1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the countdown to a government shut down. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: With less than twenty four hours until the deadline, Congressional 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: leaders remain far apart. After meeting with President Donald Trump 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: at the White House. Democrats are calling for an extension 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: of healthcare subsidies and a stopgap spending bill, and to 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: reverse the Medicaid cuts that are in the President's tax law. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: Vice President jd Vance says Democrats need to back down. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: Let's do it in the context of an open government 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 4: that's providing essential services to the American people. That's all 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: that we're proposing to do, and the fact that they 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: refuse to do that shows how unreasonable their position is. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 4: I think we're headed to a shutdown because the Democrats 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: won't do the. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: Right thing, and like us, President jd Vance, Senate Minority 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Leader Chuck Schumer's placing blame on the other party. 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 5: We laid out to the President some of the consequences 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 5: of what's happening in healthcare, and by his face and 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: by the way he looked I think he heard about 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 5: them for the first time, and so he seemed to 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: for the first time, understand the magnitude of this crisis. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 5: And we hope he'll talk to the Republican leaders now. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Later on Capitol Hill, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer suggested 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: Democrats could budge on some priorities, like extending. 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 6: Subsidies for Affordable Care Act. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: Premiums and stopping the White House from using fast track 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: measures to send federal funds. But Schumer says Democrats won't 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: pass a stop gap without acting on Obamacare credits. He 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: says millions of Americans are about to get notices of 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: massive premium increases. Government funding without a deal is set 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: to expire at one minute after midnight tonight. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Well Nathan. Federal agencies are preparing for a possible government shutdown, 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: with detailed plans that call for temporary furloughs but not 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: permanent mass firings. The White House press departments to consider 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: mass layoffs and their contingency planning. At least eight cabinet 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: departments that represent more than two thirds of the federal 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: workforce are calling for more than four hundred thousand employees 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: to be sent home as non essential, but those plans 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: contain only one reference to permanent staff reductions and Karen. 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: As the President negotiates on a possible shutdown, he is 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: also focusing on a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Both 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: the President and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin natanyahuo say they 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: have agreed to a twenty point plan to end the 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: war in Gaza. 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 6: Bloomberg's Amy Morris reports from Washington. 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 7: President Trump says his administration's twenty point plan will end 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 7: the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, and Israeli 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 7: Prime Minister Benjamin Natanyahu has already agreed to it. 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 8: You also want to thank Prime Minister Nataniell for agreeing 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 8: to the plan and for trusting that if we work together, 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 8: we can bring an end to the death and destruction 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 8: that we've seen for so many years, decades, even cinceuries. 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 7: Natagnyah, who says the deal will be done one way 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 7: or another. 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 9: This could be done the easy way, or it can 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 9: be done the hard way, but it will now. 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 7: If both parties accept this twenty point plan, it would 60 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 7: end the conflict immediately and all hostages, living and dead 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 7: will be returned. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Amy Thank You. Also happening around the nation's capital, President 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Haigseth will address US military 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: officials in person and a marine base in Quantago, Virginia today. 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Last week, Heygseth's summon top military commanders around the world 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: to the base for the meeting. Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson says 67 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: security is top of mind. 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 10: The fact that hundreds of general officers, including one stars, 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 10: two stars, three stars, four stars, and there enlisted day's 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 10: were coming means that there was already security in place. 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson and Washington. A Pentagon spokesman did not 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: provide a reason for the meeting or say what Hegseeth 73 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: plan to tell the high ranking officials. 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: We've got some developments in the trade front as well, Karen. 75 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: President Trump has ordered ten percent tariffs on imports of softwood, timber, 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: and lumber, and a twenty five percent duty on kitchen cabinets, vanities, 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: and the polstered furniture. We get more from Bloomberg's Bilage Pens. 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 11: We saw the same thing in the pharma industry, and 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 11: this follows an investigation by the US government into the 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 11: market conditions, which means that this is a sectoral tariff. 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 11: The country that is facing the biggest impact from this 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 11: is Canada, which accounts for a large majority of the 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 11: timber sales into the US. 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Bilage Pens adds the tariffs are set to go 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: into effect October fourteenth. Some increases are targeted for next year. 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: President Trump says the actions would shore up domestic manufacturing, 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: but homebuilders have warned they could also deter investments in 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: new houses and renovations. 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan o'rally in US stocks risks losing steam due 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: to concerns about a looming US government shutdown, and we 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: turn to the markets now with Bloomberg's John Tucker. 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 6: John, good morning, Good morning Kary. 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 12: Yet, traders have been focused on the jobs reports scheduled 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 12: for Friday, but it may not happen and that is 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 12: clouding the picture for investors. Of labor Statistics is going 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 12: to delay the release of the scheduled Friday job support 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 12: and suspend all operations in the event of a shutdown. 98 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 12: Was according to a contingency plan published by the Department 99 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 12: of Labor. Next week's inflation data could follow also in 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 12: the driver's seat for investors FED policy, and that will 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 12: depend on the data. At a conference yesterday, Federal Reserve 102 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 12: Bank of Saint Louis president ALBERTA. Mussalom said policymakers can't 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 12: rush into anything. 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: I'm open minded to future potential reductions and interest rates. 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 12: I do believe we need to tread cautiously and doesn't 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 12: stop there of The uncertainty around trade policies also persists, 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 12: as President Trump did say he'd impose new terms through 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 12: a pair of the sweeping yet confusing plans in New 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 12: York Home John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: Okay, John, thank you. The Trump administration is ramping up 111 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: its fight with higher education. The Department of Health and 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Human Services says it's referring Harvard University for administrative suspension 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: and debarment that would exclude the university from entering into 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: contracts with all government agencies or receiving any federal funding 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: that includes research grants and student aid. Several months ago, 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: HHS informed Harvard leaders that the university acted with deliberate 117 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: indifference toward allegations of campus anti semitism. Harvard now has 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: twenty days to request a hearing with an administrative law 119 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: judge at HHS to appeal the decision. 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: Nathan and Financial Services Jeffries posted its best fiscal third 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: quarter revenue ever, with total revenue jumping almost twenty two percent. 122 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: The firm said the last quarter was its best ever 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: for advisory revenue as deal activity picked up and market 124 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: conditions improved. Trading activity also came in higher than a 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: year ago. Jeffrey's CEO, Rich Handler says despite uncertainties, businesses 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: are forging ahead with the plans for initial public offerings 127 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: and mergers and acquisitions. 128 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: And finally, Karen Boeing has reportedly begun work on a 129 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: next generation single aisle aircraft that could eventually replace the 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: seven thirty seven Max. This is according to a Wall 131 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: Street Journal report that says the new model is in 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: its early stages and it comes a mid growing concern 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: about seven thirty seven Maxes safety. 134 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Time now for a look at some of the other 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: stories making news in New York and around the world. 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 6: Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. 138 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 9: Authorities in Michigan say search crews did not find any 139 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 9: additional bodies inside a church of Jesus Christ of Latter 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 9: day Saints Chapel, where a marine veteran opened fire and 141 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 9: set the building a blaze, killing four people. Police had 142 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 9: fear that they would find more victims in the chart wreckage, 143 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 9: but now believe everyone is accounted for after Sunday's attack. 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 9: Michigan Governor Gretchen. 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Whitmer, this might be a familiar pain, but it hurts 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: all the same every time. 147 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 6: We cannot keep living our lives like this. 148 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 9: Investigators are focusing on what motivated Thomas Said to ram 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 9: his pickup truck into the church in Grand Blank Township. 150 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 9: The suspect was also killed while exchanging gunfire with officers. 151 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 9: Eight other people were wounded and are expected to recover. 152 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 9: Charlie Javis was sentenced to eighty five months behind bars 153 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 9: for defrauding JP Morgan Chase in its one hundred and 154 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 9: seventy five million dollar acquisition of her student finance startup. 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 9: Frank Us District Judge Alvin Hellerstein ordered Javis to fourfeit 156 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 9: twenty two point four million dollars and to pay two 157 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 9: hundred and eighty seven point five million in restitution to 158 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 9: JP Morgan. In addition to her prison time, Javis was 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 9: convicted by a New York jury in March for lyne 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 9: and faking user data to mislead JP Morgan into believing 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 9: her site had more than four point twenty five million 162 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 9: users when it actually had fewer than three hundred thousand. 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 9: The site of armed camouflage and masked Border Patrol agents 164 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 9: making arrests near famous downtown Chicago landmarks has amplified concerns 165 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 9: about the Trump administration growing federal intervention across US cities. 166 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 9: Illinois leaders more on Monday of a National Guard deployment. 167 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 9: Governor Pritzker said he was alerted to federal officers using teargas, 168 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 9: pepper spray, rubber bullets, and flash bang devices on peaceful 169 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 9: protesters and journalists in the Chicago suburb of Broadview. 170 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,359 Speaker 12: In any other country, if federal agents fired upon journalists 171 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 12: and protesters went unprovoked, what would we call it? 172 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 9: Memphis, Tennessee and Portland Morgan have also braced for a 173 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,239 Speaker 9: surge of federal law enforcement. President Trump says it's necessary 174 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 9: blasting Democrats for crime and lacks immigration policies. Global news 175 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 9: twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it, 176 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 9: with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barrn. This is 177 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Hearent. 178 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Michael all time now for our Bloomberg Sports updating. 179 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: For that, we bring in John stash Hour. 180 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 6: Thanks Aaron Ray. 181 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 12: Four. 182 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 13: End of the Miami Dolphins getting their first win twenty 183 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 13: seven to twenty one over the still winless Jets, who 184 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 13: had thirteen penalties and three fumballs Denver and easy win 185 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 13: over Cincinnati twenty eight to three. Both teams are two 186 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 13: and two. The baseball postseason begins today with Detroit and Cleveland. 187 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 13: San Diego visits the Cubs. The Red Sox and Yankees 188 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 13: meet in New York. The Red sway of the Dodgers 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 13: in LA. The Minnesota Twins fired manager Rocco Baldelli. The 190 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 13: San Francisco Giants fired manager Bob Melvin. That's your Bloomberg 191 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 13: Sports update. 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 193 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: after this. 194 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 195 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business opp This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 197 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 6: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: With less than twenty four hours to go until the deadline. 199 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: The US government may be careening toward a shutdown. That 200 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: seems to be the way. Vice President JD. Van sees 201 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: a fiter to talks with Democrats at the White House. 202 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: Vance says, the Democrats need the budge on their healthcare demands. 203 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 13: You don't put a gun to. 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: The American people's head and say unless you do exactly 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: what Senator House. 206 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 4: Democrats want you to do, we're going to shut down 207 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: your government. That's exactly what they're proposing out there. 208 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 6: And that was Vice President JD. Vance at the White 209 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 6: House this morning. 210 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: We're joined by Bloomberg's Rosalind Matheson and roz I guess 211 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: it makes you wonder whether all those talks at the 212 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: White House, after they were delayed by the President for 213 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: several days, got us any closer to a resolution on 214 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: just how far apart these parties are right now. 215 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning. 216 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 14: Well, as you say, after these talks yesterday, they do 217 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 14: still seem quite some way apart, and certainly there's a 218 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 14: lot of bluster going on. You just played the comments 219 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 14: from Vice President Jeddie Vance. You also had the Senate 220 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 14: Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer saying there are still large differences 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 14: between us and he was speaking after the meeting. Obviously, 222 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 14: the key part of this is the Democrats demands to 223 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 14: extend healthcare subsidies and also to reverse some of the 224 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 14: funding cuts to Medicaid that were included in Trump's big, 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 14: big tax bill that was passed earlier this year. So 226 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 14: the question is, at this stage, is there any room 227 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 14: for compromise and what might that look like. Will the 228 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 14: Democrats entertain a compromise because the White House is clearly 229 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 14: setting up a narrative that any shutdown and its resultant 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 14: impact is because the Democrats wouldn't budge. And even if 231 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 14: there is something, is it merely a stop gap? Are 232 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 14: you just agreeing to keep funding going for a week 233 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 14: or ten days while you try and get a deal done. 234 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 14: Is it simply pushing this down the road by whek 235 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 14: to try and create some space to negotiate. But it 236 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 14: does seem fundamentally there's still that disagreement, particularly around healthcare subsidies. 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: Now when it comes to the healthcare rise, are we 238 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: hearing any sort of wiggle room from the Democrats as 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: far as what aspects of the healthcare demands they're making 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: that they might be willing to put off until some 241 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: kind of stopgap is passed. 242 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 14: Well, there is some conversation around that, and there was 243 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 14: a suggestion at least again from the Democratic leader, that 244 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 14: they could settle for some of their priorities rather than 245 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 14: all of them. And the key one here, the red 246 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 14: line seems to be extending the subsidies for affordable care 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 14: at premiums and that seems to be the number one 248 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 14: And so can they have an agreement around that and 249 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 14: push some of the rest of it down the road, 250 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 14: or do they agree to extend those subsidies at least 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 14: for a certain period and then phase them out in 252 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 14: a more staggered fashion down the line. I mean, that 253 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 14: seems to be really the red line there that we're seeing. 254 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 14: I mean, also, we did have Jeddie Vance saying that 255 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 14: some of the Democratic positions Donald Trump thinks are reasonable 256 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 14: quote reasonable, and that may be addressing real health care 257 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 14: funding is one area from compromise. So there are some 258 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 14: little glimmers of hope there so far on that side, 259 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 14: but there's still, you know, fundamentally quite big differences going on. 260 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 9: Now. 261 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: We have had government shutdowns in the past. Who've seen them? 262 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: Heaven for you know, various lengths of time. But in 263 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: terms of what we could be looking at around economic impact, 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: the impact on the data, what are some of the 265 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: scenarios here. 266 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 14: Well, we know that it would delay some of the 267 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 14: key economic indicators, particularly again the employment report that's still 268 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 14: out on Friday. You also have the usual thing of 269 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 14: hundreds of thousands of federal workers being temporarily furloughed and others, 270 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 14: you know, work without pay because you do need to 271 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 14: keep certain services going, and the knock on effect of 272 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 14: that could be brief, or it could be protracted, you know, 273 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 14: shutdowns of those kind of cliff moments where people do 274 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 14: end up pending to negotiate. 275 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: So the question would be how long it went on for? 276 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 14: Is that as long as the pre be shut down, 277 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 14: which occurred of course in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and 278 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 14: that's when funding lapsed for five weeks? 279 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 6: Is it as long as that do you see a bigger. 280 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 14: Impact on the economy and therefore on markets, But in 281 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 14: a way also for markets. A lot of the decision 282 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 14: making has coalesced around the White House and arguably less 283 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 14: so in Congress. Donald Trump uses a lot of executive 284 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 14: orders on things that impact the economy, including on the 285 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 14: trade side, in a way perhaps bypassing Congress, but obviously 286 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 14: some of the money that fans out into these programs 287 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 14: do go through a congressional route. So the impact on 288 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 14: the economy, it's a bit hard to say in advance. Again, 289 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 14: it depends primarily on just how long a shutdown would 290 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 14: go for. 291 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: All right, well, we know that it's not too long 292 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: until that deadline, so we'll continue to keep our eyes 293 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: on Washington. 294 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 6: Thank you for this. 295 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: That's Bloomberg's Rosalind matheson with us this morning. Now we 296 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: want to turn to the latest on the war in Gaza, 297 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: because we've had developments from Washington on that front as well. 298 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: Both President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanya, who 299 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: after a White House meeting say they have agreed to 300 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: a twenty point plan designed to end the war. Now, 301 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: the question, it seems, is will Hamas agreed to this 302 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: plan and for more on that, we're joined by Bloomberg 303 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: Horizons anchor Jumana Bursecci. 304 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 6: Jumana, thank you for being with us. 305 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: I mean that is an open question, isn't it, considering 306 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: that Hamas has walked away from previous peace plans. 307 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: In gossip. 308 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 15: Good morning, Yes, good morning to you. Yes, most definitely. 309 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 15: We are awaiting an official response from Hamas. One senior 310 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 15: representative from HAMAS spoke to Al Jazira channel last night 311 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 15: and said that they were reviewing the proposal, that they 312 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 15: had not been privy to it beforehand. But the question 313 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 15: does remain are they going to accept the terms of 314 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 15: the proposal, because this could be quite a watershed moment. 315 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 15: And I would say, you know, one of the key 316 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 15: characteristics that changes or that distinguishes yesterday's proposal from prior 317 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 15: proposals is it does have buy in from many regional allies. 318 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 15: Many Arab states have thrown their weight behind it, including 319 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 15: the likes of Qatar. A very important step was taken 320 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 15: prior to the release of this twenty point plan, whereby 321 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 15: the Israeli Prime Minister had a phone call with the 322 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 15: Katari PM, extended an olive branch and expressed regrets over 323 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 15: the attack that took place in Doha. And both sides 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 15: have now sort of pledged to push on with these 325 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 15: mediation efforts. And this morning you got a statement from 326 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 15: all Arab states in the region saying that they were 327 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 15: behind and putting their weight behind the proposal put forward 328 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 15: by the Trump administration. So that does signal that they, 329 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 15: in turn, perhaps will put pressure on Hamas to accept 330 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 15: the terms of this proposal. But of course it would 331 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 15: mean that Hamas would have no rule in no say 332 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 15: in future governance of Gaza, and also would lead to 333 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 15: their eventual disarmament. So we're waiting to hear from them. 334 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 15: They have seventy two hours to respond. 335 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: Now, that was a fundamental aspect of what Hamas has 336 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: rejected in the past, this idea that it would have 337 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: no role in a post war Gaza. I mean, how 338 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: much pressure can the Arab leaders put to bear on Hamas. 339 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean, who's layer to negotiate given that attack that 340 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: happened recently on Hamas leaders in Doha. 341 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 15: Yeah, well, the attack on Hamas leaders actually was unsuccessful 342 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 15: in that it didn't manage to take out the senior 343 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 15: Hamas negotiators, so they're still operating. I will say that 344 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 15: one of the points of the plan includes an offer 345 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 15: of amnesty to any Hamas operative who hands over their 346 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 15: weapons and commits to coexistence. So that's an important line. 347 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 15: So we'll see whether that incentivizes them. Ultimately, we've been 348 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 15: here before, They've seen proposals like this in the past, 349 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 15: but I think the real difference this time around is 350 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 15: that you have Arab support behind it. 351 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 6: And if you look. 352 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 15: At the details of the proposal, you know there are 353 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 15: several paragraphs about what post Hamas Gaza governance will look like, 354 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 15: including an apolitical Palestinian committee that will set up there 355 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 15: will be oversight by what President Trump is calling a 356 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 15: transitional Board of Peace, chaired by none other than himself, 357 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 15: alongside the former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and other 358 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 15: heads of state yet to be named. And then it 359 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 15: also talks about a security force that's going to be 360 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 15: established by Arab states, including the likes of Egypt and Kuttar, 361 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 15: who will take over some security operations within Gaza until 362 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 15: there is a credible Palestinian force that can do the same. 363 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 15: But ultimately there is also a line in this twenty 364 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 15: point proposal that is about this May, and the May 365 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 15: is important here, maybe paving a pathway towards an eventual 366 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 15: Palestinian states with the Big Caveat of Thats obviously not. 367 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 6: Being a part of it. 368 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 15: But then the Palestinian authority also having to reform itself, 369 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 15: which is one of the key parameters that is set 370 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 15: by the Israeli government. 371 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: Just thirty seconds left that language about a Palestinian state. 372 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: Could that comp things for Prime Minister NATANYAHUO and some 373 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: of the hardliners in his coalition. 374 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely, very important question, and that There's been a 375 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 15: lot of speculation about the wording behind it because it 376 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 15: says may not necessarily will and so there is some 377 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 15: obscurity in the phrasing. But I think it had to 378 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 15: be put in there because of some of the efforts 379 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 15: that are taking place behind the scene from the Arab 380 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 15: states and to put a line under the Katar attack. 381 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 15: This is something that the Gulf allies in the region 382 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 15: had been pushing for. 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