1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody into the Friday edition of 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. Thanks so much 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: for rolling with us. Lines are open, so if you 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: want to call in and chat with us, eight hundred 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: two eight two eight eight two phone number, and you had. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: President Biden addressed the country, addressed the world this morning 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: on the issue of Ukraine provoking Most Favored Nations status 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: with Russian We're gonna dive into all of the latest 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: on the Ukraine later on in this hour, I'm gonna 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: have a conversation with our friend Stephen Yates, former deputy 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: National Security advisor to Victor Dick Cheney, Vice President Cheney 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: under the Bush administration. We're gonna talk to him a 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: bit about this issue. And then later on third hour, 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: as we have promised you all along, part of our 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: mission here is we're not going to allow this pretend 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: that COVID mandates and lockdowns and mask policies didn't happen. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Thing that the Democrats seem to be trying right now. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: We're not just going to walk away from this. There's 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: still things happening. There's still data to crunch. There's still 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: numbers to look at, and we will certainly be doing 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: all of that with you in the third hour, with 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Alex Barrens and joining us and doctor Joseph Latipo, the 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: surgeon General for the State of Florida. So a lot 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: of COVID deep dive coming your way in the and 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: it's really mandate and lockdown deep dive coming your way 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: in the third hour, So get ready for that. We 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: have the end. It seems of a long running saga 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: though that Clay and I wanted to address with you 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: for a moment here the Jesse small At case has 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: finally come to a judicial conclusion. Jesse small ET's gonna 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: spend over one hundred days in prison. We are gonna 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: take a look at whether that's a fair sentence or not, 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: just momentarily. But here is what Remember this Jesse small At. 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: The guys yelled, this is Maga country, and they poured 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: bleach on him and put a noose around his neck. 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: And then he walked home with the new still on 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: because he was getting a sandwich on the streets of 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Chicago at two o'clock in the morning, in the middle 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: of winter. It was like thirty degrees outside and two 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: guys wearing Maga hats or yelling this is Maga country 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. He made it up so it doesn't even matter. Yeah, 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: and the Democrats, including Kamala Harris and Joe Biden themselves 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: freaked out about this national news story. Big deal. Here 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: is the judge saying, yeah, you're a liar and you're 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: going to prison. I'm fashioning the following sentence. And here's 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: your sentence, the sentence seeing you to thirty months stell 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: any probation, and the probation is going to be to disquarter. 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be allowed to travel wherever you want. You 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: do not have to live in the state of Illinois. 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: He can report by phone. I know that if you're 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: going to try to make a living and do some 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: of the things you do, you may have to go 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: to other places in New York and last you can 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: do those things. You will pay restitution to the City 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: Chicago the amount of one hundred twenty one hundred six dollars. 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: You are fined twenty five thousand dollars, which is the 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: maximum behind and you will spend the first one hundred 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and fifty days of your sentence in the Cook County jail, 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: and that will start today, right here, right now, Clay, 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: is this justice? No? I look, I am glad that 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: the judge put him in jail for at least one 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days five months whatever the map is there, 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: six months, depending on how exactly you classify it. But 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I wanted, if you remember we talked about this, I 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: wanted him to get years in prison, and that would 67 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: have been in a very aggressive sentence. But I believe 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: what he did, the way that he preyed upon American 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: media's obsession with race and victimization of race, and the 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: degree to which he created further division at a time 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: of great division in this country, the consequences should have 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: been more significant than they were. I do appreciate the 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: fact that he's going to have to go to Cook 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: County jail. I think leading him out effectively in handcuffs 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: was significant. And even hearing Jesse Smallett, he tried to 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: throw up. Did you see the black power fist as 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: he walked out. Listen to Jesse who immediately says, I'm 78 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: not suicidal. I'm not suicidal, which, by the way, sounds 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: super strange because it sounds like something someone would say 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: if they were not mentally stable, listen to this. I 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: am not suicidal. Okay, I am not suicidal. I am infant, 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: and I am not suicidal. If I did this didn't 83 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: mean that I subbed my fist in the fears of 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Black Americans in the suicion, but over four bunch of 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: years and the fears of the LGBTQ community your mine. 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: I respect you, and I respect the church. But I 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: did not do this, and I am not suicidal. And 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: if anything happens to me when I believe I did 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: not do it to myself and you must oh click. 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: And I just is it more offensive that he's claiming 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: to be a civil rights hero or that he's still 92 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: saying he didn't do it? I'm just well, like, which 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: one to you is more mind blowing? Well, both of 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: them are equal parts offensive. And if I were a 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: judge on some level, when he started to say I 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: didn't do it, I would say, well, you are still 97 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: not taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions. So 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: upon further reflection, I am going to double your sentence 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: and you are now going to spend a full year 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: in prison like I wish, because look, part of deciding 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: what the penalty is is analyzing whether there is in 102 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: any way some degree of acknowledgement of wrongdoing right, whether 103 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: there is a form of remorse, whether you are apologizing 104 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: for your actions and acknowledging them. And when Jesse Smalleett 105 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: is still saying I didn't do this, he is lying. 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: He is delusional. And the fact that he throws up 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the Black Power fit as he walks out as if 108 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: he is some sort of martyr makes me want to 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: put him in prison for longer. And look the other 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: thing I would say here, Buck, and I think this 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: is super significant. We hear all the time about how 112 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: big tech is trying to make sure that the truth 113 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: is out there. You know what's going on right now. 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris tweeted this, and I think it's important to 115 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: constantly because this ties in with what Jesse Smallett was doing. 116 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't crazy in the way that he diagnosed and 117 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: recognized that if he were the victim of a crime 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: like this, it would be the best thing that ever 119 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: happened to his career. And what I would tell everybody 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: out there is be skeptical whenever something you don't control 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: happens to you, and it's the greatest thing that could 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: ever happen to you. Right, the best thing that could 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: ever happen to Jesse Smallett's career was that he was 124 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: a victim of an attempted assault like this. Because it 125 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: makes him a victim, it makes him more well known. 126 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: And here's what Kamala Harris said, Buck, Jesse Smalett is 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know. 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm praying for his quick recovery. These are still up 129 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: these tweets, Buck, this is Kamala. This was an attempted 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for 131 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: their life because of their sexuality or the color of 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: their skin. We must confront this hate, no acknowledgement. Buck, 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: You and I are getting tagged all the time. Anytime 134 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: we say masks don't work, Twitter police immediately show up 135 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: and try to give greater characterization of that. That's still up. 136 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: There's no note on it about how it's not true. 137 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden tweeted what happened today to Jesse Smalette must 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up. 139 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: We must stand up and demand we no longer give 140 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: this hate safe harbor, that homophobia and racism have no 141 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: place on our streets or in our hearts. We are 142 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: with you, Jesse. These are still up. They're still up, 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and there's a reason for it. The price that you 144 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: have to be willing to pay for wokeness is looking 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: like a fool. That's actually part of the obedience that 146 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: is demanded of the woke. Perfect example, men can get pregnant. 147 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: You have to say that. You sound like a moron 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: when you say it, right, But if you're gonna be woke, 149 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: you gotta say men can get pregnant. And with Jessie, 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: it didn't matter to the people who said it that 151 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: it was all a lie. They were expected to say 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: it in the moment, and they did. The leftist hive 153 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: mind doesn't care about what's true. By the way, same 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: with masking and all these other things we talk about. 155 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: You are expected to be a part of the collective. 156 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: You're expected to say what you're supposed to say in 157 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: the moment, and no one therefore afterwards on the left 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: will fault you for it because yeah, that was It's 159 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: almost like Biden and common or under orders. There is 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: an identity politics narrative here there's an opportunity to bash 161 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: what was this really about Donald Trump? All the white nationalism? Yeah, 162 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: all the stuff that they had all the media been. Oh, 163 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: here's the perfect case study of Trump's white nationalism and 164 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: the destruction of the country it's created. The fact that 165 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: it was a lie doesn't matter at all. The only 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: problem from the perspective of Biden and Harris is that 167 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: it was so sloppy that anybody with an IQ above 168 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: that of a toaster not only knows now Clay, but 169 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: really knew pretty much right away. I mean, I understand 170 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you never want to be caught in that one outlier 171 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: of like, I guess this happened thing, But I mean, 172 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I go, I've gone back and looked at my record 173 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: on this one first week of the Jesse Smallette case. 174 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's lying. It was so obvious. I 175 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: know you saw it is lying too. And do any 176 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: of the blue checks who got it wrong feel embarrassed, No, 177 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: not at all. They did their part. Not only do 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: they not feel embarrassed, they're not even taking down clearly 179 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: an accurate tweet. But all these social media sites they 180 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: aim to care about misinformation and disinformation, they don't even 181 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: append an acknowledgement. Hey, by the way, this was a 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: total why Like I would be shamed into taking down 183 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the tweet if I believe I were Kamala or Joe Biden. 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: I also wouldn't anticipate that this is true the moment 185 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: you hear it again. I would just say this for everybody. 186 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Any time a story like this happens and you go 187 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: back and you're like, man, would being a victim of 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: a crime like this be the greatest thing that could 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: happen to anybody's career. If the answer is yes, then 190 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: we should be skeptical that happened. I'll give you an example. Buck, 191 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: if you came in and you were like, hey, I mean, well, 192 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: let's take up a bunch of soy latte drinkers who 193 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: have Chris Hayes t shirts on just happen to try 194 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: to try to, you know, slap fight me in front 195 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: of the radio studio. You know you would know, right. 196 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, take it outside of the 197 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: world of like race crimes and hoaxes and everything else. 198 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: If your buddy, who usually had trouble picking up girls, 199 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: if if he came to you and he said, hey, 200 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: you're never gonna believe what happened to me last night. 201 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: I was just out at our normal bar. It was 202 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, and uh, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow walked in 203 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: or whoever you want to be, you know, likes hot. 204 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: You know that your buddy may like, Okay, who's the 205 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: hottest girl you can think of? Right now? I don't 206 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: even know. It used to be there were maxim girls 207 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: or Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover girls. Now there's like a 208 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: billion of them on Instagram, and so I can't even 209 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: keep up with you know, like Pamela Anderson. If you're 210 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: around my age, people will be like, oh, Pamela Anderson, 211 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: incredibly attractive Denise Richards back in the day. Like I 212 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: feel like there are so many Instagram models now that 213 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: it's even hard to keep up with who the famous 214 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: ones are. So give me a give me a widely renowned, 215 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: incredibly good looking woman. Doesn't hard, right, Just just go 216 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: with the story. Yeah, so and he said, and this, 217 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: and she hooked up with me. She came over to me, 218 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: she was like, hey, let me buy a beer. Hey, 219 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: do you guys you want to go? Do you want 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: to hang out? Do you want to come back? To 221 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: my place. You would say, you know what, whatever your 222 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: buddy's name is, I don't think i'd buy this story. Right, 223 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's possible that supermodels show up at this random 224 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: bar that you, who usually have trouble picking up any girls, 225 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: suddenly get picked up by this girl who's super famous 226 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: and everybody wants to be with. And you guys went 227 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: back to her place, like you wouldn't believe it, right, 228 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: That would be the best thing that could ever happen 229 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: to that guy, whoever the girl is that he's in 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: love with. Why would you believe Jesse Smollett when for 231 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: his life, that's the best thing they could ever happen 232 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: to him, And so be skeptical. And you would be skeptical, 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: And I would be skeptical of your buddy who's trying 234 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: to tell you this story. And by the way, it 235 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: might happen one in a million times that something like 236 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: this could occur, and you would still never believe. But 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: I just throw out there to Clay on the skepticism 238 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: point here, Jose's small at from what he said his 239 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: imaginary attackers and as we know, it was actually the 240 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: two Nigerian brothers and it was all stage but the 241 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: imaginationship with sexually, which is even crazier the imaginary MAGA supporters. 242 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: He talked about, it's as though Jesse Smallett had never 243 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: met a Trump voter, because there is not a Trump 244 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: voter in the entirety of the United States of America. 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: Who on the streets of Chicago at two o'clock in 246 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: the morning or one o'clock in the morning would yale 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: this is Maga country. Well that was how about know 248 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: who Jesse Smallt is and know what his sexuality is? Like? 249 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: How many Donald Trump supporters watch Empire know who Jesse 250 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: small At is and then on top of that, know 251 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: what his sexuality is? Like I didn't even know who 252 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Jesse small At was. I don't watch Empire. I can't 253 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: that there's like four people who voted for Donald Trump 254 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: and even fit that like if you kept doing the 255 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: bid diagram. They were wandering around this streets of Chicago 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: news yea, allegedly just like trying to find it is 257 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: the coldest night of the year I think in Chicago, 258 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: just on the possible off chance that they were going 259 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: to run into Jesse Smollett. I mean, it's it's just 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: a few steps away folks from Jesse. Smollett said, little 261 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: green men came out of a spacecraft wearing Trump hats 262 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: and they attacked me. I mean, it's just completely nonsensical. 263 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: And the sitting president and sitting vice president and ninety 264 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: five percent of blue check news media were like, oh 265 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, this is an atrocity. By the way, I'm 266 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: really disappointed that I can't even come up with a 267 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: girl like. That's the world we live in now. Everybody's 268 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram back to my child, like my like you know, 269 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: teen crush was because she was my age on Seventh Heaven. 270 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: Remember that show, Jessica Biale. That was all Jessica Bill 271 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: was great, Yeah, Jessica Bill. Back in the day, Britney Spears, 272 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera, there were all these girls you could point to. 273 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know who the girl, Like, if you 274 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: were twenty four right now, who do you point to? 275 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure the answer. I mean, I'm too 276 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: busy reading history books, Clay I have. Yeah, wow, that's 277 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe a good sign. There are some strong voices in Washington, 278 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: DC saying smart things, but there aren't enough of them 279 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: expressing our thoughts and opinions. But amac is helping with that. 280 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: You know AMAC, it's the Association of Mature American Citizens. 281 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: AMAC has worked overtime and pushing back against the left. 282 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: It's clear to both of us that they're in the 283 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: fight and they're true believers so many of the same 284 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: conservative values we have. They share, believing and fight for. 285 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Our nation faces unprecedented challenges from election integrity and censorship 286 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: to vaccine passports, mass mandates, and border security. The liberal 287 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: response to adversity is always to strike down individual liberty 288 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: and implement more government. 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I am back down in 298 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: the Free State of Florida, and I wanted to spice 299 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: in Buck and Eye did a few of the different 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: stories that two years ago began to happen on March 301 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: the eleventh, which was the oh my goodness, everything is 302 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: falling apart with COVID. Almost simultaneously on March the eleventh, 303 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I feel like they'll do a documentary called March the eleventh, 304 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one day. And this is when it started 305 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: to really become an issue for a lot of people. 306 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Do you remember Oklahoma City was getting ready to play 307 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: against the Utah Jazz when Rudy Gobert tested positive for 308 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: COVID to become one of the first athletes to test positive, 309 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: And as the players were out in the court, they 310 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: suddenly walked out and said, the game is postponed. This 311 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: is what it sounded like if you were in Oklahoma 312 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: City on the night of March the eleventh, twenty twenty. Yeah. 313 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I think it's cut twenty three, but this is what 314 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: was going on. We'll play that for you in just 315 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: a sec. This is what was going on. Almost immediately 316 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: the NBA shutdown, and then every sports league in America 317 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: shut down as well, And then we're gonna keep playing 318 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: other clips from March the eleventh for you of all 319 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: of these events as they start to happen. Remember Trump 320 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: addressed the nation from the Oval Office shortly after this. 321 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: This is what it sounded like. Well, we'll play it 322 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: for you at some point when we return. Perhaps perhaps 323 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: we will have that ed be ready to go with 324 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: all of you. But in the meantime, I want to 325 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: tell you all about this is by the way, we 326 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: used to have it on my sports show all the time. 327 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: The audio never actually worked, so I feel like I'm 328 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: back home again. The X chair is without a doubt, 329 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: the most comfortable office chair I've ever owned. It is fantastic. 330 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: So many of you have new home offices, so many 331 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: of you need a new chair to be as productive 332 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: as possible. X chair can make sure that you are 333 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: getting hooked up. Also has dynamic variable lumbar's DVL. 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Together with other NATO allies and the G 343 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: seven Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, as well 344 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: as the European Union, we're going to jointly announce several 345 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: new steps to squeeze putin. Each of our nation is 346 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: going to take steps in the nine Most Favored Nations 347 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: status to Russia. In the United States, we call this 348 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: Permanent Normal Trade Relations PNTR, but it's the same thing. 349 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Revoking PNTR for Russia is going to make it harder 350 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: for Russia to do business with the United States, and 351 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: doing it in unison with other nations to make up 352 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: half of the global economy will be another crushing blow 353 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: to the Russian economy. It's already suffering very badly from 354 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: our sanctions. Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. That 355 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: was President Biden just about an hour and a half 356 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: or so before we came on air so earlier this morning, 357 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: saying that there is an escalation in the financial sanctions, 358 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: which the Kremlin is calling financial warfare against Russia. Most 359 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Favored Nation Trade Status being pulled. This, I think is 360 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: meant to signal a more long term hostile trading posture 361 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: toward Russia from the US and Allied countries. It's also unlikely, 362 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: unlikely that this will stop Russia in the days, I 363 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: would say, even weeks ahead from what seems to be 364 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: the implementation of the plan all along, which is to 365 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: seize Ukrainian population centers, pummel them with artillery strikes, and 366 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: squeeze and squeeze until eventually the Ukrainian government has to 367 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: sue for peace. I think that is the Russian plan. 368 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: Biden also this was interesting, specifically said that Russia will 369 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: pay a severe price if they were to if they 370 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: were to use chemical weapons, which is just raising yet 371 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: another specter of WMD. Go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, we actually, Clay, 372 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: we lost that clip too. Let's talk about the MiGs 373 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: for a second and the transfer of them. So the 374 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: fighter planes that were supposed to be pushed, I mean, 375 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I was, I was talking about this on Fox this morning. 376 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton, for example, says, we're sending the missiles, 377 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, shoulder fired missiles manpads, which is man portable 378 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: air defense system. Why not send them planes. It seems 379 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: like Poland wanted to make sure that Germany wanted to 380 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: Germany and the US would also have their hand in 381 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: pushing MiG fighter planes to Ukraine. And the Biden administration 382 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: looked at this and said, no, what do you make 383 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: of It's it's such an interesting question because Buck, what 384 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: we have debated on this show, and some of our 385 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: callers have called in, is what is the line of 386 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: demarcation where Russia says this is considered a direct act 387 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: of aggression and decides to hold the United States directly accountable. Right, 388 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: because all of the materials that were sending into Ukraine, now, 389 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: all of the sanctions that we are putting on Russia. 390 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: To me, those are in some ways acts of war. 391 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say. When the ruble has 392 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: lost fifty percent of its value, when the Russian stock 393 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: market is not allowed to be opened essentially since the 394 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: invasion began, When you are not able to get money 395 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: out or transfer money due to a variety of issues, 396 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: When we're not allowing your oil to be sold to 397 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: many different countries around the world, those feel like acts 398 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: of aggression on some way. But the Biden administration is 399 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: of the opinion that they're not going to cause Russia 400 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: to take the next step whatever, that proverbial next step 401 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: of action is what we discussed was, I understand, if 402 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm Poland and I have these big fighter jets and 403 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to let Ukrainian fighters take off 404 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: from Poland, that Russia might decide to bomb Poland to 405 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: try to prevent these fighter jets from taking off. And 406 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: so Poland made what I think is a smart calculation, 407 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: and they just flew him to Germany. And they thought 408 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: to themselves, there's no way that Russia is going to 409 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: bomb Germany, and certainly there's no way that they're going 410 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: to bomb an American Air Force base. And the Biden 411 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: administration seems to have been caught unaware by this, and 412 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: then they tried to backpedal and say, oh, we have 413 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. But I now, the more 414 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I have thought about it, I am of the opinion 415 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: that the forty Republican senators now who have reviewed this issue, 416 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: have decided that these jets should go to Ukraine. I'm 417 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: now of the opinion that that's the right call, because 418 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: we've already created this huge story surrounding it and allowing 419 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Ukrainian pilots to get into these MiGs and take off 420 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: and fly the planes to Ukraine. At this point feels 421 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: like we're bowing down to Vladimir Putin too much in 422 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: not allowing that to occur. So I am going to 423 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: be on the side of the forty Republican senators who 424 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: have looked at all these factors and said, hey, this 425 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: is not going to cause an acceleration in the way 426 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin is behaving, and so let's let the 427 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Ukrainians have access to these planes. I think that makes 428 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the most sense. What about you, I think that they 429 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: should do it. But remember it's it's not about whether 430 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: we can make the case. You know, there's there's no 431 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: judge here that we get to make a case before 432 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: about whether this is an escalation or not. Rationally speaking, 433 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: you can make a clear case that this is not 434 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: really different from giving lethal munitions, like I said, the 435 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Manpad stinger missiles, Javelin missiles, which are anti tank that's 436 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: ground to ground. There are different things. We're already in 437 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: large numbers sending to the Ukrainians and they're using them 438 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: to kill Russian soldiers. That's already happened out. So it's 439 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: a question of whether whether Vladimir Putin would have you 440 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: right that the whole point here's how is he going 441 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: to do? What's I guess the question is, and I 442 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting one. What is he to do? Differently? 443 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: Is he going to suddenly nuke Ukraine? Because the United 444 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: States is sending twenty four MiGs in with Ukrainian fighter 445 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: pilots on them. I guess when you're bombing a maternity 446 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: ward already inside of Ukraine. What I think the argument 447 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: that is interesting is what is the next level of 448 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: acceleration that he's willing to undertake that would occur because 449 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: of this? So that that's the point that or rather 450 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: that's the question that I don't think anybody nobody can 451 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: definitively answer. Would he would he fire missiles at you know, 452 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: a Ukraine, I mean at a Polish airbase just to 453 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: make a point and say, I'm not starting a war 454 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: with you guys, but if you're gonna have a you know, 455 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: a pipeline of fighters that are killing my guys, I'm 456 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna take you know. I don't know, but I don't 457 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: think anybody has a has a clear sense of it. 458 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: I do know though, that for example, on our side 459 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: of it, I think people get concerned arts. So now 460 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: we've provided them with planes, the next step feels like 461 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: a no fly zone, which people have been talking about 462 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: now already already for day rights. At what point is it, well, 463 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, the planes take off from NATO bases. Is 464 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: he really going to fire at NATO bases? Would he 465 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: really be willing to do that because the logistics and 466 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: support that the Ukrainians are going to need to keep 467 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: those planes in the sky. I also think, honestly, and 468 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: people probably don't want to hear this right now, but 469 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: I think it's important to always look at this with 470 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: just the most clear eyes possible, the most factual analysis. 471 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: We can give you a bunch of MiGs in the sky. 472 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Russians have fifteen hundred fighter planes, the 473 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: Ukrainians have roughly a hundred at the start of the conflict. 474 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: This is all just from the open source you can 475 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: check this online. So they've got to call it a 476 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: fifteen to one plane advantage right now, they have not 477 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: been using it. So I think people believe, oh, if 478 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: if we put Ukrainian planes in the sky, that that's 479 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: going to have a dramatic effect on the Russian's ability 480 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: to continue to prosecute this war. I think that's unlikely 481 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: to be the case. Now you could say, well, Buck, 482 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: we're also sending them missiles, and that's not changing everything. 483 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: We're trying to just help them fight with whatever we can. 484 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: But it doesn't strike me that this is going to 485 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: necessarily be that the game changer is that we clear 486 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the sky of Russian planes, which would be a no 487 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: fly zone. But that's war, and I think everyone recognizes 488 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: that that's that's war with Russia because you also have 489 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: to hit Remember, they have surface to air missiles on 490 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Russian territory that can fire hundreds of miles into Ukrainian airspace. 491 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: So you cannot have a no fly zone without hitting 492 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: those sam sites. You hit those sam sites, it's a war. Well, 493 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: it's it's straight up war for now. Now you're hitting 494 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: Russian soil. So this is how when you see Clay, 495 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: it's we want to do more, but are we are? 496 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, ultimately we're gonna have to face this as 497 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: a nation. Is it more important to us to stay 498 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: out of World War three with Russia and more important 499 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: to us that Russia loses in Ukraine? That's gonna be 500 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: a that's gonna be a question that we have to 501 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: answer as we go along here. Well, and I think 502 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: the fear becomes even if Russia loses in Ukraine, it's 503 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: not eliminating the threat of Vladimir Putin. In many ways, 504 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: it actually is making him more dangerous. And that's why 505 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I would allogize in some way if you want to 506 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: pay attention to what happened when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. 507 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: We mobilized an entire American response, international response, but we 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't depose Saddam Hussein, and so then we went back 509 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: into Iraq later and created the mess that later ensued there. 510 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: But Saddam Hussein was not eliminated as a threat. Even 511 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: if Russia eventually pulls out of Ukraine, and even if 512 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: potentially they end up losing in quotation marks, both sides 513 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: are going to claim victory. Right probably before all is 514 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: said and done, the Vladimir Putin threat is still going 515 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: to be there, And so what is he going to 516 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: be like in the wake of however this Ukrainian situation 517 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: resolves itself, It's still gonna be I believe in existential 518 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: threat to Americans in a way that it wasn't before 519 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: he invaded. How smart are you to hold on to 520 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: all those family videos and film rills from long ago, 521 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: holding memories a great family get togethers, those times, as 522 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: well as the poignant moments captured on tape of baby's 523 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: first steps, a wedding, a graduation. They're all meant to 524 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: be seen in reference forever. But as you know, those 525 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: videotapes have an expiration date. They're made with magnetic tape. 526 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: That's what's in those VHS cassettes. Magnetic tape was made 527 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: to last ten years, maybe twenty years tops before it 528 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: starts to disintegrate. 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Convert your entire collection of tapes 536 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: and films at nine dollars a cassette or real Visit 537 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: legacybox dot com slash Clay to shop their nine dollars 538 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: or tape sell that's a legacybox dot Com slash Clay 539 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: to get this incredible first time off. Welcome back in Clay, 540 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sex to show. I hope all of you 541 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: are having a fantastic Friday, Buck oh Man. Thirty TikTok 542 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: stars have received a briefing from the White House on 543 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine Thursday afternoon. According to The Washington Post, 544 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: thirty top tikstock TikTok stars gathered on a zoom call 545 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: to receive key information about the war unfolding in Ukraine. 546 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: This news just coming out. I just I mean, I 547 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: understand the White House probably would sit around Buck and say, well, 548 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, we need to make sure that young people 549 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: understand the consequences and significant of what significance of what's 550 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: going on in Ukraine. But the idea of the White 551 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: House convening a briefing for thirty top TikTok stars. First 552 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: of all, I hope Joe Biden talk to them, because 553 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: I would love the idea of Joe Biden having to 554 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: be explained what TikTok is uh in and of itself. 555 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: But this is just this is like when they had 556 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: the influencers. Remember when they had like the ridiculous of course, yeah, 557 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: they had that guy who came along fingernails who was 558 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: gay or whatever, the handbag and the long nails and 559 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: the thing. Um, I don't know who that guy is. 560 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I understand these do not influential online 561 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: in some way, but I would say him at the 562 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: White House. You know, we we as conservative see this 563 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: and we look at an administration that it's just fundamentally unserious. 564 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's doing serious damage, but it's unserious. People 565 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: who are making these very important decisions, but they do 566 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: understand marketing and propaganda, and ye will turn around and 567 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: say why is it? I mean to the point about 568 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: you remember we were having a discussion about thirty four 569 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: year olds won't fight. They won't fight if we got invaded. 570 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you look at TikTok, you look 571 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 1: at these platforms they are making kids that they're convincing 572 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: them of politics and of narratives on a regular basis. 573 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: By the way, we come back, we're gonna have some 574 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: fun with somebody actually throwing some punches back against Disney 575 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: over this uh this bill. But I wanted to play 576 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: We were talking earlier in the hour about this was 577 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: the anniversary. Today is March the eleventh of twenty twenty 578 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: is when for many people, COVID first exploded onto the 579 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: scene and President Trump had an address from the Oval Office. 580 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: He shut down many of the borders. Everything kind of 581 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: hit the fan all of a sudden on March the 582 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: eleventh last year, and this was for many people the 583 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: moment when sports shut down. The NBA was preparing game 584 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: between Oklahoma City and the Utah Jazz and this is 585 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: what happened on the PA system. This was basically from 586 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: this point over the next twelve hours or so eighteen hours, 587 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: every sports league in America shutdown, which was a prelude 588 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: to the entire country shutting down. Listen, tonight has been postponed. 589 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: You take your time in leaving the arena. Tonight can 590 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: do show in a normally fashion. Thank you for coming 591 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: out tonight. We are all safe, and you give this 592 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: okasey Thunder dot com for updates on the upcoming games. 593 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: So that was basically the end of sports and when 594 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: sports shutdown. We'll play a couple of more cuts from 595 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: March the eleventh, when Trump came out and spoke This 596 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: is also suddenly, Tom, you remember this book, how crazy 597 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: it was that that Marched the eleventh, Tom Hanks announced 598 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: that he had tested positive for COVID. He was in 599 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: Australian he was an isolation. At some point there will 600 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: be a gigantic documentary done on everything shutting down in America, 601 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: and frankly, I think the fact that we got everything wrong. 602 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: But March the eleventh, this day two years ago, represented 603 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: the beginning of that process, and that crowd filing out 604 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma City was one of the last crowds to 605 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: exist in mass numbers for basically a year. I remember 606 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: Clay going home from the It's in downtown is where 607 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: the wr NYC studio was. I was doing my show 608 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: from down there, and I remember going home and realizing 609 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: that I had to get all of my and I 610 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: would have been probably two years ago to the day 611 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: almost now, maybe you know, give or take a couple 612 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: of days, going home, realizing that I was going to 613 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: have to actually dust off my home radio gear and 614 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: in real time said, I was like, I don't think 615 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I can go back, you know, go back into the office. Buck, 616 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: you were talking about New York City. This is one 617 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: of the craziest of all things. They started the Big 618 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: East Tournament and they stopped the game at halftime. Like 619 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: they started. They were like, okay, well we're gonna try 620 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: to play the tournament. At halftime, the teams went in 621 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: and they were like, sorry, we're shutting down the entire 622 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: tournament literally at halftime. And I remember, you know, I 623 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: do a daily sports gambling show at the time. They 624 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: completely canceled our sports gambling show. Fuck. I went in 625 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: the next day. For three months, I did daily sports 626 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: talk radio three hours a day without a single sporting 627 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: of it going on anywhere. How do you do How 628 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: did you do that? I mean, well, I was one 629 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: of the guys who was going on argue and we 630 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: have to find a way to how we have to 631 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: find a way to play because initially, remember the hope was, oh, 632 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: we're only going to be shut down for like two weeks. 633 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Everything was going to come back. Sports kind of went first, 634 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: among many things. I mean with the two weeks, I 635 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: mean I remember this because just the people thinking of 636 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: a giant arena full of people, this is you know, 637 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: that's like the worst possible thing. Turns out actually, no, 638 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: you get it at home, yes, and you get it 639 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: in close quarters with people that you spend all day 640 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: within an office. It's actually not going to a sports stadium. 641 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: That was the big But they got it. They got 642 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: everything wrong. You get back to the earliest days, go 643 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: back two years ago and see what was being said, Oh, 644 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: we had a three percent fatality rate maybe, and you know, 645 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: all this, all this stuff was being said was totally Look, 646 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: we got those cuts. Some of those cuts we're gonna 647 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: play for you during the course of today's program. All 648 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: of it was wrong. And we're going to dive back 649 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: into in the third hour with doctor Joseph Latipo of Florida, 650 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: the surgeon general of that state, who says no vaccine 651 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: recommendation for small children, and also Alex Barnson more data. 652 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: The fight is not over there, folks, fight for freedom continues. 653 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: Talk to you about it in just a few fleet 654 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.