1 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zam this Monday, and ty Nannie Stevens, 2 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with me as the 3 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Jags fall. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: To oho and four. 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: There winless this season, as they fall to the Texans 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: in a game that they led and could have won 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: but didn't end up that wet. 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk things out. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Big thing Number one is oh no oho and four 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: for this team. Brian, We've talked about those small playoff 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: chances when they were oh and three. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Oh and four, they're pretty much nonexistent. Things are not 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: looking up right now. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: No, and listen. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: Oh and four is a scenario that I don't think 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 4: a lot of people thought was possible. They thought this 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: team was talented enough. They get a win in the 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: month of September probably two, and when you look at it, 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: that's certainly something that could have happened. But to sit 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: here right now, zero and four, it unleashes a torrent 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: of negativity. People aren't interested in your football team right now. 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: You're coming home this week with the throwbacks that everybody 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: wanted to see. Right there should be this enormous ground 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: swell with Tom Coughlin going into the Pride the legends 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: here if you had just one win right now, you 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: could sell a win over the Colts, and we're right 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: in the thick of this thing. But to watch it 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: get away and John, the thing that stood out to 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: me is they had fourth and goal at the one 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: yard line and I doubted that they would get it, 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: and they got the ball back with three fifty one 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: left to play and I thought, oh, and they went 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: three and out. It's almost predictable that this team is 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: going to find a way not to get the job done, 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: because that's what they've done the first four games. 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually had, believe it or not, some positive 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: emails from people saying, hey, you know, they played better, 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: they did good things, and they did and they've done 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: good things week one or two. The problem is, this 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: is not a team right now that's built to build, 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: you know, and I don't I'm not saying they don't 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: want to build at this point, but this was not 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: supposed to be a one in three or zero to four, 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: even two and two coming out of the gate. It 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: was supposed to do it now, and they're not doing 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 3: the things now that you have to do to win. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: There are spots, but you know, here and there and 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: improvement and spurts. That's not what this season's about, but 49 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: the critical spots. 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: And that's the part that I have the most regret for, 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: the critical moments. Look, you got a fourth and goal 52 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: at the one yard line. Whether you want them to 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: kick or goal for it, you got to get the points. 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: You can't come away with nothing three point fifty one 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: left to play. You have two timeouts and you have 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: a three point lead at your own thirty yard line, 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: and you can't get a first down or two. I mean, 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: that's what an elite quarterback is supposed to get you. 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: That's what a team that expects to win is supposed 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: to be able to do. And yet in the biggest moments, 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, when the most opportunity was there, 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: they haven't been able to do it. 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: At leads us into big thing Number two, which is 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: Trevor trouble. Brian touched on it, but Trevor also talked 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: about it. There were some miss throws out out there, 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: some missed opportunities that he didn't take advantage of. 67 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: I s I have to watch it. You know, both 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: both felt good coming out and obviously just missed it. 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: You know, guys, at a good job today have getting opened. 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: You know, they played a lot of man coverage, which 71 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 5: is something you know as an offense that you'd like 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: to see, you know, get your players have a chance 73 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 5: to go win one on ones and as a quarterback 74 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: you get to go, you know, push the. 75 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: Ball down field at times. 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, it was just just missed a few. 77 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: John. 78 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of problems with this team right now, 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: not just Trevor, but I think we needed more from 80 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Trevor yesterday and I think those two miss throws were big. 81 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: I think the fourth and one there were plays out 82 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: there to be had that we didn't get from him. 83 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, look on the bomb to Kirk. Not every quarterback 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: completes that every time. The problem is that's the moment 85 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: we've all been talking about. Those are the moments the 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior missed in the first quarter. You know, 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: have to hit all those but I think Trevor said 88 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: it best. You're not going to hit them all, but 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: you've got to hit more than he's hitting. There's also 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: the moments there's some pocket awareness stuff, not awful yesterday, 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: but still going on. As Brian alluded to at some 92 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: point year four, contract signed, all that stuff. There's got 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: to be some lifting going on, and the lifting's not 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: going on. 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at right now. I've had this 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: conversation with people about does Treuvor have enough confidence? And 97 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: I look at a guy and it clearly looks to 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 4: me like he is struggling with the weight of the expectations. 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: In fact, the head coach even said that the guy 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: who's on the television broadcast talked about him, mentioning it 101 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: in their production meetings that he appears to be dealing 102 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: with something the expectations that he didn't the first couple 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: of years. So I get it his confidence, But how 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: about my confidence in him when the moment is there, John, 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: I expect him to be able to make it all 106 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: the time. No, I don't think he's Tom Brady. I 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: don't think that he is is Patrick Mahomes. But three 108 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: fifty one left to play, two timeouts, and you've been 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: able to move the ball effectively, and you can't get 110 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: a first down or two to salt this one away. 111 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: My confidence in him right now is a bit shaken. 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: I hope that that's just me an observer and not 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: the locker room. 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the shame of it is on the drive you're 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 3: talking about Brian second and ten, he made what really 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: wasn't a bad throw over to Gabe Davis and the 117 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: Texans defender made a nice play getting the book. But 118 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: when I say that, we're talking about moments and we're 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: sort of picking it apart big picture, those moments have 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: to happen more. And as Brian said, you don't have 121 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: a feeling four minutes, six minutes key situations that there 122 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: is a surge forward. You feel like there's sort of 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: dog paddling, if you will. 124 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: And this conversation and conversations like these kai are going 125 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: on all over town and they're not going away, and 126 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: they shouldn't at this point in time. He's gonna have 127 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: to fight through this. Whether it's his wife, whether it's 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: his family, whether it's a coach, someone's going to have 129 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: to help him through this very difficult stretch. And if 130 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: they do, I believe he's capable of being reclaimed and 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: being a guy that can lead this team to wins. 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: But this is real adversity and personally he's got to 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: get through it. 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: I think we all know he's capable. 135 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: It's getting through that diversity fighting through that we've talked about, 136 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: and that's definitely not going to end anytime soon. Because 137 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: they're only four games into the season. Our final big 138 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: thing today is going to be depleted defense. The defense 139 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: played really well I think overall, especially considering all the 140 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: injuries they've been dealing with. 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: Right before the game, Devin Lloyd was scratched. 142 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Brian, I think we saw some impressed and plays out 143 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: of Ventrel Miller. Monterrek Brown has been playing well as 144 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: he stepped in, and over all, the defense I think 145 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: did pretty well. 146 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: It did, and I was surprised. They wrote in my 147 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: notebook while watching the game yesterday, the defense looks a 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: step slow. How many starters are missing? You know? Is 149 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 4: that why? And then yet they came out john in 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: the third quarter and five straight drives. They took a 151 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: Texans offense that scored on three of their first four 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: drives in the first half and made a punt And 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: so I was really impressed, especially with Montterrek Brown, who 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: had a rugged night on Monday Night football and struggled 155 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: a bit early in the first half against Nico Collins, 156 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: and the Texans really played well. Then trom Miller, I'm 157 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: going to talk about him. I think he's played terrific. 158 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: The defense played well enough for you to win. And 159 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: I know you look at the yards and the last drive, 160 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 4: but the defense did everything they could, well almost everything 161 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: they could. They could have got another takeaway. 162 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it played well enough to win. I think what 163 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: they would tell you pressure in big situations. There were 164 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: moments where they didn't get to Stroud where they could 165 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: have against Miami and this game, good efforts overall. At 166 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: the same time, in that winning moment at the end, 167 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: you allowed a long time consuming drive and then no takeaway. 168 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: So look more than good enough to win. But I 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: know they're sitting there this morning saying, man, the moments. 170 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: Just like everything that's defined this season so far, it's 171 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: the moments that matter, and the whole team hasn't come 172 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: through in those moments. That's why you're only four it is. 173 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: And there's a lot to look forward to as well 174 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: going forward. 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Josh Heinzellen left that game with a concussion, so it's 176 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: something to consider as we look forward what they're going 177 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: to look like this week against the Cults. Say with 178 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: us here on Jacksam, we're going to go over the 179 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: highlights from yesterday. Move the freight move the freight Magellan 180 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: transportvoted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. 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No, it's kind 191 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 6: of a strange question, but okay. 192 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson asked after the game about his 193 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: status going forward with the team as the team is 194 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: zero to four. I haven't seen any changes yet, but 195 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: always an option no. 196 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: And you know, clearly it's an awkward question to ask, 197 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: it's a tough question to answer. It's just life in 198 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: the NFL. It's not like Doug hasn't heard that before. 199 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: It's not like every coach whose team is in a 200 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: losing rut doesn't hear that. It's a fair question and 201 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: he gave it an answer. 202 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be a topic till it's not. It's not 203 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: my exact hot take, but it's on those lines later. 204 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: So I'll say, okay, all right, let's look at some 205 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: of the film from yesterday. There were some good things 206 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and then there were some not so good things. So 207 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: let's start off with this muffed Punp's felt like the 208 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: play that the Jaguars needed, right, They're waiting for that 209 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: sign Daniel Thomas able to recover this at the two 210 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: yard line, give yourself a short field after you know, 211 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: not getting anything going on offense. To get the ball 212 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: immediately back in the red zone felt like maybe this 213 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: is moment. 214 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: Finally, right, And I did think when they got the 215 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: ball that to here they were going to score. I mean, 216 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: this team had been waiting for something good to happen, 217 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: and then of course the touchdown passed to what Brian 218 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior just it felt like it made sense. 219 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: Well, it was a little different scenario because they sort 220 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: of had time after this play, They had time to 221 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: sort of gather and come in, whereas they tried to 222 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: go tempo later in the game and just never really 223 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: could get that momentum back from the fifty eight yarder. Yeah, 224 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: it was a clutch play. It was a big time play. 225 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a big time moment to take 226 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: advantage of it, and you felt like that it kept 227 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: them in the game even when they had sort of 228 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: a first half ull so huge. 229 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Put absolutely, especially after Monday Night football when we saw 230 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: them get out of it so early. I felt like 231 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: they really needed that at this point. But then Texan's 232 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of going the other way. 233 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: C J. 234 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: Stroud. 235 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: That connection with Nico Collins, we saw it right out 236 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: of the gate yesterday just I think one hundred and 237 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: fifty one yards they had on twelve receptions for him 238 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: and the touchdown later on that is just I mean, 239 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: I know they have a great why receiving course, so 240 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: it was going to be somebody, but that one really hurt. 241 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: Yet, Well, you did. 242 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 4: Choose, was it DeAndre Hopkins who used to beat the 243 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: Jaguars or Andre Johnson. Nico Collins is a guy that 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: seemed like he could go against anyone and find any 245 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: spot on the field and make a reception. 246 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: It hurt, but it didn't. It felt like they kept 247 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: it under control enough to stay in it. There's sometimes 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: with a high powered offense like this that you sort 249 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: of have to I don't wanna say, can see you 250 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: want to give one hundred and fifty, but I don't 251 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: know that they felt like this completely controlled the game 252 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: until the very end twenty seven yarder, right, yeah, so 253 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: stayed in it. But then again, big moments for this 254 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: franchise this year, big moment at the end. 255 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did a pretty good job with I 256 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: think some of the other receivers. Obviously Steph Diggs had 257 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: the touchdown, but overall that held him pretty well. Had 258 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: that touchdown there as they tied up the game. Then 259 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: later some issues Trevor talked about, obviously connecting overthrow on Kirk, 260 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: that issue with Brian Thomas Junior a couple of plays 261 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: there where he was overthrown, and then also Brian not 262 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: getting his head around maybe a rookie mistake a little 263 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: later on. But it just hurts when you go back 264 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: and you look at it and you're like, this completely 265 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: changes the outlook of the game if you get that there. 266 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: Well, again, all season long, we've been talking about it 267 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: being a moment's sleep and the moment in the first 268 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: half you could get seven there instead of three. The 269 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: moment the second half of Kirk, which I'm sure we'll 270 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: see you're not going to complete every fifty yard pass. 271 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: But think about the games when you're watching NFL live 272 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: at night, the moments that have a team with the 273 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: winning score on the end are the teams that make 274 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: those plays in those moments. It's got to happen more often. 275 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: And when he didn't hit it to Kirk, you're like 276 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: man in the second half of the game, when you 277 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: feel like they've been outplayed, Brian, they had these moments 278 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: where you could have been up ten with the comfortable victory, though, 279 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: and it was so right there, but then it felt 280 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: like it was never going to be there. Right. 281 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: No, listen, you're right on and credit to I mean, 282 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: there's all kinds of conversations about the play calling this morning, 283 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: but the play calls got those two guys open, and 284 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: you're not going. 285 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: To make it express if they had those three. 286 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: Hundred percent right And listen, those guys were both open. 287 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: That's the part where you look at it. How do 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: you get miss it if you're contested down the field 289 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: and you got to make a really difficult catch. But 290 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: the reason that people are having difficult that I'm having 291 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: difficulty with those two throws is because they were both 292 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: open and that's the elite that you expect. And if 293 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: you've got that, listen the way the defense played in 294 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: the second half. You're in control the whole way and 295 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: you're not coming down to biting your nails at the end. 296 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: But I think the frustrating thing for everybody is first 297 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: three games. Overall. There were moments on either side, of course, 298 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: but overall you came away with boy didn't have a 299 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: lot of time. 300 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well he did yesterday. 301 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: Yesterday. There were a couple of plays, but overall you felt, 302 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: like I've been saying all year, quarterbacks in this league, 303 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: they're going to be under pressure at times when they 304 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: have clean that's when you got to make the play. 305 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: You got to make the play again. I hate saying 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: the word anymore. 307 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: In the moment, well, I wrote on our final analysis 308 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: this week on Jaguars dot Com. Look, if Daniel Hunter 309 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: and Will Anderson are able to run like Greg Rousseau 310 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: and Von Miller did on Monday Night Football, they're in trouble. 311 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: He was never really in trouble. There were sad there 312 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: were some moments. As John alluded to, the offensive line 313 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: played pretty. 314 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Well, which is impressive because normally we're ragging on them, 315 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: so that'll tell you that they did play well. It 316 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: wasn't really mentioned at all, at least when I thought 317 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: about it and looked back at some of these highlights. 318 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Let's look to the other side of the ball. We 319 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: saw the holding penalty in the end zone. The defense 320 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: was kind of holding it together, then that penalty, and 321 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,359 Speaker 1: then that led to Nico Collins touchdown. 322 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: Again. 323 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: It's just the little things, and it's just making mistakes 324 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: in those moments that hirshe and keeps these drives going. 325 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: The safety play has not been great this year, and 326 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson is a player for whom the Jaguars have 327 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: tremendous admiration. They believe that he can be an the 328 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: elite level player with the length and the height, the 329 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: speed and the instincts. He has not played very well 330 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: and yesterday was a great example of it. 331 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh credit the He does still play hard, yes and 332 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: he's still a little bit of a young player, so 333 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: I think that they continuing to play hard as he 334 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: gains more confidence and awareness and he'll get better. From 335 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: that big time hit late in the game, that was 336 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: a great play to not get the penalty. That was 337 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: really a big play late, so but overall noticed safty 338 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: play hasn't done what they thought it would be. 339 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead to the Jaguars other touchdowns 340 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: BTJ great catch to lead up to that catch from 341 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, who. 342 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Had a pretty good day. 343 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I think this is why gets so frustrated with Trevor, 344 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: because you're like, I know you can make that throw. 345 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: I can you make these throws? 346 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Tremdous catch from Brian Thomas Junior as well, and then 347 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: you don't get it when you need it. 348 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: It feels like it was a great throw and this 349 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: led to a touchdown, but unfortunately really the only extended 350 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: touchdown drive they had when they had an opportunity for. 351 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: I say two or three more plus a couple of 352 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: plays like that ignite your offense, right, I think you'd 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: think with three to fifty one left playing with making 354 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: some throws like these two, that you're able to make 355 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: some throws and get it first down. That's the part, 356 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: is you think that you're ready to ignite and it 357 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: just fizzles out. 358 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes, well we'll see it in a minute. 359 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about Tank Spigsby 360 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: gets that huge run, right, rips it off, almost makes 361 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: it in, and then they give the ball back to 362 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: him twice after that in that same drive which he 363 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: just ran almost sixty yards, So obviously he's tired. I 364 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: understand you want to give the ball back to him, 365 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: let him get the touchdown. But I felt the second 366 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: time on second now when they. 367 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Gave it to him, it didn't work the first time. 368 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we bring in some fresh legs something like that. 369 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I know, revision of history on Monday. 370 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: But still, well, I'll leave it with Fred Taylor, who 371 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: told us on postgame radio last night. They even him right. 372 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: And Fred's always like I could have scored on that one. 373 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: I would have scored on that one. He said, sixty yards, 374 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: I'm gassed. I need a break. Fred never admits that, right, 375 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: but yep, I need I would have given him the break. 376 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Trevor alluded to it. They've had success 377 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: before where they go quick in that situation. The defense 378 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: expects you to be trying to sve and trying to 379 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: get set. They've had success catching them on their heels. So, 380 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: as you said, Ryan, the first one you sort of got, 381 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: I thought you should have scored on the fifty eight yarder. 382 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm not a running back, but I felt like he 383 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: will probably look back at that play and think, I 384 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: just should have stuck it in on the fifty eight yarder. 385 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been leaning so far outside. That's nitpicking. Still, 386 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: get even with that. The great teams that are winning 387 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: overcome not scoring on the big play and score in 388 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: that moment. And in the NFL, you're not putting the 389 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: game away at that point. But boy, you're making a lot. 390 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: Of well, I mean the Texans didn't, right. I mean, 391 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: the Texans got the big twenty seven yard play to 392 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: Nico Collins, and then they went and put it in 393 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: the end zone the first and goal inside the five 394 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: yard line. They moved their way down when they needed it, 395 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: they got it done. That's the difference in the game. 396 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: On that same drive, Trevor going for on fourth and one, 397 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: Doug makes the call they're going to go for it 398 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: on fourth and they get the quarterback drawn and it 399 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: gets stuffed right there. 400 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Where were you on it? 401 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised I went for it on fourth down. 402 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Maybe a little surprised at what they chose to do 403 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: on it. 404 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: You know, if I. 405 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Guess if it works, then you're not surprised, then you're 406 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: happy with it. 407 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: But the photocosta, he doesn't. 408 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: You know, shove Brandon Sheriff into the gap. 409 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing to not you shove, but yeah 410 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: throw then it probably works and he walks in. So 411 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: conceptually the play probably should have worked. 412 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: I I knew Doug was gonna go for I knew 413 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: he was going to go for it right, just like 414 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: I knew two years ago he was going to go 415 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 4: for the two point conversion. He wasn't going to try 416 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: and coax his team in a losing streak to win. 417 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: He was going to go for the win. However, you know, 418 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: if you're up six, you get the ball back with 419 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: three fifty one left to play. Now you just need 420 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: to drive for a field goal, and now you make 421 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: it a nine point game. That's good strategy. Chasing points 422 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: sometimes doesn't always work. Not on the first play of 423 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. I think, with my team not playing well, 424 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: my quarterback not playing well, I kicked the field goal. 425 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: I trust my defense, which by that way had held 426 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: the Texans to what fifteen yards in the third quarter. 427 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: I'm probably playing the more conservative angle there. 428 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: I've always said I would kick in a lot of 429 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: the situations where Doug goes for it. But I sort 430 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: of all this two years ago. This is who he's 431 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: gonna be. So I'll play devil's advocate and say you're 432 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: up three, You've just had the fifty eight yard or 433 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: where for a moment for your team was like, you're 434 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: gonna clinch it. I wonder if he wasn't thinking we're 435 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: gonna be deflated either way, so we need to get 436 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 3: points here. I may have been the thinking. Again, I'm 437 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: a old school guy. I kick, but I think it 438 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: may have been his thinking. 439 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: And I do know how he is, and so I 440 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: fully expected that he was gonna do that. He wants 441 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 4: to go for the win, and if they score, everyone 442 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: celebrates him. He knows this right and they don't, so 443 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: you questioning him. That's the nature of the game. 444 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: Let's go that final drive with the Texans getting the 445 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: ball back a little less than two minutes to go, 446 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: Nico Collins that big catch we've alluded to, and then 447 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: also the Google Wallet touchdowns. It's frustrating because I felt 448 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: like when they got the ball, you were like, they're 449 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna go score a touchdown, and having that feeling having 450 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback and an offense that you trust is something 451 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: you want to have. And I just didn't feel that 452 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: when the Jaguars had it with you know what, less 453 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: than four minutes left and they just needed a first 454 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: down or two to kind of run the clock down. 455 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: But when the Texans got it, you were like, they're 456 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: going to go score right now. 457 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's a fair feeling. And I had the feeling 458 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: as well. And that's a feeling you get when you're 459 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: around a team has lost nine again. Yeah, so you 460 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: just sort of feel like, here we go again. I 461 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: think it's probably human nature that that creeps into the 462 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: players just a bit. You need a win to snap 463 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: out of it. And I wish I had more. I 464 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: keep saying that I wish I had more, But that's 465 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: how it feels. 466 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 4: So that's why I can't add anything. I except that 467 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: the defensive played had kept the Texans off the scoreboard 468 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: the entire second half, and they gave the ball back 469 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: with three point fifty one left to play to the 470 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: highest paid player. And I know people want to but 471 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: the elite franchise quarterback thinking we've done our job. Now 472 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: they've got to go back out there and stop them again. 473 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: Not sure they had enough gas. 474 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Well did it multiple times? 475 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 476 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: Like five series in the second half where you force 477 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: a punt, and I think about it. The offense had 478 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: one touchdown and a couple of misses. Ever been a 479 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: team would tell you there were ample opportunities. To think game, 480 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: the way the league is structured now, offense centric ample opportunities. 481 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: The defense did more enough to win. 482 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: They broke surf, right, You've always said that you got 483 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: to break serf here and there. They broke serve with 484 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: three fifty one left to play, and that's the moment 485 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: the light was shining, go win and they couldn't. 486 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: And there's been some like I didn't feel it during 487 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 3: the game. There's been some people talking about, well they 488 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: should have run when they had the ball with three 489 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: fifty one. They ran on first down, and I don't 490 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: think the two play calls we're you know, in this 491 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 3: day and age, you could have drained clock, but two minutes. 492 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: If they drained clock, could get the ball back with 493 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: two minutes left. It's hard to play drain clock in 494 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: that situation. In this day and age, You've got to 495 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: complete some passages to keep the chains moving and the 496 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 3: clock moving. So I don't necessarily think play call in 497 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: that situation was negligent, whatever word you're looking for. I 498 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: thought it was okay in that situation. 499 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: They just weren't efficient, right right. They didn't execute. 500 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: They did not execute. 501 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear Doug's thoughts on play calling coming up 502 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: after the break, and we'll give you our hot takes 503 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: as well. 504 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: Here on Jags. 505 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I am Jags fansf we want customized Dagmarsh furniture free 506 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: home checkout, dip about all the customizable options. That chair 507 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: is furniture for fans. 508 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: Is there any chance you take the headset over? 509 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: It's just change this thing up. 510 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: For what I thought he'd called a great game. We 511 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 6: as coaches, we can't make the We can't go out 512 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: there and make the plays. 513 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: Right. 514 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: It's a two way street. So you know, you guys 515 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: can sit here and point the finger all you want, 516 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: and that's fine. Point it right at me. I can 517 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 6: take it, Okay, I can take it. So whatever you 518 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 6: wanna ask me, say whatever, right, go ahead. 519 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: You can. 520 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: You can tell us that you're introductory news conference a 521 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: couple of years ago. 522 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: If you not if it's not working, if it's not 523 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 5: in rhythm, whether it's your plays or not that you've. 524 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: Hand off the play calling. 525 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, is it just. 526 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 6: One of those Maybe it's just a voids a confidence 527 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: you guys were cooking when you were doing it to 528 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 6: look back in twenty two. Yeah, sure, okay, I'll take 529 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: it into consideration. 530 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Dug Peterson weigh in on the play calling questions after 531 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: the game. 532 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: John, you were there. 533 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: It was a tense terse press conference. Tense terse press 534 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: conferences of what you get when you're on Ford. But look, 535 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: the play calling questions aren't gonna stop. It's the reality. 536 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Doug sees it one way, observer to see it another way. 537 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: Look, I never go to the play calling thing because 538 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: I think it's the low hanging fruit. I'll give you 539 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: the best example of it. As much as I didn't 540 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: want them to go for it on the first play 541 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: of the fourth quarter, the play call wasn't the problem there. 542 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: Brandon Sheriff got whipped fully Fundacossi whipped him, put him 543 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: in the middle and shoved it down. And then Trevor 544 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: couldn't get to the big gap because he didn't see it. 545 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: At least I think he didn't see it. 546 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: Let's think about Yeah, Christian Kirk running wide open and 547 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: Ryan Thomas running wide open. Nice call on the fifty 548 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: eight yard run. By the way, you're third and three. 549 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: If that gets stuffed, oh you're an idiot. If it works, 550 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: nobody thinks about the fact that it was a good 551 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: play call, So which is. 552 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: Why play calling is such a misnomer. 553 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: Right, but it's a topic. Oh it's good. It's not 554 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: going to not be a topic. 555 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: Well, because it's what people see, and most people don't 556 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 4: go back and watch the tape, watch the video and see, oh, well, 557 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: if he just makes this block he scores, maybe that 558 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: wasn't a bad play call. You can't expect people are 559 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: going to do that. So play calling isn't going to 560 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 4: go away. And Doug could make it go away by 561 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: saying it's finny, it's all on me, which he kind 562 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 4: of did yesterday. But this whole play calling thing has 563 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: been because he has kept it oblique. 564 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, making into a bigger thing that need to be. 565 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: I agree. 566 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: All right, we got our firehouse hot takes for you today, Brian, 567 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: what's your hot take? 568 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 5: You up? 569 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: First? 570 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: Ventrel Miller made his first NFL start yesterday, and look, 571 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: he should stay in the lineup even when Foy a 572 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: Lua Khun comes. I think he made more plays in 573 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: one game than I saw from Devin Lloyd in four games. 574 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: I get it. Devin Lloyd's the first round pick, He's 575 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 4: six three to forty. He runs, he's a good player. 576 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: But Ventrel Miller is instinctual. That's his first start, he 577 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: made eleven tackles. I would argue John, with respect to 578 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: Ray Robertson Harrison is big sack that Ventro Miller was 579 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: the best player on defense yesterday, and so he's got 580 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: to stay in the lineup. He's that talented. 581 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be hard pressed to say how he 582 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: comes out. I think he starts, you know, with Devin 583 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: Lloyd this week, and I think once foy he comes back. 584 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: You got to keep it. A troll on the field and. 585 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: A third round pick who spent his entire rookie year 586 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 4: on I ar with an achilles, and you know as 587 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: well as I'm do, there's lots of players who don't 588 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: ever recover from the achilles, and. 589 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: That's the worst injury these days than the ACLA. So 590 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: credit to him for staying with it. And as you said, 591 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: a very instinctive player and a guy who clearly, I 592 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: think it was Traves Etn after the game, talked about 593 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: how much energy they. 594 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Come to they this is a. 595 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: Kid who loves being on the field, loves being in 596 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: the moment. Keep using that word the moment, but I 597 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: think the moment for that instinctive, care free guy. Maybe 598 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: guy they need in the field right now. 599 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: By the way, a part of a draft class. Anton 600 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 4: Harrison played better yesterday. Tank Bixby had the big run. 601 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: Brenton Strange made plays, Entrel Miller made plays, Tyler Lacy 602 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: was on the field. 603 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: Brent Strange might be the best balker on the team. Yeah, absolutely, 604 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: regardless of the physician. 605 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 4: That draft class from a year agost is even though 606 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 4: it's not producing wins, it's producing some hope that this 607 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: team can get better. 608 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: I think you're seeing some good things from all of them. 609 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Keeping him healthy will be key to keeping him on 610 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: the field important going forward. John, what's your hot take 611 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: for him? 612 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's not that hot. Unfortunately, it's just about pride 613 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: now until it's not and this is sort of a 614 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: double edged sword. Yeah, I gotta play with pride. The 615 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: problem is until they win their way back into me 616 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: being able to talk about playoffs with a straight face. 617 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: All you can really talk about is, hey, guys, you 618 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: gotta play with pride. That's not where you want to 619 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: be at zero to four. So this is not necessarily 620 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: a great hot take for players fans. Look, I don't 621 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 3: want to hear it anymore about what you can do, 622 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: what you can say the season. Yeah you can save 623 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 3: the season, but until you go win a few games 624 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: and get back into this thing, then it's about pride 625 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: and how much you want it, and it will be 626 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: tested over the next couple of weeks. 627 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: You're at home, your fan base is, pride is wounded, right, 628 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: So how about giving them a chance to be proud again? 629 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: And Tom Coughlin's going into the pride of the Jaguars 630 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: on Sunday, the throwback uniforms that everybody was so excited about, 631 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 4: you know, how about giving this this crowd on Sunday 632 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: and opportunity to enjoy the moment. They haven't had much. 633 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Of that this year, if not. 634 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: And I think at a point you have to hate 635 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: losing more than yeah, we want to win, but you 636 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: need to hate where you're at right now and do 637 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: everything you can to get out of that. And I 638 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: think that's part of what we're dealing with is now. 639 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: I thought that yesterday. 640 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: I think they good energy. 641 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, sometimes it's a long season. All these games are tough. 642 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: You have to do it all the time and in 643 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: every moment, and then the percentage to start playing away, yes, 644 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: say they play with pride again to not making the 645 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: big plays and the big moments bit them and spend 646 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: that sort of season. 647 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Mine's a little more grander scheme. I think things are 648 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: at owing for right now. Changes are coming, whether we 649 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: like them or not. And I just mean that in 650 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the sense of its national football. If you don't win, 651 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: which we've heard shod Con wants to win now, there 652 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: will be changes. I don't know when they're going to 653 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: be what they're going to be exactly, but you know, 654 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: we're locked into Trevor, we're locked into certain people, but 655 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: everybody else it's like, you know, you need to kind 656 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: of go out there and earn your position, to earn 657 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: your spot, and find a way to make this work 658 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: because we're not going to see. 659 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: This same group of people again next year after this. 660 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised and I'm just guessing here. If 661 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: the play calling situation isn't ironed out this week, right, 662 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: the owner said he wanted it clearly. Doug is tired 663 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: of dealing with that question. You can make it go away, 664 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: that would be a simple one. I'm taking the play 665 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: calling back and it's now on me, so let's just 666 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: focus it all here. I think he's had a hand 667 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: in the play calling all alone. All right. The two 668 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: men are of such a close relationship that they don't 669 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: work absent of each other on the offensive side of things. 670 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: But I think you could throw this out there, right, 671 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: it's the sacrificial issue. Throw it out there, Doug says, 672 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: it's me. Stop pointing to Press. I got this. I 673 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: need Press to work with the quarterback and get him right. 674 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm not. 675 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if he wants it to go away, that's 676 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: what he does. 677 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Sure, that's something we'll keep an eye on this week. 678 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Stay with us here on jag Zam. We'll tell you 679 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: what's coming up the rest of the weeks. Before the 680 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Cold Game. 681 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Jag Zam brought to you by Baptist Health, Changing health 682 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Care for Good. 683 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: It's frustrating, it's not going our way and we weren't 684 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: able to find a way to win this game. We 685 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: had some mistakes out there. Yeah, but we just have 686 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 5: to stay together. It's gonna teach us something, it's gonna 687 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 5: prepare us for the future. And stay positive. I mean, 688 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: there were things that we did well today and we 689 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: just have to do more of it, you know. And 690 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: I don't think we need to. You don't need to 691 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 5: blow everything up and start over like we you know, 692 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: we got good players, we had, we have a good scheme. Offensively, 693 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: we had great things today and we just got to 694 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: consistently make those plays. You know. I thought we had 695 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 5: a lot of opportunities. So just keep keep working. That's 696 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: the that's the message. 697 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: To keep working this week, keep working this week. 698 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be the Colts game this weekend, John 699 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: but not Knna. Anthony Richardson looked like. 700 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: It might be Joe Flacco. 701 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's capable. And look, just to clarify here, 702 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: you can win with Trevor. They've shown that they were 703 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: nine and eighth the last two years. Could have been better, 704 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: it could have been worse. Whatever, you can win with it. 705 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: It's not I'm getting people, oh he can't do it. 706 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: Isn't that you can. He's just got to do. 707 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Look, I he is in the center of the blueprint 708 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 4: for this franchise, and and the salary cap now underscores 709 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: not more than ever. It's more important right now to 710 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: figure out how to get him back playing at a 711 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: level that you can win and that you do win. 712 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: That's the most important thing. He is this quarterback. He 713 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: is this franchisees quarterback and will be. He's got talent, 714 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: he can play. What's going on? Figure it out? You 715 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: got to get him back. 716 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: What do we have going on for the Colts game? 717 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: For Tom? 718 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: I actually sat with Tom and had a wonderful conversation 719 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: that could have gone on for hours. It's about thirty 720 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: minutes that will debut point this week, and I'm looking 721 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: forward to being on the stage with him at halftime 722 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: to introduce him. I think I introduce Shod who introduces him? 723 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: But to me who was here in the early days, 724 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: John was here too. Do have gone through all of 725 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: that with him. I'm really excited and I hope people. 726 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: Will come out absolutely a special day. 727 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: I avoid to it. Yeah, why is er? 728 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: We'll see you a little bit later on this week. 729 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: We'll look ahead later this week at the Colts game of. 730 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: What was got going on? 731 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: Bel