WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off August 12th, 2022 (Ep. 573) 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.400 Leading off starts right now, brought to you by Bet 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.239 MGM on Fantasy Pros. I'm Chris Welsh aka the Welsh 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:25.279 aka Little Key Lime, as we learned yesterday. Joining me 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.840 today is Chris Cleig Rode clegg Over on Fantracks. One 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.800 of my good friends, Chris. What's up, man, It's the 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.159 Chris Show. It's Chris and Chris. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.319 Yeah. I'm looking forward to us. Good to be back 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.440 on with you. We've chatted on Prospect one, You've been 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.640 on our pod on tool Shed before and in this league, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.000 so it's always good and it's always good to hang out. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.000 I'm looking forward to the AFL this year, getting down there, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.159 see go to some games. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.920 One of the most unique things I put you and 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.720 Eric Cross through the ringer was we did a live podcast. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.120 It wasn't live, but it was like a podcast recording 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.000 in the stands of Camelback Ranch during the Arizona Fall League. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.240 And I believe the very first at bat when we 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.480 were I had, you know, all my gear and my 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.720 recorder and you, me and Cross are sitting in the 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.800 stands and I think it was Pedro Leona the Astros 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.360 was up to bat and we were all like you, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.600 this is not good and Jeter downs ended up. I 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.200 think you either struck out or hit a home or 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.720 I don't remember what it was. And we were talking 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.959 about Jeter and we were talking about them. So we've 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.119 met in person, We've hung out, we've done shows together. Chris. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.000 We found out yesterday our boy Mindy David Mendelssohn. They 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.880 have someone on their show called Little Cheesecake. So I 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.080 adopted the name Little Key Lime as my It's essentially 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.880 it's little in your favorite pie? What would be what 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.000 would be your new name? What would be your cake 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:39.440 slash pie little name? 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.679 I guess, so, I don't know. I love all kinds 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.840 of sweets, so I had to pick one pie. M 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.560 Maybe pea can't pie? 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.080 Oh, little pea can. Like that Little Pea can a 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.240 Little Key Lime in the house. Those are good names there, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.320 those are That's like one of those dumb generators, like 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.400 on a phone. It's like I fee those on Instagram. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.160 It's like, what's your rap name? Would be? Like what 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.120 is your rap slash favorite pie name? That? Those are 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.320 hard any thing we do, but we do have baseball 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.680 to talk about. Home run calls? Yes, did I get one? Yesterday. Yes, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.760 sort like twenty other people with the same call. We've 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.040 got a lot there, We've got bets to go through, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.359 go through all the stats. And I completely let this 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.640 slip in my mind. And I'm going to blame baseball 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.000 for this, for this not being promoted in quite the 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.240 way that it should. I completely let the Field of 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.720 Dreams game just not be a part of my mind. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.560 Like it wasn't built up. It wasn't. I was like, 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.600 not that it again, not that it's also like this huge, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.280 but it is like a special thing. They go to Iowa, 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.680 they're at the field, they're making this into a game, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:51.000 and it felt so pre uncelebrated that I just completely 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.919 forgot about it. But then the game goes on. They 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.080 brought the Griffies out, they did, hey, you want to 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.920 have a catch and whatever. And the game last year 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.320 obviously was magnificent, and this game drew smiling and it 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.000 of striking out nine and something you probably haven't heard 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.640 in years, Nick Madrigal. Nick Madrigal's name in general was 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.120 three for five with two stolen bases in the game. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.440 But CLI like the game itself was so undersold coming 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.000 into it. I just feel like if they're going to 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.880 do it. Maybe it's me. I also don't like I 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.480 don't sit with like MLB network on and listen to 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.120 tons of that stuff. So maybe I missed it. But 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.840 there was no fervor about it leading up to it. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.919 I felt like there was no really great pre promotion. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.440 Was that just me? No? 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.640 I felt that too. And last year it seemed like 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.960 it was very hyped up, and you know, I had 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.320 people talk to me, like casual baseball fans talk to 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.600 me about it. I'm excited for it, and then this 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.880 year it was kind of just like it just happened, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.680 and I think it was good, but it wasn't nearly 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.640 as promoted or as hyped as it should have been 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:49.120 at least. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.280 Yeah, Yeah, it was weird. It was weird that but 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.600 either way, you know, one thing coming out of it, though, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.840 was I Legit was like, oh my god, Nick Madrigal, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.480 like that that literally jumped into my mind had not 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.560 just been anything in my brain as of recent And 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.360 I really did love Nick Madrigal in the early years. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.440 I actually was. I remember I was at his pro debut, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.640 which was with when he was drafted by the White 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.120 Sox over in Peoria against the Mariners, and I remember 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.360 chatting with him on the season though he was able 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.200 to obviously get those stolen bases up one hundred and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.480 twenty eight at bats, no homers. Those were his first 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.440 two counting stats of the year and one hundred and 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.880 twenty eight bats with the two stolen bases, eleven runs 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.200 for RBI. Is there anybody more cooked than Nick Madrigal? 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.000 And he fell quick and you know, he's drafted. Everybody 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.279 was all hype about him, the ability to hit obviously, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.560 the speed as well work, so what kind of power 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.239 he gets to But man, he has fallen off really, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.160 really hard. And so I was kind of hoping that 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.520 the move to Chicago, well he was in Chicago, but 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.599 the move to the Cubs at least would have, you know, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.760 gave him a fresh start. But at this point, is 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.279 he even going to be fantasy relevant? I don't know 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.159 begin to wonder. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.080 I don't I think we have the answer. What is it? 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.320 Is it? Southside Ish? Is the White Sox? It's the 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.960 geographical director? Okay, yeah, that's such the White Sox. Okay, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.920 checking that, Well, you want to talk about someone who 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.160 fell harder and maybe farther, I got you. I got 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.839 you covered. It's not Julio Rodriguez because Julio was activated. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.120 He's coming back into the roster. With all the injuries 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.119 they had earlier into last week and a little before 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.080 with Mitchaniger, the team brought up Jared Kelnick. Jared Kelnick 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:28.159 coming up, and I had a conversation with somebody through 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.520 text yesterday that it wasn't like this accountability text about 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.880 prospects and stuff. There's a little bit, but we were comparing, like, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.359 you know, the guys at work to the guys that 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.960 don't work, and then there's Jared Kelnick, a guy that 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.720 I still can't I mean you can kind of pinpoint obviously. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:48.039 Now there's absolutely no picture recognition. There's nothing going positive. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.320 But where it went wrong early on Kelnick came up 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.120 July thirty first, if we don't and that he would 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.920 oh for three in that game with two strikeouts. If 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.400 we just look at August just for a minute here, 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:04.360 Since his call in August, he has hit oh eighty three. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.799 He has had a strikeout in every game but one, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.800 and only put up two hits, one of which was 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.760 a homer. Okay, one stolen base, one homer. Two total 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.320 hits in two total games, hitting eighty three and eighty 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.760 three OBP because yes, not a single walk in that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.880 period of time, and a slugging percentage that is just 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.000 over a Joey Gallo batting average. You are very close 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.239 to home with Jared Kalnick because of our mutual friend 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.400 and probably one of your best aeric cross and you 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.240 know he has gone all in on kell Nick and 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.160 there's still some defense and I think long term you 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.760 can maybe get down that road. But Cleig, I'd like 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.520 to get your breakdown of Jared Kelnick because it's a 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.440 little bit of a dynasty question. There's zero point zero 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.039 percent that there's as much reason as his batting average 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.760 to pick him up and own and roster him this 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.479 year in redraft, but in dynasty. Give me the full 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.640 breakdown on where you stand on Jared Kelnick. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.000 He's one that's so for ones to evaluate at this 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.360 point just because everything we saw when he's coming through 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.039 the minor leagues and he just looked completely lost to 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.280 the major league level. The power speed element is still there, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.240 like there's no denying his ability to put up good 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.680 counting stats from that standpoint, but you're right, the pitch 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.040 recognition is is gone. His contact skills have been basically evaporated, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.560 and he goes back down a triple A and he 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.000 looked alright. I mean he was coming on strong before 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.280 the call up. I would say strong, but at least 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.440 performing better. And then he comes back up and you know, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.760 performs how you said, and you read the stats in 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:40.360 there pretty horrific. It's it's just hard to really evaluate 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.560 him at this point, like in what size Dynasty League 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.320 is he a cut? Like at what point do you 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.480 let him go? I mean it's tough. I mean I'm 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.160 kind of wondering where to rank him on the next 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.320 update for Dynasty purposes. You mentioned for Redraft he's a 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.360 lost cause, like you know, there's no reason to try 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.480 to pick him up and or even stash him for 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.280 anything at this point. But for Dynasty, I don't know. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.680 I think he's gonna be potentially outside my top four hundred, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:08.880 which is a massive fall. But he's been kind of 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.480 slowly just falling down. And I try to be, you know, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.880 more conservative as far as like these guys that struggle, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.120 but I've seen nothing in them that's just encouraged me 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.320 to think that. And obviously players can get things right 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.600 long term, but right now just doesn't look pretty and 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.840 I don't see many positives to take away. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.280 Yeah, I mean there's also a term for what you said, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.920 where you're like, hey, he's bad in the majors, went 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.520 down to Triple A and then came It's called quad 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.800 egg quad unfortunately, And that's what it looks like. The 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.520 counter argument is he is still like twenty three years old, 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.960 and he's still really young. And I would almost put 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.800 money that Kalnick is gonna have a season. He's gonna 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.160 have one of those years where it clicks. But I 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.920 don't know who he's gonna be, you know that, Like 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.400 I think back to like Jesse Winker, someone to the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.520 teammate of his different guys. But Jesse Winker had like 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.920 these great minor league seasons then came up and maybe 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.240 he'd hit for some average but struggle with power like 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.720 Kelnix is almost comical at this point, Like I don't 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.959 know if it is in his head, it's pressing. He's 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.440 a smart guy. If you ever want to go back, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.680 you can check out my show Prospect One. I interviewed 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.440 him a couple of years ago. This was just after 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.040 he had had a twenty twenty season, and I think 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.840 this is going into twenty twenty and he's like, I 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.680 want to be in the majors and this is my goal. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.760 He's right goal oriented. He works out really hard. He 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.920 was an incredible hitter at that point, and it's just 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.160 patrich recognition has fallen apart. He can't hit anything. It 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.120 seems really really mental and I'm not sure. I mean, 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.199 I wish I had the uh. I wish I had 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.400 the answer for what all of that is. But I 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.240 actually can't move him outside my top four hundred yet 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.880 because of the age. I think it's a case by 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.440 case basis for Dynasty owners with Jared Klnick, because I 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.839 think you can make if there was if you have 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.280 an open universe and there was a Warming Burnable. Let's 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.600 say Warming Burnable is a really fun looking power speed 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.800 combo prospect with the Colorado Rockies. I think he's like 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.840 twenty years old high A. If you were like, this 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.840 doesn't do anything for me, I don't want to sit around. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.600 I would rather take the shot on a high end prospect. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.600 I think you could do that and justify that. I though, 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.680 would probably still keep him in there because of the 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.080 age and if you have the means to be able 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.120 to hold you can. But this looks as bad as 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.920 bad can be. Jodell hasn't fixed anything. Kelnick progressively gets worse. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.559 He stops stealing bases and the miners for the most part, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.959 he's only still on three in almost two hundred and 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.280 fifty eight bats in the miners, so he's just purely 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.000 focused on the hit. It is a lost cause. He 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.800 gone zo and I really think he could use a 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.800 change of scenery. That would be maybe one of my 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.160 best suggestions for them, right. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.160 Yeah, I actually like that trade. Now somewhere said I 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:39.720 would say. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.760 This personality from being around him, I could see something 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.880 along the lines of he's a hyper competitive guy. Think 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.880 about him and Julio were like best friends, Like they 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.360 were like lock step together. That was something when I interviewed. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.160 I interviewed him and asked him about Juligo and then 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.040 imagine what that's got to do where one of them 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.800 becomes the I mean he's literally become like the face 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.480 of baseball, you know, home run Derby, all of that. Like, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.679 if you are a hyper competitive person, maybe that could 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.760 get in your head. But that doesn't really help us 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.640 with fantasy. So you dump out and he can go 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.199 figure it out in Tacoma. The other answer would have been, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.200 when I asked you, what was the outlook you, I 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.320 would have also accepted. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:19.720 Yeah. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.480 On the injury front, Jonathan India was hit by a 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.520 pitch on his lower leg. Left the game, but X 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:30.480 rays revealed there was no fracture. India is definitely towing 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.640 the line of like, are we always going to be 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.040 hurt with something? Let's hope that that goes away. In 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.560 his very short stint in his career, Max Freed was 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.199 placed on the seven day concussion I L this is 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.480 this is due to that? Wasn't that that throw where 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:47.160 he smacked his head? That was a brutal hits. There's 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.880 something about those like wind up, whippy head hits against 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.880 the ground that just like absolutely shake me to my 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.840 core when I saw it and he smacked his head 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:58.680 on the ground. Cleg. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.120 Yeah, it's surprise. I see they waited so long to 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.480 because he was scheduled to start today three or four 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.559 days right, yeah Saturday. Yeah, it was last Saturday. So 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.360 that's what's baffling about it. It was took so long 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.120 for them to put him on the concussion ile. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.720 Maybe it's one of those things they wanted to see 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.840 how it was going to go, and then they'll retro 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.920 They do it retroactive, so they just can have a 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.920 roster spot to bring someone up and then he'll be 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.840 activated because technically, in theory you would say he would 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.680 be able to be activated from it like in two days, right, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.920 seven day if it's retroactive. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.040 So most likely just missed the start, hit the next 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.720 turn in the rotation. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.920 We're good. So it's a seven day IL retroactive or 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.120 is it the tent? Can you do? I don't know. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.640 It's interesting. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure I've 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.880 ever seen a retroactive seven day IL. Maybe maybe you can't. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.160 Maybe you can't. Bryce Harper is backing off his throwing 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.679 program due to stiffness in his elbow. It was also 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.840 announced earlier in the week that if and when is 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.679 the presumed thing that he will DH, that Harper will 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:58.120 be DH. But this looks like there is maybe almost 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.240 no fantasy season hope unfortunately, because they're talking like midigh 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.280 to end September, So Harper not going to do much 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.600 for you. Kyle Schwarber left the game with a calf strain. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.000 Not expected miss time, please don't and Yaathan Daza sprained 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.439 his left shoulder making a running catch. Of some injuries 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.440 from yesterday, I had this. I have an interesting question 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.320 and I want to get the chat involved. Whoever wants 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.680 to participate and is actually out there cod if I 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.560 sent this tweet out and I liked it a lot. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.720 It was quote tweeting pitching Ninja on a Dylancy slider, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.120 which has been phenomenal, and this is it's gonna take 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.680 one pitch out that I think would have ran away 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.439 with it, but I like it. So the tweet was 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.280 best pitches so far this season according to Baseball Savant. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.800 It's considering both the quality and the quantity of the pitch. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.560 So this immediately tells you Jacoba Grams slider will not 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:47.800 be in. This is not going to be a part 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.520 of this. So here are the pitches. Ceases Slider, Corbin 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:56.840 Burns cutter, Shoheo Tani slider, Justin Verlander's four seam or 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.640 Carlos for Don's four seam. So that is what codify 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.160 tweeted about Baseball Savant's best pitches for quality and quantity. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:08.000 So my question is, take one pitch you get one 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.319 pitch out of that mix, sees his slider, burns his cutter, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.840 Otani slider, Verlander's for seen, or Redawn's for seam. Which 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:16.720 pitch do you take? 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.120 I'm gonna be maybe a little bias because I saw 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.680 Otani pitch live earlier this year. His sliders is downright nasty. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.800 I mean, he just carved up the Braves when they 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.800 were in Atlanta, at least for six innings. They brought 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.320 it off for the seventh and the Braves dropped a 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.520 six spot on him. But his slider was so good, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.640 and I kind of leaned that way. You know, all 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.280 these pitches are on this list for a reason because 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.720 they're that good, But I'm gonna go with Otani slider. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.920 I have a hard time taking a fastball, like a 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.160 forcing fastball in this even though they're like really good, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.080 Like fastballs are fun, but you know, this day and age, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.760 it's like the fastball's effectiveness is effective as the secondaries 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.800 that set it up, Like there's very I mean, it's 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.320 it's also a thing with a guy who thinking a 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.920 Jack Lider like came to my mind, like that was 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.200 like a big, heavy four seene pitcher in college that 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.480 just burned it by guys that couldn't catch up to it, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.880 and then that secondary would set it up in the 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.040 major leagues, like Jacob de Gram is the example. Jacob 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.680 de Gram is slider, slider, that's the best pitch, and 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.920 his fastball almost becomes unhittable because people are like, what 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.320 the hell can I do about this? You know what 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.360 jumped in my mind is I actually was gonna say 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.680 the Emmanuel Class cutter was the pitch I would want. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.280 But that's cheating and that's not answering the question. So 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.880 I will go you said Otani, I will go with 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.800 Ceasars slider on this the one that was featured because 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.760 you took Otanni slider. I think that's a good one. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.320 A boy JP said, of course, burns on the cutter, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.160 And I just thought that was a fun tweet about 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.880 the best pitches. Now the end. Now, if you have 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.160 the whole you know, world, of all qualified pitches, I 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.000 kind of think de Gram slider would run away with. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.320 This, right, Yeah, oh yeah, I have. I mean it's nasty, Yeah, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:54.960 it's disgusting. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.040 It's the dumbest pitch in all of baseball. This day 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.680 in Baseball nineteen thirty six, the largest crowd ever to 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.760 watch a baseball game. It was between ninety thousand and 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.960 one hundred and twenty five thousand. It's a It was 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.760 seeing a demonstration game at the Berlin Olympics. It was 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.440 the World Amateurs beat the US Amateurs six to five. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.360 That was this day in baseball. Coming back to and 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.880 I'm gonna ask you this question because I got rid 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.360 of the answer in regards to the Field of Dreams game. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.240 Field of Dreams was nominated for the Best Picture in 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.440 nineteen ninety. But what picture one? So this is a 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.960 this is a pseudo baseball question wrapped into a little 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.440 bit of a movie mystery. Here, So in nineteen ninety 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.920 that would happen? Were you born plague in nineteen I 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.840 was born in ninety four, So you were not born. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.880 You were not I didn't even process that for a second. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.640 You weren't even born when this movie came out. I 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.280 wasn't super old. I was seven years old when this 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.960 came out, so at least I was actually here. But 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.920 you gotta have a little bit of movie history in here. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.360 So again, what movie one? So this was nominated for 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.320 Best Picture, Field of Dreams, but it did not win. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.680 What did, Brian says Silence of the Lambs in incorrect grace. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.680 I have no clue what else when it came out 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:11.560 in nineteen nineties. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.760 I'm not going to give an answer. I'm trying to 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:21.720 think Morgan Freeman, Oh, got it, JP, got it? Driving 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.639 Miss Daisy? That was Morgan Freeman, right, yeah, yeah, that 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.119 was yeah. Driving Miss Daisy won the same year. And 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.840 look at Field of Dreams. You know, we don't have 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.240 a Driving Miss Daisy day where we're going to celebrate that. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.200 We have a Field of Dreams day where baseball turns 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:36.680 over to it. So I actually thought that one was 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.200 kind of fun with a little bit of movie stuff 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.879 in here. Let's go to some stat heroes. Framber Valdez, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.240 thank you very much on that prop bet. That was 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.879 actually one of the top algorithms ones over on the 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.760 bettingpros dot com prop cheat sheet. If you guys played that, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.440 he went seven to four hits, struck out eight. Dylan 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.639 Cees who were talking about struck out eight and six. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.800 Edward Cabrera. Edward Cabrera has been really great, and we'll 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.600 talk him in a second, since he's come back five 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.560 and two thirds six strikeouts. Zach Pelisak had seven strikeouts 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.480 and Drew Smiley. We mentioned nine cas, but Edward Cabrera 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.879 since he's come back, cleg you know, this is one 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.320 of those top prospected guys they've got. They've had a bunch, 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.920 you know, six Do Sanchez has completely fallen off the planet. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.920 Edward Cabrera missed some time where I don't I think 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.600 it was like a personal issue where they just said 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.120 they weren't really sure when he was going to come back. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.320 He's come back and he's been really consistent lately. Are 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.320 you in on Edward Cabrera rest of season? I feel 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.920 like he is like a top end streaming option. Yeah, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.480 I think so. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.120 I think honestly, I roster him and I think he's 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.439 going to be a good BILO for Dynasty. Still, I 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.280 think the even though he's been really good the last 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.560 two starts by him a Dynasty, I think he's gonna 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.720 end up being a great how you pick and redraft 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.600 next year? Obviously that's a long way out, but yeah, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.159 rest of season, I'm in on him. I really like 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.640 what he's done. And even though you look in the start, 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.119 I mean the last two starts Chicago, the Cubs, Okay, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.119 and in the Phillies. The Phillies have been actually pretty hot, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.119 and you know, he shut them down. So encouraging to 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.520 see there sixteen strikeouts over the last or sorry, fourteen 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.040