WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Same Problems, New Angle 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:03.680 The following. 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:05.680 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.440 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:17.280 Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.239 Cowboys World headquarters. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:24.200 At the Star in Frisco, Tech Burgers. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.680 Here Pascot tistdown. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:34.080 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:43.920 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.160 Hey their Cowboys Nation. The Cowboys fall to the Los 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:52.160 Angeles Chargers thirty four No Good, thirty four to seventeen, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.320 the final score from AT and T Stadium. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.960 Welcome into Talking Cowboys. It is a holiday week, so 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.760 we're gonna try our best to cheer you up. Now 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.240 we're not We're not gonna try and cheer you up. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.080 We're gonna just talk. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.040 About what happened over the course of that football game. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.240 In Week sixteen, the Cowboys fall to six eight and one. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.039 This music is very kind to sitting sending to what 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.760 the tone should be for this show for Patrick No 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.880 C Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.880 back of Kyle Yellmans. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.880 Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:27.560 By Live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:33.440 SWBC studios. Yeah, not the game that the Cowboys certainly wanted. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.360 Of course, in between the time of our final show 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.560 on Say It with You Chest Friday into this Monday, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.319 it ends up being an elimination for the Cowboys as 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:44.399 well as the Eagles. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.760 Garnet took down the Commanders. It was a part of 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.360 what we anticipated. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.800 However, Yeah, it's now official, and it became even more 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:54.800 official whenever they. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.240 Lost later on. So there's a lot of. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.760 A lot of disappointment I think around the twenty twenty 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.120 five season when it comes to the Cowboys and the 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:04.880 talent and. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.920 How they were, they were, how they played yesterday. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.080 But I'll start with you Patrick, you were in the building, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.480 your thoughts on how it went down against the Chargers. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.320 Once again, the Cowboys are the g RG, the get 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:17.880 right game, that's how it goes. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.560 So we said it last week. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.880 Josh pointed it out as a contrary point to yours, Kyle, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.040 when you were just thrown out the stats, saying that 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.959 the offensive line for the Los Angeles Chargers basically were 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.240 one of the worst in the league as far as 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:32.600 allowing pressure on. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:35.520 Injuries on the line. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.320 Yeah, of course, and your. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.440 Counterpoint was that, well, the Cowboys can't get after the 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.480 up to the quarterback, So which one of these things 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.880 is going to out bad the other thing? And I 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.360 said on Friday, I think the Cowboys' lack of pass 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.080 of rushability is going to make it a watch and 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.959 I think that Justin Herbert is going to stay clean 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.080 for a good bit of the game. Well, Justin Herbert 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.560 was not sacked for the first time this entire season. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.800 Cowboys did not sack Justin Herbert a single time. He 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.560 had his way back there. He was back there playing 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.760 Madden basically, and from there so the game went. Cowboys 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.640 these last two weeks have figured out the inability to 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.720 have a fast start offensively. They figured that out, but 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.600 now they're having slow finishes. Peanut butter, no jellymn Ham, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.880 no burd It seems like that's the theme with this 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.120 Cowboys team this season. Something goes right and then something 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.560 else is going wrong to wash it out. And that's 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.120 what happened again on yesterday. Shouts out to you know 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.840 that Dyke tried to push through. George Pickens had a 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.480 big game, Ceedee Lamb crossed the thousand yard threshold for 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.960 a fifth consecutive season despite having missed several games, so 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.920 you know, there was some bright spots. Yafonte, he did 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.840 what he could. Ryan Flanoy, I'm waiting for an update 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.880 on him with the knee injury. Just kind of quick news. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:56.120 And note Ryan Flinoy with a knee and the Marvin 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.760 Overshowing concussion. I don't expect either of them to play 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.360 on Christmas Day. Just put that out there right now. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.480 But for the most part, I mean, the defense was 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.640 getting gashed as they normally have been those three games, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.960 notwithstanding coming out of the boweek and it was a 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.000 lot of the same old, same olde which is a 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.520 team comes in and whatever they're bad at they suddenly 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.560 become really good at. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.760 But I was told that having Matt Eberflus up in 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.080 the booth to call the game defensively would improve. I mean, 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.840 it was just an idea to improve. This is something 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.400 that they came up with, the brain trust that the 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.560 Dallas Cowboys came up with. Over the last week. I 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.640 did not see any indication of a change on defense. Obviously, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.680 this looked to be like one of the worst performances 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.400 that I've seen from the Dallas Cowboys defense. But yet again, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.040 like we were just talking about the Dallas Cowboys defense 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.200 just can't get right. That's their nickname the season. In 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.000 another situation where the offense has to play a perfect 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.360 game in order to to keep you in the conversation. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.800 In the game period did in. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.280 The first half for the most part, it. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.240 Looked good, and then an unfortunate holding call, which was 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:15.279 kind of iffy on my part, permitted Ryan Filoy's second 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.200 touchdown of the game. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.039 It was tiki tech, but it was the right call. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:18.720 I hate to him. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.400 I disagree Patrick. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.920 You can't hold they and turn him. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.120 I mean, and if you let that go a split 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.200 second sooner, then you probably don't get the flag. And 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.520 also if you don't hold him at all, it doesn't 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:31.960 affect the play if you look at the time and 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:32.720 of the throw so. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.440 Well, and Isaiah said in real time, he said, Dak 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.680 didn't necessarily help out there because he went into the pressure. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.760 Not that Dak knows, but he went into the pressure 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.599 and then allowed for Khalil Mactain. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.800 It was Tiki tech, but it was not a bad call. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.360 I really don't want to I mean, granted that the 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.080 Chargers defense buckled up in the second half and we 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.920 were able to hold the Cowboys from doing anything offensively 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.040 and had them in a lot of fourth down situations 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.600 which Cowboys did not convert on. There was just some 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.479 looks there that the offense was not necessarily getting right. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.479 But more so than not, the fact that you weren't 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.360 able to generate any pressure against that offensive line, the 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.000 Dallas Cowboys, I mean against the Chargers offensive line. It's 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.320 just to me, it just is more of the same. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.800 And talked about him going up to the booth and 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.640 how that might change things, a better look, a better view, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.720 and being able to make better adjustments during the game. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.880 You simply didn't see it. It was just more of 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:29.200 the same. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.880 Their offense scoring against our defense six of eight times. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.360 Easily, six scoring drives of eight. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.279 Drives, eight total possessions. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.120 Wow, that seems like a lot, Isaiah. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.840 It's not a good percentage. But second half the Cowboys 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.240 do we know it. But the first half was good. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.679 Second half the Cowboys possessions. But turtle run downs, turnle 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.679 run downs, fumble. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.680 That doesn't seem good either, GB not good. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:06:59.920 Bum. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:07.000 You couldn't do anything offensively. You had a good start offensively, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.800 you had a good start defensively, it wasn't wasn't great 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.760 at all. Obviously it was not all just Eberflus. I know, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.160 I know he's getting torch right now, and statistically for 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.200 the last fifteen games, it shows that he should be 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.800 getting torch. But it's not just him, it's not just Flus. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.840 There were times where he got out schemed. There was 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.120 times where he called man and we got beat Yep. Yeah, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.640 I don't know what it is. So, I mean, I 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.600 understand he's the representative and responsible for all those guys 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.360 on that side of the ball, but guys still have 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.840 a job to do, so I don't want him to 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.880 be the only scapegoat. Guys need to be held accountable 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.320 to not handling their assignments as well. So just bad man, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.520 bad And in terms of the running game, I don't 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.320 know why we are just not committing to that portion. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:56.400 Is frustrated me. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.880 Over the last probably five games now, they just have 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.240 not whatever reason. They just said, all right, do you 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:02.600 want to tell you? Yeah, we know you were top 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.840 five for a while, but we're gonna throw this thing around. Yeah. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.080 And it wasn't like they weren't getting stopped on the run. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:15.200 They just stopped giving it to him. Yeah, so I 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.760 don't know. It's frustrating, And I mentioned Kyle and the 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.680 rest of the crew. You're going to be frustrated when 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.440 you have expectations that are aren't met. And I didn't 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.480 expect the Cowboys to win in this game. I just 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.840 think that against larger, more physical teams, we just don't 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.480 do well. So I did not have an expectation of 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.360 a victory, but I expected a more competitive battle. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.120 And yeah, Shunnon Hummer's not off the hook on this 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.080 one either. They got off to a fast start, which 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.240 was great. Unfortunately you had like the holding penalty which 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.640 ended up negating would have been Flinnoy's second touchdown. So 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.240 for the most part, first couple of offensive drives, holding 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.439 penalty notwithstanding, those guys were cooking. But then came it 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.480 slowed down and in the second half it was just 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.280 like a few of those calls, example being like fourth 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.040 and inches while you did it off the Hunter lip 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.120 key in that situation, Kyle tweeted, and I jumped right 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.200 on that tweet. You're like, might as well QB sneaky 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.440 in that might as well might as well as opposed 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.520 to handing it back three or four yards to get 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:11.160 three inches. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.360 I'll never understand, that says. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.840 But then there was another particular drive where you had 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.400 two errant passes from Dak Prescott, which it looks like 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.720 it was a miscommunication between him and the receiver. One 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.960 went sailing way downfield down the right scene and the 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.880 other was, yeah, I think it was too turping stopped. Yeah, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.200 that's what I mean, like there was a miscommunication there, a. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.480 Miscommunication turban Stock. He just didn't run roun. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.800 He just stopped running his route because Dak Prescott from 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:40.120 again not understanding, not knowing, I this is me just speculating, Yeah, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.320 not knowing what throughout what that was called. But it 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.240 looks as if he was responsible for taking the middle 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.280 of the field open terp. It happens at times where 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.720 receivers running their route and they're like, ah, I can't 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.319 get past this guy, right. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.080 So they just throttle down. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:53.960 He's not throwing me. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.800 Yeah, he's not throwing it to me, right because there's 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.120 a guy right here. He's not throwing it to me. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.440 I'm gonna shut my route down right now. Dak was like, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.920 you're cavarante freaking turpin. Yeah, get past this guy, Okay, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.440 so that from what I perceived, that was the miscommunication, Like, hey, bro, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.120 why are you stopping like you're one of the fastest 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.400 cats in the league, don't stop running. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.280 Yeah, that would track because in real time it was 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.040 such such a broken play that you would think that 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.800 Dak was assuming this route will be ran and the 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.720 player did not run the route, which is basically what 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.040 you're saying. But you're saying it wasn't because you don't 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.240 believe it was because Cavante Turpin thought he was supposed 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.480 to run and out. It was because Cavante Turpin. It's 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.000 not coming to me. I'm shutting up, yep, which is horrible. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.679 But yeah, so the offense is not not excused from 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.000 the loss at all when you only get seventeen points 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:40.480 but fast start, slow finish, and the Cowboys defense just 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.360 did what we felt the Cowboys defense was due. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.199 Unfortunately, yeh, you're as the offense, you're not excused from 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.360 seventeen points, especially when all seventeen come in the first 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:49.719 half and. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.120 You didn't get exact the second half. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.640 So, and we talked about this numerous times on the show, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.720 is this is the twenty twenty five Dallas Cowboys when 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.119 we look back on this season and remember how this unfolded, 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.800 and what will stick out it's the fact that the 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.800 offense had to be perfect, And to expect an offense 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.480 to be perfect in the National Football League in twenty 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.400 twenty five is unrealistic. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.680 But they've had to be perfect, and they almost were 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:16.480 in the first half. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.760 They scored on all three of their full possessions in 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.400 the first half, except the only exception of the difference 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.400 between the crazy fast start that the Chargers had and 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.960 then the Cowboys offense had was the fact that they 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.960 had a holding call and the field goal. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.520 That's the only difference in the entire first half. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.800 Touch a bunch, but you can't expect that to happen 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.959 over four quarters. And when you're talking about consistency, you're 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.320 talking about complimentary football, which I know fans get tired. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.480 Of hearing, but it's so true. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.200 It's what good teams do. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.320 That's what good teams do. I mean, look at what 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:51.120 happened last night the Patriots. The Patriots, even when they 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.000 were down, they had a special teams play then followed 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.120 by a defensive play. Then the offense picked it up 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.040 and Stephan Diggs had one hundred and thirty five hours. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.240 There's a reason why they're twelve and four. I mean, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.280 that's a part of this game right now is you 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.120 have to have all three phases, and the Cowboys, for 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.480 lack of a better term, don't have two of them. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.800 They don't have two of those phases playing at a 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.120 high level right now, defense and special teams. I'll still 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.440 contend even with the seventeen points on the board. I 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.400 think the offense was fine except for the run game. 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:21.800 I do agree with you there, and I think they 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.760 went away a long run and they fell off, and 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.680 I think part of that is they felt pressure, then 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.040 they fell back into a corner. And whenever they fill 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.959 backed into the corner, the default for Brian Schottenheimer as 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.720 a play caller is throw the pill, throw it around. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.760 And that's where I feel like yesterday came into fruition. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.280 It looked like a team that had nothing to play for. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.080 It looked like a team that had been eliminated from 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.920 playoff contention, which is something I did not expect. Even 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.880 if you were eliminated going into that game as the 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.120 Dallas Cowboys, I still expected to see fight, and you 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.079 saw it in sporadic points. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.120 I think you saw it for a half. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.400 It maybe for the half. I would contend that maybe 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:00.959 from the offense subside for a half. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.320 But to kind of contend or just to compliment what 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.240 you're saying about a team that is more physical than you, 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.120 the Dallas Cowboys sort of gave up in that aspect. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.520 They warned that they were worn down. I don't want 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.960 to say they gave up, but they were worn down. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.280 How physical the Chargers. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.240 Were, Well, it's and you make a point, and a 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:17.880 good point. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.360 They did look like, for the most part, a team 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:25.120 that had nothing to play for, unfortunately. But what makes 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.840 that even more disconcerting is they're in this position because 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.079 they had the same energy in Detroit against the Lions. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.480 When they had an opportunity to continue to apply pressure 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.280 to the Philadelphia Eagles and really push this thing down 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.480 to the wire, you showed up and basically laid down. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:48.720 So's it literally, like I hate to say that because 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.239 I know it sounds terrible, but it has been consistent, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.520 not just this year, It's been consistent. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.800 That's our identity is it really has been. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.320 It really has been based upon the personnel that you 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.760 have when you play team that's about that life and 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.480 they're bigger than you, right, and they and they're willing 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.559 to go toe to toe in the box all day long. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:08.640 You struggle. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.000 Okay, I want to I want to do a little 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.680 social experiment here off of that. Out of the losses 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.360 for the Cowboys this year, was this a more physical 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.800 football team than the Cowboys? Not necessarily in the game, 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.720 but just think about the roster, right, Eagles, Yes, yeah 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.840 for the most part. Yes, the first game, the Bears, yes, yes, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.960 this year. Absolutely, Panthers, Yes, they did that day. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.000 They were definitely that day. The Broncos. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.040 They didn't buckle up that game. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.280 Broncos, absolutely, absolutely the Broncos. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.119 The one I could probably contend would probably be the Cardinals, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.600 like they just aren't that good. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.680 They just kind of got you that day. Lions, Vikings they. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.080 Fitted off the line though the Cardinals did. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.360 Lions, Yeah, yes, Vikings, Yes, floor is. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.480 And I think the final three games you've been out 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.600 physical by that football team. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.720 And it takes me back to what year. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:03.200 Was that twenty twenty two when Dallas maybe twenty one 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.600 going into twenty two, Dallas felt like they got punked 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.360 by San Francisco in that first playoff game and they 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.479 got out physical by San Francisco Kyle Shanahan. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.960 And what did they do that offseason? They said, we're 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:19.520 gonna revamp. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.480 How tough we are up front and their first round 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.960 pick was Tyler Smith and that was a check the box. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.720 You got that one, right, So is that going to 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.360 be the mantra this year. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.960 You've got some speed, you've got some skill, You've got 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:33.440 some talent. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.000 You're gonna have to retain a couple of guys that 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.120 are in contract years. But for the most part, if 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.000 you're going to attack something, you need to attack your 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.240 physicality as a team because you just don't have that. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:45.920 Oh, you have so much finesse, you have the skill 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.800 players that are in sight. I mean, you have a 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.360 bowl of lucky charms without any milk to speak of, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.440 you know what I mean. You gotta pour water in 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.800 there like it's just it's flashy, but it's not. There's 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.600 no depth, there's nothing behind it. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.960 I think the problem is is that you don't have 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:07.880 the physicality at every position. So you brought in Kenny Clark, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.080 super physical monster of a man. You go and trade 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.120 for Quinn Williams, superphysical monster of a man. So your 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:20.040 defensive interior monster of a man. Physical your edges Nope, okay, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.360 and it's not even the notck to a guy like Easy. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:24.640 Easy is more of a finess guy. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.400 Like I said, they're trying to like said, they're trying 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.400 to fit him as a demarkets Horns, but that he's not. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.360 In their mind. And this is my thought. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.800 I think that they believe that Sam Williams is going 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.960 to be that guy for them. They did think so, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:35.720 they did. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.920 Maybe they thought about one thought. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.960 They thought so because he has that he has that mentality. Yeah, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.160 it's just just doesn't right. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.440 So defensive interior, check and check super physical. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.400 Great, that's all for now. In the future, your edges 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:52.760 not so much. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.840 Linebackers Nope, you don't have physicality at the linebacker court 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:57.120 at all. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.240 Cornerbacks nope. I'll say ready, ready, ready, safety ready playing 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:07.439 out position. And then speaking of your safeties, you got Donald. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.800 He's physical, but he's always been asked to do what 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.879 her cover. He's asked to do, but it's not his 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:12.520 strong point. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.480 So from a defensive side of the ball, the only 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.119 physicality that you have that can out muscle an opposing 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.200 team is your defensive interior. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:22.840 That's it. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.720 Your defensive line or defensive tackles. I should say, offensively speaking, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.040 you got to figure out your offensive line. You got 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.480 to figure it out. You got Tyler Smith check that box. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.200 Outside of Tyler Booker, yeah, I like what you got too, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.200 super physical interior linemen. We'll see if BB can take 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.920 the next thing, we'll see. But the two Tyler's Booker 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.440 and Smith. Yes, outside of that, you don't see that 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.160 from Terrence. Still on the consistent basis Tyler get needs 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.480 to remain on the field. Nate Thomas and not having 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.560 a good show in Cooper BB. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.960 We'll see. But my point being, they have too many spots. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.600 Where that we got dogs, horses that will punch you 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.400 in the mouth. It's not enough of that at certain positions. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.719 And until you figure that out, you're gonna keep getting off. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.800 Do you think it's because of the culture that they're 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:10.840 trying to create here? 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.640 Explain the locker room culture. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.320 Oftentimes when coaches and organizations are trying to get a. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.800 Team that is it's the best way of saying that some. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.720 You need, some goons, you need some guys that you 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.040 need some guys that are like on the edge. You 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.240 got to reel them in a little bit like maybe 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.880 they don't necessarily always maybe they don't always. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.320 Fall on line right, Like every team needs those guys. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.040 Receiver you want to go, yeah, you got one a receiver. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.520 But I'm saying so, I wonder this is not an 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:51.679 indictment on their actual physical being, but the mentality of 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.520 the players that they're acquiring. Maybe they need to get 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.520 some more edgy players because at the end of the day, physicality, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:03.960 a lot of it is mentality, the facts, absolute fact. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.359 I'm gonna end that segment there because I completely agree 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.719 with you, and I think there's a lot of that 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.000 going forward. There's a lot of blame being thrown around. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.159 It could go one way or the other, but I 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.399 think everybody in the building has something to do with 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.600 how this season, at different points in time, has come 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.880 down to what it is now. And you're two games 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.840 under five hundred, you're out of playoff picture, entirely, completely 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.800 eliminated from contention with three games to go. There's a 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.640 lot while you were going, I know, but you were 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.280 out into your third game generally. So with all that 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.000 being said, there's not just one person or one specific 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.320 area that needs to have the blame. 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I saw a stat yesterday that. 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.440 I think sums up kind of what we were talking 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:57.479 about in the first segment there. 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:01.280 The Cowboys have a four thousand yard passer yep two 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:05.440 one thousand yard receivers Seedie Lamb and George Pickens and 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.640 the one thousand yard rusher and Javonte Williams, and yet 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:15.359 they were eliminated from playoff contention with three games to go. 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.800 So all of that to be said, that's crazy. 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.639 I mean, you've got to point to the defense. And 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.960 everybody knows this. Everybody's watched this. If you've even listened 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:29.440 to a smidgeon of talking Cowboys over the course of 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.600 the season, you would know the defense has been abysmal. 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.200 At different times, I thought he was gonna do it. 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.400 You want it today? 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.520 The defenserash. 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.560 So I'm not as good at it. I don't think. 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.920 Where do you start when we go into this offseason. 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.000 We just talked about physicality, and I think that's that's 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.440 a number one trait that you need. But I'm thinking 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:56.520 more position groups here. 0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.520 Do you start in the secondary? Do you start in 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.639 the passer? Uh, You've already revamped the interior, so I 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.240 think you're set moving forward, unless do you want another 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:06.280 dtackle Isaiah? 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:06.720 Nope? 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.160 Okay, all right, so I got that out of the way. 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:14.600 Now he's got three. I got two monsters making before. Yes, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.399 Sally's under contract next year too. 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:17.120 That's good. 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:22.520 I haven't seen him recently, that's fair. But where do 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:22.960 you start. 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.639 I'm always going to be built front to back. You 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.080 have your defensive tackle position solved. Solve your defensive end, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.760 I have to You have to get a pass rush. 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:36.399 You have no choice because without the pass rush, just no. 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:41.280 Just a question. If you're solving your defensive end, are 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.439 you going to take a chance with one of your 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.800 first round picks or are you going to attack free agency? 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.920 I would like to attack free agency, but first I 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.720 want to see who's available. 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:55.960 Of course, yeah, right, and we can talk about there's 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.760 one name that is going to be available. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.920 Yeah, we can't say, and you can't say yeah. 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.159 But she's under contract this year and there was interest 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.920 in him going into the trade deadline in this franchise. 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.080 And I would say, even if you acquire that individual, 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.320 you still attack it in the draft. You got two 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.760 first round picks. So for me, my two first round 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.879 picks are going to be on the defensive side of 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.520 the ball. One is going to be defensive end, the 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:19.600 other is going to be linebacker. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.760 That's how I feel about it. Again, I'm building front 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.040 to back. 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.600 The marioon overshowing his back he's your centerpiece at the 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.440 linebacker position. But you don't know if they're going to 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.800 stick stick with theebrafluse. If they do stick with ebraflues, 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.080 that's probably going to keep Marris Leafile still clamped. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:36.639 Right. 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:38.960 What does that mean for Lamar James? He's going to 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.720 be more unleash. Does he take the step forward? 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:41.240 Things like that? 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.000 So the only player in the linebacker you that I'm 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.960 confident with going forward and you still have to put 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.560 an asterisk on that because he has to remain available, 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.760 which is the Marion overshown. So I'm not overlooking linebacker. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.040 And I think Kyle, you posed this question a few 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.359 weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, saying which positions 0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.200 do we want to address in the draft with the 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.640 two first round Yeah, that was after the Mini buy. Yeah, 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.280 defensive end and linebacker. Those are my two first round picks, 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.440 regardless of what I do in free agency. But also, 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.879 go get something in free agency? Where are you getting 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:13.840 a corner from? So no, no, no, no, I get 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.000 what he's saying, because the first thing popped in my mind. 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.400 The first thing popped in my mind was Okay, well 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.240 you need a corner. Yeah, but you know, what helps 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:25.280 corners I cover. I don't disagree, however, is Sacks and 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.680 Agreeb's running. 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:27.119 For them for the. 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.480 Who are your starting quarters next year? 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:31.840 Oh know, you got to figure that out. I'm not 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:32.640 saying you have an answer. 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:33.680 They don't even have one person. 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.920 They don't don't have an answer. There's gonna be healthy 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.520 Trayvon Diggs most likely won't be here, right you know 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.880 who's your starters where they're gonna look, They're gonna look 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:46.320 at some not like we haven't physical but he hasn't 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.240 had a full off season. 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.119 That's not And I'm just going off for what I 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:49.719 can say right now. 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.880 You're right, I don't have confidence in mind that he's 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.520 going to be a starter yet, but you have to 0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:54.360 hope that he gets. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.760 The answer, gets back to what he was. 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.320 Yeah, I get what you're saying, but the answer to 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.880 your question has to also be answered through the perf 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.320 of upstairs. So it's it's less about well, what would 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.320 no Seed do? Okay, I know what No he would do? 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.080 But I'm telling you that they're going to look at 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.360 it as if one revel as a starter. Ron Black 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.359 darn Bland is going to be back healthy. 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:16.119 He is Black is going to be back healthy, and 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.520 then you kind of go from there. So you're not wrong. 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:20.960 I shouldn't even have to say it, but I'll say 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.480 it anyway. You are in dire straits at cornerback, but 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.440 you're also in dire straits at input. 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.720 You could argue every position aside from but. 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.240 If you if you build backwards to forward, you're still 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:37.639 not pressuring the quarterback. You're still not getting linebackers who 0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.040 can have run fit correct run fits, so you're giving 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.400 up yards on the ground as well. So then it's like, yeah, 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.399 the corners are covering, but the windows are expanded and 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.240 now they have to help and run support. 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.480 I don't disagree with you, but then I go from 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.560 your point. Then I say what positions are harder to acquire? 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.240 Corner corner so like. But but then again, I wouldn't 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.639 be sold on a from linebacker because I don't know. 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.080 I don't know that I trust his team's evaluation of 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.280 linebackers in the draft, and I think, granted you you 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:11.200 you got overshown, Granted you have overshown, but there I mean, still, 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.040 even when he has been out there over the last 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.320 few weeks healthy, it hasn't been so excellent. 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.760 Let's say this counterpoint to that is they actually scout 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.600 linebackers really well and on day one and like day two, 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.200 but they have their snake bit right, so it's the 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:30.119 availability issue. So Leighton vandersh was a hit coming right 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.440 out right, Sean Lee was a hit for a good 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.959 bit of his career, but injury, so they can hit 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:36.200 on an off ball linebacker. 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:41.840 They drafted Michael so we're and ma right, and and 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.840 to Mario on overshowing. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.520 So as far as scouting the ability of an off 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.480 ball linebacker, they're actually really damn good at that. But 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.240 they tend to be snake bitting and getting these extremely 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.360 talented linebackers that then have availability issues. 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.920 But isn't that part of evaluation, I think making sure 0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.719 these players are you can't available. 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.160 The only one that was predictable, I hate to say 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.680 it that way, but the only one that had the 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.480 red flags that were inexcusable was l. 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.200 V E and Smith Jalus Smith. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.920 They did get him back on the field, but so 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.280 for the most part, and I won't excuse that because 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.640 you know, lvy E had nick issues coming out of 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:20.240 Boise State. 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.480 You were the you know, the the medical team that 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.000 injuries coming in. Yeah, so those two had those two 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.840 issues coming in, and the moon Clark had issues coming in. 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.040 Overshown had some injury flags at Texas too, did he Yeah. 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.120 To the extent that you would think, because you can't predict, 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:41.960 he definitely had some stuff. 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.960 Yeah. His is just a team is more. And I 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:45.720 look at it from this perspective. If I don't, if 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.080 I can't grab it in the draft, can I grab 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:49.880 it in free agency? Or can I trade for it? 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:50.479 Right? 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.680 Teams are less willing to trade really good corners. Yes, 0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:56.960 you're just not getting rid of them. 0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.080 Right, I think when you but if you are, you're 0:29:59.080 --> 0:29:59.960 paying a really high price. 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:05.480 Oh he goes quarterback, offensive tackle, defensive in freaking corner. 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.880 Look at the price that the Colts paid for Sas Gardner. 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:08.160 Yeah. 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.240 I mean not that Dallas would do anything like that 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.560 to go get a corner, but just look at the 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.920 price tag because even a step below that is still 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.680 going to cost you. And I think if you're going 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.560 to draft a linebacker, it's got to be a dude 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.680 that you expect to be a two names part of 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.960 your team for ten years. One of them Jacob Rodriguez 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:30.720 at Texas Tech. 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.280 Three names, Okay, okay, so you got you got one, 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.040 Sonny one, and ce J Allen is the other. Those 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.840 are three guys that I would use a first round 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.680 pick on. And I think because you have two first 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:47.640 round picks and I've seen you have success in hell cornerback. 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.440 All right, let's talk about cornerback before the latest Tradlon. 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.960 Let's not have recency bias. So we know everything's going 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.600 on with Trevlon Diggs. He's not been playing up to 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.400 the level, injury, etcetera, etcetera. But isn't he a second 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.080 round pick? So I say that to say you would 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:06.000 like to believe that you could find all these a 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.800 lottery picks. You never know, But if you found Trevon 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.040 Diggs in the second round, then you can find another Trayvon. 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.480 You don't have a second round pick, That's right, you don't. 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.040 That's what I'm saying you. You don't have any room 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.360 to operate when it comes to your first two round picks. 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.720 That's great. I love the fact that they have two 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.640 first round picks, but you don't have a second. 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.720 But they have to hit, and you got you gotta 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.920 hit both of them. Both of them have to be 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:31.280 both have to be Day one. 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.080 Start off, las your remind of me, we don't have 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.120 a second round pick, So get a second round pick. 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.800 How would you do it? 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.000 Package something? You're going to get some does it look 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.200 like right now in terms of where you're gonna get. 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.560 You're gonna get some compicks that you can package. You 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.400 take those and maybe you're throwing something from twenty seven. 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.240 Your comp picks aren't gonna get your back in. 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.480 No, no second package package. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:52.760 Who are you packaging? 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.360 Who? I didn't say who? I'm just who are you 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:56.960 thinking about? 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.120 That's what it's going to take. You don't have the 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.840 draft capital said no, you can draft. You can go 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.160 back if you wanted to trade your first round one 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.000 of your two first rounds to go back. 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.680 Pull from the future is what I'm saying. Pull from 0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:09.120 the future. 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.240 Right now, the Cowboys are sitting at thirteenth overall with 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.360 their pick, and then green Bay with their most recent loss. 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.320 They are projected to link in the wild wild card round. 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:23.920 They would be twenty. 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.720 One thirteen to twenty one thirteen in projection. 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.000 Projection because green Bay is going to make the playoffs 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.480 more than likely and if they make the playoffs. 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.440 Where they end up is going to determine. 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.200 How you're and I'm. 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.680 I would not be upset at one of those picks 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.760 being in cornerback. Let me be clear, I would not 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.000 be upset at it. But if you ask me to choose, 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:53.760 I need a pass rush, especially somebody opposite as Roku. 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:55.600 You also don't have a third round pick, by the way, 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.840 I forgot to say, yeah, no, day two picks periods good. 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.840 It's gonna be a long day for us in the studio. 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.959 Unless you start from twenty seven to twenty eight. 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.240 But I need somebody to complement Ezraku so that you 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.080 can take Zraku out of that DeMarcus Lawrence fit and 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.520 get him back to a DeMarcus where and I need 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.320 I need linebacker core solved, and then you know, look 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:18.160 at the cornerbacks. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.080 But I just I can't build front to back. I can't. 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:22.640 I mean, I'm back to front. I can't build front 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.840 the back. My brain just doesn't. My football brain doesn't 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:25.280 work that way. 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.720 But I mean, all of that being said, uh, what 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.600 we've kind of speculated about too, is that you may 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.560 have one of those picks go to another yet another 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:34.479 offensive Lineman. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.320 Maybe, so we talked about that. 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.160 Let's talk about that when we come back. I want 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.280 to go back to the offensive side, because of course 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.560 they are not without blaming the thirty four to seventeen 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.720 loss to the Los Angeles Chargers. 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There's a lot 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:45.200 of craziness in the chat today. I'm just kind of monitoring, 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.399 just kind of no, no, it's fine. I think it's fine, 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.719 and everybody's entitled to their own opinion. But I did 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.439 see this really good question and it does play into 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.600 what was going to go into this break, So I 0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.040 want to give credit where credit is due, Dalton asked. 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.359 He said, do you believe Brian Schottenheimer has evolved as 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.320 a play caller as. 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:06.440 The season has gone on. 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.919 Do you feel like he's evolved in his play calling, because, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.879 like we said, going into the break, got to talk 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.920 about the offense. We'll get to the offensive line in 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.279 a minute. But I just saw that question. 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.040 I think it's too good to pass. 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.040 No, I don't think he's evolved as a play caller. 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.520 I think he is a really good coach. I think 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.839 he's a good leader. But for me, time and time again, 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:29.840 you've been in situations we just talked about at the 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.800 top of the show where he's gotten away from the 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.160 running game, which was kind of his mo from his 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.280 coaching days previous to the Dallas Cowboys and then including 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.680 last year, even though you know he said he was 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.799 butting heads with McCarthy as far as running the ball. 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.480 But you've seen it time and time again where they've 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.400 kind of leaned back on the run game, which is 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.240 unfortunate because the run game looks so good at times, 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.719 there's just not a lot of balance there. And I've 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.560 been very critical of red zone situations where he just 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.360 leans on the passing game a little too much. And 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.680 it just basically is, you know, it's not hard for 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.320 the opposing defense to identify what Dallas is going to 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.399 do in the red zone. If we know what they're 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.080 going to do in the red zone, it's gonna be 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.080 a play action pass and say you know, like you 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.360 just know, yeah, it's gonna be a bootleg. You know 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.279 exactly what he's gonna do. I feel like there's not 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.719 a lot of I don't want to say lack of creativity. 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.279 I don't think he's been put in situations enough to 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.480 where he can get in a groove offensive. 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.040 I have a theory. First of all, let me say this, 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.920 shouts out to my niece Deem. She is watching. 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.960 The kids are out of school right now, so the kids, 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.280 my nieces and nephews, they don't. 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.279 Often get to watch talking Cowboys cool. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.439 And my wife just told me that my niece dim 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.160 is back in Atlanta watching the show. So it shouts 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.960 out absolutely at now it's my Paddycake. 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:51.799 I love my Patty Cake. 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.840 But my theory is. 0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:00.960 Follow the chronology here. Okay, the Cowboy offense was high 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.520 powered for several weeks. Yes, it was at a certain 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.640 point when the defense. When they realized that the defense 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.320 was just abysmal, one of the or the worst in 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:11.080 the league. 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.520 Say trash. 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:19.960 That's when Brian Schottenheimer began spending more time with the 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:25.680 defensive coordinator in meetings. Right, My theory is, and from 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.560 that point forward the offense looked a bit disjointed over 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.440 what it was weeks prior. My working theory is that 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.000 once the offensive coordinator, who also wears the heat of 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.960 head coach, had to then become the principal to what 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.000 was going on in the back of the class, it 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.719 took away from what happened with the offensive side. I 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.680 say that to say, I wonder and something that we 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:53.479 never have an answer. 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.320 He was torn between being a head coach and the offense. 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.400 I wonder if him being being forced to be the 0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.839 head coach as far as checking in constantly and having 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.800 these extra meetings with their defensive coordinator to get that 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.880 side of the ball correct, if it cost the explosiveness 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.480 on the offensive side of the ball. So I agree, 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.080 I don't think he evolved as a play caller, But 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.560 I personally, I don't think he evolved as a play 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.160 caller because he had to constantly keep going into the 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:27.520 defensive coordinator's classroom and standing there, we all remember, we've 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.240 all been in class before, and we've had some disruptive classes. 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.960 Sometimes we've been the culprit of said disruptive class. And 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:34.880 then you have like the vice principal or the principal 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.040 don't mind me, Yeah, just come and stand at the 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.200 door and just monetor it well while the. 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:43.360 Pun announcement wanting to show presence, and while they're shore 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.560 and while they're showing presence, that's taking away time from 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:48.719 something else that they could and should be doing. 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.920 Right, working theory, it is, and that's what happens when 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:53.600 you're a head coach. 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.560 So here's here's the thing though, Right, if you have 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:03.440 a defensive coordinator that you can holly trust to handle everything, 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.760 and your defense is playing as it should be playing, 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:07.759 you don't need to go. 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:08.319 In that room. 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.600 You can continue to focus on the offensive side of 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.520 the ball. That's all I'm saying. 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.640 Well, you're the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. You're 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.719 overseeing all things. Yep, maybe that's just a part of 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:19.080 the gig. 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.000 So you know, it is a luxury, but it's a 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.120 part of the conversation that needs to be had on 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.640 if you're going to move on from Mattiebraflues well, because 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.719 if it's taking away from the evolution of the offense 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.320 and now it's a double whammy. 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.759 Two things there, one as a head coach, and I'm 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.239 interested to hear your thoughts on this, Isaiah. If you're 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.200 a head coach, you got to oversee everybody, which is 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.759 why it's important to have solid coordinator hires. One of 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.960 them has already been talked about in Matt Eberflus. At 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.440 what point, I don't think you're talking about job security 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.840 or anything with Clayton Adams, but one thing that he 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.440 was brought in to do was to revamp your offensive 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.680 line that hasn't necessarily played to fruition, mostly because of 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.719 health or whatever you want I want to chalk it 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.160 up to. At some point as the head coach, you 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.200 need to have confidence and trust in your guys in 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:14.319 Clayton Adams, Matt Eberflus, Nick Sorenson, and it doesn't feel 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.759 like there's that cohesion that you anticipated going in. 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:17.279 I agree. 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:18.759 I would say this real quickly. I'm gonna throw but 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:23.440 this real quick. Someone in chat said me saying, stating 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.879 the obvious of him. Spending time on the defensive side 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.719 of the ball is an excuse, No, it's not. If 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.200 you're supposed to be cooking dinner and the kids are 0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.759 acting up in the background, and you constantly have to 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.080 go checking on the kids, if that causes you to 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.800 accidentally burn dinner, it's not an excuse, it's a reason. 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.279 There's a difference between an excuse and a reason. 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:40.920 That's what I'm saying. 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:41.439 Your thoughts. 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.839 Uh, So, we had this discussion where we're talking about 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:52.280 potential head coaches, and I personally I am not necessarily 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.840 the biggest fan of coaches that are in charge of 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.880 the offense or the defense. I come from the cloth 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.520 where I believe that they should be fully aware and 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.319 knowledgeable and maybe even capable of calling plays on either 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.120 or side. But I don't think that they should be 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:09.880 calling plays on that side. 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:11.360 Reason. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.400 This is being an example as to why, because some 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.880 of the more successful teams that I've personally been on, 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.160 those coaches were. 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.359 Leaders of men. That was their primary job. 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:28.360 The head coach was the leader of men, capable of 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.800 calling plays, but have somebody in position to call the place. Therefore, 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.920 I can go to the offensive meeting rooms. I can 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.640 go to the special teams meaning room, I can go 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:37.719 to the defensive meeting rooms and I can. I can, 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.960 I could, I could sit back and I could look, 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.360 I can I can observe, and I can take notes, 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.080 and I could be aware of the discussions that are 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.160 taking place, so I don't have to go off of hearsay. 0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.479 When I'm in a position where I am. 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.439 In charge of one unit, I have to now pull 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:57.600 double duty and I cannot fully be invested in anything 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.600 that's outside of the fact that I have to be 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.319 responsible for calling plays. I don't know what you're talking 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.640 about on the defensive side, Kyle, because I'm going off 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.600 of what you're telling me, or I'm going off what 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:08.880 the players are communicating to me. 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.319 I don't truly need as many meetings and as many 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.320 communications as you can have from one person to the 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.400 next among the entire staff. 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:17.840 It's still not going to be the same as you 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:18.400 seeing it. 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.400 Yourself, unless unless you have a defensive coordinator that you 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.440 can trust wholeheart, agreed with one. 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.480 Which is a luxury exactly. Which is a luxury, and 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.399 it's not an expectation, it's a luxury. 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:34.319 Exactly right, So I mean again, it is what it is, right, 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.919 Shoty calls the plays offensively and he's a head coach. 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.759 So yes, he got pulled away from I don't want 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.160 to say got pulled away from it. He had the 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.879 responsibility and it was necessary for him to start overseeing 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.279 what was going on in those defensive meeting rooms because 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.799 of the lack of productivity. Now, did it pull him away, Yeah, 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.279 but that's what happens. There's only so much of a 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.000 piece of a pie. 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:55.440 Right. 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.879 You can't just have a whole pie on offense when 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.920 you got somebody over here that to eat too, right, 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.680 So I have to go spend some time over here, 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.640 and that's going to take away from that exactly. But 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.560 that doesn't to mean that still is not an excuse 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:12.319 as to why this offense didn't that offense still stay 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.239 the course, right, they put up numbers. Let's not let's 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.040 not act like this we're disappointed, just talked about it 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.560 thing these guys. Yes, let's not. Let's not act like 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.520 these guys didn't do amazing things with shoddy even splitting 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.160 duties that. 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.479 They weren't perfect the entire sites. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.200 There's certain things that I'm sure that he's going to 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:29.520 go back and evaluate and want to criticize and change 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.319 about his play calling, the red zone, running the ball, 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.040 the commitments are running the ball, you know, I'm I'm 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.279 I am almost certain that he took it, takes it 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.200 as a personal challenge that for two to three weeks 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.520 George Piggins went away because of the double teams. 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:44.759 Well, whose responsibility is that? 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.920 As coaches responsibility don't allow him to be in a 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.279 position where he can get double team So that's a challenge, right, 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.920 And I believe that Coachhatti is of the mindset where 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.600 he's going to go back be analytical about it. Watch 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.640 his film, like dang, I have to be better here 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.759 to make sure that my guys can't get double teamed. 0:45:58.920 --> 0:45:59.080 Yeah. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.360 So the question was at the beginning of the segment, 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.480 do you feel like he's evolved as a play call evolution? 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.840 No, I think that he became more predictable as the 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.600 year went on for what reason, I don't know. But again, 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.719 I don't foresee him going back to back years with 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.040 that same issue. 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:17.359 Yeah, I don't. 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.160 I think he's that type of coach where he will 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.160 go back and be like, ah, I have to be 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.200 better here because it's not the players. George didn't fall out, 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.000 He didn't start dropping balls. CD dropped balls early on 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.000 and he figured it out right. Jervonte Williams didn't start 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.239 fumbling all of a sudden, right, It was just we 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.799 didn't commit to the run and I allowed my guys 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:35.520 to be double teamed. 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:35.839 Yeah. 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.759 Yeah, and we didn't come right on four down. Well, 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.080 we've already talked to what was that. 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:41.880 What's your thought on that. Did he evolve as a 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:42.279 play caller? 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.520 No, but I also don't know if it was entirely 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:47.120 on him. 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.400 We just talked about the way that the defense hindered 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.640 some of that growth and how that happened, and then 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.719 the offensive line too. There were times where I feel 0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.440 like Shody's play calling was conservative to protect himself from 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.880 the offense of B line not playing well there, and 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:02.680 there were times. 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:03.960 Where you have to make adjustment. They had to. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.000 They were able to grip it and rip it early 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.040 in the season because you were confident that the five 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.200 guys up front were going to block for Dak Prescott 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.680 long enough to where they could have a play develop 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.400 and they could have the scheme start playing into it. 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.760 So no, I don't think he did about or evolve. 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.279 But I also think there were outside factors in this 0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.759 whole thing that contributed to that. 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:25.239 But he was still dominant. Let's not. 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.399 Let's not just because evolution means that your any question 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.759 was he was still dominant. Yes, as a play caller. 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.160 Let's give him one of the best offenses in football. 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.160 One of the best offenses in football. 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.600 But you can't have the disparity from being one of 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.040 the best offenses in arguably the best the worst defense. 0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.000 That just means your men, Yeah, that's where they are. 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.880 Two games under five hundred at this point. Appreciate you 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.000 joining us. We will be back tomorrow our final. 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.040 Show of the week. It is a holiday week. 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:53.680 It's one of those weird ones where we're gonna have 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.560 to say it with chess Tuesday tomorrow. 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