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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week seventeen Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman, the

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Speaker 2: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, who said that the

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Speaker 2: fantasy season has to end with Week sixteen. In this episode,

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Speaker 2: we're taking a quick look at the season long player

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Speaker 2: props in futures that we are sweating as we entered

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Speaker 2: the final week of the year. We're breaking down, of course,

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Speaker 2: the players at the top of our rankings available network

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Fantasy. We were discussing the guys that

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Speaker 2: we were high and low on, and we were speculating

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Speaker 2: on some Week seventeen props with me as always as

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Speaker 2: Sean Corner and Chris Raymond Shawn as our director of

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Speaker 2: predictive Analytics and one of the top end season fantasy

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Speaker 2: football rankers for the past half decade, and Chris is

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Speaker 2: a senior editor and analyst at the Action Network and

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Speaker 2: XM Fantasy Radio. Gentlemen, let's jump into it. I want

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Speaker 2: to hear what season long player props in futures you

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Speaker 2: guys are sweating heading into week seventeen. Sean hit me

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Speaker 2: with what is making you blush?

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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about it before we came on, but

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray his over passing yurds is a popular prop

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Speaker 1: we all took, and I feel like it started out

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Speaker 1: at what like threey one hundred, yeah, and then eventually

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Speaker 1: crept up to probably like thirty five hundred. I must

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Speaker 1: have taken it when it was about thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: But when I wrote my article and we had our

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Speaker 1: podcas cast, the best line available is thirty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: So I posted that play and right now he's three

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Speaker 1: yards short and looks like a game time decision this week,

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Speaker 1: so we just even to play. I guess he got

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Speaker 1: looking good there, but everything else is pretty much locked up.

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Speaker 1: I had Lamar Jackson under thirty two hundred passing yards,

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Speaker 1: and you know, due to the week seventeen Shanigans, looks

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Speaker 1: like I'm gonna win that luckily. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: tried to focus more on the bigger payout props because

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Speaker 1: I get limited pretty hard. So I took a lot

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Speaker 1: of those most yardage props. So I had Jamis Winston

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Speaker 1: at eleven to one, I think it was for most

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Speaker 1: passing yards. That looks pretty good right now. And I

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Speaker 1: took Nick Chubb at like eighteen to one or twenty

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Speaker 1: to one for most rushing yards. He has to hold

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Speaker 1: off McCaffrey and Henry this week, but that's looking good too.

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Speaker 1: And then I had the Chris Godwin one hundred and

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Speaker 1: one most receiving yards. He you know, look, I get

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Speaker 1: a shot that Mike Thomas definitely dominated that market, so

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Speaker 1: And hopefully we can get Kyler Murray to just you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty four hundred passing yards this year, Ramon, what about you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as sweating, it's also a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Kyler props. Obviously, twenty and a half touchdowns that he

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Speaker 4: would need three this week Rookie of the Year at

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Speaker 4: six to one, So we'll see about that. As far

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Speaker 4: as like props that already hit. Mentioned gave Sean a

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Speaker 3: Got that in the bag last week.

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Speaker 4: And I tend to bet almost every interception under and

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Speaker 4: most of those are looking pretty good. I don't think

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Speaker 4: I took Jamis's, thank god, but yeah, those are usually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm there, Sean with you on Jamis Winston

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Speaker 2: to lead the league in passing fifteen to one, I

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Speaker 2: think is where I got him. And he's a lock there. Chubb,

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Speaker 1: They'll probably give it to him in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on the radar. And Rayvon, you mentioned Kyler

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Speaker 2: slightly better than break even. And then if one of

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Speaker 2: he could actually have one thousand yards and ten touchdowns

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have a big game and help lead

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Speaker 4: Like Sanders is in kind of that same boat, like

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Speaker 4: if he has a big Week seventeen, that Eagles go

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Speaker 2: And during Week seventeen, Yeah, Sanders has looked the past

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Speaker 2: past couple of weeks like the offensive rookie of the year,

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Speaker 2: And then one small, really minor one that's on the radar,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins. He's at three eight hundred and thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I can set up a snarre you can head

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Speaker 1: your bet there three hundred yards against the Dolphins. It's possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible. All right, let's get into the week

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Speaker 2: seventeen rankings. That's right. I can't believe that we are

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Speaker 2: degenerate enough on a Monday night and Sean for you

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Speaker 2: on a Monday afternoon to create week seventeen rankings, especially

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Speaker 2: for some guys we didn't even know we're going to

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Speaker 2: be signed at, like Marshawn Lynch. But here's where we are.

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Speaker 2: It's week seventeen. Let's talk about the quarterbacks. At the

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Speaker 2: top of our rankings. We have dak against Washington, Breeze

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Speaker 2: City going against the Chargers. Sean, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on any quarterbacks who are relatively high on this week?

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, this is basically a DFS week only.

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Speaker 1: So Case Keenum at forty five hundred getting the start

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Speaker 1: but yeah, Case Keenum obviously he has that chemistry with McLaurin.

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Speaker 1: so I could see him airing it out. So and

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to you know, strategize which positions

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Speaker 1: you know, spinning down to get Case Keenu. At forty

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Speaker 2: Case Keenum forty five are yours?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that Sean basically said it. You know,

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Speaker 4: Sean mentioned, he's had a lot better chemistry with McLaren

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Speaker 3: And Steven Simm's coming on too. But another guy.

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Speaker 4: I like is Jared Goff sixty two hundred. He's at

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Speaker 4: at home. He's against the Cardinals, who have been you know,

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Speaker 4: essentially the best quarterback matchup as well.

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Speaker 3: So you know, this is.

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Speaker 4: A spot where I think we'll see if the Rams

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Speaker 4: I don't know why they would rest guys, and this

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Speaker 4: Maybe they'll try to get Brandon Cooks some stats. So

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Speaker 4: I like as long as he as long as we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, raye On, I'm with you. Derek Goff had his

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Speaker 2: best perfer for months of the season against the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: in Week thirteen, and he is actually popping in the

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Speaker 2: sexiest of our models at Fantasy Labs, which of course

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Speaker 2: is the Friedman model, another guy in addition to Goff

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Speaker 2: that I am relatively high on, and I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: surprised you guys aren't higher on him in the rankings.

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Speaker 2: Grated it is early in the week. But Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a team and the Titans that

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Speaker 4: If Alan sits, what happens to the over under it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to look at the market here, the Bills

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Speaker 2: won't really be playing to win this game. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: everyone should check out the props tool that we have

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Speaker 2: with the back quality of ten have hit at a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Mattion earlier. This is the least confident prop

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Speaker 1: But it's Ryan Fitzpatrick's passing yards at New England and

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Speaker 2: I'll take the over. I have it at two point

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Speaker 2: And the fact that the Patriots are likely without two

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Speaker 1: What do you have for his interception projection? A fun

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Speaker 4: I've never seen an interception prop's high in my model.

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Speaker 1: Over.

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Speaker 3: But yo, I don't even know how he got here.

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Speaker 2: Broke Sew just took your prop in this segment where

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Speaker 2: he's offering a prop that's great, Hey, Raybau, Where are

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Speaker 4: I have him a little bit over because I have

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Speaker 2: Sean, you think over one point.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying it's gonna be one of those games.

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Speaker 2: Line, right, that would be so epic. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: relatively high on at the position?

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Speaker 1: So okay, it looks like I'm to steal one from Rayvaughn.

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Speaker 1: Le'Veon Bell, I'll let him talk about him. But the

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Speaker 1: other guy I'm high on is Sony Michelle at forty

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Speaker 1: nine hundred against the Dolphins. You know, this is an

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Speaker 1: You know, Rex burke Head going off like last week

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Speaker 1: think forty nine hundred just taking Michelle hoping for you know,

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Speaker 2: In the weekly betting guys that we put out at

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you there on Sony Michelle. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says you bet the Dolphins plus sixteen to five,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's anything in between sixteen and a half

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I don't know this is an exact prout right.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let's kick it to you Raymond talking

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Speaker 4: So Leveon Bell is playing against the Buffalo Bills, who,

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Speaker 2: One guy I mentioned him earlier. I'm relatively high on

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, Sean, who are you relatively low on?

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Speaker 1: So the two running backs I'm low on? Are you know?

433
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: I typically say these types of backs for Week seventeen. They're,

434
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, the the workhorse backs that are pretty expensive,

435
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: but they're on teams with nothing to play for, so

436
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: there's no real reason to give them their usual workload on.

437
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: The first guy is Marlon Mack at sixty nine hundred

438
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. You know, it's a great matchup. The Jaguars

439
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: basically giving up for you know, some time now, but

440
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: the Colts have nothing to play for. He's pretty expensive

441
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: for what he is, and you know, I could see

442
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: them just working in Jordan Wilkins and even Jonathan Williams

443
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: Moore this week. So I wouldn't trust him at that price.

444
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: He basically has to score one or two touchdowns. I

445
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. And the other guy is Saquon

446
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: Barkley at eighty seven hundred. I mean he completely salaged

447
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen season. The past two weeks definitely won

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: some trophies for some people. But this week against the Eagles,

449
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: who are a pass funnel defense, this isn't a great matchup.

450
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: They're playing for something, you know, making the playoffs, and

451
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: the Giants don't really have anything to play for. So

452
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: I could see them, you know, not giving Barkley the

453
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: full workload looking forward to you know, twenty twenty, and

454
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Speaker 1: not getting him hurt. So eighty seven hundred. He's not

455
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: the type of player you want to pay up for

456
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. Typically you want to pay up for

457
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: guys and must win spot. So fading both those running

458
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: backs this week rayvond who he.

459
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Speaker 4: Got Devonte Freeman. He's up at sixty five K. The

460
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks he had really good matchups. He's

461
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 4: been getting involved in the past game. But this this

462
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 4: is just a tough matchup. And the Falcons are another

463
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: team with nothing to play for, and they actually have

464
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 4: a couple of young backs behind Freeman that they probably

465
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 4: want to get a look at, Quadri Allison who's been

466
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: stealing some goal line work, and then you know Brian Hill,

467
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 4: He's another guy that they might want to just give

468
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: a couple more carries too as well. So you know,

469
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay is number one in run defense DVOA and

470
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: number two in DVOA on passes to running backs. So

471
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: tough matchup in a spot where there's a four man

472
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: rotation working in because they use Barner in the backfield

473
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: a bit too, So staying away from him at sixty five.

474
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Speaker 2: All right, one guy I'm relatively low on, and I

475
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: think he's going to be someone you know, we come

476
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Speaker 2: back to throughout the week in rigu dammon Derrick Henry,

477
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, because he is one of those lead guys

478
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: who is in a must win spot. But he didn't

479
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: play last week, so there are questions about his hamstring.

480
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Dion Lewis looked particularly good last week,

481
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: but if Derrick Henry isn't fully healthy, they could shift

482
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of the workload to Dion Lewis

483
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: even if Henry is playing. So he's someone I'm just

484
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: kind of holding my breath on right now. You guys

485
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: both have him ranked in the top ten. I have

486
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: him at number fifteen. I'm sure as we get more

487
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: you know, practice reports, I'll probably bump him up a

488
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: little bit. But I'm just I'm a little uncertain about him,

489
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: and I kind of like to get your thoughts on

490
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: him a little bit because he is probably one of

491
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: the high priced guys that people really will be considering

492
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Speaker 2: payin for this week.

493
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Speaker 4: So for you my initial projection, I basically, you know,

494
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 4: took off what you usually take off for. You know,

495
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: a guy that's you know, coming back from an injury

496
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: or going to play through a tag and that's his workload,

497
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: and he has such a high workload anyway, I think

498
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: it's around like eighty six percent of the carries went

499
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Speaker 4: healthy and that was counting one game where he probably

500
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 4: really wasn't healthy.

501
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: That he still projects for, you know, about.

502
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: Eighty percent of the carries, even when you kind of

503
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: knock him down a bit. So you know, I guess

504
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: we will see what happens in the practice reports. But

505
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, you talk about this all the time. The

506
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 4: Texan defense is, you know, it's not very good, and

507
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: all Derrick Henter needs is a couple of those big

508
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: runs and that's what he kind of specializes in, those

509
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: chunk runs. So it's hard to knock him down too much.

510
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 4: But it could be a mixing situation. Maybe where you know,

511
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: you get word that he's just not not really good

512
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: and uh and then we knock him down with it more.

513
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: But for now, yeah, I just kind of have him

514
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: on that initial normal injured running back tag.

515
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: If we get a pregame video of him walking out

516
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: of the tunnel the way that mixing didn't last week

517
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: dropping him out out of the thirties.

518
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously. But so yeah, I'm there with you, guys,

519
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: But I think last week was more precautionary. They didn't

520
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: the Titans didn't really have anything to gain from that game.

521
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: It was all going to come down to this matchup anyway,

522
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: So I think they just held him out for strategic reasons,

523
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: just give him some time to heal up so he

524
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: could be culture to one hundred percent. Then I realized,

525
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: but obviously this is something we need a monitor, and

526
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: it's not like DK where it's full point PPR eighty

527
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: one hundred. He's definitely too expensive. You know, he usually

528
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: has to score one or two touchdowns tit that price

529
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: in GPP. So yeah, I'm with you, guys. I would

530
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: concern him a fade this week.

531
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, give us the running back prop all right,

532
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: so we have.

533
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: To do it, but Marshawn Lynch total rushing yards rushing

534
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: yards only at home against the foreign Anders, must win game.

535
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't.

536
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: I honestly don't even know what line I have right now.

537
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm making up as I go along.

538
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean, we were joking around having different backs of

539
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: the Seahawks backfield, and I guess I lucked out by

540
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: getting Lynch and Turbine, right, So I'm gonna set the

541
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: line at forty and a half under.

542
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go under as well, but I

543
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: have it at thirty eight point two. It's not as

544
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: if I'm all that far from you, but like that's

545
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: just a wild guess.

546
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: You know, Well, you guys have the carries at ten

547
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: and a half right now. Yeah, I just put him

548
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: eight eight eight Wrench Homer Turban Like that's so that's

549
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: the difference.

550
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: I have him. I have him at nine. You know

551
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: it's I mean, who really knows, But yeah, I mean

552
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: I think eight sounds like a reasonable floor considering who

553
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: he is and who Travis Homer is. So you know,

554
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: I like, I think they're not gonna want to overload him,

555
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: but I think they did get him to use him,

556
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: so right, right, Yeah.

557
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's fair.

558
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: I just don't like it's it's more so like, okay

559
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: him versus Turbin and Homer and the fact that it's

560
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 4: kind of like a Mike Boone situation too, where like

561
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: Homer caught what like five passes last week. If the

562
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: Seahawks fall behind and they are underdogs against the forty

563
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: nine ers, does wins get those pass down snaps? Probably not,

564
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: So he's just probably not in the game. Uh, you

565
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I'm being a little conservative there,

566
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a wild guest.

567
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I mean, when was the last time Robert

568
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: Turbin had an NFL touch?

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: Oh, last year, I guess last year or something.

570
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: The last time I remember him, he was just like

571
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: a goal eye vulture for Frank Gore or something. So yeah,

572
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's been a while.

573
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't give carries for it, don't give don't

574
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: They've gotta give carries to somebody.

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly, yeah.

576
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: Big belore.

577
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he got a touchdown last week. He's first

578
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: he stole our Arizona tight end touchdown.

579
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: It's like true, yeah, all right, let's uh, let's talk

580
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: about the wide receivers. Here the guys at the top

581
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: of the rankings Michael Thomas at Carolina, Julio at Tampa Bay,

582
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: and Hopkins versus Tennessee. Sean, I'm going to skip you

583
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: and go to Raybon first because I don't want you

584
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: to snipe him once again. Raybond, who are you relatively

585
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: high on this one?

586
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: Is probably much harder to snipe because I have like

587
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: a bunch of low priced guys. So Steven Simms Junior

588
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: forty seven, one hundred, he's been coming on strong, running

589
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: pretty much all of the playing.

590
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: A full time role over his last three four games.

591
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: Now he has case Keaton, which I think is a

592
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: step up in quarterback, so I like him at four

593
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: point seven k.

594
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: I think he's one of those guys.

595
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: That you know, kind of end of the year Washington

596
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: needs guys to catch passes McLaurin, and then it's Sims

597
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: as a number two, and then some.

598
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: More dart though types.

599
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: But Christian Blake, you know, I've noticed that he's been

600
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: essentially running routes. He ran seventy four routes over the

601
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: past three games, and he has one target.

602
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: So regression Tampa Bay.

603
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: You know, They're a team that generally is a pass funnel,

604
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: so I think he's an interesting play that's probably going

605
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: to be less than one percent owned.

606
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: Alan Wizard, you know he's coming on strong.

607
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: I think this is a game where the Packers might

608
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: have some success through the air, and I like Wizard

609
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: as like a pivot off Davante and then Javon Wims

610
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: is another one of those dark throws.

611
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: Got nine targets last week.

612
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: I thought they were going to play Riley Ridley a

613
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: lot more, but apparently it was just because Wims was hurt,

614
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: So he got nine targets last week.

615
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Minnesota cornerbacks have been kind of shaky on the outside.

616
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: So in a game, in a kind of weird game

617
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: where we don't know exactly you know, who's playing for

618
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: what and who cares about what? I think Wims is

619
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: an interesting guy at men price who could get a

620
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: ton of targets.

621
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, who do you got here?

622
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: So just real quick, Raybon, how many routs perro percent

623
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: drop back? Did you have blake for last week? Because

624
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: the data feed I have has zero?

625
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: Oh so you know what?

626
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm pretty sure where you got your data

627
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: from and what you have to do is for guys

628
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: that don't get targeted, you have to go in manually and.

629
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I haven't anything. Yeah, I was just making

630
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: sure I had him. I had him on some teams

631
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: last week he was a zero point three eight percent

632
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: and I was very disappointed in his zero. So yeah,

633
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: I saw he didn't didn't get a target. So I

634
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: fear I do some annual stuff, but to make sure.

635
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: That's like one of the things I do, Like when

636
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: I like am up all night doing rankings, is like

637
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: going in and finding those guys that like, yeah, out

638
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: but didn't get tired, because like that messes.

639
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: Up, like if you don't like messes.

640
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: Up, right, Yeah, because yeah, No, I knew that. I

641
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: was just wondering what it was. I was watching the game.

642
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I saw him running the route I saw. No, I knew,

643
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I knew the data was wrong. I was just curious

644
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: what it was. It was sixty eight.

645
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: Or sixty nine, I believe, let me let me, yeah,

646
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: sixty it was eighty nine two weeks ago, and then

647
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: eighty nine to sixty nine. So yeah, he's a run

648
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: He's run over seventy routes these past couple of weeks

649
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: and has like one target. But that And that's interesting

650
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: though because it it actually you know, kind of props

651
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: like me, like guys like Russell Gage and who we

652
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: see Julio get like the monster target game.

653
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: So anytime there's a guy that's like running.

654
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Routes and not getting targeted windsprings, that's what those are,

655
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 2: winnspring right right.

656
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: But but that like that, that increases the upside of

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: the other guys on the team. So that's something to

658
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: watch for, like Hooper Gauge. But I think it's the

659
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: time to just bet on Blake because he's he's still

660
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: at man price.

661
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a week. I was a week too early,

662
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be back on this week. I just

663
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: don't see them giving Julio fifteen playing targets again in

664
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: a meaningless game. So I agree there.

665
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't think maybe maybe he's up to he's up

666
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: to thirty sixteen, so they need eighty four yards for

667
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: his fourth straight, fifth straight, sixth straight, sixth straight fourteen

668
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: hundred yard season. He would he would only eighty four

669
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: yards though, so he.

670
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can get that in the first quarter, and

671
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I think it starts going to Blake, please, But the

672
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: other guy I'm high on, so I do agree with

673
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: the Blake call. Like I said, I was a week

674
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: too early on. But the other guy like is Christian Kirk.

675
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: He played through an ankle injury last week, but he

676
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: did look good. He ran her out on every single dropback,

677
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: so he was playing despite the zero catches, So I

678
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: think he'll have a bounce back this week against the Rams.

679
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: He's super cheap. Forty seven hundred, should be very low owned,

680
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: and you know, quite possibly could be Larry Fitzgerald's last

681
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: game ever, so interesting narrative play there. But this is

682
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: all assuming that Kyler Murray does indeed play this week.

683
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: If if he doesn't play, I'm not I'm not investing

684
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: in this passing attack at all with Brett Henley. But yeah,

685
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk at forty seven hundreds a guy IM eyeing

686
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: on early in the way.

687
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: Ramsey's out right like he got hurt in the last game.

688
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: We have official word that he's out.

689
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't think we have official word, but I think, yeah,

690
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I think he has hurt. Obviously, no reason to send

691
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: him out there there. They could have, you know, some

692
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: nasty chemistry anyway, After all the blame blaming on the

693
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: last play. So I think the Rams defense might be

694
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: in sort of give up mode. So I do like

695
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals passing attack. I think that game could be

696
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: a shootout you guys mentioned earlier. But yeah, golf, and

697
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: you know McVeigh, this is probably going to be an

698
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: f you game just drop you know, forty plus points

699
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: this week? Why not? So I think this will be

700
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: a high scoring game, all right.

701
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: One guy I'm relatively high on is DeVante Parker and

702
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: you guys, you guys are both relatively low on him late. Yeah,

703
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: I get it. I'm buying as the stock is going down.

704
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 2: It's a brilliant strategy all these weeks.

705
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: I can't rank that this.

706
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Player prop just got ten times better.

707
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. Now I basically have to

708
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: bet the over. But yeah, I mean it's okay. I

709
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: think he's going to see a lot of Stephan Gilmore.

710
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: But you know, as we saw, Gilmour isn't he isn't perfect.

711
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Like he did get smoked, you know, literally by John

712
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: Brown last week for a long touchdown. Now greted. That

713
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: was the first touchdown he's allowed the entire season, and

714
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: it was John Brown's only catch of the game. But

715
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: Ante Parker is like he's getting so much volume that

716
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I still think, like and Ryan Fitzpatrick like he don't care,

717
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he's just going to throw,

718
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: and he's going to throw to the best guy he has,

719
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: and if he throws interceptions, he doesn't care because he's

720
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: just going to keep throwing more on the next drive.

721
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: So even though a normal quarterback would be, you know,

722
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: like very desirous to throw to anyone other than the

723
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: guy being defended by Stefan Gilmore, I could see Fitzpatrick

724
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: just being like, you know what, I don't care and

725
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: almost like willfully going at Stephan Gilmore with with the

726
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: best wide receiver, clearly the best wide receiver on the team.

727
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: So you know, like I could see a game in

728
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: which Parker has like twenty scoreless yards, but I could

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: also see a game in which he has like one

730
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: hundred yards in a touchdown. So that's I don't know,

731
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: Like I think putting him eighteen is my sort of

732
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: middle ground between that early in the week, knowing that

733
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm probably going to adjust him a little bit, but

734
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's just something about the matchup that,

735
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: like for a normal situation would scare me much more

736
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: than it does for Week seventeen with Ryan fitz Patrick.

737
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like that rationale. And people have to remember,

738
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, Fitzpatrick throws an interception to Gilmour, it's minus

739
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: two points for Fitzpatrick, not Parker. So right, Parker will

740
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: only see you know, positive points for you know, like

741
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: you said, I could see fitz just tempting Fayton, just

742
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: attacking Gilmore, trying to get to Parker. So I do

743
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: like that call, even though I'm fading him. You did

744
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: give me reasons.

745
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: To, you know, have some shares because obviously saying that

746
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: just as the long con for setting up the prop

747
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: that you give us a little bit.

748
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: Look, I'm trying to get the prop right. I don't

749
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: care about long cons. I'm trying to get his projection

750
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: right because it's it's a tough tough situation this week

751
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: for sure.

752
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: All Right, So Sean, you are relative low on Parker, Raybond,

753
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: give us your Parker take.

754
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: Stefan Gilmore is good, Bill Belichick's good. He had a

755
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: ton of good matchups. Now he doesn't. Uh so we're

756
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: facing him this week, Like, why why are we.

757
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: Getting on the Parkers?

758
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: The toughest matchup known demand, Like why like every other

759
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: week he had good match ups except except the Bills matchup,

760
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: which he still roasted. So I'll give you that that's

761
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: the one thing he did. He did go off on

762
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: the Bills and they have Tredavious White, but still, like

763
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: this is another step up. So I'm willing to bet

764
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: that it's it's it's a moble expectation.

765
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Could you see them almost like triple teaming Parker. I mean,

766
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: they have to worry about Gosecki obviously, but I mean

767
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: they're probably okay with Albert Wilson getting four yard dump offs, right, I.

768
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: Mean yeah, Like so I think the thing about like

769
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: that that John Brown touchdown on Gilmore was it's kind

770
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: of the same reason Gilmore doesn't cover Tyreek Hill when

771
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: they match up anymore. But he's just the one thing

772
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: that could kind of be in of those stupid fast

773
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: guys because he's he's a little bit, you know, bigger guy.

774
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: But I think Parker is right in his wheelhouse of

775
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 4: guys that he could shut down.

776
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think.

777
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 4: Wilson's probably a good call if you're looking for a

778
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: guy that would like get uh see an uptick like

779
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: kind of like the Cole Beasley game last week.

780
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: I think it would be.

781
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I can buy that. I respect it. Like

782
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: when Parker has a horribly disappointing game, I'm not going

783
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: to be surprised.

784
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, he told me on the radio, Freeman, what

785
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: about the last four years?

786
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: Five years?

787
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: That was you, that was your words.

788
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: That was a while ago. The guy I'm relatively low on.

789
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it almost doesn't need explanation.

790
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: T Y Hilton. You know, he's been plagued by injuries

791
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: all year. He has nothing to play for. H I

792
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: think he's going to have a relatively run heavy game script.

793
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: It's not as if this is nearly as daunting as

794
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: it used to be, but he still is going to

795
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: see Ike shadow coverage from a day boy A. So

796
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: just I think a situation to avoid with him in general,

797
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: and then you know, just kind of throw away here.

798
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: DJ Moore, I'm kind of skeptical that he's even going

799
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: to play. And he's in the compuction protocol. So that's

800
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: where I am, sean, give us, give us this Parker prop.

801
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter right through, it's going to be twenty

802
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: or one hundred and fifty. So fifty eight fifty eight

803
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: and a half. I bet, I bet you that's the

804
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: prop that's set. Like, okay, I think sportsbooks will offer

805
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: something similar to that.

806
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: So you said fifty eight fifty eight and a half,

807
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: I go under. Okay, I will go over. But my

808
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: line right now is sixty three. So I don't I

809
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm drastically higher than than you are

810
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: on this.

811
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, I have him ranked twenty eighth and you

812
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: have him eighteenth.

813
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have him twenty six. So yeah, like

814
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm right there with you. Like I think

815
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: if he like, his average yards would be right around.

816
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: Sixty three, but his medium would be a little lower.

817
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: Right, I think that's fair. Yeah, all right, let's close

818
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: this out by talking about tight ends, everyone's favorite topic.

819
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: Week seventeen tight ends. The top guy in our rankings

820
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: is George Kittle playing at Seattle. Of course, that is

821
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night football, so off of the main slate,

822
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey at home going against the Charger to remember

823
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: now have Derwin James as their tight end defender, and

824
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: then Tyler Higbee breaking into the top three with his

825
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: fourth straight one hundred yard game. Pretty incredible, Sean, who

826
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: are you relatively high on?

827
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm high on Higbee And I did a Twitter thread

828
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: of the Vince McMahon reaction gifts sort of the process

829
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: of going through making his initial week seventeen production. This week,

830
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, four straight hunter our game.

831
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Nice though that though that's a stat everybody knows. Looking

832
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: underneath the surface, he still ran around on sixty sixty

833
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: seven percent of GOSP drawbacks. That was with Gerald Everett returning,

834
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: which I was a bit worried about, not gonna lie.

835
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: I ended up hammering Higby's under receiving yards. I think

836
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: it was like forty nine and a half. I regretted

837
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: it immediately. The very first drive, I knew he was

838
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: going way over Jerald Leick. Immediately regret this. Jerald Leverett's

839
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: played six percent of the snap, so obviously you know

840
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: they're all in on Higby right now. And then I

841
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: saw his matchup. He's playing the Cardinals this week, So

842
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: I fell out on my chair when I saw that.

843
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: So I'm have all to Higbee and he's only fifty

844
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: six hundred. I think he's like the third or fourth

845
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: most expensive tight end, and that's you know, I think

846
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: who's not on the slate. It's just Kittle and Hollister,

847
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: so pretty good tight ends on the slate, So he's

848
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: too cheap. I'm all on a Higbee. I can't wait

849
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: to do the player prop later because I really don't

850
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: know if I could set the line high enough firm

851
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals matchup against tight ends as well.

852
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like Higbee mighty cow, and he's the

853
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: guy I'm relatively high on now too, and honestly like

854
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: I might bump him up to number two like on

855
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: the week, you know, just kind of depending on what

856
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: happens with Ertz and then also, I mean Kelsey has

857
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: has a tough matchup. Kelsey is matted up proof, but

858
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: I mean Berwin James is not like a guy to

859
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: be messed with exactly tied end defender. So I don't know,

860
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm relatively high on Haybee. I'm there with you, and

861
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: like he might like he could account for like forty

862
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: of the fantasy points that Jared Goff gets this week,

863
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: like it could be an unreal number. So yeah, I'm

864
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: there with you, Raymond, who do you like.

865
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: Besides Higbee Hunter Henry. I think he's kind of getting

866
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: a little forgotten here. I know he's had some Doug games,

867
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: but he's down a forty five hundred going against the

868
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: Chiefs who have been kind of a defense that funnels

869
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: the ball inside. So I like Hunter Henry in this

870
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: matchup Dallas gott her another one. Now, it would obviously

871
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: be better if Ertz were not to give it a go,

872
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: but I think even if he does, Goddard has been

873
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 4: these last ten or so games, He's been up around

874
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen percent of the targets still don't It still

875
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: doesn't look like Agalar is going to come back, and

876
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: even if he does, I don't know if he'll be

877
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: fully healthy. So there's there's still a ton of targets

878
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 4: here to go around, just you know, just just by default.

879
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: In this Eagle offense, they're in a muscling game. They

880
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: need to win the division. So I like Goddard is

881
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: kind of a guy in a mid range that people

882
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: might not be given quite as much consideration given some

883
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: of the flashier names above him below.

884
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Him, Sean hed, he dislike.

885
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Well, the Mark Andrews fade didn't really work out too

886
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: well for me last week, So I'm gonna have to

887
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: stick with it. He's sixty five hundred, so he's one

888
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: k more expensive than Tyler Higbee. They have nothing to

889
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: play for it. Last week's game, Ingram got hurt and

890
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: then like the very next play, Lamar Jackson got hurt.

891
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: He was lumping around, and then Mark Andrews was lumping around.

892
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: So I could see if if Andrews does play this week,

893
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I can't anticipate him playing the full game, especially you

894
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean on this game where they're benching

895
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: Lamar so at sixty five hundred, I mean if they

896
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: were at a tight if there were a tight end

897
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: that could hit value at that in twenty percent of

898
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: the snap. Since Mark Andrews, but I'm going to go

899
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: against him again this week. I'm projecting him like I

900
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: think like tight end ten or twelve initially, so the

901
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: second most expensive tight end. No, thank you all pass

902
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: and hopefully I don't get burned for the second straight

903
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: we can row by him.

904
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rabon is too.

905
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I honestly for Baltimore, I kind of just

906
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: split up their usage equally. At this point. I don't

907
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: think he's even going to play like his normal expectation

908
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: of snaps and I don't think he would have that

909
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: same upside with RG three, like to just score, you know,

910
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 4: two touchdowns on three targets.

911
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: I can those people chasing some points though, and he'll

912
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: be over owned no matter what.

913
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Raymond, who do you dislike?

914
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: Uh? Uh? So Kyle Rudolph, He's just been a complete

915
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 4: non factor without Adam Tee, with Adam Deemen in the lineup,

916
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: and that's even with Steen not being as productive. But

917
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: IRV Smith has been running more routes than than Rudolph.

918
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: So Rudolph had kind of the.

919
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: Streak going a few weeks ago where he was scoring

920
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 4: touchdowns almost every game. But you know, obviously, as most

921
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: guys who are dependent on touchdowns do when they kind

922
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: of when those dry up, there's nothing really there.

923
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: So Rudolph is the guy that.

924
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: I am lowan, all right, And the guy i'm loan

925
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: is Jack Doyle kind of his similar perspective on him

926
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: as the one that you have on Kyle Rudolph. Just

927
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: a guy who is not really involved in what they're

928
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: doing in the offense. Not many targets. And with this game,

929
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: even though it's a great matchup, the Jags are thirty

930
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: first in pass defense Dvoa against tight ends, So you know,

931
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: like you look at that and it looks like a

932
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: good situation for him, but I just you know, end

933
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: of season, there's no need to play him, and I

934
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: expect a run heavy game script for the Colts. So

935
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: a ful fade for me on Dak Doyle Sean give

936
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: us the much anticipated Tyler hateb prop.

937
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: So I have the line set at sixty nine and

938
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: a half receiving yards.

939
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take the under. Good luck with that,

940
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

941
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that line is definitely like Kittle Kelsey range for sure,

942
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: but I think he's earned it by.

943
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: Now I have him.

944
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: I am at sixty seven.

945
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about taking as under, but I

946
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: hope for a sixty seven with three touchdowns, So there

947
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: you go.

948
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, the I don't know, I mean,

949
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: like the the value seeking, like regression focused part of

950
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: me is like no, I will never I will never

951
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: like give that number for a guy who's been on

952
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: a run for just four weeks, you know what I mean, Like, like,

953
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: a man's got to have his principles, And this is

954
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: where I draw my line.

955
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I bet sportsbooks offer sixty three and a half sixty

956
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: four and a half. I bet they'll go that high,

957
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's high enough.

958
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's fair. I mean, he's he seems like

959
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: a guy who's taking over. It's just I don't know,

960
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: it still seems it still it feels high more than

961
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: like the calculation of like it is high. You guys

962
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: are in friends and family leagues, and I've always felt that, like,

963
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: no championship game should ever go into Week seventeen, but

964
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: you never like want to waste a week of the

965
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: NFL season. Have you guys been in a league that

966
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: does anything smart with Week seventeen?

967
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: Nah? That personally, like.

968
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: Week seventeen for me is just usually kind of like

969
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: a DFS, you know, try to see, you know, because

970
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: there's always kind of edges you can have just by

971
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: kind of understanding the motivations and what teams will play

972
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: their guys for, you know, the full amount of snaps

973
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: or having scentive and things like that.

974
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I haven't. I would totally love to be

975
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: in a league like that, but I haven't. How about you, guys, No,

976
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: I have not.

977
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: But one of our listeners reach out to me on Twitter,

978
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: the Matt Ward at not the fake MPBW had a

979
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: great idea of So for Week seventeen, they're using my

980
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: low ball idea. They're having a draft, so any player

981
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: that gets a zero this week gets twenty points and

982
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: low score wins. So they're doing that for next year's

983
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: draft order, which I think is a really cool way

984
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: to use Week seventeen. Like you said, you know, it's

985
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: a week of football, why waste it? So they're doing

986
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: the low ball format I came up with for draft

987
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: order next year, right, I think is really cool idea.

988
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I you know, for any listeners who

989
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: are in leagues that do kind of cool things with

990
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Week seventeen, hit me up on Twitter. I would I

991
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: would love to hear what that is, because I you know,

992
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: I think there's the opportunity for you know, an interesting format,

993
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: something that kind of builds on the season, you know,

994
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: doesn't replace the championship week, but kind of celebrates the

995
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: season that was and can sort of launch you into

996
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: the next season. So yeah, hit me up on Twitter

997
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: with any Week seventeen information that you have pretending to

998
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: contest format. Okay, guys, that's that's the regular season, of

999
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: course we are I'm assuming going to continue to do

1000
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: the show into the postseason because there are slates to

1001
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: be played in one great season, strong season. Happy holidays

1002
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Speaker 2: to everyone that's going to do it. For this episode

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Speaker 2: of the Action Network podcast. You can follow Sean, Chris

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Speaker 2: and Me and the Action Network app at the Underscore.

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Speaker 2: Odds maker Chris Raymond and Matt f Oracle use the

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Speaker 2: for free. Check out the rest of our episodes and

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