Speaker 1: Leading off starts right now, brought to you by Bet
Speaker 1: MGM on Fantasy Pros. I'm Chris Welsh aka the Welsh
Speaker 1: aka Little Key Lime, as we learned yesterday. Joining me
Speaker 1: today is Chris Cleig Rode clegg Over on Fantracks. One
Speaker 1: of my good friends, Chris. What's up, man, It's the
Speaker 1: Chris Show. It's Chris and Chris.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking forward to us. Good to be back
Speaker 2: on with you. We've chatted on Prospect one, You've been
Speaker 2: on our pod on tool Shed before and in this league,
Speaker 2: so it's always good and it's always good to hang out.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the AFL this year, getting down there,
Speaker 2: see go to some games.
Speaker 1: One of the most unique things I put you and
Speaker 1: Eric Cross through the ringer was we did a live podcast.
Speaker 1: It wasn't live, but it was like a podcast recording
Speaker 1: in the stands of Camelback Ranch during the Arizona Fall League.
Speaker 1: And I believe the very first at bat when we
Speaker 1: were I had, you know, all my gear and my
Speaker 1: recorder and you, me and Cross are sitting in the
Speaker 1: stands and I think it was Pedro Leona the Astros
Speaker 1: was up to bat and we were all like you,
Speaker 1: this is not good and Jeter downs ended up. I
Speaker 1: think you either struck out or hit a home or
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was. And we were talking
Speaker 1: about Jeter and we were talking about them. So we've
Speaker 1: met in person, We've hung out, we've done shows together. Chris.
Speaker 1: We found out yesterday our boy Mindy David Mendelssohn. They
Speaker 1: have someone on their show called Little Cheesecake. So I
Speaker 1: adopted the name Little Key Lime as my It's essentially
Speaker 1: it's little in your favorite pie? What would be what
Speaker 1: would be your new name? What would be your cake
Speaker 1: slash pie little name?
Speaker 2: I guess, so, I don't know. I love all kinds
Speaker 2: of sweets, so I had to pick one pie. M
Speaker 2: Maybe pea can't pie?
Speaker 1: Oh, little pea can. Like that Little Pea can a
Speaker 1: Little Key Lime in the house. Those are good names there,
Speaker 1: those are That's like one of those dumb generators, like
Speaker 1: on a phone. It's like I fee those on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's your rap name? Would be? Like what
Speaker 1: is your rap slash favorite pie name? That? Those are
Speaker 1: hard any thing we do, but we do have baseball
Speaker 1: to talk about. Home run calls? Yes, did I get one? Yesterday. Yes,
Speaker 1: sort like twenty other people with the same call. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot there, We've got bets to go through,
Speaker 1: go through all the stats. And I completely let this
Speaker 1: slip in my mind. And I'm going to blame baseball
Speaker 1: for this, for this not being promoted in quite the
Speaker 1: way that it should. I completely let the Field of
Speaker 1: Dreams game just not be a part of my mind.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't built up. It wasn't. I was like,
Speaker 1: not that it again, not that it's also like this huge,
Speaker 1: but it is like a special thing. They go to Iowa,
Speaker 1: they're at the field, they're making this into a game,
Speaker 1: and it felt so pre uncelebrated that I just completely
Speaker 1: forgot about it. But then the game goes on. They
Speaker 1: brought the Griffies out, they did, hey, you want to
Speaker 1: have a catch and whatever. And the game last year
Speaker 1: obviously was magnificent, and this game drew smiling and it
Speaker 1: of striking out nine and something you probably haven't heard
Speaker 1: in years, Nick Madrigal. Nick Madrigal's name in general was
Speaker 1: three for five with two stolen bases in the game.
Speaker 1: But CLI like the game itself was so undersold coming
Speaker 1: into it. I just feel like if they're going to
Speaker 1: do it. Maybe it's me. I also don't like I
Speaker 1: don't sit with like MLB network on and listen to
Speaker 1: tons of that stuff. So maybe I missed it. But
Speaker 1: there was no fervor about it leading up to it.
Speaker 1: I felt like there was no really great pre promotion.
Speaker 1: Was that just me? No?
Speaker 2: I felt that too. And last year it seemed like
Speaker 2: it was very hyped up, and you know, I had
Speaker 2: people talk to me, like casual baseball fans talk to
Speaker 2: me about it. I'm excited for it, and then this
Speaker 2: year it was kind of just like it just happened,
Speaker 2: and I think it was good, but it wasn't nearly
Speaker 2: as promoted or as hyped as it should have been
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was weird. It was weird that but
Speaker 1: either way, you know, one thing coming out of it, though,
Speaker 1: was I Legit was like, oh my god, Nick Madrigal,
Speaker 1: like that that literally jumped into my mind had not
Speaker 1: just been anything in my brain as of recent And
Speaker 1: I really did love Nick Madrigal in the early years.
Speaker 1: I actually was. I remember I was at his pro debut,
Speaker 1: which was with when he was drafted by the White
Speaker 1: Sox over in Peoria against the Mariners, and I remember
Speaker 1: chatting with him on the season though he was able
Speaker 1: to obviously get those stolen bases up one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight at bats, no homers. Those were his first
Speaker 1: two counting stats of the year and one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight bats with the two stolen bases, eleven runs
Speaker 1: for RBI. Is there anybody more cooked than Nick Madrigal?
Speaker 2: And he fell quick and you know, he's drafted. Everybody
Speaker 2: was all hype about him, the ability to hit obviously,
Speaker 2: the speed as well work, so what kind of power
Speaker 2: he gets to But man, he has fallen off really,
Speaker 2: really hard. And so I was kind of hoping that
Speaker 2: the move to Chicago, well he was in Chicago, but
Speaker 2: the move to the Cubs at least would have, you know,
Speaker 2: gave him a fresh start. But at this point, is
Speaker 2: he even going to be fantasy relevant? I don't know
Speaker 2: begin to wonder.
Speaker 1: I don't I think we have the answer. What is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? Southside Ish? Is the White Sox? It's the
Speaker 1: geographical director? Okay, yeah, that's such the White Sox. Okay,
Speaker 1: checking that, Well, you want to talk about someone who
Speaker 1: fell harder and maybe farther, I got you. I got
Speaker 1: you covered. It's not Julio Rodriguez because Julio was activated.
Speaker 1: He's coming back into the roster. With all the injuries
Speaker 1: they had earlier into last week and a little before
Speaker 1: with Mitchaniger, the team brought up Jared Kelnick. Jared Kelnick
Speaker 1: coming up, and I had a conversation with somebody through
Speaker 1: text yesterday that it wasn't like this accountability text about
Speaker 1: prospects and stuff. There's a little bit, but we were comparing, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys at work to the guys that
Speaker 1: don't work, and then there's Jared Kelnick, a guy that
Speaker 1: I still can't I mean you can kind of pinpoint obviously.
Speaker 1: Now there's absolutely no picture recognition. There's nothing going positive.
Speaker 1: But where it went wrong early on Kelnick came up
Speaker 1: July thirty first, if we don't and that he would
Speaker 1: oh for three in that game with two strikeouts. If
Speaker 1: we just look at August just for a minute here,
Speaker 1: Since his call in August, he has hit oh eighty three.
Speaker 1: He has had a strikeout in every game but one,
Speaker 1: and only put up two hits, one of which was
Speaker 1: a homer. Okay, one stolen base, one homer. Two total
Speaker 1: hits in two total games, hitting eighty three and eighty
Speaker 1: three OBP because yes, not a single walk in that
Speaker 1: period of time, and a slugging percentage that is just
Speaker 1: over a Joey Gallo batting average. You are very close
Speaker 1: to home with Jared Kalnick because of our mutual friend
Speaker 1: and probably one of your best aeric cross and you
Speaker 1: know he has gone all in on kell Nick and
Speaker 1: there's still some defense and I think long term you
Speaker 1: can maybe get down that road. But Cleig, I'd like
Speaker 1: to get your breakdown of Jared Kelnick because it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a dynasty question. There's zero point zero
Speaker 1: percent that there's as much reason as his batting average
Speaker 1: to pick him up and own and roster him this
Speaker 1: year in redraft, but in dynasty. Give me the full
Speaker 1: breakdown on where you stand on Jared Kelnick.
Speaker 2: He's one that's so for ones to evaluate at this
Speaker 2: point just because everything we saw when he's coming through
Speaker 2: the minor leagues and he just looked completely lost to
Speaker 2: the major league level. The power speed element is still there,
Speaker 2: like there's no denying his ability to put up good
Speaker 2: counting stats from that standpoint, but you're right, the pitch
Speaker 2: recognition is is gone. His contact skills have been basically evaporated,
Speaker 2: and he goes back down a triple A and he
Speaker 2: looked alright. I mean he was coming on strong before
Speaker 2: the call up. I would say strong, but at least
Speaker 2: performing better. And then he comes back up and you know,
Speaker 2: performs how you said, and you read the stats in
Speaker 2: there pretty horrific. It's it's just hard to really evaluate
Speaker 2: him at this point, like in what size Dynasty League
Speaker 2: is he a cut? Like at what point do you
Speaker 2: let him go? I mean it's tough. I mean I'm
Speaker 2: kind of wondering where to rank him on the next
Speaker 2: update for Dynasty purposes. You mentioned for Redraft he's a
Speaker 2: lost cause, like you know, there's no reason to try
Speaker 2: to pick him up and or even stash him for
Speaker 2: anything at this point. But for Dynasty, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be potentially outside my top four hundred,
Speaker 2: which is a massive fall. But he's been kind of
Speaker 2: slowly just falling down. And I try to be, you know,
Speaker 2: more conservative as far as like these guys that struggle,
Speaker 2: but I've seen nothing in them that's just encouraged me
Speaker 2: to think that. And obviously players can get things right
Speaker 2: long term, but right now just doesn't look pretty and
Speaker 2: I don't see many positives to take away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's also a term for what you said,
Speaker 1: where you're like, hey, he's bad in the majors, went
Speaker 1: down to Triple A and then came It's called quad
Speaker 1: egg quad unfortunately, And that's what it looks like. The
Speaker 1: counter argument is he is still like twenty three years old,
Speaker 1: and he's still really young. And I would almost put
Speaker 1: money that Kalnick is gonna have a season. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have one of those years where it clicks. But I
Speaker 1: don't know who he's gonna be, you know that, Like
Speaker 1: I think back to like Jesse Winker, someone to the
Speaker 1: teammate of his different guys. But Jesse Winker had like
Speaker 1: these great minor league seasons then came up and maybe
Speaker 1: he'd hit for some average but struggle with power like
Speaker 1: Kelnix is almost comical at this point, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if it is in his head, it's pressing. He's
Speaker 1: a smart guy. If you ever want to go back,
Speaker 1: you can check out my show Prospect One. I interviewed
Speaker 1: him a couple of years ago. This was just after
Speaker 1: he had had a twenty twenty season, and I think
Speaker 1: this is going into twenty twenty and he's like, I
Speaker 1: want to be in the majors and this is my goal.
Speaker 1: He's right goal oriented. He works out really hard. He
Speaker 1: was an incredible hitter at that point, and it's just
Speaker 1: patrich recognition has fallen apart. He can't hit anything. It
Speaker 1: seems really really mental and I'm not sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wish I had the uh. I wish I had
Speaker 1: the answer for what all of that is. But I
Speaker 1: actually can't move him outside my top four hundred yet
Speaker 1: because of the age. I think it's a case by
Speaker 1: case basis for Dynasty owners with Jared Klnick, because I
Speaker 1: think you can make if there was if you have
Speaker 1: an open universe and there was a Warming Burnable. Let's
Speaker 1: say Warming Burnable is a really fun looking power speed
Speaker 1: combo prospect with the Colorado Rockies. I think he's like
Speaker 1: twenty years old high A. If you were like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for me, I don't want to sit around.
Speaker 1: I would rather take the shot on a high end prospect.
Speaker 1: I think you could do that and justify that. I though,
Speaker 1: would probably still keep him in there because of the
Speaker 1: age and if you have the means to be able
Speaker 1: to hold you can. But this looks as bad as
Speaker 1: bad can be. Jodell hasn't fixed anything. Kelnick progressively gets worse.
Speaker 1: He stops stealing bases and the miners for the most part,
Speaker 1: he's only still on three in almost two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty eight bats in the miners, so he's just purely
Speaker 1: focused on the hit. It is a lost cause. He
Speaker 1: gone zo and I really think he could use a
Speaker 1: change of scenery. That would be maybe one of my
Speaker 1: best suggestions for them, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like that trade. Now somewhere said I
Speaker 2: would say.
Speaker 1: This personality from being around him, I could see something
Speaker 1: along the lines of he's a hyper competitive guy. Think
Speaker 1: about him and Julio were like best friends, Like they
Speaker 1: were like lock step together. That was something when I interviewed.
Speaker 1: I interviewed him and asked him about Juligo and then
Speaker 1: imagine what that's got to do where one of them
Speaker 1: becomes the I mean he's literally become like the face
Speaker 1: of baseball, you know, home run Derby, all of that. Like,
Speaker 1: if you are a hyper competitive person, maybe that could
Speaker 1: get in your head. But that doesn't really help us
Speaker 1: with fantasy. So you dump out and he can go
Speaker 1: figure it out in Tacoma. The other answer would have been,
Speaker 1: when I asked you, what was the outlook you, I
Speaker 1: would have also accepted.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: On the injury front, Jonathan India was hit by a
Speaker 1: pitch on his lower leg. Left the game, but X
Speaker 1: rays revealed there was no fracture. India is definitely towing
Speaker 1: the line of like, are we always going to be
Speaker 1: hurt with something? Let's hope that that goes away. In
Speaker 1: his very short stint in his career, Max Freed was
Speaker 1: placed on the seven day concussion I L this is
Speaker 1: this is due to that? Wasn't that that throw where
Speaker 1: he smacked his head? That was a brutal hits. There's
Speaker 1: something about those like wind up, whippy head hits against
Speaker 1: the ground that just like absolutely shake me to my
Speaker 1: core when I saw it and he smacked his head
Speaker 1: on the ground. Cleg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprise. I see they waited so long to
Speaker 2: because he was scheduled to start today three or four
Speaker 2: days right, yeah Saturday. Yeah, it was last Saturday. So
Speaker 2: that's what's baffling about it. It was took so long
Speaker 2: for them to put him on the concussion ile.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's one of those things they wanted to see
Speaker 1: how it was going to go, and then they'll retro
Speaker 1: They do it retroactive, so they just can have a
Speaker 1: roster spot to bring someone up and then he'll be
Speaker 1: activated because technically, in theory you would say he would
Speaker 1: be able to be activated from it like in two days, right,
Speaker 1: seven day if it's retroactive.
Speaker 2: So most likely just missed the start, hit the next
Speaker 2: turn in the rotation.
Speaker 1: We're good. So it's a seven day IL retroactive or
Speaker 1: is it the tent? Can you do? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure I've
Speaker 1: ever seen a retroactive seven day IL. Maybe maybe you can't.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can't. Bryce Harper is backing off his throwing
Speaker 1: program due to stiffness in his elbow. It was also
Speaker 1: announced earlier in the week that if and when is
Speaker 1: the presumed thing that he will DH, that Harper will
Speaker 1: be DH. But this looks like there is maybe almost
Speaker 1: no fantasy season hope unfortunately, because they're talking like midigh
Speaker 1: to end September, So Harper not going to do much
Speaker 1: for you. Kyle Schwarber left the game with a calf strain.
Speaker 1: Not expected miss time, please don't and Yaathan Daza sprained
Speaker 1: his left shoulder making a running catch. Of some injuries
Speaker 1: from yesterday, I had this. I have an interesting question
Speaker 1: and I want to get the chat involved. Whoever wants
Speaker 1: to participate and is actually out there cod if I
Speaker 1: sent this tweet out and I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1: It was quote tweeting pitching Ninja on a Dylancy slider,
Speaker 1: which has been phenomenal, and this is it's gonna take
Speaker 1: one pitch out that I think would have ran away
Speaker 1: with it, but I like it. So the tweet was
Speaker 1: best pitches so far this season according to Baseball Savant.
Speaker 1: It's considering both the quality and the quantity of the pitch.
Speaker 1: So this immediately tells you Jacoba Grams slider will not
Speaker 1: be in. This is not going to be a part
Speaker 1: of this. So here are the pitches. Ceases Slider, Corbin
Speaker 1: Burns cutter, Shoheo Tani slider, Justin Verlander's four seam or
Speaker 1: Carlos for Don's four seam. So that is what codify
Speaker 1: tweeted about Baseball Savant's best pitches for quality and quantity.
Speaker 1: So my question is, take one pitch you get one
Speaker 1: pitch out of that mix, sees his slider, burns his cutter,
Speaker 1: Otani slider, Verlander's for seen, or Redawn's for seam. Which
Speaker 1: pitch do you take?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be maybe a little bias because I saw
Speaker 2: Otani pitch live earlier this year. His sliders is downright nasty.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just carved up the Braves when they
Speaker 2: were in Atlanta, at least for six innings. They brought
Speaker 2: it off for the seventh and the Braves dropped a
Speaker 2: six spot on him. But his slider was so good,
Speaker 2: and I kind of leaned that way. You know, all
Speaker 2: these pitches are on this list for a reason because
Speaker 2: they're that good, But I'm gonna go with Otani slider.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time taking a fastball, like a
Speaker 1: forcing fastball in this even though they're like really good,
Speaker 1: Like fastballs are fun, but you know, this day and age,
Speaker 1: it's like the fastball's effectiveness is effective as the secondaries
Speaker 1: that set it up, Like there's very I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's also a thing with a guy who thinking a
Speaker 1: Jack Lider like came to my mind, like that was
Speaker 1: like a big, heavy four seene pitcher in college that
Speaker 1: just burned it by guys that couldn't catch up to it,
Speaker 1: and then that secondary would set it up in the
Speaker 1: major leagues, like Jacob de Gram is the example. Jacob
Speaker 1: de Gram is slider, slider, that's the best pitch, and
Speaker 1: his fastball almost becomes unhittable because people are like, what
Speaker 1: the hell can I do about this? You know what
Speaker 1: jumped in my mind is I actually was gonna say
Speaker 1: the Emmanuel Class cutter was the pitch I would want.
Speaker 1: But that's cheating and that's not answering the question. So
Speaker 1: I will go you said Otani, I will go with
Speaker 1: Ceasars slider on this the one that was featured because
Speaker 1: you took Otanni slider. I think that's a good one.
Speaker 1: A boy JP said, of course, burns on the cutter,
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was a fun tweet about
Speaker 1: the best pitches. Now the end. Now, if you have
Speaker 1: the whole you know, world, of all qualified pitches, I
Speaker 1: kind of think de Gram slider would run away with.
Speaker 2: This, right, Yeah, oh yeah, I have. I mean it's nasty, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: It's the dumbest pitch in all of baseball. This day
Speaker 1: in Baseball nineteen thirty six, the largest crowd ever to
Speaker 1: watch a baseball game. It was between ninety thousand and
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five thousand. It's a It was
Speaker 1: seeing a demonstration game at the Berlin Olympics. It was
Speaker 1: the World Amateurs beat the US Amateurs six to five.
Speaker 1: That was this day in baseball. Coming back to and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this question because I got rid
Speaker 1: of the answer in regards to the Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 1: Field of Dreams was nominated for the Best Picture in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. But what picture one? So this is a
Speaker 1: this is a pseudo baseball question wrapped into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a movie mystery. Here, So in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: that would happen? Were you born plague in nineteen I
Speaker 1: was born in ninety four, So you were not born.
Speaker 1: You were not I didn't even process that for a second.
Speaker 1: You weren't even born when this movie came out. I
Speaker 1: wasn't super old. I was seven years old when this
Speaker 1: came out, so at least I was actually here. But
Speaker 1: you gotta have a little bit of movie history in here.
Speaker 1: So again, what movie one? So this was nominated for
Speaker 1: Best Picture, Field of Dreams, but it did not win.
Speaker 1: What did, Brian says Silence of the Lambs in incorrect grace.
Speaker 2: I have no clue what else when it came out
Speaker 2: in nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give an answer. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think Morgan Freeman, Oh, got it, JP, got it? Driving
Speaker 1: Miss Daisy? That was Morgan Freeman, right, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was yeah. Driving Miss Daisy won the same year. And
Speaker 1: look at Field of Dreams. You know, we don't have
Speaker 1: a Driving Miss Daisy day where we're going to celebrate that.
Speaker 1: We have a Field of Dreams day where baseball turns
Speaker 1: over to it. So I actually thought that one was
Speaker 1: kind of fun with a little bit of movie stuff
Speaker 1: in here. Let's go to some stat heroes. Framber Valdez,
Speaker 1: thank you very much on that prop bet. That was
Speaker 1: actually one of the top algorithms ones over on the
Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com prop cheat sheet. If you guys played that,
Speaker 1: he went seven to four hits, struck out eight. Dylan
Speaker 1: Cees who were talking about struck out eight and six.
Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera. Edward Cabrera has been really great, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk him in a second, since he's come back five
Speaker 1: and two thirds six strikeouts. Zach Pelisak had seven strikeouts
Speaker 1: and Drew Smiley. We mentioned nine cas, but Edward Cabrera
Speaker 1: since he's come back, cleg you know, this is one
Speaker 1: of those top prospected guys they've got. They've had a bunch,
Speaker 1: you know, six Do Sanchez has completely fallen off the planet.
Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera missed some time where I don't I think
Speaker 1: it was like a personal issue where they just said
Speaker 1: they weren't really sure when he was going to come back.
Speaker 1: He's come back and he's been really consistent lately. Are
Speaker 1: you in on Edward Cabrera rest of season? I feel
Speaker 1: like he is like a top end streaming option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think honestly, I roster him and I think he's
Speaker 2: going to be a good BILO for Dynasty. Still, I
Speaker 2: think the even though he's been really good the last
Speaker 2: two starts by him a Dynasty, I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: end up being a great how you pick and redraft
Speaker 2: next year? Obviously that's a long way out, but yeah,
Speaker 2: rest of season, I'm in on him. I really like
Speaker 2: what he's done. And even though you look in the start,
Speaker 2: I mean the last two starts Chicago, the Cubs, Okay,
Speaker 2: and in the Phillies. The Phillies have been actually pretty hot,
Speaker 2: and you know, he shut them down. So encouraging to
Speaker 2: see there sixteen strikeouts over the last or sorry, fourteen
Speaker 2: strikeouts over the last two starts. That so over ten
Speaker 2: and two thirds innings. Very encouraging signs there, you know,
Speaker 2: just three hits allowed over those two starts. He's looked
Speaker 2: extremely good, getting a ton of whiffs, you know, on
Speaker 2: the change up obviously, that's kind of been his go
Speaker 2: to pitch. It's a change up, excellent whiff pitch there,
Speaker 2: one of the you know, it's looked extremely good in
Speaker 2: these last two starts. I really like what I've seen
Speaker 2: with the fastball has been good, the velo's been up,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of encouraging signs of loot of Cabrera.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm buyingn in the rest of season,
Speaker 2: and I think that he's a viable start option going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has a two ERA with the Marlins
Speaker 1: so far this year in five starts, he has twenty
Speaker 1: nine strikeouts. Walks have been a little heavy with fourteen,
Speaker 1: but he's not given up homers and he's just maintaining
Speaker 1: this whole thing only giving up thirteen hits in twenty
Speaker 1: six innings. So Edward Cabrera a guy that maybe you
Speaker 1: can take into your playoff runs if you're missing anything
Speaker 1: on the hitter side. Emanuel Rivera, who the Diamondbacks picked
Speaker 1: up in God, what was the trade now that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, I think it was just like a nothing
Speaker 1: burger trade. Even three for five with a homer, three rbi,
Speaker 1: a couple runs, Paul gold Schmidt with my home run
Speaker 1: call and twenty others. Three for five a homer, three
Speaker 1: RBI is actually identical linism in Rivera. Alex Bragman had
Speaker 1: a homer with three RBI, going two for two. Yes,
Speaker 1: Monty grand Dahl as he had three hits all year,
Speaker 1: he only hit it yesterday, homer, two RBI. Marcus Simeon
Speaker 1: had a bomb. Stephen Kwan a rare homer. He had
Speaker 1: a combo meal actually even more rare for him. I
Speaker 1: think this is his third homer of the year. Nolan
Speaker 1: Gorman with a home run, and Taren Vavra two for four,
Speaker 1: two RBI with a home run. Stephen, You know what,
Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan Nolan Gorman rest of season. They're two completely
Speaker 1: different positions, but if you were maintaining a utility spot.
Speaker 1: Kwan's batting average has been there hasn't really been anything uncounting,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of been the rub on him all season.
Speaker 1: Nolan Gorman. Obviously, the big power has cooled as of
Speaker 1: recent Nolan Gorman, Stephen Kwan. Who would you rather be
Speaker 1: rostering on util spot for your bench?
Speaker 2: And I guess it's based on team needs, but you know,
Speaker 2: if you want the power, Gorman's the easy answer. You know,
Speaker 2: we know Kwan's not going to get that, but it
Speaker 2: is a batting average boost. Kwan is a great option.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think it's easy to kind of
Speaker 2: be disappointed in what Gorman's done this year, but you
Speaker 2: just look at the surface numbers and if you had
Speaker 2: said that he would do this preseason before he got
Speaker 2: caught up, I think this is a fair expectation. You know,
Speaker 2: he's shown decent power, not huge power by any means.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, he's kind of he's had his streaks
Speaker 2: where he's had the hotness with the power and then
Speaker 2: sometimes it's it's not there.
Speaker 1: And two forty two average three to sixteen OVP.
Speaker 2: It's kind of about what I expected this year and
Speaker 2: he was called up, and you know, long term, what
Speaker 2: is he a two fifty to sixty tie hitter with
Speaker 2: decent power. I think this is kind of what Gorman is.
Speaker 2: I like Gorman, but I don't know. Quan's a safer
Speaker 2: option just from a batting averge standard.
Speaker 1: It's Kwan like a guy that his batting average with.
Speaker 1: I mean, god, it would be amazing if he could
Speaker 1: even if he can't get that power gun, if he
Speaker 1: could just run a little bit more and he could
Speaker 1: get something on some side. Is Quan's like hitting a
Speaker 1: high in the lineup or potential hitting a high in
Speaker 1: the lineup and contactability with days like this worth sacrificing
Speaker 1: a suboptimal batting average player who's got bigger power.
Speaker 2: I mean, and Gordan's not exhibited enough power for it
Speaker 2: to be like you know, you're a huge loss, and
Speaker 2: the gain and bang average is pretty significant. I mean,
Speaker 2: the amount of hitters that can hit over three hundred
Speaker 2: consistently or slim to none, and I think in the
Speaker 2: day and age, at least for fantasy relevant players or
Speaker 2: bad average is lower than ever. Kwan does give you
Speaker 2: a nice boost there, and I think that's kind of underrated,
Speaker 2: Like you know, ratio stats are harder to pull up.
Speaker 2: But with Kwan, I mean, we've seen he's dead on
Speaker 2: three hundred for the season and four hundred nine played appearances.
Speaker 2: The bad neverage is going to be there with Stephen Kwan.
Speaker 1: So I like a question right here, check this out.
Speaker 1: And Delgado asked, Julio is back cut Kwan? Or I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess this is Eddie Rosario because if this is
Speaker 1: Amed Rosario, bye bye Kwan. If this is Eddie Rosario,
Speaker 1: quan or Eddie Rosario, which one do you cut?
Speaker 2: I'd cut Rosor. If it's Eddie, I'd cut Eddie Rasori.
Speaker 2: If it's Omed, I'm cutting Kwan.
Speaker 1: As you said, yeah, Amen's not going anywhere, I would
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I agree with that stat zero front.
Speaker 1: Cole Reagan's ooh, we had this thing we do Wednesdays
Speaker 1: on our in this league Twitch. It's in it's Twitch
Speaker 1: dot tv slash in this league. We call it. Is
Speaker 1: it the wheel? It's this wacky day where we've got
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Bogwin and I spin the wheel three
Speaker 1: spins each and one of them is called cal an analyst.
Speaker 1: And we've done that a couple times and Bogmin landed
Speaker 1: on it and had to call her friend Paul Spor
Speaker 1: and caught him live, and Paul picked up, and he
Speaker 1: tried to get Paul to play a homerun derby with
Speaker 1: us in the show and he couldn't. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, ask him a question. And he had asked him,
Speaker 1: you know, who is someone that you like for pickup?
Speaker 1: And unfortunately it was Cole Reagan's because Cole Reagan's uh
Speaker 1: with the Texas Rangers has had, you know, some decent
Speaker 1: lucks early on, minor leagues have been fine. But I
Speaker 1: had all to say this to not kill Paul at all,
Speaker 1: but he was just in my mind, that's now what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about with Cole Reagan's was him live saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I like Cole Reagan's not good Yesterday four and one
Speaker 1: third five and runs, walk three, only struck out one.
Speaker 1: Nick Lodolo, the love child for everybody the strikeouts. This
Speaker 1: is not a great Lodolo game. Four and two thirds
Speaker 1: gave up four and runs seven, hits, walk four, but
Speaker 1: still struck out six. I think that just misses his
Speaker 1: strikeout props have moved way up. They've moved way up.
Speaker 1: In unfortunately until like that six and a half range.
Speaker 1: But if you got it at five and a half,
Speaker 1: at least it's still hit on the hitter side. Tyler O'Neal,
Speaker 1: Kerry Carpenter, Oh did I miss the Kerry Carpenter got
Speaker 1: called up, and Riley Green all big ofers with three strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neill had four. The home run Contest friends, which
Speaker 1: you guys, if you guys are over on the discord,
Speaker 1: you guys can get into the free room and you
Speaker 1: can at any time check out the home run Contest
Speaker 1: and you can take part in it. I completely forgot
Speaker 1: to load up the new board even though they sent it,
Speaker 1: so that's my bad. We still have high cubes at
Speaker 1: the top with forty two, but it is getting a
Speaker 1: lot closer. De Blum hit his forty first with Paul
Speaker 1: Goldschmid go cards and Terry both behind all three de
Speaker 1: Blum go cards that Terry had thirty nine, so the
Speaker 1: contest is getting a lot tighter. High Cubby in the
Speaker 1: lead at forty two. I did hit a homer and
Speaker 1: I think that was like my twenty eighth or twenty
Speaker 1: ninth or something like that. So I again I have
Speaker 1: this like outside shot. The board has up to thirty
Speaker 1: five thirty six. So if I were to go on
Speaker 1: a nice little run calling homers that other people weren't,
Speaker 1: maybe I could get on this. But high covey is
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Speaker 1: I've got four bets for you and these are all
Speaker 1: play that are set up on the Betting Pros cheat sheet.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing this. I'm changing it up again today
Speaker 1: because yesterday the hitting side did not work because I
Speaker 1: gave you the top plus money hit, which is Paul
Speaker 1: de Young. He went over four. Valdez did work. We
Speaker 1: went fifty to fifty. So here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the top total base and the
Speaker 1: top strikeout overall, and then i'm gonna give you the
Speaker 1: top money play and you guys can nick a little
Speaker 1: choice as you want. Here the top overall total base
Speaker 1: prop is Aaron Judge one and a half total bases
Speaker 1: on BETMGM, it's at minus one forty. Do there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of juice. He's projected at almost four total bases.
Speaker 1: The top plus money play over on UNI bet, you
Speaker 1: can get Jose Ramirez at total his total bases at
Speaker 1: plus one five and they've got him projected at three,
Speaker 1: so that's your top plus money. On the strikeout side,
Speaker 1: Corey Abbott is the top strikeout play and it is
Speaker 1: juice to hell. It is two and a half strikeouts,
Speaker 1: but it is minus one eighty. That's on Draft Kings.
Speaker 1: He's projected at four and a half strikeouts. But the
Speaker 1: top plus money is Domingo Herman, who is four and
Speaker 1: a half strikeouts. It's plus one ten projected at five.
Speaker 1: So that is a lot I just threw out there.
Speaker 1: So Claig, I ask you, you've got Judge kind of juiced,
Speaker 1: Ramirez big plus Abbot crazy juiced but only three strikeouts needed.
Speaker 1: Or Herman four and a half strikeouts plus one ten.
Speaker 1: Which bet do you like?
Speaker 2: I might go Herman actually, which may not be the
Speaker 2: most popular, but I think that the way I mean,
Speaker 2: the Red Sox have been pretty streaky, and you know,
Speaker 2: I like this chance here for him to hit that
Speaker 2: strikeout totals, I'm going to Domingo Herman here, Okay.
Speaker 1: I kind of dig that one a little bit. The total.
Speaker 1: I've been feeling better just in general about total base props.
Speaker 1: Just overall, I want to throw out to everybody, so
Speaker 1: total base props. I feel like I've been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a better play on the DFS side some stacks.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for implied run totals, there are four
Speaker 1: teams that have five implied runs or more San Diego, Houston,
Speaker 1: and then funny enough, the Arizona Colorado game is set there,
Speaker 1: so you know, I didn't look at what the over was,
Speaker 1: but it's probably eleven and a half or twelve, because
Speaker 1: I think their projected stuff was like eleven point six
Speaker 1: or something on implied run totals, So you might be
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of some pieces into both of
Speaker 1: those guys. As far as some of the pitchers on DK,
Speaker 1: I really thought it was interesting. Jordan Montgomery with six
Speaker 1: eight it was a really good cost. I know it's
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and I think lower, but I really like that cost.
Speaker 1: Mike Clevenger seven to eight, and the more expensive guys
Speaker 1: Luis Garcia at nine to eight and Gonsolin at ten
Speaker 1: to one, so you know you might be able to
Speaker 1: go Gonsolon and Montgomery put those together on FanDuel Garcia
Speaker 1: is eight to seven. Luis Garcia and Tony Gonsolin is
Speaker 1: a cool ten if you want to play both of those.
Speaker 1: That gets us finally to the end here for the
Speaker 1: home run contest. I don't know if I said dee
Speaker 1: Blum's number wrong, because it looks like someone the cards
Speaker 1: is like correcting me. But if I said dee Blum
Speaker 1: did not have forty one, he had forty one. So
Speaker 1: it is forty two forty one in the home run contest.
Speaker 1: And then a couple thirty nine's thirty eight bump up up, up,
Speaker 1: up high Kebby and d Blum at the very top, Claig,
Speaker 1: this is your opportunity. The guests have done. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the percentage is. I want to say it's
Speaker 1: been like forty to forty five, forty to fifty percent calls.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty pretty good. I think this week maybe
Speaker 1: has tapered a little bit back from last week's calls.
Speaker 1: So this is your chance to end the week really strong.
Speaker 1: On the guest seat, so who you got for your
Speaker 1: home run call today?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna take c J. Cron at home
Speaker 2: in course field against Zach Davies. I really like the
Speaker 2: odds here for crawling to hit a bomb.
Speaker 1: Put me on the board.
Speaker 2: I haven't played all year, but you know, give me
Speaker 2: number one on the board here with CJ. Cron.
Speaker 1: It's all good, baby, it's all good. Get it in there.
Speaker 1: I think Bubba has hit one. Pollock hit one. We've
Speaker 1: had a couple. We've had a couple of really good ones.
Speaker 1: I am gonna go with mister activated. It's a Julio weekend. Baby.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a bucks A weekend in a long
Speaker 1: time because they're now Julio weekends Activated. Give me Homer's
Speaker 1: top of the lineup. I'll just take them through the
Speaker 1: whole weekend. Maybe I'm gonna get sat on one, which
Speaker 1: would be unfortunate, but Julia is the type of guy
Speaker 1: bam first. I feel first at bat. Homer too off
Speaker 1: of an injury kind of show. His wrist is feeling fine.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty solid matchup. I'm gonna go Julio Rodriguez
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just take him through the weekend. And
Speaker 1: hopefully Julio can put a couple on the board so
Speaker 1: I can get even more competitive and I can chase
Speaker 1: all of you guys that are rocking with it. Make sure,
Speaker 1: like I said, you can go over to the discord.
Speaker 1: You can get in. There's a welsh Ama. If you
Speaker 1: guys want to ask questions, you can get in on
Speaker 1: the home run contest. You can change your home runs
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Speaker 1: over on fan Tracks, Let's get the plug.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, so you know right at fan Tracks,
Speaker 2: right at Fantasy Pros. Also, so you know weekly at
Speaker 2: Fantasy Pros, I have Quick Grades article and that's actually
Speaker 2: out today as you're listening, So hitter quick Grades for
Speaker 2: each week that I have a kind of formula that
Speaker 2: ranks based on a variety of things, looking at, you know,
Speaker 2: the best hitters for the upcoming week. And I also
Speaker 2: do a prospect stash article at Fantasy Pros and that
Speaker 2: comes out on Tuesdays, so looking at the top prospects
Speaker 2: to stash for redraft and also looking at keeper leagues,
Speaker 2: like top top guys to stash for next year. So
Speaker 2: we've kind of been incorporating that down the stretch. So
Speaker 2: some guys you might want to stash fewer in a
Speaker 2: keeper league. At fan Tracks, you know, I write a
Speaker 2: stack cast article have rankings for dynasty and prospects, and
Speaker 2: then you can catch catch me on the fan Tracks
Speaker 2: tool Shed podcast for there at cross as well covering
Speaker 2: dynasty and prospects. So if you lot that.
Speaker 1: Article, I would love to know who's the top hitter
Speaker 1: for that next Do you have that next week? For Gests?
Speaker 1: I just look at it.
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, A top projected hitter for next week is
Speaker 2: Raphael Devers.
Speaker 1: Let's go, yeah, let's go Ralphie Old Dever. So that's
Speaker 1: starting now. Okay, So there's gonna be my home run
Speaker 1: call for Monday. I'm gonna rock in with Cleig. All right,
Speaker 1: thanks guys, everybody for hanging out with us, everybody in
Speaker 1: the chat, the peanuts and cracker jacks. We did it again,
Speaker 1: but I think a strong ending to the week where
Speaker 1: my mushed brain was killing us, but we picked it
Speaker 1: back up. I think I pulled a save in. I
Speaker 1: didn't get any good pitching grades for the hosting this week,
Speaker 1: but we'll tackle it next week. That's it. Have a
Speaker 1: fantastic weekend, enjoy the baseball, get into those championships stream. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm dying now, I'm going I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna leave. It's well, it's Clegg. I love you guys. Peace,
Speaker 1: Bye bye,