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Speaker 1: So when they do these conjugal visits that get like

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Speaker 1: They don't know. They did the autopsy. That man strangled her.

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Speaker 1: Why I don't because he's a murderer. And that's what

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Speaker 1: are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind where

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Speaker 1: a drunk mind speaks. So we thought we got some

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Speaker 1: guests today. We got some guess today, okay, y'all. So

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Speaker 1: first of all, it's very rare that we have two

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Speaker 1: trying to facilitate this link up for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but y'all know me, I don't be remembering what I

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Speaker 1: from Sisters Who Kill Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank y'all so much for I'm excited for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I said. One thing that I wanted to make

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Speaker 1: like I hate when people say, oh, take the mics away,

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Speaker 1: take the mics away, No, we need to get more.

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Speaker 1: It's not enough of us in this space. Truly, Like

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Speaker 1: And then I hate when people complain about, oh, this

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Speaker 2: I agree with that for sure. An y'all are best friends.

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Speaker 2: We love having besties on the colt. We ever had

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Speaker 2: But y'all happened to be busy, just like yeah, because

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Speaker 2: y'all tell us a little bit about how y'all met

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Speaker 1: How we met.

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Speaker 3: Marian and I went to high school together, okay, and

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Speaker 2: And so we weren't friends at first, but high school,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Since okay, So what made y'all get

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Speaker 2: But we've honestly we've made mistakes. Like we've talked about

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Speaker 1: So yeah, have y'all ever like delete an episode or

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Speaker 3: And I don't think anything's ever became too much drama

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Speaker 1: Okay, So y'all have been doing the podcast since what

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Speaker 2: And so they listen to other podcasts that represent them. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I cannot separate the art from the artist. I can't

436
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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: I can depending on what it is, like if it's

438
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Speaker 1: just because like like for example, Cynthia Ribo, Okay, y'all

439
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: feel some way because she took that lady from that

440
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: other lady. Whatever? That ain't you know that people? Yeah,

441
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm just using that for the people who use that

442
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: for an example, not her African American comments. Yeah, I understand,

443
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: but or for even for Ariana Grande. If people don't

444
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: like stuff like that is like, okay, whatever, But if

445
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: it's like as something as serious as the crimes that

446
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: R Kelly did, that her kid, Yeah, that literally has victims,

447
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: women crying and saying how this has affected their entire lives.

448
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: And it's always like she said, oh, they were fast,

449
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: they went out looking for him.

450
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Speaker 2: And you know that the r Kla case is honestly

451
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: so triggering for me because he knew exactly he had

452
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Speaker 2: a victim profile. Just like a murderer. He was looking

453
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: for young black women that were a strange from their families,

454
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: that wanted to that wanted to have a musical career, right, yeah,

455
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: And I just think about myself, like I was a

456
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: strange from my family, fresh into college at an HBC.

457
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: You really wanted to get my career off the ground.

458
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, like I fit his victim profile

459
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Speaker 2: like that one. That's the one where it's like that

460
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: one hits so close to home that I think I

461
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: watched the first documentary. When the other ones came, I

462
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: just literally can't because people don't realize that just because

463
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: it's not murder doesn't mean that it wasn't a crime. Right,

464
00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: It's a serious crime. So yeah, it's hardy. It's very

465
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: cringey online when people get online and they like, well,

466
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Speaker 2: I don't care what R.

467
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: Kelly did. I'm still going to listen to his music.

468
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: You sound crazy as fuck because if this was your daughter,

469
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: your niece, your sister, you will be raising hell. But

470
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: because it doesn't affect you, you don't care. Oh, let's

471
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: still at least Le's step in the name a lot, right, No.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think every now and then we do

473
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Speaker 1: have a case that kind of the case of Nazaiah Hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking about that, yeah, because that's

475
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Speaker 2: what I was really like.

476
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Speaker 1: I had got so caught up in this case in

477
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Speaker 1: January of this year, So Desai, if y'all don't know,

478
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Deasaia Harris was a thirteen year old girl who was

479
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: allegedly murdered by her aunt's boyfriend and they had a

480
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Speaker 1: sexual relationship between them two. She had allegedly gotten pregnant.

481
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Speaker 1: He found out, and you know, she went missing. She

482
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Speaker 1: went missing. And I think sometimes now I do like

483
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Speaker 1: the fact I feel like TikTok has kind of changed

484
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Speaker 1: things a little bit, a little bit, And I'll tell

485
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Speaker 1: you why, because I feel like a lot of times

486
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: these stories like I'm not gonna lie. Did I turn

487
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: on the TV and see Nazaiah story? No, But I

488
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: was able to get on TikTok because now we are

489
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Speaker 1: in a time where people don't really go to like

490
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Speaker 1: we don't have like the Nancy Grace anymore. You know

491
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Every time he turned on the TV, she

492
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: was on what was that lady? Ain't that killed her daughter?

493
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh Jody?

494
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, so Casey, but her daughter was,

495
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: but she was on her ass every day without letting up.

496
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: We don't really have that anymore. So I can say

497
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot of TikTok creators who do true crime,

498
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Speaker 1: and they specifically focus on black victims, especially young black

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Speaker 1: girl victims. So I feel like TikTok really helped get

500
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Speaker 1: her story out there, and that's why a lot of

501
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: people started talking about it and it ended up being

502
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Speaker 1: on Court TV and stuff like that. So do y'all

503
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Speaker 1: kind of feel like TikTok helps her hinder things?

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Speaker 2: I would say, I think TikTok is it's to Google.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, but like it definitely gives a way

506
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Speaker 3: for people to push their stuff out there in a

507
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: much bigger sense than we had the abilities to do

508
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: in the nineties even the early two thousand. Like my Space,

509
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Speaker 3: even if you make a post, it's only going to

510
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Speaker 3: your friends, TikTok has the opportunity to go viral and.

511
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Right thousands and stuff. So it's definitely a resource.

512
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you didn't have back then.

513
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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, you we have to put

514
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: it out there because if we don't, nobody else is.

515
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: I remember I was reading an article. This is actually

516
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 2: a few years ago, so the numbers have probably changed now,

517
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: but I remember I was reading an article and it

518
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Speaker 2: said like three hundred thousand women are missing in the

519
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Speaker 2: United States, and thirty percent of them are Black women,

520
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: but we only make up fourteen percent of the population.

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Speaker 2: That's really insane if you think about it. In South

522
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Speaker 2: a lot of these local a lot of local governments

523
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: and like states have to make up their own rules.

524
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: They have to make up stuff like the Ebuity alert

525
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: because the federal government is doing nothing to help find

526
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: these black missing women and girls.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of the Ebony alert. Yeah, it's similar

528
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: to the Amber alert. The Amber alert before black women

529
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Speaker 1: I never knew.

530
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Speaker 2: And the thing is, since the federal government has been

531
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: doing it like it's state by states. Some states don't care.

532
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: They do not care. They don't care if you are

533
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: a victim, they don't care if you're missing. They don't

534
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Speaker 2: care unless you have the money to give to them.

535
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: And some states are they have the people involved that

536
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: are doing but a lot of these red states still

537
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: do not care and they won't lift a finger for you.

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Speaker 1: So what do y'all think, Like, are the best ways that, like, say,

539
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: has anybody ever reached out to y'all like, Hey, this

540
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: is what's going on. Can y'all report on this so

541
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I can get my story out there of what's going on.

542
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: How do y'all handle stuff like that.

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00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't think we've handled it yet because right now

544
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: we cover finished cases, right, Okay, we tell the case

545
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: from beginning to end. So for somebody to say can't

546
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: tell the story, it doesn't necessarily fit our format. But

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Speaker 3: I do like to like, if somebody comes to me

548
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: and says, hey, bring awareness to this black girl missing,

549
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: I'd be like, you should go to black Girl Gong

550
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: where she's highlighted. She's got people focusing on black girl missing,

551
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: and that's like a better platform for you to use. Yeah,

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00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean.

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00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, y'all to know that there are platforms out there,

554
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: like yeah, people are doing it as will. And even

555
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: in our discussion group, we have like twenty five thousand

556
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: people in there, and all they do is discuss true crime.

557
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: So they were constantly keeping up with cases. They'll even

558
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: post for each other.

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Speaker 3: There was a time where somebody's family member went missing

560
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: and the discus.

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00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: They found them.

562
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: My family, your family member went missing.

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Speaker 2: One of my one of my little cousins went missing

564
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: in Texas, and so I was just and I was

565
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Speaker 2: just like, I have this platform. My little cousin is missing.

566
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: About him, and then one of our fans reached out

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Speaker 2: Dallas and he was like, oh, yeah, I've seen him

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Speaker 2: and was able to reach out. So I was able

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Speaker 2: the palace, so they all were able to reunite and

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Speaker 2: find him. So yeah, we found him.

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Speaker 1: I looked on Netflix right mm hm. And you know

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Speaker 1: there's a whole true crime section. When I tell y'all,

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Speaker 1: there's no stories about black women on there, Oh yeah, none.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm scrolling, they have all these American murder, American

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not taking away from their stories

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, we're still women

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Speaker 1: and we're still victims. But I did not see I

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Speaker 1: think the only story that I saw I don't need

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Speaker 1: to start. I should have wrote down these people's names,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know I was going to be bringing up.

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Speaker 1: What was the girl's name? She has a short film

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Speaker 1: on Netflix. She it was like in the eighties or nineties,

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Speaker 1: and she was in La and she was going to

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Speaker 1: get like a soda out of the store and the Chinese.

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Speaker 2: Oh, her anniversary just came up. The anniversary of her

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Speaker 2: death just came up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And he basically shot her because he thought she

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Speaker 1: was stealing, but shot her at like point blank range,

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Speaker 1: like righting her face.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know it's you. I know who you's starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't think of her name right now,

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Speaker 1: but that's like the only story that I've seen on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: And I always ask myself why, and I think part

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Speaker 2: of it is the lack of coverage, like people just

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Speaker 2: don't care, the government, entities don't care. And I think

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Speaker 2: another part of it is that it's really fun on

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Speaker 2: these white true crime podcasts because you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of witnesses. Black folks don't want to talk to the

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Speaker 2: TV about their crimes or their cousins mama's crimes. And

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Speaker 2: I think that it's something in the culture that we

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Speaker 2: have which I think helps us in some ways, but

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Speaker 2: it also hinders us in other ways. Like we did.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just want to say her name. I

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Speaker 1: just googled it. It's Latasha Harlan's. I just want to

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Speaker 1: say her name, just so you know.

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Speaker 2: We did a case in Detroit, no in Saint Louis,

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00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: and somebody was like, dang, y'all finally did a case

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00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, like we always there's always crimes, and

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00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, but all the crimes are gang related.

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00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: And this crime somebody killed somebody because somebody was a

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Speaker 2: witness to this crime, and it was because of the

650
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Speaker 2: reason that it came out was because people were snitching.

651
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to tell the crimes because nobody wants to

652
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: interupate in the next victim. So I guess the question

653
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: is how do we bring light to these stories while

654
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: also bringing peace to the community because people don't want.

655
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: To talk, right, Are y'all afraid to tell stories like

656
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: that when it is like gang related stuff? Or do

657
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: y'all strapped up? That's how everything. I keep that on

658
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: me because I'm not gonna lie it be sometimes like

659
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: I'll deep dive into stuff and like because I had

660
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: this whole like moment where I was like really deep

661
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: into like all the ship Oh my god.

662
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: It was just so I think the Chicago one we

663
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: did k I and people, they was like, I don't.

664
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Know if I should be covering that little girl was

665
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: something deep dives, and I mean I was just glued.

666
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean I was googling, googling, and we was watching

667
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: it together. It was so good but.

668
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: So much And like when we covered that case, I

669
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: had to get a board and I was writing, Okay,

670
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: so he mad at him for this, so that he

671
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: retaliated to them.

672
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: So that was her cousin, so now she in it.

673
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: It's and now he's smoking on somebody in the lyrics

674
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: because he died ten years ago.

675
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: But then he retaliated with this rap discy.

676
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: It'd be so much and it's so alarming how young

677
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, they'd be like twelve on yuys, wetn't

678
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: that block up twelve?

679
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: And I already got a couple bodies And I'm like,

680
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what that meant the.

681
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: Girl.

682
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: But I said that because I remember I was talking

683
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: about on the show for a little bit, and it

684
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: was people in the comments like, lex keep it cute,

685
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: watch out you making jokes. I'm like, I am from

686
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Orange Texas. I don't want no, I've never talked, but

687
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy about that stuff is that it's

688
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: still going on, Like yeah, so for stuff like that.

689
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: That's why I said I tread lightly on certain things.

690
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: Though.

691
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Do y'all feel like y'all have to tread lightly on

692
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: like certain stories that y'all do, or y'all to be like,

693
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't care. Look, we just reporting these stories.

694
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: Most of most of them weren't gang related. I feel

695
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: like the only reason one when you hear a lot

696
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: about a gang related body, it's not usually black women.

697
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: It's usually black men.

698
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

699
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that narrows our pull a lot.

700
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: And I think this one was also sensationalized. There's a

701
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: lot of coverage out there already, and so we're just

702
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: going to, like these people said, and these people trying

703
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: to get careful about it. But I just I don't

704
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: know that we necessarily get the opportunity to even that

705
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: to tread.

706
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Lightly because I know they was in them comments with

707
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: that chaos story because yeah, yeah, because then it got

708
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: with King Vaughan and that story too. I said, oh,

709
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: this tea too.

710
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: But then I felt like with King von being a

711
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: part of it, that's what sensationalized and made it more

712
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: more of a mainstream.

713
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Topic, right right, That's why people cared about it. Okay,

714
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: So what we brink into that, girl, because this is

715
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: very good and refreshing.

716
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I was over here looking up some of these.

717
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: You hold on strong, girl.

718
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: A couple more months. So this cocktail is going cocktail

719
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: or mocktail. This one is gonna be called killing me softly.

720
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: So for this one, you can add any spirit of choice,

721
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: or you can rock it as a mocktail like me

722
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Andrea and we have some honey gensing green tail. Oh

723
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, please, yes, we have some let me

724
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: let me say that again. So this is the killing

725
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: me softly. You can have any spirit of choice or

726
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: rocket as a mocktail as Mariah, myself, Drea over here, okay,

727
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: were sipping it softly, all right. This one has some

728
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: honey gensing gen This one has some honey gensing tea,

729
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: some green tea in there, some basils, some honeycomb, a

730
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: little bit of lemon, and then I made an actual

731
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: basil honey for it as well, so you're getting a

732
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: little bit of that herb. And then we topped it

733
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: off with a little bit of a ginger beer the garnish.

734
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: We have a beautiful honeycomb in there, and then some

735
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: fresh basil leaves, perfect for spring, perfect for the girls

736
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: out there. So this is the killing me softly.

737
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: This is y'all delicious. Maybe is this a new hairstyle?

738
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

739
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I learned to blend in my little lady look. I

740
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: went outside the other day.

741
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: I was bogus and I love the red lip too,

742
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: thank you. Okay, so let's get into topic number two.

743
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: So for topic number two, I thought this would be

744
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: a funny topic. I really wanted to talk about love

745
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: behind bars and how like, so many women fall in

746
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: love with men that are incarcerated, and a lot of

747
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: the time when you see, at least this is my opinion,

748
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of the time women go

749
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: for men that are incarcerated because they feel like, oh,

750
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna be loyal to me. He don't have no options,

751
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: he don't have no choices, and that's usually the reason

752
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: why they want to date them in the first place. First,

753
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: that a lot, Go ahead, girl, because I think that's

754
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: a lot too.

755
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: I think he will be in there and he got

756
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: nothing to do but write several different women all day,

757
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: so feeling dreams.

758
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: What you think?

759
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: I had an ex and my exes Mama's boyfriend was

760
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: in jail. Yeah, I know. That took a while, and

761
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: while we were in college, she was getting artwork from

762
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: her exes Mama's boyfriend because that he made out of

763
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: trash bags because he was so bored and had nothing

764
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: else to do. And I also think that.

765
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: They're cheating.

766
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: They chat, and it's crazy to me because people in there, I.

767
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: Mean, you don't see you don't see in the jail shows,

768
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: and they be sending the notes through the toilets.

769
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: In there, especially if you especially if you're just in

770
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: jail and you ain't made it to prison, you can

771
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: definitely the women are right on the other side.

772
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.

773
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't I.

774
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: Personally don't understand why you would do that because like

775
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: he's not working, you're putting money on his books, like

776
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: sometimes to talk to him, Like how do y'all even meet?

777
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: Like you gotta call through his mama or something. Yeah,

778
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

779
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: It's it's not for me.

780
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: Same But well, I was just gonna say, cause I

781
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: have somebody that I know personally, I have a family member.

782
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: They were in jail for a really long time and

783
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: then they got married while they were in jail and

784
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: still married. Now ended up getting out of jail, still married,

785
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: but they had a baby on the way, not by

786
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: their wife.

787
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh.

788
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm like when people are saying, oh,

789
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: I think that they're gonna be loyal to me and

790
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: they don't have options. No, baby, they gonna find options,

791
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: especially once.

792
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: They get out.

793
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna find an option once they're back outside. It's

794
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: a pleasan rov options because they're not even used to

795
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: seeing women all the time. They're not even used to

796
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: having this much access. So it's plenty of options, and

797
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: especially if they find right.

798
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I have ru pid niggas, be fine my family, but

799
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: to work out.

800
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is okay, he's Jesus, I had an exit.

801
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: Went to jail on our show. He's called redacted number

802
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: one and redacted number one, and I love it. He

803
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: he went to jail like my sophomore year of college.

804
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 2: And we weren't together, but like we were always very close,

805
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: and so I remember his mom was like, hey, redacted

806
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: number one got locked up. I put you on his

807
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: list so he can call you. And I was just like,

808
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: oh for what for burglary? When I know y'all got

809
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: my money, So I stopped answering his phone calls. All

810
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he started having conversation with another girl

811
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: that it was his friend's girlfriend at one point, and

812
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: her and I never liked each other, but now they're

813
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: married and they live happily ever after. So I guess

814
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: jail love is for those who's it's for, but.

815
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: It was not for me. I mean it worked out

816
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: for some people.

817
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: We I personally used to love watching Love.

818
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: After a Life, That's what we were just talking about

819
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Carter filming. Yeah, I used to love this show. Now,

820
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean it worked for some people. Now I do

821
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: out a horror story now, y'all. I've seen this on

822
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: TikTok last night. I had to google her name because

823
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't like not saying people names. So there was

824
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: a woman sixty two years old. Her name is Stephanie Brinson.

825
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Her husband has been in jail since like the nineties.

826
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: She went to visit him conjugal visit. So when they

827
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: do these conjugal visits that get like thirty to forty

828
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: hours in these like apartment style things. Hours, Yeah, they

829
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: can stay there for like a whole day, you know,

830
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: if you're married. So she, I mean, this is her husband.

831
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: She went to visit that man. He's like, hey, my

832
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: wife passed out. You know, something's going on. So they're like,

833
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know they and she passed away.

834
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: They don't know. They did the autopsy. That man strangled her. Why,

835
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't because he's a murderer and that's what they do.

836
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: Points was made. It's not funny, it's not. But this

837
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: is the thing, and I'm not blaming her, but this

838
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: is the thing. I was talking to my homegirl this morning.

839
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I feel like right now and I'm bringing this back

840
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: to relationships. I know y'all gonna be like, lex please

841
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: be for real, But this is why I just feel

842
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: for my Black women so bad. Like we are the

843
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: highest demographic who are unmarried, right, and I feel like

844
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we just get so desperate for companionship because why

845
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: are you, as a free woman, as a free woman

846
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: dedicating and not just her, not just Stephanie, just any woman.

847
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Why you are free? Why are you dedicating something? And

848
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting out, He would send it to life.

849
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: He can't even go to trial for her murder because

850
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: he's already serving life.

851
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: But how do y'all feel about Okay, so murderer is

852
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: offling me, But how do you feel about somebody you

853
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: know that's in the face, like byby.

854
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: A little wire fraud, little for the car fraud?

855
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: Not when you come out like there's a okay if

856
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: there's nothing on your resume, but why fraud when you

857
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: come out? How are you gonna pay for my lifestyle?

858
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

859
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: In trouble for telling this story, I hope not. But

860
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: I had a guy used today a long time ago,

861
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: and he was skimming the pieces, was hitting life of friends. Okay,

862
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I've had me a skimmer or two. Yeah, but it

863
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: was like he had gotten some trouble and they froze

864
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: all his accounts. They took everything from him, and it

865
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: was like right before he went in, he was like,

866
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, I really wanted to make this work with us,

867
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, you you ain't got they took

868
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: all yours. I'm not holding it down. Yeah, I'm just

869
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: not a holding down type of woman. Like I said,

870
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm freezing. I don't commit crime. So I just feel like,

871
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: and let me say this, it's not only black women

872
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: who do this. I know we're just talking about black

873
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: women because we are black women. But I do think

874
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: that a lot of that comes with the fear of loneliness.

875
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I think the fear of loneliness gets us into a

876
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: lot of bullshity, Like you would be so happier, so

877
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: much more happier if you just learned to find peace

878
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: and being alone.

879
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: That pressure is that community pressure is still on specifically

880
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: black women. Yeah, for sure that Even I know women

881
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: that haven't been a church in years that still are

882
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: under church pressure. And I think it almost makes you

883
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: feel like if I'm not doing this, then I'm dishonoring

884
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: my family. I'm not married before I get pregnant, if

885
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm not financially stable, if I'm not cooking every night,

886
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: if I'm not providing or not having a man that provides,

887
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: then I'm doing a disservice to my entire family, my

888
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: entire community. And I feel like that pressure is so antiquated,

889
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: but it's still so so so real, especially in the South.

890
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. For sure. I mean you have to realize,

891
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: like every time we post a clip and we speak

892
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: our minds, oh I want and you see why they're single. Yeah, listen,

893
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: let me tell everybody out there, being single is not

894
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: a dis It is not a this especially when you

895
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: know who you are and you know what you want

896
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: out of life. I know exactly what I want to partner.

897
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: If I don't get that, I'm okay with being alone.

898
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. And I'm not

899
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: finna go talk today they in jail, just so I

900
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: can say I have a husband, for sure.

901
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: And I think it gets worse to its obviously as

902
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: you get older, because I do feel like a lot

903
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: of the time when you watch these shows like Love

904
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: After lock Up and Stuff, a lot of the people

905
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: on the show be like older women a lot of

906
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: the time, because we talked about these on an episode

907
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: of Poor Minds. But the desperation of getting in your thirties,

908
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: the being in your thirties, I think it's something about

909
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: when you hit thirty mid thirties, you just like, oh,

910
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't have the baby yet, I don't have the

911
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: husband yet, I don't have the ring yet. What am

912
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: I gonna do?

913
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: And then you just end up settling for boushie. I'll

914
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: be four, I'll be forty in four years. I don't care.

915
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: You were saying that, like it's gonna be four months, right, But.

916
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but if you put that in perspective four years,

917
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: we'd be like, oh it's so long. Yeah time, I'm

918
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna be forty before I know it. But when I

919
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: tell you I don't care, I do not care about like, Okay,

920
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: if it's supposed to happen for me, my faith is

921
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: stronger than my doubts. So whatever is for me, it's

922
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: always going to be in my lap. So I know

923
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: we getting a little off top of it like we

924
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: do per usual, But I just I really I think

925
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: it's a little different situation, like if you're married and

926
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: your husband does something and he ends up in jail.

927
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Maybe a little wild fraud, a little something. It's not

928
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: necessarily something that I would per se maybe deal with.

929
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been in that situation, but

930
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: I can understand maybe women like, Okay, he's going to jail,

931
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: Like what's the name Yandy M? And d what him

932
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: in DC go to jail?

933
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Was it?

934
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: I think I was? It was?

935
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: I think it was.

936
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Was it fraud or wasn't like a gun because you

937
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: know they in New York? Why it was it? I

938
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: thought it was a little it was a little want

939
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: to speak in d C because come over here, I

940
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: was in your d M or Yandy, whoever was in

941
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: your d M. That was me, honey, it's but anyways.

942
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, he wasn't in there that long. I think

943
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: he was in there for like maybe two years. That's

944
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 2: cocaine and we was all.

945
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: All white bricks. Would have been a little bit.

946
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: Is he cleaning his money properly? Like is he gonna

947
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: be am? I gonna be set for two years?

948
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

949
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean wandering in restaurants and people in their

950
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: money they do I need a go Saint Patrick?

951
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so I understand Yandy.

952
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: I can understand Yandy waiting two years. That's a little different,

953
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. But if you literally

954
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, they have whole web sites where like you

955
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: can find men who are.

956
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: In specifically, you can find women too.

957
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have.

958
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: We just did a case and the girl is in

959
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: prison for the rest of her life and she.

960
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: Has a man.

961
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: They they they fell in love. They met in a

962
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Christian group and even though she has life in prison

963
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: without the possibility.

964
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Of she did something real bad murder.

965
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: Of course, it's the only time hoping to get out

966
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: so that she can actually get married to this man

967
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: that is a he looks like an old deacon.

968
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

969
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: But I mean the men do it too, I mean

970
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: men get desperate, just like yeah.

971
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely do. Because I think it's across the

972
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: board for sure. You see it on love after lock up.

973
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: There'd be them old men that be dating the young

974
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: girls that went to jail for like robbery or something,

975
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: and they be running it up. A lot of the

976
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: no shade to the city girls, but a lot of

977
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: the city girls are in jail. The city girls type

978
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: with girls you know from scamming robbin. You know, they

979
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: was running it up, swipe people cars when they're not

980
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: supposed to ye doing all that. But they go to

981
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: jail and they find these men who were still willing

982
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: to give them a chance.

983
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: Were y'all scared, like with a scammer, Like what if

984
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: y'all was in Louis and like he just brought you

985
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: a purse and he swipes the car and what does

986
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: this car say? Has an alert on it? And they say,

987
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: please stay here. And now you're stuck with him in

988
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: the store, with your Louis and your chanelle. But they

989
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: about to take you too. Girl, don't tell you nothing

990
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: about me. I don't care about sneeche, cause I damn

991
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: sure would have been like, I ain't know nothing about that.

992
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: This ain't got nothing to do with me. But something

993
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: like that never happened to me before. But I was

994
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: dating this guy back in the day when I was

995
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: probably like twenty four, and he was a scammer and

996
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: we had went to a club.

997
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: He had got a sex. She bought like five bottles.

998
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: Oh tab was like.

999
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred dollars. That's a good time. They come out,

1000
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: the waitress come out it's time for him to pay

1001
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: the tab cars.

1002
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: The pieces is not hitting.

1003
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: He goes through like four or five cards, pieces is

1004
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: still not hitting. And I'm like, I hope you know

1005
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: not looking at me because I'm about to pay his shit.

1006
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm about to zip on your ass. I order the

1007
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: orange juice girl. Luckily, though, he ended up finally like

1008
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: he was with a few of his friends and one

1009
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: of his friends had a little piece that he But yeah,

1010
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: I definitely not seeing it happen.

1011
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: I had a situation happened to me. I just told

1012
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: the story on scam God. It shout out to Lacy.

1013
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: I was dating this guy and he's not even a scammer. Okay,

1014
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: he is a very wealthy guy from his business, like

1015
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: and I know exactly what he does because he actually

1016
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: has helped me with my business. So, but what he

1017
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: did was he had like a little connect, what he

1018
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: thought of was a connect on flights, and that person

1019
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: was the scammer. So we had went on a trip

1020
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: and he was just so pressed to fly on American

1021
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I like to fly Delta, but I

1022
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: feel like I remember yes, but I'm like, what, like,

1023
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: why are you so pressed to fly American. So we

1024
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: flew American first class. Baby, went to a beautiful resort,

1025
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: had a wonderful time, came back first class. Okay, I'm

1026
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: happens my man, I'm in Hell. I'm posting in my

1027
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: close friends like this is the one. You know what

1028
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He icy the whole trip. I'm like, oh,

1029
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: it's so cold in Mexico. With all her I'm having

1030
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: the time of life. Then I get on Facebook, because

1031
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, obviously my government name is not lex P.

1032
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: So I get on my Facebook, my my real Facebook

1033
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: that my fans, my friends and family are on. I

1034
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: have this message and they're like, hey, they say my

1035
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: full government name, middle name too. You took a flight

1036
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: to such and such Mexico on this state with he

1037
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: said his full name, and you used my miles. I

1038
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: need to know how you got my account and how

1039
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: you girl. I must have deleted him and blocked him

1040
00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: so quiet, because the thing is, you are literally wealthy.

1041
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Why did you do that?

1042
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: You get And that's what I don't understand. There's a

1043
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: lot of people that have money that like to steal.

1044
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: There's lots of people that have money that like to

1045
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: rob people. Yeah, like, why not make it honest, so fun,

1046
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: to make it honest.

1047
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, maybe it's greed, but no, some

1048
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: people just love thrilled.

1049
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so it's.

1050
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: Been I think he was being cheap. Really, yes, I

1051
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: don't think he has a thrill of it. I just

1052
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: think he was like, okay, because honestly, the resort we

1053
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: say that it was like a two thousand dollars night resort.

1054
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: I think he was. He had we had went shopping,

1055
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: he had bought me some stuff, he had sent me

1056
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: somebody to get ready. I think he was just like, man,

1057
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: look this dish bitch, don't cost me fifteen bands, put

1058
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: a corner somewhere, and crazy enough to a lot of

1059
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: the time people don't think that they're gonna get caught. Yeah,

1060
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Like I think he did it. Yeah, he did it essentially.

1061
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: Are you sure that shit?

1062
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: When the person messaged you, did you just like I'm

1063
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: for the person?

1064
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: I locked him and I kind of like do I

1065
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: debated my Facebook for a few weeks. Yeah, and at

1066
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: the time when it happened, because he didn't DM me

1067
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: till like months later and me and him had fell off,

1068
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: so I didn't even I don't even think did I

1069
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: ever tell him. I think I did tell him. I

1070
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: think he just laughed it off because he's so nonchalant

1071
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: about stuff like that, because he was probably like, oh yeah,

1072
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: I think I did tell me. He was like, oh yeah,

1073
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: I found out that dude was skimming, because honestly, I

1074
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: don't think he knew at the time, because it was

1075
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: he thought it was gonna be like a type of

1076
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: like Buddy Pass type of situation. Oh, I gave him

1077
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: X amount of money, I can fly free for the year,

1078
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: But he didn't know this guy worked for American but

1079
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: he was stealing people's miles and stuff. So I think

1080
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: whenever he found out, he was like, oh yeah, he

1081
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: was on some some whatever and I just got my

1082
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: money back from him because it was like, you want

1083
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: some bullshit. And he after that like we started you know,

1084
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: talking again, and I had we had flew to different

1085
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: locations Delta.

1086
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: But I'm bad. I'm sitting here like I need a

1087
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: friend like that that can find me some miles, right.

1088
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think when it comes to like crimes

1089
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: and stuff, I'm snitching. I don't know nothing. But also

1090
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: when a man doesn't want to tell you what he

1091
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: does for a living, on the first date. Don't have

1092
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: a red leg. Don't ask because what like what y'all

1093
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: do for a living? If y'all go on the first

1094
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: date and somebody's like, oh, what do you do?

1095
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

1096
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: You know I do this, you're proud of it. If

1097
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: you are a successful person in your field, you are

1098
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: proud of what you do. Baby, I do not shut

1099
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: up about poor minds, right, you know what I'm saying.

1100
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: So if you're on the first day and you ask

1101
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: somebody what they do, they're like, oh, you know, I

1102
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: got some business. I'm a street pharmacist. Okay, I gotta

1103
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: feel in this prophet, you know what I'm saying. Okay,

1104
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: love to be in.

1105
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 4: They love a good robbin at Lord, Oh my god. Okay,

1106
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: So we.

1107
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: Have y'all ever dated somebody like though behind bars, like

1108
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: talk to him?

1109
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: Okay, good, I have an access in prison for life.

1110
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: Oh murder murder? I was just dumb too.

1111
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the fines was there?

1112
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: You know what?

1113
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So I did not date him while he was

1114
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: on a murder spree. Well, I was gonna say he was.

1115
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: Like his praying everybody.

1116
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: I dated this guy. He actually was like my summer

1117
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: camp middle school summer camp boyfriend okay, And I remember

1118
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: everybody was like, Mari, you're such a goody two shoes,

1119
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: like that's not the person that you want to be with.

1120
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you talking about? Like

1121
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm going into the seventh grade.

1122
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you talking about?

1123
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: Like him and are gonna be together forever? And so

1124
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: obviously we broke up because the summer ended and I

1125
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: had to go back to school and he ended up

1126
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: going to high school with us, and we're actually going

1127
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: to tell the story on our Patreon. But now he's

1128
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: in prison for the rest of his life for murder.

1129
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: And all my friends are like, remember when you used

1130
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: to date him in middle school? And I'm like, yes, murder,

1131
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1132
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm so far.

1133
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: For me.

1134
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: What you mean that man that your ex that passed away?

1135
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

1136
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: But he passed away long after I stopped sucking him,

1137
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: though that ain't have nothing to do with me.

1138
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Yes, RB, what's up y'all?

1139
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: As your girl x PE and it's your girl Drada.

1140
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: Call and we have a very exciting announcement today. We

1141
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: have a brand new show dropping.

1142
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: Yes, we have a brand new shower dropping y'all on Patreon.

1143
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna air on September second, and it's called Poor Chronicles.

1144
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna be doing so much stuff on there. We're

1145
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: gonna be doing challenges. If you can't go to Bella

1146
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: dche where the hell.

1147
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: Could you go? If you can't go to Bellache, what

1148
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: the hell we're gonna be doing?

1149
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: Talk to me, chit chat with me.

1150
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna be feeling at Little Tea.

1151
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 4: Oh my god, No you didn't.

1152
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: Y'all everything y'all been wanting to see, We're gonna be

1153
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: doing it right here on Patreon.

1154
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: Yes, y'all ask us for so much. Well, we've been

1155
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: to give it to y'all every single Monday, and it's

1156
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a time. Y'all know Poor Minds has grown

1157
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: into its own little entity. Well, we're gonna have a

1158
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: lot of fun still over here at Poor Chronicles. So

1159
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: make sure y'all tune in September second. It's going down.

1160
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Ever since I was a little girl, I've

1161
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: loved being on camera, entertaining myself and everybody around me

1162
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: by sharing my thoughts and opinions on anything pop culture.

1163
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: For the past few years, i've heard your requests. But

1164
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: now it's finally time to deliver. Okay, y'all, let's get

1165
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: into the teeth with love.

1166
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 4: Tasty that I've put on the list.

1167
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 5: Y'all.

1168
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: Is never settled, And if you're an avid listener of

1169
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: Poor Minds, then you probably have heard me say these

1170
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: numerous times.

1171
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 5: Like I say this all the time, I've always felt

1172
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: this way.

1173
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: Don't ever settle for anything in life if it's not

1174
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: exactly what you want. Don't let people tell you that

1175
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: you cannot get what you want out of these life

1176
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: because it's absolutely possible.

1177
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 5: I had so many people when I was in my

1178
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 5: twenties telling me.

1179
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: That the things that I wanted was unrealistic, unreasonable, and

1180
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: if I had listened to those people, I wouldn't be

1181
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: where I am today.

1182
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 5: It's not for anybody else to understand that.

1183
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: As long as you know what it is and you

1184
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: willing to put the work in to get the things

1185
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: that you want, you don't have to settle.

1186
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: And don't let people convince you that you have to settle.

1187
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: It's usually people that are settling in their own life

1188
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: that try to, you know, make other people feel like, oh,

1189
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: you can't do this, or you can't make that happen.

1190
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 5: You're thinking too far outside the box? How you gonna

1191
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 5: do that? Up?

1192
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: Now?

1193
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: Boom, you can't. I could do whatever I want to do, Okay,

1194
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: and I will, so yeah, don't.

1195
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: Ok So, now it's time to get into the bed

1196
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: out be bow that be about bow bow bow. All right, y'all.

1197
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little tipsy now and I had a shot

1198
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: in a half, so I'm feeling good. Okay, So for

1199
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: the bad topic today, We're gonna talk about the connection

1200
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: between crime and sex. I'm sorry, y'all, I'm having a

1201
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: ball because I'm just I love to get in the

1202
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: true crime. Oh my gosh. Okay, so y'all know, obviously

1203
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into this topic. I'm gonna tellyall what

1204
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: it is. I promise. So I remember this snapped episode, right, Okay.

1205
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: It was this story about this lady in Atlanta and

1206
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: she had met the bachelor of her dreams. He got money,

1207
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: he in a high rise, he does all this stuff.

1208
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: And she found out he was dating other women. I

1209
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: mean this in Atlanta, hello, what would you think? And

1210
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: she went to his house and they had dinner, she

1211
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 1: like cooked him dinner or something, and they had sex

1212
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: and she waited till he fell asleep, shot him in

1213
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: the face while he was sleep, left, threw the gun

1214
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: out the window, and she almost got away with it.

1215
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Do y'all know why she didn't get away with it?

1216
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: It's because a found the gun and they connected it

1217
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: back to her. She would have if she would have

1218
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: like really took that gun and hid it somewhere, they

1219
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: would have liked never found it. It was a random

1220
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: person that like saw something glistening in the grass and

1221
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: they were like, eh, it's the treasure. Pick it up.

1222
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: And it was a gun, and they turned it in

1223
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: and connected it back to her. So I want to

1224
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: talk about crimes of passion with said, do y'all think

1225
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: the thrill of crime and sex are connected or is

1226
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: it more so like sometimes it did be too good

1227
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: and you'd be losing your mind.

1228
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: I mean, crimes of passion have been going on since

1229
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: biblical time. I definitely feel that.

1230
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: In the Bible, who did they les flee?

1231
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: But I feel like, seriously though, like this has been

1232
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: going on for a really long time, like women are

1233
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: the number one reason for wars. Do you really think

1234
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: about it? So absolutely I think it's connected. I mean

1235
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: not recently, but in probably the past five years. It

1236
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: was an Atlanta rapper who passed away who ended up

1237
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: getting killed because somebody boyfriend came home. He was at

1238
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: a woman's house and her boyfriend came home and a

1239
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: boyfriend shot her, I mean shot him and killed him.

1240
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: Though it happens all the time.

1241
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: So do y'all feel like most of the cases that

1242
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: y'all do, it's because of a woman scorned like a

1243
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: woman scorn like her man she snapped you know what?

1244
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: Yes, risingly, not a lot of our cases are like that,

1245
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: but I think we also tried to separate them out.

1246
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: But you would be surprised how many people killed just

1247
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: because their lover is acting up or their lover decides

1248
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: that they wanted to start taking the money away. We

1249
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: had a case, it's very very popular case in Atlanta

1250
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: called the lady's name is Dion Baugh, and she was

1251
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: dating this guy Super. He was like super big businessman

1252
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, very well known, and he had multiple women

1253
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: Like at his funeral, his secretary was getting credit cards

1254
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: from all these women that will authorized users on his accounts.

1255
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: The women were like, he's dead and we don't know

1256
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: what to.

1257
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: Do with his credit cards.

1258
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't want to. They didn't know who the

1259
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: murderer was at the time, so they want to me.

1260
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, thought so.

1261
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: And he wanted to cut her off, and so she

1262
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: got very upset and in the middle of the night

1263
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: came to his house and bludgeoned him to death. And

1264
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: what the craziest part about this story for me is

1265
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: everybody talked about him being a clean man, but they

1266
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: could figure out which woman did it because this was

1267
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: like a while ago before people for waxing was very popular.

1268
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: When they went into his bed, there was like multiple

1269
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: women's pubic hair. Oh, and so they were like, we

1270
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: need to we don't know which woman did. So they're

1271
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: contacting all the women that he was sleeping with based

1272
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: off of the pupil in his sheets. Oh and she

1273
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: had a husband but was cutting her off. He was

1274
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: cutting her off financially, and so she didn't.

1275
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: Know what to do with that thing. She was mishandling

1276
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: that thing. She ain't know what to do with its

1277
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: great and she's in jail now right, Oh my god,

1278
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: she's out now. Oh she got three Because I would

1279
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 1: have thought that would have been a life.

1280
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I you know what, I think that you know,

1281
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: you can plead for a lesser sentence.

1282
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: I think, okay, so I can say this, I do

1283
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: understand if self defense. If it's self defense, you don't

1284
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: need to go to jail at all. Because if it's

1285
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: you me like myself, every time you got to go

1286
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: crimes of passion, that gets a little because it's like,

1287
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: you can't control your emotions. So how do I know

1288
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna fall in love with somebody else and

1289
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: do it again because.

1290
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: You cannot get But you have to learn how to

1291
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: control your emotions.

1292
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: You have to like you not being able to control

1293
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: your emotions as a lack of skill that you parents

1294
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: ain't teach you whatever reason. I think there's like this

1295
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: point in adulthood where you've got to be responsible for,

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Speaker 3: you know, all the things.

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: That the parents miss. We're not gonna get it all.

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Speaker 3: Like even as best as the next parent might try,

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01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: that's gonna fuck the kid over or that's gonna fuck

1300
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: the kid. You gotta learn how to fill those spaces

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01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: without taking somebody's life.

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: You can't just say I got mad and I got

1303
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: your excuses. When you're young, like if you you're late teens,

1304
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: early twenties, I'm like, okay.

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01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: Still learning.

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: But if those thirties mid thirties, I'm like, and you're

1307
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: still that mad that you're taking.

1308
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm not taking Lie ain't worth nothing. Yeah, but

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's so crazy to watch snaps

1310
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: because you see a lot of these stories and a

1311
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: lot of these women are free now. It's stories of

1312
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: like stuff that happened in like the nineties, and they're free. Now.

1313
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: What's her name? Selena's murderer's up for parole? She is,

1314
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: but she's been up for parole a lot of times.

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna get out.

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't think saw either. Wild. Yeah, she's getting crazy.

1317
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: The streets is not gonna be friendly to her. She

1318
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: won't be out there long.

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: I'd be like board, yes, because she much safer and

1320
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: I have a couple of years because I ain't to

1321
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: do this. But it's crazy to be much because I.

1322
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: Get I don't. I've never been to jail, I've never

1323
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: been to prison, don't plan on going. But to me,

1324
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: I feel like for her, it's like you want your freedom,

1325
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: of course, but like you should stay in there.

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01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's safer. She I feel like she's mutely safer

1327
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: because them Selena stands.

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: And I'm want to she better not catch at the

1329
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: local tar.

1330
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: Okay, but I come off, they probably gonna have her

1331
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: in some type of weakness protection program. We're not weakness protection,

1332
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: but you know, some type of like protective christ. They

1333
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: might as well keep her in there, that's all, because

1334
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: they gotta know letting her be free and just roam

1335
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: around is not gonna be safe for her. What the

1336
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: cards that she deal for herself.

1337
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. But I do want to get on

1338
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: a point that you said, because you were saying, like,

1339
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: you're an adult, you need to learn how to control

1340
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: your anger. And I one hundred percent agree with that.

1341
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: But you mother fucking people need to stop playing with

1342
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: people too, because you won't come across the wrong motherfucker.

1343
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: And now you're laying on the ground gurgling because your

1344
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: throat sleep.

1345
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: You got to understand everybody don't got something to lose,

1346
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: you know.

1347
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: And everybody don't take the same And I'm not saying

1348
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: that if some people will gladly go behind bet they'd

1349
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we're both going to be hurting.

1350
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: And there was a time where I didn't have things

1351
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: to lose, so I have before you didn't a while, y'all.

1352
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: I how do I want to tell the story. Once

1353
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: upon a time I was dating. When I was dating

1354
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: my ex and her and I we, uh, we had

1355
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: a very tumultuous relationship. And when we were together, I

1356
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: mean constantly arguing. I mean, hasn't been my friend for

1357
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: a long time. So I used to be like, I

1358
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: fucking hate this. Yeah, like things really hit the fan

1359
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: and we got into like a big, big fight, like

1360
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: very physical altercation, calling the police. Uh, she got arrested,

1361
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: and so I called for see, I ain't shit, And

1362
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: this was my early twenties. At first I didn't think

1363
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: it was call her mom and be like your daughter

1364
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: in jail, go get a whole click. And then I

1365
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 2: called her best friend and I was like, YO, friend

1366
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: is in jail, fuck herd if she ever come back

1367
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: to this bitch, I'm gonna kill her ass. And her

1368
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: friend coming back and says, so you know, I have

1369
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: a voicemail saying that you're gonna kill my friend.

1370
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: If you ever do something right and woo, period only

1371
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that.

1372
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that, And I am almost sure

1373
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: that she probably still if she was me, I'm sure

1374
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: she still has that voicemail safe. I was like twenty three,

1375
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: but I don't mean it now. I don't no more.

1376
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: But like I'm sure like if lord don't know, nothing

1377
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: ever happened to that girl. Ross come back.

1378
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: You don't like this press and play? I told you

1379
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't deleting these she period. But no, I do

1380
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: feel like, like I said, any crime against somebody, you do,

1381
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: of course need to hold yourself. But y'all have to

1382
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: stop playing with people something like she said, some people

1383
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: just have nothing to lose. I don't play on people top.

1384
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't play with your time. I hate to say this.

1385
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: I hate to talk about this, but it was so crazy.

1386
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: Y'all probably have never heard of this story. We're from well,

1387
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: I lived in Houston. She's from Houston. There was a

1388
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: story in Mercedes More. Yeah, it was a case to

1389
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: where and I truly don't believe that Mercedes More new

1390
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: that man, I really don't. It was a case where

1391
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,959
Speaker 1: a man was stalking her, showed up at her house,

1392
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: strangled her to death, then ended up, you know, unliving himself.

1393
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: But the narrative online was like, oh, y'all, cause she

1394
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: did only fans, so you know what comes with that.

1395
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: They don't look at women who do sex work as people.

1396
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: So the narrative that came up, oh, y'all need to

1397
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: stop getting men for they money and if you don't

1398
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: like him, stop talking.

1399
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: Had a choice to spend that money.

1400
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: They had a choice, right, But honestly, I don't think

1401
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: she knew that man. I think he was probably like

1402
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: a subscriber on her only fans and was stalking her.

1403
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. But on the other hand, I

1404
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: will say for women who like aren't in sex work

1405
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: and you're like using men who don't even live that

1406
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: type of lifestyle, Like this is for the girls who

1407
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: really be trying to like pray on men who don't

1408
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: have much and they're literally giving their last to you,

1409
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: or vice versa. Men who are praying on women who

1410
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: don't have much and they're giving you your last, and

1411
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: then they find out you're playing them. It's not even

1412
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: worth it. It's not worth it to be like using

1413
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: somebody because you're gonna catch them on a bad day.

1414
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: The economy is hard, okay, right now? Eggs is sixty

1415
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: three ninety nine, Okay, our highest Stop playing with people

1416
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: for money, and that's not the game that you play,

1417
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: you know. I always say this, leave the sex work

1418
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: and stuff to the girls who know what they're doing,

1419
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: and they know how to talk to these people, and

1420
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: they know how to navigate that world properly.

1421
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 2: I feel like it ain't no proper way to navigate

1422
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: their word, but it is, though.

1423
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: It's people who are put to.

1424
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: Keep themselves safe.

1425
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: They know how to keep themselves safe, you know. And

1426
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the pimps, because y'all ain't safe either.

1427
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the women who really know how to navigate,

1428
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: keep themselves safe and know what they're doing. You know.

1429
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: There is a way, And I think the problem is

1430
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people try to separate themselves. Oh, this

1431
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: isn't sex work. I'm not. I'm not doing this. I'm

1432
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: not if you are selling any kind of fantasy, you

1433
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: talking to a man and he's feeling some type of

1434
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: way in his loins and he's paying you, and it's

1435
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: just say that sex work, you know what I'm saying.

1436
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: So I do think that if you're gonna take that route,

1437
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: stop making people feel like you care about them and

1438
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: that you love them. And that you're gonna be with

1439
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: them on both ends, like I said, men and women,

1440
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: because that ship gets scary.

1441
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, some people, that's the fantasy that we're paying.

1442
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 4: That's the word.

1443
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: They want to be in that world. They want to

1444
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: feel that somebody cares about. And a lot of people

1445
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: the fact for yourself, that's what. Yeah, you're paying me

1446
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: to make you feel like we're together. Right, you've never

1447
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: seen me in person. You're never going to see me

1448
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 2: in person. But I think with that it's boundaries and

1449
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

1450
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: It's also very much I'm not gonna tell you anything

1451
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 3: real about me, Like this is a fantasy.

1452
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: We are in this fantasy. Yes, you play along, I'll

1453
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: play along, But this is they draw that you may

1454
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: know the LLC, but when you look it up on

1455
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: social on the website, it's gonna go to the p

1456
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,839
Speaker 2: O box right exactly.

1457
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: And I tell that to all women, if you a

1458
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: sex worker or not. I even told I think it

1459
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: was something you was doing. You was on live one time.

1460
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 1: I said, girl, get out your fucking window, because it

1461
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: just be the little shit. It'd be the smallest shit.

1462
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: It's somebody gonna find where you live. I post in

1463
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: front of the white wall. I got a white wall,

1464
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: and that's it. That's all y'all fin to see. But

1465
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: taking pictures in my house, I'm not doing it. Are

1466
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: posting where you at while you're there?

1467
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everything is a delayed post everything everything. There's

1468
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: this TikTok. It's this white man that used to work

1469
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: for the government and what they he's his job. What

1470
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: he does on TikTok is try to teach people how

1471
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: easy it is to be found. So so people will

1472
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: be like, hey, come find me, and they'll just do

1473
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: this in their background and he'll say, Okay, I can

1474
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: tell by I saw that street sign, I enhanced the image. Okay,

1475
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: that street. I can look how many times that street

1476
01:11:59,280 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: is in America?

1477
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

1478
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: I also saw that there was a Dollar General. So

1479
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: now I need to find out how many times this

1480
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: street intersected with a street where there's a Dollar General.

1481
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 4: Oh.

1482
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: I saw that there was rocks here in construction, So

1483
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: now I get to look up construction zones and then

1484
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: he can pinpoint exactly where you were standing on the corner.

1485
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: It's scary.

1486
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 2: It's scary.

1487
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: It's scary, and I think for me, it's crazy. Because

1488
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: when I was in Mexico with the scamming flight, that's

1489
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: when I found out that Mercedes had passed. And it

1490
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: was so crazy because I remember going through her Instagram

1491
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just looking. I'm like, this is probably a

1492
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: picture that he looked at because she's just innocently taking

1493
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: pictures in front of her house, in her house, around

1494
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: her house. Just not because we don't think about that,

1495
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: you don't, you know what I'm saying, especially during this time. Well,

1496
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: because what this happened in what twenty twenty, This is

1497
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: probably like twenty one, because this is definitely before my

1498
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: mom passed.

1499
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: How old or young was she?

1500
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: She was like thirty Yeah, she was probably like thirty one,

1501
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah she was.

1502
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: That's so interesting because like we came up with the age,

1503
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: like we all know floppy disk, you know what I'm saying,

1504
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: Like we all know that, And so I also remember

1505
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: the scare of the internet. Like I'm almost terrified of

1506
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: the Internet. We used to have assemblies in school about

1507
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: your your footprint on the Internet, and I think a

1508
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: lot of younger folks they don't get that anymore because

1509
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: like it's so calm, so Google.

1510
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: When Google hit, they're starting the Internet at two years old,

1511
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, And I remember Google.

1512
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't going to take off, and now Google is this

1513
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: huge entity, and so people aren't even taught that you

1514
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: are vulnerable. Any us sitting here is vulnerable.

1515
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: Right right, I think. And I think another good point is,

1516
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: like I said, just being just being aware because you

1517
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: just never know. And like I said, post delayed posting

1518
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: like they can literally save your life. I tweeted that

1519
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: the other I said, discernment can save your life. And

1520
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that things like that have to happen for

1521
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: you to like wake up and be like, oh my god,

1522
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: because think about how many people listening to all podcasts.

1523
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: It only takes one weird though. Think about how many

1524
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: people listening to pour minds. It only takes one fucking

1525
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: obsessed weirdo. And like I said, I think it's a

1526
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: very fine line. Like I said, with Mercedes story, it

1527
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: was so awful because I'm like, this girl lost her

1528
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: life and all y'all keep talking about is, oh, well,

1529
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: she was in sex work and they dehumanized people so bad.

1530
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, she was the victim.

1531
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 1: She was stalked. She was stalked. At the end of

1532
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: the day. I don't care what even if she didn't

1533
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: know the man and she was taking money from him,

1534
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: that was her job. She was on only fans, So

1535
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: they do probably sometimes have conversations with these people, you

1536
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1537
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 2: Even scamming him she was she wasn't she was following

1538
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: her taxing.

1539
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: And he grew an attachment. Oh my gosh, it was

1540
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: so I was. I was so disgusted and frustrated at

1541
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: that narrative at the time, and we didn't have the

1542
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: platform that we do now, you know what I'm saying.

1543
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: I just remember like wanting to say something so bad

1544
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: because there's like these men on these large platforms just

1545
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: victim blaming, victim blaming, and I think that's something that

1546
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: we definitely need to steer away from because, like I said,

1547
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: I know what I just said. So I don't y'all

1548
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: finna be like, oh, she's contradicting herself because I did

1549
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: say stop playing with people and stop doing that. But

1550
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: also we have to stop victim blaming as well.

1551
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: But would you consider a situation like that like a

1552
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: crime of passion, because I think when I think about

1553
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: crimes of passion, I always think about like people in relationship.

1554
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: Yes, that's not a crime of the person.

1555
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: Because they felt some type of way like but then

1556
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: I feel like it's no getting away from it, because

1557
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: a crime of passion could be okay, this person found

1558
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: out she was cheating on them. But then sometimes even

1559
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: if you're honest with the person and you tell them, hey, look,

1560
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: this relationship no longer serves me. I don't want to

1561
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: be with you anymore. Even in situations like that, people

1562
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: be snapping and wanted to kill you. So it's really

1563
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: no avoiding it.

1564
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 3: I don't think for a crime of passion, both people

1565
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: have to be you, don't, you know, Like for him

1566
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: it was passion for him, that was hers no, and

1567
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: he's jealous of all these other people and all the things,

1568
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: And so if he's doing it out of the love.

1569
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: Then he has for her. It doesn't matter if it's reciprocated. Well,

1570
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 2: still why he did it. And crime of passions aren't

1571
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: always about love. Sometimes they're about hate. So a lot

1572
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: of times things are categorized crimes of passion when there's

1573
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: things like overkill. It could be a mother and a daughter.

1574
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 2: It could be a mother daughter, It could be a

1575
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: mother's boyfriend. It could be the daughter's boyfriend to the mother,

1576
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: and the fact that the mother was killed instead of

1577
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: stabbed in the heart once she was stabbed eighty seven times,

1578
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: that's that then becomes a crime of passion. And that

1579
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: also lets investigators know, Okay, this is probably somebody that

1580
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: this person knows. It's probably not a randomly a random

1581
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: robbery gone wrong. Now, and so I think with crimes

1582
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: of passion, when it comes to like couples, it usually

1583
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: it usually is something that has been that hasn't been

1584
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: addressed over time, like it's.

1585
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: A gradual build up.

1586
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gradual build up for sure.

1587
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I said that about the crime of passion,

1588
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: I think it has to be between two people who

1589
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: are familiar, because I think that's when when it's people

1590
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: who aren't familiar, like with the Mercedes case, I wouldn't

1591
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: count that as a crime of passion, even though in

1592
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: his head he probably felt like he was in love

1593
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: and this and that. I think that's when you start

1594
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: getting to the territory of mental illness. Yeah, so I

1595
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: think I would separate crimes of passion from people who

1596
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: have a mental illness, because anybody can become victim of

1597
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: a crime of passion.

1598
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: You think crimes of passion are when people hit that

1599
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 3: mental break, Yes.

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: They do. But I think it's a it's a mental

1601
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: break and it's a moment because you never know what

1602
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: can make you snap. You can never say never happens

1603
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: until it happens to you. You never know how somebody

1604
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: will take you there. But versus somebody that man probably

1605
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: been weird for his entire life. You can't sit up

1606
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: here and tell me, like if we if he was alive,

1607
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: he was right, if he was alive, and they were

1608
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: able to deep dive into that. That's another thing her

1609
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 1: case didn't get deep dive into, I think because she

1610
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: was not only a black woman, but she was a

1611
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: sex worker. Because they should have deep dived into his

1612
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: history and his life to figure out to give everybody

1613
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 1: just more answers because.

1614
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: She was victims of his stalking, even if they weren't

1615
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: like any victims that he actually put his hands on,

1616
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 2: there's probably other women. There's probably plenty of restraining orders exactly.

1617
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: So I think it's a it's a it's a it's

1618
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: a difference because if they would have really looked into

1619
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: his history of who he was, it was it was

1620
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: a lot more victims. It was the red flags were there.

1621
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: So people like that, I'm like, those are the people

1622
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: that need to get you know, locked up for life

1623
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: and throw away the key, you know what I'm saying,

1624
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: because if you leave them out, if it wasn't her,

1625
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: it was gonna be somebody else. If he would have

1626
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: not unlived himself, he would have kept going and did

1627
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 1: it to other people, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes

1628
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: I do feel like crimes of passion. It's kind of

1629
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: like a this they snapped, you know, truly snapped. And

1630
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not making excuses because there's still

1631
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: victims in all these situations, but I do like to

1632
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: feel that it's a little just different.

1633
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: And you see that snap sometimes because like mothers when

1634
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: it comes to their children, or if somebody's startning to

1635
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: take their children away, that usually is like people don't

1636
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 2: know how they're going to react behind their child until

1637
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: they're in that situation, like, oh, you're about to take

1638
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 2: my child away from me, No, I'm about to take

1639
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: you out of this world. It's like I said, it's

1640
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: always something and it's usually a gradual build up because

1641
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: it's probably something that like you're not a good mother.

1642
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: A good mother.

1643
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: You need to take care of your children more. Okay,

1644
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that your children get taken

1645
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: away from you. Oh, I'm calling defects on you. Okay,

1646
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: now I gotta kill you. You know what I'm saying.

1647
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: It's that instant snap where you probably could have thought logically,

1648
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: got a lawyer, petitioned the court, but in your mind,

1649
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: it's like it's me and these children against you in

1650
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: any type of relationship.

1651
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: It was like that case in Florida. Y'all remember when

1652
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: that lady found found out like her husband was like

1653
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 1: assaulting the kids at her daycare. She owned a daycare.

1654
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: And she didn't even shoot him. She shot in the

1655
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: air like warning shots like I will kill you if

1656
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: you continue to do this. They were getting into it,

1657
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: and he didn't go to jail.

1658
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 2: She didos are illegal, Yeah, especially if you are a

1659
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: license carrier those are that is illegal.

1660
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1661
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: So it's just like in that moment, she snapped because

1662
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: she's in her mind trying to protect these kids. You're

1663
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: a monster. But the way the legal system is, I mean,

1664
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: it's I need to see what happened to her because

1665
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: they were trying to put her away for a long time.

1666
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: And the internet was like, no, butt him.

1667
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Away, yes, and they would not They would not lock

1668
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: him up. They would not lock him up.

1669
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all, I'm trying to think, what's the time and

1670
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: that I thought I was getting set up? Maybe when

1671
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: that girl was trying to figure out if I was dating.

1672
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,480
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I was speaking.

1673
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 4: Down. Yeah, like the fuck you thought?

1674
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know? She would never do that to you?

1675
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: Did you think that?

1676
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: But my big is does she really think you was

1677
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: gonna tell her that? I was talking to him like, bitch,

1678
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Lex is my friend. She I don't care how long, y'all,

1679
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: because I mean, y'all was kind of cool, I guess

1680
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. But you had just met her.

1681
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:19,879
Speaker 1: So it's like, why would you think.

1682
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: Lex is gonna tell you anything that I don't want

1683
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 2: you to know. Lex knows I don't want you to

1684
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: know that. She's not gonna tell you.

1685
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: I said, girl, she would never do that to you.

1686
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: Look at me in my eyes.

1687
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: I definitely felt like she was trying to set me

1688
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: up for sure, because yes, because at the time, you know,

1689
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: I was single, so I was talking to like two

1690
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 2: different She went and asked the other dudes that I

1691
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: was talking to if I was talking to the other

1692
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: dudes like she was really trying to get to the

1693
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: bottom of it.

1694
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: She was very pratty. That was so strange looking back.

1695
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: What's up, y'all at your girl? And it's Sugarl Dre

1696
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,000
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1697
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: Poor Minds called Item of the Week. But do you

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01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,320
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1699
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1700
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1701
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,000
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1702
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,920
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1703
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,400
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1704
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: you would like to get your product featured for Item

1705
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,080
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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,360
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01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,160
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1709
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: Send us an email and we'll work it out. We

1710
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: gonna figure it out, get your product, get your business sponsored,

1711
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, make you some money.

1712
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: We love to moret a small business man and a

1713
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: black business said that, but I.

1714
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: Mean scrimmaade any businesses.

1715
01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: Welcome. Okay, y'all, let's get into the bop of the week,

1716
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: the bop U, the bop A, the bob bow bow bow. Okay.

1717
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: So okay, So what's y'all been listening to?

1718
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's y'all's bop of the week. It could be

1719
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 2: something new, Oh, it don't matter. Is definitely the music girly, Adam.

1720
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: You're the music girler, Okay, listening to.

1721
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: I feel like Honestly, when when I do turn on music,

1722
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 3: I like to go back, like I like to listen

1723
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 3: to like nineties hip hop, like Atlanta rap. Okay, welcome

1724
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 3: to Atlanta. Or you know what I've really been on.

1725
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 3: I've been on slow jams.

1726
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm army girl.

1727
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: I love R and B.

1728
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm an R and B girly, like.

1729
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: The old slow gems like people.

1730
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've seen a debate the other day

1731
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 3: and somebody was talking about who's the queen of R

1732
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 3: and B? And people were naming it like her and stuff.

1733
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: And I was like, the Queen, That's what I'm saying.

1734
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: Like, not to take nothing away from her, but the

1735
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 3: queen is a heavy title for a new age girl,

1736
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1737
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, us R and B. That's like,

1738
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: that's like a carry you have a Kelly Price, you

1739
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: have a these married j B. Like yeah, those are queens,

1740
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: the Queens.

1741
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: New Aidskay okay, okay, So you know, Drake and Party

1742
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: just had that album that just came out. But I

1743
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: really like Peemy that's on the album. I've been listening

1744
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: to her new EP. Well it's not newest from last year,

1745
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: but it's called Bittersweet, but I really like her boys. Okay,

1746
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: that's what I've been listening. So what you've been listening to? So, uh,

1747
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm a Broadway girlye and so I'm usually listening to

1748
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: like what's nominated for the Tony's this year, but I

1749
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: just announced everybody that I'm pregnant.

1750
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 4: You thank you.

1751
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 2: So I'm having a little boy. So I have been

1752
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: putting together like my Sweet Lullaby playlist and so like

1753
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: it's most Flee songs that I'm just super into. So

1754
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: my the song right now is That'll Be Enough from

1755
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: Hamilton because it talks about like her telling him that

1756
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: he's having a son and being right yeah okay, yeah,

1757
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: and so that's what it's that's the song and Wills

1758
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 2: of a Dream from Ragtime. These are all like Ragtime

1759
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: is a very old musical, but it's very popular. So

1760
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always a Broadway girlly. Oh about say you're

1761
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: a musical girl, I'm a musical girlie. And so now

1762
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: that I'm putting together like all these like sweet baby

1763
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: songs for me and the baby, I'm like'.

1764
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be the mama singing. You're gonna be

1765
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: singing singing.

1766
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: Now somebody's gonna love you.

1767
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so my bop of the week, sticking true to

1768
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: the theme. I took it too far with the theme

1769
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: this week, y'all. Okay, okay, So this is a throwback.

1770
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you said throwback today. I never

1771
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: do throwbacks. Okay, are y'all Michael Jackson fan? Yes, yes,

1772
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm about to get deep in my Mindchael Jackson back, like,

1773
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: this is a pocket that a lot of people don't know.

1774
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: This is a true crime song. Did y'all know that

1775
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson sang about true crime? No, he has a song.

1776
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Do y'all remember that song Little Susie?

1777
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: No?

1778
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Exactly. Now I'm not even gonna get into the song

1779
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: of Little Susie. But it is a song about a little.

1780
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: Girl who was murder, murder at her own home.

1781
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: I just want to read to y'all the first lines

1782
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: of the lyrics. I'm gonna read the first two lines,

1783
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let y'all go listen to it. Somebody

1784
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: kill Little Susie, the girl with the tune who sings

1785
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 1: in the daytime. At noon, she was there screaming, beating

1786
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: her voice in the dune. Nobody came to her sole.

1787
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: God damn it. It was a song. I'm telling y'all,

1788
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: this song used to scare me because he's singing about

1789
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: how she somebody pushed her down the stairs. She had

1790
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: blood in her hair. I used to listen to this

1791
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: song when I was like six, y'all and needs to

1792
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: horrify me. What album was this song? This was on

1793
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 1: the moment when he was in the staff. You with

1794
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the lights, you know what I'm talking about, the statue

1795
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: like people staying like ya. No, I can't remember the

1796
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: album it's called, y'all. It is a horrifying song. It's

1797
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: horrifying and.

1798
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: It will be on the official Sisters Who Kill playlist.

1799
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 4: Serious and it is a.

1800
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 1: True crime because he's talking about how everybody showed up

1801
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 1: at the funeral. It's t y'all. Okay, I said Michael Jackson.

1802
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: I knew I was getting too deep in mind. I

1803
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: knew I was too deep in that bad buy something

1804
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: on Brien, Past, Present and Future album. Yes, y'all have

1805
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: to go listen to Little Suitsane. Y'all could be like,

1806
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,839
Speaker 1: oh my boy, oh my boy, Michael. Michael was quirzy.

1807
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 2: All right, now it stops to get into our favorite

1808
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: stigment of the show, which is pour your heart out.

1809
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Y'all know, if y'all have any questions or testimony, you

1810
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: will send them in to ask poor minds at gmail

1811
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 2: dot com. Ask kp O you r in my n

1812
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: d s at gmail dot com. Okay, you don't say

1813
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: the number real good, thanks for girl. I feel like

1814
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: I got a spelling because people as long as we've

1815
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: had this show, people still be like poor minds p

1816
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 2: oo rs. I'll be like, let me say that.

1817
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: Okay, that's probably watching line down. We was given a

1818
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: little poor back then. Yeah, I'll go first.

1819
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, lex Andrea, keep me anonymous. I'm a pathological liar.

1820
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: See you should read I got I lie about anything.

1821
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: You could text me what you're doing while I'm watching

1822
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: Netflix in bed, and I'll say I'm making a steak

1823
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: dinner and stay in saving my home.

1824
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, too far. I feel like it just adds a

1825
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: little mystery to my life.

1826
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: I recently sent you, guys two emails lying my ass off,

1827
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 2: So hopefully y'all get to this one first and we

1828
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: meet off the bunch. The thing is, I'll lie at

1829
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: first then immediately have to come back and tell the truth,

1830
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 2: because girl, why did I even lie like that?

1831
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Lex? Do you still be lying? How do you fight

1832
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the urge? Do I need to put a rubber band

1833
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: on my wrist or something? So already was long. I

1834
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: love you guys, it's so you know what's crazy. The

1835
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,839
Speaker 1: joke about me lying joke. I'll say this. I always

1836
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: take lying as a joke because it started from me

1837
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: talking about lying to my niggas and guys that I'm dating,

1838
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: because I'll be like, oh, yeah.

1839
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: Like those are cool live yeah.

1840
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: So obviously it got taken out of context because of

1841
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: the show, and it's funny. I'm gonna go along with

1842
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: it cause I'm like, oh, I love a good life

1843
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: because you know you a lot of these niggas. But

1844
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: if you are lying, if you are lying about you

1845
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: just laying in the bed and you talking about you

1846
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: cooking a whole steak dinner, literally, you're taking it a

1847
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: little You're taking it a little too far. Like I said,

1848
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: lies are supposed to be fun. They're supposed to be you.

1849
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: If a man calls you and you at home in

1850
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,839
Speaker 1: bed crying, you're supposed to be like, oh, I'm outside

1851
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: with my girls. Those are the lies that we talk

1852
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: about when you say I love to lie, Oh what

1853
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: you gotta do this weekend? Oh I'm booked up and busy.

1854
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta go to Greece this weekend. I

1855
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: think those are the kind of lies we like to tell.

1856
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: But you're just lying stage in your home.

1857
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Because only time that I could see lying through text

1858
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: message is if you know that person is a facetimer

1859
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: and you don't want if I'm at home watching TV

1860
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: and I don't want you to text me, or I

1861
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: don't want you to FaceTime me. I have some people

1862
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 2: that will call text me and say what are you doing?

1863
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I was just saying I'm busy.

1864
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want I really.

1865
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Don't want to turn off ninety day say.

1866
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Like it's it's never given. I have to wear a

1867
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: rubber band and snacks stop. You might need to go

1868
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: to that lady.

1869
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little even to say. I wrote in

1870
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 2: I see y'all to lyon ass emails. The next email,

1871
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: y'all should go copy and paste the email and find

1872
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: all her lies we are because.

1873
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Honestly, we gotta look up. We got to look up

1874
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: her email address and see what's the other two that

1875
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: are lies? Because baby, I'm a liar, but you too.

1876
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm not on your list, she said, We'll not be

1877
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: out of the bunch. I'm not even trying to waste

1878
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: your time. I am a week Good luck girl. Okay, hey, ladies,

1879
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: I know this might sound crazy, but I've been out

1880
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: of a DV relationship for about two years now and

1881
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I haven't been sexually active since. Do you think it's

1882
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: crazy for that ex to pay me for sexual relations

1883
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: because I don't want to deal with anyone new yet?

1884
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 1: Or should I stay on my heel and keep my distance?

1885
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Keep your distance, keep your distance.

1886
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. dB.

1887
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 2: That's a little like is your life it?

1888
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: We just talked about your crime.

1889
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Now he gonna be like that person that with the

1890
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 2: conjugal visit.

1891
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: Now, because what that's a little much?

1892
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: I know, Rent do I know it's him paying just

1893
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: so she can so she don't have to go sleep

1894
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 2: with somebody else.

1895
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: But he was, but I also.

1896
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 2: With somebody else. Yeah, don't nobody care.

1897
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: And I also think a lot of times nobody can.

1898
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: If nobody could put you on it, you don't matter.

1899
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: It didn't happen, right. And I think also when women,

1900
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: well I'm assuming it's a woman. She didn't say it's

1901
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: a woman or man, but either way, women are men.

1902
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times when people are in

1903
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: DV relationships, you feel some kind of hole to like

1904
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: fix this person. And I don't think this has anything

1905
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: to do with you not wanting to have sex with somebody.

1906
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I think this has to do with you having you

1907
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: feel like you have a soul tide of this person

1908
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: and you still want to reach out to them and

1909
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: be around them. So for your safety and your health

1910
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: and everything, your mental health, stay on your hill and

1911
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: keep your distance. Nothing is worse that you move on.

1912
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,759
Speaker 2: Get a rose, get a roll, I just go find

1913
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 2: you and new Man yeah, there's.

1914
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: A billion people in the world.

1915
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: Okay, find you somebody to have a conjugal visit with.

1916
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's plenty of them waiting. Okay, Well, let

1917
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: them know where they can find y'all's podcast where they

1918
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: can follow y'all at when the episodes drop all that

1919
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: good stuff.

1920
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all. You can find us Sisters who Kill s

1921
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: I S t A s Who Kill anywhere Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Instagram,

1922
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: TikTok all the places we drop every single Friday. Every

1923
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: single Friday, you will get a new case from us,

1924
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: and you can find us Patreon dot com slash Sisters

1925
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,919
Speaker 2: who Kill Yeah all day so period.

1926
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much. This was so much fun, y'all, great,

1927
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: this was This is really fun, all right, and we'll

1928
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Speaker 1: see y'all next week, are y'all? Y'all make sure y'all

1929
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Speaker 1: share the content like subscribe, follow all that good stuff.

1930
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Speaker 1: And let me say this before we close out, y'all,

1931
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: there is one Twitter account that is connected to poor Minds.

1932
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: It's p O. You are underscore in my nds. Y'all

1933
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: are tagging the wrong poor Minds page. If you see

1934
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: at poor Minds with no underscore that is at fake page.

1935
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Speaker 1: Do not follow that page. Okay, they block me Andrea

1936
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Speaker 1: and the poor Mines page on both. So we only

1937
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: have one Instagram, one Twitter, one TikTok it is p o.

1938
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: You are underscore in my nds, all right, and we

1939
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: gotta hell a fake Facebook page. The Facebook pages it's

1940
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Speaker 1: our face.

1941
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Speaker 2: The crazy thing is our Facebook page actually have the

1942
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 2: least amount of file.

1943
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: So if you're on Facebook, one that's ours got the

1944
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: least amount of file, but.

1945
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 2: One that's not us got like two hundred and fifty.

1946
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Speaker 1: Make if you actually look at the content because the

1947
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Speaker 1: caption is like whoever it is, don't speak English, because

1948
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: their captures are like bumba claude? Should men? Should men

1949
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: pay bill? Should men pay bill?

1950
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: Yes?

1951
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: No?

1952
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: Check answer below block block, Like that's literally what the captions?

1953
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, what that DG's bumba claude?

1954
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:50,799
Speaker 2: Bumba claude.

1955
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: We got sisters who's singing in the building?

1956
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 4: Ooh hit it Drayah you finished saying it?

1957
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta say hart Bray Hope.

1958
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: So this is the all hated together? How y'all feeling?

1959
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 1: You say you be here by nine?

1960
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 2: Said you took your time. You didn't think to call me.

1961
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 3: Boy.

1962
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: Here I say, trying not to cry, asking myself why

1963
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: you do this? Do me?

1964
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 4: Sis?

1965
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: You're not aroun for me to tell your baby face

1966
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: to face. I'm writing you this letter and this is

1967
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: what I have to say. All I really wanted was

1968
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: somehow your time, he said.

1969
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: You told me that what someone else was on your mom.

1970
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 4: What you do to me?

1971
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: What you do? Say what you did to me?

1972
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Baby?

1973
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: Un lest you alone do and right and tell you

1974
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: play with my emotions and you made me cry?

1975
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 4: What you do to me?

1976
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: And tell what you did to me? Hit is now

1977
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: I see on her shoe being doing wrong that you

1978
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 2: played me all along.

1979
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 1: And made a fool of me. Baby.

1980
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 2: Uh huh, you got it wrong to think that I

1981
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: would and find out come on lex that.

1982
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 4: You what you told me?

1983
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Bring you cut your do that's a man. Oh yeah, yeah,

1984
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: you're not aroun for me to tell your baby face

1985
01:36:59,000 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: to face.

1986
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm writing you this letter and this is what I

1987
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: have to say you, Paul, I really want it what

1988
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 2: some of your time and said you some men live

1989
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 2: with someone that was.

1990
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: All your mind?

1991
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 4: What you do to me?

1992
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Can't say what you did to me. Yeah, I thought

1993
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: that you and someone who was too and ride and

1994
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: said you're playing my emotions and you made me cry.

1995
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: What you do to me?

1996
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: I can tell you what you did.

1997
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 4: You cry song too.

1998
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 2: You can't tell you what.

1999
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Speaker 1: You did to Meg. We'll see y'all next week Hot Break,

2000
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Speaker 1: Oh sir, this sister