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Speaker 1: Good Morning of the Dallas Cowboys. Haley sat and Nisha Morrison,

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Speaker 1: Jess Navarrez here with you on this Thursday, and we

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Speaker 1: have so much to talk about it. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I don't really know where to start, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to start with what has been the most popular topic,

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard getting that franchise tag, something that we have

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Speaker 1: talked about for a while now on this pod and

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Speaker 1: justin Cowboy's Nation in general. But it feels like that

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Speaker 1: was the best decision to keep him on the roster.

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Speaker 1: They have until July to figure out a long term deal,

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Speaker 1: or like Dalton Schultz did last season, Tony Pollard will

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Speaker 1: play on the franchise tag. But ladies, the best thing

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Speaker 1: that came out of this news yesterday is that we

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Speaker 1: will have Tony Pollard on this roster in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that is something that we've been waiting

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Speaker 1: to officially here because here's the thing about franchise tagging

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. It was either franchise tag him or sign

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Speaker 1: into a long term deal. And they stell have time

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Speaker 1: to do that, So long term deal not off the table.

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Speaker 1: But this allows for bigger contracts if they choose to

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Speaker 1: keep this franchise tag. So this allows for bigger contracts

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Speaker 1: to end, bigger deals to be made later. Example, Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: that money, that absolutely deserve it, and so this allows

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Speaker 1: for that. And not only that, but if they choose

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Speaker 1: to keep him on this franchise tag for this year,

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Speaker 1: this gives him a year or to really be evaluated.

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Speaker 1: And I know that injury keeps being brought up, but

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Speaker 1: evaluated post injury running backs we know take all the hits.

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Speaker 1: They get Warden down really easily. It allows them to

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Speaker 1: see his productivity within this next year as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to add on to what you said, just I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to see Tony Pollard within the Mike McCarthy system, just

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Speaker 1: the way that he's used his running backs in the past.

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Speaker 1: They are shifty guys. There are guys that can you know,

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Speaker 1: to see him be the guy. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: we've talked about it over and over and over again,

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Speaker 1: like he deserved and all this time. So to your point,

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Speaker 1: the system that he's coming in to, granted, we might

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Speaker 1: see Mike McCarthy refine some things. Suits up player like

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Speaker 1: and letting us know that he's going to be more

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Speaker 1: a contract that's taken up a lot of space, Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 1: At this present moment, the Dallas Cowboys are spending over

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Speaker 1: hard for me to say that because he's become pretty

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Speaker 1: think of Dak and Zeke. Those are there guys, and

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Speaker 1: going to be an issue when you have a Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy in the background calling those plays and making options

430
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Speaker 1: that actually work for Dak, and then you know, seeing

431
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group stepping up, and then you know,

432
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: whatever happens in the draft, happens in the draft, adding

433
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Speaker 1: that if it's offensively and going forward from there, Yeah,

434
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: I want to echo what you said about Dak and

435
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: the vulnerability it takes to talk about losing someone close

436
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: to you in that way. I think in this league

437
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: that is so tough and ra ra that we need

438
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 1: more gentlemen to be doing that. And so it's just

439
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: one of the things about his leadership that I think

440
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: gets it gets hyped, but I don't think people understand

441
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: how serious it is that he setting that example every

442
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: time he gets a platform, which is more often than

443
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: not being a cowboy. So that also, But so with

444
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: this I'm looking for health man. I really do think

445
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: that the last couple of years that Dak has had

446
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: obviously he's had he's dealt with some level of injury

447
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: and that's affected his play. I think we really glazed

448
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: over the fact that he had a pretty serious thumb

449
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: injury to start the season and just kind of how

450
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: that affected how he played for the rest of the season.

451
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: But also with Mike Solari Shoddy coming in here, these

452
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: gentlemen have a record of simplifying things for your quarterback.

453
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: So does Mac McCarthy and it's crazy because we keep

454
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: hearing that. It's like it's it's an insult to Dak

455
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: Prescott and I'm just sitting here, like, that's why teams

456
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: across the league are successful is because there is simplicity

457
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: in what they were doing. If you listen to a

458
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: lot of these players, there was a lack of that

459
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: last season. It's confusion. We would look at film, we

460
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: were looking at tape talking about guys, you know, looking

461
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 1: confused and stuff. So I am excited about while more

462
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: so looking for that from Deck is the health part

463
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: of things, because I think that's affected his play and

464
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: also just him being in an offense that's simplified to

465
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: help him play better and for him to not have

466
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: to be the sole decision maker and a lot of

467
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: key moments. Yeah, I think that's the You say a

468
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: lot of important things, but I think that's the most

469
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: important part is making building this team to put him

470
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: in a situation to feel like he doesn't always have

471
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: to put the team on his back. Please and I

472
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: come by twenty twenty two and it didn't help that.

473
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Speaker 1: You know, the first game of the season, he broke

474
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Speaker 1: some right, so you're coming into the season. You have

475
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: all of this resiliency from last season and you and

476
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: you want to be you know, you want to set

477
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Speaker 1: the standard. And then Game one of twenty twenty two

478
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: and you break your thumb. So then you come back

479
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: in a season where you know, you've got people saying

480
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: that Cooper Rush should be the starter, you know what

481
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean. So if you're Dak, you're coming into this situation.

482
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: So you've you've broken your thumb, the backup quarterback has

483
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 1: gotten it done, and you've got people questioning, you know,

484
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: if you should be here. And as much as I

485
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: don't think he would speak about that, I've spent time

486
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: enough around Dak too. I think Again, this is my

487
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: personal opinion. I think that that got to him and

488
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: so when you were in those situations where you needed

489
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: a hero moment, he wasn't afraid to be the hero.

490
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: And he've been talked about that all season. You know,

491
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: I'm an aggressive quarterback. I'm not gonna be I'm not

492
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: going to change the style of quarterback that I am.

493
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: So my expectations for Dak. You don't have to be

494
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: the guy all the time, like this team is littered

495
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: with guys. Right, You've got Ceedee Lamb, who was so

496
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: impressive in that back half of the season. He's only

497
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: going to continue to move forward. You've got a Michael

498
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: Gallup who is finally, as Sharene kind of talked to

499
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: us about, you know, he's finally getting past that hump

500
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: of an acl in. You've got a Jalen Tilbert who

501
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: spent the year learning and listening and you know, hopefully

502
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: he's out there working so that he can come in

503
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: and meet those expectations. You got Tony Pollard back for

504
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: a year, and whoever else is maybe yeah, maybe you

505
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: sprinkle some. And then on top of that, guys, you

506
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: have a defense who for the most part is coming

507
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: back and bring you games. They're coming back, so please

508
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: please JUSTLP And you know, like Jerry talked about this

509
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: too as well, you know when he was asked about

510
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, like are you okay with your quarterback being

511
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: aggressive that way? And Jerry even said, listen, like we

512
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: back back one, but you know, like we've there's some

513
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: things that he is not perfect at and we need

514
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: to figure that out. And so I hope that in

515
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: these conversations in the off season as they're working to

516
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: possibly extend him rest structure that contract that he has currently.

517
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I hope that those are part of the things that

518
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: are in the conversation of saying like, hey, we know,

519
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: we know you're the guy, we want you to be

520
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the guy, but you don't always have to be. Yeah,

521
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I've got we're building around And I think that's the

522
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: most important thing that anybody said while we were at

523
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: the combine was we are building around Dak Prescott to

524
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: make this his team. Finally, you need to and that's

525
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: what you should That's what you do on the rookie deal. Yeah,

526
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: that's what you do on the but of the contract

527
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott, you will dot dot dot dot. I

528
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: mean really, I think what what's so crazy is you

529
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: can visibly see you don't even have to know much

530
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: about football, and you can see the difference between Dak

531
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Prescott not trying to be the hero and Dak just

532
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: playing because he loves to do it. You can visually

533
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, you can tell when he's not

534
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: feeling that whole weight of the world on his shoulders,

535
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: and you can see when he's like, uh, there you

536
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: go touchdown to or what was that passed to h

537
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton on Christmas Eve. I mean, come on,

538
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: come on. That That is Dak at his absolute best,

539
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: not feeling any kind of pressure. So I hope the

540
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: same thing. What's that mean where they're all of you like, oh,

541
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna chunk it up there. He's gonna

542
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: be down there any somewhere. We can't say. How insulting,

543
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: how insulting, Just going back to that whole conversation when

544
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: people and you were talking about you know you're you're

545
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: around Dac enough to know that it to assume that

546
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: it bothered him, when that conversation was going up between

547
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: him and Cooper Rush, how insulting him constantly. There's one

548
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: thing I've learned about this like, it's he is damned

549
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: if he does, damned if he does. And we're not

550
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: being homers. We're not being Homer's. That's the biggest thing

551
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: is we're not being homers. Just logistically. He is the

552
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: guy period. I literally about to bring him up. I

553
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: would about to say, like, who's our peckhead's. Yeah, we'll

554
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: talk about it, We'll talk about it. Sorry, we get

555
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: distracted here on this show. Let's kind of tailor it

556
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: back in so just for context when it comes to

557
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's contract. He signed a four year, one hundred

558
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: and sixty one hundred sixty dollars L one hundred and

559
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: sixty million. That sounds like my contract regardless, four year,

560
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollar contract back in twenty

561
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: twenty one. Since then, he's made the playoffs in both

562
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: of those years since the extension came, and he has

563
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: led this team to a top five scoring offense over

564
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Arguably this season not quite as

565
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: good as this season before, but injuries, personnel, all that stuff.

566
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: So the point is is he's doing things well. I

567
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: think I think they come to a deal. I think

568
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: you have to recognize too that there's other quarterbacks in

569
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the league who are also going to get paid and

570
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, that's going to depend a lot

571
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: on the contract negotiations. I'm talking Joe Burrow who said

572
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Justin Herbert. Those two guys to me are

573
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: one that stand out that will probably influence how those

574
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: negotiations go. So do you mean to tell me Daniel

575
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Jones's contract? Girl? By the mark is the market girl, boy,

576
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about I did want to bring that

577
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: up only because everybody who was saying that Dak does

578
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: not deserve a contract extension, they don't want to lease. No,

579
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing about people who say that they don't

580
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: want to care like they don't because there's no way

581
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: that you don't see that. The market just does what

582
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the market does. And that's just how in any other

583
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: profession like this happens, and it's it's no big deal.

584
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: But because as Dak Prescott, he doesn't deserve it, it's

585
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: real weird behavior is really just it's it's the unfortunate

586
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: part of being a member of the Cowboys. Way like,

587
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: that's just that's just the reality. When you play with

588
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the star in your helmet, you're under a lot more

589
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: scrutiny than what anyone else will be. Let's very quickly

590
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: shift to one of Dak's most trusty targets in Dalton Schultz.

591
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: He played under the franchise tag last season. They have

592
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: obviously passed that franchise tag over to Tony, so it

593
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: is possible that Dalton Schultz does not return. Something interesting

594
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: that I found from our conversation with Jerry as well.

595
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I asked him about that, you know, I said, you

596
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: talked about the priority of trying to work something out

597
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: with Zeke, do you feel that same energy when it

598
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: comes to Dalton Schultz? And I thought this answer was

599
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: so interesting. Basically he said, we liked Dalton, but we

600
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know how we're going to utilize the tight ends

601
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: in our new look offense, you know. And I again

602
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I speculation here at best, but it sounded like we

603
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: like Dalton, but he's too expensive and we got guys

604
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: who can come in and ball. Regardless, Dalton should have

605
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: signed his deal last season when the negotiations were coming

606
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: forth because now you have two new guys that have

607
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: entered the chat in Henny and furg that because oh man,

608
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: that that gave the Cowboys all the leverage they need.

609
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: Did for Dalton Schultz to be like, all right, but

610
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: you don't want this, see yuh it did. And when

611
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: you have two productive guys like the tight well in

612
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: three because you even have Sean mccuten that, it doesn't

613
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: get appreciated as much as he should. But oh man, Dalton, yeah, yeah.

614
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Sorry to add on to the tight end conversation and

615
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: about like Jerry Sam, we don't know how the tight

616
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: ends are going to be used in the name they

617
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: kind of do they do they do. That's what I'm saying.

618
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: It's a code for like, sorry, we don't know how

619
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you can be used. Well, yeah, because he is like

620
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: and I talked to the guys about this off offline

621
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: um on the Draft show is just looking back at

622
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: some of Mike McCarthy's uh last what five or six

623
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: tight ends. I'm just gonna name him for you, so

624
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Ja Michael Finley, Andrew Corliss, Jared Cook, Martellis Bennett, Jimmy Graham,

625
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. These are guys with athleticism. They have they

626
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: have the ability like our receiver type feel, but they're

627
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: just athletes, Like they're big, strong guys that can get

628
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: after it. And I'm like, okay, so he kind of

629
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: has a not a tight but he definitely ly likes

630
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: a the non traditional he might, but the non traditional

631
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: tight end kind of seems like his jam Right and

632
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Dalton schultz An offense is more of the traditional tight end.

633
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna catch you the ball, he's gonna get you

634
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: that first down, and he's gonna sit down. Yeah. It's

635
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of funny to see how the

636
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: tables have turned for him, because you look at what

637
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: happened with Blake Jarwin and how he ended up being

638
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: tight end one in this entire situation, and given this

639
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: wasn't because of injury like it was with Blake Jarwin.

640
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: But when Blake left, it was okay, Dalton, can you

641
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: step up? And now I think when you even look

642
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320
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643
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,880
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644
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: So it's kind of interesting to see how the tides

645
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,640
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646
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160
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647
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,680
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648
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,960
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649
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200
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650
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653
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654
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00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: off season, let's get into a couple more of these

701
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: free agents at the Cowboys. In my opinion, I think

702
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: really need to figure it out when it comes to them.

703
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk offensive line first. A restricted free agent, Terrence Steal.

704
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: The team announced that they put a second round tinder

705
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: on him earlier in the week. I had to do

706
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: some reading and some scouting to figure out what exactly

707
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: that meant. Basically, what it means is that they're allowing

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: to other teams to speak to him to come up

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: with a deal. The Cowboys have the first opportunity of refusal,

710
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: so they have the opportunity to either match whatever deal

711
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: is given to him, or they can give him away

712
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: in return for a second round pick. Why are you

713
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: making that face? We talked about this. I hate when

714
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: you do that because I don't know why you're doing

715
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: because that's terrify like in a way, Terrence Steel is

716
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: a dude, and we saw how much him being out

717
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: changed the run game. And I just tackle right tackle specifically,

718
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to come by. And when you look at

719
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: his backstory and people look at his story, he's cultable.

720
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a package. He's become a pack. Can

721
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: now believe it. Two years ago he was like, get

722
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: this man out the fail. Yeah, but he has become

723
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: a package and I second round pick will be dope.

724
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: It would be nice, But I just I don't know,

725
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe a little tight thinking about the fact he conversing

726
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: with other teams and stuff, man like what they like

727
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: a man. Something Something Mickey Spagnola pointed out to me

728
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: yesterday when I was talking to him about this, though,

729
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: is that, you know, going back to injury and how

730
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: it impacks a player. He's coming off of that ACL injury,

731
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: and while they have been adamant in saying that he

732
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: is above schedule, they expect him to be available before

733
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: training camp in July at least to be able to

734
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: go through the drills and whatnot, the reality is is

735
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: that hurts your marketability, especially when you're an undrafted free agent.

736
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: And so the thought process with doing that second round tender,

737
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: as disrespectful as it feels, right, the thought process there

738
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: is saying we're going to shop him out, We're going

739
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: to see what he gets. YEA, our team's gonna bite.

740
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Are they going to be willing to take the chance

741
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: that we took? And the hope is that they're able

742
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: to bring him back on either a one or a

743
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: two year deal and that way they can kind of

744
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: evaluate where they're at at that position too, because you

745
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: have to realize as well, like with that offensive line,

746
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: as much as we have loved Zach Martin as a staple,

747
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: as much as we have loved Tyrant Smith as a staple,

748
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: those guys are in the back half of their career

749
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: and while we haven't necessarily seen a drop off just

750
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: yet with the way Zach Martin is played, it's coming. Yeah. Yeah,

751
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: that's the reality. It may not be this year, it

752
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: may not be the year after that. But he's been

753
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: doing the thing for a minute, you know, doing thing

754
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: with Tyrann Smith. You know, we saw him come off

755
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: of that evulsion fracture and then step in at right

756
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: tackle and it's apparent that he's not going to be

757
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: the swing next year. Yeah, So you just have some

758
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: big decisions, and so I think when it comes to

759
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Tarrant Steel, the second round tender, now that I understand

760
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: what it means, I think that that's your best your

761
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: best bet, the best bet there with him. Yeah. I

762
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: think with Terrence Steele, something too is the versatility that

763
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: we've seen in this O line, and he fits right

764
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: into that. I mean, all of these guys are so versatile,

765
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: and we talk about it time and time again, but

766
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I cannot fathom how easy they make it look to

767
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: just drop what they're doing, to be like, all right,

768
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: you want me to play right guard, kay? You want

769
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: me to play right tackle, Okay, you want me to

770
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: go to left side, kay. I mean, it's incredible to

771
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: be able to have that amount of talent as a player,

772
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: but to have that amount of talent on your entire

773
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: O line is insane, And I think agewise, for Terrence Steel,

774
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: it makes sense to try to keep him as much

775
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: as you can, because, like you said, guys aren't getting

776
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: any younger here, and with that O line, like we

777
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: were talking about, with a running back position, those guys,

778
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: they're big guys, but they're taking the brunt of those

779
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: hits time and time and time again, that's naturally going

780
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: to wear your body down, and you know it's it's

781
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: just going to be interesting to see how this old

782
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: line shape up to be this next season. It can

783
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: get better, Yeah, yeah, it can get better. I think

784
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: this offensive line has potential to get better, whether it

785
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: be drafting, whether it be them shifting guys around, however

786
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: they decide to do it. I think they can be

787
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: better than what they were last year. And I thought

788
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: they were pretty freaking good considering what I don't think

789
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: anyone's expectations whether you're high for the offensive line. So yeah,

790
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I agree. And I think if the last year's NFL

791
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: season as a whole taught you anything, it taught you

792
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the value of having a healthy O line because I

793
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: would wager there was about five teams ratchet fingernail, five

794
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: teams that had a healthy O line for the majority

795
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: of the season. And so when you think about, you know,

796
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: what other teams were going through as well, I think

797
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: I think they get something done with Terrence. I hope

798
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: they get something done with Terrence. He's a great guy.

799
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: You know. We talked about character as well with these guys,

800
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: so that's also something to monitor. And then of course,

801
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: all of our pet cat a little bit, we'll get

802
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: into new pet cats and just say, but Donovan Wilson,

803
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: another guy on this team who solidified himself last season,

804
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: had the best season of his career, one hundred and

805
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: one tackles, seven tackles from last five sacks. All of

806
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: this as a safety, y'all, the Saint, a linebacker, the Saint.

807
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: It depends of end. This is your safety making these plays.

808
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't have his contract information in front of me

809
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: at the moment, but it's difficult because when you think

810
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: about the production that he had this season, you know

811
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: him just quietly climbing the ranks as one of the

812
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: most important players on the defense, the chemistry that he

813
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: has with guys like Jayron and Malie Cooker. Mike was

814
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: pretty open and saying that they want to get something

815
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: done with him, but as we know the way this works,

816
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't know what that means until there's

817
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: pen to paper. But out of his hands too, man,

818
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: he if you're going to have a contract year, this

819
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: was it. Donald did it. I mean first full season,

820
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: he bawled out, He showed everything he was capable of.

821
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: They moved him too different spots because of injury and stuff.

822
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: And yeah, I I it would be tough to see

823
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: him go, but I do understand them feeling like that

824
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: they could bring someone in and do what he does.

825
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: The tone setting, I don't know, let's see like that

826
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: attitude leaving that locker room to me means something because

827
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: he look crazy. He look crazy, Hey, man, like he

828
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: a look crazy. But that's what I think. That's why

829
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: he fit into this defense. And really, I mean, I'm

830
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: telling you, when you a linebacker and your safety is

831
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: in the box, tackling like that, it makes you have

832
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: to look in the box and maybe I need to

833
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: step my game up if my safety's coming down crunching

834
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, like someone play harder. Absolutely, absolutely, So

835
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: it's my feeling's gonna be hurt and I'll be a

836
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Donna's one of those players that I wouldn't Yeah, you

837
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: just just for you. Donna is one of those players

838
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: that obviously you want to see him get a contract

839
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. But if he doesn't, I'm still gonna

840
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: follow that I'm watching because he's going to be a

841
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: phenomenal no matter where he goes. Yeah, if he's I

842
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: don't want to say if he's in the wrong in

843
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: the right spot, but depending on which kind of defensive

844
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: scheme he lands up in. Oh my goodness, scary. Yeah,

845
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not a player. I would like to

846
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys go against at any point. Let's just

847
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: put it that way. I agree, I agree. I'm not

848
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: in the mood for either. Let's get to a couple

849
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: of questions. Thank you, guys, by the way, for sending

850
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: us some questions on Twitter. We're still trying to work

851
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: into baby taking some phone calls eventually, but we appreciate

852
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: your engagement on Twitter, ladies. The first one that we

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Speaker 1: have is from Mario Powers. Well that's his Twitter name, Mario.

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Speaker 1: I actually knows name. Yeah, okay, cool, what up Mario?

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Speaker 1: He says, now that the combine is over, do y'all

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Speaker 1: have a pet cat? I do? But I want to

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Speaker 1: go last? Why you want to go? Lie? I know,

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Speaker 1: because I like the suspense. You go ahead, all right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's kind of corny. But Duce

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Speaker 1: Vaughan is so fun to watch, yeah from Kansas statement.

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Speaker 1: He's he's just he's just fun to watch. I was

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Speaker 1: watch him go through drills and with his size and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's just so interesting to see how explosive he is

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Speaker 1: and how fun he's energetic. He just seems like he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be good to any locker room he's in, and

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Speaker 1: he's trying to contribute early. And I know they have

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Speaker 1: some lineage in this game, if I'm not mistaken. He

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Speaker 1: and his brother, right, his dad. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: his brother, but his dad is a scout here. We

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Speaker 1: actually will have that story coming up pretty soon on

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Speaker 1: our show called The Blitz. We got a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk I know, right, yeah, shameless plug. We got a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to him and his dad, So we'll

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Speaker 1: have that coming up pretty shortly on our website as well.

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Speaker 1: But yes, yes, it was cool to hear him talk

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Speaker 1: too about how much it would mean to spend more

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Speaker 1: time with his dad. That's just like the son part

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Speaker 1: of him coming out. So I loved that. Look, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm on that tight end choo choo train. I love

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Speaker 1: me a good tight end. Sounds horrible, bye, but no,

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Speaker 1: I do. I love. I love a good clutch tight

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Speaker 1: end in these situations with the offense, because we've seen

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Speaker 1: what it can do when you have a heny and

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Speaker 1: ferg and then say, Dalton Schultz is no longer in

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Speaker 1: the picture. I'm gonna go with tight end Luke Shoemaker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got a one on one with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did. He met with the Cowboys, and he ranked

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Speaker 1: top five in every single category in the combine that

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Speaker 1: he was a part of. And then I think what's

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Speaker 1: really cool about him is, yes, he could act as

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Speaker 1: your tight end, you your clutch guy in situations which

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Speaker 1: if you're missing Dalton Schultz, you need that clutch guy,

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Speaker 1: which I think will be Jake Ferguson. But I want

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Speaker 1: to add another option there and the pass pro. That's

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Speaker 1: another thing that I think Luke can bring in is

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Speaker 1: the pass pro. And I'm all about that pass pro.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Luke. Yeah. I liked Luke.

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Speaker 1: I liked my conversation that I had with him, And

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that more in a second, because we

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Speaker 1: have another question about the tight end. So hold on

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Speaker 1: to that, my pet cat. And I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: this off by saying, prior to the combine, I was

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Speaker 1: team Bijon. It was Bijen or bust on this side.

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Speaker 1: We want, we want him. He talked about having a

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Speaker 1: relationship with Zeke and how much of a benefit that's

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Speaker 1: been for him him. So that's really good. However, my

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Speaker 1: new pet cat Ladies and gents is Jamir Gibbs, and

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Speaker 1: I think just listening to him speak, you know, as

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Speaker 1: someone who used to cover Auburn and Alabama, I am

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Speaker 1: no longer a closeted Auburn and Alabama fan. I get

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Speaker 1: to speak about that freely and it's awesome. So watching

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Speaker 1: him play, you know, you see the type of runner

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Speaker 1: he is. He's very much a hybrid. I think of

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Speaker 1: what Tony Pollard and Ezeko Elliott do and I love

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Speaker 1: that option for an offense that is likely moving on

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Speaker 1: from their veteran running back. Now you're bringing in a

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Speaker 1: guy who has proven explosiveness. He's played at all you

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Speaker 1: know levels of collegiate football and showed to be an

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Speaker 1: instant impact. So I really like Jamir Gibbs from his

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Speaker 1: you know style of running. But I also just really

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Speaker 1: loved talking to him. I think that he was a

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Speaker 1: tremendous interview. He had a great personality, a good mix

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Speaker 1: of personality and fun. And my runner up is ty

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Speaker 1: Jay Spears, and I'm going to tell you why I

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Speaker 1: asked him about playing in the Cotton Bowl and he

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Speaker 1: was like, joscat and T Stadium, that place is live,

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Speaker 1: you know, And so I think just being able to

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Speaker 1: add a personality. Again, he's got great production as well,

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Speaker 1: but I think being able to add a personality into

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Speaker 1: this locker room that's already full of personalities, I think

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Speaker 1: he would fit right in. So that's the first question.

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Speaker 1: Second question comes from Oscar Pacheco with the rumors of

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Speaker 1: wanting to take a tight end with the first pick.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite I'm going with. I just

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Speaker 1: said Luke Shootmaker's and that's just because again I like

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Speaker 1: what I saw as far as you know, his speed

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Speaker 1: and really his shiftiness. I think he's light on his feet,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's very important for that tight end position.

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Speaker 1: Was specifically what I used just talking earlier about how

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has a tight end type. If you will,

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Speaker 1: I think he would fit right in. So I'm on

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Speaker 1: that train. I'm on the tight end first round train.

943
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Speaker 1: If you're that's interesting. Yeah, I think it's easy to

944
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Speaker 1: say Dalton Kinkai, but I think he's gonna be gone.

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Speaker 1: So um Tuckercraft is a tight end that I find

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Speaker 1: I like him because I feel like he can do

947
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Speaker 1: a little bit of everything well and he is moldible

948
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Speaker 1: and no innocence. So if you get him in and

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Speaker 1: he gets with lunda wells or he gets with a

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Speaker 1: tight ends coach, I think he can do so much

951
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Speaker 1: of everything and he adds to add to that room

952
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Speaker 1: to add to everything. So he's one of the guys

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Speaker 1: that I really am interested in in and I've been

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Speaker 1: looking at him because he also played running back in

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Speaker 1: high school, so he has the vision to to you know,

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Speaker 1: break tackles and continue to get down field. So Tuckercraft

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Speaker 1: is a gentleman I like as well. Yeah, I liked

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Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave on the basis of his background comes from

959
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Speaker 1: his skiing. His mom is like a world champion skier,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was so interesting. And literally he was

961
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Speaker 1: like in the winter it was all about skin and

962
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Speaker 1: in the spring and Fallen is all about football. So

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Speaker 1: I love that he you know, just have to do

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Speaker 1: some digging. But I imagine the science behind being a skier.

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Speaker 1: The legs helped him, you know, to be a tight end,

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Speaker 1: the balance and the leg strings. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: another guy that impressed me again, like I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to be an Alabama homer here, but Cameron Lattu just

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Speaker 1: listening to how he spoke about blocking. You know, he

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Speaker 1: literally said, you know, blocking has become such an integral

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Speaker 1: part of the way this tight end position has morphed

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Speaker 1: into because you're basically an extension of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: When you're a tight end, you're you know, you're you're

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Speaker 1: holding those blocks, You're creating the space so that you're

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Speaker 1: running back and get going, or you're opening up a

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Speaker 1: space so that your wide receiver can get downfield, or

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Speaker 1: you're opening up the space for yourself. And I love

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Speaker 1: that he you know, he was like, everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: score touchdowns, but you know it's important to make sure

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Speaker 1: that everybody can score touchdowns in how I'm doing my role.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting. You guys, keep the

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Speaker 1: questions coming. We will be back obviously next Thursday. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll have some clarity as far as some of these

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Speaker 1: contracts go, and we will get into a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about what the Cowboys should do with their nine

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Speaker 1: draft picks. But you'll have to join us next week

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Speaker 1: for that conversation for Aisha Morrison and Jess Navarrez. I'm

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Speaker 1: Hayley Sutton. This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next week. Ye. This has been a production

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