Let me check? 181 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: But I mean they're not hard like they were right. 182 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: They're not hard, but they put that mesh bra. 183 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: In okay, okay, good, So but I see the ripples, 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: so did it work? 185 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: Did it not work? 186 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: And it doesn't hold me up the mesh bra huh? 187 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think you know clearly if they're too big 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: you need to go small. The question is at some point, 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: and you know you'll know, you measure. You compare the 190 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: nipple height to the crease where your breast meets your abdomen, 191 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, the inframammary crease. If the nipples below it, 192 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: which it probably isn't if it's below it at some point, 193 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: here's the problem. If you want to downsize them a lot, 194 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: it can make them more droopy. And at some point 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: you downsize them too much, you have to get a lift. 196 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: And the problem with a lift is the scars that 197 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: go around and down, you know, and so you know 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: the anchor scar. 199 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So that's why I didn't want to go 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: too small or take them out. At the time, I 201 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: wasn't comfortable. I was like, oh, it's going to be 202 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: a big scarp. But is there an alternative or that. 203 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Is the scar. So unfortunately, we're still at the place 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: where if downsizing them results in a lot of droopiness 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: because of the loose skin. You know, you might have 206 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: to do a lift unless you're willing to accept some 207 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:14,239 Speaker 1: through penis. It really depends on the degree of right. 208 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the reasons I got them done 209 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: to begin with is there is a female friend that 210 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: used to call me a ring and tang titties and 211 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 3: it's stuck on. 212 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: So sorry, wow, yeah, are you still friends? I hope not? 213 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: Yep? 214 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, good friend to have, right, Yeah, 215 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: it was. 216 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: Back on nine o two and oh so I yeah, 217 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. Yeah, because we're always 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, a little bit long and not droopy. 219 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: Butlar tubular. 220 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: That's really much better. 221 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I know, it's a tubular breast to for me, it's 222 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: like a narrow bass and it doesn't Yeah, that's the 223 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: that's the you know you're in doing it was the 224 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: right thing because that's a really good cure for that deformity. 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: It did it. But now you know, you're at a 226 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: different stage of life. You need a little bit of 227 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: weight and it's gone into your chest and you're bigger 228 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: than you want to be. You know, it just depends. 229 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: But the good news is maybe you can sort of 230 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: meet in the middle. You can do a quick quick downsizing, 231 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: but not too much, so you don't trade one problem 232 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: for another. And you downsize them enough so you feel 233 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: better about them being smaller, but they're not so droopy 234 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: that you need to put the scars in the anchor lift. 235 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: So maybe you can find a middle ground. 236 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know there was a middle ground. 237 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there can't. Well, it depends, by the way. Just 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: so you know, there's a new implant out that that 239 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: FDA proved about a year and a half ago called 240 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: motivam O T I v A, which has a really 241 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: see the big problem with breast implants and it sounds 242 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: like you suffered from it once. Is that the most 243 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: common complications. The immune system decides I don't like them 244 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: anymore and it puts scar tissue around and makes them 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: really hard. Right, Okay, So this new implant, well it 246 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: was been in Europe for a long time, but it 247 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: wasn't AFT approved here. It finally went through the whole 248 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: FT approval process and it finally yay, got FT approved. 249 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: Is this motiv It has a very very low chance 250 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: of hardening. So if you do it again, look into 251 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: those motivas because you want to make sure because each 252 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: time you have surgery, it's like, uh uh, we're going 253 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: back in. Is my body gonna overreact? I hope not, 254 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yes, And so the motivas 255 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: are really the way to go these days in my opinion. 256 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: You know, my practice is primarily difficult, as you know, 257 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: botched revisional plastic surgery. So my patients come in with 258 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: rock hard breasts and sometimes the capsule is so thick 259 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: it's literally bony. It's literally like an eggshell, and you 260 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: take the implants out and on the table, they still 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: stay and upright because of that eggshell in there. So 262 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: I was really happy when this new implant came out 263 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: and got EFTY approved. That has a really low chance 264 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: of re encapsulation of getting hard. So that's a really 265 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: good thing to know about. 266 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm very excited and I'm inspired to get them redone. 267 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: My whole thing is always with raising kids, and my 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: youngest just turned nine. 269 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't take that time. 270 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: It feels like self indulgent or like it's an elective, 271 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, well, I'm going to take 272 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: that downtime to do something for myself when I'm you know, 273 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: it takes away from the kids, But I mean it's 274 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: at the point where they're so like And by the way, 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: when I had them redone in twenty twenty one, I 276 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: didn't say I wanted them bigger. I wanted them smaller. 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: And he was like, no, no, no, they're not going to 278 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: be bigger. It's just a different shape. 279 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. But then you gained a little bit of weight, right, 280 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that's what you just said. You gained a little weight 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: and went to your breast. Yeah. 282 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: So at the time I got them done, I was 283 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: actually I still had my baby weight. I still had 284 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: he was born twenty seventeen. I had gone into menopause, 285 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: just started menopause. 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't lose weight, work out healthy. 287 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: Diet, couldn't lose a pound And I was at one 288 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: hundred at the time when I got them done, one 289 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: hundred and like sixty pounds. 290 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 291 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: So then when on hormone treatments, did do GLP won 292 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: at the time, and I did. After the boobs, I 293 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: got my body back, and then just recently I gained 294 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: twenty five pounds and they're like bigger again. 295 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Well, maybe start before you consider surgery, try to do 296 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: the you know these mon jarrows that bound is like 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. Maybe try to peel off that 298 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty five pounds and then reevaluate. That's the first place 299 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: to start, you know. 300 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: But I got to say I Everyone says, do you 301 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: have any any fashion regrets that you would take back 302 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: from the nineties, And I'm like, yeah, my my booboom plants, 303 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: you know, because it healths a lot, like health wise 304 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: aside and how great you can feel from them and 305 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: all that. I feel like it really ruined fashion for me. 306 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, plastic surgery regret, by the way. 307 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I didn't know there's a term. 308 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: Oh there is, by the way, I just did a 309 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: TV shows. You can see it on Peacock now. It's 310 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: called Plastic Surgery rewind where a bunch of celebrities moved 311 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: into a house who had had a bunch of plastic 312 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: surgery and they had to go through the psychological process 313 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: to figure out do they want to reverse it. 314 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: My friend Aubrey o'da was on the yes. 315 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, she's awesome by the way, right, yeah, 316 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: so she was on the show. So you know, I 317 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: reversed some of them, didn't reverse all of them. They 318 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: had to go through a process with a therapist which 319 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: is really important. But that's a big thing, plastic surgery regret, 320 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: you know. And by the way, even Kylie Jenner, okay, 321 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: who who did the lip thing and discussed like a 322 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: year ago she had her breast done and a lot 323 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: of people went crazy. She about two and a half 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: years ago, she said she regretted doing her breasts. Yeah, 325 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: she said that she was too young and she wished 326 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: she didn't do it. But anyway, it's a thing. But 327 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I think that's why you want to make sure if 328 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: you do plastic surgery, you're doing it not for necessarily 329 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: just the you of today. You're doing it for you know. 330 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: You like particular, you're sort of twenty eight and you're 331 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: about to have a bunch of kids. Maybe think well, 332 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: what's this, what's this going to be like after two kids? 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm a little heavier. 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: Slip dresses have never been more popular right now, and 335 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: I want to downsize. 336 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: These, downsize them. It's easy, It's well nothing. I never, 337 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: by the way, never say plastic surgery is easy because 338 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: it can always go south, you know. Oh yeah, so 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: just be careful. But anyway, so this was so fun. 340 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I loved it. 341 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Would would you do them? Me. 342 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: I'll make a deal. I'll make a deal. You come 343 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: into my office, okay, and for sure, I will give 344 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: you a free consult and I will meet with you 345 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: for reels, as my kids would say. And let's based 346 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: on what we've already had a good console, based on 347 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: what we talked about. Let's take a look at the 348 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: position relative to the crease and the size and what 349 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: kind of reduction you wanted up and we'll talk about 350 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: the options. How's that step one? 351 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Fair enough? 352 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 353 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not. 354 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: Being greedy here, but I really would love your skincare 355 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: as well. 356 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I will send you it. I will give it youlf. Well, 357 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: you got to come over and hang with me. And 358 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: hell that's right. 359 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Well I want to come in for a consultation, but. 360 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I would love to go to all right, so we'll 361 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: do the whole Craigs Beverly Hills thing. All right, all right, 362 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: fair das. 363 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for this. 364 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Do you like how today like my podcast is just 365 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: like on social clips, like it's audible, but it's not 366 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: visual audible audio, you know what I mean? I like 367 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 3: how I wore a tiny tank top today though, in 368 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: case you needed to assess my situation. 369 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's let's do it in real life. A 370 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: person with a female in a room with us. 371 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, that sounds great.