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Speaker 1: Here Pascot tistdown.

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Speaker 2: And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Hey their Cowboys Nation. The Cowboys fall to the Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers thirty four No Good, thirty four to seventeen,

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Speaker 3: the final score from AT and T Stadium.

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Speaker 5: Welcome into Talking Cowboys. It is a holiday week, so

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Speaker 5: we're gonna try our best to cheer you up. Now

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Speaker 5: we're not We're not gonna try and cheer you up.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna just talk.

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Speaker 3: About what happened over the course of that football game.

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Speaker 5: In Week sixteen, the Cowboys fall to six eight and one.

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Speaker 3: This music is very kind to sitting sending to what

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Speaker 3: the tone should be for this show for Patrick No

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Speaker 3: C Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the

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Speaker 3: back of Kyle Yellmans.

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Speaker 5: Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented.

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Speaker 3: By Live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the

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Speaker 3: SWBC studios. Yeah, not the game that the Cowboys certainly wanted.

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Speaker 3: Of course, in between the time of our final show

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Speaker 3: on Say It with You Chest Friday into this Monday,

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Speaker 3: it ends up being an elimination for the Cowboys as

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Speaker 3: well as the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Garnet took down the Commanders. It was a part of

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Speaker 5: what we anticipated.

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Speaker 3: However, Yeah, it's now official, and it became even more

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Speaker 3: official whenever they.

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Speaker 5: Lost later on. So there's a lot of.

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Speaker 3: A lot of disappointment I think around the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five season when it comes to the Cowboys and the

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Speaker 3: talent and.

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Speaker 5: How they were, they were, how they played yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But I'll start with you Patrick, you were in the building,

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on how it went down against the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Once again, the Cowboys are the g RG, the get

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Speaker 6: right game, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: So we said it last week.

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Speaker 6: Josh pointed it out as a contrary point to yours, Kyle,

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Speaker 6: when you were just thrown out the stats, saying that

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Speaker 6: the offensive line for the Los Angeles Chargers basically were

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Speaker 6: one of the worst in the league as far as

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Speaker 7: Injuries on the line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and your.

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Speaker 6: Counterpoint was that, well, the Cowboys can't get after the

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Speaker 6: up to the quarterback, So which one of these things

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Speaker 6: is going to out bad the other thing? And I

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Speaker 6: said on Friday, I think the Cowboys' lack of pass

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Speaker 6: I think that Justin Herbert is going to stay clean

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Speaker 6: for a good bit of the game. Well, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 6: was not sacked for the first time this entire season.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys did not sack Justin Herbert a single time. He

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Speaker 6: had his way back there. He was back there playing

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Speaker 6: Madden basically, and from there so the game went. Cowboys

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Speaker 6: these last two weeks have figured out the inability to

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Speaker 6: have a fast start offensively. They figured that out, but

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Speaker 6: no burd It seems like that's the theme with this

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Speaker 6: else is going wrong to wash it out. And that's

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Speaker 6: what happened again on yesterday. Shouts out to you know

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Speaker 6: that Dyke tried to push through. George Pickens had a

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Speaker 6: a fifth consecutive season despite having missed several games, so

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Speaker 6: you know, there was some bright spots. Yafonte, he did

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Speaker 6: And note Ryan Flinoy with a knee and the Marvin

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Speaker 6: on Christmas Day. Just put that out there right now.

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Speaker 6: But for the most part, I mean, the defense was

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Speaker 7: But I was told that having Matt Eberflus up in

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Speaker 7: did not see any indication of a change on defense. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: this looked to be like one of the worst performances

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Speaker 7: like we were just talking about the Dallas Cowboys defense

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Speaker 7: just can't get right. That's their nickname the season. In

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Speaker 7: another situation where the offense has to play a perfect

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Speaker 7: In the game period did in.

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Speaker 5: The first half for the most part, it.

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Speaker 7: Looked good, and then an unfortunate holding call, which was

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Speaker 7: kind of iffy on my part, permitted Ryan Filoy's second

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Speaker 1: It was tiki tech, but it was the right call.

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Speaker 1: I hate to him.

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Speaker 7: I disagree Patrick.

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Speaker 1: You can't hold they and turn him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and if you let that go a split

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Speaker 6: also if you don't hold him at all, it doesn't

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Speaker 6: affect the play if you look at the time and

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Speaker 3: Well, and Isaiah said in real time, he said, Dak

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Speaker 3: didn't necessarily help out there because he went into the pressure.

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Speaker 3: Not that Dak knows, but he went into the pressure

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Speaker 1: It was Tiki tech, but it was not a bad call.

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Speaker 7: I really don't want to I mean, granted that the

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Speaker 7: and had them in a lot of fourth down situations

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Speaker 7: which Cowboys did not convert on. There was just some

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Speaker 7: But more so than not, the fact that you weren't

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Speaker 7: just to me, it just is more of the same.

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Speaker 7: And talked about him going up to the booth and

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Speaker 7: You simply didn't see it. It was just more of

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Speaker 1: Their offense scoring against our defense six of eight times.

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Speaker 7: Easily, six scoring drives of eight.

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Speaker 8: Drives, eight total possessions.

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Speaker 7: Wow, that seems like a lot, Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good percentage. But second half the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Second half the Cowboys possessions. But turtle run downs, turnle

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Speaker 7: That doesn't seem good either, GB not good.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't do anything offensively. You had a good start offensively,

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Speaker 1: you had a good start defensively, it wasn't wasn't great

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Speaker 1: at all. Obviously it was not all just Eberflus. I know,

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Speaker 1: There were times where he got out schemed. There was

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Speaker 1: times where he called man and we got beat Yep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. So, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: to not handling their assignments as well. So just bad man,

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Speaker 8: Is frustrated me.

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Speaker 1: Over the last probably five games now, they just have

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Speaker 1: not whatever reason. They just said, all right, do you

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Speaker 1: want to tell you? Yeah, we know you were top

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Speaker 1: five for a while, but we're gonna throw this thing around. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like they weren't getting stopped on the run.

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Speaker 1: They just stopped giving it to him. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's frustrating, And I mentioned Kyle and the

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Speaker 6: And yeah, Shunnon Hummer's not off the hook on this

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Speaker 6: one either. They got off to a fast start, which

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Speaker 6: was great. Unfortunately you had like the holding penalty which

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Speaker 6: ended up negating would have been Flinnoy's second touchdown. So

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Speaker 6: for the most part, first couple of offensive drives, holding

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Speaker 6: like a few of those calls, example being like fourth

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Speaker 6: key in that situation, Kyle tweeted, and I jumped right

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Speaker 6: on that tweet. You're like, might as well QB sneaky

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Speaker 1: I'll never understand, that says.

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Speaker 6: But then there was another particular drive where you had

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Speaker 6: two errant passes from Dak Prescott, which it looks like

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Speaker 6: it was a miscommunication between him and the receiver. One

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Speaker 6: other was, yeah, I think it was too turping stopped. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's what I mean, like there was a miscommunication there, a.

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Speaker 8: Miscommunication turban Stock. He just didn't run roun.

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Speaker 1: He just stopped running his route because Dak Prescott from

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Speaker 1: again not understanding, not knowing, I this is me just speculating, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not knowing what throughout what that was called. But it

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Speaker 1: looks as if he was responsible for taking the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field open terp. It happens at times where

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Speaker 1: receivers running their route and they're like, ah, I can't

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Speaker 8: So they just throttle down.

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Speaker 7: He's not throwing me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not throwing it to me, right because there's

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Speaker 1: a guy right here. He's not throwing it to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shut my route down right now. Dak was like,

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Speaker 1: you're cavarante freaking turpin. Yeah, get past this guy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that from what I perceived, that was the miscommunication, Like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 1: why are you stopping like you're one of the fastest

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Speaker 1: cats in the league, don't stop running.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that would track because in real time it was

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Speaker 6: such such a broken play that you would think that

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Speaker 6: Dak was assuming this route will be ran and the

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Speaker 6: player did not run the route, which is basically what

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Speaker 6: you're saying. But you're saying it wasn't because you don't

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Speaker 6: believe it was because Cavante Turpin thought he was supposed

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Speaker 6: to run and out. It was because Cavante Turpin. It's

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Speaker 6: not coming to me. I'm shutting up, yep, which is horrible.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so the offense is not not excused from

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Speaker 6: the loss at all when you only get seventeen points

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Speaker 6: but fast start, slow finish, and the Cowboys defense just

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Speaker 5: You didn't get exact the second half.

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Speaker 5: But they've had to be perfect, and they almost were

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Speaker 3: They scored on all three of their full possessions in

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Speaker 5: That's the only difference in the entire first half.

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Speaker 3: Touch a bunch, but you can't expect that to happen

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Speaker 5: Of hearing, but it's so true.

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Speaker 7: It's what good teams do.

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Speaker 3: That's what good teams do. I mean, look at what

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why they're twelve and four. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And that's where I feel like yesterday came into fruition.

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Speaker 3: It looked like a team that had nothing to play for.

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Speaker 8: I think you saw it for a half.

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Speaker 7: But to kind of contend or just to compliment what

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Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys sort of gave up in that aspect.

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Speaker 7: They warned that they were worn down. I don't want

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Speaker 7: How physical the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: They did look like, for the most part, a team

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Speaker 6: When they had an opportunity to continue to apply pressure

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Speaker 1: So's it literally, like I hate to say that because

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds terrible, but it has been consistent,

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Speaker 7: That's our identity is it really has been.

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Speaker 1: It really has been based upon the personnel that you

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Speaker 1: they're bigger than you, right, and they and they're willing

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Speaker 8: You struggle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to I want to do a little

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Speaker 3: football team than the Cowboys? Not necessarily in the game,

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Speaker 3: but just think about the roster, right, Eagles, Yes, yeah

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Speaker 3: this year. Absolutely, Panthers, Yes, they did that day.

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Speaker 5: They were definitely that day. The Broncos.

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Speaker 7: They didn't buckle up that game.

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Speaker 8: Broncos, absolutely, absolutely the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: The one I could probably contend would probably be the Cardinals,

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Speaker 5: They just kind of got you that day. Lions, Vikings they.

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Speaker 7: Fitted off the line though the Cardinals did.

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Speaker 3: And I think the final three games you've been out

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Speaker 5: And it takes me back to what year.

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Speaker 3: Was that twenty twenty two when Dallas maybe twenty one

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Speaker 5: And what did they do that offseason? They said, we're

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Speaker 3: How tough we are up front and their first round

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Speaker 3: You got that one, right, So is that going to

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Speaker 5: You've got some speed, you've got some skill, You've got

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to retain a couple of guys that

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Speaker 7: Oh, you have so much finesse, you have the skill

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Speaker 7: there like it's just it's flashy, but it's not. There's

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Speaker 6: I think the problem is is that you don't have

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Speaker 6: and it's not even the notck to a guy like Easy.

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Speaker 1: Easy is more of a finess guy.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, they're trying to like said, they're trying

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Speaker 6: to fit him as a demarkets Horns, but that he's not.

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Speaker 8: In their mind. And this is my thought.

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Speaker 1: I think that they believe that Sam Williams is going

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Speaker 7: Maybe they thought about one thought.

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Speaker 1: They thought so because he has that he has that mentality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just just doesn't right.

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Speaker 6: So defensive interior, check and check super physical.

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Speaker 1: Great, that's all for now. In the future, your edges

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Speaker 6: Linebackers Nope, you don't have physicality at the linebacker court

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Speaker 1: He's physical, but he's always been asked to do what

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Speaker 6: So from a defensive side of the ball, the only

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Your defensive line or defensive tackles. I should say, offensively speaking,

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Speaker 6: you got to figure out your offensive line. You got

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Speaker 6: to figure it out. You got Tyler Smith check that box.

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Speaker 6: Outside of Tyler Booker, yeah, I like what you got too,

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Speaker 6: super physical interior linemen. We'll see if BB can take

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Speaker 6: the next thing, we'll see. But the two Tyler's Booker

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Speaker 1: We'll see. But my point being, they have too many spots.

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Speaker 6: Where that we got dogs, horses that will punch you

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Speaker 6: And until you figure that out, you're gonna keep getting off.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's because of the culture that they're

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Speaker 8: Explain the locker room culture.

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes when coaches and organizations are trying to get a.

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Speaker 8: Team that is it's the best way of saying that some.

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Speaker 1: You need, some goons, you need some guys that you

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Speaker 1: they don't necessarily always maybe they don't always.

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Speaker 8: Fall on line right, Like every team needs those guys.

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Speaker 8: Receiver you want to go, yeah, you got one a receiver.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying so, I wonder this is not an

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is mentality, the facts, absolute fact.

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Speaker 3: It could go one way or the other, but I

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Speaker 3: down to what it is now. And you're two games

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Speaker 3: under five hundred, you're out of playoff picture, entirely, completely

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Speaker 3: eliminated from contention with three games to go. There's a

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Speaker 3: out into your third game generally. So with all that

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, wee all underachieved.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly how it goes, all right, when we come back,

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Speaker 3: You guys mentioned a couple different pieces there. Where do

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Speaker 5: For the Dallas Cowboys. Where do you start?

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Speaker 3: Because there are multiple spots to try and up in

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent.

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Speaker 6: You have some great talent, and they got some fight

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Speaker 3: here on Talking Cowboys. I saw a stat yesterday that.

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Speaker 5: I think sums up kind of what we were talking

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Speaker 5: about in the first segment there.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys have a four thousand yard passer yep two

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Speaker 3: one thousand yard receivers Seedie Lamb and George Pickens and

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Speaker 3: the one thousand yard rusher and Javonte Williams, and yet

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Speaker 3: they were eliminated from playoff contention with three games to go.

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Speaker 5: So all of that to be said, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to point to the defense. And

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Speaker 3: everybody knows this. Everybody's watched this. If you've even listened

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Speaker 3: to a smidgeon of talking Cowboys over the course of

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Speaker 3: the season, you would know the defense has been abysmal.

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Speaker 5: At different times, I thought he was gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: You want it today?

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Speaker 7: The defenserash.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not as good at it. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Where do you start when we go into this offseason.

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Speaker 3: We just talked about physicality, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 3: a number one trait that you need. But I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: more position groups here.

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Speaker 5: Do you start in the secondary? Do you start in

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Speaker 5: the passer? Uh, You've already revamped the interior, so I

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Speaker 5: think you're set moving forward, unless do you want another

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Speaker 5: dtackle Isaiah?

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Speaker 8: Nope?

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so I got that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got three. I got two monsters making before. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Sally's under contract next year too.

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Speaker 8: That's good.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen him recently, that's fair. But where do

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Speaker 5: you start.

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Speaker 6: I'm always going to be built front to back. You

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Speaker 6: have your defensive tackle position solved. Solve your defensive end,

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Speaker 6: I have to You have to get a pass rush.

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Speaker 6: You have no choice because without the pass rush, just no.

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Speaker 7: Just a question. If you're solving your defensive end, are

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Speaker 7: you going to take a chance with one of your

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Speaker 7: first round picks or are you going to attack free agency?

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Speaker 1: I would like to attack free agency, but first I

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Speaker 1: want to see who's available.

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Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, right, and we can talk about there's

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Speaker 3: one name that is going to be available.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't say, and you can't say yeah.

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Speaker 3: But she's under contract this year and there was interest

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Speaker 3: in him going into the trade deadline in this franchise.

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Speaker 6: And I would say, even if you acquire that individual,

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Speaker 6: you still attack it in the draft. You got two

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Speaker 6: first round picks. So for me, my two first round

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Speaker 6: picks are going to be on the defensive side of

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Speaker 6: the ball. One is going to be defensive end, the

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Speaker 6: other is going to be linebacker.

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Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. Again, I'm building front

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Speaker 1: to back.

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Speaker 6: The marioon overshowing his back he's your centerpiece at the

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Speaker 6: linebacker position. But you don't know if they're going to

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Speaker 6: stick stick with theebrafluse. If they do stick with ebraflues,

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Speaker 6: that's probably going to keep Marris Leafile still clamped.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: What does that mean for Lamar James? He's going to

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Speaker 6: be more unleash. Does he take the step forward?

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Speaker 1: Things like that?

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Speaker 6: So the only player in the linebacker you that I'm

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Speaker 6: confident with going forward and you still have to put

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Speaker 6: an asterisk on that because he has to remain available,

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Speaker 6: which is the Marion overshown. So I'm not overlooking linebacker.

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Speaker 6: And I think Kyle, you posed this question a few

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Speaker 6: weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, saying which positions

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Speaker 6: do we want to address in the draft with the

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Speaker 6: two first round Yeah, that was after the Mini buy. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: defensive end and linebacker. Those are my two first round picks,

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Speaker 6: regardless of what I do in free agency. But also,

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Speaker 6: go get something in free agency? Where are you getting

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Speaker 6: a corner from? So no, no, no, no, I get

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Speaker 6: what he's saying, because the first thing popped in my mind.

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Speaker 6: The first thing popped in my mind was Okay, well

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Speaker 6: you need a corner. Yeah, but you know, what helps

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Speaker 6: corners I cover. I don't disagree, however, is Sacks and

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Speaker 6: Agreeb's running.

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Speaker 1: For them for the.

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Speaker 8: Who are your starting quarters next year?

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Speaker 1: Oh know, you got to figure that out. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you have an answer.

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Speaker 8: They don't even have one person.

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Speaker 1: They don't don't have an answer. There's gonna be healthy

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs most likely won't be here, right you know

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Speaker 1: who's your starters where they're gonna look, They're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at some not like we haven't physical but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: had a full off season.

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Speaker 8: That's not And I'm just going off for what I

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Speaker 1: You're right, I don't have confidence in mind that he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a starter yet, but you have to

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Speaker 1: hope that he gets.

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Speaker 8: The answer, gets back to what he was.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I get what you're saying, but the answer to

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Speaker 6: your question has to also be answered through the perf

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Speaker 6: of upstairs. So it's it's less about well, what would

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Speaker 6: no Seed do? Okay, I know what No he would do?

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Speaker 6: But I'm telling you that they're going to look at

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Speaker 6: it as if one revel as a starter. Ron Black

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Speaker 6: darn Bland is going to be back healthy.

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Speaker 1: He is Black is going to be back healthy, and

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Speaker 1: then you kind of go from there. So you're not wrong.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't even have to say it, but I'll say

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Speaker 6: it anyway. You are in dire straits at cornerback, but

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Speaker 6: you're also in dire straits at input.

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Speaker 7: You could argue every position aside from but.

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Speaker 6: If you if you build backwards to forward, you're still

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Speaker 6: not pressuring the quarterback. You're still not getting linebackers who

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Speaker 6: can have run fit correct run fits, so you're giving

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Speaker 6: up yards on the ground as well. So then it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: the corners are covering, but the windows are expanded and

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Speaker 6: now they have to help and run support.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but then I go from

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Speaker 1: your point. Then I say what positions are harder to acquire?

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Speaker 7: Corner corner so like. But but then again, I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be sold on a from linebacker because I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that I trust his team's evaluation of

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Speaker 7: linebackers in the draft, and I think, granted you you

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Speaker 7: you got overshown, Granted you have overshown, but there I mean, still,

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Speaker 7: even when he has been out there over the last

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Speaker 7: few weeks healthy, it hasn't been so excellent.

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Speaker 6: Let's say this counterpoint to that is they actually scout

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Speaker 6: linebackers really well and on day one and like day two,

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Speaker 6: but they have their snake bit right, so it's the

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Speaker 6: availability issue. So Leighton vandersh was a hit coming right

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Speaker 6: out right, Sean Lee was a hit for a good

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Speaker 6: bit of his career, but injury, so they can hit

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Speaker 6: on an off ball linebacker.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Michael so we're and ma right, and and

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Speaker 1: to Mario on overshowing.

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Speaker 6: So as far as scouting the ability of an off

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Speaker 6: ball linebacker, they're actually really damn good at that. But

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Speaker 6: they tend to be snake bitting and getting these extremely

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Speaker 6: talented linebackers that then have availability issues.

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Speaker 7: But isn't that part of evaluation, I think making sure

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Speaker 7: these players are you can't available.

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Speaker 6: The only one that was predictable, I hate to say

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Speaker 6: it that way, but the only one that had the

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Speaker 6: red flags that were inexcusable was l.

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Speaker 1: V E and Smith Jalus Smith. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: They did get him back on the field, but so

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Speaker 6: for the most part, and I won't excuse that because

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Speaker 6: you know, lvy E had nick issues coming out of

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Speaker 6: Boise State.

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Speaker 1: You were the you know, the the medical team that

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Speaker 1: injuries coming in. Yeah, so those two had those two

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Speaker 1: issues coming in, and the moon Clark had issues coming in.

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Speaker 3: Overshown had some injury flags at Texas too, did he Yeah.

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Speaker 5: To the extent that you would think, because you can't predict,

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Speaker 5: he definitely had some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. His is just a team is more. And I

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Speaker 1: look at it from this perspective. If I don't, if

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Speaker 1: I can't grab it in the draft, can I grab

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Speaker 1: it in free agency? Or can I trade for it?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Teams are less willing to trade really good corners. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're just not getting rid of them.

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Speaker 7: Right, I think when you but if you are, you're

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Speaker 7: paying a really high price.

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Speaker 8: Oh he goes quarterback, offensive tackle, defensive in freaking corner.

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Speaker 5: Look at the price that the Colts paid for Sas Gardner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean not that Dallas would do anything like that

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Speaker 3: to go get a corner, but just look at the

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Speaker 3: price tag because even a step below that is still

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Speaker 3: going to cost you. And I think if you're going

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Speaker 3: to draft a linebacker, it's got to be a dude

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Speaker 3: that you expect to be a two names part of

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Speaker 3: your team for ten years. One of them Jacob Rodriguez

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Speaker 3: at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: Three names, Okay, okay, so you got you got one,

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Speaker 6: Sonny one, and ce J Allen is the other. Those

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Speaker 6: are three guys that I would use a first round

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Speaker 6: pick on. And I think because you have two first

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Speaker 6: round picks and I've seen you have success in hell cornerback.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about cornerback before the latest Tradlon.

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Speaker 6: Let's not have recency bias. So we know everything's going

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Speaker 6: on with Trevlon Diggs. He's not been playing up to

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Speaker 6: the level, injury, etcetera, etcetera. But isn't he a second

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Speaker 6: round pick? So I say that to say you would

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Speaker 6: like to believe that you could find all these a

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Speaker 6: lottery picks. You never know, But if you found Trevon

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Speaker 6: Diggs in the second round, then you can find another Trayvon.

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Speaker 5: You don't have a second round pick, That's right, you don't.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying you. You don't have any room

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Speaker 5: to operate when it comes to your first two round picks.

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Speaker 5: That's great. I love the fact that they have two

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Speaker 5: first round picks, but you don't have a second.

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Speaker 7: But they have to hit, and you got you gotta

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Speaker 7: hit both of them. Both of them have to be

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Speaker 7: both have to be Day one.

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Speaker 6: Start off, las your remind of me, we don't have

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Speaker 6: a second round pick, So get a second round pick.

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Speaker 5: How would you do it?

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Speaker 6: Package something? You're going to get some does it look

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Speaker 6: like right now in terms of where you're gonna get.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna get some compicks that you can package. You

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Speaker 6: take those and maybe you're throwing something from twenty seven.

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Speaker 5: Your comp picks aren't gonna get your back in.

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Speaker 1: No, no second package package.

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Speaker 5: Who are you packaging?

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Speaker 1: Who? I didn't say who? I'm just who are you

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Speaker 1: thinking about?

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Speaker 3: That's what it's going to take. You don't have the

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Speaker 3: draft capital said no, you can draft. You can go

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Speaker 3: back if you wanted to trade your first round one

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Speaker 3: of your two first rounds to go back.

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Speaker 1: Pull from the future is what I'm saying. Pull from

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Speaker 1: the future.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the Cowboys are sitting at thirteenth overall with

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Speaker 3: their pick, and then green Bay with their most recent loss.

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Speaker 3: They are projected to link in the wild wild card round.

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Speaker 3: They would be twenty.

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Speaker 1: One thirteen to twenty one thirteen in projection.

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Speaker 3: Projection because green Bay is going to make the playoffs

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Speaker 3: more than likely and if they make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Where they end up is going to determine.

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Speaker 1: How you're and I'm.

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Speaker 6: I would not be upset at one of those picks

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Speaker 6: being in cornerback. Let me be clear, I would not

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Speaker 6: be upset at it. But if you ask me to choose,

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Speaker 6: I need a pass rush, especially somebody opposite as Roku.

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Speaker 3: You also don't have a third round pick, by the way,

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Speaker 3: I forgot to say, yeah, no, day two picks periods good.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a long day for us in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Unless you start from twenty seven to twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: But I need somebody to complement Ezraku so that you

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Speaker 6: can take Zraku out of that DeMarcus Lawrence fit and

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Speaker 6: get him back to a DeMarcus where and I need

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Speaker 6: I need linebacker core solved, and then you know, look

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Speaker 6: at the cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: But I just I can't build front to back. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm back to front. I can't build front

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Speaker 6: the back. My brain just doesn't. My football brain doesn't

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Speaker 6: work that way.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, all of that being said, uh, what

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Speaker 7: we've kind of speculated about too, is that you may

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Speaker 7: have one of those picks go to another yet another

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Speaker 7: offensive Lineman.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, so we talked about that.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that when we come back. I want

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Speaker 3: they are not without blaming the thirty four to seventeen

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Speaker 3: loss to the Los Angeles Chargers. What went wrong on

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Speaker 3: Chrispyam in the back of Kyle Yeomans. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of craziness in the chat today. I'm just kind of monitoring,

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Speaker 3: just kind of no, no, it's fine. I think it's fine,

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Speaker 3: and everybody's entitled to their own opinion. But I did

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Speaker 3: see this really good question and it does play into

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Speaker 3: what was going to go into this break, So I

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Speaker 3: want to give credit where credit is due, Dalton asked.

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Speaker 3: He said, do you believe Brian Schottenheimer has evolved as

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Speaker 3: a play caller as.

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Speaker 5: The season has gone on.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like he's evolved in his play calling, because,

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Speaker 3: like we said, going into the break, got to talk

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Speaker 3: about the offense. We'll get to the offensive line in

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Speaker 3: a minute. But I just saw that question.

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Speaker 5: I think it's too good to pass.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't think he's evolved as a play caller.

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Speaker 7: I think he is a really good coach. I think

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Speaker 7: he's a good leader. But for me, time and time again,

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Speaker 7: you've been in situations we just talked about at the

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Speaker 7: top of the show where he's gotten away from the

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Speaker 7: running game, which was kind of his mo from his

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Speaker 7: coaching days previous to the Dallas Cowboys and then including

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Speaker 7: last year, even though you know he said he was

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Speaker 7: butting heads with McCarthy as far as running the ball.

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Speaker 7: But you've seen it time and time again where they've

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Speaker 7: kind of leaned back on the run game, which is

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Speaker 7: unfortunate because the run game looks so good at times,

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Speaker 7: there's just not a lot of balance there. And I've

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Speaker 7: been very critical of red zone situations where he just

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Speaker 7: leans on the passing game a little too much. And

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Speaker 7: it just basically is, you know, it's not hard for

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Speaker 7: the opposing defense to identify what Dallas is going to

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Speaker 7: do in the red zone. If we know what they're

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Speaker 7: going to do in the red zone, it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: a play action pass and say you know, like you

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Speaker 7: just know, yeah, it's gonna be a bootleg. You know

806
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 7: exactly what he's gonna do. I feel like there's not

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Speaker 7: a lot of I don't want to say lack of creativity.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's been put in situations enough to

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Speaker 7: where he can get in a groove offensive.

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Speaker 1: I have a theory. First of all, let me say this,

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Speaker 1: shouts out to my niece Deem. She is watching.

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Speaker 6: The kids are out of school right now, so the kids,

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Speaker 6: my nieces and nephews, they don't.

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Speaker 1: Often get to watch talking Cowboys cool.

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Speaker 6: And my wife just told me that my niece dim

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Speaker 6: is back in Atlanta watching the show. So it shouts

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Speaker 6: out absolutely at now it's my Paddycake.

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Speaker 1: I love my Patty Cake.

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Speaker 8: But my theory is.

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Speaker 6: Follow the chronology here. Okay, the Cowboy offense was high

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Speaker 6: powered for several weeks. Yes, it was at a certain

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Speaker 6: point when the defense. When they realized that the defense

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Speaker 6: was just abysmal, one of the or the worst in

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Speaker 6: the league.

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Speaker 1: Say trash.

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Speaker 6: That's when Brian Schottenheimer began spending more time with the

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinator in meetings. Right, My theory is, and from

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Speaker 6: that point forward the offense looked a bit disjointed over

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Speaker 6: what it was weeks prior. My working theory is that

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Speaker 6: once the offensive coordinator, who also wears the heat of

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Speaker 6: head coach, had to then become the principal to what

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Speaker 6: was going on in the back of the class, it

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Speaker 6: took away from what happened with the offensive side. I

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Speaker 6: say that to say, I wonder and something that we

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Speaker 6: never have an answer.

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Speaker 8: He was torn between being a head coach and the offense.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if him being being forced to be the

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Speaker 6: head coach as far as checking in constantly and having

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Speaker 6: these extra meetings with their defensive coordinator to get that

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Speaker 6: side of the ball correct, if it cost the explosiveness

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Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the ball. So I agree,

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Speaker 6: I don't think he evolved as a play caller, But

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Speaker 6: I personally, I don't think he evolved as a play

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Speaker 6: caller because he had to constantly keep going into the

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinator's classroom and standing there, we all remember, we've

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Speaker 6: all been in class before, and we've had some disruptive classes.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes we've been the culprit of said disruptive class. And

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Speaker 6: then you have like the vice principal or the principal

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Speaker 6: don't mind me, Yeah, just come and stand at the

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Speaker 6: door and just monetor it well while the.

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Speaker 3: Pun announcement wanting to show presence, and while they're shore

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Speaker 3: and while they're showing presence, that's taking away time from

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Speaker 3: something else that they could and should be doing.

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Speaker 7: Right, working theory, it is, and that's what happens when

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Speaker 7: you're a head coach.

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Speaker 6: So here's here's the thing though, Right, if you have

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Speaker 6: a defensive coordinator that you can holly trust to handle everything,

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Speaker 6: and your defense is playing as it should be playing,

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Speaker 6: you don't need to go.

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Speaker 1: In that room.

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Speaker 6: You can continue to focus on the offensive side of

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Speaker 6: the ball. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Well, you're the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. You're

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Speaker 7: overseeing all things. Yep, maybe that's just a part of

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Speaker 7: the gig.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it is a luxury, but it's a

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Speaker 6: part of the conversation that needs to be had on

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Speaker 6: if you're going to move on from Mattiebraflues well, because

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Speaker 6: if it's taking away from the evolution of the offense

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Speaker 6: and now it's a double whammy.

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Speaker 3: Two things there, one as a head coach, and I'm

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Speaker 3: interested to hear your thoughts on this, Isaiah. If you're

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Speaker 3: a head coach, you got to oversee everybody, which is

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Speaker 3: why it's important to have solid coordinator hires. One of

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Speaker 3: them has already been talked about in Matt Eberflus. At

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Speaker 3: what point, I don't think you're talking about job security

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Speaker 3: or anything with Clayton Adams, but one thing that he

878
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: was brought in to do was to revamp your offensive

879
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: line that hasn't necessarily played to fruition, mostly because of

880
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: health or whatever you want I want to chalk it

881
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: up to. At some point as the head coach, you

882
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: need to have confidence and trust in your guys in

883
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: Clayton Adams, Matt Eberflus, Nick Sorenson, and it doesn't feel

884
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: like there's that cohesion that you anticipated going in.

885
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: I agree.

886
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 6: I would say this real quickly. I'm gonna throw but

887
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 6: this real quick. Someone in chat said me saying, stating

888
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 6: the obvious of him. Spending time on the defensive side

889
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: of the ball is an excuse, No, it's not. If

890
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 6: you're supposed to be cooking dinner and the kids are

891
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 6: acting up in the background, and you constantly have to

892
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 6: go checking on the kids, if that causes you to

893
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 6: accidentally burn dinner, it's not an excuse, it's a reason.

894
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: There's a difference between an excuse and a reason.

895
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Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.

896
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Speaker 5: Your thoughts.

897
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: Uh, So, we had this discussion where we're talking about

898
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: potential head coaches, and I personally I am not necessarily

899
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: the biggest fan of coaches that are in charge of

900
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: the offense or the defense. I come from the cloth

901
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: where I believe that they should be fully aware and

902
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and maybe even capable of calling plays on either

903
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: or side. But I don't think that they should be

904
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: calling plays on that side.

905
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 8: Reason.

906
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: This is being an example as to why, because some

907
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: of the more successful teams that I've personally been on,

908
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: those coaches were.

909
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 8: Leaders of men. That was their primary job.

910
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: The head coach was the leader of men, capable of

911
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: calling plays, but have somebody in position to call the place. Therefore,

912
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: I can go to the offensive meeting rooms. I can

913
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: go to the special teams meaning room, I can go

914
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: to the defensive meeting rooms and I can. I can,

915
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: I could, I could sit back and I could look,

916
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: I can I can observe, and I can take notes,

917
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: and I could be aware of the discussions that are

918
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: taking place, so I don't have to go off of hearsay.

919
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 8: When I'm in a position where I am.

920
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: In charge of one unit, I have to now pull

921
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: double duty and I cannot fully be invested in anything

922
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: that's outside of the fact that I have to be

923
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: responsible for calling plays. I don't know what you're talking

924
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: about on the defensive side, Kyle, because I'm going off

925
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: of what you're telling me, or I'm going off what

926
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: the players are communicating to me.

927
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: I don't truly need as many meetings and as many

928
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: communications as you can have from one person to the

929
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: next among the entire staff.

930
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 5: It's still not going to be the same as you

931
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: seeing it.

932
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 7: Yourself, unless unless you have a defensive coordinator that you

933
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 7: can trust wholeheart, agreed with one.

934
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 8: Which is a luxury exactly. Which is a luxury, and

935
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 8: it's not an expectation, it's a luxury.

936
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: Exactly right, So I mean again, it is what it is, right,

937
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: Shoty calls the plays offensively and he's a head coach.

938
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: So yes, he got pulled away from I don't want

939
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: to say got pulled away from it. He had the

940
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: responsibility and it was necessary for him to start overseeing

941
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: what was going on in those defensive meeting rooms because

942
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: of the lack of productivity. Now, did it pull him away, Yeah,

943
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: but that's what happens. There's only so much of a

944
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: piece of a pie.

945
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 8: Right.

946
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: You can't just have a whole pie on offense when

947
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: you got somebody over here that to eat too, right,

948
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: So I have to go spend some time over here,

949
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: and that's going to take away from that exactly. But

950
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't to mean that still is not an excuse

951
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: as to why this offense didn't that offense still stay

952
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: the course, right, they put up numbers. Let's not let's

953
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: not act like this we're disappointed, just talked about it

954
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: thing these guys. Yes, let's not. Let's not act like

955
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: these guys didn't do amazing things with shoddy even splitting

956
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: duties that.

957
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 7: They weren't perfect the entire sites.

958
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: There's certain things that I'm sure that he's going to

959
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: go back and evaluate and want to criticize and change

960
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: about his play calling, the red zone, running the ball,

961
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: the commitments are running the ball, you know, I'm I'm

962
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: I am almost certain that he took it, takes it

963
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: as a personal challenge that for two to three weeks

964
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: George Piggins went away because of the double teams.

965
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 8: Well, whose responsibility is that?

966
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: As coaches responsibility don't allow him to be in a

967
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: position where he can get double team So that's a challenge, right,

968
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: And I believe that Coachhatti is of the mindset where

969
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: he's going to go back be analytical about it. Watch

970
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: his film, like dang, I have to be better here

971
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: to make sure that my guys can't get double teamed.

972
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

973
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: So the question was at the beginning of the segment,

974
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: do you feel like he's evolved as a play call evolution?

975
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: No, I think that he became more predictable as the

976
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: year went on for what reason, I don't know. But again,

977
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't foresee him going back to back years with

978
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that same issue.

979
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.

980
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: I think he's that type of coach where he will

981
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: go back and be like, ah, I have to be

982
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: better here because it's not the players. George didn't fall out,

983
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: He didn't start dropping balls. CD dropped balls early on

984
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: and he figured it out right. Jervonte Williams didn't start

985
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: fumbling all of a sudden, right, It was just we

986
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: didn't commit to the run and I allowed my guys

987
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: to be double teamed.

988
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

989
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we didn't come right on four down. Well,

990
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: we've already talked to what was that.

991
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 7: What's your thought on that. Did he evolve as a

992
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 7: play caller?

993
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: No, but I also don't know if it was entirely

994
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 5: on him.

995
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: We just talked about the way that the defense hindered

996
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: some of that growth and how that happened, and then

997
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: the offensive line too. There were times where I feel

998
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: like Shody's play calling was conservative to protect himself from

999
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: the offense of B line not playing well there, and

1000
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: there were times.

1001
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 8: Where you have to make adjustment. They had to.

1002
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: They were able to grip it and rip it early

1003
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: in the season because you were confident that the five

1004
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: guys up front were going to block for Dak Prescott

1005
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: long enough to where they could have a play develop

1006
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: and they could have the scheme start playing into it.

1007
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: So no, I don't think he did about or evolve.

1008
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: But I also think there were outside factors in this

1009
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: whole thing that contributed to that.

1010
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 8: But he was still dominant. Let's not.

1011
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: Let's not just because evolution means that your any question

1012
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: was he was still dominant. Yes, as a play caller.

1013
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: Let's give him one of the best offenses in football.

1014
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 8: One of the best offenses in football.

1015
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: But you can't have the disparity from being one of

1016
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: the best offenses in arguably the best the worst defense.

1017
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: That just means your men, Yeah, that's where they are.

1018
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: Two games under five hundred at this point. Appreciate you

1019
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: joining us. We will be back tomorrow our final.

1020
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Speaker 5: Show of the week. It is a holiday week.

1021
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Speaker 3: It's one of those weird ones where we're gonna have

1022
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: to say it with chess Tuesday tomorrow. We're gonna have

1023
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: some fun in this SWBC studio tomorrow, Patrick no Siwalkers.

1024
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez. Maybe if that's what you're into.

1025
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Speaker 3: Isaiah's stand back Chris Beam in the back of Kyle

1026
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeoman saying so long, We'll see you tomorrow with more

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Speaker 3: Talking Cowboys.

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