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Speaker 1: Big Bang.

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Speaker 2: What it is you don't be on nothing, I be

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Speaker 2: on BBJ okay, so let me ask bring you big

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Speaker 2: From the Trap Music Museum, Big Bank, DJ Screen Baby J.

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Speaker 2: We hear, we team Big Fashion. Today we're welcoming for

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Speaker 2: a very important conversation to one and only, doctor Travis

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Speaker 2: Barber has joined us. Welcome, Welcome, my brother. How you

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Speaker 2: feeling today?

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Speaker 1: Feeling wonderful? Feeling wonderful.

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Speaker 2: So let's start by giving everybody a little background on

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Speaker 2: what you're doing in the community.

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Speaker 1: How you got to that point.

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Speaker 2: We know you're all spend some time incarcerated and then

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Speaker 2: you know obviously turned that negative into a positive.

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Speaker 1: So just talk to the people. Give him a little

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Speaker 1: bit of background in yourself.

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Speaker 4: The background, high school football, star, college, drop for a

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Speaker 4: scholarship with Jordiantown University, stayed one year, came home still

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Speaker 4: addicted to the fame, name in the paper and everything.

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Speaker 1: So so thank.

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Speaker 4: Fighting the dogs, meeting on the dope boys, and from

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Speaker 4: there capping the jug. And then my man came through,

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Speaker 4: dropped me off a load and went on looking back

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Speaker 4: from there and up catching the murder case and character

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Speaker 4: that I didn't commit end up getting convicted, Sir got

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Speaker 4: sent it to twenty years, served teen on ten in

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Speaker 4: and ten on paper.

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Speaker 1: So I got down in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: So what was it doing your incarceration that you envisioned

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Speaker 2: like writing a book, helping the community getting out and help.

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Speaker 2: Was it that vacation that was that allows you to

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Speaker 2: get your mind right to do everything you're doing? Now?

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Speaker 4: That that vacation put me on a new pivotal being

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Speaker 4: away from my own sons and seeing so many young

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Speaker 4: black boys coming through them walls and looking like my

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Speaker 4: own kids. Yeah, I just had a deep passion to

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Speaker 4: becoming the father to them boys that I wanted the

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Speaker 4: man to be to my kids on the street.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this, just going back to

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Speaker 5: you said that you served ten years, You had to

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Speaker 5: do ten years on paper. How hard was it for

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Speaker 5: you to stay out of trouble for those ten years

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Speaker 5: that you had on paper so that you wouldn't go back.

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Speaker 4: It was hard just for the minor infraction, just knowing

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Speaker 4: that somebody could make a phone call and say that

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Speaker 4: trap did this, A trap said that a trap hit me,

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna have to go back to jail, go

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Speaker 4: down the road for two years to prove Yeah, said

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Speaker 4: that it was I really had to choose my friends

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Speaker 4: and places wisely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: So so how was it, like what made you addicted

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Speaker 4: to the street, Like made you want to go to

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Speaker 4: the street? Speaking seeing my mom working twenty four seven

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Speaker 4: for thirteen fourteen years throughout high school and knowing that

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Speaker 4: the NFL was gonna be my way of taking her

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Speaker 4: off her feet, and when that didn't work out, it

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Speaker 4: was by any mean necessary at that point. And you know,

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Speaker 4: our community, everybody got some work and that's why it.

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Speaker 1: Took to when you got to work.

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Speaker 4: Do you think out now you still focus after you

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Speaker 4: start the money that you got, like typical nigga like

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Speaker 4: fuck that. Now I'm from the flex and the bit.

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Speaker 4: Well I did that too, But I still put my

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Speaker 4: mon deuce in the crib and snatched me up two

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Speaker 4: of them and handle them. I being I was still

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Speaker 4: taking care of just my community. Yeah, so it wasn't

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Speaker 4: like I was impacting the whole city as well, just

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Speaker 4: just my crew, my people. But may you start just

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Speaker 4: really really really like, I mean, how you stay focused

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I know nigga have to come out. They pocket niggas

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Speaker 4: got you daytime? Like how you stay focused and grounded

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Speaker 4: and motivated to do this shit?

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Speaker 1: On what I'm doing now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, knowing that that can be my child getting in

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Speaker 4: one of the police calls, That could be my child

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Speaker 4: upon one.

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Speaker 1: Of the body bags.

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Speaker 4: Knowing the position that I put other people's lives in

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Speaker 4: and being a part of a murder and having to

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Speaker 4: that I'm sorry for what I did to cause that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you ever?

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Speaker 2: You know, along the journey of serving the community and

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Speaker 2: talking to you just got to have them days with you.

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Speaker 2: Like man, sometimes I feel like a lost cause, Like

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Speaker 2: just a lot of frustration, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: When you feel.

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Speaker 4: Like you might not be reaching like you want to,

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Speaker 4: Like I had that feeling yesterday. I was getting off

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Speaker 4: on the West End. I meant the light.

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Speaker 1: That I hear my periffic, I see the I see

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Speaker 1: the most. I ain't tripping. I heard I look, but

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Speaker 1: it got a stick. I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 4: I ain't trying his own man, But I pulled on off,

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Speaker 4: dip to the right and got the hell on. And

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there, like three in the evening and you

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Speaker 4: in broad daylight the gas station shooting across the street.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who he was shooting at, but he

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Speaker 4: was just gone home. And I'm sitting at my head

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Speaker 4: like damn, I'm I really making a difference, Like what's

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Speaker 4: what's the problem, what's going on? What do you think

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Speaker 4: put niggas in their mindset?

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Speaker 1: Just go out like that man?

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Speaker 4: Niggas broke hungry and then probably got kids at the house,

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Speaker 4: probably just got chumped all by this old lady.

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Speaker 1: His homeboys up and he.

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Speaker 4: Ain't and just that envy. It just bring hatred and

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Speaker 4: just that vicious mindset. I ain't fucking I ain't got

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Speaker 4: nothing to live for us.

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Speaker 2: So you think when when any of us at this

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Speaker 2: table pull up and just talk to them or do

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Speaker 2: something for him, that I think that helps the cause,

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Speaker 2: Like at least man somebody might give a fuck, Like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when they when we pull up and we leave

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Speaker 4: a phone number and we respond to a text or call,

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Speaker 4: that makes the difference. Now, he said to me, that

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Speaker 4: made sense though, and you like ship were trying to

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Speaker 4: get the niggas who.

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Speaker 1: Ain't already made their mind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so many niggas already made up their mind home,

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Speaker 4: Like how to reach them?

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Speaker 2: Can of niggas this already got their mind made up?

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Speaker 2: Or we reached them when they hit right Street, when

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Speaker 2: we reached them when they send they're like, damn a

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Speaker 5: But just like, for instance, I was able to be

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Speaker 5: a part of one of his programs that he does

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Speaker 5: at one of the places like around the city is

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Speaker 5: called an apt Promise Center or whatever. So I had

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Speaker 5: a chance to speak.

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Speaker 6: To the kid to like a group of kids.

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Speaker 5: I had a chance to interact with a group of

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Speaker 5: help put some stuff together for them. And I feel

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Speaker 5: like those types of programs and those types of things

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Speaker 5: is what's really making the difference. So I know, you

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Speaker 5: get discouraged or whatever, and like seeing that at three

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Speaker 5: o'clock in the day kind of like it's like damn,

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Speaker 5: like what's really going on?

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Speaker 6: But you got to.

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Speaker 5: Understand, like even like it's like two of those kids

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Speaker 5: from the program, and from like the program that you

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Speaker 5: put me into, they still talk to me, like on Instagram,

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Speaker 5: they still send me shit stuff I posted for or

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Speaker 5: whatever from their businesses and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't even really think it was that big

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Speaker 5: of a deal. But they really like just appreciated just

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Speaker 5: the interaction, not even any money or anything that like

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Speaker 5: you guys have done for them or anything like that,

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Speaker 5: But it's just little things like that that give them

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Speaker 5: the hope that they need to keep going on the

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Speaker 5: road to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and just for them being able to say, she responded, yeah,

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Speaker 4: who she says, she is right, That makes them give

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Speaker 4: that much more strength to keep going to carry on

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Speaker 4: and be like I'm gonna show them that I can

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Speaker 4: do it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Some people look at it like like when you when

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Speaker 5: you have to go and speak to kids and do

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Speaker 5: activities with kids or you know, young adults or whatever,

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Speaker 5: like it's a chore. But sitting down to listen to

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Speaker 5: their stories and to get to know what they've been

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Speaker 5: really it's really refreshing. Like it's not like it's something

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Speaker 5: that's gonna oh my God, take a whole lot of

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Speaker 5: time out of your day. Like once you do it once,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna want to do it again. And it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be something that's really gonna like make a difference for

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Speaker 5: you as a person, even if you're going through some shit.

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Speaker 5: To know that the same way that you're talking to

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Speaker 5: like you knowing that you're making a difference with them

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Speaker 1: Good things in perspective for sure?

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 2: What do do you have any like biggest regret along

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Speaker 1: Like or do you take it all in as this

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Speaker 4: The only regret that I have is about my third

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Speaker 4: year because even in prison, I was the same dude.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wanted to pull up on and talk to me,

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Speaker 4: get him a barber, chill, just being my present, work

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Speaker 1: And dude came to see me.

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Speaker 4: He was mental health and I was tired this day

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Speaker 4: and he was at the door, so he wanted me

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Speaker 4: to come hollering him, but I was tired, so I

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Speaker 4: tell him I catch him out.

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Speaker 1: The child call. Child call never came.

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Speaker 4: It was locked down for the rest of the day

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Speaker 4: my partner hung itself, So that fucked with me so hard,

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Speaker 4: knowing that I probably was the bridge between him and suicide.

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Speaker 1: So that ship be on my back them there every day.

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Speaker 6: But you can't blame yourself for that though I.

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Speaker 1: Can't, but you know, he had me my biggest regret.

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Speaker 4: What's the worst part about like trying to, you know,

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Speaker 4: go clean and stay clean and be an activist, Like,

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Speaker 4: what's the worst part of that ship for you?

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Speaker 1: One of my partners calls me a police, saying niggas, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, you know me, you know, like for real,

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Speaker 2: And then I think about my granddaughter calling me grand

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Speaker 2: grand and I just.

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Speaker 1: Like, y'all, you don't be doing police.

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Speaker 4: But you know, when when you're doing good and when

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Speaker 4: you're doing what you're supposed to do, you don't found

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Speaker 4: your lane and you ain't over that. I ain't got

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Speaker 4: that same guyage as conversation no more. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to talk about the holes and calls and clubs.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about these laws, restrictions or reform and everything

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Speaker 4: else going on in our community with the kids. So

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Speaker 4: he feels sometimes away. So I'm just like, cool, that's

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Speaker 4: what to do, and I had to go ahead and

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Speaker 4: let that rolling off the shoulder. He's just saying, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I go into the courtroom juvenile, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no help niggas based damn right. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Wed the last class that we graduated.

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Speaker 6: Of the how many kids was in that class?

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Speaker 5: They came through one of his programs in conjunction with

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Speaker 6: We threw a party for them to their parents.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have any jail time, and I think fourteen

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Speaker 4: Then they're gonna lock his ass up. When parole vouch

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Speaker 4: Turn now now now he he gotta fuck up on

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Speaker 1: Like if you've seen like saying, you've seen early.

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Speaker 4: Signs like they ain't listen, you ain't gonna go tell

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Speaker 4: I ain't put my snap on just know anything right

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Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing to do with that. Three folks

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Speaker 1: Lawyer. You don't need me for real. So that's how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I work hard to get this voice inside the

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Speaker 6: To have it's incrediblized.

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Speaker 4: That's all right, Yeah, No, sir, was like one of

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Speaker 4: He on the Martyr bus playing his bluetooth and give

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Speaker 4: Little Farrell he doing shows. Now I got a little

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Speaker 1: It didn't cost me nothing but about forty dollars buff

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I seen, I seen.

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Speaker 4: I seen a post on your paid with y'all y'all

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Speaker 6: Part of your problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now.

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Speaker 4: I can speak on it and from a masculine point

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Speaker 4: We just sitting there crying and praying. And then it

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Speaker 5: I been telling people that I'm a big like I'm

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying That people don't understand it is very important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody responsible for their own actions and choices.

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Speaker 2: But if you could, I don't want to use the

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Speaker 4: The education, the information and it's out there, but we

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Speaker 4: it that common stance. Everybody just gonna get what's on

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Speaker 4: their plate. Well, I seen did Gregor say we wanted

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Speaker 4: educational reliberation? What you're thinking?

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Speaker 2: Like, I think the mine at first, you gotta add

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. You gotta add that

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it here.

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Speaker 1: It's real. Watch, I gotta keep this image up. I'm

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Speaker 4: So that's what We're gonna take some some financial advisors

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Speaker 1: We gotta do what we gotta do for hours. Do

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Speaker 4: When the nigga so fucked up, he got so much trauma,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, generation to the ship some of the ship generation.

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Speaker 4: I think niggas be having so much ship going on

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting in the motherucking really out. I can't

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Speaker 4: And that's why I like to go meet the parents,

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: So I can't just do that with you in school.

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Speaker 4: I need to see how living where you come from.

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Speaker 1: Say anything else when I get big.

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Speaker 2: But I think we all gotta look at there's some

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Speaker 1: Their head that man, I'm gonna do something different. They

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Speaker 4: Through you to suppress that ship needs to be still

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Speaker 4: three times. Then the ship I experienced in prison and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I go talk. I learned that in prison the

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Speaker 4: We don't held hands and praying and cry because everybody

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Speaker 1: That band of brothers that I can lean on and

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Speaker 6: So let's talk about your degree.

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Speaker 5: What was the road to you getting your degree and

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Speaker 6: And the third part is how has it helped you?

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Speaker 4: Since I got my degree through my acts of kindness

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Speaker 1: I got an honorary doctor degree.

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Speaker 4: And that was a miracle within itself and it's really

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Speaker 4: can do more for our community than we can together

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Speaker 4: to come back ten years later.

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Speaker 1: And hey, yeah, yeah for real? That Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So what's the biggest thing you feel like you still

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Speaker 4: Get that facility, the One More Question Life Center. It's

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Speaker 2: Have a real conversation with you. Hirt, Now, how do

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I can't let that stop me

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Speaker 2: They said it was a fuck upright, but look at

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Speaker 4: The failing I did. I got a proclamation on parole

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Speaker 4: So I can't let that stopped me, man, because some

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Speaker 4: my faith to God know that this ain't even my assignment.

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Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't have chose it. They chose what's

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Speaker 4: the shit you do? To Like, you know when you kids,

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Speaker 4: some of your niggas who just think they why what's

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Speaker 1: It makes them know like, oh nah, the thing like

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Speaker 4: See some of them, I just I just let them

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was a drought on no work, So I'm chilling, Grandmama.

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Speaker 4: I'm chilling, mama. But everybody tell me about see polices

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Speaker 4: but you can't do never these young cats, especially they

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Speaker 2: Though, we was talking about this on another episode. How

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Speaker 4: Well, my buddy has a six year old son that

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Speaker 1: He creates video games. Six another little boy six play football.

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Speaker 4: But it's all about what the daddy pours into him.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the father is very important, especially for

447
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Speaker 1: a male. Ain't nowhere around it. Mm hmm. Do you

448
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: think that like.

449
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: Black men might not know what they're doing when they

450
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: abandon their family or abandon that child. They know what

451
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: we know we hit that bland. We don't hit that cocaine.

452
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: We know we hit that bill. We know leaving your

453
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: child is going to leave him to the wolves.

454
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Speaker 1: Up other people absolutely going to Yeah in most cases,

455
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: h yeah, that's man. Yeah we know. Yeah, daddy's around.

456
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 1: Ye got too.

457
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Even if you're mama trip, you still got a fight

458
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: for that's for that visitation, for that availability.

459
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of hard though.

460
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Speaker 4: What's what about some of them got damn some of

461
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 4: them they do for sure.

462
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: But I mean in that case, the woman is hurting

463
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Speaker 1: the family just like a pawn or a balcony chip.

464
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Speaker 6: That ship, bro, that's why you gotta go get naturalized.

465
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Speaker 1: How was that?

466
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Speaker 6: I mean I might have said it wrong, but it's.

467
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Speaker 5: When when you have legitimized, legitimized, they're not saying nothing

468
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Speaker 5: at all.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're legitimate, so you.

470
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Speaker 6: Can have just as just as many rights. Is the

471
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Speaker 6: custodial periods equal?

472
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Speaker 4: But but but just thinking about this though, I ain't

473
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm just playing devil. I ain't saying it right or wrong,

474
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 4: saying but what nigga going down and talking them folks

475
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 4: about anything? Right the daddy going I went down there.

476
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: I know, I'm just saying, but you but you you

477
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 4: had them.

478
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Speaker 1: Became a man y.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, niggah just still in the street, still trying to

480
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: do this, still doing that. Still, I ain't trying to

481
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: go down there and get on some folks mind about

482
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: know nothing. Yeah, and you know it's crazy that my son,

483
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: he's twenty one and problems. If I wasn't here in

484
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: his life, he wouldn't be going down on his own

485
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: because he's arguing about the time to get with his kid.

486
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 4: You have you just the baby dad right now, buddy, Yeah,

487
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 4: you gotta go get on legitimate. You gotta go down

488
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: and put yourself on child support if you want. You

489
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 4: want to have to say something. Yeah, now you're saying

490
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 4: so that that's the way they can just go down

491
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Speaker 4: and put itself on you and ask for what you want.

492
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: That's it. They're gonna eat it up, and.

493
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 6: That way you'll be able to make your demands.

494
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful. It's people watching. It's gonna know that

495
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: nothing that we touched absolutely don't know.

496
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Speaker 2: Probably if you got you have a baby the wet lock,

497
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: that baby belongs to that mother, and if you die,

498
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: if the mother dies, that baby's going to the cust

499
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Speaker 2: of her parents, not you dadd on the birth certificate.

500
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Speaker 4: If you're not legitimised, even if your name is versus,

501
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: it don't even matter. That's they go to the grandparents. Yeah,

502
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Speaker 4: state of Georgia.

503
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Speaker 1: If I think it's differently, I get married.

504
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: But can you're married already?

505
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: I ain't know that.

506
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: So some people be taking care of the kids, doing

507
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 2: everything they gotta do. This ship might happen and they

508
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: ain't even it is their kid and they can't even.

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You operated, don't operate. You ain't got

510
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: no say so. But that's cold.

511
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: So do you how how much do you partake in

512
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: Do you listen to the Do you listen to music

513
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: like the current?

514
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: I do what you like, What I like? What music?

515
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: Got like R and B pretty much. I listened to

516
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: a little rap. I like baby, couple of songs. I

517
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: like t I, Troy, I like.

518
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I like a lot of the music.

519
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: But I can't deal into it. I can't ride around

520
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: and just beat im. Gonna catch two or three songs

521
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: and I'm good, Yeah, a couple of them.

522
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah.

523
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 5: So let's get into behind the Trap, Behind the Trap,

524
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 5: let's talk about it.

525
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: That was me, big trap. You know, the trap was

526
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: the man. Yeah, he was a pretty wild guy. Yeah,

527
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: pretty wild. I got this was gonna be my abitu

528
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: where I ain't think I was gonna live the twenty years.

529
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: So I wanted my sons to know exactly who I

530
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: was and what I was about. And yeah, so I

531
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: end up turning to a book when I got out.

532
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: Another part to coming o because of everything that I'm

533
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: doing now. But behind the Trap, this is my life

534
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: story from this from college to I caught my cage,

535
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 4: the lifestyle I lived in prison. But I wanted them

536
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: to know who Travis Barble was instead of trap.

537
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, you put it in put on a film.

538
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's next. That's next. Baby steps for me.

539
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a one man show.

540
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 6: I need like a part.

541
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 5: I need to play like I'm halfway through.

542
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Okay, cool you go.

543
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: I haven't finished yet, but I'm halfway through.

544
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah so that yeah, that's you did the audio.

545
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: I haven't get out there yet. I'm gonna get one

546
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Speaker 4: from my brothers.

547
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Speaker 1: Don't like to read. Hey, I got you definitely that

548
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: thing that nice I did.

549
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: I did the documentary to the documentary should be coming

550
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime.

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: Were getting all the specs together now.

552
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: I did a documentary to just give a backdrop of

553
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: where I come from, what happened, who I hurt, and

554
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: who I've helped along the way, so that you have

555
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: to understanding who I am when they do.

556
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: See to move and read the book.

557
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 6: That's big.

558
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: What you tell somebody that you just feel like they

559
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: got a dark cloud over there, That's the first thing

560
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: you tell somebody just feel like that dark cloud over

561
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: the head and.

562
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: It won't leave. Oh yeah, you're in a good place, guy.

563
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: I know somebody got to cast it over their body

564
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: the whole dop you know, for really you got just

565
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: a cloud, great cloud? Yeah you feel here you talking

566
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: about I tell.

567
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: Them cats all the time. Man, there's some cats that's

568
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: praying for your problems.

569
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Speaker 1: That's real ship. Mm hmm.

570
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: I know a bunch of them just praying for our problems.

571
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: So them dark clouds. That really what made me the

572
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: man that I am. I wouldn't have went to prison.

573
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I probably already be dead summer, you know,

574
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: don't you know start using my own shifters. I ain't

575
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: no telling, but I wasn't gonna have this type of knowledge,

576
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 4: of this type of drive to go back into the

577
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: community that I once explored it and destroyed, to help

578
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 4: rebuild it and give the information and even partnering with

579
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Speaker 4: Impact and geting into the county jails, getting the people

580
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: that have who hasn't been convicted, the absentee ballot, people

581
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 4: who won't parole, they don't know that they can still.

582
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Speaker 1: Vote as long as they are all fine.

583
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Speaker 4: I just want to be the biggen the light while

584
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm here to just make a difference and a bigger,

585
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 4: greater impact.

586
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

587
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: That's hard. What you got coming up. Appreciate you. We

588
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: took out. We gonna what you got coming up? I

589
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: got coming up working with the DA office. Ms.

590
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Speaker 4: Willis and her assistant. We're going into the schools and

591
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: into the community to do the record expaniement, going with

592
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 4: Captain White with Cobb County. He has a domestic violence

593
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: centator that they're opening. I'll be I'll be mentoring the kids,

594
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 4: and then Harry County Sheriff's Kendrick working with him as

595
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 4: well as his S three program. I'm just trying to

596
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: be in every position man to help all people. All

597
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: people get a better understanding what what's really going on

598
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: when they do break the law and it ain't the

599
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: end of your life when you do get a sentence.

600
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: I want them to know that turn your your your

601
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: diary into a novel.

602
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, it is a big shout out Doctor Travis Barbary.

603
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: Check out ho up a book One more Time for

604
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Behind the Travels on Amazon.

605
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 1: Amazon. Check that out. You know what I'm saying. It's

606
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: solutely for coming. Thank you as important conversation.

607
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Check us out to Triple W dot bigfaspod dot com

608
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: on the street exactly.

609
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: It's a big facts I don't Captain Bitch.

610
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Coming to you from the Trap Music Museum, Big Bank,

611
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Baby j DJ Scream is here. We're about to have

612
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: a conversation with the one and only stacked on big

613
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: facts right.

614
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Now, give it up a stack Stack. What's up, my brother?

615
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: How you feeling. How you're feeling?

616
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: Man, slow motion? I can't complain. Man. Happy to be here. Congratulations.

617
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: What you guys got going.

618
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: Bro, Salute to you, Salute to you. Man.

619
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Speaker 3: Let everybody know, you know what I'm saying.

620
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: You give yourself your own proper introduction to who Stack is.

621
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, a little bit of your history,

622
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: a little bit what you got going on now, and

623
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: everything like that.

624
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, I'm just humble serving my brother, that's all.

625
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 7: But born and raised in California, San Diego. Been out

626
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 7: here in Atlanta over twenty years. Went to college out here.

627
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 7: I went to Morris Brown back in the day. I'm

628
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 7: back in the nineties. Came out here for a minute

629
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 7: with the Morris Brown left, went back to California, you know,

630
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 7: started dibbling, dabbling with the little music industry, and.

631
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: Came back to Atlanta in two thousand and one.

632
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 7: So I've been out here, you know for a long

633
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 7: about over twenty plus years out here.

634
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: At what point, I guess, you know, between the HBCU

635
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: and the music industry. At what point of that journey

636
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: did you run into your legal issues?

637
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 7: Shit, I really probably about two thousand and I got

638
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 7: my case in March twenty fourteen, So you know, I've

639
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 7: been you know, ducking dodging for a while. But then

640
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 7: you know, life happens and you got to sit down

641
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 7: and reevaluate some things, you know.

642
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: And they're coming out of that, like what was your

643
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: mindset to say, Man, I'm gonna come out of this

644
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: stronger and bigger and better and wise and basically make

645
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: sure I don't have to go through this shit again.

646
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 7: You know, I always tell a person about if it's

647
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 7: about when something happened to you and how you react

648
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 7: and respond to any situation. So when I came home

649
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 7: in January twenty twenty, so you know, I had a

650
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 7: chance to sit down and change my whole perspective. Man,

651
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 7: sometime life will sit you down, and if you get it,

652
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 7: you know you make the right decision when you come home.

653
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 7: So when you're out here in the streets and you're

654
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 7: doing your one two to worry about no bills, you

655
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 7: ain't got to worry about the only thing you're worried

656
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 7: about your freedom. But if you use your time, right,

657
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 7: you got to put a plan together. So that's what

658
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: I did, man, really set down and just reevaluate some

659
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 7: things and put things in perspective.

660
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: So when you were when you had caught your case

661
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Speaker 5: and they sentenced you, and during the period of time

662
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Speaker 5: that you were incarcerated, you applied for the first offender

663
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Speaker 5: at I mean the first it was the first offender,

664
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Speaker 5: first step.

665
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Speaker 3: First, you know, first offender. But the judge don't have

666
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: to give it to you. A lot of that shit.

667
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 7: I didn't know the judge, the judge you asking for

668
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 7: the first offender. They denied it because of the amount

669
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 7: of work I had. So there was like not not

670
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 7: in this case, but it's all up to the judge.

671
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 7: So you know, basically, when the judge told me thirty

672
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 7: to fifteen, I didn't know nothing about another shit and

673
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 7: my attorney was telling me five years and.

674
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: That's the thirty year time for non violent drug charge.

675
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: And so the judge was like, you know, they was

676
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: laughing at my sentence talking about first offender. Not for

677
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: that amount of amount of work you got, you know

678
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: what I mean. So they denied it. They denied it.

679
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: But it's something so basically at their discretion.

680
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: Basically yepp okay.

681
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 6: And then when you did get sentenced, I know that

682
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 6: you got out twenty twenty correct and once you got out,

683
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: you're still on is it ten years of probation or

684
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 6: twenty five total?

685
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 7: It's a total of twenty five because out of that thirty,

686
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 7: you know, when they say do a thirty OD.

687
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Time, which is five years. The rest is all paperwork.

688
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 7: So they wanted me to do ten years parole, which

689
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 7: I've been home almost four years now, so basically ten

690
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 7: years parole.

691
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: Then after my.

692
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 7: Paroles, like, okay, you're done with parole, nigga, Now give

693
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: me fifteen years of probation six hundred thousand dollars.

694
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: Fine, you know what I mean?

695
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 6: So explain to people what's the difference between parole and

696
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: probation parole.

697
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 7: You're still in the Department of Corrections, you know what

698
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 7: I mean? Like you still yeah, you're still locked up.

699
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 7: Like out here in Cally we say you're walking with

700
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 7: a long tail. So it's like you steal any little

701
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 7: hiccup you do shit, they send you back to the

702
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 7: pen for anything.

703
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: Probation.

704
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 7: It's easier to get off probation parole. You know, they

705
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: try to they want you to do that whole thing.

706
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 7: And like I didn't know this at the time, you know,

707
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 7: I was you know, it's my first offense. You know,

708
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 7: I made the cracks from gang banging in California to

709
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 7: make it out of here. But all my partners went

710
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 7: through it. So it's like, right, you know, now I understand,

711
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 7: like damn, but I know people that's in different states,

712
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 7: they get slapped on the risk parole, you know, especially

713
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 7: even the FAD.

714
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: Cause I did stay time the fad. You do it.

715
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 7: Given about two years, I'm coming on off parole. They

716
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: let you off of that paperwork, you know what I mean?

717
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what's the difference, like since you've

718
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: been home, what's the difference you feel?

719
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Like, what's the difference in your life? Man? Really?

720
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: Black, it's like.

721
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: Just the way you move everything you do. Now you

722
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 7: got to make calculated moves. Now, everything you do, you

723
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 7: got to be careful of the people that you're around,

724
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, because any little hiccup, they're

725
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 7: sending you back to the pens. So like the things

726
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 7: that you thought was important back then ain't important no more,

727
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Like you try to realize

728
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 7: we don't borrow time out here, man, So everything we

729
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 7: do you got to make sense.

730
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: You got to do it with a purpose, now, you know,

731
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: you do you.

732
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: See where you were, like, damn where I got caught

733
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: up at? Like was it greed? Was it? God? Damn?

734
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

735
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: You know, like when you go sit down and do

736
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: your time and be like, damn, if I wouldn't have

737
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: been greed up, I would have just at at one

738
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: more chance.

739
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Shit, like when you feel.

740
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 7: Like you fucked up at man, I should have been

741
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 7: washed my hands on me. You know, I gotta You know,

742
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 7: I've been on you for a long time. And you

743
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 7: told me something a while back. You said, when you're

744
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: on the other side, you're blind. You don't know what's

745
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 7: going on. You don't know what's going to happen when

746
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 7: it's coming.

747
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: From that other end.

748
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What you mean? Hellok, you

749
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: gotta get to them.

750
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 7: What you said, you know, like basically when you when

751
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 7: you're receiving, you know, you don't know what's going on

752
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 7: with the senders, you know what I mean. And you

753
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 7: told me a while back home, you said, you know

754
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 7: the migos they dirty, you know, what I mean, they

755
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 7: do you in without without a second, you know, without

756
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 7: the second guess and then what happened basically Yeah, But

757
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: I was a a lot of people relying on me black,

758
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I had a lot of

759
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 7: people are speaking and taken care of man, people's family,

760
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 7: and they depended on me for a lot of things.

761
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 7: And I wasn't loud with doing my one too, you

762
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 7: know what I mean. I was, you know, fucking with

763
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 7: the music, doing my want to stand out the way.

764
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 7: But man, I think I had I should have been

765
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 7: washed my hands on me, you know what I mean?

766
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 7: But people keep everybody don't realize, man, that getting that

767
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 7: money is an addiction, just like a dope and dope

768
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 7: thing they addicted. You can't knock a dope thing because

769
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 7: when you are getting that money, man, you living, You

770
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 7: having financial freedom, you can go where you want to go.

771
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 7: You can do what you want to do. You know,

772
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 7: I mean, I actually go other the country. Man, I'm

773
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 7: a Dominican. I'm in Columbia taking trips and the experience

774
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: I got to travel as price was bro I wouldn't

775
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 7: trade it for nothing, even my whole sit down. I know,

776
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 7: people so of my potets got knocked off, you know

777
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 7: what I mean. So, I mean, I'm thankful, homie. I

778
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 7: ain't got no planks for real on me. I'm thankful.

779
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Man.

780
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: When it comes to criminal justice reform, what do you

781
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: think is the most pressing issue?

782
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Man?

783
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: They just.

784
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 7: Man, they just I see out here I'm speaking in

785
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 7: the state of Georgia.

786
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: They look at you as a number, homie. They look

787
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: at you as a as a number when you locked

788
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: up behind the system.

789
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 7: And I think what you guys are doing speaking on it,

790
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 7: you got it's gotta you know, you got to have

791
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 7: knowledge about it because you know, again, a lot of

792
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 7: people don't know what's going on. They don't know about

793
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 7: you know, getting out here and catching the case. And

794
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 7: they don't know about these public defenders gonna wash them up.

795
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 7: So it's all it's all like it's a setup for us, man,

796
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 7: like we were behind the eight ball.

797
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: Man, scream. We need to educate the people more about it, because, man,

798
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: you don't know about this.

799
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 7: I didn't know about the My judge told me I'm

800
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 7: doing five years. I mean, my attorney told me I'm

801
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 7: doing five years, homie. I was looking at five years

802
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 7: when that judge said thirty to fifteen. Nigga, my whole

803
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 7: life lashed from me. But you know I can't let

804
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: them see me.

805
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: I have no prior from your lawyer that he didn't

806
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: tell He didn't tell me nonh that he said, you're

807
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: looking at five years.

808
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 7: He ain't tell me about all that time on paperwork.

809
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 7: But see, I'm thinking money could buy me, you know,

810
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: buy me off.

811
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: Yer, pay pay lawyer. I had a paid lawyer.

812
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

813
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: And my shit happened in Kyle County. It is dirty

814
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: is you know? It was a good old boy system.

815
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 7: And you know I gave my attorney what twenty five

816
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 7: thousand dollars And because once you decided to state state,

817
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 7: I got rid of my federal attorney because we thought

818
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 7: I was gonna be a fair case. Again, I didn't

819
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 7: know that fans have the right to take it or

820
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 7: not take it.

821
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: And in my mind, I'm thinking I'm already doing fed time.

822
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: When they said it stay in state, I said, okay,

823
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: everybody like.

824
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: You win that. I think black you told me that,

825
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: you said, nigga, that's good to stay stayed.

826
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 7: I'm like, nigga, you know now, I say, I look

827
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 7: back at it like damn I wish to be it

828
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 7: worked out the way it's supposed to work out.

829
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: But I have the slightest idea of home up. When

830
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: they said thirty nigga, I said, damn, but you know

831
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: you gotta stand strong, nigga. You know you know what

832
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: you're signed up for. So you know, you know, I'll go, yeah.

833
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: So what that and standing strong?

834
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: And I ask people that have been on their vacations,

835
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: like when you see so much not standing strong, and

836
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: what kind of nerve is that striking you?

837
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Like? People who don't stand strong? Man?

838
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 7: You know it's a trip, man, because we living in

839
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 7: a society now where motherfucker's okay that ship, you know

840
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 7: what I mean, when motherfucker's fold up under pressure and

841
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 7: it's like, nigga, you know what you're signing for.

842
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: Even these little youngsters banging out here in the.

843
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: Streets or you know, it's a lot of that going

844
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 7: known people accepting it and they still dapping a nigga up.

845
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

846
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 7: I can't I can't condon you, you know what I mean,

847
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 7: Like you look at a lot of people that do

848
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 7: some time back in the days, and you know, I

849
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 7: ain't gonna speak on another man's you know, without seeing

850
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 7: no paperwork. But you know, a nigga get offered thirty years,

851
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 7: a nigga do ten and fifteen, but don't know he

852
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 7: got He told you get that ten to fifteen and

853
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 7: you bet that nigga silid, you know what I mean.

854
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 7: But come on with your homework and see why he

855
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 7: really told. You know why you got that ten to

856
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 7: fifteen and nigga's offered thirty or forty, you know what

857
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: I mean. So it's it's all I can't get. You know,

858
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 7: anybody out here who you know what you sign up for?

859
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know what you sign

860
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: up for. They came at you with that shit. You know,

861
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Right when the state trooper pulled me over,

862
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: he's like, look, nobody know what you got pulled over?

863
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: He said, tell us what's what I'm like, huh. I'm like, man,

864
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: that's what attorneys for. He's like, oh, this your first

865
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: evente you only looking at about twenty five years, you know

866
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: what I mean.

867
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 7: So and then one of the attorneys, the federal attorney,

868
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 7: he said something. He was like, man, look, you don't

869
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 7: have no choice but to cooperate, I said, motherfucker. He

870
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 7: ain't even looked at my damn case. John, No, it

871
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 7: was it was uh, it was his name. The nigga

872
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 7: was he worked with the dude Jerry Frolick. He had

873
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 7: he had a cop forgot his name. He is a

874
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 7: retired officer, so I forgot his name, I said, nigga,

875
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 7: that's why. That's why I said, no, I'm done.

876
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: I think.

877
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean you were sitting down at Benny Hannah and

878
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: I said, now I got rid.

879
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 7: Of dude because you know a boy that got the

880
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 7: Jerry his homeboy, his home boy.

881
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: I forgot his name.

882
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 7: He's out of Cob County, but he is like he

883
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 7: ain't got I said, man, you fired. That's why I

884
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 7: hired Jim Barry out of cop County. This motherfucker talking

885
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 7: about cooperator. I'm like, nigga, like we ain't even gotta

886
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 7: we ain't gotta discuss this more, you know what I mean,

887
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 7: Like it ain't nothing for us to talk about, you

888
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 7: know what I mean? So, and that's and that's what

889
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 7: they do. They get him up. Fucker like who we

890
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 7: and the motherfucker fold. We never been in that situation,

891
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? But like no, I stay

892
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 7: in ten toes down.

893
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: Anything else about when I got big.

894
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Would you would you say to a young nigga like.

895
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Streets is the dead, Like if you can stay out

896
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: the streets, right, would you say that to them? Or

897
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: do you think that some people just got to go

898
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 2: through the streets to open up other doors and learn

899
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: certain shit on their journey.

900
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 7: I mean, I say, do what's best for you, because

901
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 7: we don't know everybody's situation, you know what I mean. Like,

902
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna never tell a nigga not to do

903
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 7: it if I ain't got nothing to offer them, you

904
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like offer these little young niggas

905
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 7: some opportunities to do something, you know what I mean.

906
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 7: That's why I said I don't knock these little young

907
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 7: niggas out here making music, Like a lot of people

908
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 7: don't like this new generation of music. I mean, these

909
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 7: little niggas getting these checks, but you gotta maximize it.

910
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 7: When you get that money, you nigga do something where

911
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 7: to take care of your people and put them on

912
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 7: And it's all about trying to have financial freedom the

913
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 7: right way, because nigga has got damn the streets today,

914
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 7: it's a circle. It's gonna set you up. If you

915
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 7: get in, get in and get out, you know what

916
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 7: I mean. I should have been washed my hands on me.

917
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 7: I had a good run. I say I was in

918
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 7: and out, but again I have people relying on me.

919
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 7: I'm feeding people in the other states and other cities.

920
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: So it was hard.

921
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 7: It's easy to say, get in, get out, but when

922
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 7: you when you got financial freedom, nigga, you could go

923
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 7: touch one hundred some thousand dollars cash. Two hundred some

924
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 7: thousand dollars cash, nigga, that's hard to you know what

925
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 7: I mean. I'm mad that I didn't make no investments, Homie.

926
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 7: I didn't have nobody to really guide me and schooled

927
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 7: me to show me how literacy. Yeah, yeah, I didn't

928
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 7: have nobody like that. I didn't have I've been around

929
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 7: when Meat was doing this thing. I see the same

930
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 7: thing I've been. I've been around when he went to

931
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 7: side in life back in the day. He's like, yo, Stack,

932
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 7: you know tell life.

933
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you know, Homie, I just

934
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: it's it's all a learning experience on me.

935
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 7: It's all about what you go through. Like again, we

936
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 7: all gonna face something in life, homies. How you're gonna

937
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 7: react and respond when you face with it, you know.

938
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: What I mean. What's the worst part about the current

939
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: modern day street to street.

940
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 7: Coach man, They know they don't respect the old geez

941
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 7: It's no, it's no. You know, these niggas don't respect

942
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: the cold, you know what I mean? Like, but who

943
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 7: paid the way?

944
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

945
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 7: These the younger generation, you gotta go, you know, go

946
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 7: sit down and talk to your big homies and really

947
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 7: see what's up. Let them lay you up, you know

948
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 7: what I mean, Because when your low homies is uh

949
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 7: is disrespecting the big homie or the big homie, ain't

950
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 7: you know?

951
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: It's the big disrespecting these Yeah, that's right too, went

952
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 4: paying the cody respec Yeah, they definitely, they definitely ain't.

953
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 7: See when I when I go back home to Cali,

954
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 7: my nigga, the little young niggas like you know, like

955
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 7: like gangster gangster I told you, you know, the homie

956
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 7: he he removed himself because these little young niggas is

957
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 7: he he he lived by the cold, you know what

958
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 7: I mean. We come up in the sambost together even

959
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: like shure, they don't look at these young niggas, don't

960
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 7: They don't fear sugar no more.

961
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

962
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: They look at him like, Nigga, you a joke, you know,

963
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 7: man ready bush he I already known reputation and so.

964
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 7: But but they they they knock each other off. Homie

965
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: scream were so strong Homie as a unit, you know

966
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 7: what I mean. Like even when I was in the

967
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 7: pen the niggas respected me in the penitentiary because I

968
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: know how to carry myself.

969
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: Homie.

970
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 7: I come from a school or you know what I'm saying.

971
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: They laced my tennis shoes up real well. But Homie,

972
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 7: I don't think. I don't think they live by these

973
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 7: same rules. And these little niggas is telling. I think

974
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 7: telling is a big thing going on right now. The niggas, Hey,

975
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 7: him did it, That's the first thing. Him did it,

976
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

977
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: But then the social media fuckingly people up too.

978
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 7: They I just saw something on TV the other day

979
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 7: where what's a little young nigga name out of New

980
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 7: York him and him, an offset was beeping about something like, Nigga,

981
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 7: you don't don't get on camera, nigga.

982
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: Do if you gotta do.

983
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 7: Something, do something, do it, nigga. But you know, what

984
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: I mean, like, and you know, dudes seem like a

985
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 7: pretty solid dude. But it's like, nigga, sometimes you're telling

986
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 7: yourself one nigga, you know what I mean, if you're

987
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 7: gonna do someth nigga, I don't know. We ain't got

988
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 7: to parade it. You know, you know what it is.

989
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 7: So you know, we're you on social media. Like way

990
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 7: back then.

991
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: Before your being and everything, Man, I had a Facebook

992
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: page or like like that. But it's like right now,

993
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: I feel like if I got something to promote, I'll

994
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: get on there and make it.

995
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 7: I know eventually i'ma have to get an Instagram page.

996
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 7: I want to do this the social move I want

997
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 7: to talk about criminal justice reform. I want to talk

998
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 7: about this shit and I really want to have a platform.

999
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 7: But I don't want to do it just for no likes.

1000
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 7: I don't want people that I don't want to be

1001
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 7: looking at nobody's page.

1002
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: Home.

1003
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 7: It's about it's a sense of urgency now stream home,

1004
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 7: it ain't we ain't got time to play right now.

1005
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 7: It's about building generational wealth. Homean thinking, long term stability foundation,

1006
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

1007
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: So, speaking of generational wealth and the future, and all

1008
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. Go ahead and tell people who

1009
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: might not be familiar with what you're doing now about

1010
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: like everything that you have going on now, because you

1011
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 5: got some really big nature shit.

1012
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see you all the time on seid, you

1013
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1014
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: That's you.

1015
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: You're doing big things.

1016
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 7: But you know, I came home in January twenty twenty,

1017
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 7: and like two months after that home, it was a pandemic,

1018
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: you know, covid here.

1019
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 3: I said, damn, everybody talking about nigga locked deal. I said, nigga.

1020
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I just came off with lockdown Nigga.

1021
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna have fun.

1022
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 7: So in my mind, I'm thinking, like, what's how am

1023
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 7: I gonna get some money now? Because I you know,

1024
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 7: I got the money the other way.

1025
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: So I sing.

1026
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 7: They're just waiting, waiting, trying to figure out what I'm

1027
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 7: gonna do. I have my cdo license for a long time.

1028
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 7: I never used them, you know what I mean. When

1029
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 7: when Jamal had the little truck coming here, I never

1030
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 7: put to use, you know what I mean.

1031
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: But so I'm thinking, like what am I gonna do?

1032
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do?

1033
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 7: And one of my partners phase I love e from

1034
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 7: my hometown and Toashina Arnold like you still got your farm?

1035
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1036
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, he from home. He's the hometown from Daego man

1037
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 7: him and Toshina Arnold and ye that's from mister Homegirls.

1038
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 7: And then Storm Reed's mind. They all the industry robbin.

1039
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 7: I don't know if you need to rob it. So

1040
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 7: they telling me, they like, you got your CDO license. Man,

1041
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 7: you need to get on with the teamsters. I'm like,

1042
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 7: what the fuck is the Team Stir?

1043
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1044
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is right after the strike, so after

1045
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: the pandemic.

1046
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 7: I'm sitting around like my money going like this, the

1047
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 7: money I have saved up is going smaller and smaller.

1048
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, about to force my hand. I'm

1049
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: like what I'm gonna do?

1050
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 7: And so there was like you need to get your teamsters,

1051
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 7: you need to get with the team strews some good money,

1052
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So and so so on

1053
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 7: and so and somebody's like there go apply and I'm like, okay,

1054
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 7: So I applied.

1055
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: You know it's a little spot over off by Lakewood.

1056
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 7: Oh what's that? Lakewood one sixty six. That's where the

1057
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: headquarters of the Team Stirs is. So I don't know

1058
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 7: nothing about the team. They say, you got to pay

1059
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 7: eighteen hundred dollars, You got to get.

1060
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: A copy of deal. Eighteen hundred dollars.

1061
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 7: The don't give you a guaranteed job home. It's like,

1062
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 7: you pay eighteen hundred dollars, you might get on. So

1063
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 7: I'm like, man, I'm not going to get nigga. I

1064
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 7: ain't got eighteen hundreds to give away.

1065
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: And someone said, fuck, you know what, just go try

1066
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: to them down there taking eighteen hundred dollars. I slept

1067
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: in the car.

1068
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: I never did this before, Homie. I said, you know,

1069
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: I've been been transferred on buses, in prison for X

1070
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 7: amount of hours, been in the hole, and all that's

1071
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: what's gonna take you to go send the car for

1072
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 7: a minute.

1073
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: Had everything? Got me a pillow? Slept in the car.

1074
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 7: Was a long ass line to apply because this is

1075
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 7: the first time the team was hired since twenty seventeen.

1076
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 7: To pay that eighteen hundred dollars shit, I got on

1077
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 7: working My first show was like The Residents with what's

1078
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 7: my man's name?

1079
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: This is a Fox show with the act like they

1080
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: doctors or something like that. Dougie Hazard, I don't know

1081
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was just driving. I was just driving.

1082
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 7: What you do like so so transportation. I'm in the

1083
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 7: transportation department. So we might pull trailers that the actors

1084
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 7: be in. Were the first ones on the set with

1085
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 7: the last ones to leave, you know, we just if

1086
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 7: we're film it right here, and then tomorrow we got

1087
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 7: to fill in downtown Atlanta.

1088
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: We got to get all the.

1089
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 7: Quick lot of trailers and yeah, and then like or

1090
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 7: some type of the big white truck, some of.

1091
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: The big ones. So many different departments.

1092
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 7: You could drive the you could drive the actors personally,

1093
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 7: you could drive the trailers. You could do stuff with sound,

1094
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: you can do stuff with electric. There's so many different departments.

1095
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 7: But it's it's some good little money.

1096
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: You can make anywhere five thousand dollars a week. You

1098
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 7: can make three thousand dollars a week, and it's you know,

1099
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 7: health benefits is good. It's some good money for a

1100
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 7: person that want.

1101
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: To live right.

1102
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 7: Like, it's not an average job. Like I told you,

1103
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 7: I haven't worked on BMF. That's why always see Jade

1104
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 7: on that I worked on BMF. I worked on Underdogs

1105
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 7: movies with Snoop Dogg and Mike Epps. I done worked

1106
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 7: on Kingdom Business, a BT show, and I didn't build

1107
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 7: some great relationship with the actors, with the directors. So

1108
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 7: it's you know, you put me in a position, you

1109
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 7: put me with the worst of the worst and the

1110
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 7: best of the best, and it's like, you know, I

1111
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 7: really had a good opportunity to meet some good people

1112
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 7: on them sets.

1113
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: Man, So how is that?

1114
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? So how is the strike affecting you guys?

1115
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 6: Right now?

1116
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: Man? Everybody going through it?

1117
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 7: Everybody through I'm talking about people losing a like a

1118
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 7: lot of people, a lot of drivers calling me like, man, Stack,

1119
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 7: can you help me get a job?

1120
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Do this?

1121
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 7: And you know, I got some good connection with some people.

1122
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 7: What I still I can call an artist and get

1123
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 7: on the road and do some road manager work.

1124
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: But they're like, man, can you help me get a job?

1125
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Everybody?

1126
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: It's fucked up, Jay, like.

1127
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: More money.

1128
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 7: The actors and writers. You know they're trying to and

1129
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 7: I'm new to all this black you know what I mean,

1130
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 7: I'm like shit, So when they say strike, I now

1131
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 7: that rod sleeves up on me. I'm not gonna just

1132
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 7: depend on the teachers or the film But you know.

1133
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: It's like yeah, everybody, Yeah, everybody, everybody going through a

1134
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: black like.

1135
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 5: Then another thing too that I saw that was like

1136
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 5: extremely disrespectful from my perspective, is how they were trying

1137
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: to basically say that during the strike they were going

1138
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: to replace the people that have been working this hard

1139
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 5: all their lives with like some artificial intelligence and pay

1140
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: them more than they were paying.

1141
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 6: The people, the human people. That's crazy.

1142
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard about it.

1143
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 6: Man.

1144
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 7: People out here got family and needs they got to

1145
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 7: take care of, like the directors and like the A

1146
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 7: list actors, and they good.

1147
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: They could they can sit back and they could take

1148
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: their trips, you know what I mean.

1149
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 7: I know it might affect them, but for the ones

1150
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 7: who are just now struggling that's trying to get on, man,

1151
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 7: that's motherfucker's out here getting.

1152
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: Sucked up, you know what I mean.

1153
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 7: I'm it's all bad, but I know again it ain't.

1154
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 7: It ain't the best. But I got collateral if I

1155
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 7: need to sell some of these rolextions if I need to.

1156
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: You know, this ain't nothing go that's just for I don't.

1157
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't care about none of that stuff, you know.

1158
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not a survive When you when you

1159
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 7: when you've been in the in the trenches, at the

1160
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 7: bottom of the bottom, you know what I mean, buying

1161
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 7: this ship. Just listen, I don't care about none of

1162
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 7: that ship man. That's all materials, cushion, you know what

1163
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 7: I mean. So ship, But I know we're supposed to

1164
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 7: get back rolling probably about hopefully.

1165
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: They saying about January, you know what I mean. And damn,

1166
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: that's still that's a long way. You know, it's a

1167
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: long way.

1168
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 7: But you know, you gotta you know, they offer a

1169
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 7: little bit of small assistance for teams. I can't speak

1170
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 7: of how they do with the actors and hearing that,

1171
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

1172
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: But they offer us a little a little help, a

1173
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: little incentives to just get us, you know, get us

1174
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: to get by. But it ain't like them three four

1175
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: thousand dollars checks coming every week, you know.

1176
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Right, So what's the ultimate goal for you? Like, what's

1177
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: your next big win? You know what I'm saying.

1178
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: Obviously it's a win being free and changing everything around,

1179
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: But what's your next big win?

1180
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 7: Definitely, I'm in the process trying to get off parole.

1181
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 7: I just submitted a package to the pro board last weekend.

1182
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 7: Once I get off parole, I can start traveling more

1183
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 7: because you know, like traveling is like it's therapeutic to me,

1184
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 7: bro like just one of the different countries and just

1185
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 7: meet people from different backgrounds. So once I get off parole,

1186
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 7: you know, if I get off this hopefully, but then

1187
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 7: hopefully I should we hear something the next couple of

1188
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 7: months about getting off parole and then once I get

1189
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 7: off probation.

1190
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: But I want to travel. I want to get to

1191
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: these prisons and speak. I want to get to these

1192
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: juvenile facilities, go to Metroll, hit DC out here in

1193
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: the line, and start at these elementary schools, I mean

1194
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: not the elementary, the high schools and talk to them.

1195
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: It's it's a difference between sympathy and empathy home, you

1196
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1197
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 7: Like so when you when you've been through it, you

1198
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 7: could get a nigga to get up here and talk

1199
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 7: way and never been through the system and everything. They

1200
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 7: probably have some family members, but nigga, when you've been

1201
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 7: through it, Nigga, that's my passion. I get up here

1202
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 7: and I can speak about this shit all day because

1203
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 7: it's like nigga, I want to say the next month,

1204
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 7: but I might not be able to get them all homie.

1205
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 7: But I get out there and you put me around

1206
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 7: the worst of the worst little niggas, and I'm gonna

1207
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 7: go out there and speak and tell them what it

1208
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 7: is home. You don't like if you get an opportunity,

1209
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 7: get in and get out. If you don't, that's what

1210
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: you're gonna get in. Because I ain't gonna say don't

1211
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 7: do it. I'm gonna just say I ain't gonna shagarcoat

1212
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 7: it like nigga get in cause some people in a situation,

1213
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 7: that's what they gotta do right now, you know what

1214
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 7: I mean. But I'm gonna just try to give him

1215
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 7: the real deal, you know what I mean. Like I

1216
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 7: got a little boy, a little youngsters I was mentoring. Man,

1217
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 7: he locked up right now. But it's like his environment.

1218
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 7: He comes from the he come from the trenches, my nigga.

1219
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1220
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 7: Five brothers and sisters, you know what I mean. I

1221
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 7: want two bedroom apartment. And when I left the streets,

1222
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 7: I had him under my wing.

1223
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: I used to look out for him. When I left,

1224
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: I kind of lost him in the system, you know

1225
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. So my my end game, man, just

1226
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: get out here and speak and if you guys got

1227
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: something going, y'all need me to help him?

1228
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 7: Come talk to somebody. Man, I'll do it anytime. I'll

1229
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 7: show up anytime.

1230
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna let you come to the schools on

1231
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: parole and shit, now you.

1232
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: Could get by, but they gotta it's a process. You

1233
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: gotta go through it.

1234
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 7: I'm trying to go speak at metroll Hite DC right now,

1235
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 7: and they say they gotta go.

1236
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 3: You know. It's just like waivers and stuff you gotta sign.

1237
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: But I speak.

1238
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 7: I speak over at the Atlanta Refuge, you know, the

1239
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 7: City of Refuge over here.

1240
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: I go there and speak to some of them brothers

1241
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: making transitions, you know what I mean. And you know

1242
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 3: I remember loom other mirror. We do a lot of speaking,

1243
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 3: We go around and do a lot of streaking. He

1244
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: got parole though.

1245
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, that process is like their process is very

1246
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: tedious because I do like I've been going. I started

1247
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 5: doing that last year too, like going into the jails,

1248
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 5: and you know, like the schools aren't really as tedious

1249
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: as it is like when you're going into the correctional facilities.

1250
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 5: But once you get past that, like you can pretty

1251
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: much go anywhere and do anything and like really get

1252
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: in there and make a difference for real.

1253
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: But you know that, you know they pay, they pay.

1254
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: Now it's all kind of grunted when you go out

1255
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: here and get money on me, like to really go

1256
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: speak in these prisons.

1257
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, school too, Yeah yeah, school, bank too.

1258
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 3: And somebody told me like, man, Stack, don't go, don't don't.

1259
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 8: Speak for free, you know, But it's like my mindset

1260
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 8: fee free, Like could bring a fee, you know what

1261
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 8: I mean, Like I go up there, but everybody like Stack,

1262
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 8: they paying people, giving people grunts.

1263
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 6: No, but I mean you gotta like go like in

1264
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 6: the first got to start.

1265
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: And then once you're able to show that like Okay,

1266
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: this is what I'm able to do, and this is

1267
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: how I'm able to cap to may these kids or

1268
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, these inmates or you know the community that's

1269
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: incarcerated or whatever, then you can demand you know what

1270
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying, your worth basically.

1271
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, And that's why I want you to let

1272
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 7: where'd you guys have a book?

1273
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: That's the thing that just passed. I saw, you know,

1274
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: brother Jeremy Anderson, and I know him and Eric Thomas.

1275
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 7: They be getting paid. They get paid a lot of

1276
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 7: money to speak to motivational speaks. I'm like, shit, ship,

1277
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 7: we could go up there and get like you know

1278
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 7: what I mean, We go and speak, but they have

1279
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 7: a different audience. But you know it's like but like again,

1280
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 7: it's sympathy and empathy. They speak that message, they motivate

1281
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 7: and they do a good job. I'm not knocking brothers,

1282
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 7: but we've been through it, you know what I mean.

1283
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 7: We know what it's likes real to get up here

1284
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: and speak and they cutting bake checks. So that's why

1285
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 7: I said, what you guys doing, man? Like this a

1286
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 7: lot of time, you guys just dropping so many jewels

1287
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 7: on here. Man, I'd be like, damn, that's a beautiful thing.

1288
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 7: So eventually, you know what I mean, I ain't got

1289
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 7: to approach about to do a couple of podcasts. So if

1290
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 7: I you know, if I get something going, man, I'm

1291
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 7: just you know, it's all about in life, we gotta

1292
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 7: became cheap the process.

1293
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: We gotta trust it. So I'm just trusting the process

1294
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: and showing up man, and staying consistent, you know what

1295
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: i mean.

1296
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: Read.

1297
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read a lot. Yeah I read.

1298
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: If you could recommend one book that's like life changing

1299
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: for somebody, what would you recommend.

1300
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: Let me see my one book.

1301
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 7: It's a book out by I forgot the brother's name.

1302
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 7: It's called He's talking about Martin and Malcolm. I can't

1303
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 7: think of the name of it. It's uh, a dream

1304
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 7: and a nightmare or something like that.

1305
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: I want to say. I forgot the author's name, but

1306
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: I read it back in the pen.

1307
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 7: But it was like, you know, when Martin and Malcolm,

1308
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, It's like talking about their

1309
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 7: lives I had combined.

1310
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: But I can't think of that name right now.

1311
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 7: Man, I can't think of it as a book somebody

1312
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 7: recommended to me when I was in the pen.

1313
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: I read it.

1314
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: It was life changing. It's a dream or a nightmare

1315
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: or something like that, but it's it's it's a it's

1316
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: a great read. I recommend anybody to read it.

1317
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 7: But I love I love reading about a person autobiography

1318
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 7: about their life, what they've been through, and you know,

1319
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: telling the story how they just came through adversity and

1320
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 7: made it out.

1321
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean By James come yeah, James,

1322
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: come yeah? What is a dream or not here.

1323
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: With Martin Malcolm? Yeah? An American? A dream or a nightmare? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1324
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 7: So you know, they both played a major role in

1325
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 7: our in our lives, you know what I mean, because

1326
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 7: like right now, we ain't we ain't got no major

1327
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 7: leaders out here that story that's in position that's willing

1328
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 7: to die.

1329
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: For this ship, you know what I mean. Right, So

1330
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: we got we got work to do. It's our job.

1331
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1332
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 7: You guys got platforms, you know what I mean, to

1333
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 7: go here and speak and you know, and blite people.

1334
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: Want to you know, really it's really ready to step

1335
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: up to the plate, you.

1336
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 7: Know what I mean, Like I ain't afraid to, you know,

1337
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 7: to speak, speak of mind.

1338
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta be squeaky clean to do that ship. Yeah, yeah,

1339
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1340
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: You gotta be all the way clean and just jump

1341
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: out there like that because soon as you.

1342
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Know, they they try to dig into you and find

1343
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah yeah, what do you call it?

1344
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: Uh the credit credit?

1345
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: They're going to discredit you by pulling up you know

1346
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: you probably did it before you became man.

1347
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm black.

1348
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 7: You know, you got to stand on what your stand

1349
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 7: on in life, you know what I mean, Like my

1350
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 7: past will make our past make us who we are,

1351
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 7: you know, what I mean. Like, you know, sometimes people

1352
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 7: wait till late in the game because I jump off

1353
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 7: the porch, Like, nigga, don't.

1354
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: Wait to you.

1355
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 7: It's just two later to jump out the game. But

1356
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 7: it make you who you are, a bill character, you

1357
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 7: know what I mean. Like I'm not a shame in

1358
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 7: my past. I'm not a shame with what I did

1359
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 7: in the past because it made me who I am,

1360
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, from from banging to hustling

1361
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 7: to doing all I did, Homie, it shows you who

1362
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 7: you really are, you know what I mean, And you

1363
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 7: gotta still have that Like like Black, I know you.

1364
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 7: I've seen you grow, Homie, I seen you mature. I mean,

1365
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 7: you ain't who you used to be, but you still bite,

1366
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Like, you know you still bite,

1367
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 7: and it's like you just move different now and people

1368
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 7: respect your mind, you know what I mean, So you

1369
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 7: don't have to go back and be who you are.

1370
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: But you know, like, don't nigga, don't test me. That's

1371
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: still in me, Nigga, you know what I mean.

1372
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 7: But it's like when you get older, you get wiser, bro,

1373
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 7: and it's like the decisions you make you can't know.

1374
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 7: It's consequences now, you know what I mean, Like damn okay,

1375
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 7: if I do this, you got to think about the consequence.

1376
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 7: So now in the penitentiary, a nigga call you a punk,

1377
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 7: call you fact.

1378
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: You gotta whoop.

1379
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 7: Niggas ask you know what I mean, nigga, nigga can't

1380
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 7: try you in there now.

1381
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 6: Some real ship.

1382
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah here, you got a nigga you gotta pass nigga

1383
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: because you ain't gonna take it. I'm gonnake it to

1384
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: So nigga you got you know, I mean, just so

1385
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: buch your hands on me, my nigga.

1386
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 7: So it's about maturity now the old Yeah, come on home,

1387
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 7: let's let's take this one.

1388
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. But now it's like, nigga,

1389
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: you got that, you know what I mean, Like, nigga,

1390
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: I got I got stuff to left for it. Now, nigga,

1391
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: you so you still in the so a lot of

1392
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: people stuck homey and they look at.

1393
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: You where you used to be. You know what I mean.

1394
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 7: I'm pretty people probably still look at you like, oh

1395
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 7: the old black you know, I do take you know

1396
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 7: what I mean. There's another you know, it's like they

1397
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 7: don't see the elevation and growth of maturity, you.

1398
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1399
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 7: So it's like, Homie, I'm just thinkingful home every day,

1400
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 7: scream on some real ship.

1401
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: And everything extra every day extra man, every breath I

1402
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 4: take after after saying this is extra.

1403
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah man, salute to you man. We appreciate you.

1404
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: On social media, so they want to catch up with

1405
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: what you got going on.

1406
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 3: They can hit black.

1407
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 6: They get.

1408
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 7: If it's something, if it's something important, you know what

1409
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 7: I mean. Like, you know what I mean, But eventually

1410
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get you. I'm gaet tapped in with social media.

1411
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 7: Hom I just got a lot of work to do

1412
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 7: out here. You know, I got work to do, and

1413
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 7: I feel like I don't. I'm not saying social media

1414
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 7: on knock me off my square, but distraction.

1415
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so don't get you back on. Yeah, appreciate real.

1416
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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is real. This is you know, Yeah, you

1417
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 7: got a part to else smoking you know what I mean.

1418
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