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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, eighties seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode four up to Daily SI Guys to production by

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into Americans share conscience. Says it is Friday,

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Speaker 1: June four. My name is Jack O'Brien aka I'm California

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Speaker 1: Pizza Kitchen Man. I hope you folks enjoy the food

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Speaker 1: bom bom bomp bomb that is courtesy of Cult Brew,

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Speaker 1: Kenny and the Beatles. Yeah, that's my and my favorite superhero,

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Speaker 1: the California Pizza Kitchen Man who was bit by radioactive

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Speaker 1: California Pizza Kitchen. Shout out to Caitlyn Durante uh and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grag. You don't start season one, night seven

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Speaker 1: of the motherfucking pot the seasons not from where you

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Speaker 1: when you cut that murder charge, but anyway, Shout out

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Speaker 1: to mean scientists on Twitter for that. It's a wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It's deep cover inspired a k It's beautiful and we

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Speaker 1: got it on just under the wire. This is the

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Speaker 1: season finale. That was a good song, was a good song,

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Speaker 1: underrated Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat once again by a correspondent, a stand up

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Speaker 1: comedian who you know as the host and head writer

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Speaker 1: of the series News Broke, the MSNBC special Red White,

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Speaker 1: and who correspondent on That Geo's Explorer, and as a

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Speaker 1: regular commentator on Young Turk's network, Thebituation Room podcast. She's

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Speaker 1: been on Love It or Leave It, and it's just

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Speaker 1: a very funny comedian Francesco. Yeah, you don't interrupt my

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Speaker 1: my intro, Miles, And this is part two of a

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Speaker 1: Francesco Fiorentini. Hi, Hi, Francesco Fiorentini. Francisco Fiorentini. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh'm good? Yeah, this is a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: part two because my fiance was on yesterday Matt Le

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Speaker 1: Matt Leave, and I know he told a lot of

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Speaker 1: just just put out all the dirty laundry, yeah, of

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Speaker 1: our perfect engagement. And I'm not going to go back

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Speaker 1: and choreographic re choreographic correctly and hire a photographer. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some reshoots, a little extra budget for

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Speaker 1: the reshoots on this one. Um, this time you're gonna

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Speaker 1: ask that he not proposed to you with a blue

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Speaker 1: raspberry ring. Pop is that correct. I really wish he

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Speaker 1: had it because it would have been far less expensive.

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Speaker 1: He sounded so stressed. Yes, O, man, I gotta, I

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Speaker 1: gotta figure out what to do with this thing. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing when you buy a ring. First of all,

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Speaker 1: don't consult sex in the city, because I know he

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Speaker 1: did that like fifteen years later. And then number two,

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Speaker 1: don't ask my brother. Don't ask the only man you

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Speaker 1: know of my fa like my brother wraps Christmas gifts

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Speaker 1: in newspaper still like at the age of thirty six,

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Speaker 1: you're heard forties forty now, like this is the kind

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Speaker 1: of like he was like, oh, so you know you

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Speaker 1: imagine the jeweler, imagine the jeweler just like the door

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Speaker 1: opens and you see matt Leeb's face just like all

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Speaker 1: dumb and in love, and you're just like, yes, buddy,

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Speaker 1: did your brother at least wrap it in the comics

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Speaker 1: section of course tasteful? It's not like, yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: the international news, you know, like drought. And I remember

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Speaker 1: like one of the first birthdays where my like you know,

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Speaker 1: because of heteronormous, my mom was wrapping the gifts when

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Speaker 1: I'll go to a birthday party, like you know, like Okay,

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Speaker 1: take your gift. This is the gift for the party. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where my mom was out of town once and my

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Speaker 1: the in the Funnies, you know, the comics, the newspaper,

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Speaker 1: and I was so bummed out. This looks like drash, Dad,

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Speaker 1: this is newspaper. He's like, it's the Funnies. Man. At

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Speaker 1: least it's not the Auto Trading section or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: I was Look, I was just so mortified at like

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Speaker 1: seven years old, pulling up to Pistol PiZZ pizza place

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Speaker 1: with this jankie as gift. But anyway, was it for

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Speaker 1: see you man, it was for Pistol Pete Marivitch. I

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Speaker 1: Where did you grow up, Arkansas? Like, oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: yeah my favorite Sivalley shotgun show because that sounds like okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: l A has been Eli's a mess. Okay in a

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Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't expecting anything remotely close to relevant

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Speaker 1: or culture be sensitive. I I really want kids to

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Speaker 1: Bowli Winkles. Um wait, where Where's Where's Rocky and Bull?

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Speaker 1: I meant like some shady ship. Francesco. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners. Oh boy, a couple of

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Speaker 1: radical in the White House, Joe Biden. He's gonna get

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Speaker 1: things done with some loving stretches strategy. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Don Jr's how he's what's on what's that site

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Speaker 1: called cameo? Cameo? Right, he's on Cameo. I'm acting like

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Speaker 1: I haven't already paid the money to get. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about why the Second Amendment is a white

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Speaker 1: talk about how nobody knows how to act parte million

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about movie theaters now being cool with you

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Speaker 1: just not wearing a mask, all of that, plenty more.

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Speaker 1: But first, Francesca, we like to ask eric guests, what

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Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? Yeah? See we do this. People forget

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Speaker 1: about that I didn't do. Yeah, but see this is

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Speaker 1: this makes it more honest because you can't even prep

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Speaker 1: You gotta just tell us what is actually in your

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Speaker 1: search history? Okay, this is and I think I deleted,

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Speaker 1: but I was just double checking that truffle butter actually

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Speaker 1: and as inappropriate and sexual and unpleasant. And then I

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Speaker 1: was like, why did Nicki Minaj have to do a

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Speaker 1: Nikki versus Cardi, but card team Cardi obviously, And I

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Speaker 1: boomer thing, which is for sure a lot of us

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Speaker 1: are like, what does this mean? Again? I thought I

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Speaker 1: knew truffle butter. You know, it's just very like, what's

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Speaker 1: truffle butter made of? Yeah, I water isn't so so yes,

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Speaker 1: I did that. I literally just looked that up last night,

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Speaker 1: a propos of nothing, just me. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I thought about it. Also, yes, it's a very dangerous

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Speaker 1: practice to have anything remotely like trouffle butter happening. Please

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stumble headlong into this. As you wanted

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Speaker 1: to know, oblivious, so off Urban Dictionary. It is a

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Speaker 1: combination of fluids from having anal sex and intercourse, referencing

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Speaker 1: to the color and texture of thick substance that forms

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Speaker 1: after having both anal sex and the direct penetrate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm a very serious correspondent. I want everyone to know

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Speaker 1: I've covered really important issues from fracking in Oklahoma to

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Speaker 1: abortion rights in El Salvador and I am employable. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but Israel is still in apartheid state. But also I

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Speaker 1: do not look up things like truffle butter and Jack.

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Speaker 1: Why did you have to read no? But you know no,

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Speaker 1: Miles is correct, Like you should be very be careful

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of pH balance in you know

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Speaker 1: delicate ecosystem. Is what I'm saying going back and forth

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Speaker 1: is the health danger? Ye? Okay, okay, Ten out of

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Speaker 1: ten doctors would say do not you don't don't, don't

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Speaker 1: not do that? Okay? What is what something you think

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Speaker 1: is overrated? Francesca um urban fictionary is overrated. I'm embracing

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Speaker 1: I am. I love that. I love that my career

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Speaker 1: is overrated. Um overrated. Chris Hemsworth's body, Uh huh, you

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Speaker 1: like why it's again too much? Too much thing, Like

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Speaker 1: it's just he's huge, And he was like he he

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Speaker 1: he wasn't flexing, And I was like, I don't even

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't even know if you can't not

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Speaker 1: How do you do anything? I believe in you know,

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Speaker 1: a healthy work I mean workout regiment, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: get right with your body, get some whatever, do you know,

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Speaker 1: look at this photo. But this is what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: the one with him and Tyke Away. Yeah, he looks

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Speaker 1: like he looks like Gaston from you know, Beauty and

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Speaker 1: the Beast. He has straight up Disney proportions, which is

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Speaker 1: it's like dudes who don't want to admit that they

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Speaker 1: like looking at that, but they're like it's very much

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Speaker 1: for men for sure. Yeah, I for men to not

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Speaker 1: But hey man, I love seeing those videos too where

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Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, to be completely defeated by a kick

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Speaker 1: flexibly too massive, and you do prefer the beasts body.

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Speaker 1: That's that's more in the beasts, the for beauty and

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Speaker 1: wondering if it's going to mean yeah, yeah beast. When

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Speaker 1: Like you know, no, other Prince really did it for me,

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Speaker 1: but he was just like damn, like his body gets

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the I am post beast body.

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Speaker 1: I don't need, you know, just just a little chisel.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to be huge. I don't really get

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Speaker 1: what you do with all that muscle mass other than

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Speaker 1: lift other weights, Like do you just is that your

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Speaker 1: if your life is just lifting heavier and heavier things

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Speaker 1: and that's your job. I get I guess I get it,

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Speaker 1: but just on a day to day level, that feels

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Speaker 1: like too much and unnecessary. Yeah. I was always a

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Speaker 1: things done with this whole obstructionist Joe mansion, Kristen's Cinema

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Speaker 1: one of them where uh, you know, try to keep

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00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: up with wherever this is headed, Peter, this is Donald

423
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: Trump Jr. I'm told that you're turning older than dirt,

424
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not that sorry about that because I'm also

425
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: told that you're a serious lib. Fortunately for you, at

426
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: least you have a family that has the sense to

427
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: not be a lib and that they're full of Trump supporters,

428
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: so that's pretty awesome. I've also heard about some of

429
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: your fetishes, so you may be as sick as some

430
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: of the people in the Biden family. That's just me.

431
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 1: Who am I to judge? But I hope you have

432
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: a good birthday regardless, and I hope your family rides

433
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: you like sea biscuit, have a good one. Man. Uh huh.

434
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: He's got that puffy look of like either a body

435
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: that's been floating face down in a pool of water

436
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: and has discovered like a week later, or somebody who's

437
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: got a three day bloat. He's definitely or a cocaine bender.

438
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: But you know, we alleged who knows if they he

439
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: has that kind of money, if he's out here begging

440
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: for five It's something else to see. Again, I really

441
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: hope this is a true indication of their financial desperation

442
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: and not just like him being like fucking man, like,

443
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: I just need money. If I can just create some

444
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: extra play money for my hunting trips, I'll just do

445
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: it here or whatever. But it's those those pauses, even

446
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: he's like, so, um, your your families are It's just

447
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a just a quality to it

448
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm quite enjoying. No, they absolutely need money.

449
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: He's wearing a Trump like hotel shirt that it's all

450
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: that's left is just the boxes and boxes of lime

451
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: green um Polo shirts that no one's gonna buy. And yeah,

452
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: I mean they're probably hauling stuff away and the on

453
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: the like on the other side of the camera. I

454
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: love this. I love the idea that this happening. I

455
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: want now, I want us to pull resources into a cameo. Obviously,

456
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: nothing that he said is his own, like our his

457
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: own words, like riding you like sea biscuit. That was

458
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: clearly something they told him to say. You could get

459
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: him to say anything, but that was like an incest

460
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: thing wasn't it. He was like, you're into weird fetishes,

461
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: and I hope your family rides you like see I

462
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: think they're saying like giving him a part time Oh okay,

463
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: I think it's incest because you know, my dad wants

464
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: to ride Ivanka like right see daughter, right? Yeah, But

465
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: it does seem like they he'll he'll say anything. It's

466
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: good to see that his his career is in such

467
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: a good place because think about the other things you

468
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: could do for five do you know what I mean?

469
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: Is there I mean, is there a a clothing deal,

470
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: a podcast deal, a book deal? Like what? There's so

471
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: many other things you could do to get that money,

472
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: and that's not there. Like this is not really a

473
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: way to connect to people either. You know it's not.

474
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: But maybe it's also like, oh I am a celebrity.

475
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: That's the other way of thinking about it is like

476
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, you think you're a celebrity. But like even

477
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I was looking into not to be back to sex

478
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: in the City, but I was looking at like how

479
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: much Christopher No charges? He's big? Mr five thousand dollars

480
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: see knows is worth? Knows is worth? Ice cube? Whoa?

481
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: You know, some people are swinging for the fences. Carrie

482
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Underwood charges a thousand and for someone who like a

483
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: family that is so griffty like them. I'm surprised they're

484
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: not going for that level because they're so shameless in

485
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, just builking their supporters for dollars that I'm

486
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: surprised it wasn't like, yeah, man, this ship is like

487
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: two grand. But I maybe because the people who already

488
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: donate to them at that level have already got some

489
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: form of a cameo for being like, hey, thanks for

490
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: being a patriot and donating all that money. You know

491
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: that they don't even they're not they're not gonna come

492
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: back for this. They're in litigation right now. Dude. They

493
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: didn't They didn't get a photo with him. They got

494
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: like maybe a cardboard cut out and like a thank

495
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: you email and then another email and then yeah, donated

496
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: five times more than they wanted to because they didn't

497
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: un check the proper boxes, and so yeah, I guess,

498
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: uh cameo. Folks don't know about that. So yeah, it's

499
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: yeah again, I'm I'm loving the desperation. I hope that

500
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: now we're slowly speaking to see that translate into like

501
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: outcomes and repercussions judicially, um so waiting for that shoe.

502
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: He uh is also like turning into Jerry Folwell Jr.

503
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Like they are becoming the same person, Like don't they

504
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: don't they look identical now, which is a weird like

505
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: person for him to hold up as like his life

506
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: goals like a disgraced son of a legend dairy person.

507
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that disgraced from a disgraced person of

508
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: a disgraced Yeah, disgraced the legend. That makes sense. It

509
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: does feel like he's also doing his a dad impression. Yeah,

510
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: he does do his dad with like a hand thing,

511
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he practices for hours in the mirror

512
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: every morning. He's like, I can't get that. That just

513
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: slight forward lean right that My dad nails, you know,

514
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: his intonation, and that just like his the way he

515
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: speaks just feels trump more trumpy than usual. He's usually

516
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm just here and I'm gonna, you know,

517
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: riff on, Mr potato Head, and I'm gonna bring jokes

518
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: that someone wrote for me, and you know, and that's

519
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: like him normally, but this felt much more like you're

520
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: a great guy, blah, blah blah. Trump will be on cameo.

521
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Mark my words, Mark my words. It is only a

522
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: matter of time. It'll be like seven thousand and ten

523
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, maybe not even, but he'll be there. That

524
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: will That's when we know, right, we're like, oh, we're there,

525
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: We're there. Everyone's doing it. So it's bad. Everyone's gotta

526
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: be there. Everyone's gonna be there. I mean yeah, because

527
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean you look at well because the other thing

528
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: that was interesting is that this conversation about the money

529
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: desperation came up in relation to the social media stuff

530
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: and like how well the blog wasn't doing and whether

531
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: or not he's actually going to try something that will work,

532
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of this the reporting was that he

533
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to lend his name to something that already existed.

534
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: But they and like they said, he had been turning

535
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: down offers, like big offers from like these conservative social

536
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: media platforms that really wanted Trump to be like their

537
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: marquee signing. And but the sort of reporting sort of

538
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: ended with like, but that could be changing as their

539
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: financial situation becomes more strained, and I'm like, oh, fuck,

540
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: just give me like some numbers here, Like I would

541
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: love to see an infograph of what we're talking here,

542
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: like what what the bills look like every day? Who

543
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: owes money? Because and then there's a ton of people

544
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: who are have been in orbit of them, who are

545
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: now in their own legal trouble and they're like, yo,

546
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: I need you to like help me too, because I'm

547
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: being investigated for a ride and with the ship so

548
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: or should I flip? Yeah, imagine the boot camp where

549
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: his dad who hates him, where Donald Trump Junior's dad

550
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: is trying to like turn him into a viable like

551
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: political successor to him, because that that has been like

552
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: rumored that like Donald Trump Jr. Was going to be

553
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: the second coming. But I I can just imagine like

554
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump like working with him on his hand gestures

555
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: to try to make him into like a clone of himself,

556
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: but he hates him so much and also probably like

557
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, is such a narcissist and like hate you know,

558
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: secretly hates himself. So it just seems like the worst

559
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: toxic environment that I wouldn't wish on my own worst enemies,

560
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: but I would definitely wish on them. Yeah, that's cocaine

561
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: face also kind of looks like I've been crying all night,

562
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't doubt that the Don Jump Jr.

563
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Has done that. And no, it is very much like

564
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: if he were ever groomed to be to run for president,

565
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: Trump would be waiting in the wings and at the

566
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: very last moment he'd be like Nana, no, no, no,

567
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm reading this comes out and he's like, I'm running again.

568
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: Like that is the level of levolence and evil and

569
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: also just like or just yeah, that's the kind of

570
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: daddy is and he will do that. There's I don't

571
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: think he's grooming anybody to be his successor. I am

572
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: if if this family doesn't fail upwards, because it's hard

573
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: to know how you can fail even farther up than

574
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: the presidency, right, but I'm still like, man, if they

575
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: actually don't are if they are not able to seal

576
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: another deal that isn't the White House, I will be

577
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: just floored. I will be It would be like the

578
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: first time a like wealthy white elitist wasn't able to

579
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: fail up And you know, oh, it'll be like NBC, which,

580
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: by the way, you should give me another job. But

581
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: like they will be there to catch the Trumps at

582
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: some point, like someone will still be there to catch

583
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: them if they can't. I think, you know that's it's

584
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: a I don't envy that position. We're like, funk, what

585
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: do we do? Weake? They'll take this shitty deal and

586
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: we'll make so much mother fucking desperate Like they're gonna

587
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: look dumb as fuck, and the ad it's it's gonna,

588
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna. I don't know what to say, but we

589
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: said black lives matter, but like, oh god, yeah, but

590
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: you know what, being in the black matters too, because

591
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: this is a capitalist corporation, baby something, What then are

592
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: we gonna do? It's yeah, it's a fucking wild ride

593
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: for them, But yeah, I think when we see Trump

594
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: on there, it'll be time to have like parties were like,

595
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: oh we're there, We're there, daddy's out here. But to

596
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: your point of like him being at the last minute

597
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: tapping himself in would just be hilarious where he's like,

598
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm like Paul Pierce, y'all thought I was done, that

599
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: came out of the locker room ready to fuck y

600
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: all up here. I am. It's fully his plan is

601
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: to my version of this is that like he's not

602
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: grooming Avanka because like she would actually be a valid,

603
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: like a viable candidate. So he's grooming like his fail

604
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: son who he then will uh, you know, torpedo and upstate.

605
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: He's like, so you can't do anything right, so I

606
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: have to do it myself. Should be more like your sister, Bly.

607
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: I like how your Trump is Alec Baldwin doing Trump.

608
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: It's it's it's more like just of energy than I think.

609
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Over the years, it's just turned into a sad energy

610
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: and then occasionally just becomes very hip hop, like definitely

611
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: someone from Yonkers who grow up with DMX. All right,

612
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about this new book it's called The Second

613
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Race and Guns and a Fairly Unequal America. That really

614
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of crystallized the conversation around the Second Amendment for

615
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: me in a way that I hadn't like fully consciously

616
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: embraced because I feel like the way the mainstream media

617
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: treats it, it's like Second Amendment conversation, the gun rights

618
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: advocate conversation. It's just like treated as a coincidence that

619
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: those people tend to also be the people who get

620
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: furious when you suggest something as simple as black lives matter.

621
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, they're just like on the same spectrum,

622
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: but they're not necessarily like fully connected to one another.

623
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: And this new book by historian Carol Anderson looks at

624
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: both the history of the Second Amendment, like when it

625
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: was first formed and why it was first formed, but

626
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: also just sort of the present moment and the the

627
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: big kind of present tense news story that she looks

628
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: at is Filando Castile, who was following the n r

629
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: A guidelines for how to inform an officer you are

630
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: legally carrying a gun like to the t like it's

631
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: there's a handbook where they tell you how to do

632
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: this in the n r A. He did that and

633
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: was shot and killed by the cop following the letter

634
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: of the law, and he was killed for it. And

635
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: this was the perfect opportunity for an organization that is

636
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: so horny for conflict and to be like victimized, to

637
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: create a martyr who they could get behind. And they

638
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: were completely silent. They wanted no part of backing Philando Castile. Meanwhile,

639
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, in the nineties the Branch Davidians were raided

640
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: by federal agents, and you know members of that cult

641
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: murdered federal agents. The n r A back to them,

642
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: you know the Ruby Ridge saying, um militia movements saying

643
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: they back people who murder federal agents when they are white.

644
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: And her argument is that this is not an accident.

645
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: The Second Amendment from the start was designed to arm

646
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: white people against potential slave uprisings. And and you know,

647
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: when they were writing the amendments, the Southern States didn't

648
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: think that the federal government would help them fight off

649
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: a slave revolt with the federal army. And so that's

650
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: why they created, at least partially why they created this

651
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Second Amendment that has the everybody should have guns and

652
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: everybody should be able to form a militia, so that

653
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: they basically had the backing of the federal government to

654
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: form uh their own military. Um. And that was like

655
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: James Madison and all the Virginians and shipped. But then

656
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you know they obviously heavily implied in that is that

657
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: it's only it only applies to white people. Um. And

658
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: throughout the history of the country, white armed rebellion has

659
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: been treated with a slap on the wrist like the

660
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: Whiskey rebellion, while black armed rebellion or self defense has

661
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: been treated with terror and state sanctioned murder. Or dropping

662
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: bombs on the whole neighborhood. Yeah, that's she didn't talk

663
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: about this in the interview that I listened to, but

664
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: the details of the Tulsa race mask her. The entire

665
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: thing kicked off when black residents of Tulsa showed up

666
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: at a prison with guns to protect a teenager from

667
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: a lynch mob, and a shot was fired. Nobody knows

668
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: by who, but the very idea of a black person

669
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: firing a shot stirred the mob to the organized and

670
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: systematic and genocidal violence that they enacted like the next morning.

671
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because, like you know, Jim Crow was

672
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: established soon after the end of the Civil War, I mean,

673
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: the idea of segregation in a two tiered system, you know,

674
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the failed reconstruction and all that. Then we have a

675
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: hundred more years of Jim Crow. And you wonder why, like,

676
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: like our country is so racist, why didn't they just

677
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: amend the Second Amendment, Like you would expect them to

678
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: either rein in or amend or change the Second Amendment

679
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: or just eliminate it altogether, because oh my god, what

680
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: if black people got weapons, you know, just to cover

681
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: their asses. But instead it was like now, they'll just

682
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: let everyone fight one another, and we're not going to

683
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: stop white mobs and everyone can defend themselves except for

684
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Speaker 1: if you're black. This this book sounds amazing, and I'm

685
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: sure she goes into the Black Panthers and of course, yeah, yeah, totally,

686
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: she goes deep into that and how their whole stated

687
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: purpose was arming themselves so that they could police the police,

688
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: because shockingly, the police state sanctioned murder of black people

689
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: goes back throughout history to when the police were founded

690
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: as like slave patrols, and the way that they treated

691
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: that was by execute woting their leaders and killing people

692
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: and arresting people. I mean, there's so many books like

693
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: this about so many specific things that just like essentially

694
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: boiled down to like some big American idea with an

695
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: asterisk next to it, that's the terms and conditions apply, right,

696
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: just so you know, like if for to some people,

697
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, to even look at like, yeah, it's your point, Francisco,

698
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: like you think if they could take it off the

699
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: table at one god damn, black people won't have guns.

700
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about that. Ship. But there's

701
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: something about the racism in this country that's so shortsighted

702
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: and just reactionary without like really considering it, and then

703
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: like down the road and be like, oh yeah, what

704
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: was that about. Wait that was race. Oh yeah, we

705
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: didn't look. It's it's been so many years now and

706
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: it's so ingrained in the culture and we're not really

707
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: interested in again parsing through that and understanding the motivations

708
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: behind having amendments like this or the perceived rights of

709
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: things like this. But yeah, it's just it's yeah, even liberals,

710
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: like you're saying Jack initially that you know, they consider

711
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: this untouchable, like well, you know, in Second Amendment rights people,

712
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's just it's seen as such

713
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: a quote unquote cultural almost religious, almost put in the

714
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: same category, you know, as someone who's pro life on

715
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: religious grounds, and that's obviously a separate bullshit issue, um,

716
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: but like this, this sort of scene as that is

717
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: super untouchable because liberals also planned to the idea that

718
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: our founding fathers were good and that they were not racist,

719
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: and yeah, maybe they owned slaves, but they were good

720
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: people and everybody owned slaves and that's exactly what they

721
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: took care of. But it's like no, and it's Okay,

722
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: we're just we're given speaking of you guys asked about

723
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: myths on this show all the time, and you know,

724
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: the founding myth that like this country is was founded

725
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: by good people and on good terms. It's like, no,

726
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: we have to We're told so many myths that uphold that,

727
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: and it feels, it does feel scary to unravel and

728
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: begin to unravel those myths we're told. You know, Polka

729
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: Hunt is totally consented to being John Smith child brat,

730
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of crap that like, but it's

731
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: okay if we can replace it with like new ideas

732
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: and we can replace it with like better aspirations, you

733
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think, you know, Obama had

734
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: words the best words, Uh, he really did, and like

735
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I think he began to carve out and I wish

736
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: we could have someone who has actually made good on

737
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: his promises, you know, to carve out this idea that

738
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: we're still constructing this American dream. And it is why

739
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot of civil rights organizers and activists call for

740
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: what they they say they name a third reconstruction, the

741
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: second reconstruction being the civil rights movement, the first reconstruction

742
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: being a failed attempt but you know, of of equality,

743
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: and we still have to strive for that. But and

744
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: it's okay, we can let go of these old myths,

745
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: but not if liberals keep on conflating this ship, which

746
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: is so clearly racist, with some kind of religious or

747
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: foul additional untouchable principle of American nous that we can't

748
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: actually reform. Yeah, and I think it's and then I

749
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: think more people have to begin to see that unwillingness

750
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: as like an absolute red line in terms of not

751
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: wanting to vote for someone to support someone like that,

752
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: because you're like, we need representatives who are gonna look

753
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: with a sober eye at our history, see where we

754
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: came from, to understand where we need to go. Because

755
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: if you're already playing with this like obscure, oh, sanitized version,

756
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: you could never solve a problem. And it's like, looking

757
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: at you have a fucking X ray and ship and

758
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: it's like some crayon drawing and you're like, yeah, it

759
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: looks like that one red spot on the bone should go.

760
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: And you're like, I wish this were a real X

761
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: ray so you could actually see what you're looking at

762
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: inside my chest where it is specifically what Organs. It's

763
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: damaging because this other version of being like yeah, this bad,

764
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: we should cut it out isn't going to get to

765
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: the point and isn't going to create the sort of

766
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: forward momentum in progress that we're seeking. And yeah, it's

767
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: it's it is a hard thing, and we do need

768
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: to keep looking at it. To your point of saying like, yeah,

769
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: we don't have to just talk about how fucked up

770
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: everything is. You can pivot to that and say, yeah,

771
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: that was the world as it was, and this is

772
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: the world as it should be. And these are the

773
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: people who were moving to try and take our country

774
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: and our society to the world as it should be.

775
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: And this is what we're still building on. See, we

776
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: want to build on this momentum rather than like yeah,

777
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: thanks John Adams, sick bro, and then just leaving it there. Yeah,

778
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: this argument and this kind of connecting of the Second

779
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: Amendment to systemic white supremacy, just the anger and vitriol

780
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: and fear tied up in the Second Amendment argument and

781
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: guns rights people never fully made sense to me. It

782
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: was always I was always picturing when they said, like

783
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna come for our guns, and like that I

784
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: need my guns to like protect my family. They always

785
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: talk about like the government coming for your guns, and

786
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: it's like, what are you talking about, Like that's not

787
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: even a thing that we have in our history. But

788
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: I think when you connect it to the white supremacy,

789
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, we've talked before on the

790
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: show about the fact that they know white supremacy is

791
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: a lie. Like on some level, they know that they

792
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: know they live on a graveyard of horrific abuses that

793
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: propped them up to wherever they exist, and that black

794
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Americans have every right to demand retribution, and they know

795
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: that this is this lie that every American has the

796
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: right to own guns is a massive advantage they have,

797
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: and that's why they're obsessed with stories about how crime

798
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: ridden cities are so that they can like justify their fear.

799
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: Like when when you ask people who watch Fox News

800
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: what they think a city is, like, it's it's so

801
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: outside the bounds of reality. They think it's odds that

802
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: HBO show, yes, they did, playing out in a Starbucks.

803
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: That's why, and that's why they're so outraged anytime anyone

804
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: criticizes police violence. But it's why they are so like

805
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: there's all that fear, all those lies, all that hatred,

806
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: like holding the idea of white supremacy in their mind

807
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: along with some part of them that has seen that

808
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: that ship is not true. Like then they're trying to

809
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: hold those together, and that creates cognitive dissonance, It creates angry,

810
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: it creates fear, and it just really the the image.

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Speaker 1: As I was like kind of listening to her interview

812
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: with Terry Gross's substitute teacher, I forget that David David

813
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: beyond Something's like Terry Gross's sub and then like reading

814
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: up on this book, the thing that kept hopping into

815
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: my head is that suburban St. Louis couple who when

816
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter protesters were walking past their home, they

817
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: stood on their front lawn holding their guns and like

818
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: waving them at them, like kind of waving their right

819
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: to own guns as a privilege in the face of

820
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: black protesters who would be killed on site for holding

821
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: guns that open like just being like, this is our advantage.

822
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: Fuck you like that. That is her whole argument really

823
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: kind of ties a lot of things together for me. Yeah,

824
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: and go beyond that. I mean, the entire Trump presidency

825
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: is an emblem, an homage to white supremacy, to the

826
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: idea that if you're rich and white enough and a dude,

827
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: you can get away with anything. Look at January six.

828
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I always talk about this. I'm just like, man, I'm

829
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: Marshawn Washington. Many times I would be murdered. Just how

830
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: close would I have gotten to breaking a window the

831
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: Capitol steps had we been you know, work like protesting

832
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: a war, protesting the International Monetary Fund, protesting police murder

833
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: like or anything. It's just so like when we I

834
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: feel like, as a white person watching the January six,

835
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: like every white person, I don't know, I am half white,

836
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: and I so I kind of understand this, but like

837
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: must have been looking at and being like, man, white

838
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: privilege really is kind of a thing like looking at

839
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: because you know, people of color in this country where

840
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: like white privilege is absolutely look at that. Look at that, Yeah,

841
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: look at the way there's no accountability for that. A

842
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: few months later, absolutely and so disheartening to witness too

843
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: as a black person and Asian person living in this

844
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: country and saying, see, they can fucking go and do

845
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: that because they're upset that Trump isn't president. Meanwhile, we're

846
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: looking at real fucked up outcomes for unarmed people, and

847
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's like everybody knows. I'm like, no, it's

848
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: foolish enough to come armed to something like that. As

849
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: a person class, the game is just completely different, and

850
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: the sad thing is too like on the on the

851
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: face of it, in history, marginalized people have more of

852
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: a reason to be like, no, I need these guns, man.

853
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen what they Have you seen what they

854
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: do to us? Have you seen what they do to us? Oh?

855
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Hell no? And how are you gonna how are we

856
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna move forward at all? When we're just kind of

857
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: looking at these small issue or not that this is

858
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: a small issue, but we're not really looking at changing

859
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: real lived outcomes for people and just thinking like, well,

860
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: maybe if the guns are gone, that could be something. No,

861
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: how about you give people support, how about you give

862
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: them options? How about you give them upboard mobility, Because

863
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people would prefer that than to live

864
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: in a you know, in a cycle of fear and

865
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: violence and anger, uh, and would much rather be in

866
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: a place of abundance on some level or just to

867
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: have some relief. That's why it's so upsetting. Things, you know,

868
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: instances like Philando castile, because you're absolutely right that unarmed

869
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: black people get gunned down all the time, and so

870
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: what is to whine not just be armed? They get

871
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: gunned down by vigilantes, um self proclaimed vigilantes. Now I'm

872
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: blinking on his name. But the gentleman who was killed,

873
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: the young kid who was killed last year, no right before,

874
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: um George Floyd u ahmat auvery yeah, I'm at auby

875
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: and former police officers and then most recently another young

876
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: But it's like every time the conversation if someone had

877
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: a gun, the internet conversation is, oh, but he had

878
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: a gun, but he had a gun. Oh, his hands

879
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: were up, but he had a gun. Then kill him

880
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: on site. That's not allowed, depending again, terms and conditions apply.

881
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: Like it's the number one tool for white supremacy, is

882
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: this lie and being able to just enforce this lie

883
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: within sort of the mainstream culture that you know, well,

884
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: really only white people are allowed to have guns, like

885
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: and if somebody who isn't white has a gun, the

886
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: police will murder them on site like that. That's unbelievable.

887
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: And like the fact that it's not set out loud

888
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: like constantly like that, that is the it's a shocking,

889
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: like dystopian reality that I just feel like people don't

890
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: say Asian American gun ownership soaring through the roof. I

891
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: do believe in gun control except for Asian elders. I

892
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: think we should arm Asian aunties and uncles with a

893
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: R fifteen. That's it. They're the only ones police no guns.

894
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: Everyone else no guns. But Asian aunties and uncles, we

895
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: arm them. They patrol. Yeah, and they tell you obviously,

896
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: like how to choose a good watermelon, and you know,

897
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: how to stay out, how to stay out of the sun.

898
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: Very very disciplined. On the triggers, that's a bust. They're

899
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: going for anything. They're like, you know, I'm gonna hit

900
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: you with it real quick first. Yeah, oh no, no,

901
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna it's not loaded. I will smack you

902
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: over the head with this stuff. It's a big gas bat.

903
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: That's who I believe in army. I'm with their little baskets.

904
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: They can carry them in the little front portion of it.

905
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm about that. Here we go, all right, let's take

906
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

907
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: and we touched on Naomi Osaka dropping from the French

908
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Open earlier this week and just kind of connecting it

909
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: to the overall movement in the culture far too late

910
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: and far too little. But to be like, wait, are

911
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: athletes humans? Like where when labor When somebody spit on

912
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: Trey Young like and dumped popcorn on an injured Russell

913
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: Westbrook like that that was even treated as a thing.

914
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: It seems kind of new. But the Naomi Osaka being

915
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: the best and most famous athlete who is like kind

916
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: of breaking new ground and just being like, I need

917
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: to I need to take care of my mental health. Yeah.

918
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Well the progression of things is so interesting, right because

919
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: the first she was like, look, just so you know,

920
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: next week when the tournament starts, I'm not gonna be

921
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: to impress um. I suffer from depression and I get

922
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: terrible anxiety before press conferences. And I'm I'm trying to,

923
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, being a peak mental shape for a fucking

924
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: Grand Slam tennis tournament because that's what I do as

925
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: I do my ship on the court. I don't talk

926
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: to fucking somebody from NBC Sports. I serve. I hit aces, okay,

927
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I hit the backhand and forehand. I'm not here to

928
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: fucking give you a hot take on some other ship,

929
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: and I hate that that's what happens in these press conferences.

930
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: They've meant they take me out of my zone and

931
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be very conscious of that. And first

932
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: she was like, y'all eat the fine. I know they're

933
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna find me because I'm these are mandatory appearances at

934
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: these press conferences. Then the tournament came back and said, okay,

935
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: but here's the deal, like, if you don't comply, this

936
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: could lead to suspensions from future tournaments, um and really

937
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: funck your career up. So she was essentially forced to

938
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: pick between her mental health and winning the French Open,

939
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: and she picked the former. She said, you know what

940
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm picking me every fucking time. And she

941
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: talked about how again she was struggling with depression. The

942
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: director of the French Open tournament wished her, like quote

943
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: a speedy recovery because she says, you're gonna take some

944
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: time because we all know, you know, anxiety and depression.

945
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: That's just you just do a little bit of stretching

946
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: and put some ice on it and then you'll get

947
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: over that ship. That's how it works. Like and this

948
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: idea that they are so disconnected from the humanity of it.

949
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I think kicked off many discussions like from what even

950
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: means from a labor perspective, right, like the conditions that

951
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: you're working under. Do you need to subject yourself to

952
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: this if you say, my primary function is to play

953
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: the tennis and that's how y'all make all your sponsorship money,

954
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: it's not because I talk at these press conferences, or

955
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: even just how sports journalism works, where you know, we're

956
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: in an age now where you're incentivized to ask like

957
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: provocative questions, to create some controversy and to to monetize

958
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: that because that's sort of how they game is set up.

959
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: So you know, people saying, oh, she's a millionaire, just

960
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: get on with it, become the funk on, you know

961
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like this is she's a human being.

962
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: And anyone who saw that Australian Open, that first Grand

963
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Slam she won against Serena Williams, that was an absolute

964
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: shit show for her. It was disgraceful how she was treated,

965
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: the ship that she went through. She was in tears

966
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: winning her first Grand Slam because all of the energy

967
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: went towards some other thing. I mean, it's it's a

968
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: terrible position to be in, but I think yeah to

969
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: to hear. Like, the other thing that's a little bit

970
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: disheartening is the lack of support from like other tennis players.

971
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: I know, like the Williams sisters have been pretty clear

972
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: because that there was that clip that's been going around

973
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: and I think it was a young Serena being interviewed

974
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: and this like when she was like, you know, maybe

975
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: thirteen or twelve, and this journalist was like, so you're

976
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: pretty confident that you can win. She's like, yeah, I

977
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: think I can beat anyone. And he's like, whoa, So

978
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: you're really confident. She's like yeah. He's like what what

979
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: makes you so confident? And her dad's like, Okay, this

980
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: ship is over. I told you you're not doing this

981
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: to my daughter. Like, if she says she's sucking confident,

982
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: let her fucking say that she's a fucking athlete and

983
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: if that's what she has to do to get in

984
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: the zone to perform, how dare you fucking try and

985
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: take her out of it? This was Serena's that sorry,

986
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: it was one of the I forget which sister was specific,

987
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: but is one of the Williams sisters and their father

988
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: completely interrupted the interview when they began to undermine their

989
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: confidence as a child. And you realize, like when you

990
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: see things like this, you people forget it's not just

991
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: about like, oh, they played tennis for a living, Okay,

992
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 1: to play at that level, It's it's a whole other

993
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: it's a whole other existence. It's very much a mind game.

994
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not that into sport, and uh, I

995
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: don't know that much, but you know, I generally understand

996
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: them to be team exercises. In large part. Tennis is

997
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: so in your head. It is one and fifty percent

998
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: in your mind and in your head. So like if

999
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna need some like space and mental clarity and

1000
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: meant and just like distance and not having to talk

1001
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: to press, it's gonna be in tennis. One. The second thing,

1002
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: like I she gives me hope, like Naomi Alsaka gives

1003
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: me hope for the future, because this is that gen

1004
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Z energy of like, no, I'm just kind of not

1005
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: going to take the bullshit and I'm gonna I'm gonna

1006
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: know my own worth, I'm gonna know my own mental health.

1007
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not being clearly driven into the ground by a parent,

1008
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: which I think so many athletes are and then no,

1009
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: you're just not going to own this part of me.

1010
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. And like the most power

1011
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: move in the fact that like a twenty four year

1012
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: old woman can pull this power move at the French

1013
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: Open is just well, it's so beautiful and it really

1014
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: does give me hope for for these generations. And it's

1015
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: also interesting to see because you know, the backlash from

1016
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: this is sort of to your point, is like it's

1017
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: they're addressing that there's an imbalance of power by her

1018
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, and they don't like that someone could

1019
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: have that kind of agency and like thwart the traditions

1020
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: of this tournament. And I think it's it's it's the

1021
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: same thing like this this remember when they were they

1022
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: were coming at the Serena Williams Cats Suit the French Open.

1023
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They have a real fucked

1024
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: up track record of doing anything that is remotely progressive

1025
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: or open to letting people do what they want for

1026
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: their mental health or letting a woman of color do

1027
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: what she needs to because remember she was wearing what

1028
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: wasn't the cats suit for like her circulation. It wasn't

1029
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: like because she was like I'm out here to do

1030
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: this like a stunt fucking fashion show. She's like, this

1031
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: is actually helping me physically. I'm not what if it

1032
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: was anyway, you know, yeah, but whatever. I think that's

1033
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: what they were first trying to say, and it was

1034
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: just you know, it's just a completely uh you see

1035
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: this sort of the the powers that be sort of

1036
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: get this smack in the face, like how what they

1037
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: said no to us? But we're but we're this tournament

1038
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: and yeah. Again, I hope to see more tennis players

1039
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: back her, because that's what they need to really start

1040
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: to get. If they're going to get these tournaments to bend,

1041
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: they need a they need a like a plurality of

1042
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: players to say no no. I kind of agree with this,

1043
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: um Like, if I didn't have to do press conferences,

1044
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I understand the nature of doing

1045
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: press and things like that. So maybe we can find

1046
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: some happy medium where I'm a little bit more in

1047
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: control and I can engage with it in a way

1048
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: that is absolutely comfortable for me and still takes into

1049
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: consideration my performance. But to say for people to kind

1050
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: of sit silently it is kind of a bummer because

1051
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: this could this could be a really pivotal moment to

1052
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: really gain more and more momentum. Yeah, the media has

1053
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: so much power over these athletes because they can start

1054
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: a story about the fucking cat suit or whatever they can.

1055
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: They can turn that into a controversy that becomes a

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Speaker 1: distraction that affects their ability to play, that affects their

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Speaker 1: the trajectory of their career, and then they're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Serena didn't have at this tournament and show like that.

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Speaker 1: So the way that they are acting in response to

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Speaker 1: how do you guys deal with it? Like basically singling

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Speaker 1: her out and then asking the people who didn't drop out,

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Speaker 1: so why didn't you drop out? You love us right

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Speaker 1: like this is and Venus Williams response revealed the amount

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Speaker 1: of like disdain bordering on hatred that like is the

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Speaker 1: status quo of like that relationship. They were like, so,

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Speaker 1: how do you cope with the press? And she said,

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Speaker 1: for me, personally, how I cope how I deal with

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Speaker 1: it is that I know every single person asking me

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Speaker 1: a question can't play as well as I can and

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Speaker 1: never will. So no matter what you say, or what

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Speaker 1: you write, you'll never light a candle to me. And

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Speaker 1: that's how I deal with it. But each person deals

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Speaker 1: with it differently. It's just like fuck all of you.

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Speaker 1: You are like just there to make their lives complicated

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Speaker 1: and difficult and then like to have an ego about

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Speaker 1: it and to like be asking follow up questions about

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Speaker 1: like what what's her neal? Guys, everyone should watch the

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Speaker 1: Maradonna documentary on HBO. Um I lived in Argentina for

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Speaker 1: a while. I love Maradonna and the press utterly fucked

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Speaker 1: had the best lines coming back at the media. Always

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Speaker 1: he would he would say, like, which means your dick

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Speaker 1: is on the inside, which could potentially be problematic for

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Speaker 1: other reasons, but you know he was that's like what

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Speaker 1: he would say to their faces, you know, to the

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Speaker 1: media's faces, and like, you know, his fans have like

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Speaker 1: a whole song about like, you know, news media. They

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Speaker 1: just he hated them and it was so funny. And

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Speaker 1: it only makes it worse, obviously, because the way they

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Speaker 1: cover you only makes it worse. And same with politicians,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like not to say Naomi,

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Speaker 1: I mean I really do like Naomi Osaka, but the

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Speaker 1: she's the same as Bernie Sanders and this is one

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But like Bernie is like this most zero

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Speaker 1: glad handy guy. He's not gonna like give you the

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Speaker 1: fluff piece, the palace intrigue, the blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: You know, and the media hates him also. He wants

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Speaker 1: to you know, break up giant corporations and take away

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Speaker 1: all of their donors, but and their funders, which might

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Speaker 1: have had something to do with it too. But it's

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Speaker 1: just so funny when you see people who don't play

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Speaker 1: the media game. They play their game, and they do

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Speaker 1: it very very very well. Just how um yeah, how

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Speaker 1: fragile and how quickly that they can turn on you.

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Speaker 1: And I hope this is a turning point and so

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Speaker 1: they don't destroy a young woman's career and life like

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Speaker 1: they have so many athletes and so many people in

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Speaker 1: the public eye. Yeah, I think just whenever, even like

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Speaker 1: celebrities who don't play into the tabloid ship, they love

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Speaker 1: to fucking then be like now, fuck it, we'll do

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Speaker 1: whatever the funk we want now person. If they don't

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Speaker 1: want to fucking pose and they want to keep their

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Speaker 1: life fucking private, then we'll fucking do whatever the fun

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Speaker 1: we can to create pain and something. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: really odd relationship. And even with that Venus Williams quote,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't arrive there because you were there,

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Speaker 1: like that day one that always you've been through so

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Speaker 1: much ship already and you've already had especially when she

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Speaker 1: came out before Serena and Serena became like the IT

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Speaker 1: player and everyone's like, what happened to Vena? You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Can you imagine the fucking seth like

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Speaker 1: having to read all these stories like is Venus Williams

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Speaker 1: even relevant or whatever? Yes, she is, and that you

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Speaker 1: have she's just number two, like when you're just pitting

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Speaker 1: her against her sister, like yeah, and like developing having

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Speaker 1: to develop this skin already from you know, having to

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Speaker 1: already operate an environment where they're trying to create all

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Speaker 1: these wild narratives to get to whether it's to funk

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Speaker 1: with you or just because it's easier, just great commentary

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Speaker 1: around it. And I think, yeah, it's I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see if there's any kind of evolution in like sports journalism,

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Speaker 1: especially like as it just pertains to this to see

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Speaker 1: if there is a way where they can feel like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we can we we can find a way to work

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Speaker 1: with this. I don't know if they can, and been

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Speaker 1: considering the you know, sympathy that we've seen on display

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Speaker 1: from the organizers of the French Open. I don't know,

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, worth looking into. I just like, this is

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01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: no disrespect to any player we've discussed yet. But again,

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Speaker 1: as someone who doesn't follow that much sports, but when

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Speaker 1: I hear interviews with athletes, I'm always like, this is

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Speaker 1: boring and bad and like, how is it you know,

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: to win? Off? All good? You know, it's really good. Yeah,

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01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: how is it to lose? You know, we tried our

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Speaker 1: best out there. Anyway, leave me a lot, like what

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Speaker 1: are you getting? These are not this is not what

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Speaker 1: they do. By the smartest thing they can do is

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: give the most boring answers possible, which makes them look

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: like an idiot, which again is like it's a situation

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 1: for athletes, Like it's like, no, they very well could

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01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: be very interesting, intelligent people who have something interesting to say.

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 1: That ship will come out in their book many years

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Speaker 1: after they retire because they're not gonna fucking give you

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Speaker 1: what you want. Like no, and you but you can't

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01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: be too interesting. Just give them a little something, but

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: not too interesting because you have If you have big opinions,

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01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna they will clobber you for that. We have

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: a little bit to say, if you have any shade

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Speaker 1: to throw, if you have any critique, don't have a critique.

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Speaker 1: Never have a critique. Which is so funny because the

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Speaker 1: sports reporters and analysts, that's all they do is critique. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let them do it, that's what they do. Yeah, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the same thing. Like Marshawn Lynch was just

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Speaker 1: kind of like he had to adopt a mindset. He's like,

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Speaker 1: y'all come here and I'll fulfill the thing. But he

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01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: was very unequivalental and being like when I when I

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Speaker 1: leave here, I don't go into looking at a Twitter

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Speaker 1: or the the news to see what y'all are saying

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01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: about me. I go and I live my life at

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Speaker 1: home with the people that know me, that know who

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Speaker 1: I am, and I don't really have to explain ship

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Speaker 1: to them because they know me and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you guys want me to say, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say it. I'm just gonna be here to whatever,

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Speaker 1: give whatever answer I want to give. But that's my

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Speaker 1: proget I showed you what I wanted to say, was

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Speaker 1: what I showed you out there on the field or

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Speaker 1: the I don't know, they were talking about the field, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Francesca. It has been such a pleasure having

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Speaker 1: you as always. Um Where can people find you and

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Speaker 1: follow you? Oh? Hey, watch or listen to the Bituation

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Speaker 1: Room podcast We stream live every Sunday five eight Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Naya on on this Sunday and yeah, follow me at

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Speaker 1: franci Fio on Twitter and Instagram. Yeah yeah. And is

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Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? I really love This was by

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Speaker 1: Jake Flores, comedian who in terms of the Ellie Kemper stuff,

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Speaker 1: he writes, I have decided to address the recent revelation

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Speaker 1: that I was in a neo fascist Kincana. Hey we've

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Speaker 1: all been there. Yeah, ship miles. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me, Twitter, Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray. Also check out the other podcast,

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Speaker 1: but you check out of Twitch dot tv Slash four

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Speaker 1: two zero Day Fiance. Um, let's see a couple tweets.

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Speaker 1: I'll like, oh, there was one, Jack, I know you

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Speaker 1: leg first, I'm gonna say it bullshit. This is from

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Speaker 1: at Jay Zucks Trash Jones tweeting she'll text you back, man,

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Speaker 1: friend with the caption yikes, don't worry. And then um,

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Speaker 1: another one is from Ellie Creman Doll and my saying

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Speaker 1: that Wright's a crime and doll you know'say Cremen doll

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Speaker 1: um Eli Creman doll at Eli Cremendal tweets if God

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Speaker 1: hates queers, how come we don't have to pretend to come?

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Speaker 1: And that's a very good question. Unless when at Curtis Underscore,

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Speaker 1: cook says, because all these Spotify posts have been coming

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Speaker 1: out like where they're like, oh this is your moment,

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Speaker 1: Curtis Cooks says, Spotify is begging you all to go

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Speaker 1: to therapy. And that was a very interesting thing to

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Speaker 1: to read. Good analysis you can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore, O'Brien a couple tweets. I've been enjoying

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Speaker 1: tiff at It's me your mom tweeted pintrist girls be

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Speaker 1: like I'm getting married in a barn, but the barn

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Speaker 1: is made of reclaimed barnwood from a different barn um.

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Speaker 1: The uh cancel of Landsbury tweeted all people in media

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Speaker 1: do is announced their leaving jobs at websites so sad

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Speaker 1: uh and whitmer to was tweeted, why is every person

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Speaker 1: in a small town wearing a knee brace? Great question?

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Speaker 1: Oh and finally at Sarah Hog tweeted, cut my sweats

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Speaker 1: in two pieces. These are my oh merg shorts or

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Speaker 1: summer shorts actually because anyways, you can find me at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O Brian. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily

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Speaker 1: zeke guys dot com, where post our episodes and our

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Speaker 1: footnotes where we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what is today's recommendation?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? I was just because that Spotify thing where

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Speaker 1: it is telling you like your like, this is your vibes,

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Speaker 1: and it was all over the place. It was like

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Speaker 1: Schoolboy que Pote and the Gap Band were like some

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Speaker 1: of my artists. I'll just saying, you know what, let's

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Speaker 1: let's let people know if you don't look for all

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Speaker 1: the young people out there, you gotta get into the

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Speaker 1: Gap Band. Okay, if you like Uncle Charlie, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, you gotta funk with the Gap Band.

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Speaker 1: You might probably know like you dropped a bomb on

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Speaker 1: me and should like that. But obviously they're big it outstanding.

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Speaker 1: It's a song that you probably have heard, but you

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Speaker 1: really need to play and it's a wonderful thing to

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Speaker 1: have played through the house throughout the weekend. So you

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Speaker 1: know what, this is outstanding by the Gap Band. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go check it out. The Daily Zeka is a production

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Speaker 1: this stuff that I have to say over and over again.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this morning. We're back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk

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