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So congrats and thanks 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: to everybody for buying one of those T shirts. 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: Huge, huge news, And we got a little T shirt 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: tees a little bit later in this show as well. 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: So first question, we'll get to you right here. Hey, 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: no Dunkers. I was born in nineteen ninety eight. I'm 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: twenty one now, so I basically missed all of Michael 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: Jordan's career. Even still, I've studied him. I've written three 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: papers on him in college. I will stand him until 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: the day I die. After watching the last dance and 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: seeing Jordan's shot over Craig Elo, I started to think 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: it's crazy. Elo will go down in history as the 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: guy MJ shotover. Are there any players in the last 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: twenty years that will be remembered for getting embarrassed rather 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 4: than anything they did in their career? Thanks for making 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: the pause and keeping us all entertained. Turn up, love 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: you guys awesome. 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 5: Ps. 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: I mentioned my age only because I never really knew Elo. 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: If he was good, please roast me on the podcast 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: that's from Alex Horton. Now, Elo very serviceable fourteen year career. 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: But I think that just speaks to the point that 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: Alex is making. He will be known as the guy MJ. 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: Shotover because that's how you go down and infamy. And 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 4: I think one of those guys in the last ten years, 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: even we don't have to go back that far, I think, 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: is Brandon Knight guard a little guy DeAndre Jordan crushed 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: with that alleyup dunk over top of him in twenty thirteen. 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: So we're going back seven years and Brandon Knight even 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 4: a better player than Craig di lo in terms of scoring, 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: in terms of being even a borderline All Star one year. 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: The year after he had about eighteen points per game. 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: But he'll be best known for twenty thirteen when Twitter 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: was fairly big. But this is the first time that 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: I remember a hashtag rip somebody that hadn't died in 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: the basketball world that he went basically through the floor. 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: People on Twitter animating a coffin going into the floor 65 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: for Brandon Knight as DeAndre Jordan crushed on him. The 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: DeAndre Jordan's stank face as he turned around. That moment, 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: right there is Brandon Knight's moment. That's really how he 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: will be remembered. 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you put Brandon Knight's name into YouTube, the 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: top three results are all of Brandon Knight's worst fails. 71 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: What's happening to Brandon Knight's NBA career and the death 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: of Brandon Knight? You're exactly right, Test, I think Brandon 73 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Knight's got to be at the top of the list 74 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: of guys we're going to remember for uh low lights 75 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: on the basketball court. 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: I'll try to one up Brandon Knight, and I had 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: him on my list, So I love that pick, don't 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: get me wrong. But what about Alton Lister his dunk, 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: his dunk, it's called the Lister blister Kemp's dunk on him, 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: yet it's called his dunk in a weird way, you 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, and this guy was a 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: pretty decent player at one point in the eighties, and 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: he was like a you know, basically a ten and 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: ten type guy. You don't remember anything about Alton Blister 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: besides getting dunked on by Sean Kemp and literally right, yeah. 86 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: What year was that? 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, that was in the eighties, right, he was. The 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: funny part is he used to play for the Sonics 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: can Alton Lister and then it was well it was 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: in the nineties, right, Yeah, it was I think early nineties. 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, early nineties. 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: Okay, he said twenty years, so you're going back, but 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: he'll write a paper on that. 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: How about a modern day Alton Lister could be timofay Mosgoff, 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: who became a verb for having Blake Griffin basically jump 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: over his head and thrunk the ball in. Once you 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: become a verb, once you become the nickname for somebody 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: else's dunk, it's bad. 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: I throw a Wesley Johnson in there as well, for 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: when James Harden dropped him to the floor, looked at 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: him and then hit the shot as well. Now it's 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: not so much about Wesley Johnson. I think that it 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: is about James Harden, So no one will remember Wesley 105 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: Johnson as much. He's kind of a player that will 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 4: sort of float by, but that was his moment. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's another another guy who's had a couple of 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 6: moments combined. There you got the Swaggy P with a 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 6: miss three. That's that's a pretty much an iconic moment 110 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 6: of Swaggy P. He had that three sixty layup. I 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 6: remember where he did the flip and it went over 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 6: the backboard and then and then just the sort of 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 6: celebrations is that one with power gasol? So people don't 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: necessarily remember Swaggy for his production on the quarter was 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 6: more than what he brought to the entertainment side of 116 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 6: the NBA. I think he's another one in there like 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: that is just the sort of goofy character that he 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 6: was as well. 119 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys out there. I'm sure we're 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: missing something. That's a fun question from Alex next one? 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: What up? No Dustin checks in? Okay. I've been listening 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: since Bill Simmons added TVJ to that grant Land feed 123 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: back in the day, and you have been my favorite 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: pod ever since. I'm holding out hope that we'll get 125 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: to finish the twenty nineteen twenty NBA season at some point. 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: If we don't, however, I'd like to know what each 127 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: of you would choose as your play of the year. 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Beverly blocking Lebron Hard and step back on Beverly, Tatum 129 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: dropping Paul George Marcus Smart's crazy save, maybe a Yokich, 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: a Bogdanovic game winner. Those are a few that come 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: to mind. Turn up that question from Adam so play 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: of the year. If this season is a rap I 133 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: think it is. If this was tough by U ended 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: up watching you know, a good twenty twenty five minutes 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: of NBA highlights in getting ready for this, So that 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: was fun. It was refreshing to just be watching basketball 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: from you know, not too long ago. I'm gonna go 138 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Bugdanovic's game winning three versus the Rockets. That's to me 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the craziest shot. I'm not Player of the Year, it's 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: gotta be on the short list, the one where he 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: got like fouled like two times because they have, you know, 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: so little time to get it off, don't do you 143 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: guys agree? Disagree? Is there's something else you have in 144 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the mix. 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 6: As someone who's not a huge James Harden fan. I 146 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 6: did love that step back on Beverly because Beverly, we know, 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: loves to think of himself as pretty much a lockdown 148 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 6: defender and James Harden just shook him and knocked it in. 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 6: It was an incredible play. 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: Really. 151 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 6: I've also got two plays, Alex Caruso's two put back 152 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 6: dunks that just came out of nowhere. 153 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: The player of the year. 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 6: Ah, I go watch him again, man, watch him again, 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 6: like no expect he does one over like three of 156 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 6: his team mates, and then he does one. I have 157 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 6: a dwat in Denver as well. It's it's incredible. 158 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Just because so he dunked on his own teammates twice 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: and you're telling me it's the plays of the year. 160 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, man, just watch it back again. It's like, 161 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 6: it's pretty special. You get up out of your chair 162 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: watching that. 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: I guarantee it sequence of the year. I think you 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: could maybe argue Zach Lavine's come back at the end 165 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: of the game against the Hornets, and it's so early 166 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: in the season. You'll see it early in a lot 167 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: of the highlight tapes for the years. But I'm ultimately 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: going with Patrick Beverly's little block slash striple lebron just 169 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: because to me, that might be the closest we get 170 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: to a playoff moment this season. It comes down to 171 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: the last possession. It's two great teams who we assume 172 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: would be playing in the Western Conference Finals if we 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: ever got to see the playoffs. It was on national TV. 174 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: It was a Christmas game, so there's a huge audience. 175 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: Just the the enormity of that moment to me kind 176 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: of stands out, you know, being too LA teams and 177 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: actually seeing the Clippers beat the Lakers. 178 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: It's it's tough there, It's it's kind of ambiguous. These 179 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 4: all these are sort of on the same level. So 180 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: when I looked at all of them, I went with 181 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: a Kobe related play because this year is about Kobe, 182 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: And when Lebron dunked that two handed reverse kind of 183 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: rocked the baby to sleep a little bit two weeks 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: after Kobe's death in the Staple Center, almost nineteen years 185 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: to the day that Kobe did it on the exact 186 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: same rim, and Lebron cherished that picture that Andy Bernstein 187 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: took her that dunk looking up at him from the baseline. 188 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: He blew it up immediately. Lebron was so excited after 189 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: the game, and he gave us this great quote as well. Ever, 190 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: see the movie The Six Man referencing Marlin's Wayne movie 191 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety seven, Kobe came down, put himself in 192 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: my body and gave me that dunk on that break. 193 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 4: So to me, that's the one that I'm going to 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: remember because all these other ones. Yeah, Patrick Covley's a 195 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: really really good one, but that one's going to stand 196 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: up for me. 197 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: That's good. But what about maybe the theme of the 198 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty season was missing purposely missing free throws and 199 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: somehow shots out of your team's ass, because I think 200 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you could include I think it was Tatum right, it 201 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: was a TNT game, or maybe it was a Saturday 202 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: night game. It was a big game on on national 203 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: television where he missed the three on purpose and Jalen 204 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Brown hit a game tying three if you remember that game, 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: thinking maybe it was that against the Clippers. 206 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 6: No, it was the Rockets. I think the Rockets, thank you, 207 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah. 208 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: And then and then of course the darn Fox one 209 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: where he misses it and has hit a layup before 210 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: anyone even realized what the hell had happens. Maybe there's 211 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: a theme there too, although I think the correct answer 212 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: it's Steven Adams half court shot versus the Pelicans when 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: he dropped the shimmy after lead. 214 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember, yeah, yeah yeah, he just shove folded 215 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: the ball in from from half court. 216 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 3: You never seen that before. And then it was a 217 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: beautiful shimmy too. It was from Steven Adams, it was. 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: It was again another good one for all you out there. 219 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Hit us up on Twitter. Would we miss next? 220 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 5: Email here? 221 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: Good morning lads, long time, first time, all that good stuff, 222 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: Thanks for all the content. I've been a fan for 223 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: over a decade now and I'm genuinely proud to see 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: the growth of the collective. My homemade TB J shirt 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: still takes pride of place in my wardrobe. Now to 226 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: the question, Sean Marks recently stated that Kevin Durant would 227 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 4: decide when he was one hundred percent ready to go 228 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: and wouldn't rule out a return this year due to 229 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 4: the postponement of the season or playoffs. I think it's 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: pretty unlikely, but what the hell, let's play hypothetical if 231 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 4: Durant and Kyrie Irving came back to the Nets roster, 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: got their six game warm up in and the playoffs 233 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: then started with the Nets be an immediate contender with 234 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: Kyrie Lavert, Joe Harris, Durant and Jared Allen, along with 235 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: din Wittie, DeAndre Jordan and Prince Torrian Prince off the 236 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: bench would be able to take a series or two. 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: Would those dudes take a series or two? 238 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: I can only assume it would come down to how 239 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: quickly they could create some chemistry and if they'd be 240 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: willing to play for Jacque Van in the short term, 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: because that's a lot of talent. What do you guys think, 242 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: big big love. That's from Tristan in Goldburn, Australia. 243 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: No, this is every Raptors fans nightmare, right, Like this 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: sort of scenario if the season is picked up later 245 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: in the summer or whatever, if it does come back 246 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: and we go into the playoffs and it's a two 247 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: seven matchup Raptors nets and as a Raps fan, you know, 248 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: prior to the possibility of these stars coming back, you're 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: like feeling pretty good. That should be another you know, 250 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: advancement paths the first round. But man, if Katie and 251 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie are there and they're healthy, hell yeah, they can 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: beat the Raptors. I mean they could. They could beat 253 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: so many teams I think in the Eastern Conference. If 254 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: Katie is at I mean in this hypothetical near perfect health. 255 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I think so. I think you add him to a 256 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: team with obviously some talent around him, then you're in 257 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: the East. Yeah, you're you're a contender. 258 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree with you, and Tristan 259 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: mentions having some time to create chemistry that would be great. 260 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: But I also think one of the advantages that the 261 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: Nets would have in this situation, if Durant comes back 262 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: and he's even you know, eighty five ninety percent, is 263 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: that you wouldn't necessarily need the chemistry if you're just 264 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: going one on one with Kyrie and then one on 265 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: one with Kevin durand the entire time. Right the playoffs 266 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: become one on one game already, and they would be 267 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: rolling out two of the best one on one players 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: in the league. That could be a pretty formidable team, 269 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But shout out to Kristin Tristan 270 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: sending us big big love. Also a big, big week 271 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: for Jacques Vaughn. He was a choice in Yeah It's 272 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: a choice in the Trivia podcast and now what a 273 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: reminder that he is actually the coach of the Nets 274 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: right now. Remember when Kenny Atkinson was fired in the 275 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: middle of the season and then suddenly it was shut 276 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: down a couple of weeks later. 277 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's a on paper, that's a very very 278 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 6: good lineup that the Nets have, but of course we 279 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: probably won't ever get to see it all because Joe 280 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 6: Harris is a free agent and whether or not they 281 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 6: will move on from one or two of those other 282 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 6: players to make room really for Kevin and Kyrie to 283 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 6: control the pace there for the Nets. So I think yes, 284 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: if the playoffs were to start tomorrow and Kevin Durant 285 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 6: is healthy and we know that he's been working out 286 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: or prior to the season suspension, he was working out 287 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 6: looking good, so he's got a few extra months to 288 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: get himself ready. Mean absolutely, if he's you know, if 289 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 6: he's anywhere near the sort of player he was before 290 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: the injury, then they're going to be a tough out 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: the Nets. But you know, again with these things, he 292 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 6: and Kyrie have never played together, so it would take 293 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 6: a little bit of an adjustment, you would think. And 294 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: if they were going up against a team like the 295 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: Raptors who have been together for a while now and 296 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: they've got that continuity, I would still pick the Raptors 297 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 6: to win that series. But I think that the Nets, 298 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 6: you know, could certainly make it into six or seven games. 299 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't pick the Raptors to win that series. 300 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: I think Kevin Durant the way he looked in Game 301 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: five of the finals, even in that first quarter after 302 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: coming back and then getting injured quickly thereafter, we were there. 303 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to be on the floor to 304 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: watch that dude warm up. He was already the best 305 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,359 Speaker 4: player on the floor in the first quarter. He was ridiculous. 306 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: And so would he do it? Does it feel like 307 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: he'd be coming back too soon if he came back 308 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: in the playoffs? 309 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: Probably not. 310 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: I think, you know, he's taking his time, way more 311 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: time than he took to come back against the Raptors. 312 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: But you know, I thought, why would he do Why 313 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't he just give himself a camp, like if we're 314 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: thinking logistically here. But then I heard Iron Eagle, the 315 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: great NETS broadcaster, on Mike Francesca's show, and he said, 316 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: you know, if he waits till the season next year, 317 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: even if it starts in December, perhaps he'd be waiting 318 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: twenty months to play basketball, and that's a really long time. 319 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: So I was sort of leaning towards KD coming back 320 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: and exacting some revenge on those Toronto Raptors that would beat. 321 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: His Golden State Warriors. 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: Man, that's I would pick those two dudes because they yeah, 323 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: they haven't played together, but isoball like you said, Trey, 324 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: that's that's that's enough man, when you've got two of 325 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: the best. 326 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: It would be a crazy hypothetical in a way to 327 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: test just how important building team chemistry is though, right, 328 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: like how much time you need, because not only would 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: you have the Nets having none of it with their 330 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: star players, and like Trey said, I think he made 331 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: some stud points there, like maybe that's oddly great for 332 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: them offensively at least, you know, sort of their one 333 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: on one style. Maybe it works. But the flip side 334 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: of that is the Raptors maybe better suited, or you 335 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: would think than a lot of these teams just having 336 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: these vets that have played so much together that they're 337 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: sort of like that rock, that foundation that they come 338 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: in with. If it were to start back up, like 339 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: that's you know, you think that would be a plus. Right, 340 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: It'd be a nice like clash of like which one 341 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: really matters? Does it really truly matter to have that 342 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: you know so many years together, go into war together 343 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: obviously trying to figure out how to win playoff series 344 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: in big games, or can you just have this incredible 345 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: talented player in KDI and also Irving and just let 346 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: them go wild? So it would be crazy to watch it, actually, 347 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean again, as a RAPS fan, personally, I would 348 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: be scared. I don't think the Nets would run over 349 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: the Reps. I'd like to point that out. I think 350 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: they could easily beat them, but I think it would 351 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: be a hell a hell of a series. Suddenly, it 352 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a four to zero or four to one 353 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: win for the REPS. I mean, now you're looking at 354 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: probably a six to seven game series where any team 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: could win. And god, it's tough to bet against KD 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: healthy KD in that situation. But gotta be fun, Yeah, 357 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. 358 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: Not only are we breaking down a hypothetical playoff series 359 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: right now, we're even breaking down if players who haven't 360 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: played this entire season come back to face off in 361 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: this hypothetical playoff series. This is double hypothetical. It's getting 362 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: crazy out here, and. 363 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: Lee, I got a fact check you. I hate to 364 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: be a Schuman on you, but you know, come on, 365 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie and KD. They played in two All Star Games together. 366 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: Well they played probably played for Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 367 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: So they're you know, they're they're set, They're set, all right. 368 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Next one here, Hey, no dunker Reno's This one's from 369 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Ned Flanders apparently. Now I hope you're all well. I'm 370 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: at the stage of quarantine slash basketball jones ing, where 371 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: I've started talking myself into next season hypotheticals to get 372 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: excited for. For example, I considered what a Wizard's team 373 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: with a healthy and improved John Wall would look like. 374 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Word is, he's added a reliable three point stroke to Arsenal. 375 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: With Wall, Beale, Ruey and Berton's forming the core, I 376 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: feel like the Wizards would be a lot better than 377 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: people might think. 378 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, where did you get that word about John Wall's 379 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 6: three point stroke? 380 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: I haven't seen that much. 381 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I guess I didn't know that either. 382 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: On the street. 383 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: What are some hypotheticals you've been mulling over hoping to 384 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: see next season? Love the show, turn up, love you 385 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: guys awesome. That's from Dan in Scotland. 386 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: I'm with you, Danny. I love the John Wall talk. 387 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: I love it. 388 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 4: I love he doesn't need to add a three point 389 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: shot to be great. I'm not buying that he has 390 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: added that. We've seen him in layup lines. All he 391 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: does is throw it up and go grab it and 392 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: throw down a reverse dunk, and he looks good doing it. 393 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: He didn't have a three point stroke really before he 394 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: ruptured his Achilles still was one of the better point 395 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: guards in the league. I think it comes down to. 396 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: Is he grown? 397 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: Is he is he a mature basketball player now? I 398 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 4: think that's what all comes out to. I heard him 399 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: in an interview on NBA TV recently and he was 400 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: talking about, yeah, coming into the league, you know where 401 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: I came from getting all this money. I think it's 402 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: understandable that I wasn't the most mature player doing the 403 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: absolute right things. It's, you know, sort of reminiscent of 404 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: what Scottie Pippen is saying in the Last Dance. To 405 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: some degree, he's he was out there having some fun, 406 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: but now he'll be thirty next season. He sees Bradley 407 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: Beal develop into this great player. I think there could 408 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: be a maturity connection there, and I don't think the 409 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 4: Achilles is really going to slow him down. 410 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 5: I don't know. 411 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: It just feels like guys come back from injuries and 412 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: they're entirely fine. And John Wall probably had a gear 413 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: that he could slow down to anyways and still be 414 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: an amazing player, you know, aside from those two guys, 415 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: you know, with Ruey and Thamas Berton's I don't I'm 416 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: not really concerned about that, even though they have probably 417 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: some wiggle room starting next year because the Mahemi contract 418 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: comes off. Those two guys are the ones getting paid. 419 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: They're getting paid seventy million smacks next year, so they're 420 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: going to have to lead the team. But I don't 421 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: know those two guards. It's always been intriguing. They've always 422 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: been They've always been decent. And if John wal can 423 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: bring it up to another level to match Bradley Beal, 424 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 4: if these two guys can be lifers in Washington as 425 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: they as Bradley Beal has said he wants to be, 426 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm intrigued too. I do want to see that happen. 427 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: John Wall has another level to go to. Does anyone 428 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: really believe that he's not? I guess he's still in 429 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: his prime. I always think he's older than he is. 430 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: But I'm skeptical he's going to be better than you know, 431 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: the twenty three and ten type of John Wall we 432 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: saw a couple of years ago. 433 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: No, I don't think he's gonna have I don't think 434 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: he's going to be another level. 435 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 6: No, it feels like he hasn't played for years. I mean, 436 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: I know it's been all of last season, and and 437 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 6: we're prior to that, he missed a lot of games 438 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 6: as well through injuries, and you know, to lose your 439 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: achilles heel, the achilles tendon like he did, I mean, 440 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: a lot of guys struggle to come back, you know, 441 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 6: because one of the things that made John Wore special 442 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: was his speed and his ability to you know, just 443 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: to break down defenders and get into the paint. And 444 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: now that's going to be the question if he can't 445 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 6: do that, and for someone who doesn't have a great 446 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: shot anyway, he's really going to have to find another 447 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 6: way to be effective, and that's going to be the challenge. 448 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 6: I mean, he is still you know, he's still got 449 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: a lot of career left to play. But you know, 450 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 6: there are there have been other players, I mean Isaiah Thomas, 451 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 6: it ended his career. He was a little bit older, 452 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 6: than John Well, not much, but it ended his career 453 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: when he blew his achilles tendon, so that, you know, 454 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: that's interesting with John Wall. I mean, I think if 455 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 6: he's able to be effective, then the Wizards can still 456 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 6: be a playoff contender. But if he you know, if 457 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 6: his shot isn't reliable, then it's going to be tough 458 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 6: to see how he can be the dominant player that 459 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 6: he once was there in Washington. 460 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: We're going to be getting Basically, it feels like the 461 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: longest preseason of all time. And during the preseason you 462 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: can talk yourself into any team. I've never really taken 463 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: a John Wall and Bradley Beal team together, but when 464 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: you see Wall, bial Ruey and Burtha lined up, You're like, 465 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm in you guys are gonna score one hundred and 466 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: fifty points a night. We'll see how it actually plays out. 467 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: And if you need to have more than four players 468 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: on a team, I don't know. Another great hypothetical is 469 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: what are the Warriors gonna be like next season? Clay 470 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: will be back, Steph will be back, Draymond will be 471 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: coming off the most rest in five seasons. They got 472 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: a top four pick, which they could either draft and 473 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: develop for the future, or move it to try and 474 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: bring in some veteran help. Andrew Wiggins is around, maybe 475 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: being in a winning environment will help him. Eric Pascal 476 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: was a decent find this season. You know, they're the 477 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: worst team in the league, but I don't think anybody 478 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: expects them to be the worst team once everybody is 479 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: back on the court. 480 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: It's funny you brought up the Warriors, because that's all 481 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I think about when we talk about the current day 482 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Wizards is in the nineties, we kept talking ourselves into 483 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: how great the Warriors would be the next season. I 484 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: would stink, and then we'd say, oh, they're going to 485 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: be amazing the next season, and then they'd be the 486 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: exact same. I mean, I remember doing that time and 487 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: time again with the Warriors, and that's the vibe I 488 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: get of the Wizards. I like, you know, I like 489 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: a lot of their players. I get excited too, and 490 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: then they're just still the Wizards and it's a little 491 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: disappointing in the end. That's where I'm at with them. 492 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: The hypothetical then I'm excited to mull over thinking about 493 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: it's the actually the young Grizzlies, because you know, we've 494 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: talked about this before in the podcast. How comparable in 495 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: my opinion at least John Morant is to Penny Hardaway 496 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: early in his career. And when you look at Penny 497 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: as a rookie, you know, putting up sixteen seven and 498 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: six on a very good magic team, a team that 499 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: won fifty games, and then you compare that to what 500 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: John Morant was doing. You know, likely gonna win Rookie 501 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: of the Year if we ever handout of that award, 502 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe getting his Grizzlies into the playoffs a five hundred team, 503 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: not a fifty win team, but a pretty surprising five 504 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: hundred team. Well, the next year, Penny went next level. 505 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Like in his sophomore NBA season, he went to twenty 506 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: points per game, the efficiency skyrocket, he started the All 507 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Star Game, Orlando won fifty seven games, best offense in 508 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: the league. All that made it all the way to 509 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the finals. Now, John Morant doesn't have Shaquille O'Neil I 510 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: get that, but has hopefully a healthy Jaron Jack junior 511 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: in the Canadian connection in Clark and Brooks. So I'm 512 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: just sort of like thinking of, like, do the Grizzlies 513 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: make that sort of immediate jump to being Wow, they're 514 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: a damn good team. Not the finals bound or anything, 515 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: but like, wow, they're like one of the better teams 516 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: in the league suddenly being very young, because can they 517 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: replicate what you know Penny did? Can John Morant replicate 518 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: what Penny did? So that's team I've been thinking about. 519 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: Would you have said something similar about the Sacramento Kings 520 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: heading into the nineteen twenty season. Probably That's the question, right, 521 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: is how good do these teams get when they actually 522 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: have a little bit of a focus on them. Right, 523 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: It's easy to be the surprise team. It's a little 524 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: bit harder when you're actually getting circled on schedule. 525 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh you think, oh yeah, exactly exactly. I mean, I 526 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: think you could. I could convince myself, especially because I 527 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: believe in John Moran that much that he's like, yeah, 528 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: they're a fifty five win team. And then you're right, Trey, 529 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: It's like, no, welcome to the hard reality of the NBA. 530 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Everybody's ready for you. Now, everybody's scouting you. 531 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: Now. 532 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: Now they're not how to play you. They're gonna take 533 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: away this, take away that, And suddenly they're a worse 534 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: team right record wise, and here there and all that, So, No, 535 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: I hear you. It's like a huge swing between like 536 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: a twenty game win swing that you could see in 537 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: a potential Grizzlies team next year. 538 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Progress isn't always linear, unfortunately, and it can 539 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: feel like such a kick in the nuts when your 540 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: team seems like they're on the upswing and then suddenly 541 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: you're back out of the playoff mix. 542 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 4: That's swing cash to the next email. What's up, No Dunks? 543 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: What is the worst comparison of all time? On NBA 544 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: Draft Night two? That come to mind? Adam Morrison was 545 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: supposed to be the next Larry Bird and Ojmail was 546 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: compared to Kobe Bryant. Can't wait to hear your answers. 547 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: That's from Adam and Lincoln Illinois. 548 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 5: PS. 549 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: Just got my Chicago edition No Dunks Tea. Love it already, Yeah, 550 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: if you want to purchase that No Dunks dot Com again. 551 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: All proceeds going to the American Nurses Foundation. 552 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: Big shout out to Lincoln, Illinois as well, where my 553 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: dad went to college, Lincoln Christian College. He tells me 554 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: they were ranked top three in the nation among other 555 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: Christian college I'm like, okay, Dad, I can't imagine the 556 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: competition was that crazy. But if we're talking about draft comparisons, 557 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: the all time worst is NBA draft dot Net. They 558 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: compared Deshaun Stevenson coming out of high school in two 559 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: thousand to Michael Jordan. It has been around so long 560 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: that they had to put up a note on it 561 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: on their website because they didn't take it down. Kudos 562 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: to them. But on June twenty fifth, twenty fifteen, they 563 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: put an edit scouting a report in comparison to the 564 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: Goat where written while Stevenson was in high school and 565 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: assumed to be headed to Kansas. Lesson learned, never compare 566 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: anyone to Michael Jordan. This was two thousand. This s 567 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: I was just getting started. Go watch a tape of 568 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: Deshaun Stevenson in high school. He was incredible, one of 569 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: the most spectacular seventeen year old wings you could ever see. 570 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: Not going to college had a catastrophic effect on him. 571 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: It seems enjoyable. Everyone discrediting our expertise by bringing up 572 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: the year two thousand Deshaun Stevenson compared to mj We 573 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: never went back and changed his comparison after it was 574 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: originally made. Here's my favorite part. Apologies to mj Hey. 575 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: The Sports Leader compared Marshon Brooks to Kobe Bryant just 576 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: a few years ago. The other large NBA draft site 577 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: compared Greg Polus to John Stockton. Nobody wants to bring 578 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: that up. You gotta be pretty off on your draft 579 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: comparison to write a Mia Kolpa. Fifteen years later, that 580 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: being said, Deshaun Stevenson was the number twenty three pick, 581 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 2: So maybe they were right there. 582 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 6: You go to be. 583 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing, you know. 584 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 6: It's it's like when people go in the voice and 585 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: they try to sing a Michael Jackson song, It's like, 586 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 6: don't go to one of the greatest singers of all time. 587 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: Just go middle of the range. 588 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: You know. 589 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 6: It's the same thing when they were writing this comparison 590 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 6: on Michael Jordan. It's like, how could you possibly expect 591 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 6: anyone to live up to that sort of a comparison? 592 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: Lee, who would be my little Lee? Who would be 593 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: a middle of the range singer in your opinion? 594 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 6: Hmmm, good question, good question, I would say, let me 595 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 6: think about that. 596 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: Let me that's a tough one. 597 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: That's the time you guys Williams on the high end, though, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 598 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: well well yeah, I mean he's he's the all around 599 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: entertainment package. 600 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: What about Usher. 601 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 6: Usher is a good singer entertainer, but I wouldn't put 602 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 6: Usher in the super elite bracket by any means about Actually, okay, yeah, 603 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: I think my all time favorite comparison though, is that 604 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 6: also the Adam Morrison to Larry Bird. I mean, because 605 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: you know, we saw Adam Morrison in college and it 606 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 6: was like he was a good player. But I mean, 607 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 6: did anyone just go, yep, that's Larry two point zero 608 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 6: right there? 609 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: No, of course, not people who hadn't seen Larry Bird, 610 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: I guess even. 611 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: Still even still, come on, no one's going like, oh man, 612 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 6: I missed the Larry Bird here, but here it is 613 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 6: in Adam Morrison. 614 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 7: No way. 615 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe they didn't see Larry Bird play, but they 616 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: saw a picture of him and said, hey, Adam Morrison, 617 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: you look similar. 618 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's all it is. That's all it is, like, hey, 619 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: that's a pretty tall white guy with a weird luck 620 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: to him. He's got a stash and crazy hair. Larry 621 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Bird two point zero. Yeah, that's really all that happened. 622 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Although he was good in college too, I mean, not 623 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: discredit him. He was a baller in college and didn't 624 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: have quite the NBA career though we got a championship. 625 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 6: Right, So ironically it was Jordan who drafted Adam Harrison too, 626 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 6: wasn't it? 627 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: So he thought he was Larry Bird all right? Anything else? 628 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Any other comparisons task. 629 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: A well, Bruno Koboco is this standard? Two years away 630 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: from two years away with Frank for Schilla line he 631 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: was the Brazilian Kevin Durant still hasn't panned out quite yet, 632 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: but you never know. 633 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: There's still time yet. 634 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: And Duan Blair was Charles Barkley. 635 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: Once upon a time, A yeah, yeah little. 636 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: Guy, a little, little, little round guy, but didn't work 637 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 4: out all right? 638 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Next one, h know, dunk a use Tass said we 639 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: have to have a hashtag who says no in each 640 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: beach step in podcast, So I'm trying to come up 641 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: with one. Any thoughts on a Devin Booker for Ben 642 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Simmons straight up trade Simmons is a better playmaking star 643 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: who could help other teams. It's Booker, great spacer and 644 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: closing option paired with embiid hashtag who says no. This 645 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: is from Justin from Hong kom. 646 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know I love her? Who says no, 647 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: I love getting into the trade machine. 648 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look. 649 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: I mean on the surface, it basically it would allow Booker, 650 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 6: you know, as more of a floor spacer and more 651 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 6: of a shooter, and he can still play the point 652 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 6: guard role. But you obviously sacrifice Ben Simmons as playmaking 653 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 6: and defense there of the Sixers, but this and for 654 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: the Suns, I mean, yeah, like sure, why not? Why 655 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 6: you know, take Ben Simmons if you can get a 656 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: chance for him. But I don't know, I don't know. 657 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 6: Devin book is an interesting player at an interesting stage 658 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: of his career because we've been waiting for him to 659 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 6: sort of take that leap and to be able to 660 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: carry his team and he hasn't really been able to 661 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 6: do that yet. He's been able to score, we know that, 662 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 6: but is he really able to take a team like 663 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 6: a James Harden type way that the Harden's done for 664 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 6: the Rockets right now? I would say probably not. And 665 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 6: again maybe it's the situation there in Phoenix for Devin Booker. 666 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 6: He hasn't had a huge, great supporting cast around him. 667 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 6: I don't think he's won more than thirty games in 668 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 6: his brief career yet, so you know, but he's got 669 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 6: a definitely got a silky smooth shot and and you know, 670 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 6: in the right situation he may thrive better than he 671 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 6: has done so far in Phoenix. I mean, again, the 672 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: numbers are fine, but there certainly hasn't been the success 673 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 6: behind it, whereas Ben Simmons has shown already that he 674 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 6: has been an integral part of Philadelphia's you know, playoff 675 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 6: success so far in his career. 676 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: So both say, you know, both say yes, yeah, you know, I. 677 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 6: Mean, like it's the thing is obviously it's not going 678 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 6: to happen. You know, it's not really aren't ringing up 679 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 6: Phoenix and Phoenix aren't calling up feelings, Liz make this deal. 680 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 6: So I'm just I'm just trying to like give it some. 681 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: Well the deal doesn't happen, it actually happens. 682 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. 683 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 6: There's a lot of hypotheticals out there today. 684 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: Says no. 685 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think do you think ESPN, I don't know, 686 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: maybe it gets redirected right to Kevin Pelton or something 687 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: like that. Do you think they have the ability to 688 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: see which player has been punched into the trade machine 689 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: the most? Because sure, they gotta yeah, they must, right, 690 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: they got they got those numbers. You gotta think Ben 691 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: Simmons is super high on that list, right, because every 692 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: time we do one of these, you know, and you 693 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: see them on Twitter left and right, the idea of 694 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: like splitting up Ben Simmons from Dwell Embiid. So I 695 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: feel like Ben simmons name is in a lot of 696 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: these hypothetical trade machines. 697 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 5: I would have to agree. 698 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he's an obviously successful young player, already on 699 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: a big contract, and he's got clear flaws that you 700 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: can see. So he's kind of the perfect guy to 701 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,239 Speaker 2: throw into the trade machine time and time again, and 702 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: we'll be able to do it for the next five 703 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: years because the guy's under contract for a long time. 704 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: I think Simmons is definitely the better player. I think 705 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: that Booker is going to leave the Suns at some point, 706 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: but I still think the Sons are the team that 707 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: says no, because they would just look at it and say, okay, 708 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: So if we trade for Ben Simmons, we become the 709 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: Simmons an Embiid team, except for r. Embiid doesn't have 710 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: the range of the defense, so I think they'd probably 711 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: rather play it out with a better fit in Ayton 712 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: and Booker. 713 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah that's a weird one because Booker is still ascending 714 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: and still becoming the player he is. But I appreciate 715 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: justin from Hong Kong's ability here, his ingenuity. He took 716 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: two young guys and put them into this. Who says 717 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: no proposal? So you can't worry about age, you can't 718 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: worry about contracts. 719 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 5: Who cares. 720 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: I still think that the Sixers would say no, just 721 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: because of how great a defender Ben Simmons is and 722 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: how specially he is on that end. And yeah, it 723 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: is a strange fit. It would be a strange fit 724 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: with any big man, especially that doesn't have range. But 725 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 4: he's the better player. So I think the Sixers would 726 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: have to play it out. And you just don't know 727 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: what's going to happen with Joel Embid. You still don't know. 728 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: Although apparently, according to reports, Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons 729 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: have been working out at the Sixers training facility since 730 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: the beginning of COVID nineteen. Since since Adam Silver told 731 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: him to shut that facility down, they've been Elton Brand 732 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: came out and said it so strange stuff. 733 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: So I guess they'll be ready. 734 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 6: If you believe TMZ. Kendall Jenner has traded Ben Simmons 735 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 6: for Devin Booker, so you know, maybe that's something we 736 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 6: need to investigate. 737 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: Lee, Man, we need to get basketball back here on 738 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: the gossip site. 739 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: I saw it. I just saw her going around the 740 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: other day. 741 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 6: So it's like, okay, all right, they're both good looking guys, 742 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 6: that's for sure. 743 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: Next one here, I have a question. It's why are 744 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: you all acting like a bunch of no dunks punks? 745 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: I send you a beautifully crafted email that receives no recognition, 746 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: only to hear multiple inferior references to Celtics, browns and 747 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: greens related content. Perhaps it's because I didn't really ask 748 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 4: a question. Okay, let's try again. What's your all compost 749 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: NBA starting five? That's from Greg and British Columbia, Canada. 750 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: I appreciate the persistence. Greg, you didn't ask a question, 751 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: but here you are the main components of a compost. 752 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 4: As you mentioned browns and greens. That's what you're talking about. 753 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: But it doesn't just take those two facets to make 754 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 4: a good compost. That's why a starting unit works great 755 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: thank you so much for this idea. Greg, I'll give 756 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: you my all compost NBA starting five. Here we go, 757 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: starting a center. It's Draymond Green. Yeah, greens are probably 758 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 4: what a composter will have the most of. They're mainly 759 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: food scraps. Draymond Green likes to eat healthy. He used 760 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: to be bigger, but he started to slim down when 761 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 4: he got to the NBA. And what we're looking for 762 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: here are healthy food scraps, vegetable peels, fruit scraps, eggshells. 763 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: We don't want meats, fish, fats, or grease. Those things 764 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 4: bring pests and odors. Dre is a good defender. He'll 765 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 4: keep those out of there. 766 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: Hah. 767 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 4: At Power Forward, it's Jerome Moist. Oh, you gotta keep 768 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: that pile moist. Jerome Moiso played in the early two thousands, 769 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: changed his name slightly for this exercise. A dry pile, 770 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 4: it doesn't decompose. 771 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 5: You need water. 772 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: You can keep your indoor scrapple a little moist to 773 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: ensure your pile then gets wet so you don't have 774 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 4: to add it to the pile afterwards. Just a little 775 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: tip for you composters out there. At Small Forward, Chucky 776 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: Brown Brown played for twelve teams, twelve tying the NBA 777 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: record and like Chucky playing everywhere, you gotta look for 778 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 4: your browns everywhere. It's not easy finding enough browns to 779 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 4: meet your greens quota. I don't find it simple. This 780 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 4: is a difficult issue for composters out there. Some compost 781 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: manuals instruct a two to one browns to greens ratio. 782 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 4: Some say three to one, some say thirty to one. 783 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 5: Lucky for you. 784 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: See, you got a lot of steep sticks and leaves 785 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, the more browns you have, the faster 786 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: your pile is going to decompose. I think that's what 787 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: it comes down to. But one to one is fine, 788 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 4: it's totally frank. But even that I find is hard, 789 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: especially our modern day city living. You gotta be resourceful 790 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 4: because they're not easy to find. Dried leaves, paper bags, 791 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 4: and newspaper. Sawdust, you see, it's not easy getting into sawdust. 792 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 4: Who has sawdust just lying around? 793 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: I like that you went with Chucky Brown too, because 794 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, don't chuck that in the garbage, throw 795 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: it in the compost. Chuck it in the compost. 796 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 4: You got you're read my next line. You can't just chucky. 797 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: You can't just chucky anything in there and call it 798 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: a brown skin. At Shooting Guard, it's air. Michael Jordan. 799 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: An important ingredient to a compost is air. It's very 800 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: important in your receptacle. You gotta have little air pockets, 801 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 4: little air holes. Some people have those huge cones if 802 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: you've ever seen those, where you dig a hole and 803 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: you put your compost in it and there's just not 804 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 4: enough air coming into the compost. 805 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 5: It's like a fire. 806 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 4: You can't just throw sticks on top of each other 807 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 4: and hope the thing lights. You need some air pockets 808 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 4: in there. So we have the four ingredients. Greens, which 809 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 4: are nitrogen, water, browns, which is carbon, and air. Greens, water, browns, air. 810 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 4: At Point Guard, what are we doing? World be free 811 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 4: be free to put anything in the world in that compost. 812 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 4: It'll decompose. Don't you worry about it. It's science, it'll 813 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 4: figure itself out. And also world be freeze nickname, one 814 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 4: of his many nicknames is Brownsville Bomber. So threw that 815 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 4: in there because he's got a little brown tie. 816 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, do you think we'll be hearing Michael Jordan 817 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: on the Last Dance, Episode seven, to eight talk about 818 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: composting would be awesome. 819 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 6: He had a key ingredient in the composting. Well does 820 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 6: that teammate Dennis Rudman, Yeah. 821 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he played also played against a lot of 822 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 4: games against a C. Green who also almost almost entered 823 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 4: the starting five. He follows strict rules in his life, 824 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 4: so compost game very similar. 825 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 5: You gotta follow strict rules. Yeah. 826 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: And those cigar leaves from from Michael's cigars. I think 827 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: we compost really really nicely. 828 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 1: All right, we had to think outside the compost box there. 829 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: Tasked with your all compost NBA started five because I 830 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: thought you were just yeah, I thought you would just 831 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: go Greens and rounds. Keep it. I mean there's a 832 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: million Greens and Browns that have played in the NBA. No, 833 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: he goes next level. 834 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 4: I've seen those cones before. You know, those cones they 835 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 4: don't work. They have those air pockets at the at 836 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 4: the top. You need an air Michael Jordan, you need 837 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 4: Drome moisto to go along with your Draymond Greens and 838 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 4: Chucky Brown's excellent stuff. 839 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: Excellent stuff. All right, Well, we got a lot more questions. 840 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: Still the answer here, But before we do a quick 841 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: word from one of our sponsors. 842 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: From Landscaping the man Escaping. 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He had a 909 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: shooting percentage of sixty six point seven percent during the 910 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: final series. He grabbed at least one rebound when he played. 911 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: But the most important contribution for winning the championship has 912 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: to be his foul on d Wade in Game five. 913 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: Wade bruised his hip and could not perform to his 914 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: full potential in the remainder of the series MAVs win. 915 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: Which other guy from the end of the bench should 916 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: have won Finals MVP in recent years? Swish you all 917 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: the best. That's from Stefan from Cologne, Germany. Maybe one 918 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: of my favorite emails pitching the case that Brian Cardinal 919 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: actually deserved Finals MVP in twenty eleven. What a case. 920 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: He just made one rebound per game. That's a compelling 921 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 2: case the victory. These are the only number you really need. 922 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: And in a similar vein, I think you got to 923 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: give David Lee the twenty fifteen Finals MVP for the Warriors. 924 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 2: Didn't play the first two games of the series. It 925 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: was one one and Lebron was honestly controlling that series. 926 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: Remember everybody was comparing it to a running football team 927 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: the way he would just bring it up, hold the 928 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: ball basically as long as he could before making some 929 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: sort of play. But in the fourth quarter of Game three, 930 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 2: David Lee finally got his first real run of the series. 931 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: He was a plus sixteen, went four for four, had 932 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 2: a couple of assists. The Warriors still lost the game, 933 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: but that was the blueprint for how they were going 934 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: to beat the Cavs that year. The next game, Andrea 935 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 2: Guadala goes to the starting lineup for Andrew Boge and 936 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 2: the Warriors win the next three games by fourteen points 937 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: a piece. That was kind of the official beginning of 938 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 2: what would become the death lineup. The next year, and 939 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have happened if David Lee just didn't get 940 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: a little taste there in game three. 941 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: There you go. David Lee is the new Brian Cardinal, 942 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: the Castodian right. 943 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 4: It's a real tough one to pull somebody deep from 944 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 4: the bench. David Lee's a good one. I just went 945 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 4: with Fred van Vliet from last year, who was a bencher, 946 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 4: but not a deep bencher. He had that twelve point 947 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: fourth quarter, twelve points to seal the deal in game six. 948 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 4: He scored fifteen to seventeen eleven, eight eleven, and then 949 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 4: twenty two in Game six, And that's why Huby Brown 950 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 4: gave Fred van Vliez an actual MVP vote. You crazy man, 951 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 4: Huby Brown. He did play great, but come on, Hube, 952 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 4: come on, hub that's nuts. 953 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 6: What about Sasha Vujacic in twoenty ten Finals Game seven. 954 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 6: He only played the final twelve seconds of that game. 955 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 6: Lakers were up two points and he stepped the free 956 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 6: throw line and had to hit two free throws to 957 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 6: basically steal the game. 958 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. 959 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he played throughout the series, but literally 960 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 6: to come in that cold and have a chance to 961 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 6: really ice the game and he knowed him and you guys, no, 962 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 6: I love a good free throw. So yeah, so I 963 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 6: think that was a pretty important moment. 964 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: All right, next one here, This is from Eugene in Moscow. 965 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 5: Hey, no dunks. 966 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 4: I've been a Bulls fan since Derek Rose's first Back then, 967 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 4: I tried to watch every Bulls game, but didn't consume 968 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 4: other content about the league, like TV shows or podcasts. 969 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 4: When my Bulls fell apart and Jimmy Butler left, I 970 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: just watched the big games, but started to catch every 971 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 4: starter show and drop podcast the last couple of seasons. 972 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 4: I tried to watch the Bulls at the start of 973 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 4: the season, but you know, it wasn't all that satisfying. 974 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: So this season I'm consuming like a dozen podcasts or 975 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 4: shows about the NBA and watching almost zero games. Well 976 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 4: here's the question, and Lee does a great accent, So Lee, 977 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 4: you want to strain the question. 978 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 6: My question is do you have some theme interest to 979 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 6: a hobby that you don't actually do, but consume content 980 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 6: about it? 981 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 2: The count has arrived. 982 00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: That's from Genet. I think I've said this before. I 983 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: feel like we've had a similar question before, at least, 984 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: or at least why I brought this up. But the 985 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: Masked Man Show on The Ringer podcast Network, hosted by 986 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: David Shoemaker, it's about wrestling. I consume it religiously. I 987 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: mean I almost listen to every single episode and they're 988 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: talking about wrestling, and I almost never watch it outside 989 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: of the odd like WrestleMania or maybe you know, a 990 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: Royal Rumble or something. So it's just the way to 991 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: keep up sort of on I don't read any other 992 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: websites about wrestling, you know, nothing like that. It's this 993 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: is how I sort of stay a very casual wrestling 994 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: fan by listening to The Masked Man Show, and it 995 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: works perfectly. 996 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: It makes you wonder would you be able to be 997 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 2: a fan of Like if somebody just did a great 998 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: podcast on Days of Our Lives and you're just hearing 999 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: these dramatic stories that are not all that different from 1000 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 2: wrestling stories, I guess, kind of just minus the body slams. 1001 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, if somebody was good enough, could you just 1002 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: become a soap opera fan from listening to podcasts? 1003 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: I think so. I feel like a wrestling fan even 1004 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: though I don't even watch it, because I sort of 1005 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: know what's going on enough. I think I could hang 1006 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: with at least another casual it does watch it in 1007 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: terms of talking about the characters. Yeah, and the storylines. 1008 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 2: You're saying you could go blow for blow inside the square. 1009 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 1010 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 7: I could sit on my couch for an entire Sunday 1011 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 7: afternoon watching home renovations shows. But I am never lifting 1012 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 7: a finger around to my house to improve my situation 1013 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 7: around here. It's just not happening. But I'm fascinated by 1014 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 7: watching it on television. I don't know why. It's a 1015 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 7: it's a great hangover view as well. 1016 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, do you a love it all listed fan? 1017 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 7: I think that's probably my number one. 1018 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 3: Home renovation That is awesome. 1019 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 7: It's one of the it's one of the most successful 1020 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,959 Speaker 7: Canadian television shows of all time. 1021 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, trivia for you anybody else? 1022 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've talked a lot about the 1023 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: fact that I really love all of the lore and 1024 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 2: the stories and just how deep the past goes for 1025 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: everything that's in the mafia, But ultimately I'm not in 1026 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: the mafia. Despite knowing what America is. Probably shouldn't have 1027 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: just mentioned it. 1028 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 6: I guess one thing I used to consume when I 1029 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 6: moved back to Toronto. I used to get the subway 1030 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 6: to work, and you know how you have that free 1031 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 6: Metro newspaper in the morning, So I don't know if 1032 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 6: they even still have that. But every Wednesday there used 1033 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 6: to be a writer, sports writer, and he used to 1034 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 6: write these really sort of deep articles about the CFL. 1035 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 3: And I was always like, God. 1036 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 6: The CFL, Like who gives about the CFL, especially in Toronto, 1037 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 6: you know, But he used to write these stuff. Is 1038 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 6: if it was like you know, watch bombs, like you 1039 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 6: would say you would talk about trade rooms and stuff, 1040 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 6: and I'm just like, I've never heard anyone talk about it, 1041 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 6: but I used to love reading about it for some reason. 1042 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 6: I was just like, it's like this guy could be 1043 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 6: completely making this up and no one would even know 1044 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 6: at all. I mean, if you're in Cisco actually one 1045 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 6: or some way where they don't have another professional team, 1046 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 6: it's like, okay, maybe there's some interest there. But in Toronto, 1047 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 6: like the argos are just you know, they're so they're 1048 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 6: probably behind the Toronto Rock in terms of sporting interest. 1049 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 6: But he used to get an article every week and 1050 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 6: just talk about the CFL, and just like wow, I 1051 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 6: mean when the editor gets this, does he just go, yeah, cool, 1052 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 6: great article, man. I have no idea. I have no 1053 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 6: idea what you're talking about. I have no idea if 1054 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 6: anyone cares. And I don't even know why we go 1055 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 6: ahead with this, like talk about. 1056 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 5: The Leaves, the son of a bit. 1057 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 4: You come into my country and you tell me that 1058 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 4: people can't watch, you don't watch. You shouldn't care about 1059 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 4: the Canadian Football League or the Australian Football League, whatever 1060 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 4: the hell it's called. 1061 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 5: That's a piecing. 1062 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 2: The Melbourne Doogies. 1063 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: The Melbourne Demons and Melbourne Demons. 1064 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 6: But I'm saying, I'm talking like, if it's the Leafs, 1065 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 6: at least you know some people are going to care 1066 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 6: about it. 1067 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean how many games? How many Argo games 1068 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 3: did you go to? Tests? 1069 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 5: Not many. 1070 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 3: I've been to one game. 1071 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: No one was there, No one can come on, you 1072 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: got to keep up the date on where rocket Ismale 1073 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: is gonna go. 1074 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, back in the day, were you more of 1075 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: a Rough Riders fan or a Rough Riders fan? 1076 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 3: Give me the Rough Riders man? Oh day? 1077 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah that. 1078 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: Was That was my buddy Grisha's favorite matchup because you 1079 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 1: could never lose, because he was always true for. 1080 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: The Rough Riders. 1081 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be Kem Stewart's favorite game. 1082 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: Who they played, the Rough Riders. 1083 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 7: I think I know more people in Atlanta that watch 1084 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 7: the CFL than I did. INTI Rocker? 1085 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, well the occasionally had teams in the US, didn't 1086 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 6: they Like Memphis? 1087 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 3: I think they had one, and yeah, Baltimore, Yeahveport Louisiana. 1088 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 6: Or yeah, Hell the hell did Shreveport, Louisiana get a 1089 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 6: team in the CFL. 1090 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: They didn't have it for long. 1091 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 4: It is weird, how like you said, j D, it's 1092 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 4: on television down here, I think it was. It's on 1093 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 4: the NBC Sports Network. I think people watch it. Yeah, 1094 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 4: dig into the Blue Bombers versus the Eskimos entertaining football. 1095 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: Baby was throwing that thing left and right now. The 1096 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 1: NFL is just copying the CFL. Just throw it every down. 1097 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: Why don't you try running the ball every once in 1098 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: a while. Our balls are bigger up in Canada. I 1099 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say something, Oh, you said you went to 1100 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: one CFL game. Lead how many Toronto Rock lacrosse games 1101 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: did you go to? Ashley Docking? 1102 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 6: We will I've probably been to ten Rock games. But 1103 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 6: because I got a freak ticket. 1104 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I thincause I got freak tickets. 1105 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: I never fight for them. 1106 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 1107 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: Now you know they're giving away tickets to the Rock 1108 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: and you can't even get a ticket to the Arcos. 1109 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 6: The IGOs was played at the Skydimee there with the 1110 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 6: Rugers Center there, and I was like, man, this is 1111 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 6: like there was Honestly, it felt like there was about 1112 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 6: a hundred people in the stands. 1113 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 3: It's too big. 1114 00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: I don't play there now. 1115 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 3: No, they play at the at. 1116 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 6: The mL, at the Toronto FC, isn't it, I think. 1117 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, at that area, Yeah, yeah, studium. 1118 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1119 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 6: Having said that, I of course love pinball Clements. How 1120 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 6: can you not love pinballs? An incredible man. I've got 1121 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 6: a chance of interviewing once and I think I asked 1122 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 6: him like two questions and the interview went for like 1123 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 6: forty five minutes. He was just so oh, yeah, yeah, 1124 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 6: it's great to be here. You know, he's a great, 1125 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 6: great human being. Pinball Clements. He should be Prime Minister 1126 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 6: of Canada. 1127 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: Moving on, Hey, no Duncan donuts. I am a longtime fan, 1128 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: going back to the days of the starters. There have 1129 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: been many great NBA uniforms through the years and some 1130 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: also pretty terrible ones. My question, if you could draft 1131 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: your top three favorite and your top three least favorite 1132 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: NBA uniforms of all time, what would they be? Thanks 1133 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: for getting me through this quarantine? Turn up love you guys. 1134 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: Awesome. 1135 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: That's from Jishnu in Washington, DC. 1136 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 2: Trey. 1137 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: Why don't you answer this one? You got some favorites 1138 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: and on favorites. 1139 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna this answer though, and change the rules 1140 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: a lot of times. Number one. First of all, there 1141 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: are three uniforms that I think are locked in as 1142 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 2: the greatest in NBA history. The Bulls, Red, Lakers, Gold, 1143 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 2: Celtic's green. You can have them in any order, that's mine. 1144 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: The Bulls is the best. It's crazy how almost every 1145 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: or so many Michael Jordan classic moments are on the 1146 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 2: road wearing red. That's why I was happy when they 1147 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 2: switched to wear and red at home. That was cool 1148 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 2: to see it a little bit more often. Okay, those 1149 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 2: are the top three, but my favorites I'll start at 1150 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 2: number three. The Orlando Magic nineties black pin stripes uniforms 1151 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 2: Shack Penny, you know, right when they're franchise started. I 1152 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: just think those are awesome. With the A is a Star. 1153 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 2: At number two, I love the Blazers nineties white uniforms 1154 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: with the stripes across. It's just the red and the black. 1155 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 2: They hadn't added the silver yet, and they got that 1156 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 2: little drop shadow on the team name. Beautiful. Number one 1157 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 2: favorite though the Sun's rising sun jerseys. Take your pick, purple, 1158 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 2: black or white. They're all classic, and they're purf suns. 1159 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: You flip it over, it still looks like suns Amazing. 1160 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: The worst, however, I gotta start with some trends at 1161 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 2: number three, the worst trend ever. Third worst trend ever. 1162 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 2: Black trim on classic jerseys. I hated when the Knicks 1163 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 2: added those black panels to their jerseys in the nineteen nineties. 1164 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 2: I don't like the Celtics ones that were green and 1165 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 2: they added the black on the side. If you've got 1166 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 2: a classic, why add black just because it's the nineteen nineties. 1167 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense to me. Number two worst trend any 1168 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: shiny jersey. I'm talking about the gold King's jersey, the 1169 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,479 Speaker 2: silver MAVs jersey, the Wizards when they wore gold up top, 1170 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 2: black up bottom. It just doesn't work. Even that era 1171 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: of NBA jersey where they were using the dazzle cloth, 1172 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 2: and everything kind of looked a little bit like lingerie 1173 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 2: wasn't really feeling it. I want my mesh to be mesh. 1174 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1175 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: But my number one worst jersey, it's not a trend, 1176 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 2: it's a straight up worst jersey. The Rockets pinstriped jersey. 1177 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 2: They've got everything bad about a jersey. They took a 1178 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,760 Speaker 2: classic and they messed it up. They added a stupid 1179 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: cartoon on the front, they did weird pin stripes that 1180 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: don't even connect at the top or the bottom, and 1181 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 2: then Yao Ming had to wear him for almost his 1182 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: entire career. That was just tough, tough look for y'all there. 1183 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, they had a classic look with the red 1184 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 2: and the yellow, won two championships and then switched to 1185 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: maybe the worst jersey of all time. So that one 1186 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 2: is the all time poops for me. 1187 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: The Pajama Rockets strewsy. 1188 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, brutal. 1189 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, great breakdown, next one here, Hey, no 1190 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 4: Diggity's yesterday. I was daydreaming and trying to figure out 1191 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 4: the top ten most successful NBA franchises. The top seven 1192 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 4: toreazy in no particular order. Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs, Pistons, Warriors, 1193 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 4: and Heat. The fun part of my internal debate was 1194 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 4: trying to figure out the last three. I got it 1195 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 4: down to these four ok SE Slash, Seattle, Utah, Houston 1196 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 4: and Philly. I have I have a couple questions that 1197 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 4: I would like to hear you guys debate. Since I 1198 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 4: can only pick three, which of the last four teams 1199 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 4: do I need to exclude? Or would you take out 1200 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 4: more than one and include a team I've admitted? And 1201 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 4: am I overlooking the Knicks under two championships? 1202 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 5: God? I hope not. 1203 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: However, they're the only team with multiple Lario Brians not 1204 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 4: on my list. Thanks guys, and keep up the great work. 1205 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 4: That's from Mike and Calgary Alberta Golf Stampeders. 1206 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 6: Will. Yeah, well, I'm gonna leael Us this one a 1207 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 6: little bit. I'm gonna tweak his question because the league 1208 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 6: has just changed and expanded so much, and teams have 1209 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 6: moved around, and you know, sometimes you're not quite sure 1210 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 6: which team gets credited for a championship, Like, for example, 1211 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 6: no one looks at the OKAC Thunder and says, well, 1212 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 6: the Sonics won the championship in seventy nine so that's 1213 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 6: one for the Thunder. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, 1214 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 6: the Sonics franchise ended in two thousand and eight and 1215 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 6: the Thunder started in two thousand and eight, So you know, 1216 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 6: I'm not crediting the Thunder with anything that happened prior 1217 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 6: to Okay see and the merger in seventy six. I mean, 1218 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 6: I think that that's a huge deal because you know, 1219 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 6: the NBA and the ABA merged, and I think though 1220 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 6: the most significant change in the league history was a 1221 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 6: seventy nine eighty season when the three point line was introduced. 1222 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 6: So I decided to go on the top ten most 1223 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 6: successful franchises since nineteen eighty. 1224 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: I think I. 1225 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 6: Think this is a better way of doing it because 1226 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 6: that was clearly the NBA and that was a three 1227 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 6: point line, that's when it was introduced. So here are 1228 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 6: in order, the top ten teams since nineteen eighty. The 1229 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 6: Lakers number one. Ten championships from sixteen appearances in the finals. 1230 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 6: They went back to back twice and had a three 1231 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 6: peat in there. So they are clearly the favorite. Oh, 1232 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 6: they're clearly the leader. The Bulls come in second, six 1233 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 6: for six and wins in the finals are weighted heavier 1234 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 6: than appearances to to three peats. Can't really dispute that 1235 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 6: number three the San Antonio Spurs five championships from six appearances. 1236 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 6: Really amazing that the Spurs never went back to back. 1237 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 6: I think that's one of the great sort of mysteries 1238 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 6: of the Spurs dominance over the last fifteen to twenty years, 1239 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 6: that they were never able. Now, in fact, only ever 1240 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 6: made the finals twice, and that was thirteen fourteen, or 1241 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 6: back to back, I should say when they lost the 1242 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 6: first one, there to mame heat number four. Now this 1243 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 6: is where you know the Beantown Boys might come after me, 1244 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 6: but I'm afraid this is where they finally heard their music. 1245 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 6: I'm coming up the hell now the Spurs. The Celtics 1246 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 6: have more appearances than the Spurs and Bulls with seven, 1247 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 6: but they. 1248 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 3: Only have four championships. 1249 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 6: They won one, eighty four, eighty six and oh eight 1250 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 6: and they lost eighty five, eighty seven and twenty ten. 1251 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 6: So you know, as I say, you get more points 1252 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 6: four championship wins rather than just appearances. Now it gets 1253 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 6: a little bit tricky because where do you have the 1254 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 6: Celtics under four? 1255 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Number four? Number four? 1256 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, now it gets a little bit tricky because we 1257 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 6: have three teams tied with three championships from five appearances, 1258 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 6: the Warriors, Heat and Pistons. So to break the tie, 1259 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 6: I had to go on consecutive finals appearances. Therefore, the 1260 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 6: Warriors come in at number five because they went to 1261 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 6: five straight and had a back to back in there. 1262 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 6: Number six is the Heat because they went to four 1263 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 6: straight finals and had a back to back in there. 1264 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 6: And then it's the Pistons at number seven because they 1265 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 6: went to three straight eighty eight, eighty nine, and ninety, 1266 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 6: but of course only won eighty nine and ninety and 1267 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 6: they lost two thousand. 1268 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Detroit dudes are coming. 1269 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I have to find a reason. 1270 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 6: But still, hey, listen, there's seventh on the list, and 1271 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 6: that's a pretty good performance from the Pistons. Number eight 1272 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 6: Houston Rockets. Four appearances and even split two and two, 1273 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 6: and from nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety five they 1274 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 6: went four times to the finals. That's that's a pretty 1275 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 6: good return for a team. 1276 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Are you darken them for those trash jerseys? 1277 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Sure you know that. 1278 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought that up, because as much as 1279 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 6: I love the Rockets history and the tradition, and they're 1280 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 6: they're classic jerseys when they won the championships. There. 1281 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, those ones. 1282 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 6: The pinstripes are rawful. 1283 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 3: They really are rawful, terrible. 1284 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 6: I always just think of Charles Barkley two in those 1285 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 6: It's like Barkley at the end of his career in Houston. 1286 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 6: It was kind of synonymous, I thought. But anyway, moving 1287 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 6: on number nine, the Cleveland Coveral is only one championship, 1288 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,959 Speaker 6: but war five appearances excuse me, from from nineteen eighty 1289 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 6: to twenty nineteen. Of course, they went once with Lebron 1290 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 6: in two thousand and seven, and then they made the 1291 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 6: four straight from twenty fifteen to twenty and eighteen, winning 1292 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 6: of course in two thoy and sixteen, which was good 1293 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 6: because they wouldn't have made the list if they didn't 1294 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 6: win that one championship. And number ten, it's the Philadelphia 1295 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 6: seventy six is one win in nineteen eighty three and 1296 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 6: three losses nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty two, and two thousand 1297 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 6: and one they lost. 1298 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 3: So there you go. 1299 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 6: That's the top ten franchises since nineteen eighty Shout out 1300 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 6: to the Dallas Mavericks who were one on one. 1301 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: But but of course appearance on two. 1302 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one of two. 1303 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 6: See yeah yeah, one of one. Yeah. So the Mavericks, Yeah, 1304 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 6: they just didn't make it as many times as the 1305 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 6: Sixers did. But fun question. Thanks very much for sending 1306 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 6: that in, Mike and go rough Riders or Stampeders. 1307 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: Serus me Stampede. 1308 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Let them breakdown, Okay, Next one. Boljeou no dunkers rating 1309 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: from cholet in the Grand area of France, a small 1310 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: town pro basketball club youth academy sent to the NBA. 1311 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Isn't Michael or Miquel Jellyball? I always forget. 1312 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 7: Jellyball. 1313 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 6: Well, it was always it was always Michael Patris. But 1314 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 6: I think this one is a McKay life. 1315 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Nando de Coolo, Rodrique bl blah blah, Kevin Saraphin, 1316 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, and maybe Killian Hayes in the next draft. 1317 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: There's a kid named Killian that's pretty badass. Hope he's good. 1318 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I work from home as a freelance translator and proofreader, 1319 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and last year I had the opportunity to make my 1320 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: debut in the hoops writing world. I wrote some articles 1321 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: for a book recap about last season and a magazine 1322 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: preview of this season. I also co wrote an NBA 1323 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: quiz about the league's history, both for casual and expert fans. 1324 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Among other questions, I asked the readers what was the 1325 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: name given to the infamous brawl between the Detroit Pistons 1326 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: and Indiana Pacers played in November two thousand and four. 1327 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: There were three possible answers, Malisa the Palace, the Battle 1328 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: of Detroit, or Friday Night Fight Plays note the game 1329 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: was on a Friday night. Quite proud of this one, actually, 1330 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: he says, my question, do you think there is a 1331 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: famous game and or moment that wasn't given the legendary 1332 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: name it deserved? For example, I've never been a fan 1333 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: of the block by Lebron on Igodala in the finals. 1334 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I understand this choice in relation with other iconic moments 1335 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: of Cleveland's for its history, the drive, the fumble, the decision, 1336 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: But in my opinion, the Chase down would have been 1337 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: way cooler. Cheers, Lamis. That's from Elvis. He is in 1338 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: the building, he's in this email, he's in a bestep in, 1339 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: so yeah he has. He's basically throwing out the idea 1340 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: that should it be called the Chase Down instead of 1341 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: the Block, and I was curious to see what was 1342 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the first thing that popped up in Google when you 1343 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: typed in the chase down, and there are three you 1344 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: two videos that popped up for me. One was Lebron 1345 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: James called Lebron James The Chase Down from the NBA. 1346 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: It's posted in two thousand and nine. It's just like 1347 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: highlights of Lebron's best chased down blocks. The other one 1348 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: was from Maximilian seven to one to one, same thing, 1349 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 1: highlights of Lebron James Chase down blocks, posted a little 1350 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 1: bit later. And then there was another one called like 1351 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: the Chase Down in the Charge Lebron's back to back 1352 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: smart plays and it's from like a game in October. 1353 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: So there's also a cast podcast called the Chase Down. 1354 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: I think he's got a bit of a point that 1355 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: is it a little bit better as the chase down 1356 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: instead of the block. Is the block to basic even 1357 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 1: though it fits like sort of that again like that 1358 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland iconic sort of moments or infamous moments history. I 1359 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm torn on this one. Like the block 1360 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: obviously works. The chase down, especially being a Lebron's specialty, 1361 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: is right there. Too, and that's there's no doubt that's 1362 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: what it was. Do you guys have an opinion on 1363 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: in this one in particular? 1364 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 3: I think it's more than the block. 1365 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 6: I get what he's saying, and there is a case 1366 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 6: to be made there, but it's more emphatic because it's 1367 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 6: that big slap onto the backboard, you know, that's what 1368 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 6: you remember more. Lebron has had some bigger chase downs 1369 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 6: where he comes from further away and sort of like 1370 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 6: swats it into the stands. But the fact that this 1371 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 6: kind of gets pinned against the board, you know, for me, 1372 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 6: makes it more that there should be known more for 1373 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 6: the block because he definitely does hunt him down, but 1374 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 6: not he doesn't come. He doesn't come like from like 1375 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 6: we've seen him on other ones where he just gets 1376 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 6: those legs pumping. He more just times this one to 1377 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 6: perfection rather than having to chase him down to get 1378 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 6: him because he's running out of time, if you know 1379 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 6: what I mean. 1380 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 4: I like the chase down better and I think it's 1381 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 4: just it's. 1382 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 5: Blainswead it was a little bit better. 1383 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's better. It's it's a little 1384 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 4: bit more specific. Yeah, to the point it was I 1385 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 4: get immediately get it in my brain that it's the 1386 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 4: chase down rather than the block. But is Tayshaun Prince 1387 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 4: doing it to Reggie Miller? Is that is that stealing ads? 1388 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 4: That borrowing it from that? Because that one, that one 1389 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 4: definitely more of a chase down. 1390 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might be right, maybe a reason that's why 1391 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't called that. I there's a Wikipedia page for 1392 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Lebron's block in this final Game seven on igodolo, like 1393 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a detailed, very long Wikipedia page. I actually recommend you 1394 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: go check it out. I was like, oh, yeah, I'd forgotten. 1395 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 1: You know when Lebron said that about he kept. Lebron 1396 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: was talked about after the games like j R. Smith, 1397 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: don't foul him, don't foul him, don't foul them. Like 1398 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: he's like, I've got it. I'm gonna time this perfectly. 1399 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,919 Speaker 1: And then there's like a play by play of Breen 1400 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: on the call, you know, Iganolada curry back to igodol 1401 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: up for the layup oh block by James, Like this 1402 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: thing is lengthy, so it definitely stuck and it is 1403 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: no doubt referred to as the block. But Trey, do 1404 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: you like the chase down a bit? Better, like like tasaid, 1405 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I'm fifty to fifty on it. 1406 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Why not call it the chase down block? 1407 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 2: That describes everything Lee's trying to split it up in 1408 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 2: between when he's running on the court versus when he 1409 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: actually blocks it. Both parts are essential. I mean, Lebron 1410 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 2: comes from I'm far away away in a very fast 1411 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 2: amount of time, I would. I mean, there are other 1412 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 2: famous chase down blocks in history, but as time goes on, 1413 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna forget about Tayshawn Prince's and we're gonna remember 1414 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Lebron's in the finals. So yeah, call it the chase down, 1415 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 2: call it the block. Maybe it deserves two names. 1416 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Are there any other things that you think deserve 1417 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 1: like an upgrade on what they're called, or don't like 1418 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: what they're called. 1419 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 2: How about we call the flu game the disease vector game. 1420 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 2: It's really interesting to be watching that now while we're 1421 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 2: all quarantined as a virus goes around the world and 1422 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 2: everybody was celebrating Michael Jordan for going out there sick. 1423 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if. 1424 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 2: Anybody on the Jazz ever came down with an illness, 1425 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, after after playing against the MJ in the finals. 1426 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 5: They definitely did. 1427 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 4: I played against MJ sickness. I like the uh the 1428 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 4: when Tray McGrady scores thirteen points and thirty five seconds, 1429 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 4: I always have to think about. 1430 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,839 Speaker 5: How many do you score? How many seconds? 1431 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 4: I think we just got to shorten that up. So 1432 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 4: I just want to call it the Unlucky thirteen. We 1433 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 4: lose the second, We definitely lose the amount of seconds 1434 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 4: that he did it in, but we've got to shorten 1435 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 4: it up. People can't remember that many words these days. 1436 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 4: It's just too many words. 1437 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: So Unlucky thirteen coming at it from the spur side 1438 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: of things, Yeah right right, I like that. I don't 1439 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: mind that. It's very memorable. Lee any other. 1440 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:26,600 Speaker 6: Ones, No, I mean the stepover from Alan Iverson is uh? 1441 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess we call that the step over. 1442 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Don't Oh yeah? Yeah? 1443 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, great thinking. Yeah right. 1444 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: It definitely feels like most nicknames are just exactly what happened, right, 1445 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's shot against Craig Elow, that's the shot. Shot 1446 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 2: Lebron blocked a shot. That's the block. Alan Iverson stepped over, guy, 1447 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 2: that's the step over. We just need to elevate everything, 1448 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 2: so we. 1449 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Don't have and maybe it would have been if Lebron 1450 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: had thrown that one down on Draymond Green right at 1451 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: the end of game seven. We don't have just the dunk, right, 1452 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: Is that true? Get that label? No, No, I can't 1453 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: think of it, although I think Lebron's would be called 1454 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: that if he had, you know, successfully pulled off that 1455 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: posterization on dreamon. 1456 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,879 Speaker 3: Well the death, the death. 1457 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the death. Oh I guess, uh, that's what the 1458 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: Vince Carter's on, Yeah, Frederick Weiss is called. Oh yeah, yeah, 1459 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: Fredrick Weiss, Yeah yeah. 1460 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, next one, Hey, dunk Boize. 1461 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 4: I was up late last night watching basketball clips on YouTube, 1462 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 4: trying to stay sane during this difficult time, when I 1463 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 4: randomly came across an incredible channel simply titled slam Ball 1464 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,560 Speaker 4: has to be Expected. This channel features many highlights and 1465 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 4: all of the full games from the broadcast run of 1466 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 4: the seminal basketball spinoff slam Ball. I instantly began watching 1467 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 4: season one when an announcer mentioned that the coach of 1468 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 4: the Rumble had stopped his players from playing in an 1469 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 4: important game because of their academic issues. This coach's name, 1470 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 4: you may ask coach Carter, Oh, the real coach Carter Ken. 1471 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 4: Carter was a slam ball coach. I found out as 1472 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 4: I went along that he was considered the task master 1473 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 4: of coaches in slam ball, and no spoilers, but he 1474 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 4: was ultimately a very successful slam ball coach. Did any 1475 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,839 Speaker 4: of you ever watch slamball? Its style of play weirdly 1476 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 4: fits better now than it did in two thousand and two. Wow, 1477 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 4: that's when it was around A long time ago. Andrew 1478 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 4: Mowbray with that email, Thank you, Andrew. 1479 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 1: I loved slamball legit the first time it came around. 1480 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 1: And for those of you that have no idea what 1481 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 1: we're talking about, because maybe you're a little younger, I mean, 1482 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: it was a form of basketball played with four like 1483 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 1: giant trampolines set up around each net, and they were 1484 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: like hockey boards like you're at a Toronto rock lacrosse 1485 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: around the court edge. And it was a contact sport. 1486 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,839 Speaker 1: It was basketball, but like you know, encouraged rough physical 1487 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: play like football or ice hockey or whatever. I mean, 1488 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of collisions and these guys were 1489 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: they were wearing helmets, weren't they. Yeah, they were right yeah, yeah, yeah, 1490 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 1: And you know, so I loved it because here's what 1491 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 1: it was. In all honesty, it was like a real 1492 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: life version of NBA Jam, or as close as you 1493 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: can sort of get too, making NBA Jam for humans 1494 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 1: to play. And yeah, I remember watching those first couple 1495 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 1: of seasons, like he said, two two thousand and three, 1496 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I think they were on Spike TV if I recall, 1497 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: and you only had a couple of teams. But I 1498 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: was a fan and it was fun as hell at 1499 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,639 Speaker 1: the time, and I think it made like a little 1500 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: bit of a weird comeback later in the two thousands 1501 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: or you know, I didn't watch any of that. I 1502 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: remember Reggie THEUS was involved in it though early too. 1503 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: He was like a color commentator. Maybe he was the 1504 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 1: one dropping that Coach Carter fact on you. I'm not sure, 1505 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I was a big fan. Probably was I 1506 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: more of a Rumble fan or a Diablos fan. I 1507 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 1: think I was a Rumble fan now I think about it. 1508 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: So shout out to Coach Carter taking that team to 1509 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:55,640 Speaker 1: that championship. 1510 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 6: I remember thinking it was going to take off because 1511 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 6: it had that connection to h NBA Jam, you know, 1512 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 6: and people are like, oh, man, that's what I want 1513 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 6: to do, go out there and play. But it never 1514 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 6: really did, which is odd. It sort of it did come, 1515 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 6: and I remember for about a year or so there 1516 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 6: people were talking about it. 1517 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 3: And then it just kind of just went away. 1518 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 6: People just like, Okay, it wasn't actually as exciting as 1519 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 6: we thought it was going to be. And yeah, I 1520 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 6: never got into it as much as you did there. 1521 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 6: But I remember like watching a few times and just 1522 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 6: thinking like, that looks so much fun to go out 1523 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,600 Speaker 6: there and play you bad, Yeah. 1524 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: Because they usually amazing, like like face offs, do you 1525 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: remember those, like when fowls were cold and stuff like that. 1526 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: They like legit set up, you got one blocker, you 1527 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 1: got the one dunk a two guy and they jump 1528 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: off their trampalloons and like just destroy each other in 1529 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: the air and the one guy's trying to dunk on guy. 1530 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it was so much fun. I 1531 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: mean it was crazy. Yeah that these guys like didn't 1532 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: break their legs every game, but it's fun to watch. 1533 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1534 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 2: I just imagine Pinball Clemons out there playing slambo. The 1535 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: guy would be dominant. I like to imagine Harder comes 1536 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 2: into his first slam ball practice. He's like, guys, this 1537 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 2: worked for me in the past. Put away the balls. 1538 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 2: We're just bouncing today. We got to learn our sweet spots. 1539 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: There's a you know that's a skill though, jumping off 1540 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: a trampoline, right, Oh, for sure, Right, Oh my god, 1541 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 1: it's watch the highlights again. If you have no idea 1542 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 1: what we're talking about typing slamball into YouTube, you'll be like, 1543 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: how was this the thing? 1544 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Though? 1545 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Those jerseys would be incredible to rock at Coachella thirty like, oh, 1546 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 1: look that guy's got a bouncer's jersey on a slasher's 1547 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: jersey or something like that. 1548 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. The jerseys appear to be way more football than 1549 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 2: basketball jerseys, right, which I don't know because it definitely 1550 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 2: felt like it was pitched as basketball more so than football. 1551 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 2: Like one of the owners of the seventy six ers, 1552 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,440 Speaker 2: I feel like, was involved at the league. 1553 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: From the beginning. Yeah, Pat Crochy, Yeah. 1554 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. But yeah, I guess they they're 1555 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 2: trying to hit both markets there. They're saying, hey, if 1556 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 2: you like basketball and football, you'll love slam ball for 1557 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 2: two years. Watch. 1558 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 4: No, I just consumed content around it. I just listened 1559 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 4: to podcasts. 1560 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 5: I watched some. 1561 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 4: I definitely watched some. I never I didn't follow the 1562 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 4: league or anything like were there finals since I guess 1563 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 4: there had to be semi finals. 1564 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't a lot of teams. I mean, 1565 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 1: it was like the cfl out there in the slam 1566 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: Ball there was like six teams I think to start with. 1567 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 1: Maybe they added them, maybe they added a team or 1568 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: two in the second year. I don't know if they 1569 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: ever found their way to Shreveport. You know what we 1570 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: should do if there's no NBA season, we should go 1571 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 1: back and start a slam ball podcast where we watched 1572 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 1: all these games and like just pretend it's happening in 1573 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:40,800 Speaker 1: real time. 1574 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,839 Speaker 2: That's great. We got coach Carter to talk about. Eventually, 1575 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Xavier McDaniel became a coach. There's another NBA tie. John 1576 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Stark's got a team and oh my goodness, you're not 1577 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,640 Speaker 2: gonna believe this. Two thousand and eight rocket Ishmael was 1578 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 2: a coach of the Bounces. Watch did you wait about that? 1579 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 3: The paper League? Yeah, that was a big scoop. 1580 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 6: I remember, It's all I bet, really, you know, And 1581 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 6: unfortunately now and I never heard of him all the leaks. 1582 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 3: I know I can. 1583 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Let's call it there. But your homework everyone listening is 1584 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: let us know what we should call our future slam 1585 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,600 Speaker 1: ball podcast, Like, what would be a good name for 1586 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 1: a slam ball podcast? Anything come to mine right now 1587 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:21,799 Speaker 1: for anyone. 1588 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 3: Out there, only dunks. 1589 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, maybe that works. Maybe that works, So let 1590 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: us know hashtag no dunks, Email us no dunks at 1591 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com. Keep those questions coming. All right, 1592 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: That's it for us here with the beach step in. 1593 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Highly recommend you check out yesterday's two podcasts. We did 1594 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 1: a who Wants Some Trivia? I tested Trey Kirby's knowledge 1595 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: of the ninety seven ninety eight NBA season, in particular 1596 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: MJ and the Bulls. So go check that out, you guys. 1597 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 1: Also did a fantastic one on one interview with NBA 1598 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 1: photographer Nathaniel Butler. Great job, guys, It's a super entertaining 1599 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: podcast to hear talk about covering MJ covering the Bulls. 1600 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Knick's rivalry house sports photography has changed, you know, since 1601 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: back in the eighties when he started as guys of 1602 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 1: an NBA vet. So go check that out as well. 1603 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that one. Coming up on Thursday, 1604 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 1: we got the penultimate episode of our No Buffs Survivor 1605 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: recap podcast. We got two hour episode tonight. JD, who 1606 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 1: cleared your schedule? 1607 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 7: Oh it is wide open tonight. 1608 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: I mean we gotta have we gotta have somebody coming 1609 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 1: back from edge tonight. You gotta think we're probably voting 1610 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: out at least two people, maybe even three. Two hours 1611 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,839 Speaker 1: of Survivor tonight on a Wednesday, and we'll be recapping 1612 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 1: it on No Buffs tomorrow and Thursday, and then on Friday, 1613 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: we're watching and reviewing the nineties basketball movie Above the 1614 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: Rim for Film Session. That's your homework a watch Above 1615 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 1: the Rim. It's an excellent nineties basketball movie. So we'll 1616 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: break it all down on Friday's podcast. All right, Clipper Bros, you. 1617 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 8: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1618 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 8: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us. And remember 1619 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,040 Speaker 8: listen to these names. Warren Moon, Ricky Williams, Joe Thiasman, 1620 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 8: Doug Flutie and Dwayne Johnson all played in the Canadian 1621 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 8: Football League. 1622 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 3: Dwayne Johnson No. 1623 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 4: Dwayne Dwayne Johnson, the Rocky Maya Villa, the Dwayne Johnson 1624 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 4: that guy. 1625 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 1: Who did he play for? 1626 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Who did he play for? 1627 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 5: Think he played for the Stamps? Who did you play for? 1628 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 5: You want to do? Who he played for? 1629 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Our next podcast next week on our CFL podcast, Hey listen. 1630 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 6: If anyone's got video footage of Dwayne the Rock Johnson 1631 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 6: playing for the CFL, I do want to watch that. 1632 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh and Don Mowen also played. 1633 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Embrace the Day people. 1634 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 2: You could stay. 1635 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 7: Every day happy. 1636 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,759 Speaker 1: It's been so long that you have the one. 1637 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 3: I've waiting for. 1638 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 8: Its happened already. 1639 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 5: It's going to be good me