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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hut.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's not Giants, dunt come get out my giants.

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Speaker 3: Give me some jump.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast network.

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Speaker 4: Let's roll all right. Now we're joined by Giants offensive

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Speaker 4: lineman Justin Pugh. Justin Man, it's good to see you back, dude.

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Speaker 2: It is good to be back.

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Speaker 4: And now you're back permanently, right, So why don't we

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Speaker 4: work backwards a little bit. Take us through the decision

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Speaker 4: to sign with the Giants long term off the practice

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Speaker 4: squad onto the fifty three this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, the whole goal was to come and try out,

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Speaker 2: prove my knees healthy to myself first and to the

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Speaker 2: team second. There was no risk there. Just signed to

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Speaker 2: the practice squad, went out there in the first you know,

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Speaker 2: ten days, was able to prove an he was healthy.

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Speaker 2: Ended up starting on Sunday Night Football, and right off

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Speaker 2: the couch, as we all heard, straight off the couch

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Speaker 2: for sure. I mean it really was the weekend before

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Speaker 2: I was I was watching Sunday Night Football on the couch,

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Speaker 2: and then the next weekend I'm playing in Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it was a dream come true. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: went out there and then you know, playing left guard,

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Speaker 2: you know, had some had some plays I wish I

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Speaker 2: I was sore this week. And then as soon as

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Speaker 2: we got back, you know, I told the Giants and

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be on the practice squad anymore.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get elevated. We were able to get

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Speaker 2: a deal done and now I'm here for the year.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't be more excited about that.

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Speaker 4: And this was the only place you wanted to be, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had you know, teams had reached

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Speaker 2: you know, there was a situation where coming back home

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Speaker 4: You told a great Seinfeld story. I wanted to just

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Speaker 4: share that for the people that maybe didn't hear that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that really the genesis of me coming back

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Speaker 4: And I walked up with offensive linemen, yea.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with Giants Free Agency? And I hear

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Speaker 2: this voice. I look over. It's Jerry Seinfeld and he's

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Speaker 2: get me back to New York. So it's all Jerry

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Speaker 2: Seinfeld's fault. If Jerry Seinfeld I'd never never been there

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't the most quintessential New York moment, I

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Speaker 4: Now, now you came and I though you don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having fun. I'm taking it one game at

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Speaker 2: just focusing on this season. I signed a one year

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Speaker 4: See you time to right. If the baby comes after

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Speaker 4: You timed that up very nicely. Actually, that's well done

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's talk about getting ready. You got here,

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Speaker 4: three weeks to acclimate, learned the playbook and everything. Ten

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously with the ACL the physical became

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Speaker 2: Then you go out there and you start learning the playbook,

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Speaker 2: tough component to anything when you're coming off the streets.

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Speaker 2: It's learning a new language. Sure, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: get it figured out. But all the plays are very

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Speaker 2: It's just learning the vernacular of the Giants offense. So

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Speaker 2: being able to do that was great, and then signing

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Speaker 2: even more stressful. Silent cadence is something that I haven't

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the ecosystem and the business of sports

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Speaker 4: And now you talk about changing positions right as of

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Speaker 2: Here, I'm just learning all the plays and wherever I go.

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Speaker 2: It's it's probably better that I learned it from a

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Speaker 2: We have a great group of guys. They've been super helpful,

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Speaker 2: just little things. It's it allows you to speed up

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Speaker 4: How is it learning kind of the stuff you could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's two guys working together. They

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Speaker 4: And there's different guys you're working with right depending on

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Speaker 2: Constantly talking over communicating is the key and getting a

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Speaker 4: What has it been like coming off this first game?

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Speaker 4: How sore were you? How's the leg and how's everything else?

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Speaker 2: Knee? The knee has been no issue whatsoever. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Playing eighty plays, and you know, I'm going against a

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Speaker 4: E You only had one padded practice right before the game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I had about crazy twenty year practice. I had

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Speaker 4: Now you're playing weights down? Yes, you're what around like

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Speaker 4: two ninety give or take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere between two ninety two ninety five.

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Speaker 4: Is this what you played at in your year before

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Speaker 4: the injury or are you lower than you were before?

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Speaker 2: I am heavier than I played in Arizona. I played

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Speaker 4: You really? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I played somewhere around to eighty to eighty five and

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Speaker 4: sure if I talk to Justin Pugh Rookie that you're

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the opponent real quick before you say goodbye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chase Young obviously very very high draft pick. There's

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Speaker 4: Final question, where's this offense at these You guys didn't

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Speaker 2: It's all about finishing in the red zone. And for

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Speaker 4: And knowing you offensive lineman, I'm sure not converting those

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Speaker 2: Right, one hundred percent. It allows us to get another

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Speaker 2: We have to do that on Sunday. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 4: And you guys take pride in those short yards deals.

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Speaker 2: Too, right, one hundred percent. It's all on us, good.

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Speaker 2: Mom, apreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I got to talk to you, dude.

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Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 5: so go to that retreat. New you move to the country.

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Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 6: Following a two game road trip, the Giants return home

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Speaker 6: Fan in DC also serves as a Commander's Insider for

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Speaker 6: NBC four Sports in Washington, none other than JP Finley. JP,

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Speaker 6: you got Lance Meadow here on Giants dot Com. Greatly

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Speaker 6: appreciate the time today, HOPEOL as well as everything on

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Speaker 7: Things are going well, Lands. Thank you for having me man.

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Speaker 8: And you know it's another edition of they've had multiple names.

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Speaker 8: But whenever Washington and New York playing football, you never

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Speaker 7: More often than not, something weird happens.

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Speaker 6: Well, especially if you go back to the two affairs

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Speaker 6: But I'm sure this is going to provide quite the

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Speaker 6: this year, and clearly the biggest storyline JP is the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of really encouraging signs

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Speaker 7: Really.

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Speaker 7: He actually ASKDB that today Thursday.

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Speaker 7: I do think play calling has been an issue at times.

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Speaker 3: They're a very creative offense.

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Speaker 8: at quarterback and not Howl. Though you know, Mahomes you're

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Speaker 8: never out of anything, third and sixteen, whatever, But Owl's

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Speaker 8: not there yet. And sometimes I think maybe better served

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Speaker 8: to be a little more ballanced. But I don't think

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Speaker 8: Eric cares what people think, so I think he's gonna

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Speaker 8: keep running things how he sees fit. You definitely see

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Speaker 8: a more motion with purpose. You know, some motion is

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Speaker 8: just to allow the quarterback to identify what where the

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Speaker 8: safeties are if they're in man ors. Own, whereas Eb's

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Speaker 8: motion it tends to be to move a player to

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Speaker 8: another spot and they're gonna be at that spot when

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Speaker 8: the ball is snapped, like it's changing the formation. They

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Speaker 8: definitely run a lot of interesting stuff at the goal line.

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Speaker 8: In the last couple of weeks, they had a jet

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Speaker 8: SUITEP They lined up five wide and then had a

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Speaker 8: jets to be touchdown to Curtis Samuel, which was pretty cool.

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Speaker 8: They had a cool little flare out to Antonio Gibson

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Speaker 8: for a touchdown last week in Atlanta. It's been It's

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Speaker 8: definitely different than it was with Scott. But another difference

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Speaker 8: for Washington is Ron Rivera wants to run a real

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Speaker 8: ball control, relatively conservative offensive game plan, to play complimentary

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Speaker 8: football and keep his defense fresh, just kind of a

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Speaker 8: more old school approach. And I think Ron kind of

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Speaker 8: pushed that on Scott Turner, Whereas you know, for aeron Vietnamy,

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Speaker 8: he's coming in to run his offense and he's not

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Speaker 8: going to be pushed towards anything.

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Speaker 7: And I think Ron understands that and that's what he wanted.

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Speaker 8: And Ron talked about needing to shake up his offensive

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Speaker 8: staff this.

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Speaker 7: Offseason, and they did it.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I wouldn't be expecting that, but part

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Speaker 8: of me wonders, with a young QB, that's not the

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Speaker 8: best way to win games. But we'll see as things

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Speaker 8: continue to develop.

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Speaker 6: You were laying out all the personnel that they've been utilizing.

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Speaker 6: From a statistical standpoint, five different players have at least

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Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty receiving yards and six different players have.

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Speaker 3: Caught at least one touchdown.

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Speaker 6: So that indicates to me JP well, Sam Howell is

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Speaker 6: spreading the wealth and he's not necessarily playing a favorite.

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Speaker 6: Even though it looked like Terry McLaurin early on in

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Speaker 6: the Falcons game became a heavy target. How much are

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Speaker 6: they truly tapping into the depths of the offensive personnel

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Speaker 6: and how much stress do you think that's putting on

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Speaker 6: opposing defenses?

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 8: They really are spreading it around, and you know, we

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Speaker 8: kind of live in this like fantasy football player prop

485
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Speaker 8: culture where people are all about targets, and Sam eb

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Speaker 8: and Ron have been like, we're not about that. We

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Speaker 8: want the offense to flow. Whoever's open gets the ball.

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Speaker 8: Like one week, I think it was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 8: Logan Thomas was a huge part of the offense last week.

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Speaker 8: I think he had two yards right. There's a lot

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Speaker 8: of variety. They also have a lot of good skill

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Speaker 8: possession guys. They I mean the three wide outs, I'd

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Speaker 8: go Terry Johann, Samuel Logan at tight end, Robinson and Gibson,

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Speaker 8: and proven capable pass catchers that can make a guy miss.

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Speaker 8: So they've got a lot of options and it is

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Speaker 8: obvious that the enemy wants them to spread it around.

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Speaker 8: I think you can make the argument that Terry should

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Speaker 8: see the ball more. And what I think is effective

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Speaker 8: is when Terry sees the ball early and maybe you

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Speaker 8: don't have to force feed him the rest of the day.

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Speaker 7: But if you show defense as.

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Speaker 8: The real threat of McLaurin early in the last two wins,

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Speaker 8: that's happened against Denver and against Atlanta. They also did

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Speaker 8: it well in Philly, the game they lost but went

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Speaker 8: to overtime. So I think get McLaurin involved early. Samuel

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Speaker 8: has been really could dude. When he hits the ball

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Speaker 8: in his hands, he's a dangerous player, and I think

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Speaker 8: that has kind of been a surprise. My self included

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Speaker 8: a lot of us thought Jahan would have kind of

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Speaker 8: a big breakout year hasn't really happened so far, and

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Speaker 8: Curtis has kind of been picking up at that production.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Samuel is a very shifty guy from previous years

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Speaker 6: when they brought him over from Carolina and he had

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Speaker 6: a history with Scott Turner, so I would agree with you.

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Speaker 6: I think that they certainly have tapped into his skill set,

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Speaker 6: and they've also tapped into it, seems Ryan Robinson is

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Speaker 6: a receiver. And this is where I'm curious JP your thoughts,

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Speaker 6: because you mentioned Antonio Gibson and Brian Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Those are their two running backs.

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Speaker 6: But Robinson he's been doing I would say, as much

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Speaker 6: damage out of the backfield as a receiver than maybe

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Speaker 6: the conventional way on the ground. So how much have

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Speaker 6: they tried to utilize the running backs a little bit

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Speaker 6: more maybe in the receiving game. And this is something

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Speaker 6: that obviously the Giants defense has to account for.

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Speaker 8: Definitely, they like to throw the backs, throw to the

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Speaker 8: backs early often. B rob has been I think, way

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Speaker 8: more effective than most folks were expecting.

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Speaker 7: We saw a heavy dose of it in training camp.

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Speaker 8: So I'm not necessarily surprised how good his hands have

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Speaker 8: been that. I also think they got to throw to

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Speaker 8: the backs because they're not running the ball very well.

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Speaker 8: They either they get away from it or when they

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Speaker 8: stick with it, it's not very effective.

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Speaker 7: So you still got to try to include those guys

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Speaker 7: because they're.

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Speaker 8: Playmakers, but certainly they've been growing to the backs. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he was thinking about Andy Reid, go back to his

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Speaker 8: day's coaching the Eagles, like he has always been a

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Speaker 8: guy that wants to kind of get the balls ball

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Speaker 8: in the hands of his playmakers, even if that means

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Speaker 8: just I mean, I remember, and I'm sure this happened

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Speaker 8: to the Giants too, like Brian Westbrook with the Eagles

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Speaker 8: whatever fifteen seventeen years ago, just torching the then Redskins.

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Speaker 8: So you know, the eb's a disciple of that, and

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Speaker 8: it's been interesting to watch.

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Speaker 6: We're talking with JP Finley, you can hear him on

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Speaker 6: one of those six point seven the fan in DC

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Speaker 6: Commanders Insider her NBC four Sports in Washington as we're

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Speaker 6: previewing the Giants and the Commanders this Sunday at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 6: So let's flip the script and move over to the

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Speaker 6: Commander's defense. You look at their front four that's been

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Speaker 6: the talk of the town over the last several years. Therefore,

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Speaker 6: former first round picks and Chase Young seems to be

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Speaker 6: finally healthy JP.

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Speaker 3: So that has been a positive for them.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's just me, but the one guy that doesn't

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Speaker 6: seem to be jumping off the page is Doron Pain.

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Speaker 6: Maybe from a statistical standpoint, and as you well know,

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Speaker 6: numbers don't tell the whole story, he's a very good

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Speaker 6: run stopper.

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Speaker 3: Is their validity behind that.

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Speaker 6: That he's just being hidden by what Jonathan Allen and

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Speaker 6: Montes Sweat are doing, or do you think Doron Pain

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Speaker 6: is doing some damage, he's just not getting necessarily enough

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Speaker 6: credit for that.

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Speaker 7: A little bit of both.

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Speaker 8: I think Payne is a beast inside, especially with this

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Speaker 8: banged up Giants O line. I'm curious what this looks

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Speaker 8: like on Sunday. But Paint has been good, not great.

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Speaker 8: Last year he was great, and all those guys really

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Speaker 8: have shown flashes, but it.

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Speaker 7: Hasn't been as consistent as.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe we've seen that they started the season rough.

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Speaker 8: They gave up thirty points at least thirty in four

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Speaker 8: straight games. They kind of got it on track against Atlanta,

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Speaker 8: But from a yardage standpoint, the Falcons moved the ball

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Speaker 8: pretty well. They just had a ton of turnovers. I

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Speaker 8: wonder if John Allen was on the injury report this

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Speaker 8: week with a little bit of a knee issue. John

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Speaker 8: had a little bit of planner fascia fascia in the

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Speaker 8: trading camp. So, but Chases look good. I kind of

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Speaker 8: think Chase could have a big game in New York, honestly,

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Speaker 8: especially considering the old line situation.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's not a single starter expected to play right.

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Speaker 6: Well, they've only had five different starting offensive line combinations JP,

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Speaker 6: and I mean at this point, Evan Neil is probably

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Speaker 6: going to play, so he would be the one starter.

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Speaker 6: He's fighting through an ankle injury though to your point,

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Speaker 6: so he's not fully healthy. But I'd be very surprised

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Speaker 6: if he doesn't play based on this matchup. But yes,

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Speaker 6: outside of him, you're talking about a game of musical

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Speaker 6: chairs this season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So it.

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Speaker 6: Certainly is a favorable situation for Washington. And we saw

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Speaker 6: they just went up against the team with the number

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Speaker 6: one sacks of the NFL, the Buffalo Bills, and Buffalo

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Speaker 6: managed to get three sacks at a few quarterback hits.

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Speaker 6: Though I do think the offensive line held up and

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Speaker 6: Tyrod Taylor's movement out of the pocket helped overshadow some

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Speaker 6: of the struggles up front.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be something to watch whether or not.

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Speaker 6: They try to navigate the Washington defensive line.

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Speaker 3: One other guy, though.

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Speaker 6: That is not included in those four that we talked about,

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Speaker 6: who's been getting some production is Casey two Hill already

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Speaker 6: has three sacks. He had two against the Falcons. What

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Speaker 6: has he been able to provide and how much are

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Speaker 6: they looking to get better production out of some of

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Speaker 6: these complementary pass rushers.

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Speaker 8: You know, because Chase Young has missed so much time

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Speaker 8: over the last two seasons. There's two guys Casey two

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Speaker 8: Hill and James Smith Williams that have kind of emerged

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Speaker 8: as this like rotating other defensive end. And they're both

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Speaker 8: pretty good and due Hill has really good speed and athleticism,

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Speaker 8: and I think that showed against Atlanta.

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Speaker 7: And sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 8: Hurt to be on the other side of a guy

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Speaker 8: that's getting good pass rushers like Montes sweat and just

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Speaker 8: kind of cleaning it up. And I think two Hill

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Speaker 8: took a good advantage of that kind of as you

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Speaker 8: pointed out, all of the different receivers with one hundred

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Speaker 8: yards or more and touchdowns. I mean, they go pretty

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Speaker 8: far down the column in how many guys have registered

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Speaker 8: a sack at TfL QB pressure. It's you know, the

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Speaker 8: headliners are obviously Chase and Montes and John Allen whoever.

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Speaker 8: But the depth at the d line is pretty good.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this guy like John Bridgeway is pretty good.

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Speaker 8: He comes in and kind of their five man package.

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Speaker 7: They've got some horses on the d line, which.

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Speaker 6: Is a theme we've seen in the NFC East, whether

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Speaker 6: it be the Philadelphia Eagles of the Dallas Cowboys. So

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Speaker 6: it seems as if all of these teams are just

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Speaker 6: trying to replicate one another with respect to the defensive front,

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Speaker 6: and not necessarily a bad thing to do as far

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Speaker 6: as the back end is concerned. They made the investment

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Speaker 6: in Emmanuel Forbes in the first round this year, and

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you look at the snap count

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Speaker 6: last week JP and he gets no defensive snaps. And

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Speaker 6: you mentioned they've been giving up a lot of yardage

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Speaker 6: over four hundred yards in total offense to each of

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Speaker 6: their last three opponents.

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Speaker 3: What do you read into this? Forbes? Benching?

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Speaker 6: Was this something that they just wanted to experiment with

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Speaker 6: against Atlanta to send him a message, or is this

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Speaker 6: something that's going to happen moving forward and they're gonna

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Speaker 6: look at other options within that secondary.

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Speaker 7: It's a good question. So Forbes started the year rough.

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Speaker 8: He has speed, has ball skills, but there is I

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Speaker 8: don't want to I don't want to say an unwillingness,

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Speaker 8: but the tape has not been kind to him in

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Speaker 8: run support, and the kind of the thought was, you

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Speaker 8: know what, we can deal with that as long as

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Speaker 8: he's shutting guys down. And then in consecutive weeks he's

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Speaker 8: matched up against AJ Brown in Philly who torched him,

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Speaker 8: and then he's matched up against DJ Moore with the

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Speaker 8: Bears who torched him. I mean we're talking. I think

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Speaker 8: AJ Brown, I'm going on the top of my head.

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Speaker 8: I want to say he had seven one hundred and

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Speaker 8: seventy yards and two touchdowns, and I think DJ Moore

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Speaker 8: went for two point thirty and three touchdowns. I mean, now,

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Speaker 8: not all that's on one player. You got the whole secondary.

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Speaker 8: You know that that's part of this thing, but it's

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Speaker 8: gotten ugly and that's why he got benched. It's one

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Speaker 8: thing for a young corner to get beat in coverage,

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Speaker 8: that's gonna happen. But if you're getting beat bad and

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Speaker 8: you are basically a liability when the opposition's running the ball,

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Speaker 8: you got.

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Speaker 7: Big trouble and maybe they get him back on the field.

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Speaker 8: One thing to watch is Kendall Fuller missed practice this week,

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Speaker 8: had big old rap on his knee. Veteran corner has

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Speaker 8: been playing well for Washington for for years and certainly

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Speaker 8: to start this season, already has two picks on the year.

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Speaker 8: Fuller told us he's gonna play, that he's fine. This

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Speaker 8: is just how he manages it. I tend to believe him.

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Speaker 8: But you know, you got a guy at least nursing something,

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Speaker 8: and that meant that Meadowlands turf is known for what

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Speaker 8: it's known for. And I wouldn't be stunned if Forbes

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Speaker 8: gets out there just as some rest or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's an interesting thing situation with that secondary because they

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Speaker 8: have given up a ton of explosive plays. That is

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Speaker 8: almost kind of the one thing they didn't do last week.

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Speaker 8: They still gave up some big ones, but not like

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Speaker 8: the true backbreakers.

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Speaker 6: Well, and that's why this matchup is a bit fascinating

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Speaker 6: because the Giants have struggled to produce explosive plays on offense,

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Speaker 6: but could they take advantage of a secondary that, to

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Speaker 6: your point, has some questions, assuming, of course, if they

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Speaker 6: play in the trenches, can hold up and buy Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 6: assuming he plays some time. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what's going to be interesting in terms

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Speaker 6: of the pieces of the puzzle. Now, speaking of game

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Speaker 6: changing explosive plays, before I let you go, I want

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Speaker 6: to turn to special Teams JP and a familiar name

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Speaker 6: to Giants fans is Jamison Crowder. He's also familiar to

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Speaker 6: Washington fans because this is second stint, but he was

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Speaker 6: with the Giants this offseason. They elected to go in

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Speaker 6: a younger direction with Eric Gray in the return game,

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Speaker 6: and you look, he gets the sixty one yard punt

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Speaker 6: return last week, which was huge in terms of field positioning.

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Speaker 6: How much of a boost has he been since he

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Speaker 6: returned and how concerning is that for the Giants considering

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Speaker 6: the last thing they can afford to do is give

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Speaker 6: up field positioning at this point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been good.

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Speaker 8: I mean last last week he popped the big one,

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Speaker 8: which is obviously what you dream of.

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Speaker 7: But kind of throughout he's been pretty good. You know.

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Speaker 8: He had a strong return against the Eagles, he had

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Speaker 8: a good one in Denver, he had another one that

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Speaker 8: got called back. And he's explosive in the Plumber Turn game.

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Speaker 8: And I mean when you talk about X factors and

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Speaker 8: all that sort of stuff, he could absolutely be won

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Speaker 8: this week.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely well.

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Speaker 6: Just another facet to put onto the microscope as the

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Speaker 6: Giants and Commanders renew their rivalry Sunday, one pm Eastern

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Speaker 6: at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: He is JP Finley.

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Speaker 6: You can hear him weekdays on one oh six point

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Speaker 6: seven Defan in DC Commanders Insider for NBC four Sports

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Speaker 6: in Washington, KP.

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Speaker 3: It's always great catch up with you.

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Speaker 6: Greatly appreciate the time of the inside and I very

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Speaker 6: much look forward to talking down the road.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much, man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You got it my pleasure.

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Speaker 5: You love turf, You're good at it, So you start

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Speaker 5: a turf fiz. Business grows, your savings grow, become the

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Speaker 5: most celebrated name in turf.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 9: Giants are taking on Washington as they square off at

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Speaker 9: MetLife Stadium. We're joined as always by the head coach

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Speaker 9: of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable and coach,

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Speaker 9: you got a Washington team coming in here today, three

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Speaker 9: and three on the season, coming off with win last week.

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Speaker 9: This is a team that can get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: As you've watched Washington and prepared for this week, what

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Speaker 9: are some of the things that sort of jump off

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Speaker 9: the tape that make them a dangerous defense.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it all starts with their front four four first

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Speaker 10: rounders that played well together. They've played together for a while,

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Speaker 10: and you know that drives their defense. The coverage and

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Speaker 10: the front is tied together with the rush. They do

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Speaker 10: a good job.

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Speaker 9: Coach, Obviously, they have been susceptible giving up some big plays.

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Speaker 9: But you know it's you got to look at it,

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Speaker 9: you know objectively that it's not all the time. When

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Speaker 9: you see stuff like that, you got to kind of

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Speaker 9: stick with your game plan, don't you as far as

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Speaker 9: how you go about getting to those kind of explosives.

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Speaker 4: Don't you sure?

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Speaker 10: And you and you see, you know how the explosive

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Speaker 10: were made. You know against Chicago, this is it was

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Speaker 10: as tight as coverage as can be in about three plays,

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Speaker 10: So I could have easily went the other way. This

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Speaker 10: is a sound defensive football team that is playing well.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, you got Saquon Barkley back in the lineup last week.

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Speaker 9: He got over ninety yards rushing and is such a

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Speaker 9: key component to sort of creating more balance for your

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Speaker 9: football team. How did he come out of the game,

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Speaker 9: first and foremost? And what have you seen out of

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Speaker 9: this week that has you encouraged about even better production

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Speaker 9: and even a better Barkley.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think his ankles improven, normal nicks and bruises

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Speaker 10: after a game. You know, he hasn't played in a

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Speaker 10: little bit, and you know had a good week.

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Speaker 9: Let's go to the other side, Washington, they can have

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Speaker 9: explosive plays in their own you know, they got a

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Speaker 9: talented guy in Terry McLaurin. Sam Howell has done a

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Speaker 9: nice job at the quarterback position. Looks like he's a

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Speaker 9: guy that's willing to kind of hang in there and

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Speaker 9: take some chances. As you've studied him, what are some

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Speaker 9: of the things that have impressed you about the second

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Speaker 9: year quarterback.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, he's got really good footwork.

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Speaker 10: He does a great job of standing in the pocket

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Speaker 10: and giving his skilled players opportunities to make plays. He's accurate,

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Speaker 10: he's competitive. You know, they throw the ball a lot

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Speaker 10: with him, and I think he's improved, you know, every

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Speaker 10: game he's played. He's a good young quarterback.

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Speaker 9: And then just finally, their running game. It feels like

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Speaker 9: every week we ask you about a player that from Alabama.

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Speaker 9: Brian Robinson has accounted for five touchdowns this year, three running,

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Speaker 9: two receiving. Then they also got Gibson, who's a veteran guy.

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Speaker 9: Talk a little bit about their run scheme and what's

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Speaker 9: made it so effective to this point.

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Speaker 10: Well, Brian as a downhill runner. He's a big back

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Speaker 10: that is tough to tackle in space. He's not looking

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Speaker 10: to go down, he's not looking to go out of bounds.

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Speaker 10: He's looking for contact as a runner, whether it's in

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Speaker 10: the run game or the screen game. Gibson's a good

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Speaker 10: change back for him. But but Brian is a guy

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Speaker 10: that you know, we have to get eleven hats to

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Speaker 10: the ball with coach.

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Speaker 9: We appreciate a couple of minutes. As always, best of

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Speaker 9: luck against Washington.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, Pop, appreciate you