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Speaker 1: These One Bills Live, presented by called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: Here we be on a rain soaked Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as

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Speaker 1: it is pouring raining cats and dogs here on a

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Speaker 1: Friday in Western New York. Practice inside today. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the practice updates in just a second. Before we

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Speaker 1: do that, I want to say Happy Veterans Day to

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Speaker 1: all of our veterans out there for your service to

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Speaker 1: our country, including my dad, my uncle, my great uncle,

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Speaker 1: my father in law, my wife's uncle. It's just we

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Speaker 1: so just want to recognize them along with all the

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Speaker 1: other veterans, for their service and for the sacrifice of

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Speaker 1: the families, the family. I think what gets lost sometimes

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Speaker 1: and this is Salute to Service Month obviously in the

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Speaker 1: wearing here today. That was Steve's idea, so kudos to you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I think what gets lost sometimes is everybody respects the

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Speaker 1: service of the veterans for obvious reasons, but the sacrifices

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Speaker 1: that the families make. Two. You know, you've got family

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Speaker 1: their spouses are serving our country. So salute to the

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Speaker 1: families that make the sacrifices as well. My father, my

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Speaker 1: dad was an Army member, My father in law was

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Speaker 1: old before he ever laid eyes on his father. Wow,

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Speaker 1: because they might they'd gotten married and then you know,

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Speaker 1: he ever saw his own dad. So um, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. I think I told you that.

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Speaker 1: So my dad got drafted for girls. My dad got

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Speaker 1: drafted for Vietnam. And at that point in time, there

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Speaker 1: were four places you could get stationed Vietnam, Ramstein Air

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Speaker 1: they're all worried about the Russian threat. Russians are coming

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Speaker 1: over any moment now while we're all focused on Vietnam.

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Speaker 1: That's what they were, you know, back then, Cole War

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Speaker 1: go to jungle warfare in Vietnam. Um. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: he had arctic gear. Oh yeah, he said it was

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Speaker 1: But he was an anchorage, just like your daughter. It

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Speaker 1: is a military city. And yeah, kudos to everybody, Thank

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Speaker 1: Happy Veterans Day to all the veterans, and again, thank

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Speaker 1: We know Josh Allen is the major point of concern

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Speaker 1: here and during the media viewing portion of practice, Josh

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Speaker 1: this season, the Bill's defense will not have Micah Hide

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Speaker 1: College of Osteopathic Medicine. And I gotta tell you, with

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting too to see if and I go

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Speaker 1: he's going out there and showing he's able to do

426
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: on Sundays. So this is a nickname I had not

427
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: heard before. Lano. Is that what we're calling him? Like him?

428
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: Shorten it out tomorrow might be something different. I called Lano.

429
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: I call him Lonnie, I call him money Okay, yeah,

430
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: maddie boy, I call him anything. You know, it's just

431
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: whatever whatever I feel like called him that day. I

432
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: know he's a quiet, Yeah, he's a quiet. He's not

433
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: though he's not because whatever you like, the dog comes

434
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: to any name. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, Lano is um.

435
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: Other than Isaiah McKenzie, which we all know about. Little

436
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: dirty Lano might be the biggest junk talker within the

437
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: on the field or just within within the locker room.

438
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He always has something to say and and

439
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: if something happens, if something happens and you know, say

440
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: I I make a wrong call or something and walk

441
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: through or something, he'll he'll study. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

442
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: I'll put I'll put Matt Mlano's business out there because

443
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: he needs to straight started being hell accountable. Yea, how

444
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: much does it come up that because I'm curious about

445
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: this because you mentioned that he was, you know, former

446
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: safety at Boston College. How much does that come up

447
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: like hey, like you know, like for example, when you

448
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: said I didn't make the right call, yeah, He's like, hey,

449
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: I was a safety. I know what you're supposed to

450
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: be doing back there. Yeah. Does he throw that at you? No,

451
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's nothing like that. Um. I just

452
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: think that he understands, you know, if he has a

453
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: one on one matchup with the tight end, like he's

454
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: a former safety, and and when you're a safety in

455
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: your matchup with the tight end, doesn't matter who it is,

456
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: you feel like you had the advantage, you know, one

457
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: on one. And so I think that's how that's how

458
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: Malano thinks. Nick has the second question, what can we

459
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: do when teams start using the Jets strategy by trying

460
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: to get the ball out of their quarterback's hands so

461
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: quickly that our d line doesn't have time to be

462
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: a fan? That's a very good question. Um, I would say,

463
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, we we feel like our front fours

464
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: is the best in the league, and um, you know,

465
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: we put a lot on them to get after the

466
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: quarterback with the ball. If the quarterbacks getting the ball

467
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: out quick. Um. You know, obviously us in the back

468
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: end have to uh put put some pressure on the

469
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: on the receivers or on the tight ends, whatever it

470
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: may be, on the skill positions, and at the same

471
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: time defense line get their hands up tip balls. We

472
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: got one against Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Phillips tipped it up

473
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: or um and line caught it. So um. But I

474
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: think that the ultimately like you can you can nickel

475
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: and dime us all the way down the field. But

476
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: I think that the best part about our defense and

477
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: what we've been doing since Johns in seventeen is is

478
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: you know, not giving up big plays and whenever that

479
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: offense makes a mistake, capitalize on it and take the

480
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: ball away. And if you force field goals, especially with

481
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: the offense that we have, we're gonna win most ball games. Yeah.

482
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: One of the things about it is in the league today,

483
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: it used to be back and the way back, and

484
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: then even before my time, it's like you gotta run

485
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: it and you gotta stop the run. Nowadays it's like

486
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: you gotta get after the pastor and you gotta create

487
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: turnal and you scheme that way, right, I mean, And

488
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: it's a. It's a conversation that's ongoing and get give

489
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: us some insights to you know, you're you know how

490
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: the guys in the back end of the defense say, listen,

491
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: if this happens, this happens, we can get one right

492
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: here kind of thing that those conversations. Yeah, so we

493
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: talk all the time. Um, you know, especially in this league,

494
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: like what you said, like offenses are we feel, um,

495
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, aren't necessarily patient enough to just go five

496
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: yards and go five yards all the way down the field.

497
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna play action, they're gonna try to

498
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: take a shot. And when they take a shot, that's

499
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: what we're sitting on. That's when we say, okay, you know,

500
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: you try to take a get a big play on us. Um,

501
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: you know us in the back end, and you know,

502
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna, you know, try to get a

503
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: takeaway from it. So, um, you know, we just feel

504
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: like within our defense, within our scheme, we just don't

505
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: give up big plays and when offenses trying to do

506
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: that against us, that's when we take them all away.

507
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You're doing film study

508
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: all week and you might feel like you've got a

509
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: hunch about something like, Man, I keep seeing that, and

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: it seems like there are opportunities for defenders when the

511
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: offense does this or there's this kind of a play call.

512
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has only six interceptions this season, but all

513
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: six are on downfield throws. So I'm sure that's something

514
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: that maybe pop out to you know, guys like you,

515
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: when you're watching the film during the week, do you

516
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: go back to the numbers and check. It's almost like

517
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: you use it as a cross reference point. Do you

518
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: guys use numbers like that? All six of his picks

519
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: downfield throws this year? We talk about numbers. There's so

520
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: many numbers. They get bounced around every week in meetings, um,

521
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: And you know that's obviously what the coaches do. The

522
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: coaches breaking down a lot of the film and they

523
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: give us the probability and the percentages and all that

524
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: type of stuff. And you know there's a there's a

525
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: lasting joke within our defensive room like I'm the type

526
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: of guy if it ain't one hundred percent, I don't

527
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: want to hear it, Like I I need high tendency stuff.

528
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to hear sixty percent stuff.

529
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. What about that one?

530
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: All six of his interceptions are on down love throws.

531
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I love it. That just means when he's taking shots

532
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: down the field, obviously has good has you know he

533
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: has good good guys on the outside the Yeah, goog

534
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: get the ball. But yeah, I also have some some

535
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: some opportunity to make some place for ucause Cousin seems

536
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: like a very buy the book quarterback. There's not a

537
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: lot of improvisation to his game. This is the call.

538
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm running the call, three steps, bang balls coming out

539
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. But the one guy that he will put

540
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: it up for is Jefferson, and I understand why, Like

541
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna give him chances to make plays. There's more

542
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls to him than really anybody else on

543
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: their team. Yeah, what does that do for you guys

544
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: as a defense, because you know he's gonna be targeted heavily.

545
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: But if you can plaster you're probably have a chance

546
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: to make a play. Yeah. Well, I think comes to things.

547
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: We know that Kirk Cousins when he's when he's playing well,

548
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: he's playing well. When he's not getting pressure on him,

549
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: he's he's able to make some throws and die love

550
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: and be one of the one of the very good

551
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. But when he there's pressure on him,

552
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: he's forcing throws. You know, Like we just mentioned to Jefferson,

553
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: we know that as a defense, we always have to

554
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: know where he's at any given time. It doesn't matter

555
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: if he's lined up in the backfield, he goes out wide,

556
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: he's a single receiver. He so the three you know,

557
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: to the three set doesn't matter. He always have to

558
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: know where he's at um and you know, hopefully there's

559
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: rare occurrences where he's just one on one. Hopefully you

560
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: know there's a safety over top or and so when

561
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Kirk Cusins makes those mistakes, you go get it. Because

562
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: that's how Washington got a pick in the end zone

563
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: last he throws a jump ball to him on a

564
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: corner route. Corner tips it the other guy. So we

565
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: got we're talking about justin Jefferson. But one of the questions,

566
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: this next question from Chris to you, Mike, is who's

567
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: the most dangerous offensive player you've watched on film this

568
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: season so far? And one the most dangerous I guess

569
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: it could be Josh. I'm at this week. Pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

570
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: I would say Jefferson is definitely at the top. UM

571
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: just what he's able to do. He's can catch any ball. UM,

572
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: He's catch radius is huge, UM, fast break tackles, all

573
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. I'm going with him, my I mean,

574
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: obviously I'm not watching him every week on film. But

575
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a different beast. Josh Allen is is

576
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: somebody that, UM, you cannot account for on every single play,

577
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna he can you know, if you try

578
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: to sit back, UM and and you know, let he can.

579
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: He can get out there and run the ball, he

580
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: can throw the ball, he can do it all. So

581
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I would say Josh Allen being the best UM offensive

582
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: player in the league. The thing is, and I've seen

583
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: it happen. We saw it. It started happening a lot

584
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when you guys, you know, all of

585
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, you guys took a huge step forward. Right.

586
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: You'd see like Vic Fangio and Denver when he's a

587
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: head coach and called them defensive plays. You saw it

588
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: with Robert saw when he was in San Francisco, he

589
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: went out there. You'd see these defensive coordinators on the

590
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: sidelines just they'd call the perfect defense with a free rusher,

591
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing. They got it, They got him, and

592
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: it turns into a touchdown against him, They're like, how

593
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: can you do it? Because Josh just kind of overcomes

594
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: with He's a big, huge mistake eraser exactly. That's a

595
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: real problem for defensive coordinators because he turns a catastrophe

596
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: into a touchdown. He does. And I was I was

597
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: in Green Bay for four years, so I saw it.

598
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw Anon Rodgers in his prime,

599
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what he did. Defenses were called the

600
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: perfect play, and it was just, you know, he'd scramble

601
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: around or he'd run for twenty yards to get a

602
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: first down, and it was just always something he was

603
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: doing to push this, you know, to run the score

604
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: or you know, push the stick. So that's Josh Allen

605
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: right now. Man. I just loved it. I'm thankful I'm

606
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: on this team and I'm able to watch, you know,

607
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm off for this season, but I'm

608
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm on, you know, sideline and front row seat to

609
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: watch him play. Robert with the next question for you, Mica,

610
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: who was your favorite team or player growing up, favorite

611
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: team or player growing for those that don't know. For story, Ohio, Yes, yes,

612
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: where Mica grew up, which is what is that middle

613
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: southern It's northwest Ohio. Actually closest to Detroit, oh It

614
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: is Detroit than Cleveland and Cincinnati. Cincinnati's about three and

615
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: a half or whatever from the house, so you know,

616
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: we were surrounded by Indianapolis, you know, three hours or whatever.

617
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: So there was a few teams in our area. Um,

618
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: where I grew up. Ten minutes away was Ben Roethlisberger

619
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: and thirty minutes away was Charles Woodson. So I was

620
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I was a big Charles Woodson fan. As far as team,

621
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns weren't too good, Detroit wasn't too good,

622
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati wasn't too good. So I kind of just wrote

623
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: with the players and I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, Charles.

624
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: What about Was there like a what about besides football?

625
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Was there a team like baseball? Basketball, any kind of

626
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: team you gravitated the tribe? The tribe Okay, I guess

627
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: now the Guardians, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, they had some

628
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: they had some good squads when yeah, you know, oh yeah,

629
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: back in the day, the Jim Tomy, Albert, the Albert Bell,

630
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the Kenny lofton the Roberto Yeah, Roberto Alamar and his

631
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: and his brother Sandy Alamar. Yeah, this is there some

632
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: good teams. Yea, yea, all right, that's cool. Uh jt

633
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: asks who is the fastest player on offense and fastest

634
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: player on defense, and then he wants to know the

635
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: strongest player on the team. And then I'll get to

636
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: some of his other questions because he's got like five here,

637
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: wow wow, fastest player offense and okay, defense, and then

638
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the strongest player on the team, fastest play on offense.

639
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm going off GPS. Is that we that we run? Yeah,

640
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: in practice and then in uh in the games. I

641
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: think Taiwan technically is up there. You know, he's a gunner.

642
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: He's on kickoff, he's running down there. He's man. Even

643
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: at thirty four, still get a chance, you get a

644
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: chance to open it up. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if,

645
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: for example, if I'm have the highest GPS, that's not

646
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a good thing. You know, that means I'm chasing somebody.

647
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: It's not a good thing. Um. Defensively, the same thing.

648
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: Surran is always up there because special teams are running

649
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: down this gunner and kick off a chance to build up. Yeah,

650
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: you get a chance to build up. He has you know,

651
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: forty fifty yards to get going. Uh. And then the

652
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: strongest person on the team, who, Man, there's a lot

653
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of guys on the team that

654
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we what do football players in

655
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: the locker room use most as the benchmark for who's

656
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: the strongest? Are we talking up squad guy or a

657
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: bench guy like that? What determines true strength? I don't.

658
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't like that's a hard question to answer. I

659
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: really don't know. Like I would say, there's a you know,

660
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of offensive linement defensive linement that can just

661
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: throw a weight around. So I can't. I I'm not

662
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: in there to know who's the strongest um pound for pound.

663
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: You got guys like Ed that is just you know,

664
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: he might not put up the most weight, but he's

665
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: just explosive um. And you know guys like that or

666
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: are fun to watch lift. Yeah. And I mean last year,

667
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I remember when Dion came back from his second batt COVID.

668
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: He comes back out on the field. We had we

669
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: had a clip on our show and we were talking

670
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: about Dion or something, and it was one of those

671
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: field level views which I love. From the end zone

672
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: and he's coming out on a kickout and his linebackers coming.

673
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: He's got a be line on the running back and

674
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Dion literally throws him out of the camera shot and

675
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: he's over on the sideline somewhere on his back is

676
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: a Deon's a beast. Like even when you like, even

677
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: when you give him a five or something like, it

678
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: just it hurts your hand. His hand feels like it's

679
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: like fifty he got meat hooks. Yeah, it's just it's

680
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: just it's just thick, you know. And so uh yeah,

681
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: De doc Is is probably one of those guys too

682
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: that just naturally you can just and then Big Phil

683
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: would seem like a naturally another Jordan Phillips, like just

684
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: a naturally strong guy like you you picture him like

685
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: throwing bails a hey up on top of them. Yeah, yeah,

686
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just like it's nothing. I

687
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: would allow love to use him. Back in the day

688
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: when I was working on so who who wins a

689
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: chicken wing econ contest? Yeah, I'm having the other question,

690
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: same thange, I mean, same thing like it's just a

691
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: ton of guys that are Yeah, there's a ton of

692
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: guys that are in it, and a ton of guys.

693
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: I would say the number if I had to put

694
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: a number on it, UM probably into the fifties, sixties,

695
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: fifty six, yeah, sixty wings. You know who I like

696
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: in one of those? I like Spencer Brown in one

697
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: of them. Spence Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he looks like a

698
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: guy that can put it. Give him you give him

699
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: some if a few beers on the side and some wings. Yeah,

700
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna give Barbell run for the money. Yeah.

701
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: You're in there for the long haul. Yeah yeah. And

702
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: then JT finally says get healthy, stay healthy, go Bills,

703
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you. So that's cool. Um. So those are just

704
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: a few questions fired off for Micah. And you know,

705
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: I look at this game and you see a seven

706
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: and one football team in the vikings, and you can't

707
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: knock them for who's on the schedule. They got to

708
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: play who they have to play. UM one win though

709
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: against a team with a winning record of their seven victories,

710
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: And again, can't knock him for who's on their schedule.

711
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: They don't make their schedule, does that I know, you

712
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room and the coach all week

713
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: is like, you know what I mean, there's none of

714
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: that complacency crap. But I gotta believe there's a little

715
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: bit of human nature. They're like we could take these guys.

716
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: Come on, like, you know what I mean, Like I

717
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: feel like there's some of that, you know, locker room

718
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: conversations like all right, they're a good team, but like

719
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: they're not unbeatable. Come on, like, well, I think that

720
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: this year our mentality is totally different from years past.

721
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Each and every game we're we're going into it to

722
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: win it. I mean, I know we've always we've always

723
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: said that, you know, day one of ot as we're

724
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: talking about winning a super Bowl back in two eighteen,

725
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: and obviously you know you saw the result of what

726
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: the season was. But this year we mean that. So

727
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: any any week that you know, anytime we step on

728
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: that football field, we're there to win. So you know,

729
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: this is another opportunity for us. Obviously you know I

730
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: had a little hiccup last week. Um, but this is

731
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like you can't get too how, you can't

732
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: get too low. You know, you gotta bounce back. You know,

733
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: we started watching more film on Um Disappoinent, which is

734
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the vikings on Monday, and then from there you just

735
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: try to build up throughout the weekend and get a good,

736
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: good idea of what they're gonna do going into the game. So, um,

737
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: we're excited team right now, and you know, we gotta

738
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: get that sour taste out of our mouth. So what

739
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: better way to do it than it gets the seven

740
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: and one ball club? And even today, you know, nobody

741
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: knows whether Josh You're gonna play or whatever, but you know,

742
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: Case Kingdom's getting ready like he always does, give us

743
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: an idea. And I made this point because I had

744
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: to do it during my career as well. You're it

745
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: feels kind of good to rally around the guy, the backup,

746
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It kind of feels like,

747
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: let's go, yeah, you know, let's show him. Well, it's

748
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of fun to be in that mindset. Oh. I

749
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: think it's cool for a Case because I've seen, you know,

750
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: when you're a backup quarterback, obviously somebody like Josh Allen,

751
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, you're not competing for the starting job, and

752
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: Josh is just going out there throwing touchdown's left in right.

753
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: And then when something like this happens, you know, Case

754
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: steps in and I saw his I'm in the song

755
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: with him the other day, and I saw his mentality shift,

756
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, like he's not he's he's not joking as

757
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: much this week, and you know obviously it's it's locked in.

758
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: He's locked in. So it's cool to see because you know,

759
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: with the backup quarterbacks and even like anybody that's as

760
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: it plays a backup role, which I used to be

761
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: there when someone goes out, you know, your mentality just shifts,

762
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: and you know, like you gotta step in. You gotta

763
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: play your role, and you got to, you know, try

764
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: to help offense, defense, bush teams, whatever it may be. So,

765
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: um you know, we have one hundred trust in in

766
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: Case and what he's been the league a long time

767
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do. So um here

768
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: has a bunch of weapons around him, so all he

769
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: has does is be himself. I heard you may know this,

770
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: but I heard Sal talking about this this morning earlier.

771
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: Case Keenum is the most prolific college passer in n

772
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: nineteen thousand passing yards nobody he played a history of

773
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: the game, He played five years, but nobody in the

774
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: history of the game through from more yards than case

775
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Keenum did in college. But even if you take that's impressive, right,

776
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't. If I was in him, i'd be I'd

777
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: have a time, right. They had some crazy offenses back

778
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: then Hawaii with Mouse Davis and then he was at Houston, Hey,

779
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: and they were throwing the ball. Those teams were throwing

780
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: the ball all over the place. Yeah, I mean, it's

781
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: it's obviously a different type of touchdown. Um you mentioned,

782
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, just going out and expecting to win in

783
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: the mindset and all of that. I think for fans

784
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, they grip when they

785
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: look at the standings because it's a race. Now. You

786
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: guys are at the top of it right now, and

787
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: thankfully you have critical conference wins over Tennessee, Kansas City,

788
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: and Baltimore, who are all division leaders, respectively along with

789
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: you guys. But they see and two in the division

790
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: and fans are like, oh my god. But it's like,

791
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: you got four division games left, three of them are

792
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: at home, so there's plenty of ground. Do you guys

793
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: like this playoff picture stuff? I gotta imagine you guys

794
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: got tunnel vision. Your head's down and you're just worried

795
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: about the next game. You're not even looking at this stuff.

796
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Just focus on the next game and then pick your

797
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: head up at the end of the season kind of

798
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: thing and see where you're at. Is that kind of

799
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: what it is. That's one thousand percent what it is.

800
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: And it's if you get caught up in all the

801
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: playoff picture. You know, I think it's what week ten

802
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, if you get caught up in all that,

803
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: it's just going to be a disaster down the road.

804
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Like you really have to focus. And I think the

805
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: best players in this league are able to just focus

806
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: on the task in front of them, Like we have

807
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings this week. This is what they do. You

808
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: don't worry about uh And And I can honestly say,

809
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: like earlier in my career, I was I was a

810
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: little bit liked that. I would I would look ahead.

811
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: I would you know, my buddies are coming next week

812
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: to next next week's home game, or you know Thanksgiving

813
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: game is going to be crazier. You know, we played

814
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: the day before Christmas and we got to travel to Chicago.

815
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, all this type of stuff that just runs

816
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: through your mind. And and I've realized that, you know,

817
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: obviously being the league a long time and the best

818
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: guys in this league, the most elite players, just focus

819
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: on the day. What do you have to do today

820
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: to get better? And you know, we can't live in

821
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: the outside world of being up and down. You know,

822
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: we lost last week, we got to dread about it,

823
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: and you gotta go out here this week and it's

824
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: a must win all that, and like we don't think

825
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: like that, Like it's totally different. We try to get

826
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: better each day and um, you know, come Sunday, be

827
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: playing your best. I've made the point a couple of

828
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: times over the years that it's easier for players and

829
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: coaches and guys, for you guys to put that behind

830
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: you because you got you got the Vikings this week.

831
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: You can't think about the Jets now you got We're

832
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: getting ready for these guys fans and they're out there

833
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: stewing about Zach Wilson and stuff. You know, we can't

834
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: they can't get it out of their minds because they ain't.

835
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: They don't they're not working actively, working towards the next one. Well,

836
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: the thing is like, okay, so for example, for me,

837
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: like this is year ten and whatever, how many games

838
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: that's been. But like you literally have to after the

839
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: game's over, you shut it down and you think about

840
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: the next thing. So like, you know, even even my

841
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: wife might get a little frustrated with me every now

842
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: and then because she wants to talk about something and

843
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: we resolve it the next day, and then I'm done

844
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: thinking about it. You know, That's just the way my

845
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Speaker 1: mind works. I just I'm onto the next the next task,

846
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: and um, you know I want to try to be,

847
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, a better player after that. I guess. Yeah.

848
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Cool stuff. Man. All right, Well, look, thanks for seeing

849
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Speaker 1: hopping in. We'll catch up with you again next Friday.

850
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, keep giving those young safety some pointers

851
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: on the back end, because we know you still see

852
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: some stuff that maybe they haven't seen yet, So keep

853
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: schooling them up. All right, we'll do. All right. That's

854
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Micah Hide joining us here on Nothing to Hide. We'll

855
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: take a break, be back with more here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gents, it is time for Tailgate Friday,

858
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: presented by high Mark, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Western

859
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: New York, the official health killer plan of the Buffalo Bills,

860
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: as we peruse your menu items for tailgating on Sunday,

861
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: and let me just tell you you better layer up

862
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: because the weather is changing fast. This may even be

863
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: a little lake effects snow in the fourcas so we'll

864
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: see how windy it is and all of that jazz.

865
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: But first up on the tailgate Friday tweet sheet Bill says,

866
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Sunday sounds like a lasagna Sunday. And I'm just gonna

867
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: tell you I am on board. There is something, and

868
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: thankfully I am. I am married to a one Italian woman.

869
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: There is something about coming home from a game, cold game,

870
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: and you come into the house and it smells like sauce.

871
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how welcoming and comforting it is.

872
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: It's like curling yourself up in a giant blanket in

873
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: front of a fire. That's what when you smell sauce

874
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: on the stove. Oh my god, so cool. Lasagna, Yes,

875
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: unequivocally yes, preferably beef lasagna. To me, chez lag is

876
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: like a waste of time. There's gotta be beef layered

877
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: in there. Oh yeah. Or Italian sausage. Well, yes, well

878
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: any kind of meat, but yes. JB. Driving up from

879
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati for the weekend with the family, can't wait to

880
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: be back at the stadium. He calls it the Ralph says,

881
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: he's always going to call it that wings. Take the

882
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: kids swimming at the hotel, head up to the Falls,

883
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: tailgate on Sunday, and bring home the wind. So it

884
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: sounds like he's just piling it and bucket of wings

885
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: in the back of the car. Let's go. Yeah, it's

886
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: a common it's a common play. It sounds like he's

887
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a routine going because you

888
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: know the kids swimming at the they know the hotel,

889
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: they head up the fall, up in the Falls, got

890
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: a tailgate plan that this is that strikes me as

891
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: a JB. As a veteran. Even though he's driving up

892
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: for the weekend, that's about seven eight hour drive from

893
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's it is not across the streets kipping a jump.

894
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of routines from hot In Arizona is lamenting the

895
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: fact that he or she did not stick to their routine.

896
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: They're going with wings this week and from hot In Arizona, says,

897
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I hold the burden of the loss last week. I

898
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: always make wings on game day, and last week I

899
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: did not. Sorry, it won't happen again. Listen, If you're

900
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna you gotta stick to the process. People, you gotta

901
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: stick to the process, and you gotta trust it own it.

902
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: Just trust the process. You can't beat Yeah, I mean

903
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: that's a big diversion. If you make wings every week

904
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: and then you don't, what do you think is gonna happen.

905
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna give Hot in Arizona break here.

906
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: As big a fan as you are Hot in Arizona,

907
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: you don't carry that much influence on the outcome of

908
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: the game. Don't beat yourself up for not making wings

909
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: last week. It's your fault. If you feel better about

910
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: making them this week and believe it will enhance their

911
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: chances by all means, go for it. But do not

912
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: beat yourself up for last week's game. Hot in Arizona,

913
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: you stink can't do that. Josh on the Tailgate Friday tweet,

914
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Cheet says, I'm cooking up an elbow for Poyer and

915
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: an elbow for Alan. Are we talking about elbow noodles here?

916
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: Like in mac and Cheese? Yeah? Or yeah, or mac

917
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: salen or such a thing as a pig elbow or

918
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: something like that. Oh is there? I don't know, I'm asking.

919
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't Pigs don't even have elbows, well technically, but

920
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: they don't call them elbows. It's called a thing. I

921
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: don't know what is it called. I don't know. They

922
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: don't even have arms. They can't have elbows. How do

923
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: pigs have elbows? They don't have elbow? It depends on

924
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: what that thing right behind their shoulder, the top of

925
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: their above there was it a hock above their like

926
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: ham hocks. Isn't a hammo? Is it just below the elbow? Now?

927
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Hold on a second. So pigs four legs? Do they

928
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: have a forward bending knee? The I know the back

929
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: legs have a backward bending it's the bottom of the

930
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: above the hoof. They have a back It goes like

931
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: it's more like bog goes backwards. It's like a human knee.

932
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: It bends the same way. Yeah, But although I don't

933
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: think it's like a human knee at the bottom, well, no,

934
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: probably is because they don't go like. It's not like

935
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: your wrist where you can go round and around. It

936
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: only goes one direction. Yeah, it's like it's like a

937
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: human would be the knee, not an elbow, but because

938
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: it's a leg, it would be more like, yeah, okay,

939
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: that would be a knee, not a wrist. I did

940
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: say a risk. You're arguing elbow, well, not an elbow.

941
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: All I was asking was is there anything that's called

942
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: like an elbow pasta. Here's the problem. Steve likes pig

943
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: so much he was he was trying to turn a

944
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: pasta comment into a pig is the pinnacle of the

945
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: met It is at the top of the pyramid. I

946
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: do not debate that. So second, yes, we will agree

947
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: on that. I'm gonna I'm gonna research pig elbow and

948
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: I'll get back to you. I dare you to look

949
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: that up on the internet. I'd love to see what

950
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: comes up for that. Do that while I'm doing jack

951
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: submission from the tailgate here, Friday tweets you, I'm very

952
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: curious to see what you come up with. But Jack says,

953
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: bringing the flat top and the camping of into the

954
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: lot this week going with French, He's this is a

955
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Jack is our French onion soup. Guy French onion soup

956
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: with greair and grilling up some Texas toast and Delhi

957
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: rye paninis with garlic, butter sharp cheddar and munster cheeses,

958
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: bacon and or ham, and grilled red onions. Now, I

959
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: will say this, red onions are horribly underrated. They are

960
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: a fantastic addition to just about any dish. But praying

961
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: the defense balls out for a big w I think

962
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: they'll need to do that, especially if Keenom's the one

963
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: playing wire to wire. But Jack is the guy that

964
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: submits all the all the artery clogging goodness you can

965
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: possibly pack into a tailgate. If you're going to tailgate, yeah,

966
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: there's no knees and there's no reason to you know,

967
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: do the vegan thing. Well right, you're not that. There's

968
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Sailgate is your cheat dah, exactly,

969
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: it's your cheat day. That's Sailgate is your cheat day,

970
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: no question, just fat, starch and carbo day. That's right. Um,

971
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: he's like garlic, butter sharp cheddar and munster cheeses then bacon.

972
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: R He's going with the saltiest cured meats you can find,

973
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: along with more cheese and butter than you could shake

974
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: a stick at. I mean, I count on Jack every

975
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: week for these artery clogging recipes because they're fantastic. What

976
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: did what did you come up with for pig elbow's?

977
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Elbow is a it's an Irish style dry gin for

978
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: one thing, and it's yeah, it's it's a it's a brand.

979
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: It's not even a food, it's a beverage. Well, yeah,

980
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: it's a So there's that. What Now, a hawk is

981
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the joint on the rear though, Okay, it's a hawk

982
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: ham hawk on the rear of the pig, it says, yes,

983
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: it's Sometimes they're called ham hawks or pork knuckles. They're

984
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: adjacent to the shank. Okay, whatever. I think we're learning

985
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: way too much about pig parts there. But I don't

986
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: see pig elbow in there anywhere. No, So no, I

987
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: think we'll go with elbow pasta and call it a day.

988
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well I didn't know, Yeah, Well, well now

989
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: we do. And then and you know, you can learn

990
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: we provide educational value on the show, and you know,

991
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: if we can pass it along all the better. Just

992
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: made a question and I just had a question, and

993
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: well there you go that Yes, the answer took us

994
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole. Sorry, or a pig hole in

995
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: this case, Tailgate Friday, as we said, presented by high

996
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Mark Blue Cross Blue Shield to Western New York, the

997
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. We take a

998
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back. It is the man

999
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: that you see in the second hour of every Friday

1000
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: edition of One Bill's Live during the regular season, Greg

1001
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: co Sell, senior producer from NFL Films, Come in your

1002
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: way to talk x's and Oh's next for Bill's vikings.

1003
00:51:36,239 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Stay tuned the One Bills Live presented by it called

1004
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: Light a Health. Welcome to our number two on a Friday.

1005
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Lives the show.

1006
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: Please to be joined now as we are every week

1007
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: at this time by NFL film Senior producer and co

1008
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show One, Greg Cosell joining

1009
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: us his weekly segment presented by Scott lawn Yard, an

1010
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: official commercial sight work partner of the Buffalo Bills. Greg

1011
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: looking good and that Bill's read there, nicely done. Hey,

1012
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys man. I got it yesterday. I

1013
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: said I'm wearing it today for the show without question. Yeah,

1014
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: you go awesome. You look good in it a bright

1015
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: red there you go, strong, we got all the good

1016
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: and something Steve, you know, I don't know what that

1017
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: that is a run game. That's a run game. Color baby,

1018
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: what you're expecting this week? See if Case Keenum is

1019
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: in fact the start, maybe yeah, why don't why don't

1020
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: we begin with you know, the Bills, Greg, You know

1021
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen Skill said is obviously, you know, we

1022
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: know if Case Keenum has to start on Sunday that

1023
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: while the play calls are all going to be the

1024
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: same in terms of terminology, what Ken Dorsey is going

1025
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: to be calling for Case Keenum figures to be in

1026
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: stark contrast to that of Josh Allen, Right, I would

1027
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: say to some degree. I mean, Brownie, there's a lot

1028
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: of quick game rhythm throws in the Bill's offense, right,

1029
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: and that's you know, Keenham can do that without question.

1030
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks can m you know, obviously there's certain things

1031
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: that they would not call, and there's certain plays that

1032
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen will make that obviously very few guys in

1033
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: the league can make. So certainly Keenham cannot make them.

1034
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: But a couple of couple of thoughts, you know, Keenom's

1035
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: played in this league and he's been efficient. You know,

1036
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: he had the season when they lost to the Eagles

1037
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship Game, the year the Eagles won

1038
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl where he was pretty much the starter

1039
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: and played well. He's not immobile, He's not a statue.

1040
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: He just obviously, again I'm not saying anything profound, doesn't

1041
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: have the skill set of Josh if you do, if any,

1042
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: But I think in terms of calling the game, I'm

1043
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: really curious to see what they do, as as I'm

1044
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: sure you guys are. If in fact, you know Case

1045
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: Keenum would be the starter, you know, I guess the

1046
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: big question would be would they perhaps increase the run

1047
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: game volume. I don't know the answer to that. We'll see,

1048
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think they would dramatically change, Like they're

1049
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: not going to change the concepts in the past game.

1050
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of what you call it. Is

1051
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: there nothing in the passing game of the Bills. Say,

1052
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: for instance, Greg, you would call the exact same play

1053
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: for Case Keenum, but he would just have the ability

1054
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: to make different choices within that concept. He would take

1055
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: the check down, he would take the underneath stuff. He

1056
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: would look the safeties off for the deep route. They'd

1057
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: have to honor it because they got guys running out

1058
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: there and he could just take an easier throw. Is

1059
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: there some of that that's going to go on or

1060
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: is that predominantly what they would do? Yeah, I mean,

1061
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: obviously Josh being a you know, an aggressive thrower and

1062
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: capable of big time throws down the field. Keenom's not

1063
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: capable of that. But like you said, Steve, it doesn't

1064
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: mean you can't call the same routes because you know,

1065
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: unless you're calling, you know, a true shot play where

1066
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: there's just let's say two vertical type routes, most of

1067
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: the time you're going to have a shorter throw involved

1068
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: in a route concept. So you can call some of

1069
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: the same things, you know, I think I think it

1070
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: because Josh is so physically gifted and can obviously throw

1071
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: the ball deep down the field. I mean that throw

1072
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: he made after the injury, you know, that may have

1073
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: been the best throw of the season. It would just

1074
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: happening to being complete, you know. But you know, obviously

1075
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: case Keenum can't do that. But I still think you

1076
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: can run you know, kind of an efficient passing game,

1077
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: which is kind of what the Bills have evolved and

1078
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: morphed into for the most part. Anyway, let's talk a

1079
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: little bit about that Vikings defense. That the Bill's offense

1080
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: will be facing pretty good in terms of pressure rate

1081
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: only rushing four. That's not to say they won't splitz occasionally.

1082
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: But Zadarius Smith and Daniel Hunter. I think Daniel Hunter

1083
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: is finally getting a feel for their new three four

1084
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: front and Zadarius Smith is wholly familiar with that. But

1085
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: last three games, Greg, these guys have combined for eight

1086
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: sacks and sixteen quarterback hits. And if you watch last

1087
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: week's game against Washington, I mean they were collapsing the

1088
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: pocket with alarming regularity. Well, this is Ed donatell and

1089
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: Ed donatell is from the vic fan Joe school, So

1090
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of split safety coverage. You see

1091
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: form and pressures, and they have really good length up front.

1092
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned two, I would add DJ want him to

1093
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: that mix. He's another long, athletic pass rusher, and as

1094
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, they move people around quite a bit. So

1095
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: you end up with Zadarius Smith lining up as a

1096
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: stand up zero technique head up over the center. You

1097
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: see him lining up over guards, you see the same

1098
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: with Hunter at times, you see the same with one

1099
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: of them. Even Patrick Jones, the second year player from

1100
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: the University of Pittsburgh, will do that at times. And

1101
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: they've got two veteran linebackers and Hicks and Kendricks who

1102
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: are very smart, savvy players. And then they've got Harrison Smith,

1103
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: another veteran safety. So you know, this is a this

1104
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: is a defense with good people. You call it more

1105
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: of an execution defense than a highly scheme defense, although

1106
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: as I said, they do have multiple front alignments. That's

1107
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: probably where the scheming comes into play more. But they're

1108
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: not a high percentage pressure defense in terms of sending

1109
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: five or six rushers. They do when they go into

1110
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: the secondary. They've got Cameron Danzler and Patrick Peterson, and

1111
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: they've got some guys back there. Certainly Peterson is a

1112
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: little bit past his prime, is still an e lead athlete,

1113
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: or at least was at one point. How does their

1114
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: secondary compliment their front, Well, if you're going to play

1115
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: a lot of zone, which they play more zone than man,

1116
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: although it's not a static zone because it's from the

1117
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: VIC Fanjoe school, where you know what you see pre

1118
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: snap is not often what you get after the snap.

1119
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: So I don't want to make it seem like, hey,

1120
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: they just line up in basic zone and it's easy.

1121
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: But I think when you play the way they do,

1122
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: you're a lying on your pass rush, and they've been

1123
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: able to get pass rush with four. That's the critical

1124
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: piece because it's a numbers game. If you can rush

1125
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: with four UF seven and coverage, and you can do

1126
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things on your back end with sort

1127
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: of hybrid zone man looks, matchup, Prince supples as you know, Steve,

1128
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things with seven. You

1129
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: start having to rush five, then you have six, and

1130
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: it changes the numbers dynamic. But all this is a

1131
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: numbers game. If they you can play coverage with seven,

1132
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: you really have a lot of options, and they've been

1133
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: mostly able to do that. Flipping it around to their offense,

1134
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins has been efficient, if not spectacular.

1135
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm interested in some of the numbers that have come

1136
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: out of his play this year. Chief among them all

1137
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: six of his interceptions coming on downfield throws. I realize

1138
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: that he's very much buy the book quarterback. You know,

1139
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: whatever the play is, he's going to execute the play

1140
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: with very little improvisation. It seems like the only guy

1141
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: he gives extra chances to our jeff is Jefferson, and

1142
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: with good reason. But he gets victimized last week on

1143
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: a downfield throw into the end zone corner route to

1144
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: Jefferson kind of puts up a fifty fifty ball and

1145
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: it gets picked. What do we do we pull anything

1146
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: away from that? Is there enough of a sample size

1147
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: with six picks all on downfield throws with him? I mean,

1148
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what that means, Brownie. You know,

1149
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it though in describing what he is.

1150
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I think this is an offense that's still trying to

1151
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: get its sea legs with the new head coach, Kevin O'Connell,

1152
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: and obviously he put in a new scheme. You know,

1153
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: a year ago, the Vikings were one of the heaviest

1154
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: percentage wise team that played with a fullback. Now they

1155
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: are among the league leaders in eleven personnel because that's

1156
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: where Kevin O'Connell's background is with the Rams. So this

1157
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: is an eleven personnel offense. I have to tell you,

1158
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: I think one of the most overlooked trades at the

1159
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: trading deadline was t J Hockinson, because I think T. J.

1160
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Hockinson from a talent standpoint, is a top three or

1161
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: four tight end in this league. And I remember doing

1162
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: him coming out of Iowa, and I did not have

1163
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: anything typed in my weakness column. You know, I think

1164
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: this guy is a really, really good player. For whatever reason,

1165
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: it didn't work out in Detroit in terms of volume targets.

1166
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: But he comes in last week has nine targets and

1167
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: nine catches, and I think he's going to become their

1168
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: number two target receiver behind Jefferson. He's really gifted. He's

1169
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: a really good athlete, and he's a really good inline

1170
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: blocker as well. And we know that the offense primarily

1171
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: starts with Dalvin Cook in the run game, right, and

1172
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: if this Viking offense, I mean, we've talked about Kirk

1173
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Cousins about how he's a little bit of a and

1174
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: this is why he's been successful too. He understands the

1175
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: offense and runs it. Yeah, and it's always designed to

1176
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: be successful. And the guy he rarely goes off script.

1177
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: And even in the touchdown he had last week, he

1178
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: went to his third option in the back of the

1179
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: end zone, looked right, looked back left, then came and

1180
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: caught them tight end across the middle. Just almost robotic

1181
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: in his ability to hang in there, go through his

1182
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: progressions and then make the right read. How does this offense,

1183
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: in his balance of run pass play into his ability

1184
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: just to stay within the lines. Yeah, I mean he's

1185
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback now, Steve, if you know that,

1186
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people say is kind of becoming a

1187
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: little bit of a dinosaur in the league, that he's

1188
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: not the guy you want. You know, let's say if

1189
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: you're drafting a quarterback, because he's he's your pure executor

1190
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: and ball distributor. That's exactly what Kirk Cousins is. You know,

1191
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: the offense has to work, he knows where to go

1192
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: with the ball. He'll stand and deliver. As you said,

1193
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: he's not really going to make second reaction plays. He

1194
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: does that once in a great while, but that's not

1195
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: his game. So he's kind of, you know, an old

1196
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: school executor and ball distributor. But they have a lot

1197
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: of weapons, and you know, the key obviously is pressure.

1198
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: If you can get pressure on him, then you can

1199
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: obviously make him play a little faster. And you know

1200
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are pocket players, you know, they don't want

1201
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: to play that way. Obviously, he doesn't necessarily move within

1202
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: the pocket grade either. He's kind of a guy that it,

1203
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: he sees it, he reads it, he knows where to

1204
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: go with the ball. He's your classic case of he

1205
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: throws it to the right receiver at the right time,

1206
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: with the right kind of throw. That's exactly what Kirk

1207
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Cousins is, all right. So now justin Jefferson, obviously, is

1208
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, concern number one in the passing game from

1209
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: Bill's defense, How have most of the opponents played him?

1210
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: Have they gone bracket coverage with him and then just

1211
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: worry about everybody else in matchup ways? Or has it

1212
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: been a mixed bag through the course of the first

1213
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: eight games. Is there is there a blueprint for Jefferson?

1214
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm asking. No, And there's never

1215
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: a blueprint for great players, you know, because otherwise everybody

1216
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: would do the same thing and they'd stop him. So

1217
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I've never been Browning a blueprint guy,

1218
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: because there's always games where great players get shut down

1219
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: and people think that, oh, that's what you have to

1220
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: do every single week, and it never quite works that way.

1221
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: He lines up both inside and outside. They move him around.

1222
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: Are there are times people bracket him? Absolutely? Are there

1223
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: times they double him? Sure, but they move him around

1224
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: as we're seeing right here. You know, it's not that

1225
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: easy just to say we're gonna do this on every play. Plus,

1226
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, they have a pretty multiple offense in terms

1227
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: of their concepts, so there's other good players. You know,

1228
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Theeland is not exactly what he was three or four

1229
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: years ago, but he's a pretty good player. And now,

1230
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: and by the way, their third receiver Osborne, you guys

1231
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: may remember him because he started at the University of

1232
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo before his last year at the University of Miami.

1233
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good receiver too. He's a really good three.

1234
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: His target share will probably drop because of Hockinson, but

1235
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: he is not a bad receiver at all. And now

1236
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: you add Hockinson to the mix, Brownie, there's not you

1237
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: can't just say, okay, let's just take away Jefferson and

1238
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: we shut everybody down. Let's talk about the guys up front,

1239
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. They're gonna go in. Rousseau is probably

1240
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: is out, has been ruled out of this game. You

1241
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: got Von Miller, and it's gonna be either Shack Lawson

1242
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: or a Japanessa one of those the usual suspects, you know,

1243
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of matchup do a matchup analysis of their offensive

1244
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: line against the pass rush of the Bills. I like

1245
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: their old line. I think it's a young group that's

1246
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: only going to ascend. When Darasau came out last year,

1247
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the best left tackle

1248
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: prospects in the draft. In fact, I didn't think there

1249
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: was a significant difference between him and Penny Sewell, so

1250
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's played well based on

1251
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: my tape, it's a young group. They start the rookie

1252
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: from LSU, another player I really liked this year on

1253
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: tape at Ingram. He's had his ups and downs, for sure,

1254
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: but I think he's going to be a good player.

1255
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland is a young player as well. He's the other guard.

1256
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: And then they got O'Neill at tackle, the right tackle,

1257
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: and he's a solid veteran. I think the weak link

1258
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: is at center. Um. I don't think he's a really

1259
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Speaker 1: good player, you know, I wouldn't say he's a step

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Speaker 1: but I think that's the weak link. But I think

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Speaker 1: this is an old line that is getting better and better. Steve,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think it's a pretty solid group.

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Speaker 1: What do we I mean, what do we make of

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Speaker 1: the Vikings ability to win six consecutive one score games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like they're getting the plays

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Speaker 1: when they absolutely have to have them. But then you

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Speaker 1: watch some of these games, Greg, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: where the heck was that the first three quarters? Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Washington game is a perfect example. You know,

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Speaker 1: they come out for the first drive, march right down

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Speaker 1: the field, touchdown, then they punt the ball like the

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Speaker 1: next five times in a row, and then rally at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game. Can you put your finger

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Speaker 1: on what it is? Because there seemed to be these

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Speaker 1: long lulls in play from them, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's finish the game, and then they do.

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Speaker 1: The short answer to your question would be, no, I

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Speaker 1: can't put my finger on. If I try too, i'd

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Speaker 1: be lying. You know, I really don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that, other than the fact that I think that

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Speaker 1: they're still, as I said earlier, still working through having

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Speaker 1: a feel for Kevin O'Connell's offense. And when you're working

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: through a no offense, the tendency is you have stretches

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: where the execution just isn't there. And also the one

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Speaker 1: thing I would say, I don't think their run game

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Speaker 1: has been quite as consistent as they would like. I

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: think Dalvin Cook is a terrific back, but with the

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Speaker 1: exception of a few runs, it hasn't quite been I

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Speaker 1: think what they want from a sustaining basis. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. You know, when Cook is is going well, sure,

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Speaker 1: is he capable of breaking a sixty yard touchdown, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But I think when he's going well, he's such a

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Speaker 1: high velocity runner that he gets seven eight yards and

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Speaker 1: that changes the whole dynamic of your offense when it's

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Speaker 1: second and two versus second and nine. Yeah, it seems

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Speaker 1: as though, and I'm with you, the numbers, they look

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Speaker 1: like they can run it pretty well. And even when

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Speaker 1: you look at Dalvin Cook, one hundred and thirty one

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Speaker 1: carries six hundred and eight yards. But it's a little spotty,

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01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a roller coaster. Sometimes

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01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: it looks like really like bland and then other times

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: like he snapped off a big run this last week.

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: So um, you're it's it's feast or fam And I

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: guess is a better way to describe it. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he's a really really good back. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's I've always used the term with him velocity.

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: He's a velocity runner. You know, it's predominantly zoned. And

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 1: when he can see something, when he can see the

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: cracker or the hole at the first level, he gets

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Speaker 1: through that in a hurry with speed. And he's he's

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Speaker 1: kind of physical. Even though he's not a big big man,

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Speaker 1: he's not small. He's probably two ten, so he's not tiny,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he runs hard. Uh and and he's

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Speaker 1: a tough guy to bring down because of that speed

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Speaker 1: in velocity. All right, So greg um just kind of

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Speaker 1: looking at the division race, the conference race here in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. It is tightly packed, as you know, Um

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Speaker 1: the bills, you know, you say, oh, it's an NFC opponent.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you can't have Josh this week, it's

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Speaker 1: not catastrophic if you lose it, because it's not a

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Speaker 1: conference loss per se. But this thing's getting tight here.

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of anticipating a little bit of topsy Turvynus

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Speaker 1: over the next few weeks because it is so tightly packed.

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: One loss, one win. I mean, for example, if the

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Speaker 1: Bills can't pull this game out this week and the

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Speaker 1: Jets are Miami win, Buffalo goes from the one seed

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Speaker 1: to the five seed in a hurry. Yeah, I know,

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean last week's loss was a tough one for

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: that reason. You know, there's a lot of football to

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: be played. Obviously, the big question is, Josh, they'll keep

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: it close to the vest. You know, it is the

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: kind of injury where it can be a long term

1333
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: injury too, So we just don't know at this point.

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Speaker 1: You know, and look, you're in the building, but you

1335
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: know how Sean is, He's he's not the kind of

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: guy that just is overly transparent about this kind of stuff.

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: So we really don't know. But you know, we hope

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: if he does miss this week that it's one game

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: and he can come back the next week. But you're

1340
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: right about that, Brownie. I mean, you know, it's the

1341
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: AFC is very, very good. There's there's a lot of

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01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: teams that can beat you in any given week, and

1343
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: we saw that with the Bills in the Jets. Yeah,

1344
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about it all week about there's

1345
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: nine teams that have five wins or more and nobody's

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: got more than six. Yeah, and the AFC, so it's

1347
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: it's a horse race and there's it's gonna be hard,

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down. I think for the first time

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01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: in a long time, it looks like it's gonna come

1350
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: down to a number of tie breakers. They may have

1351
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: to go deeper than they've gone in recent in recent

1352
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: memory to get that last seven five six seven seed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll leave that to the people that know that stuff. Well.

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: It's funny, Steve, when we get to the end of

1355
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: the year and people ask me about that stuff, I

1356
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: just say, I just wait till they tell me. I

1357
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: never try to figure that stuff out. Well, and the

1358
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: problem is we've got two teams the AFC that got

1359
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: to have a tie and that is right. That is

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01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: Oh my guys, that is an absolute wrench in the works.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, real quick, Greg, that I wanted to mention

1362
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Speaker 1: that I forgot to ask you about the Minnesota defense

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01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: last in the league in red zone touchdown efficiency. They're

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Speaker 1: giving up touchdowns in their red zone at almost eighty

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: percent clip now. They've allowed the fewest red zone possessions

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: to their opponent in the league, so they're not getting

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Speaker 1: down there often, but when they do, they're giving up yardage.

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Speaker 1: And I mean they're allowing teams to run down there

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: at a rate of three point seven eight yards per carry.

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: That's a full yard over the league average. They probably

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Speaker 1: are not going to have Dalvin Tomlinson again this week.

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Speaker 1: Who's got a calf injury? I guess whether it's whether

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: it's Keenum or whether it's Alan. Can the Bills make

1374
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: some hay down there if they can get inside the money.

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: They've struggled the Bills with their red zone offense for

1376
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: basically two years now, so you know, when they're not

1377
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: a team that normally lines up and tries to bang

1378
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: it in, you know, it's when they get into the

1379
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: red zone. So i'd be it brings us back to

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Speaker 1: our initial thoughts here about what the Bills. What's the

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: Bills offense going to look like? If it's case Keenum,

1382
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: is there going to be more volume in the run game?

1383
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: Are they going to try to play that way knowing that, hey,

1384
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: maybe they can't put up thirty this week against a

1385
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: really solid defense overall? You know, is this the kind

1386
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: of game that you have to play a little more

1387
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: old school brownie? You know, try to I don't want

1388
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: to say, you know, eat clock, but I mean, you know,

1389
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: try to have a more balanced offense. You know, James

1390
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: Cook seemingly has been getting a few more snaps, you

1391
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: know in recent weeks. Is this a week where he

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: gets you know a few more snaps in the run game,

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, because he does bring more explosiveness to the

1394
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: table than Singletary, right, And it's also we're now that

1395
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: he's been acclimated Naheim Hines. Maybe an option as well.

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: Both those guys, both those guys have breakaway speed and

1397
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 1: that changes the equation. Certainly, they're more explosive than Singletary.

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: And we've seen it right from the get go when

1399
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 1: nahem Hinz showed up. That guy can run routes like

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: a chant y'all. He's so he's are really I mean,

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01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: they've got two backs who are really good receivers. Now

1402
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: when Heinzen Cook, right, So maybe in with a quarterback

1403
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: that has the skill set of Case Keenum, maybe it

1404
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 1: take that out of the Maybe you take that offensive

1405
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: or that aspect of your offense out of the rapper

1406
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: and use it. Yeah, I mean, you know, my sense

1407
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: is with Case there's probably a little more scheming involved

1408
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: in the sense that you're going to try to define

1409
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: reads and throws for him, whereas with Josh, not that

1410
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, but you kind of

1411
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: know that he can make some throws that others can't. Right,

1412
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: all right, Greig, thanks for chopping it up with us.

1413
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate it. Thanks so much. You look

1415
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: good in that sweatshirt. That senior producer from NFL Films,

1416
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: Greg Cosal, wearing his red Bill sweatshirt this week that

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01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: we sent to him because I was wearing one. He's like, hey,

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: I like that. Can I get one of those? All right, Well,

1419
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: we can accommodate you to help us out every week.

1420
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, better wearing it now. He's got to wear

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: every week now right, I mean he's got to like

1422
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: put it off. He wore it today. If the Bills

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01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: went on Sunday, he has to wear it next week. Yes,

1424
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: by rule, that's right, trust the process. By rule, he

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: would have to wear it next week. So hopefully it

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Speaker 1: is a lucky sweatshirt because, as we said, that conference

1427
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: race is a real thing, and even though you're playing

1428
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: an NFC opponent this week, getting win number seven would

1429
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: be we in Portante. We have to take a break.

1430
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: When we come back. We got some other stuff in

1431
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: the hopper for you. Coming up here at two thirty

1432
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: might have a little time for some NFL true falls,

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: but plenty more coming your way, including the mail bag

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: when we return here. On one Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Raiding. Hey want to join

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen on Kyle Brandt's Basement through the month in November.

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Speaker 1: Josh on Kyle's podcast sometime in December. And don't forget,

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Speaker 1: proceeds from Bills Mafia's sauces and rubs go directly to

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Speaker 1: the Patricia Allen Fund at O'shi Children's Hospital. Steve I

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Speaker 1: did also want to mention I've got a pretty good

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Speaker 1: Bills by the Numbers podcast up and out right now,

1444
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 1: as we took a headlong dive into the record number

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Speaker 1: of close games in the NFL this season and why

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: the heck that is and Minnesota has been in the

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: thick of it six of their six all six games

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Speaker 1: of their six game winning streak by one score or less.

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Speaker 1: So go to any podcast platform that you use, just

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Speaker 1: type in the search window Bills by the Numbers and

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Speaker 1: you'll get me and Steve in all its glory talking

1452
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: about that stuff. Steve playing the Numbers Game. Did pretty

1453
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: well in the Numbers Game this week. Gotta give it

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: to you. Just lots of good stuff packed in there.

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Speaker 1: A little bit different from our daily show one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: So check it out when you get a chance. Bills

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Speaker 1: by the Numbers on any of your podcast platforms. Steve.

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: We have to dive into the OBL Friday fan mail

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: bag and we begin with Rick, who says, if Josh

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01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: sits this week, wouldn't it make more sense to start

1461
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley instead of case Keenum. Matt has more experience

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,879
Speaker 1: running this offense and has more playing time with the offense.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to that, case Keenom's better. I

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Speaker 1: mean they had a contest, you know, right, there's a

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: reason he's the backup. Basically, they had a contest and

1466
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: Case one that's why he gets to play. That's that's

1467
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: the way it works. Sorry, Yeah, I mean, I mean

1468
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 1: I understand. You know, that should give you some confidence.

1469
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: If you think Matt Barkley can run it, what do

1470
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: you think case Keenom can do? Because they watched him

1471
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: do it every day. Um, yeah, I respect the experienced angle.

1472
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: They didn't, but they believe Keenan puts them in a

1473
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: better position to win if he has to play. Yeah,

1474
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: they're not. They don't just pick these guys. It's not arbitrary. Yeah,

1475
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: it's not arbitrary. They earn it. And they're watching every

1476
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: snap a practice film, training camp film, and they did film. Yeah,

1477
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: and they did it all they've done, been doing it

1478
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: since May. So yeah, that they're in the pecking order.

1479
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: They're in for reason. It's not just you know, wrote

1480
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: just yeah. They decide because of their play and nothing else.

1481
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: So no, I don't think that Rachel from the mail

1482
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: Bag asks is Dean Marlow ready to start yet? I

1483
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: feel like he might be a step up from Jaquan

1484
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: Johnson at this point. Um maybe, I mean, maybe we'll

1485
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: see there. I mean, they brought him in for a reason.

1486
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: They feel like they can help him. Of course, with

1487
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: Poiler being in and out of the lineup, with injury,

1488
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: out again this week, out again this week for the

1489
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: fourth time, and they don't have Poiler or hide Micas

1490
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: out for the season, so they you know, um, they've

1491
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: got their guys, they're gonna be going without them. Um,

1492
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: at least Micah Um. Yeah, yeah, that's maybe at some

1493
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: point he will. We don't know if he's gonna do

1494
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: it this week or not, though, but certainly there was

1495
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: a reason they ted for him because that's well, they

1496
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: needed depth. That's not just signing a guy off the street.

1497
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: They needed depth. I think they knew that Jordan Poyer's

1498
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: injury could linger for a couple of weeks and it has.

1499
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: And the only guy behind DeMar Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson

1500
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: was Cam Lewis at the safety position. So you're short

1501
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: there and they had to add somebody. And Dean Marlowe

1502
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: I think was a good add a guy who knows

1503
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: the system and has been around this defense, knows how

1504
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: to play off a lot of the guys who are

1505
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: still in this defense from the time that he left

1506
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: two years ago for Detroit and free agency, so yeah,

1507
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: it made sense to acquire him. Do you turn to him,

1508
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll have to wait and see. Jiquan

1509
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: did have a rough game last week, miss some tackles,

1510
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: was a little slow on a couple of reads, but

1511
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how The thing about it is there,

1512
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: he's not going to get on the field until he

1513
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: until they trust him, until he proves he's a better option,

1514
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: and they're watching him to see if he gets there. Yeah,

1515
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: it's one of the things that people don't get his

1516
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: practice practice, it's important to get prepared to play, but

1517
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: it's also competition, particularly in this culture here, and I

1518
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: don't remember this as being a bigger part of things

1519
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: as when I played than maybe because we had some

1520
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: established guys, But it's they're competing and they're bringing these

1521
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: guys in. They bring they brought Marlow in to compete,

1522
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, Damar Hamlin, Jukuwan Johnson or are there to

1523
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: compete with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. They're they're trying

1524
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: to get these guys better, and that atmosphere is what

1525
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: makes this player development that is so prevalent here in

1526
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo a thing. They got these guys competing in practice,

1527
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: trying to get on the field, and when they when

1528
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: they earn it, they get it so it's not just like, hey,

1529
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: we want them to work hard and you know, try

1530
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: and get them, you know, to practice so our starters

1531
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: can get better. We want them to get better, and

1532
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: in fact, we want this guy to get better than

1533
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: this guy so we can play him. So we're improving.

1534
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. So Marlow, he's probably out there trying,

1535
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: and he probably understands that it's out there for him

1536
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: if he wants it, and he's probably working towards it

1537
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: right now. So if he's not out there, it's because

1538
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: he's not there yet. And that's the only reason now

1539
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: they don't hesitate from Jeremy in the fan mail bag.

1540
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: The last few weeks, I've been buying apples and don't

1541
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: know why. I think it's because I listened to this

1542
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: show every day and hear the bit for Snapdragon apples.

1543
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: Where again can one find these? My subconscious has been

1544
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: programmed and I must try these now. Wagmans is where

1545
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: you can go to get Snapdragon apples, So head down there.

1546
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: And I just had one for lunch today with my lunch,

1547
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: I should say it wasn't my lunch. I had a

1548
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: sandwich and then the snapdrags Official Apple of the Buffalo

1549
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: bed Snapdragons. Yeah, well get him at Wagmans. That's where

1550
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: they got him, so head down. How about that. That's

1551
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: the first request like that we've gotten on the Friday

1552
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: mail bag. That's right, Steve. Let's move along to NFL

1553
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: true fall. Let's throw a couple of true falses at you,

1554
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: presented by Patrone Tequila, the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills,

1555
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: and we begin with this NFL true false Number one,

1556
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,839
Speaker 1: Jordan Love should finish the season at quarterback for the Packers.

1557
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: This team is in a tailspin. Aaron Rodgers looks like

1558
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: a shell of himself. He should finish the season at

1559
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Packers because they got six losses. What

1560
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: are they? Three and six? Three and six? If it

1561
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: gets to eight losses, yes, I think should finish currently

1562
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: eleventh in the conference Green Bay. Yeah, it should finish.

1563
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: Not until they're out of it, will finish. Maybe. Don't

1564
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: don't get too you know, don't go over the overboard

1565
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: of thinking Jordan Love's gonna come in save the season. Don't. Yeah,

1566
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: he's not going to save the season. But if you

1567
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: want to find out if he can play, okay, give

1568
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: him the last month of the season. But let me

1569
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: tell you this. If he comes in and the only

1570
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: reason you're gonna bring him in, I mean, Aaron Rodgers

1571
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere. He just signed a multi year deal

1572
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: there there. They'll be dead in the water next year

1573
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: if they cut him, because they won't be able to

1574
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: pay anybody anyway, and you'll be under it. Yeah. No, Um,

1575
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 1: if you want to find out if he can play, okay,

1576
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: I can listen to that. You don't want to get

1577
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers have more miles on him or whatever, and

1578
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: you want to find some things out about Jordan Love

1579
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: and everybody else. Okay, Um, he will finish the season

1580
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: those a strong word. He may play some, but I

1581
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna start games at the end of

1582
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: the season. I think this question is asking should he

1583
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: finish the season at quarterback basically now to the end

1584
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: of the year, And I would say fall, no, he's

1585
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. When when the Packers are out

1586
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: of the playoff race and you want to entertain that,

1587
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: that's fine by me, go ahead and knock yourself out.

1588
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: But for now, I would say false, because you're doing

1589
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: a disservice to your team. You paid this guy fifty

1590
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to lead your offense, and now

1591
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: that you're three and six, you're just gonna put him

1592
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: on the bench if you can't do that. And here's

1593
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: the thing too, and you put yourself in a kind

1594
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: of a lose lose situation. You go out. So Jordan

1595
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Love goes out and he knocks it dead. He's everything

1596
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers used to be. Right, he goes out of there,

1597
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: throws touchdowns, runs for touchdowns, no interceptions, lights just lights

1598
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: it up. Well then what yeah? Then what are you

1599
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? You're gonna trade him? No, get a one. No,

1600
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna trade him. You're gonna play him ahead

1601
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers and just fifty million dollars contract. That's

1602
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: that's a tough sell. Yeah, what are you gonna do?

1603
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: You're not trading him? What are you gonna do? Yeah, right,

1604
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: you're not gonna trade You're not gonna Are you gonna

1605
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: play him next year? Yeah? Are you gonna let him come?

1606
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: Are you gonna let him come? Why the hell did

1607
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: you sign him fifty million dollars a year for on

1608
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: a multi year deal? Yeah? I gonna trade him. You

1609
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 1: just made a fifty million dollars a year commitment to

1610
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: the guy, you're gonna trade him. I'm talking about Jordan Love. Oh,

1611
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, you're talking about you. You're gonna say, hey,

1612
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: the guy can play. Let's you know, give me that

1613
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: you could do that? Sure, the quarterback drafts for twenty

1614
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty twenty four are very good. So

1615
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: if you come and get a guy next year and

1616
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: put him in the pipeline, and then when Naron has

1617
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: done maybe next year, what do you do with Jordan

1618
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: Love if he comes in lights it up? Yeah? You

1619
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: count your you count your blessings countless. You like that,

1620
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: you like that one? You like that? Expecting that was not? No,

1621
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: give me something tangible. What seriously, what are you gonna

1622
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: do with him? Sit another year or two? If I

1623
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: can increase his value by what he's doing on the

1624
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: field at the end of the season and convince somebody

1625
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: that he could lead their football team, Yeah, I'll trade him,

1626
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: provided I can get a one in return. So you're

1627
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna trade two one? Wait, wait, you're gonna trade the

1628
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Love or you're gonna try and trade either one

1629
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: or both. No, I would trade Love because you made

1630
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: the commitment that you did to Rogers. What's a commitment

1631
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: got to do with it? Well, if somebody else look

1632
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: at the capit, it's pretty fair. Now if you trade him,

1633
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: they take it. No, they don't, not all the bonus

1634
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: moneys and everything. Yeah, but Jordan Loves under contract. You don't.

1635
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: It's money already spent. Are you talking Jordan Love or

1636
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: you're talking Aaron Rodgers Because you're flipping back and forth

1637
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: and you're confusing. They both have to do with the other.

1638
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: If you're gonna keep Jordan Love and trade Aaron Rodgers,

1639
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: or you can trade Jordan Love and keep Aaron Rodgers.

1640
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: But you gotta entertain both things. If Jordan Love shows

1641
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: you he can be the guy. Yeah. To me, the

1642
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: commitment they made to Rodgers means that if you have

1643
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: to choose between one of them, you're moving Love. You're

1644
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: just are you're not trading a way that four time MVP.

1645
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: They're just they're not gonna do it. They're not gonna

1646
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: do it, not with the track. Jordan Love wins four

1647
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: games and now you're picking him over Aaron Rodgers. They're

1648
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: not doing that. There's no way. How many games did

1649
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers win before they chucked Fret Farve to the curb. Well,

1650
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: they kicked him to the curb, they did. That's what

1651
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Man. If if Jordan Love makes makes

1652
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: chicken salad out of chicken pooh that Aaron Rodgers made,

1653
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: but how good? Yeah, but there are various degrees of

1654
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: how good Jordan Love looks. I just said. I just said.

1655
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: That's what he did. He lit the world on fire

1656
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: and caught lightning at a bottle. They were smoking hot,

1657
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: and he was winning games. He was he was Josh

1658
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Allen in the Green Bay uniform. Then you gotta check

1659
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: the financials. Can you afford to even trade the dang

1660
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: guy because you paid him fifty million dollars a year.

1661
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what his contract says in terms of

1662
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: the bonus money um, in terms of what you can do,

1663
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: and whether you could afford the dead cap just for

1664
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: one year. Remember they were up against it. No, he

1665
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: signed through twenty twenty six. Who rogers, Well, that's irrelevant.

1666
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: It's not irrelevant when your dead cap in twenty twenty

1667
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: three is ninety nine million dollars. That's what it is.

1668
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. You wouldn't have any dead cap.

1669
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have any of that. You trade him, you

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Speaker 1: move him off your roster, it hits your cap. All

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Speaker 1: the bonus money you take because you signed they didn't

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Speaker 1: give him. That's nine million. If you cut him, it's

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Speaker 1: not that much. If he trade him, No, because his

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Speaker 1: base salary next year is one point one six five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. He had a signing bonus of twelve point

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Speaker 1: nine eight. He had an option bonus of fourteen and

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Speaker 1: a half. All of that hits your cap, along with

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Speaker 1: the next three years after that. All that bonus money

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Speaker 1: is dead cap. Whether you trade him or you cut him,

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Speaker 1: ninety nine million dollars they're keeping Rogers moving Love. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. If they did that, I think they

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Speaker 1: already know about Jordan Love. Okay, Well, that was a

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Speaker 1: total circular, some moot point break tive for us. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I to come back with the final segment

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Speaker 1: where there's something to be said about Thanksgiving plans for

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Speaker 1: the NFL that involved the late great John matten More

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Speaker 1: On that next year on One Bill's Live. All right,

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, Steve building a game plan for the

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Speaker 1: Bill's offense. Bill's offense, Case Keenom's got to take the

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Speaker 1: high percentage of completion, get the ball out of his hands.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a much bigger There should be a

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Speaker 1: much more. You're gonna get much many more targets this week,

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: to to Cook to Hinz, to Singletary, to Dawson Knox.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be some easier completion so to get

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Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands, and the run game's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be a little bit more prominent along

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Speaker 1: with play action. When you want to get a big play,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to do. No called quarterback

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Speaker 1: runs for case Keenum. Maybe the occasional RPO, and that's

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna stop. You've got to stay on the

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Speaker 1: field offensively and be efficient. Get yourself to the red

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Speaker 1: zone because you can take advantage of the Vikings defense

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Speaker 1: down there. Knowing the defense is going to have a

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Speaker 1: hard time getting to Cousins with all the three step

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Speaker 1: drop and quick throws that he makes. They got to

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Speaker 1: get their hands up. Saw a lot of batted passes

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Speaker 1: on film, in their last three games on Cousins. That

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Speaker 1: helps the guys on the back end, hopefully trudevious plays

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Speaker 1: to help in the coverage, and hopefully it's enough for

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Speaker 1: a win. That's it for us. We'll see on Monday

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Speaker 1: at noon to break it all down. Enjoy the game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday.