1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back an hour number two Clay 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show, or rolling through the Friday edition 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: of the program. Always want to encourage you. I mean, 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: it has been an unbelievably wild week, even by news 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: standards of wild weeks, which we have had a lot 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: of over the past eighteen months or so past several years. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: To be frank, go download the podcast, make sure you 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: don't miss anything. 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We 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: are joined now, I believe by Jack Carr, former Navy 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Seal st sniper and task unit commander who has served 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Jack, we appreciate you joining 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: us and all your service, and I know this has 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: been a tough week for many people, both in uniform 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: and out of uniform. I want to start with this 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: question for you. When you saw the report that we 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: had turned over the names of Americans and American allies 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan to the Taliban, your reaction was what, well, 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: it was another a long list of errors that is 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: going to impact those on the front lines and not 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: so much those from temperature controlled offices in the Pentagon 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: or in and around Washington, DC. We just handed over 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: the names of US citizens, maybe some people that helped 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: us over the last twenty years, to the enemy that 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: we've been engaged with on the battlefield for those twenty years. 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: And then we're asking them permission, if it's okay to 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: get those people out. They get to decide whether they 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: can get let these people through to an airport as 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: we try to evacuate them in a way that is 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: obviously a disaster. And once again it's those frontline E ones, 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: E two's six's, O ones, O twos, those junior level 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: officers and enlisted that are out there in the meat 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: grind are making the best of a chaotic, violent, dynamic, 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: fluid situation, just like they have for the last twenty years. 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: So I'd like to say that I was surprised by that, 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: but unfortunately, looking at the last twenty years as my guide, 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: it is not that shocking. It's just heartbreaking, devastating, unfortunate. Jack, 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: It's Buck. I want to know what you think we 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: the United States government military could do to try to 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: enhance the security situation on the ground, because all we've 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: really heard from the Biden administration is essentially we're reliant 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: on the Taliban and it's in their interest. It's in 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: the Taliband's interest to prevent this from happening again. It's 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: already happened once. Obviously, everyone hearing that is thinking themselves, well, 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: that's a horrible situation to be in. That's not something 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: that makes us feel good. Do you see a way 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: to at least make that situation a little bit less 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: high risk for the Americans and SIV holders and others 59 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: who are either trying to or have gotten into Kabbal 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: International Airport. Yes, we saw that same sentiment echoed by 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the sent Coom commander yesterday talking about it being in 62 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: the Taliban's best interest to let these people through, to 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: put people through security screenings. But if you've seen any 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: of these pictures like we all have coming in, I 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: mean you're seeing these people crowding the gates, You're seeing 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: them standing in suits, You're seeing the babies handed the 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: walls to some marines that are manning those uh manning 68 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: those barriers. It's just chaos down there. And even when 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: we had secure a very robust security measures in place, 70 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of our bases and Afghanistan and in Iraq, 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: you would see these cars come in. You would see 72 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: people come in, and that's a tough thing to do, 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: even for our soldiers to check out who has an 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: s vest on? Who that truck truck coming in? It 75 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: looks like that suspension is it's a little heavy. Um 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: do I shoot? Do I not? What's going? I mean, 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: it's tough for us who have who have protocols in place, 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: who have rose in place, who are trained up, and 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: now we're relying on the Taliban, our enemy, to not 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: let other terrorist groups, warlords, somebody looking to take a 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: shot to blow something up, to say be able to 82 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: get a little U street cred by saying, hey, we 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: we kick the Americans out of Afghanistan, just like they 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: did with the Soviets and with a British way before that. 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: So it's, uh, there are definitely things we can do. 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look at how much we have invested in 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: our military since the end of World War Two up 88 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: to today, and then look at what we're doing. Look 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: at who we are relying on. Once again, it's that rifleman. 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: It's that marine down there, holding that M four that 91 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: is standing the guard, standing the watch, holding the line. 92 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Once again, with all those assets that American military has 93 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: at its disposal, not in country air power out of there, 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: our intelligence apparatus dismantled, allowing the enemy to get right 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: up close, no standoff between that frontline soldier and the 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: person who might be wearing that s vest in a 97 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: crazy dynamic situation. So there are definitely things that could 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: be done, both tactically and strategically, But unfortunately, it looks 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: like we are just focused on this August thirty first 100 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: date and trying to scramble out of there as fast 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: as we possibly can. It's a dark day for America, 102 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, Jack, question for you, we 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: talked yesterday, and it seems like there's a clarity here 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: that we are going to leave some Americans behind in Afghanistan. 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: What do you think the chances are that we end 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: up with some form of hostage like situation after our 107 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: troops are already off the ground and out of the country, 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: and we may have to send people back in as 109 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: you assess the situation on the ground right now. Yeah, 110 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: that's a good question, and it's maybe it does fall 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: back to whose best entrance is it to have the 112 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: United States either in or out of that country. So 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: with the Taliban in charge running the country, different warring 114 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: factions in the mix, their terrorist organizations in the mix, there, 115 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: who is to benefit from holding ont of these Americans 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: and a lot not eventually allowing them safe passage out 117 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: of the country, Or how can they spin this into 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: an advantageous public relations campaign, of which they have proven 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: themselves to be much better at than our public affairs 120 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: officers in the military. So it's certainly a high probability 121 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: that they could be used as bargaining chips for something 122 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: else that the Taliban or one of these warring factions 123 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: or terrorist group once or it's also possible that they 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: just lead the country via other means later. So it's 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: but it's certainly a possibility that they could be taken 126 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: hostage and be used as bargaining ships going forward. The 127 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: point being they should never be in that position to 128 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: begin with. Once they shouldn't have been. As everything started 129 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: to deteriorate, we should have hit these noncombatant evacuation plans 130 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and gone in, figured out where everybody was, brought them 131 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: to a strategically advantageous point, not giving that those points 132 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: up and take in consolidating our forces at will. But 133 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: once we're in that position, now it's time to not 134 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: leave these Americans behind. That's the last thing we can 135 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: do to salvage some vestige of our dignities to go out, 136 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: crush the enemy, get all our citizens out, and you 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: know what, then reevaluate and hold people accountable, both in 138 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: the military and bureaucrats, elected officials who this has been 139 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: like a slow motion train, right. I want to I 140 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: want to jump in on that Jack a couple weeks. 141 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Sorry Jack about the accountability question, though, I think this 142 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: is this is critical. You know, we've had friends like 143 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: a former Army ranger Tenth Mountain Champarnell on to talk 144 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: about the boots versus the suits paradigm here, that this 145 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: wasn't about what was done tactically on the ground during 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: the war we're talking about now. This was about decisions 147 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: from the top on down, and they've been catastrophic in 148 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: recent weeks, recent months, we've all seen that forever. We're 149 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: speaking of Jack Carr, former Navy seal and author of 150 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the Terminal List series, which you should all check out, 151 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: an excellent, excellent series of novels. The Devil's Hand is 152 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: his latest Jack. Here is General Millie. I think this 153 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: was This was in June during a hearing on Capitol 154 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Hill the issue of Bagram Air Base, which many people 155 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: who watched this closely say was among the most inexcusably 156 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: stupid decisions made to just sort of say, yeah, we're 157 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: gonna give up Bagram. Here's what General Millie, chairman of 158 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in So, I'm a 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: couple of quick comments here on Barum. Barum is not 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: necessary tactically, are operationally for what we're gonna try to 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: do here with Afghanistan, consolidate on Kabul with in support 162 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: of their government. Not necessary. Jack consolidate on Kabul. We 163 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: we did that, and now we see what happened. Yeah, 164 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: there's a difference between confidence and competence. And we've seen 165 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: these generals get up for the last twenty years in 166 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: front of Congress with their uniforms on the stars on 167 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: their shoulder, boards, with the medals on their chests, and 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: being very confident about it. We just need so many 169 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: more troops, so many more resources, so much more funding, 170 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. We're about to hit our goals. 171 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: That sounds very confident, but competence is lacking. And as 172 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about assets and liabilities, whether that's 173 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: in the military, as intelligence circles, that's in business, or 174 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: with your family. Who's an asset and who is a liability? 175 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: And it seems like the senior level military leaders and 176 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: our elected officials of bureaucrats are falling into this liability 177 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: category and for whatever reason, but we've had twenty years 178 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: to look back on to evaluate their performance, and they 179 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: continue to be promoted up the chain of command and 180 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: then work after they get out with full pensions on 181 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: the boards of these companies that are attached very directly 182 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: to the defense industry. And we're going to see that 183 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: again in this case. But he sounded very confident in that. 184 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: But was that a competent decision. We're gonna go back 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: and look at it, of course, but it doesn't seem 186 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: like giving up that base made sense. And for those 187 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: who have been downrange in combat, you always want to 188 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: improve your fighting position, and you can do that strategically, 189 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: you can do that tactically, and it seems like we 190 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: did not do that in this point. In fact, we 191 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: did the exact opposite of improving our fighting position. We 192 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: made it weaker at a time when we did not 193 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: have all our citizens accounted for or out of the country. 194 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: So it seems like we did backwards and we almost 195 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: did this in a way we couldn't have done it 196 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: worse time we could actively trying to do it the 197 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: worst way we possibly could. Jack, last question for you, 198 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and we appreciate your time. Jack Carr, former Navy seal. 199 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: He's done incredible work. Encouraged to check out his books 200 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: as well. Reports now that maybe another terror attack is imminent. 201 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: That's basically what has been told to Joe Biden. We 202 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: heard that right before this attack that killed it appears 203 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: over two hundred people, including thirteen American soldiers. How can 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: we stop, if at all, another terror attack from happening 205 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: before we get our troops out of that country? Right, 206 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: So the enemy now has seen a successful attack, Yeah, 207 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: they can try to do the same thing again. We 208 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: usually usually what they'll do is more fit, a tiny 209 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: bit adapt which we have proven. They prove a lot 210 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: better being adaptive than we are. They do it a 211 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,359 Speaker 1: little quicker than us because they're not a huge vierocracy 212 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: like we are. If they're operating in small cells, they 213 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: can make those adjustments very quickly. So I would not 214 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: be surprised if we saw something else because as we 215 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: know over there, these warlords, terrorist organizations, they're going to 216 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: want to be able to say that, hey, we were 217 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: the ones that got those final shots off we kick 218 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: the Americans out of Afghanistan. So I see that as 219 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: something that is a probability, just because of that culture 220 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: over there, who we're dealing with and what we've given 221 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: them to work with, which is an awful lot. So 222 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: obviously more standoff between our marines, between our soldiers, sailors 223 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Zermond and those crowds is of vital importance right now. 224 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Not allowing those suicide bombers to get closer. But that's 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: just basic. You don't need to be a student of 226 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: military history or a military tactician to figure this stuff out. 227 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: All you need is a little bit of common sense, 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: and that common sense is severely lacking at our senior 229 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: level leaders at levels. And then one more thing I 230 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: wanted to say point out is that the president's daily 231 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: brief is something that obviously want to I was highly 232 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: classified documents in Washington in the world. After this, we 233 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: are going to need to see what was in those 234 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: briefs leading up to this disaster. We have hink Obama 235 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: declassified different presidents daily briefs from the kind of administration, 236 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: from Nixon, from Ford administration. We had one page in 237 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: August of two thousand and one that was declassified by 238 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: the Bush administration. We need to see these president's daily 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: briefs leading up to this event, and we need to 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: hold people accountable. Former Navy Seal Jack Carr go checkout 241 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: official jackcarn dot com to get some of his excellent novels, 242 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: which I believe are in progress we made into some 243 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: fantastic series on TV or movie. Jack, thank you so 244 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: much for being with us. We appreciate it, Thanks for 245 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: having me, and thanks for all you do. Buck. If 246 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: we've learned anything since twenty twenty, it's there's nothing quite 247 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: as important as a powerful immune system. And over twenty 248 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: years ago, doctor Dennis Black of Texas invented Texas Superfood 249 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and it is the original superfood. He has been making 250 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: sure that we get fifty five vine ripe and fruits, vegetables, 251 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: probiotic digestive enzymes so you can build your body's defense 252 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: from the inside out. 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The left uses its power. 270 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: The right sits around and says, I don't know, we 271 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want, you know, government to do things. So who 272 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: needs to protect individual rights? Let's just let the left 273 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: keep doing what it wants. That happens in a lot 274 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: of places. It's not happening as much in some stalwarts 275 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: of defending individual freedom. Despite the craziness of the lockdowns, 276 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Places like Florida and Texas are making good moves here, 277 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: doing smart things about COVID, and yet they're up against 278 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats in those states. There are the almost entirely 279 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, a handful of very red states with pretty 280 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: small populations. But you've got Texas in Florida where they've 281 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: got to work with the what is possible not just 282 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: in the legislature but also with activist judges. Play just 283 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: sent this to me and we are diving into together 284 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: in the break because we're always analyzing in real time. 285 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: This is the Wall Street Journal. Florida's Schools COVID nineteen 286 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: mask mandates upheld by a judge. Here's a judge in 287 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 1: Florida who says that school districts can impose mask mandates 288 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: and Governor Ron de Santists overstepped his authority when he 289 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: banned mask mandates. The judge sided with parents of school 290 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: children who challenged a July executive order by Desantists and 291 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a subsequent state rule that forbids school districts from implementing 292 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: mask requirements that don't allow parents to opt out. Clay Apparently, 293 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you can mandate masks, but you cannot mandate freedom from 294 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: masks as a function of government authority in the state 295 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: of Florida. This is activist judge bullcrap. Yeah, and it's 296 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: going to be appealed, I'm sure. But like this ruling 297 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: just came down in the last half hour out of 298 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: a Tallahassee court. And the way that I would think 299 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: about this is, let's start here and we're going to 300 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: talk with Alex Barnson in the third hour. But there 301 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: remains not a single sintilla or shred of evidence that 302 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: masks on children makes them safer. For everybody out there 303 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: who wants to listen to the experts or follow the science, 304 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: the science so far has been clear. Many European countries 305 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: not requiring masks. The only large study in Georgia of 306 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: ninety thousand pupils found that there was no difference in 307 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: terms of safety for masked or non masked children. I 308 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: think all of that is incredibly significant. Here, also significant, Buck, 309 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: what the governor of Florida is doing is not mandating 310 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: that no mask can be worn. He's merely saying parents 311 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: should have the choice to decide whether or not their 312 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: kids wear masks. This is I think a flagrantly wrong 313 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: decision by this Florida judge. What you got? 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Back in 335 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show as we roll through the 336 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Friday edition of the program, want to let you know 337 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: by the way, Alex Berenson, who has become one of 338 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: the only truthtellers in the media, covering COVID madness will 339 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: join us in the third hour, and Buck and Eye 340 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: are just talking about making him a regular third hour 341 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: Friday guest because he's been so prescient, He's been so 342 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: great at for telling where we are headed, just based 343 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: on looking at the data and sharing those facts with you, 344 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: and he is continuing to do a fantastic job of that. 345 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: We talked as we finished off the last segment about 346 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: the State of Florida case surrounding Ron De Santis and 347 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: whether or not he has the executive authority as governor 348 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: to allow parents to make choices inside of schools as 349 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: opposed to individual school districts enforcing a mask mandate. That 350 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: is a legal case that we will continue to follow 351 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: as it moves its way through Florida courts and potentially beyond. 352 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, there was a big decision that 353 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: came down last night from the Supreme Court involving Joe 354 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Biden's attempt to put in place an eviction moratorium by 355 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: an executive order as opposed to via congressional authority, and 356 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. The Supreme Court finally slapped that down pretty 357 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: aggressively six to three, said it was outside the scope 358 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: of the president's authority, adding yet another defeat to an 359 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: incredibly weak first eight months in office for Joe Biden. 360 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: The reason why this had to go all the way 361 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: back to the Supreme Court was because Brett Kavanaugh didn't 362 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: strike down this decision beforehand, and Biden himself Buck even said, Hey, 363 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: I think this is unconstitutional, but I'm going to sign 364 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: it anyway. And thankfully the Supreme Court has stepped in 365 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: now and struck this down by a six to three margin. 366 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Can we just step in and focus on for one second? 367 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: And Clay very well laid out, and so I feel 368 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: like we know the issues at play here and the 369 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: structure of what exactly happened. Notice that the Biden the 370 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Democrat progressive impulse is even if it's unconstitutional, let's just 371 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: do it, man, Let's just see what we can get 372 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: away with. Let's see if maybe activist judges will bail 373 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: us out. Let's see if we can do this for 374 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: as long as you want to. Remember, there's always a 375 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: process involved, so you can actually get your way often 376 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: for a period of time. Because conservative constitutionalist judges tend 377 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: to be less quick to pull a universal injunction, less 378 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: quick to say, oh, I'm one federal judge, and I'm 379 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: going to override all federal policy right on the left 380 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: because their activists sitting in judges robes on the bench, 381 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: they'll do these kinds of things and nothing twice about it. 382 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: This is what we're up against now when it comes 383 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: to all aspects of COVID. They will do the things 384 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: they want to do, even when they don't have the 385 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: actual authority, but they will use the power in that way. 386 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: And unless we have the willingness to use power to 387 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: defend individual rights where possible taxes Florida, unless we actually 388 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: do that, we are going to get steamrolled on all 389 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: COVID restrictions and mitigations. And I mean, I get people 390 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: writing in to me. I'm sure you've seen the same thing, 391 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Clay in your inbox. I'm not some big, FatCat landlord. 392 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm not lighting my cigars with either one hundred dollar bills. 393 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: My retirement is the one property or the two modest 394 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: properties I own that I get some income from. And 395 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: I've been paying mortgages and and utilities for eighteen months now, 396 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: and they're saying, what the heck is going on? Oh, 397 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: and of course the government had like a fifty billion 398 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: dollars whatever it is. You know, I forget the exact numbers. 399 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: They don't quote me on that, but it's tens of 400 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. I think that for for the landlord's clay, 401 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: because they realize they're just stealing money from them. I 402 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: think they've spent less than five percent of it so far. 403 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: The government's not even good at giving people back the 404 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: money that it stole from them to redistribute. It's so 405 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: frustrating as a small business owner, as like you buck 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: some of the money that I made as rolled into 407 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: real estate. Because this is probably psychological, but when you 408 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: own an internet business, there's some part of you, at 409 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: least me psychologically, that wanted to have hard, tangible, physical assets. 410 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: And so I am a part owner of a variety 411 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: of different buildings all over a variety of different states. 412 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not sitting around with a billion dollars or 413 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in real estate assets. I'm like 414 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: you and like a lot of people out there, that 415 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: when you're choosing where power is going to lie to 416 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: allow people to not pay rent while we still have 417 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: the obligation to pay the mortgage, which is being paid based. 418 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: It's just a fundament and this is a big issue 419 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: with the Democratic Party in general right now. Every single 420 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: year for the last decade plus, for sure, they have 421 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: become less friendly to the idea of capitalism and less 422 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: understanding of how business works. And thankfully we at least 423 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: have the Supreme Court finally, although I think Kavanaugh blew 424 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: it in not striking this down back in the summer, 425 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: which would have prevented this from happening. But we got 426 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: a president who acknowledges that he's doing something unconstitutional, does 427 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: it anyway, And unless we had the Supreme Court three 428 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: weeks later to step in and slap back down, we 429 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: basically don't have a constitution. Democrats like this. This is 430 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: actually a replay of the Obama playbook. Remember I've got 431 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: a pen on a phone. Why did he talk about 432 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: his pen on his phone? Because he wanted to go 433 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: around the United States Congress, the legislative branch. Once the 434 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Thank You Tea Party massive wave came in 435 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: and he wasn't going to be able to get what 436 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: he wanted anymore through the legislature, so he started these 437 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: different executive orders. I mean, it was the Obama administration 438 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: that tried to tell the Senate when it was actually 439 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: in session. I mean, you look at some of the overreach, 440 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: some of the clear destruction of the separation of powers 441 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: because of the authoritarian impulse of Democrats that was on 442 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: display with Obama. You see it again with Biden. Here's 443 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the thing. Democrats like it even when they know it's wrong, 444 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: even when they know it's a constitutional violation. They get 445 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: joy out of the fact that it's Haha, our team 446 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: is winning. We're going to do it anyway, so they 447 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: won't pay a political price. Now, the courts have struck 448 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: the down. By the way, the court also struck down 449 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: earlier this week, the remain well, they struck down the 450 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: request for a stay of the lower court decision, Right 451 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: am I doing okay? Here? Procedurally it gets confusing, right Yeah. 452 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: So they struck down the lower courts demand, or rather 453 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: they struck down the demand for a stay from a 454 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: lower court basically saying that remained in Mexico policy for 455 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: the border goes into place. It is going in a 456 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: place now, and they cannot just get rid of it. 457 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: The Biden administration can't. But Clay, there's no there's no 458 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: feeling of remorse or even trepidation from Democrats when they 459 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: do stuff like this. They want to force people to comply, 460 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: and they want to use health policy as a cover 461 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: for what's really a Marxist impulse. Here. Let's be honest. 462 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: This is this is the Democrats pretending to be robin Hood. 463 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: Steal from the rich, give to the poor, although sometimes 464 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: the people renting have more assets than the people that 465 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: are renting from, so it doesn't even work out that way. Well, 466 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: this is also why I think the ultimate legacy of 467 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to be so wildly important. Right 468 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: because you got Gorsuck, because you got Amy Coney Barrett, 469 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: and because you got Brett Cavanaugh Buck. If Donald Trump 470 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: is not president for the previous four years, make no mistake, 471 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court would have upheld the authority of this 472 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: executive order that Joe Biden just made. I mean, this 473 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: is why you need a backstop that is going to 474 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: apply the law in an even and honest and transparent fashion. 475 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: And it is why it is so wildly important that 476 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: we ended up with those three justices on the Supreme Court. 477 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, if you run a cell 478 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: phone company and found out you could make your charges 479 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot lower. I had these guys. 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I mean, it's just a great savings trust 506 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: us on this one dial pound two five zero, say 507 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: pure Talk, you'll have the option to receive a one 508 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: time autodial text message from pure Talk. Close in the 509 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: second hour, coming up into a big third hour of 510 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. 511 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm here in ny Seed, COVID Mania Central, and we've 512 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: got my man Clay Travis out in Nashville, Tennessee, and 513 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: we are talking to you all across the country. We're 514 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna have Alex Barrens in for anyone else. Know. He 515 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: is probably the most high profile contrarian against Fouciism based 516 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: on the data. I think that's a fairway. He's willing 517 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: to say, whole dawn, little lab coat tyrant Fauci is 518 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: actually not correct, and here's why. And he's willing to 519 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: say that all along and so Clay and I have 520 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: been putting him on for a long time, but it 521 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: is open line Friday, eight hundred two two two eight 522 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: two Barrenson in just about fifteen minutes or so, We'll 523 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: be joining us right at the top of the next hour. 524 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: Sharon in Brooklyn, New York, NYC. In the house. What's up, Sharon? Yes, Hi, 525 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm a city employee, and regarding the VACS mandate, I 526 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: was told either I eat VAXX or I don't come back, 527 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: and I just want to know, like where do I 528 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: start in terms of pushing back. I'm one person. We're 529 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: all very much, you know, in our own little bubble, 530 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: and I just want to know, like where I even start, 531 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, the still Blasio is just dictating mandates, you know, 532 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: playing with this communist agenda here, and I just where 533 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: do I go? What do I do? What's your financial situation, Sharon, 534 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: Because I think that's the first question that I would 535 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: ask in general, if you did an have your job tomorrow, 536 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: would you be able to take care of your family? 537 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Would your overall lifestyle be able to continue in the 538 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: same way? Because I think this is where the rubber 539 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: meets the road, and that's the first question that I 540 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: ask anybody on a situation like this, but I think 541 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I would be, Well, you know, when you're a do 542 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: Oe employee, it's it's you know, you have a pension. 543 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: You know they have a like this net. You're you're 544 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: kind of tied into something where like the longer you work, 545 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: the more you know, the better your pension at the end. 546 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: And I guess I worked at the NYPD, I know 547 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: that was the big That was the big thing, Sharon. 548 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was a civilian contractor terrorism expert working 549 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: for an intel division. But I just bring it up 550 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: because I remember those guys they work for twenty for 551 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: their pension, right, So yeah, you leave at sixteen or 552 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: seventeen years or whatever. I mean that that's a huge 553 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's that way for a lot of 554 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: other city jobs. Sharon, there's no This is why I'm 555 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of shouting from the rooftops. We need 556 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: p bull in positions of power in places across the 557 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: country to start protecting under rights of conscience, almost like 558 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: you're a conscientious vaccine objector if you will, under rights 559 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: of conscience an antidiscrimination statue. We have to have people 560 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: who say you can't be forced to get the vaccine. 561 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: It won't happen in New York anytime soon, but if 562 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: it would happen somewhere Clay, at least we'd have the 563 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: beginning of the resistance. Yeah, and look sharing my answer 564 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: and then look, we can't tell you what to do, 565 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: but Buck, what they're trying to do is paint people 566 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: into a corner where they have no other option. And 567 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: that's why I think it's so frustrating to so many 568 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: people out there. If you are required to have your job, 569 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: most people have to get out of bed every day 570 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: and go to work in order to be able to 571 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: live in their lifestyle as is. I'm gonna be honest 572 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: with you. I would go ahead and get the vaccine 573 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: right if I would not put myself into financial straits 574 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: over This is my personal opinion. If you are fortunate 575 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: enough to have financial stability, and or you can go 576 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: to another job because your job is somewhat mobile, I 577 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: would use that as an option. Here, can I just 578 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna jump in and say that, I mean, you might 579 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: have to get the VACS at the next job, though, right, 580 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: this is the thing and new challenge they're going to 581 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: keep chasing you. So I mean, while I hear exactly 582 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Sharon, I think that you gotta do 583 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: what's best for you, and you can be the only 584 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: real judge of that. But I think that you know, 585 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: take care of yourself and your family, and only you 586 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: can really know what that means. I'm sorry you're putting 587 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: this position, and this is why the tyrants all across 588 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: the country are finding ways to force me. This is 589 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: one of the most common questions we get. Buck. Yeah, 590 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: I get this, I bet every day from I don't 591 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: want people that work hard, did the right thing, you know, 592 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't want them losing their pensions. I'm sorry, I 593 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: know you know. I'd like to say, oh, but what 594 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: about this? What about It's not going to change in 595 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: New York? Um, Brad in South Dakota's lightly Sharon. By 596 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the way, thank you for sharing your story. Brad in 597 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: South Dakota. What do you got for us? Hey, Clay 598 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: and Buck love the show. Thanks for taking the call. 599 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm a retired inner city cop spent twenty one years 600 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: in an area near Los Angeles. Have been shot at, punched, 601 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: kick scratch, clad, crashed into, was deployed to the La 602 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: riots in nineteen ninety three. Like to offer a little 603 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: perspective on the Babbitt shooting. Yeah, for one, this man 604 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: is not a hero at all. In my opinion and 605 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: the opinion of every cop I know, He's a coward. 606 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: No manual, no training ever would say in a crowded 607 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: riot of disorderly situation like that, would you indiscriminately crank 608 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: around off into the middle of that crowd without knowing 609 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: who you're firing at or what you're doing. And by 610 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: the way, he claims he was there to protect you know, 611 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: the congress people. Missing that and the other thing. I 612 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: got a question, gentlemen, and nobody's talked about this, think 613 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: about this for a minute. If that guy was really 614 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: believing that, why crank only one round off? Why not 615 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: kill every one of those people as their climates? This 616 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: is what I've been saying, based on it. You tell 617 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: me your actual, actual retired law enforcement based on the 618 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: use of force justification here, he could have shot the 619 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: six people up against that door, killed them too, Right, 620 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: What am I missing? I'm missing anything play And that's 621 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing is it just discussed me as a 622 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: retired cop to hear this guy talked to himself as 623 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: a hero. That's despicable, no matter what the situation. In 624 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: second to her others calling him a hero, He's not 625 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: a hero. He's a coward. He cranked it. He panicked 626 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: and he cranked a round off, and he knew he 627 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: did wrong. That's when he only shot one time. Brad 628 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: really really appreciated important perspective. By the way, I know 629 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of law enforcement experts and people know I 630 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: spent on the MYPD. I got a career now retired 631 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: law enforcement officer, as an uncle, cop, beat cop, and Clay, 632 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: they're all they're all saying the same thing. So people say, oh, 633 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: this is a clear cut Kase. It absolutely is not 634 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: a clear cut case. He used a force. Let me 635 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: also say one other thing. I've never and nor has 636 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: any conservative. They do not celebrate when there's a lethal 637 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: use of for it. It's always a trend. It's always 638 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: a tragedy. There were people celebrating this guy as if 639 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: you know he shot Osama bin Laden on social media yesterday. 640 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: Leftists are psychopaths and the fact that he would even 641 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: claim that he saved countless lives is one hundred percent 642 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: repudiated by what actually happened on that day and we 643 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: talked about this. Hardly anybody's even discussing this story because 644 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: of the mess that's going on in Afghanistan and because 645 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: of COVID when we come back. I think he is 646 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: the most interesting and has been proven to be the 647 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: most often correct person who has been covering COVID since 648 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: this madness began eighteen months ago. Alex Barrenson is going 649 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: to join us and break down the very latest on 650 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: the numbers Israel, England, the declining efficacy of the vaccine, 651 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: the booster shots. He told us all about that weeks ago. 652 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Where are we headed now? He is going to do, 653 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: I think a fantastic job, helping us to close out 654 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: the final hour of the week. Go subscribe to the podcast. 655 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging with us. 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