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Speaker 1: The second. Most of the time, whenever we talk about

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Speaker 1: forbidden love on the show, it's about Brooke and her

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Speaker 1: insatiable thirst for her cousin Ron stop it.

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Speaker 2: I do not like my cousin.

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Speaker 1: Not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But alas, we're not dealing with that type of forbidden

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Speaker 1: love at least good not today. One of our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Mark says he dipped a toe into the forbidden pool

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Speaker 1: of romance recently, and he's afraid the lifeguard won't let

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Speaker 1: him cannonball all the way in, so he needs our Mark. Why,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show man, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh man.

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Speaker 4: I love a good, juicy story. I mean, I'm dying

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Speaker 4: to know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all us your situation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so I have a best friend Stuart going

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Speaker 3: by Stu. We've been really good friends since college.

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Speaker 4: Oh, do you want to take it to the next level?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well I thought would be forbidden your best friend.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm a straight fella, and you know you and

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Speaker 3: I have been really good buddies since college. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know his family go over his house all the time.

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Speaker 3: He los my family.

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Speaker 2: That's the best. When you can just like walk in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're the second son.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you prefer their family to your own. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: sure most of the time.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever take any family?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. It's nice to have a close friend

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a brother to me. And I'm just

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Speaker 3: afraid I may have ruined everything because I Loki had

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Speaker 4: You did you hook up with her already?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something did happen, you know, But it's been one

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Speaker 3: of those things where I, you know, I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: Oh really, he wouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's two different types. Like I have a friend

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Speaker 2: who's literally always asked, like, bro, you should date my sister.

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Speaker 1: I asked my best friend from high school if I

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Speaker 1: then I asked the sister and she said no. So

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Speaker 1: that was a super low moment. Yeah, legally we're supposed to.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really weird too, Like it's just like

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Speaker 4: I mean, how old is a little sister.

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Speaker 1: How much younger.

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Speaker 3: She was a few years younger. I mean, nothing crazy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what happened.

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Speaker 3: I was recently single and I was at a bar

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Speaker 3: and I said, it's under different circumstances. You know, I

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Speaker 1: What you just told her that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to have been drunk when you said that.

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Speaker 3: A little buzz.

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Speaker 1: What did she say to that?

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Speaker 3: She was like, well, maybe you should do it anyway.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is why I always wanted an

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Speaker 2: I never had one.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, their friends would be so cute growing up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 4: My friends with older brothers always had hot.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to salute around with everybody in your friends

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Speaker 1: So she wanted you to ask her out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I took that as a goal ahead. So I

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Speaker 1: Actually, you guys do have a good banter.

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Speaker 2: So was it fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, meet me outside in five. So we

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Speaker 4: My god, so fun and it probably felt like you know,

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Speaker 4: it's always fun when it's a little dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was good because there's a whole build up

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Speaker 3: It was great? And I mean we had I mean,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's good news. How did how

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Speaker 3: Well? I was like, we can't tell your brother about this,

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Speaker 3: and you said, I'm a grown woman. I can make

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Speaker 2: That you guys are both adults.

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Speaker 4: I mean that makes it feel really immature by trying

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Speaker 4: about it, if you really think he'd be that upset, Well.

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Speaker 3: It kind of changed my tune after that, and I

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Speaker 4: Okay, what you say to that?

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Speaker 3: Well, we just kind of got into a disagreement and

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Speaker 4: Oh did she like immediately leave and text her brother?

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Speaker 4: Does he know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know everything. He seems to be okay with two.

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Speaker 3: He's not treating me different, and I haven't brought it up,

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Speaker 2: I mean hopefully she did and he's cool with it,

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Speaker 4: Do you want to date her or do you just

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Speaker 3: Everything except for the end was awesome, and I you know,

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Speaker 3: I would love to keep hanging out with her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you would like to see your Let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick vote around the room. Do we think that this

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Speaker 1: is a good idea for him to date his best

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Why not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, one vote for yes, Brook, Yeah, I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: The girls love.

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Speaker 4: The worst thing that can happen, you lose your best friend.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, the romantic in me loves this because if

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Speaker 1: you Guys, do I'm fast forwarding here end up getting engaged.

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Speaker 2: You already have a family's blessing.

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Speaker 1: They kissed outside of a killed Let's not.

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Speaker 2: Jump the romantic in me. Things will go very well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so I'm gonna I'm gonna vote no. This

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Speaker 1: is probably not a good idea, but we're gonna that's.

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Speaker 2: Only because you were rejected by a sister.

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Speaker 1: If I can't have my best friends sister anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna call your best friend's sister, Lisa and try and

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Speaker 1: get you a second date. Update right after this, all

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Speaker 1: right thing, hold on, we're running a little bit short

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Speaker 1: on time, so I'm gonna do a quick recap. Guy

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Speaker 1: One night they ran into each other at a bar,

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Speaker 1: here's my question, because I just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I heard it correctly. You definitely don't think her brother

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Speaker 3: No way, he would have freaked out on me by no,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when do you want to tell him, like

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Speaker 1: a month in a year when you start popping out

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Speaker 1: nieces and nephews, story, when's the good time at the wedding?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess it depends on what happens

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Speaker 4: But today we're calling the little sister, right, we're not

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I absolutely talked to her since all this went

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have no idea what we're going to get

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Speaker 4: on the other line when we call her, like we're.

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Speaker 1: A girl hopefully, Well, I know, is she angry?

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Speaker 2: Is she Okay?

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Speaker 1: I'm going in with a positive attitude. Okay, Mark, you

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Speaker 1: always do, jeff someone has to. Let's do it. Calling

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Speaker 1: Lisa right now? Here we go, Hello, Hey is this Lisa? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is she Lisa. How's it going? You're on the

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Speaker 1: Well, we're a morning show called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 2: Are excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a very interesting conversation looming here.

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Speaker 5: I think I don't understand what's happening. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of explaining to do here.

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Speaker 2: We also do a podcast. Does that help? Probably?

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Speaker 5: Okay, but why are you calling me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're calling because we're doing a segment called the

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Speaker 1: Second Date Update, and we're trying to ask you a

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Speaker 1: a guy named Mark.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying to the family name Mark.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to label anything.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what did he tell you? Like, I what did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys met up randomly at a bar

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Speaker 1: one night and ran into each other there hung out

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Speaker 1: the rest of the night.

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Speaker 2: You guys went to a food truck.

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Speaker 1: You remember this, right.

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Speaker 5: I very vividly remember this night.

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Speaker 1: Throat?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, can you start for the beginning, like

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Speaker 4: when Mark said I want to ask you about on

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Speaker 4: the date, Like, I mean, it's your brother's best friend.

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Speaker 4: What were you thinking?

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Speaker 5: So at birst, I actually was like into it just

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Speaker 5: because I've always felt like Mark is kind of hot

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Speaker 5: and fun and it was exciting and felt this is

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Speaker 5: and risky going behind my brother's back because yeah, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much you know, but like Mark is

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Well because of that though, after we kind

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Speaker 7: of had our I mean we like kind of made

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Speaker 5: And that felt really gross to me, like really controlling,

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Speaker 5: Like that felt like a red flag.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he was like trying to kill

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Speaker 1: for this who wants to keep the good relations with everybody.

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Speaker 5: I guess, but that's not attractive to me, Like you're

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Speaker 5: making out with me and now you're you're acting scared.

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Speaker 2: I don't tell anybody.

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Speaker 1: Should have waited like five minutes or something.

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Speaker 4: I mean we told him. That sounded pretty immature when

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it was a little too late because I decided

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Speaker 4: Oh what, so wait, when did you tell him that night?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 6: What was his respect? Would?

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Speaker 5: Well, my brother was cool with it, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: that's not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Sure seriously, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: Why was Mark so in his head about your brother

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Speaker 4: being so weird about it?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, he was like for certain that his best

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Speaker 2: Yeah weird. Well that's weird, that's strange.

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Speaker 4: So your brother was actually fine.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, He said, Mark's a good guy. If you want

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Speaker 5: to hang out with him, that's cool with me.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a good thing for someone?

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Speaker 5: But the riskiness, the dangerous part of it was gone,

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Speaker 5: which like, okay, that's fine, not all my relationships need

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Speaker 5: to be that. But then it just started becoming weird

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Speaker 4: So it didn't freak your brother out, it freaked you

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Speaker 4: out when you started to think about it.

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Speaker 1: The risk and the danger was gone, and then so

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Speaker 1: that the romance left. But like, what if I told

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Speaker 1: you if you're into risk and danger, there's been somebody

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: I just don't really know what this is. What do

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Speaker 5: you mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mark has been quietly listening, wanting to jump in,

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Speaker 1: and you it's dangerous. He's a dangerous ball.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, either a bad boy.

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Speaker 5: Wait so Mark heard everything I just said.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you can ask him.

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Speaker 3: Mark, you told your brother, like right off the bath,

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Speaker 3: that's what you did.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I'm able to make my own decisions, and

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Speaker 5: I decided to do that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's the first thing you have to say about

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Speaker 3: I just I mean, I don't know why you would

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Speaker 3: do that, Like that would be your first instinct when

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Speaker 3: I was like, I worried about.

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Speaker 1: It, but whatever, I mean, he was cool with it. Mark.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's unexpected. And I was just trying

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Speaker 3: to be cautious about relationships.

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Speaker 1: See that's the problem right there. Mark, You're trying to

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Speaker 1: be cautious and she's into danger. You got to be

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Speaker 1: dangerous if you want to win.

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Speaker 3: I'm still plenty dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your your your family would hate it if we

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Speaker 3: hooked up. I don't think, like, have you told your

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Speaker 3: mom about it?

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Speaker 5: No, believe it or not. I didn't call my mom.

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Speaker 3: You're you're lucky you didn't tell your mom. She would

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Speaker 3: have been super angry and.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous. Don't tell the dog either going to the gauge

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Speaker 1: on this family are.

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Speaker 2: So wrong.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he's trying to make it sound dangerous.

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Speaker 1: If you think your parents would be a set, No,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 6: They'd be fine with it too, which makes it feel

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mark, I think of a healthy relationship.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to play up Mark's good parts. Right,

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Speaker 4: everyone says he's a great guy in your family. He

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Speaker 4: obviously likes you, and.

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Speaker 2: You guys know each other really well.

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Speaker 4: Like that can be a real foundation for something.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying. I feel like with Mark specifically, I'd

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Speaker 5: want it to feel more dangerous, and it doesn't. And

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Speaker 5: so that's just kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so maybe that was.

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Speaker 3: I do other dangerous things, you know, I gamble until

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Speaker 3: I have no money.

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Speaker 2: Should not do that? Mark give him a number?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So that's just irresponsible, that's not dangerous.

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Speaker 2: He's like I, I also have horrible credit.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't wow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what we would like to do, Lisa is

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Speaker 1: would pay for it. See that? Look at that A

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Speaker 1: man who won't even pay for his own.

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Speaker 2: Dates because he ran out of money gambling.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that naughty?

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Lisa, Well, I hear that you

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Speaker 5: want to do that, and Mark probably wants to do that,

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Speaker 5: But I do not want to.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. We finally found someone that doesn't approve

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Speaker 1: of the relationship. Dating him would go against your own wishes.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get any more naughty and risky than that,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, yea, but listen, I do want to

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Speaker 6: say I'm okay with us still being friends, but like,

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Speaker 6: all of this is really awkward.

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Speaker 5: So I think maybe let's shift have some distance for

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Speaker 5: a bit and I'll see you when I see you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great you are Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: Wow, I definitely shouldn't have kissed you. Okay, maybe we

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Speaker 5: can know.

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Speaker 2: I'll laugh about this in the future.

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving broking, Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You guys, ever heard the phrase trying to catch a

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Speaker 1: falling knife.

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Speaker 2: It's a good phrase. I already know what it means.

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Speaker 1: It's where things are spirally out of control and you're

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Speaker 1: in a desperate panic to just stop the damage continuing.

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Speaker 1: That's what we just witnessed with Mark, because he immediately

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Speaker 1: came on and thought, you know, what. I'm being too

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Speaker 1: safe for her. I need to come across as dangerous.

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Speaker 1: And it just got worse and worse and worse till

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Speaker 1: we found out he's a degenerate gambler with horrible credit.

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Speaker 2: I think I made it broke all the time.

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Speaker 4: I feel like his buddy's gonna lose respect for him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gave you the green light to date my sister

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Speaker 1: and then she rejected you.

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Speaker 2: What a loser.

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Speaker 1: On that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's the same outcome.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I think Mark's a good guy. I'm changing my opinion,

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Speaker 1: and we need to.

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Speaker 2: Make a phone call for you. I know he already

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Speaker 2: got rejected.

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Speaker 1: We're done. If you ever need a second date update,

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Speaker 1: we won't judge you. You can email the show. We'll

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