Speaker 1: Let's get on Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Jules, what's the first thing you think of
Speaker 2: when you hear of Matthew Stafford. I can tell you this,
Speaker 2: I'll go first, first overall pick to the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 2: because that's when I started becoming a true NFL fan,
Speaker 2: was about two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: twenty ten. I was always an NFL fan, but I
Speaker 2: really got interested in and in everything that was going
Speaker 2: on with the draft because I wanted to get drafted
Speaker 2: and that was my ultimate goal. So then when I
Speaker 2: got to college, I started really particularly paying attention to
Speaker 2: the draft, and that was truly the first draft I
Speaker 2: truly paid attention to because why because I wanted to
Speaker 2: get drafted eventually. And number two, my brother was in
Speaker 2: this draft, like I said, and he got drafted to
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions as well, the same year as Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 2: going number one overall, but my brother was a second
Speaker 2: seventh round pick. I think he was the second last
Speaker 2: pick overall as well in the draft mister Levana, mister
Speaker 2: irrelevant Eve.
Speaker 1: So it was close to being one of the last
Speaker 1: picks in the draft. But that's why I know about
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 2: I've been following Matthew Stafford his awn entire career, and
Speaker 2: that's why the Detroit Lions first overall pick is what
Speaker 2: I first think of when I hear Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: How about you, Julian.
Speaker 3: I mean, a tale of two careers.
Speaker 4: He started his career in Detroit and his numbers were
Speaker 4: always gotty. He's always been able to sling it had Megatron,
Speaker 4: and then the crazy trade. After Goff leads the Rams
Speaker 4: to a super Bowl, they trade him for Stafford. Stafford
Speaker 4: comes in first year, wins the super Bowl, and he's
Speaker 4: been going to the playoffs ever since. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's been It's crazy to like really think about how
Speaker 4: big the ecosystem is for a guy at the position
Speaker 4: of quarterback, and you know, he's been a it's been
Speaker 4: a great comeback story. And it really wasn't a comeback
Speaker 4: story for playing well, but a comeback story for getting
Speaker 4: to experience winning. I mean, playing Detroit had to be tough.
Speaker 4: This is you know, I know for the young, young fans,
Speaker 4: everyone thinks Detroit's been good for these last couple of years,
Speaker 4: but you know, it's been a rough place historically, rough
Speaker 4: place to play, and for him to get to experience
Speaker 4: a lot of the success he's had has been really
Speaker 4: fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Actually got to throw with him once.
Speaker 1: What was that? Like?
Speaker 2: I remember you were talking about it because Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: got brought up somehow when we were watching one of
Speaker 2: the games, and then I was just like, Jewels, you
Speaker 2: ever throw with him? Because I know he's been out
Speaker 2: here in LA a few times and you're always throwing
Speaker 2: with fifty different quarterbacks in the offseason when you were playing.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, you ever throw a Staffer? And
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, So what was that?
Speaker 1: Like? Jules Dude?
Speaker 4: He he was one of the most impressive just natural
Speaker 4: throwers I've ever thrown with. And usually, you know, I'd
Speaker 4: go to Tom Houses and uh his little like camp.
Speaker 4: Tom would go and throw with him, and then when
Speaker 4: Tom would leave town, I would still want quarterback throws,
Speaker 4: so I'd go throw with a bunch of different pros
Speaker 4: that would be coming in town to work with them,
Speaker 4: and one day Stafford comes in. You know, you go
Speaker 4: out there and sometimes guys don't know your timing.
Speaker 3: You know, everything's timing routes.
Speaker 4: You know, you're big out, you're ten to twelve yard out,
Speaker 4: your five yard out, your your curls, your deep posts,
Speaker 4: your crosses, your seams post high seam, your middlefield open seam.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of stuff going and sometimes you know,
Speaker 4: the timing can be off, so guys miss you here
Speaker 4: because they don't know how you break down your weight
Speaker 4: or this, that and the other routes on air. You know,
Speaker 4: with him, we I think we threw forty four balls
Speaker 4: and I think we went forty four for forty four.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think a ball touched the ground.
Speaker 4: Another guy that like, I was just super impressed with
Speaker 4: with throwing, Like that's what he was like always with,
Speaker 4: you know, Brady, because we knew each other, but you
Speaker 4: go with different guys. Some guys would you know they
Speaker 4: didn't know your body mechanics.
Speaker 1: Well he did. Well.
Speaker 2: That's what makes a great quarterback great is that they
Speaker 2: can adjust to the receiver that they're throwing to and
Speaker 2: be able to pick up their tendency as well to
Speaker 2: be able to place the ball where they need to
Speaker 2: place the ball because of the way that you're moving
Speaker 2: out there out on the field as.
Speaker 1: A wide receiver.
Speaker 2: And that's just the skill set one of the skill
Speaker 2: sets that Matthew Stafford has that makes him, you know,
Speaker 2: so great. He's one of the most talented quarterbacks I
Speaker 2: would say to ever play the game. He has durability
Speaker 2: as well. He has elite arm strength, there is no
Speaker 2: doubt about that. What was it like, was he just
Speaker 2: like firing bullets to.
Speaker 1: You and flick of wrist just a risk like he
Speaker 1: wasn't even trying.
Speaker 4: You know, those like you know when you run like
Speaker 4: a deep bow from the slot you go in six
Speaker 4: up to about fifteen, rolled over at twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: like he would do his play action come off of
Speaker 4: it whooa, and that thing would be on a rope
Speaker 4: like hit you like four or five yards before the sideline.
Speaker 4: That's when you can see guys, you know, our arm
Speaker 4: strength is those outbreaking deep routes when that ball gets
Speaker 4: up on you like he he just he had great
Speaker 4: ball placement. The ball was always where it had to be.
Speaker 4: And that's a pro. That's a processing thing. When a
Speaker 4: guy can process a receiver, you know, he does that
Speaker 4: very well.
Speaker 3: We were we were we watching right before this the
Speaker 3: miked up.
Speaker 1: What was it on? He was under Detroit Lions and
Speaker 1: it just showed his toughness.
Speaker 3: Tough.
Speaker 1: He is one tough mofo.
Speaker 3: He's tough.
Speaker 1: You know what a mofo is, that's a mother trucker.
Speaker 2: You take the tea whord the T ladder and you
Speaker 2: switch it with the F F.
Speaker 1: But mother trucker.
Speaker 2: But switched the T n F and it was I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it was like week ten, Week eleven or
Speaker 2: week twelve and two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: So I think he was just a rookie. Was rooky yourself.
Speaker 2: He had to prove himself that he's a tough sob
Speaker 2: and he wanted to change the culture in Detroit and
Speaker 2: this is what it takes. And I remember he got
Speaker 2: apps and this is like, this is the era where
Speaker 2: you can absolutely slam.
Speaker 1: A quarterback still.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you that era was just lovely
Speaker 2: to watch as a fan.
Speaker 1: Even as a player.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh man, that quarterback just got smack, brother,
Speaker 2: And like they look like this on the field after
Speaker 2: every hit too, But they always managed to go back
Speaker 2: in the game, just like Stafford did.
Speaker 1: He was laying on the field like this.
Speaker 4: He got all the way.
Speaker 2: I think he separated his non throwing arms shoulder. They
Speaker 2: followed him the whole entire time on the clip, and
Speaker 2: he was just screaming an agony of just pain. Ah
Speaker 2: and you, I mean, you've been there. We've all been there.
Speaker 2: I've been there, but as a quarterback, you he's done,
Speaker 2: you know. But Stafford showed his toughness time out. I
Speaker 2: don't understand that one.
Speaker 1: And then explain the rest. What happened from there?
Speaker 2: He went to the sidelines, they checked him out, They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: your shoulder, shoulder. Cleveland called the time out and then
Speaker 2: it was the pass interference in the place. So then
Speaker 2: it was first and goal I think with the couple
Speaker 2: seconds left on the one and they needed a touchdown
Speaker 2: to win the game.
Speaker 1: And what happened from there, Jules.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he rolled out and he was able to deliver
Speaker 4: the football. I mean, the guy clearly was in excruciating
Speaker 4: pain and was able to go out and win the
Speaker 4: football game.
Speaker 3: That was impressive.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: That's tough.
Speaker 4: You know, We've been around some guys that have hurt
Speaker 4: their non throwing shoulder that didn't play when they could
Speaker 4: have played. And you know, a young guy like him
Speaker 4: trying to get the respect of.
Speaker 3: His team early in his career. That's how you do it.
Speaker 4: You know, you get your teeth kicked in, you pick
Speaker 4: them up, you put them back in your mouth, and
Speaker 4: you go play the next play. And that's what Matthew
Speaker 4: Stafford did all his career, you know, watching his no
Speaker 4: look throws. Like we all watch Patrick Mahomes, We watch
Speaker 4: all these guys do the no look. Joe Burrow, he
Speaker 4: was doing that fifteen to sixteen years ago.
Speaker 2: He was kind of like under the radar, one of
Speaker 2: the one of the originals to do that.
Speaker 3: He's on a shitty team, so you don't get the highlight.
Speaker 2: How about him as well? He was played with Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 2: absolute beast megatron. He got him the record for what
Speaker 2: most receiving yards ever in a year, and then he
Speaker 2: goes to l A and then he gives triple triple
Speaker 2: Crown Cup, Cooper Cup, which is just unbelievable. Those two
Speaker 2: definitely couldn't have done it without Stafford as well. I
Speaker 2: think that's one of the coolest things that Stafford has
Speaker 2: in his resume that he could do that. And Jules,
Speaker 2: you threw with with Stafford? Is there any other cool quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: So I like I talked about you. I know you've
Speaker 2: known you throw them with a couple of quarterbacks here
Speaker 2: in l A any other qbs that.
Speaker 4: I just throw a lot with the Castle. I would
Speaker 4: throw a lot with Liner all the la Russell Wilson, Carson, Palmer.
Speaker 1: Did ru did Russell Wilson throw?
Speaker 4: Herbert was out there a couple of times. I want
Speaker 4: to hear about Russell Wilson's like, he has a great,
Speaker 4: great deep ball. Dude, he throws tear drops. Man, he
Speaker 4: throws that thing so high. I was really impressed with
Speaker 4: his deep ball too, because I was coming off my
Speaker 4: ACL we went to U C.
Speaker 1: L A.
Speaker 4: And he was in town and he was trying to
Speaker 4: get some work in and he was I mean his
Speaker 4: deep balls, it's a real deal, like when everyone talks
Speaker 4: about it, and you can always tell a really good
Speaker 4: deep ball is a quarterback that throws it really really
Speaker 4: high and it lets you run in and it drops
Speaker 4: right up in that bucket.
Speaker 3: Like a good deep ball thrower.
Speaker 4: You'll see the nose of the ball go up and
Speaker 4: it'll come down, and I mean.
Speaker 3: He throws a really good deep ball.
Speaker 4: Carson used to throw really good like deep bows, those
Speaker 4: outbows that he used to hit to.
Speaker 3: Chad.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, Castle was just throwing missiles always. We used to
Speaker 4: go with Kenny O'Brien and he was a quarterback coach
Speaker 4: out in Manhattan Beach.
Speaker 3: We go over there, What well do you throw with
Speaker 3: any other quarterback?
Speaker 2: I really never really have, man, I mean I always
Speaker 2: was loyal to my quarterbacks jewels, unlike you.
Speaker 1: That's why you know. Tom loves me the most.
Speaker 2: He knew you're going out to LA and throwing with
Speaker 2: fifty different quarterbacks. But I only tested. I only threw
Speaker 2: with Tom in the offseason. Hoyer and literally the only
Speaker 2: other quarterback I swear in my whole entire career that
Speaker 2: I threw with was Jameis Winston one time in Tampa.
Speaker 1: In Tampa, I was in Tampa for in appearance and
Speaker 1: I went.
Speaker 2: To Top Golf and Jameis Winston was there and I
Speaker 2: ran into him and then he's like, yo, I'm throwing tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You want to throw some routes? And I was like,
Speaker 2: not a problem, my man, Let's throw some routes. I
Speaker 2: just met him real quick, that's all we really talked about.
Speaker 2: Showed up and we threw some routes, man, which is great.
Speaker 2: I loved him, man. He had a lot of passion
Speaker 2: for the game. He was, he was, he was great.
Speaker 2: His ball was good.
Speaker 3: Man, It's a lot of tripical force, a lot of spin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good spin.
Speaker 2: A couple of ducks once in a while, but that
Speaker 2: was okay as long as the ball got there, you know,
Speaker 2: the right placement.
Speaker 1: But that's fine.
Speaker 2: But what I really liked about him that he was
Speaker 2: intrigued that Tom Brady was my quarterback. And he kept
Speaker 2: asking me questions about Tom because he wanted to learn
Speaker 2: from Tom, and you could tell like he wanted to
Speaker 2: get better as a player. And he kept bringing up, like,
Speaker 2: what is Tom doing on this play?
Speaker 1: What is Tom?
Speaker 3: Would you tell him?
Speaker 1: And I just said, hey, this is what Tom does
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 4: That's just a little bit. I've never said that. Everyone
Speaker 4: asked me, Hey, what's Tom? I saying you, I'm not
Speaker 4: telling you.
Speaker 1: She never went in the depth too far, Jewels.
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you, ship Okay, I won't tell you.
Speaker 4: Tom would be so like Tom was whenever we would
Speaker 4: throw anywhere, it would be like we'd have like secret
Speaker 4: service scanning the fucking field. Tom didn't want anyone to
Speaker 4: coming in and watching us. Remember that, Like we'd hop
Speaker 4: the fence break break laws at U c l A.
Speaker 3: Alex would be coming over.
Speaker 1: He would be like Helicopter Bob was making sure that
Speaker 1: no one was watching it.
Speaker 4: He was like he did not want anyone watching.
Speaker 3: He hated it. I liked it though. I like that.
Speaker 2: I liked tell it because then it brings bullshit and
Speaker 2: it brings extra work, curricular activities that you don't want
Speaker 2: because you're just trying to work. So I'm all in
Speaker 2: for that. And that's being a leader too. Hey, this
Speaker 2: is work time. Get the get the fuck away from us.
Speaker 2: We gotta work. We don't take the pictures. Stafford, Oh Stafford,
Speaker 2: you're right? Oh, well, what Jamis Wints? I loved him too.
Speaker 2: He was a great dude. He was fun to throw with,
Speaker 2: by the way, But back to Stafford, we all know
Speaker 2: he's a tough sob one of the most talented quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: What do you got against him?
Speaker 1: I got nothing against them.
Speaker 4: Besides when you got traded to Detroit, you said, I'm retired.
Speaker 4: I don't want to play a fucking Matthew Stafford. What
Speaker 4: do you got against him? I got nothing against him.
Speaker 4: That wasn't because of Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3: Well was it because of the.
Speaker 1: Only thing against him?
Speaker 2: I would say is that he just really's never been
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, like you know, a ton of times
Speaker 2: with that much talent. I mean, that's the only thing
Speaker 2: that you can argue versus. But it's because of the
Speaker 2: teams that I would say he was on. Like in Detroit,
Speaker 2: the teams were all awful, and then you get to
Speaker 2: La He's going to the playoffs all the time. It
Speaker 2: just shows that football is a complete game as well.
Speaker 2: But I'm just I know, but what do I have
Speaker 2: against him? I have nothing against Detroit Jewels. I already
Speaker 2: talked about what happened in that trade. I was kind
Speaker 2: of being a very big asshole that year in the
Speaker 2: off season. I sure was, you know, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to be Okay. I thought it was fun, you know.
Speaker 2: I was just matching the energy in the organization. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I turned into the asshole. I never knew I
Speaker 2: had it, But when you're in that organization long enough,
Speaker 2: you can turn into one. I finally did Bill called
Speaker 2: me like eighty times. I didn't answer.
Speaker 1: Wonderful.
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, I get a text for my
Speaker 2: age trade. Hey you're traded to the Lions. I was like,
Speaker 2: I knew that was gonna happen because I wasn't answering
Speaker 2: Bill's calls. I knew he was gonna freaking.
Speaker 1: Pull pull, you know, and when you mighty.
Speaker 2: Power move on me. So then I was like, hey, Drew,
Speaker 2: you can't trade a guy that's just retired. So so
Speaker 2: then drew it up Paige's organization, Hey Rob just retired.
Speaker 1: We're sorry, you can't trade him.
Speaker 2: And then then it was literally about to go down
Speaker 2: and break it in the news too, like in like
Speaker 2: two hours, like the whole trade literally went down, even
Speaker 2: knowing this was right before we won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: it was right after the game. It was it was
Speaker 2: off season after we lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, because you got hurt because you're assisting
Speaker 2: and you didn't want to play in that game, so
Speaker 2: we lost because of you.
Speaker 1: Juals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I practiced played. So then he traded me, but
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go anywhere. I was just being
Speaker 2: an asshole, and deep down I was not leaving leaving Bill.
Speaker 1: You know, I love you, buddy.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to leave you, you know, just a little
Speaker 2: tension in all relationships.
Speaker 1: But then we we smoothed it out.
Speaker 2: After I was retired, and then I came back to
Speaker 2: the Patriots that year and it all worked out.
Speaker 1: We won the Super Bowl. We beat the whatever.
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams in Atlanta the oh oh wait, Nope,
Speaker 2: because it was Jared Goff at the time.
Speaker 3: It was because we.
Speaker 2: Beat the Rams, Matthew Stafford got traded to the Ramps.
Speaker 1: So what kind of dude is Matthew Stafford?
Speaker 4: What kind of I mean, He's definitely got dog, He's
Speaker 4: got dog tendencies. He acted like a dog in that
Speaker 4: fucking that miked up rookie year breaking his shoulder.
Speaker 3: He's definitely a dog. He's definitely a stud.
Speaker 1: He's more of a stud than a dog. I would say,
Speaker 1: definitely a dog.
Speaker 3: Mister Texas and Football, Like.
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit back in the pocket, just.
Speaker 3: Just Super Bowl win their Hall of Fame numbers.
Speaker 2: Brushes their hair off, brushes their shoulder, and just boom
Speaker 2: zips the ball without even knowing. Like he's also a dude,
Speaker 2: and right when he processes the guy, that's.
Speaker 4: I think he invited me to do something right after,
Speaker 4: like we met for the first time. He's like, you
Speaker 4: want to have some beers. I'm like, yeah, I can't
Speaker 4: make it. But like he's that kind of dude.
Speaker 3: He's definitely.
Speaker 1: I never met him though before, so is he a
Speaker 1: dude's dude jewels? I think he is a stud.
Speaker 3: On three one two three.
Speaker 1: He's definitely at We're on the same page.