1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, the price of vehicles in general have been 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: relatively high, with the average price of a new car 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: hitting over. Tomm, you want to take a guest with this, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: how much you think a new car is on average? Today? 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: You're closet eight thousand dollars the car Doctor, Tom, You're 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna make car payments for the next seven years. Go, 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: that's seven years. Same, seven years of car payments. Well, 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: the car lasts that long. Well, probably not. Welcome to 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world over turned 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and call in. The garage doors are open, but I 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls. At eight five and 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: now he running Mr Cooper's cruise broke again this week. Um, 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it's like it's his only vehicle, but 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: Herb has a few, and it's it's always it's always 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: interesting talking with Herb. He just seems to have the 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: most fun with broken cars. I we both kind of 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: chuckle at it. There's definitely there's a place in heaven 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: for guys like him for his patients, and um, it's Cruise. 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, we always learned something new about the car line, 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: that seems whenever one of his cars come in, because 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: there's always something weird. Uh. You know his teen Cruise 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: is a ten Cruise limited lt Z. Is it a limited? 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Is it an LTZ? Is it both? Well? According to 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: General Motors, it could be one of four because there's 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: an early limited, a late limited production. There's an early 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: limited LTZ and a late limited lt S say, and 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it depends on production date, then the vin, 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: then the engine, the color. Um. You know, there's some 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: crazy combinations of how and what it becomes. And we 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: realized something was amiss because this car needed a water pump, 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: which you know I love talking to herb. He said, 35 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: why is it called a water pump if it's not 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: pumping water? Um? And I said, you know, nobody's ever 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: asked me that question in fifty years of fixing cars, 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: But that's a fair point. Why do they call it 39 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: a water pump? It's really it should be a coolant pump, right. Uh. 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: You know that's like, why do they call it a 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: thermostat housing when there's really no thermostat in there. The 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: thermostat is on the other side of the engine, in 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the thermostat assembly see it, and you know, maybe that's 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: the answer to that one her if you're listening right. 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: They call it a thermostat assembly module, but on the 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: other side of the engine it's a thermostat housing because 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. But in any event, the 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: coolant pump needed to be replaced. And we just as always, 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: even though we've done the job, I know, I always 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: make Danny look up the procedure. You know, I've done 51 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: more of them than him, and um, you know, and 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: that's no slight just you know, we want to look 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: at the procedure. We always listen. I still look at 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: procedures because you forget right time, too much of a 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: gap goes in between. You want to remember which bolt 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: goes where and what part goes where and so on. 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: So we looked up the procedure. Well, if you look 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: it up for by vin for a limited LTZ, it 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: comes up with a bunch of pictures that make absolutely 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: no sense and don't apply to this vehicle. By the way, 61 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: they call it a water pump two, which I guess 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the entire industry is wrong, so we had to look 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: up a limited limited. We actually looked it up until 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: we got the right picture. Um, and if you look 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: it up for the opposite vin it comes up with 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the correct water pump picture and the correct application of 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: parts and componentry, which you know comes back to research. 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's the point of this open You 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: know that I can't stress it enough because you can 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: take a common, everyday job like a coolant pump, and 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: you've got to follow up procedure. And this one was 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: no exception either. You know, it wasn't so clear cut straightforward. 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: There was some very specific torque procedures. This is the 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Opal one point four leader turbocharged engine. Uh, there's inch 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: pounds being applied to the bolts holding the pump on 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: their torque to yearld bolts. Two of them, one in 77 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: ten were torque too yeld torque to yield bolts. All right, 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: The motor mount had to come out, you know, in 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: order to get to the water pump. It's it's not 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: a simple straightforward repair. And a lot of these things 81 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: are getting older and more brittle now and they require 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a delicate touch. So but uh, 83 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: some research research definitely counts. So Mr Cooper, I just 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: wanted to let you know that I did talk about it, 85 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: and from now on we're gonna call it the HERB 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Cooper coolant pump not water pump repair, because that's really 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: what it was. But that was the that was the 88 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: gist of it. So let's pull over, and let's not 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: pull over. Let's let's move over. Um, move over, pull 90 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: over one or the other. Let's go over and talk 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: to Joe from Michigan. Oh nine Chevy Silverado and some 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: ticking noises. Joe, Welcome to the car doctor. How can 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I help? Well, it's the two thousand nine Chevy Silverado 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: five point three Leader, four wheel drive crew cab, sixty 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: thousand miles original owner about fifty miles ago. Coming home 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: from up north. I got a ticking, clicking and the 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: snaps once in a while. Sound sounds like it's coming 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: from the right hand side the engine. This engine has 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: what they call an active fuel management system where they 100 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: shut off four of the cylinders. I'm wondering, and it runs, 101 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: it runs strong, yet, it runs good, but I'm wondering 102 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: what this noise might be. You know, it's it ultimately 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: will probably come back to be a failing lifter. But 104 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: we have to start. Let's start with basics, right, let's 105 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: art at the beginning. When we get a tick like 106 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: this on a valve train issue, the first thought I 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: always have is, you know, if it was a if 108 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: it was a forty year old Chevy small block, do 109 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: we have a rock aroarm that's got too much lash 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: to it or the valves out of adjustment. Well, you know, 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the valves can't really go out of adjustment on an 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: OH nine five three. It's an LS motor. There there's 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: no valve adjustment per se like there used to be. 114 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: But it's something changed on the valve train. That's something 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: change on valve train geometry that caused there to be 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: excess clearance or excess lash causing a lift or tick. 117 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I know it sounds weird, but if it's if it's 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: an older vehicle with low miles on it, sometimes we 119 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: see carbon deposits on the valves and it will cause 120 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: the valve to hang open and it will change that 121 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: last setting. And you could try just doing a simple 122 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaning. You know, at the very least you're 123 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: doing some maintenance. At the very worst, you know, you're 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: you're you're wasting a half a day to do it 125 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: us to see if it makes any difference in the 126 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: way it operates. All right, you know we're we're talking 127 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: about if if the valve is open, you know, ten thousands, 128 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: fifteen thousands, it'll cause a tick, it'll it'll change where 129 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: that lifter sits. It could be it could allow the 130 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: valve lifter to be at zero lash or above zero 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: lash to the point where it makes noise. So simple 132 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: things first, right, oil pressure looks good. You have a 133 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: gage in this truck. It never changes it never, it's 134 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: it's still where it always has been. It hasn't changed 135 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: its position. Correct, Correct, it's got it's about sitting at idol. 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: It's it's been abouts of oil pressure. Right, So then 137 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: we've got to you know, do we have a do 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: we have a lifter starving for oil? So now the 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: valve covers have to come off running at idole. It's 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna make a mess. But you know, do we have 141 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: a lifter or not pumped up? Do we see one 142 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: rock or arm not getting oil? And chances are we will, 143 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: and then that's the lifter we've got to go after. 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Now I've got to tell you this. On the act 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the fuel motors, there's where the oil supply is. There's 146 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: a screen that feeds the lifter galley that gets plugged 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: and that could be it's it's this is the sign 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: of its starving for oil. And even though you change 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the oil religiously and I'm sure you're on top of it, 150 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we've still seen cases where that 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: that screen will get plugged and it will limit oil 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: supply and create this ticking noise as well. Is that 153 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: in the back of the engine by the oil pressure center, 154 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: no shirts under the intake manifold. They wouldn't put anywhere 155 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: you could get to it. Um, you know you're gonna 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have taken half the engine apart before you 157 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: pull any of this apart, though, Joe, go on the 158 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: assumption that it's it's it's one of the four cylinders 159 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: with active fuel management, al right, because not every cylinder 160 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: has it. It's you know, half the motors active fuel, 161 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: half the motors regular engine, so to speak. And make 162 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: sure before you take this apart that the lifter are 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: available for this engine in your particular area of the country. 164 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Because we're seeing a lot of shortages all right, and 165 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: even even from General Motors, those lifters are in short supply. 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: We just went through this about two months ago on 167 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: a vehicle and it just it took forever, you know. 168 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: So now I've got in the habit of looking ahead 169 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: of time before I take a lot of things apart, 170 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: but definitely on one of these, because I think you're 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna find the way we ended up doing the job 172 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: we bought at We bought a GM lifter brand new 173 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: in the box on eBay. That's what we had to 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: resort to in order to get the car out the door. 175 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: So just just just make sure parts are available. So 176 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: but go through the step. You mentioned some cleaner that 177 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: I could maybe add to the oil that might help, 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: But I would I would, I would go. I would 179 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: go visit Berriman Products dot com and you know, look 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: at they've got a variety of UH oil d sludging 181 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: crank case cleaners. If you've got any questions, I would 182 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: call them up to wreck. Their eight hundred tech support 183 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: line numbers gonna be there. But if I was gonna 184 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: trust anything to clean the crank case, it would be 185 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: something from Berryman just to see and you know they're 186 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: they're they're high. I think they have a high mileage rejuvenator. Um, 187 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: They've got a couple of other things. And I've grown 188 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: to admit that, you know, Barryman has so many different 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: products for so many specific things. I've grown to admit 190 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: that sometimes I just have to ask the question, what's 191 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the best thing for my application? So, you know, Barriman 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Products dot Com will take you there, and you know, 193 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: and and just be prepared because those guys love to 194 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: talk about their stuff. They they're very proud of what 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: they do. Um uh, you know, they're there are a 196 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: fun bunch of guys to talk to. So but I 197 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: would I would definitely consider that too, just to see 198 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: if it frees up the sticky lifter. So okay, well 199 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I heard it. You could be you know, it depends 200 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: on which one of the possible faults I've outlined is 201 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: the cause. If it's starving for oil. If if it's 202 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: starving for oil, yes, If it's carbon deposits and it's 203 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: increased lash, yeah, it's not eight for it. You know, 204 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of scenarios where that tick is 205 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: good for it. So you know, do people do it? Yeah? 206 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, And I've I've got some out there. I 207 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: had one fella. The tick went on for two years. 208 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: He didn't want to fix it, he didn't want to 209 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: get into it. He ended up selling the truck and 210 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: moving moving to Sweden. Uh so you know, wherever that 211 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: truck win, he's never going to hear about it. But um, 212 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you know then I've had people drive it and six 213 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: months later the lifter finally fails and implodes. So it's 214 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: not you know, it's not something to be ignored. It's 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: something that's got to get solved if you care about 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the vehicle and you're playing on keeping it. I have 217 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: not been driving it since I know the steps. Alright, sir, 218 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I well, thank you. You're very welcome. Joe, you'd be well, 219 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: and if you need more, I'm here for you. Thank you. 220 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: Eight five zero. The Car Doctor is coming back right 221 00:11:47,600 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. Whether it's a little red 222 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: Corvette or you go, you've come to the right place 223 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: to get that car fixed. Ron and Ady in the 224 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor five five five zero nine zero zero. Now 225 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to John and 226 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I w John. Welcome to the Car Doctors, sir, how 227 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: can I help? I think I need to do a 228 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: schedule and a freeze change on the Grand Caravan, and 229 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the deither didn't have enough mopar and a freeze. So 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I was looking at you know, maybe Presston Platinum or 231 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Peak one of their o A t Anna freezes, and 232 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: I was wondering what should I use um either or 233 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, and this is not an uncommon issue. John, 234 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you. Did the dealer have the thermostat? 235 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: Actually I ordered it. Uh. When I looked up the 236 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: code and read some of the issues, people said zero 237 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: zero right, yes, okay, they said it's almost always the 238 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: the thermistad. So I got online and got one. You know, 239 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: we we do this, we we do this fold code 240 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: all the time. This code, if I can enlighten you 241 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: and everybody a little bit, is it's about It's about 242 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: rate of rise. It's called thermostat rationality. The computer looks 243 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: at when John turns the key and starts the car, 244 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: it counts in seconds how long it takes to reach 245 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: operating temperature. It's it's it's it's just like you turned 246 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: the thermistat up in the house because Mama says it's cold, 247 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: and ten minutes later it hasn't heated up the house 248 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: enough yet and you hear about it again that are 249 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: happened to you? Happens to me a lot, But that's 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: don't don't don't say I told you? And uh, um, 251 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: you know it's it's dermistat rationality, it's rate or rise. 252 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: So we do a lot. It usually comes out to 253 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: be this. This particular fault is a thermistat. The vehicles 254 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: seven years old going on seven years old. It's not 255 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: the worst idea to replace it. I can tell you 256 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: that the Chrysler dealers are having issues getting parts in 257 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: these thermostats, one of them. Um, we do a lot 258 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: of this code. We do a lot of this, uh 259 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: using a motor rat thermostat and nine O eight dish 260 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: two oh three. Uh. The only problem with that thermostat 261 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: is it's so beautiful you don't want to put it 262 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: in the car. You want to use it in the paperweight, 263 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: so you get to look at it on your desk 264 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: all day long. Uh. They do such a nice job. Um. 265 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Do you have a NAPPA around you, a Nappa Auto Parts? Yeah, 266 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: go visit a napen. Okay, go visit the NAPA and 267 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: see if they've got a uh. You know, if they've 268 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: got enough of one or the other pressed owner peak 269 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: um with a platinum and if you need a thermostat 270 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: if if depending on what you bought. I don't know 271 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: what you bought. But if you want to get a 272 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: motor rat Napple, we'll have it um the nine two 273 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: oh three and uh, you know that'll do it for you. 274 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Just just make sure you get enough. You just gotta 275 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: look um. You've got to verify you know that that 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: that's a funny year sixteen in that it can have 277 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: their super long life, their ten year coolant or their 278 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: five year coolant, and you have to look at it carefully. 279 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I've had it where the book will say that it's 280 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be uh you know, tenure, and it's not. 281 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: I've had it the other way. But look at it carefully. 282 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: It's going to have more of a purplish tint to 283 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: it if it's the ten year stuff versus the five year. 284 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: So you know, just just make sure you're putting correct 285 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: coolant back in it, and uh you know, you'll be fine. 286 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: My book says tenure, it's a red, pretty youngish red color. Yeah. 287 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: See that's the problem because if you, if you know, 288 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: go to when you when you go down to your 289 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: nap auto parts, just ask when you take the cap off, 290 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna look at both of them. They almost looked 291 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: they almost looked the same. Uh you know, it's it's 292 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: really kind of funny. It probably isn't oat al right, 293 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: it probably is the tenure. Uh, you know, just just 294 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: like I said, you'll, I can't understand this is like Ford, right, 295 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Ford used to have a yellow I'm sorry. They have 296 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: a gold coolant, all right, which is their gold. Then 297 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: they have a green and an orange. They got rid 298 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: of the green and orange and what color do you 299 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: think they went to yellow? Um? You ever trying to 300 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: tell the turns between yellow and gold? Yeah, you know, 301 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: why can't we make it? You know, like the green 302 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: and the green and the orange became red. Uh you know, 303 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: so that there's a striking difference. I never understood that, 304 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's so difficult. Uh So there are I believe, 305 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: not that we've had a resort to this yet, but 306 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: I've been reading that there are some litmus paper tests 307 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: out there that you can dip strip the coolant and 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: then it will tell you whether it's you know, it's 309 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's this base or that base type of coolant 310 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: in the vehicle, and I understand that that's probably what 311 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna come to in the near future because it's 312 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: just getting way too complicated to judge it by color. 313 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: And I can't trust application. I can't trust application when 314 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I look up a coolant pump procedure on the Chevy Cruse, 315 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: which way is right? There's one of four possibilities, so, uh, 316 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, just be sure you're information is correct, and um, 317 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: you know you'll be fine. So and it's an easy 318 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: flesh product now, and I don't think you'll need it. 319 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: You know what I would drain. I would drain what's 320 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: in the radiator. When you take the thermostat off, you're 321 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: gonna get you'll have about another third in the block, 322 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, unless you want to go and pull the 323 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: core plugs out, which we never do to be honest. 324 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: All right, Um, you're changing the coolant early enough that 325 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna the good stuff is gonna dilute down, and 326 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: you want to do a cooling drain and fill in 327 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: six months or a year, just you know, feel better 328 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: about it and get the rest of it out. Unless 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: you're using a machine, You're just never going to get 330 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: it all out. It's a fairly easy thermostat to do 331 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: to just make sure you know there's a bleeder. There's 332 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: a bleeder on top. Make sure that you use a 333 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: good wide straight blade screwdriver bit to get to that 334 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: screw and not strip it out. And this way it 335 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot to tighten it back up either. 336 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: But get down to your local nap but they'll be 337 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: glad to help you and be able to find that 338 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: motor red nine o eight dish two oh three. So 339 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You do well, John, you need more, 340 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: you know where I am. Hey, coming up next, got 341 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise. We're gonna pluck to 342 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Ted Bradley from PB about rust our favorite subject. Don't 343 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: go away. The Car Doctor's back right after this. Let's 344 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: not can fetch that she was dying. She woke up 345 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: and tooke me by the hand. She's call me and 346 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: my Chevy van and that's all right with me. Welcome back, listeners, 347 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: running the NY and the Car Doctor. You know you 348 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: recently heard me tell you the story about the nine 349 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: to fifty pick them up truck we had in the 350 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: shop with the rusted E g R. Tube, and how 351 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I use P B Blaster to help work its way 352 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: in there and free the tube and get it apart 353 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: after you know what, almost twenty five years of sitting 354 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: and uh and rusting itself to death. Well, you know 355 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: it's it's more than just spray on and and and 356 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: and you know take the piece apart. That's not how 357 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: it works. And I thought I would reach out to 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: an expert in the field, Ted Bradley. He's a technical 359 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: person over there at Blaster Corporation. Where else would I go, right, 360 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: but the folks who make p B Blaster. And we've 361 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: invited him up here to the show today and he's 362 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: he's obliged and he's gonna spend some time with us today. 363 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: So Ted, thanks for coming aboard. Thank you, Thanks for 364 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: having me appreciate it. You know we had this ninety seven. 365 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Well let's let's do it like this. I want to 366 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: talk about vehicles and rust. Okay, uh, you know you 367 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: know where where do you see? You know, you guys 368 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: developed this product to combat rust and and to help 369 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: take apart rusty pieces. I can tell you about this 370 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: to fifty and the rest of d g R two. 371 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: Do you guys see other specific places where vehicles rust 372 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: as they age. Yeah, absolutely, I mean really under the chassis, 373 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: anywhere you your breaks, your exhaust, your manifolds, steering components, um, 374 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: you know, and really rust creeps, It creeps all up 375 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: in through the threads and of nuts and bolts and 376 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: fasteners that really hold all those metal components together and 377 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: and you know, over time they just become sometimes they 378 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: become you ever notice how sometimes a component becomes indistinguishable. 379 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: You can't tell where the nut ends and the stud begins, 380 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: and it's just it's just so um. So you know, 381 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: like when I was doing that e g R tube 382 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: on that F to fifty, I couldn't tell where the 383 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: manifold ended and the tube began. But but P P 384 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: P blast or knew you know it it as it was. 385 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: It's smarter than me. Um. You know. I kind of 386 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: sprayed it on the on the nut, I spray, you know, 387 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: and not you know, not the wildly spray, especially with 388 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: the pro straw, but you know, just putting it where 389 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I want and then it kind of did its thing. 390 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Is that a penetrating action? It is it's it's actually 391 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: a technical term. Is its capillary action. It's a fewer 392 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: to take a a like a dry rag and dip 393 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: it down into a pool of water and you watch 394 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: that water kind of almost creep up the rag. It's 395 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: kind of the same concept, but you're absolutely right. When 396 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: that fastener becomes so rusted over that it it literally 397 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: welds together. So if you think about threads with relation 398 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: with a nut in the bolt, you've got all these 399 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: surfaces that are mating with each other. Well, that rust, 400 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: all that rust is doing is just welding all of 401 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: those threads together. And TB is formulated specifically to creep, 402 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: and this creep action, really, the capillary action is really 403 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: what's doing all the work. And you can actually see it, 404 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, so you you you would apply the product 405 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: to to to the rusted area, Let it sit for 406 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: ten minutes, give it a shot. See it becomes loose 407 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: if it doesn't hit it again. Meanwhile, it's creeping in 408 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: between those those threads and it's just literally dissolving rust. 409 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: And so rust rust creates all these this difficulty. When 410 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: you're working on your car, you're trying in the maintenance 411 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: that breaks exhaust, manifold whatever. You want to loosen those 412 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: rust and you want to fix that thing. Time is money, 413 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: so speed is important and PB blaster does it better 414 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: than anybody else. So there's another term I want to 415 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: talk about. Two I want to talk about, you know, 416 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: because penetration is only part of the story, right as 417 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: you got to remove the rust. But then there's another 418 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: term called metal rescue. You know, if you were going 419 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: to describe best practices for rust removal, metal rescue comes 420 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: into that conversation too, correct, that's exactly that's exactly right. 421 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, we're in Cleveland, Ohio, and Cleveland, Ohio is 422 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: known as the rust belt. Why is it called the 423 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: rust belt because we mind salt under lake, erie, bringing 424 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: up put it on the roads when it's when it's 425 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: when it's cold, when there's snow, the cars get rusted 426 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: and and it's just a mess. So we like to 427 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: think that we know rust, we know how to protect 428 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: we know how to pretend to penetrate rust. We do 429 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: not know how to protect from rust. We know how 430 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: to eliminate rust. And metal rescue is just that magical 431 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: product that that is absolutely benign. It's it doesn't it 432 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: doesn't contain those harmful acids that are dangerous to your skin, 433 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: to the environment, This is completely benign. It's totally green. 434 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: You you had soaked the products in this stuff. We 435 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: also have it in the gel for vertical surfaces. You 436 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: just painted on the side of your car. If you 437 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit of a rust spot on your 438 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: car you had painted on the side, let it sit overnight, 439 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: put a little cell pain over that to keep it 440 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: from from from sagging. And it literally it wasin twenty 441 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: four hours. The rust is gone. Each gallon of this 442 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: product holds a half a pound of of rust. And 443 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: you think about that's a lot of rust. You can 444 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: reuse it over and over and when it's done, you 445 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: pour it right down the drain well. And that's and 446 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: that's metal rescue. That's metal rescue. That's right right, that's crazy. 447 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: Is that Is that a brush on? Is that a 448 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: spray on? Well, it's a soak, So we have it 449 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: in a soak. It's we have it in the you're 450 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: ready to go mix and also a concentrate where you 451 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: would actually literally just add water to it and then 452 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you've got a component, you've got to 453 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: pull the component off and then soak it. So it's 454 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: got a soak in the bath overnight there's no electrolysis 455 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: or acid. You soak it in this in this formula 456 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: and it and it just that you you can literally 457 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: watch the fault, the rust fall off. In addition, we 458 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: have it in the gel form that you can use 459 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: it and painted on the side on a vertical surface. 460 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: And to keep that stuff from sagging, it's got to 461 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: kind of stay wet, so you put a little bit 462 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: of cellophane on it to hold it in place. Come 463 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: back and just wipe it off and the rust is gone. 464 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um, it sounds like it's magic. Yes, it's 465 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: it's just magic from the Folk show for a blast 466 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: of corporation. Um, if I wanted to limit rust because 467 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: we don't like rust, rust never sleeps, like the song says, right. Um, yeah, 468 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: there's also another product, earth Is Shield, which will help 469 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: slow down rust. In the first place I'm reading, and 470 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: this is something new. This is a rust protectant. It's 471 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: it protects the surfaces of any metal, like whether you 472 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: wanted it underneath the chassis of your car, um, underneath 473 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: the mower deck of your mower, your your your shoot on, 474 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: your snowblower, your your shovel. You know, it protects any 475 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: surface from rust. And let me tell you this stuff 476 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: works good. It penetrates down in the nooks and crannies, 477 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: it sets up. It's a it's a landlin based product, 478 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: but it's got a little bit of petroleum gels so 479 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: it won't sag. It sticks on there. It doesn't harden 480 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: like a paint either, So you know you could you 481 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: could if you had to strip it off and take 482 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: it off, but you put it on there, and you know, 483 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: the stuff just lasts forever. At lasts we had it 484 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: in the fields. In some cases it lasts up to 485 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: two years. And I guess it's got some cling factor right, 486 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: because it's gonna it's gonna stay there and all kind 487 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: it's a weather from what you're describing it, it is. 488 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: It claims it doesn't sag, it's got it's got a 489 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: low odor, so it's not you know, it's not uh 490 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: to you know, too smelly when you're applying it. It 491 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: comes in an aerosol can. It also comes in a 492 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: one gallon and a five gallon container that you would 493 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: use with one of those siphon you know, pneumatic siphon 494 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: feed guns and just kind of spread it, say under 495 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: if you want to do the whole underside of your 496 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: chattis of your car. You would use one of those 497 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: applicator guns to get it on there, just spread all 498 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: underneath the car. It will protect things all winter. If 499 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: you got like a snowblower, if you got a snow 500 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, a snow blade that you're pushing with a 501 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, a bigger F two fifty truck or something 502 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: like that, it'll make those those pieces of equipment last forever. Well, 503 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: it sounds like it sounds like you're it sounds like 504 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: you're describing some projects for everybody. They can do this 505 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: oneter as we get ready for this. There's plenty of them, 506 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: that's sure, especially in Cleveland, Ohio. When you're going from 507 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, your summer equipment to put it away. You 508 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: want to protect it, keep it, you know, ready, so 509 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: when it comes out in the spring, it fires up, 510 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: it's ready to go, and uh, you know you can 511 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: get get your jobs done. Well, listen, you know there's 512 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: there's always something to do in PB. Blaster and all 513 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: the products from Blaster Corporation definitely make life easier for 514 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: all of us. So we thank you. Is there a 515 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: is there a place the listeners can get more information, Ted, 516 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: Sure is I mean, you know it's we're We're all 517 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: over social media. We've got you know, our website and 518 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: if you google, you google Blaster you'll see, you know 519 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: a host of different products and things and applications. But 520 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: if you if you want to go to ww dot 521 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: Blaster Products dot com, you can kind of take a 522 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: look at everything we've got there and and really get 523 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: a good feel for it. But you know, we're available everywhere. 524 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Go any direction and go to any one of these 525 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: fine retailers out there, whether it's you know, uh, automotive, 526 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: industrial hardware, farm and egg, wherever you go, you're going 527 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: to see Blaster Products, um and uh. If if all 528 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: else pales, give us a call absolutely, Ted, I want 529 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: to thank you for taking your time today. We appreciate it, 530 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: and we appreciate the stories and the input. We I 531 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: look forward to my next rusty project and I faced 532 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: face it. I face it with no fear. So thank 533 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot man. We appreciate it. You're very welcome, Ted, 534 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: You have yourself a good holiday season. I'm Ronaninny in 535 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. Don't 536 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: go away, Tom stop singing. We have a radio showed 537 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: it too, and then realize you were gonna get up 538 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: there and start doing your thing, Las Vegas. Tom, let's 539 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: go over to Brian and mass some questions about a 540 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine suburban Brian You're on with Rondinni and the 541 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? Yeah? Hi, thanks for 542 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: taking my call. So I have I have studied snows 543 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: that I keep, uh mounted on a set of rims 544 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: that I purchased used from a junkyard. And the rims 545 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: are old and rusty, and two of them have slow leaks, 546 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: and one of them is bad enough that I can 547 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: put the hose on it and see, um, little bits 548 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: of air coming up from a few areas around the 549 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the bead. And so what I'm wondering is is it 550 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: reasonable for Yeah, I was gonna say, is it the 551 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: bead that's leaking? Or is it the rim? It seems 552 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: to be between the rim and the beach. Go ahead, 553 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry interrupt ahead, And so, um, is it unreasonable 554 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: of me to ask the tire shop to dismount it? 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: And maybe I take the rim home and go at 556 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: it with a wire wheel for a while, or should 557 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I know? Is there's some kind of ceiling they can 558 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: put at the beads or do I just need to 559 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: buy new ones? Yes? Yes, and maybe so you know, 560 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't have this conversation at the counter with customers 561 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, they want us to mountain 562 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: balance for a tire, g ron, Why is it close 563 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: to two to have you mountain balance four tires? Well, 564 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: because let me explain it to you, all right, we 565 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: don't just do a tire mountain balance and close our 566 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: eyes to the corrosion that's built up on the rim. 567 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Because corrosion is a real problem, all right. So we 568 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: will look at a tire and a rim, and if 569 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: we take it apart and it's corroded right on our tickets, 570 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: it says we're gonna clean and grind and bead seal 571 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: the rim back to the tire, meaning that if it's 572 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: an aluminum rim or these aluminum rims Brian, they're steel, 573 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: so they're rusted, all right, So it's either rust or steel. Um, 574 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: We're going to grind them down smooth, and then we 575 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: use a product that's it's a bead sealer. It's like 576 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: a rubber membrane that will apply to the to the bead. 577 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: Usually it's the inside bead. I'm not gonna say every tire, 578 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: but is it is it the inside of the outside 579 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: that's leaking? Just out of curiosity? Well, when I interestingly, 580 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: when I when I put the hose on it, it's 581 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: all the leaks I can see are coming from the 582 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: outside side facing the outside, and that's and that's possible. 583 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: But I look at both. I always tend to see 584 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: inside the rim or you know, the side that's trapped, 585 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: and I always think, gee, is it because the slush 586 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: is trapped underneath and it's it's driving it and wedging 587 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: it up underneath. But who knows what conditions these rims 588 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: have been under because they're used. But regardless, bead seals 589 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: are grind and clean both sides. Bead seals with membrane 590 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: put it back on. Now, if the tires are really old, 591 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: and you have to look at the date code on 592 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: the side of the tires, if they're more than six 593 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: or seven years old, the tires may just be so 594 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: dried out that they're just not able to maintain a seal. 595 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: And frankly, if the tires are that old, you really 596 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: need tires to be replaced at that point too, because 597 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: they're not safe to operate, you know, regardless of tread. Uh. 598 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's like they can rehab the then yeah, 599 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: if they're steel, I would think they could rehab them. Um, 600 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean you could rehab them to you know. It's 601 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: it's they're gonna use. Um, they're gonna use either a 602 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: wire wheel or they're gonna use those little brown three 603 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: M grinding pucks. They look like little hockey pucks and uh, 604 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: just just clean it up that way. But you know, 605 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: and the reason it costs more is because it takes time. 606 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: It will take us two hours to go through and 607 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: recondition a set of rims and you know, beat seal 608 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: tires and balance. You know, there's a lot of work involved. 609 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: It's not simple and cut anymore. And all of this 610 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: started within the last fifteen years. It seems like the 611 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: chemicals were putting down on the road for salt and 612 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: ice prevention and removal is really taking a toll on 613 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the tires and rim So just be aware. But yeah, 614 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: by all means you're not out of line. Expect the charge, 615 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: ask him how much it's gonna be before they do it, 616 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: and uh, you'll be fine from there. Call me if 617 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: you need more. Zero the car doctors coming back right 618 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away, welcome back Ning the car doctor. 619 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I want to I want to close out there. I 620 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: want to say thank you to Tom from PB Blast 621 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: for stopping by. First of all, I appreciate him taking 622 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: the time today, I really do. I want to close 623 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: out the hour talking about oil changes if I can, 624 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: UM a little bit of common sense here. Jennifer new customer, Uh, 625 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: came into the shop this week and doesn't know anything 626 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: about cars. All right, she's you know, full disclosure. UM. 627 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I buy jewelry from Jennifer. Um. You know she she 628 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: works at a local jewelry store, and she's very smart 629 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: and very knowledgeable in that area. But when it comes 630 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: to cars, yeah, not so much. Um. It's not her thing, 631 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: that she says. And I asked her to bring me 632 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: her service records of of what she's been doing up 633 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: till this point. I want to see how she's treating 634 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: this teen Toyota prius and I want to see how 635 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: she's being treated. You know, as a shop owner, you 636 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: always want to know. As a business owner, you always 637 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: want to know why somebody changed, what made them change? What, 638 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: what's what's the hot button that said? I don't want 639 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: to go there anymore. I want to go find somebody else. 640 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: And you know that tells you a lot, right, That 641 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: tells you can I meet that goal? Can I be 642 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: what this person wants me to be? That's important because 643 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to work for everybody, but you to 644 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: work for the right people. So Jennifer brought it in, 645 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: and you know, she had been going to the dealer. 646 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking dealers, just this one particular dealer 647 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: didn't treat her right and they charged her for an 648 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: oil change. And I looked at it and I said, 649 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: jen what's wrong with this invoice? And she said, well, 650 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know anything about cars. And 651 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: I said, well, you don't have to know anything about cars. 652 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: I said, let's put some common sense to this. I 653 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: said thirty for an oil change retire rotation and a look, 654 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: she said yeah. I said how much is a court oil? 655 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: She says, I don't know. I said, well I can 656 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: tell you. You go through the supermarket next time, pick 657 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: up a quart of synthetic oil. They're five to six bucks, 658 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: all right, I said, the car takes four quarts oil 659 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 1: four times six is twenty four with an oil filter 660 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: that makes it thirty. They did an oil change for 661 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: eight dollars labor. I said, does that seem right? She 662 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: goes no, How can they be making any money? I 663 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: said exactly. I said, they're not making any money. They're 664 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: using it as a loss leader, and that's why you're 665 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: getting hit with all those other charges. So just apply 666 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: common sense. How does your repair shop treat you? Something 667 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: to think about until the next time. I'm ronin Ay 668 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: in the car doctor, reminding chin every one of you. 669 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you