1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Right now, we're not even both visible. So we're trying 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: to get to that next win, and that's why we 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: have to look at it. You know, we're still other hunters, 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: we're not the hunted. And I'll know what game out 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: in our division, but we have some catching up to do. Hey, everybody, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Chris Harry with you on the week thirteen edition of 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. That was head coach Anthony Lynn ahead of 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: this Sunday's game against the Cleveland Browns. A bit later, 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll be joined by NFL dot com is Mark Sessler 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to pick a six pack of games that directly affect 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: the AFC playoff picture. Chargers team reporter Helio would also 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: stop spy with the latest from the Hooge Performance Center. 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: But first and end depth look at the Chargers Week 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: thirteen opponent. All right. To get this week's opposing view, 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: we bring in Mary Kay Cabot from Cleveland dot Com, 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: one of the best team reporters in football, and Mary 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Kay the Browns now and eleven. After losing to the 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Bengals thirty sixteen. But it looked like Deshaun Kaiser may 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: have played his best game as a pro on Sunday. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, I actually think he did. Deshaun is really 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: coming around. He's learned to put a little bit more 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: touch on the ball. He was selling it too hard. 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: He was almost selling an uncatchable ball in the earlier 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: part of the season. He worked very very hard on 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: that during the bye week and you're you're seeing the 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: fruits of that now. I think guys are having a 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: much easier time catching that football. So I think that's 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: made a difference for him. And then, you know how 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: it is with workies. The lights just start to come 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: on for rookies and they just start to the game 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: slows down to them a little bit. They start to 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, read the defenses and you know, 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: figure out what the safeties are doing and read their keys. 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: And so he's picking up on those things a lot 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: better if the receivers are adjusting to him a little 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: bit more and he's moving the football. So two hundred 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: and sixty eight yards passing in this past game, he 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't turn it over at all, and that was major 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: progress for him. You know, it doesn't hurt too when 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: you get your best receiver back in Corey Coleman. I 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: believe the last two weeks he's been targeted nineteen times. 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: I know he had a big drop in the end zone. 43 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: It would have been a sure touchdown. But how does 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the offense look different when Coleman is in the game. Well, 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: it helps to have a first runner receiver in the game. Now, 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: he did not have a good game this past game. 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: They when you only really have one of those guys, 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of easy for the defense 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: to focus on him and try to take him out 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: of the game. And that's that's basically what these guys did. 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: And then he had the big drop in the end zone, 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: and that doesn't help matters at all. I mean, these guys, 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson talks about how they have to play a 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: perfect game, and that's true. They almost have to play 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: a perfect game in order to win one. And you 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: know that obviously hasn't happened. So you know, you've got 57 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: to catch the interceptions that you're dropping, You've got to 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: catch that touchdown past by Corey Coleman in the end zone. 59 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: But you know it does help him. Corey back on 60 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the field. But again, he's about the only one that 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: you can really point to and say, you know, he's 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: a real bona fide weapon on the receiving corp. And 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: they're going to get another weapon back, Mary Kay. Probably 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: the biggest storyline this week coming out of Cleveland is 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: a return of Josh Gordon, and Hugh Jackson says he 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: has big plans for Gordon on Sunday. For a guy 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: who hasn't played in a regular season game since twenty fourteen, 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: what do you think that means? Well, you know what 69 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: I think it means that they are going to use 70 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: him early and often, and they're going to try to 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: get as much as they can out of Josh Gordon 72 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: because you know, like I said before, they don't really 73 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: have very many weapons on this offense. Now, if you 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: put Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon out there, and then 75 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: who've got two guys a defense has to worry about 76 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: two fast guys. Josh Gordon has been clocked in a 77 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: four point three to five in the forty down at 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Numas Speed in Gainesville, where he was working out with 79 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: former Olympic spurner Kim Montgomery. So he's very fast, he's 80 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: in tremendous shape, he's lean, he's lost weight, he's you know, 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: he just looks really really good in practice and I've 82 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: just heard reports from people that have said, you know, 83 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: when he stepped onto that field on Wednesday, he instantly 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: became the best player on the football team, the whole 85 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: entire football team. So there's a lot for the grounds 86 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to look forward to, and I actually think that Josh 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Gordon gives them an opportunity to try to win a 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: football game this season. Mary Kay, you covered him too 89 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: obviously when he had that unbelievable I think it was 90 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and then obviously the troubles. What do you 91 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: think his prospects are for being able to bounce back 92 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: and really have the career that everyone expected him to 93 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: have from the beginning. Well, you know what, I think 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Josh right now needs to focus a little bit more 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: just on his sobriety and football and maybe a little 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: bit less on on all the outside stuff that he's 97 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: gotten himself involved with. You know, you see him doing 98 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: a lot of interviews. You see him, you know, he's 99 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: on the cover of GQ, He's doing Uninterrupted. He has 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: a store that came out I think it was today 101 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: maybe in SI that details a lot of his criminal 102 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: past and different things that he's gone through, and I 103 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: think it's just a little bit much. I think that 104 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon needs to get out there and play a 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 1: football game first, before you know, telling his life story 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: to everyone one and uh, you know, and focusing on 107 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: that whole side of it. I think I think he 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: needs to ease himself back into the world of the 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: NFL and in his free time, be in whatever treatment 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: plan he can get himself into, and you know, just 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of let all the other stuff go for now. 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: There will be time to tell his story. There will 113 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: be you know, his business manager wants him, you know, 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: wants to make a movie out of this. Well, before 115 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: you can make the movie, you have to have a 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: happy ending to the story exactly. So I think he 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: needs to work, right. I think he needs to work 118 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: more on the story itself and the happy ending and 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: then we can all worry about the movie later. Mary, Kay, 120 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: what's the locker room like? As we enter December, I 121 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: realized this team has not won a game, but there's 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys on this team who I 123 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: believe have a lot to prove this last month of 124 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the season. Well, you know what, you have got to 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: give Hugh Jackson a ton of credit for keeping this 126 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: team fighting so hard because, like you said, this is 127 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: not only the first sea of losing, the second straight 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: losing season of just massive losing you know, one and 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: twenty six over the last two seasons. And you can 130 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: say that it does take its toll on a lot 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: of these guys that have been through this now for 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: the second season. But he's done a great job of 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: getting these guys ready to play, of getting their heads 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: done straight. There's a good leadership council on the team. 135 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Chris Kirksey gave an impassioned postgame speech last week after 136 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, there's just a lot of 137 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: guys that are still fighting really hard. I think they 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, some of them aren't even going 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: to be with this team next year, so they have 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: to put a good film out there for their futures. 141 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: But just more so than anything, this is a team 142 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: that's fighting its tailoffs to get a victory. And you 143 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: talk about one in twenty six Mary Kay, the Browns 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: beat the Chargers for that lone win last season in 145 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. What are the players and coaches saying about 146 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: playing in LA this week? And I know a lot 147 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: of them have memories of that win last season. Well, 148 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: I think they re ignize first of all, that the 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Chargers are playing well, that they're heating up, that they've 150 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: been scoring a lot of points, that Philip Rivers is 151 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: on point right now. I think they recognize all of that, 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: all the challenges that they have ahead of them. But 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: by the same token, in addition to that, I think 154 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: they all realized that the last thing that the Chargers 155 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: want is the dubious distinction of losing to this winless 156 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: team for the second year in a row. So you know, 157 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers have a lot to play for and that's 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: one of them. That's something that is going to be 159 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: I think first and foremost in their minds that there 160 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: is no way that they want to go out and 161 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: lose to the Cleveland Browns again. Even right now, I'm 162 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: sure it sticks in their craw that they were the 163 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: one that lost to them last year. And I think 164 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: they're going to find a better football team than what 165 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: most people think that the Cleveland Browns are because they've 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: been in these games. I mean, Deshaun Kaiser had them. 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: He scored a rushing touchdown last week on Cincinnati's number 168 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: three red zone defense that put the Browns up twenty 169 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: three to sixteen in the fourth quarter, and you know, 170 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: so they were a catchdown away from tying or winning 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that football game, or at least going ahead again in 172 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And I think the Chargers will find 173 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: that same thing. I think they'll find a very spirited, aggressive, 174 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: gutsy football team that's going to come out there with 175 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: their hair on fire and try to win a game. 176 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: But it's going to be tough because in the end, 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have had the horses to do it. 178 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: The only thing that could possibly push them over the 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: top would be Josh Gordon and Mary Kay. You look 180 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: at the roster on the Browns and I know it's young. 181 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: I know the quarterback is inexperienced, but there is a 182 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: lot of individual talent. So I don't know, how do 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: you explain the record really, because is it just a 184 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: lack of consistent execution, Because you look at some of 185 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: the key positions. They have great interior lineman, they have 186 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: two running backs, They're getting some wide receivers. Back Greg 187 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Williams has done a good job with that defense. So 188 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: it's just it's like you kind of scratch your head. 189 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: You knew they were going to struggle a little bit 190 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: this year. But to B eleven, what can you point to? Well, 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, the number one thing that I can point 192 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: to there is flip through the NFL stats and land 193 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: on the page that gives you the turnover differential. It 194 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: is there you will find the Cleveland Browns at the 195 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: very very bottom at minus seveneam Okay, No matter what 196 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: else is happening on your football team, if you can 197 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: consistently win the turnover battle the takeaway battle, then you 198 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: can win football games. And they're not getting it from 199 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: either side. So in addition to turning it over at 200 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: an a learning rates, they're not getting the turnovers or 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: the takeaways. In this past game again they dropped at 202 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: least three interceptions, had another chance at the ball in 203 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the end zone Joe Schober did. So that's that's really 204 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: killing this football team to be minus seventeen, and that 205 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: really tells the story of the season because you can 206 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: cover up a lot of ills if you can win 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: the turnover battle and at least of your football games. Absolutely, 208 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: and the Charges have really taken care of the football 209 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's a big reason for their turnaround 210 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: this year. I want to ask you about Miles Garrett 211 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. He had his fifth sack 212 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: of the season on Sunday, and Mary, Kay, you've seen 213 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: him from the beginning. How good can this guy be? 214 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: You know? I think he could be tremendous. I think 215 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: a couple of things have been working against him this season, 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: and that's injuries and now the loss of Emmanuel Aga 217 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: on the other side, so they can give more attention 218 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to Miles with Emmanuel out. But he missed the first 219 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: four games with a high ankle sprain, then he missed 220 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: one with the concussion. It's hard to keep your rhythm going. 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: And then in addition to that, those high ankle sprains 222 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: they linger and they kind of flare back up when 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: you play on them. So I don't think he's one 224 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent yet, but he's gutting that out. He has 225 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: no problem playing in pain and through pains. But I 226 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: don't think he's at his one best or most explosive yet. 227 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: So I think there's plenty more to come from him. 228 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: That has been trying to coax it out of him 229 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. He said, you know, hey, 230 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: go dominate the game, make more splash plays. Yesterday he said, 231 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: I think there's more in there, and I think everybody 232 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: recognizes that there is more in there, but I'm not 233 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: sure you'll see the full Miles Garrett this year. I 234 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a great player. And speaking 235 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: of pass rushers, is Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram. They're playing 236 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: about as well as anybody in the league from a 237 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: pass rushing perspective. The Browns are without Joe Thomas, but 238 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of good players that I mentioned before on 239 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: the ends here of that old line. How do you 240 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: think they neutralize Bosa and Ingram as they're currently constructed, Well, 241 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: it's going to be really, really hard. The Browns have 242 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: been having issues and problems with that throughout the season. 243 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: You've got Spencer Drango trying to replace Joe Thomas, and 244 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, nobody's going to confuse him 245 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas, but I mean he's a really young player. 246 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: He's playing hard, he's doing the best he can. He's 247 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: in a very very difficult situation, and you know, teams 248 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: aren't going to try to exploit that every single week. 249 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're going to be successful. So that's I'm sure 250 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: that it hasn't been lost on the Chargers that that 251 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: Joe is there, and then when you Joe is not there, 252 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: and then when you have Spencer there, you have to 253 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: give him some help. And when you have to give 254 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: him that kind of help in the form of chipping 255 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: with a running back or a tight end or whatever 256 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: the case may be. Uh, you know, then you're kind 257 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: of curtailing your offense a little bit, and you know, 258 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: you just don't have as many weapons out there as 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: you would like to. So um so as that's when 260 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: tremendous loss. I mean, when you think about it, this 261 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: team went into this season with three Pro Pro Bowl players, 262 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: or you know, in the off season they had three. 263 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden he's gone to the fifth first Steelers, Jamie 264 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Collins he's out for the season with a torn MCL, 265 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: and then Joe Thomas he's out with the torn rice ups. So, uh, 266 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: they just don't have any of those Blue Ship players 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: on the field and they won't until Sunday when Josh 268 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: comes back. What do you think will decide Sunday's game? 269 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: And you kind of alluded to it before. I think 270 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: the turnover differential may have a big say. Yes, I 271 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: think that I think it will because if those guys 272 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: can get the kind of pressure that they have been getting. 273 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: If they can get that kind of pressure on Deshaun 274 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Kaiser and forced him in a couple of interceptions. Uh, 275 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think that that will decide the game. 276 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Now he again he stayed turnover free in this last game, 277 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: but he does lead the NFL with fourteen interceptions. He 278 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: is prone to that. And you know Josh Gordon coming back. 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: I remember the last time he came back in twenty fourteen, 280 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer had eight interceptions in four of his in 281 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: the final four games. A lot of those were on 282 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: passes intended for Josh Gordon because they weren't on the 283 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: same page yet. Josh wasn't running precise routes yet. Now, 284 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: he had a lot of other issues going on back then. 285 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: He you know, later recently admitted that he was you 286 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: know you substances before every game and he's not doing 287 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: that right now. Um, but you know, if he's not 288 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: on point with where he needs to be. Uh you 289 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: know that, you know, there could be opportunities there force 290 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: and takeaway Mary kay, great stuff. We were talking just 291 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: before we came on. This is gonna be your first 292 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: time in LA and quite some time. You're looking forward 293 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to it. I am so looking for you to. I 294 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: used to come out, I really really am. I have, 295 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, friends out there looking forward to going and visiting. 296 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: One of my friends in Manhattan Beach. I remember I 297 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: used to come out and cover um, you know, the 298 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Forced soccer team way back when. I'm not even 299 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: remembering what the LA's team was way back then, but 300 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: major indoor soccer league, the Lasers. Was it the Lasers? 301 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: It could have been the Lasers. Yeah, they were, they 302 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: were good whatever they were. They were owned by the 303 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: Bus family, and so I have great memories of that, 304 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and you know, just tremendous memories, you know, covering some 305 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: football out there, but a long, long time ago. So 306 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: great that they're football back in LA and I can't 307 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: wait to get there and we can't wait to see 308 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: you on Sundays. She's Mary Kay Cabot. Thank you so much, 309 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Mary Kay, I will see you on Sunday. Sounds good. 310 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. If you're a fan of the Chargers, 311 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: shop our huge selection of Los Angeles Chargers gear and 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: merchandise at the official pro Shop of the Los Angeles 313 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Chargers by officially licensed Chargers apparel to cheer on the team, 314 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: including Chargers jerseys, T shirts, tailgating gear, salute to service gear, 315 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: and much more. Browse our collection of the most popular 316 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: items and school accessories such as backpacks, fidget spinners, and 317 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Chargers back to school supplies. Find any kind of Los 318 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers gear or clothing you may ever need today 319 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: at shop dot Chargers dot com. It's my great pleasure 320 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: to welcome in NFL dot COM's Mark Sessler to Chargers 321 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Weekly and Mark. The AFC playoff picture is tightening up 322 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: a little bit as we enter week thirteen, and I 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: know you're Super Bowl pick. Those Los Angeles Chargers have 324 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: fought their way back into the mix. They really have. 325 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, when they started Owen four, I wasn't thinking, 326 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, I hope this is a repeat of the 327 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two Chargers. I was freaking out. I thought, 328 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: what have I done here? Because I also on the 329 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: end in the NFC, I picked the New York Giants. 330 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: So need us to say, anyone that remembered that tweet 331 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that I sent out were they were coming at me 332 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: saying you simply should not be analyzing football on any 333 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: level at this point. But Los Angeles has done me 334 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: proud over the last seven weeks, and I really do 335 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: feel like in an AFC West. You know, in the 336 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: offseason we talk about the AFC West as hands down 337 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: the most powerful division up and coming teams, and it's 338 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: not played out that way. I think that Los Angeles 339 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: has a great chance to get back into this thing. 340 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: No questions asked. It's interesting, and you know, Mark, it's 341 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: not like you can predict injuries. Did you Can you 342 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: predict the Odell Beckham injury and the Eli Manning benching 343 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: ahead of the twenty seventeen season. No? If I could, 344 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I would. I would simply leave the NFL immediately and 345 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: moved to Las Vegas. I mean, I'd have much more 346 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: powerful skills than I do. So all right, so, hey, 347 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: you're part of a fun show on NFL Network called 348 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: NFL Pick Them. It airs this Saturday. Let me get 349 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: the airtimes. It's eight am and eleven pm Eastern and 350 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: then Saturday at six am Eastern, So basically just DVRT 351 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: if you don't have a chance to watch it at 352 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: that time. But I thought it'd be of interest to 353 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: charges fans to kind of go through a six pack 354 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: of games that actually affect the AFC playoff picture. But first, 355 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: what are you playing cornhole this week? What's going on 356 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: this week? You know, this week we got we were 357 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: about to go and do an interesting segment. We've done 358 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot of different things. We've tried to film some stuff. 359 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: It's a little a little out of the Norman outside 360 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: of the studio. We were planning to do that right 361 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: when the Eli Manning benching news hit, so we got 362 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: thrown into a bit of a whirlwind some writing to 363 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: do some reaction to that. We had to tape a 364 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: new part of our podcast. So we are doing studio 365 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: hits this week. But we're going to have some good 366 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: stuff over the next three weeks, some very interesting and 367 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: some odd segments as well. On the pickup Show Awesome, Yeah, no, 368 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. If you haven't seen it, 369 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: I suggest you check it out. But let's start with 370 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: your team, the Cleveland Browns coming up to StubHub Center 371 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to take on the Chargers. And you know, normally I 372 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: always get nervous about games like this with a team 373 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: like the Chargers because they've won two in a row 374 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: and you have an opponent that's O and eleven come 375 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: in to town, but all they have to do is 376 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: be reminded of the fact that they lost to the 377 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Browns in twenty sixteen. Yeah, and I think this is 378 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: a different situation for the Chargers too, right, They're kind 379 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: of rolling right now, and I love what Finally, I 380 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: feel like Keenan Allen has become the real centerpiece of 381 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: that passing game with the with the Browns, what I 382 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: saw last week was from de Shaun Kaiser, the best 383 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: game he's played all year. But they really themselves, you know. 384 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: I guess you get Josh Gordon back into the mix, 385 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: which is an X factor, but I really think that 386 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna need almost till next season to find out 387 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: if Josh Gordon is with the Browns what that really means. 388 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: They're probably gonna phase them in slowly, and outside of 389 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, they just don't have much on that offense. 390 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Corey Coleman can get some get some work done, 391 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: but how do you handle both in Melvin Ingram if 392 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: you're Cleveland's offensive line minus you know, Joe Thomas, Deshaun Kaiser. 393 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: One of the things that he's done a little bit 394 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: better at, but a big flaw for him is sort 395 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: of walking into sacks and walking into pressure and holding 396 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: onto the ball too long. So I like the matchup 397 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: for Los Angeles, and I just I, you know, I 398 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: think you'd be safe not picking the Browns again in 399 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: all season. Maybe you get it wrong once and it 400 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: would be a flukey type game like they would. You know, 401 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: beating the Chargers last year was not something anyone saw coming. 402 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: It was obviously incredibly discouraging to the Chargers franchise. I 403 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna let that happen again, you know. 404 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I talked to Mary Kay Cabott in our first segment here, 405 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: and we talked about just, you know, with no Joe 406 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Thomas in there, they have a good interior offensive line, 407 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: but to be able to stop Bosa and Ingram. There's 408 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: not many teams in the NFL that have had a 409 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of success, and the Dallas Cowboys being the latest 410 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: example of that. Yeah. And also when I watched Cleveland, 411 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: I see a team that feels like very well scripted 412 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: for their first drive or too. Yeah, and you will 413 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: see that. I think they'll come out of the gate strong, 414 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: and they always do, and then then it really falls apart, 415 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: and it's really the strength on strength, and they sim 416 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of young players and I don't 417 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: see them as quite disaster that some do. But they 418 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: don't match up well against a Chargers team that has 419 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: some legit stars on both sides of the ball. Yeah, 420 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers can get this w get to 421 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: six and six, and then the Chiefs they go to 422 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: MetLife to take on the Jets. Chiefs are six and five, 423 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: they've lost five of six. They actually beat the Giant 424 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: or they lost to the Giants rather in Met Life 425 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. What do you think happens here? What's 426 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: wrong with the Chiefs right now? You know, it's funny. 427 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, people who have watched them closely talk about 428 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the fact that I think their offensive has been diagnosis 429 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: to some degree. You see, defensive defense is using a 430 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: little cover two was mentioned by some of the players, 431 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: and that that's taken out of the mix some of 432 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: the deep plays that we were so encouraged by with 433 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, because it was like the Chiefs, which I 434 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: think you know, rightly or wrongly got a tag of 435 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: being somewhat of a boring team over the last couple 436 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: of years on offense, that you can count on them 437 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: they go ten and six and get knocked out of 438 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That the first five weeks of the season, 439 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: we thought this is a totally different type of team, 440 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: and it's been shut down, and I think that, you know, 441 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: it's a very long season, and as film is compiled up, 442 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, you can take what they've what they've done, 443 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and say, here's how we're going to diagnose that No. 444 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is throwing so many passes over the last 445 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you know, behind the line of scrimmage 446 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: or just at the line of scrimmage, and that vertical 447 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: element has been completely taken away, and so they have 448 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: to get back to, I think, finding a way to 449 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: consistently run the ball. And I it's like with Andy Reid. 450 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: You trust them to kind of get their footing back. 451 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: But the last month has been so distressing, and I 452 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: don't think as in years past, I mean, they don't 453 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: have the defense to lean on. People talk about Darrell 454 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Reevs being signed. If it's last year's Darrell Revis, I 455 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: don't think that means much at all. And the guy's 456 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: been essentially, you know, on his couch for three months, 457 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: so I don't know why that's more than just a 458 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: big name of the past being dropped into the mix, 459 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: and people underrate the Jets. The Jets, you know, nearly 460 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: knocked off the Panthers. They put that team right down 461 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: to the edge. There's a game against the Patriots that 462 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: they nearly won. I think the Jets, who everyone assumed 463 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: would go one and fifteen, have really battled every week 464 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: and they've been I wouldn't I wouldn't underrate them at 465 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: all if I were Kansas City, and I don't think 466 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: they will. And I think too Mark, when you look 467 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: at the first five or six weeks of the season, 468 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: that offensive outburst by the Chiefs, I think it masked 469 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they lost Eric Barry at the beginning 470 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: of the season, and I think that's really kind of 471 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: catching up with them on the defensive side of the ball. 472 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: That and I think just cream Hunt. I mean, listen, 473 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: he was lights out for the first five six weeks, 474 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: but he seems to have hit a rookie wall. And 475 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: I just I just don't know what they are offensively. 476 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Like you say, I trust Andy Reid to figure it out. 477 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: To an extent, I think the Chiefs have a have 478 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: an excellent chance to get the win here, But I 479 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just a team that you can't fully 480 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: trust at this point. No, and they I mean, I 481 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: look at that week fifteen matchup with the Chargers that 482 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: is so critical in a one week after they played 483 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders, and they have to they you know, outside 484 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: of that the Chiefs and gets through that. They have 485 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Miami and Denver, two teams in free fall to close 486 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: this season. But I really look at that Chargers matchup 487 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: as the AFC West game of the season. Let's go 488 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: to the next one, New England at Buffalo. Listen, I 489 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: thought Buffalo season was over after the Chargers game, after 490 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: getting blown up by the Saints and Charges in consecutive whigs. 491 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: They go to Arrowhead find a way to win. Tyrod 492 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Taylor's now back under center. But you got to play 493 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots twice in the last five weeks, and this 494 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: is a this is gonna be a tall task. Yeah, 495 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: it's it's And also the Patriots right now are absolutely 496 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: flying on offense with what really feels like Bill Belichick's 497 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, perfect vision, where you've got Rex Burkhead, You've 498 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: got James White, Dion Lewis, you have multiple weapons in 499 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: the backfield, they don't just run the ball. You can 500 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: line up up anywhere as running backs, but also out 501 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: as you know, slot receivers, and they are catching screens 502 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: and yards after the catch. And then Brandon Cooks, who 503 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes these free agent signings work, sometimes they don't. 504 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks has been an incredibly perfect match for Tom Brady, 505 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: who you know, forget what is a whatever his age is, 506 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: He's playing the best football this career right now. And 507 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: you talk about the Patriots defense early in the year, 508 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: all of that is an old that's months old at 509 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: this point, that the amount of yardage they were giving up. 510 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: They have tightened up the defense. It's a typical Patriots season. 511 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Everything is coming together. And when I look at the Bills, 512 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: I think the thing that you get out at Tyrod 513 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: Taylor's he's not turning the ball over and he's mobile. 514 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: He can extend plays. Two things that you know in 515 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: the quick disastrous look we saw from Nathan Peterman, both 516 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: of those things were the opposite five picks and you know, 517 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: standing in the pockets. So the Bills to me are 518 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: a team that is building slowly. With Sean McDermott, I 519 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. I think they have a 520 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: good front office in place. That was a bad week 521 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: to make that quarterback switch, as Chargers fans know, But 522 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: I really trust New England in this situation to take 523 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: care of business. It's just like New England at this 524 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: point by now just rounds into shape and starts pummeling opponents. 525 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like a tale of two seasons too. 526 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: I think Kevin Harlan mentioned this on radio earlier in 527 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: the year, and he's like, the thing about the NFL season, 528 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: you have to throw out September and even like the 529 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of October because you don't know 530 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: who's good yet until October, till people start till teams 531 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: rather start to get in a groove and start to 532 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: hit each other because you know you're you're not hitting 533 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: that much in training camp. That New England defense that 534 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: we saw on September, like you said, that's a distant 535 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: memory now, I mean this this team is home on 536 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: both sides of the football. Yeah. They talked about I 537 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: think early on in the year that what was happening 538 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: the secondary, especially those safeties and cornerbacks, talked about that 539 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: as a communication breakdown, communication issues those things get ironed out, 540 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: and under Bill Belichick, stuff like that does not last 541 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: for more than a couple of weeks. And it is 542 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: so true that it's really a post Thanksgiving league because 543 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: injuries obviously reshape you know, a third of the teams, 544 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: and we're past that point. We know outside of you know, 545 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: any future disaster to what quarterbacks, what major players like 546 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: an Odell Beck, I'm going to get out. At this point, 547 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you get a sense for these teams. There's a lot 548 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: of tape for everyone. So some teams like the Chiefs 549 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: that surgily get diagnosed, and others like New England, you 550 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: just trust the way they've been coached seventeen straight consecutive 551 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: winning seasons that a team like Buffalo, you know, if 552 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: Tom Brady knocks off the Bills, he will have the 553 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: best record against any team of any quarterback in history. 554 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: So you know, you can't really predict an upset here 555 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: without being completely you know, you'd be sunned if it happened. Yeah, 556 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're both going agreement that New 557 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: England will take care of business in Buffalo's Let's move 558 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: on to this crazy AFC south Mark Houston at Tennessee. 559 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: You had Tom Savage under center for the Texans. They 560 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: couldn't close the deal Monday night in Baltimore. In Tennessee, 561 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: hey there's seven and four. They didn't look so great 562 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. And Marcus Mariota, he's got to step it 563 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: up a little bit. Yeah. I just I don't only 564 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: trust either of these teams. I think that you're going 565 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: to get the team outside of Jacksonville, where they have 566 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: a super Bowl level defense. I look at I look 567 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: at the Titans as a team that I came into 568 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: this season loving what they did last year. And they 569 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: had they really had built an identity under John Robinson 570 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: the gym for the first time and so long, they 571 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: were a tough team. They basically said, we're gonna line 572 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: up five or six offensive linemen, We're gonna put a 573 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: couple of tight ends in there, We're gonna run at you, 574 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with it now. Oh 575 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: and on top of it, we have Marcus Mariota, who 576 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: is looking like one of the promising young quarterbacks. I 577 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: think he is still, It's just that that offense has 578 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: really sort of lost itself. The running game is not 579 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: as reliable, and so I just in Houston. We saw 580 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: on Monday night that for all, for all the progress 581 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: and moments that Savage made in the first half, that 582 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: he's a turnover machine. And outside of Jadeveon Clowney and 583 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, two legit stars, there's just not a lot 584 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: to like about the Texans. So I feel like these 585 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: two are sort of marching to a pretty obvious conclusion, 586 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: which will be probably for the Texans, you know, a 587 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: high draft pick, which was to Cleveland, so that's unfortunately 588 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: for them and for essentially for the Titans. I would 589 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: you sneak into the playoffs maybe and get whacked. I 590 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: just I don't see. I don't look at either of 591 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: these teams. It's a team that you can say, you know, 592 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: there's a big story happening here, there's something we can trust. Well, 593 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: you know what's curious to me is just the turnovers 594 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: from Mariota Mark because he said he has six interceptions 595 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: his last two games. He had nine all of last year, 596 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's the one element of his game 597 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: that you thought, hey, he's great in the red zone, 598 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't turn the football over, and now you're starting 599 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: to see these interceptions creep into this offense. You know, 600 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: I bring up the Titans because the Chargers are two 601 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: games back of the Titans. Unfortunately that loss to the Jags. 602 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: It it's gonna be really tough to kiss jackson Ville 603 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: if you're the Chargers. But I don't know. I'm in 604 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: the same boat as you. Just I don't really know 605 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: who the Titans are right now. Yeah, I'm not sure 606 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: they do. And I think maybe you know, there are 607 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: another one of these as The reason I think the 608 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: AFG is such a murky sort of swamp of mediocrity 609 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: right now is because you've got a lot of teams 610 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: like the Bills and the Titans and the Jaguars that 611 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: are just beginning their climb and beginning to transition towards, 612 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, a true identity. And I think that with 613 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: the Titans, yes, you know, they've got elements in place, 614 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: but they don't. It's sort of like last year with 615 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Where were the weapons around him? They provided 616 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: him with some, and you see a transformation in Philadelphia 617 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: with the quarterback but also with the rest of the team, 618 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: and the Titans are incomplete on offense. I think Corey 619 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Davis being injured for so much that this season hurt 620 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: that passing game. They just don't have a lot of 621 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: reliable weapons to save Mariota for him to really cling to. 622 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: And when the running game's not clicking, they're not when 623 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get into trouble for sure. You know here, I 624 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: trust Mariota more than I trust Tom Savage, So I'll 625 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: take the Titans. I'm not happy about it. I'm with you, 626 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: all right. Let's move on to this one. This one, gosh, 627 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Giants at Raiders, Mark and listen, no Eli, no Genoras Jenkins, 628 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: and really, I guess excuses for the Raiders. If you 629 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: don't win this one, then you're in big trouble. Yeah, 630 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean another team that's tough to trust because they're 631 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: not going to have Crabtree and wide out this week. 632 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: It looks like a Marii Cooper. You know, that's an 633 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: up and down situation, and so they're running in in 634 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Oakland has been really up and down as well. But 635 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: if you can't take care of this Giants team with 636 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: Gino Smith at quarterback, I think it's a Giants team that. Yeah, 637 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: you're going to get a couple of these teams every 638 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: year where coaching decisions and just the general you know, 639 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: fate of the team has been so ugly that you're 640 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: kind of listing as a sinking ship, and it probably 641 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: everyone inside the organization is wondering who's going to be employed, 642 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, a month and a half from now. So 643 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't pick the Raiders in 644 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: this situation because they're still clinging to life. They have 645 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: a real chance to still win the division potentially or 646 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: sneak into that sixth spot in a bad AFC. But 647 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: what the way the Giants handled this. And this is 648 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: not news to anyone. It's just that I grew up 649 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: in the New York City area and Tri State area 650 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and listened to wsa N every day of my childhood 651 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and cannot believe how New York the team. The Giants 652 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: have always been sort of the polar opposite of the 653 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Jets and of and of other you know, teams that struggle. 654 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: They've been consistent and they were classy, and the way 655 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: they handled this was so in such a different weird 656 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: way that it was. It's it's shocking the Giants fans, 657 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: they're upset. I can't believe that this is how they 658 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: handled the Eli Manning situation. I think it will go 659 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: down for a long time as one of the weirdest, 660 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: ugliest moments in New York sports, certainly in Giants history 661 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: and the seasons completely the floor falls out from here. 662 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they win another game. You can't 663 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: predict them too, and they have a massive rebuilding project underway. 664 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Did you hear the Francessa rant Mark yesterday? Yeah? Though 665 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I would. We listened to it in 666 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the news room, and I mean, and I just I 667 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: think Francessa who has a better grip on that team. 668 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that was best friends 669 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: close with Bill Parcels. He's seen every good and bad 670 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: moment in Giants history, and he appropriately, you know, described 671 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: what happened yesterday. It was. It's just it's an unbelievable 672 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: move that you can't look at. A lot of things 673 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: are going wrong in New York. Eli Manning is not 674 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: the same Eli Manning from you know, years past, but 675 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: he is. But benching him was not going to solve 676 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the situation. And getting some sort of longer look at 677 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Gino Smith is a laughable excuse. That's That's what I 678 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: don't understand, Mark is because listen, if you sold it 679 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: as Hey, we really like Davis Webb, who was a 680 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: third round pick. He's shown a lot of promise in practice. 681 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: The season's over, we want to give him a long look. 682 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would be a little bit 683 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: more palatable to Giants fans, but the fact that you're 684 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna go to Gino first, that's the concept I just 685 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: can't wrap my head around. I know Giants fans can't 686 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: wrap their head around it. Yeah, I completely agree that. 687 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Let's say they had Patrick Mahomes that had flashed in 688 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: the preseason, it looked like the future. I think that 689 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: the reaction would be still disappointing, because you know, New 690 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: York is different than any other city. You don't treat 691 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: your stars this way. You give them that final season 692 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: to go to every stadium to wave goodbye, to have parades, 693 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: to you know, to do the rounds. This was a 694 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: coaching staff in total disarray, handling this poorly, and it 695 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: probably came from above the coaching staff, because I don't 696 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: think they're even making this decision. But you're absolutely right, 697 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: there's no reason to try to sell us on the 698 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: fact that we need to get a look at Gino Smith, 699 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: because especially this is not Gino Smith coming from Kansas 700 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: City or from Seattle or some some you know, far 701 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: off locale. This is a guy that's completely failed in 702 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: the same stadium and the Jets, these guys already know 703 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: who Tino Smith is, so it was it is a 704 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: pr move for the Ages. Yeah, like I said, the 705 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Raiders don't really have a lot of excuses in this one. 706 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: And then they get to play the Cowboys without Ezekiel Elliott. 707 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: I believe next week or in two weeks whenever they 708 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: play the Cowboys. So they get a couple of breaks. 709 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Playing two NFC's opponents. Last one mark the Steelers at 710 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I believe this is a Monday night game. 711 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of a sneaky good game. The Bengals have 712 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: gotten themselves back into the mix two. They're five and six, 713 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: competing with the Chargers for that last wildcard spot. These 714 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: AFC North games, you know, wacky things can happen. What 715 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: do you see happening here? Pittsburgh has done a great job, 716 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, historically under Tomlin against the Bengals. I feel 717 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: like Big Ben has pretty much owned Andy Dalton. I 718 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: think that I like what big Ben had to say 719 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: and it was sort of a typical quarterback he quote. 720 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: But after Tomlin talked about, you know the fact that 721 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: he as a coach has looked ahead a little bit 722 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: towards the Patriots, not only in the regular season Week 723 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: fifteen game coming up, but also the fact that hey, 724 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: we think we'll play them in the playoffs. And Big 725 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: Ben said, look, the Bengals are going to try to 726 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: ruin our Christmas. We can't. We cannot look past Cincinnati. 727 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been a really I think milktoast, hard to 728 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: watch team, especially on offense. But what they did against 729 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: the Browns last week, and everyone can say, yeah, it's 730 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: the Browns, but Ounce came in with a top ten 731 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: run defense. We finally got the game from Bengals rookie 732 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon where he looked great and he was just 733 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: just building the ball. He did a good job there, 734 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: but catching the ball too. And you still have a 735 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: j Green And I really feel like the Bengals, who 736 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, there has been to some degree, I don't 737 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: see them as a real contender for that wildcard spot 738 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: that lasts one there. I much rather favor I think 739 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: the Ravens with their defense in that situation. But The 740 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: Bengals are the kind of team that, yeah, you don't 741 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: they could knock someone off. I don't think it's going 742 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: to be Pittsburgh right now. With the way that they're playing, 743 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: what they did on Sunday night, it just sort of 744 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: tells you the offense is clicking, the team is the 745 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: team is won seven straight. They really, I believe, you know, 746 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: at this point of hit their groove and some of 747 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: the stuff we were dealing with Big Ben. You know 748 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: what's happened to Big Ben, that kind of talk we 749 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: talked about September October, that's faded away. The defense, to me, 750 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's defense is really really solid, and so I just 751 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: think that I think this is a Pittsburgh type of 752 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: game where they go in and they handle business, and 753 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: it's not going to be It's gonna be like one 754 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: of these twenty three to thirteen type games. Last Sunday 755 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: was interesting because you know, Brett Hunley plays a really 756 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: good game against the Steelers. Honestly, but I always felt 757 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: like the Steelers knew they had it the entire time, 758 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, and it just it took that last drive. 759 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: It took that amazing catcher Antonio Brown to get in 760 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: the field goal range and eventually win the game. But 761 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: I just think that the Steelers when they are clicking 762 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: and they have everybody engaged, including Martavis Bryant, including Juju 763 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster, When they have all these guys clicking, oh gosh, 764 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. You almost you almost see a collision 765 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: course to the AFC Championship with the Patriots. Yeah. I 766 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: think I think in an in an AFC where it'd 767 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: be hard to pick a different combination for the title game. 768 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And the Steelers do 769 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: they let down against teams that are unfamiliar opponents. It's 770 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: not surprising to see them allow Green Bay kind of 771 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: hang around in that game. And they'll always have a 772 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: stink through every season against a team that should never 773 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: have a chance against them. But it doesn't happen against 774 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati historically. And they get up for the Ravens games, 775 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: and they get up for the Bengals games. They know 776 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: these opponents well. And I mean Andy Dalton's record against 777 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and his performance against Steeler the Steelers is really ugly, 778 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: and it's not against a level of defense that we're 779 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: seeing from Pittsburgh this year. I really think that, you know, 780 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk with the Ravens. The Steelers defense 781 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: is right there, if not better with the Ravens defense. 782 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: They're playing lights out of football this year. Mark, this 783 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: was fun, man. I really appreciate you coming on. Where 784 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: can people find you on Twitter? And where can they 785 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: find the wildly popular at n podcast. I'm on Twitter 786 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: at Mark Sessler, marc SCSSLR, NFL and the podcast. We 787 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: have a handle on basically around the NFL where all 788 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: our newses, but also our podcast is published there and 789 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: you can find us on NFL dot com and we 790 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: have we're on iTunes. We're getting back on Stitcher soon. 791 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: In the podcasts, essentially during the regular season, every Sunday night, 792 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: we wrap up every single game following Sunday Night Football, 793 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: so that publishes late Sunday night. We do a Tuesday 794 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: video and audio show, and we do a Thursday preview show, 795 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: which we'll do again tomorrow. It will come out usually 796 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: around four five o'clock Pacific times, so three times a week, 797 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: and then in the offseason we do it three times 798 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: a week with a couple different days in there as well. 799 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're out there. We publish a bunch of shows, 800 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: and if you haven't listened, give it a listen. You 801 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: do great work, but I really appreciate you on it today. 802 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: All right, man, I'll see USA. Thank you, hey, fans, 803 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: be there live to support the LA Chargers this season. 804 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: Always buy your Chargers tickets from our official ticketing partner, 805 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: Ticketmaster and the NFL Ticket Exchange. Only. Ticketmaster has verified 806 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: tickets that are one hundred percent guaranteed to get you 807 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: in every time. Other sellers can only guarantee they'll give 808 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: you a refund if they sell you a fraudulent ticket. 809 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: So go with a trusted source and our official partner, 810 00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: and no, you're going to the game. Team reporter Haley 811 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Ellwood joins me. And Haley, we have a lot to 812 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: get to, but let's start with Thanksgiving Day, even though 813 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: it feels like forever ago. The Chargers beat the Cowboys 814 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: twenty eight six. Philip Rivers turns in one of the 815 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: more memorable performances of his career, and he gets AFC 816 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week for it. What was the 817 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: overriding feeling from the locker room after the game. I 818 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: think the funny thing is as russ as the last 819 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: time you had me on after the Jacksonville losses. That 820 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: locker room was, This locker room was a complete one eighty. 821 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: It was awesome. I mean, guys were so excited, so happy. 822 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: It was the second decisive victory in a row for 823 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: this team, and I think it was a totally true 824 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: confidence builder. I think they had that confidence coming off 825 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: at the Bills game for sure, but then to go 826 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: to Dallas on a game that's like a landmark, you know, 827 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: that's a marquee Dallas Cowboys game right there, and come 828 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: out with a win that was huge, and that was 829 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: so exciting and I definitely made their Thanksgiving a lot better, 830 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: made the whole teams Thanksgiving better, actually for all of 831 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: us who were there, for sure, I bet. And you 832 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: know what, I guess I should mention it was also 833 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: your birthday, right, So happy Bully your birthday. How many 834 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: times have you shared Thanksgiving for your birthday? You know, 835 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: it's been a couple It's not like leap year status 836 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: where you can count every four years or something like that. 837 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: In fact, the last time I think it was supposed 838 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: to hit me, it was leap year and it skipped me. 839 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: So it's been a couple of times, but every now 840 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: every now and then I get to share it with Thanksgiving. 841 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: But it was an awesome time. It was an awesome 842 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was an awesome way to spend my birthday, 843 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: I guess you could say. And like I said, to 844 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: come out with a win even better. You know, Haley, 845 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: It's no coincidence. The last two weeks the team puts 846 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: on really two lights out performances and the main player 847 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: is Keenan Allen and just getting him involved. Were people 848 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: saying about the way Keenan has been playing over the 849 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: last two weeks. I think the biggest thing to look 850 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: at with Keenan is that he's returned to form. And 851 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I was talking with Matt money Smith after the game 852 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: against Buffalo a couple of weeks ago, because obviously put 853 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: up you know, two touchdowns in that game, had a 854 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: career high d yards in a single game last week 855 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, and I think we were saying, Keenan's finally, 856 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's finally healthy again, and not that he 857 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: wasn't at the beginning of the season, because he looked 858 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: good and he was, you know, doing Keenan Allen things, 859 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: but you kind of get the sense that he's back 860 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: He's returned to that player that he was when he 861 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: first entered the league, fully healthy and ready to go. 862 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: He's dynamic, and he makes plays. And on that specific 863 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: touchdown that he saw against the Cowboys, you look at 864 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: that play and the cuts that he made and you 865 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: kind of stamp back and just go slow. And when 866 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: you look at this team and where they are right now, 867 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: they are still obviously a game. You know, behind five hundred. 868 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: They can get back this week against against the Browns. 869 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: But when you look at this team and where they 870 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: are and where they're going, you want to get hot 871 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: in December, and if Keenan is also coming on at 872 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: this time, you know, watch out, like this team could 873 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: really honestly be dangerous for the next few weeks to come. Yeah, 874 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: things are good right now for the Chargers. I don't 875 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: think they have a team on their schedule that is 876 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: above five hundred other than the Chiefs. And one of 877 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: the benefits for the Chargers from playing on Thanksgivings, you 878 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: get that kind of that mini buy that comes with it. Right, 879 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: and now comes the Browns to town. They're owing eleven. 880 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: But forget the record, because I think coach Lynn all 881 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: he has to do is remind the team who the 882 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 1: Browns beat last season for their only win of the season. 883 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: And that was what he said. I mean, he had 884 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: said an his pressure on Monday that you know, I 885 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: may not have been here, but the guys in this 886 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: locker room who remember what happened and you definitely do 887 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: not want that to happen again. So I don't think 888 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: this team looking over or excuse me, overlooking the Browns, 889 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: I should say at all. Another thing this week, Hailey, 890 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: this Sunday, the players are going to be wearing their 891 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: own custom cleats as part of the NFL's might Cause 892 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: My Cleats initiative, And there's an unveiling earlier in the 893 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: week a lot of good looking cleats, but more importantly, 894 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: some amazing causes. Yeah, so the mic cause my cleats 895 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: saying is really really cool. This is the second season 896 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: that the NFL has done this that they allow. Obviously, 897 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: with uniform rules, guys can wear various cleats pre game, 898 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: but when the game, when the clock hits, you have 899 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: to change into your regular you know, NFL uniform and whatnot. 900 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: So this gives them the opportunity of opportunity to wear 901 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: these cleats throughout the game. And it is really cool 902 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: because there are cleats that showcase various causes that are 903 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: important to these guys, and we have I think almost 904 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: thirty players that are participating in this, and like you said, 905 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: without unboxing that happened earlier this week, some of the 906 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 1: cleats are really really awesome, and I think the neat 907 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: thing about it is that a lot of these causes 908 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: for some of the players hit them personally. Like Corey Legit, 909 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: his shoes look like a heart because he's supporting the 910 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: American Heart Association because he has a son who was 911 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: born with a heart defect, so he firsthand knows what 912 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: it's like to go through those challenges and is now 913 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: trying to help others who may not have, like he said, 914 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: the financial and insurance help and aid that he had. 915 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: And then you look at a guy like Tonio Gates 916 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: and he's supporting the Lupas Foundation of America because his 917 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: sister passed away from LUPAS. So these are causes that 918 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: are super important to these guys. And I think it's 919 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: one of those things where you look at an athlete 920 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: and you automatically think, Okay, well, these guys have platforms, 921 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: and so this is the ultimate way to spread awareness 922 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: because these are televised games, so it's really really cool. 923 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: It'll be really exciting, and I know the guys are 924 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: really into it and looking forward to Sunday. Yeah, it 925 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: was cool just to see all the stars of the 926 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: Charges in the same room unveiling their cleats and really 927 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: with that sense of pride that they get to you know, 928 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: it's bigger than themselves. They get to really showcase their 929 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: cause on a platform like an NFL Sunday. So let's 930 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. Let's keep the fashion 931 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: talk rolling though, Haley, because the Chargers they're they're two 932 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: and oh and they're powdered blues. They routed the bills 933 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: in the all Navies which are really clean, and this 934 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: Sunday we're going we're going all royal blue the air Correll. 935 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, so these are so it's not a color scheme, 936 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: we'll put that out there, but these are obviously the 937 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: color rush royal blue uniforms that the team wore last 938 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: year against a Denver Broncos. They're awesome. These these are 939 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: super cool and like you said, we've been on a 940 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: little fashion trend here. You went to the ball maybe 941 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: to the Powders to now the Royals, and again to 942 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: reiterate what you said, these are an homage to the 943 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: air Corel era. My favorite thing about them, and we 944 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: were getting some buzz on Twitter about this yesterday, is 945 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: the gold face masks. Because you have the white helmet. 946 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: It's a sharp, sharp look. But you have the white 947 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: helmet with the gold face mask and the royal blue 948 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: uniform with the gold accents obviously, and it looks really 949 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: cool and it's it's kind of silly when it's something 950 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: just kind of as small as that that can make 951 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: a difference, but it's a it's a sharp look and 952 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: they'll be looking I always like to insert the fire 953 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: emoji here, but they'll be looking pretty sweet on Sunday. No. 954 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: I always feel like it gives those guys like a 955 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: little bit of a little bit more confidence, you know, 956 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: rocket the powder blues and then you know you're wearing 957 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: you're wearing these really clean Royal blues on Sunday, and 958 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some some alumni, if I'm not mistaken 959 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: in the house. I think the Chargers do this every 960 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: year where they honor former Chargers players as well. Yeah, 961 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: so Sunday's a big day obviously with my cousem cleets 962 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: the Royal blue uniforms, and then it is, like you said, 963 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: Alumni weekend, so I believe more than sixty alumni will 964 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: it's ten Sunday's game. It's just a really cool way 965 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: for guys, you know, from the past to mingle with 966 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: guys that are presently on the team and even kind 967 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: of reconnect with guys that mate that they have made 968 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: that they may have I can talk a lot of 969 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: touch with so um, it'll be really neat, it'll be 970 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: really cool. And also it's kind of cool that they're 971 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: wearing the uniforms as like we've discussed in homage to 972 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: the Air Coyol era where some of those players will 973 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: likely be there on Sunday as well. Hailey, this locker room, 974 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: you and I talk each and every week. In the 975 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: first four weeks, it was just tough, you know, you go, 976 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: oh and four. Yeah, what's the contrast? Now now that 977 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: they're five and six, the division's kind of come back 978 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: to them a little bit. They're a game out of 979 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: the Wildcard, they're a game out of the AFC West, 980 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: and they have a schedule that looks pretty favorable and 981 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: they're playing their best ball. I think it's a level 982 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: of confidence. And I think Anthony Lynn had said this 983 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: after the game on Sunday that it never wavered. He 984 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: never felt that this team was going to lose. That 985 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: even when they were as tested as they were after 986 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: going over and ow and four, after dropping two in 987 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: a row, they never wavered. And that's to me the 988 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: sign of a really strong and a really good team 989 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: that you can go through those tough times. You could 990 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: face adversity, but then you can overcome it. And I 991 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: don't want to get too ahead of ourselves here, but 992 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: like you said, they have a favorable schedule to me 993 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: either peaking at the right time, and I think this 994 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: could be a really good run that they could potentially 995 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: go on just close out the season. It's just fun 996 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: to have meaningful football games in December, and you hope 997 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: to carry that over in January. So we'll see what 998 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: happens on Sunday. Look forward to seeing you at the 999 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: practice facility on Friday. Hailey. Thanks so much your time, 1000 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: and I guess every time we need a win, I 1001 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: gotta give you a call, right, yes, yeah, right, it worked, 1002 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: see you again. It worked. The first time, it worked 1003 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: the last time, and then hopefully this will I know 1004 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: we're coming off a win, but let's get three in 1005 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: a row and hopefully this will work again. You know 1006 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: how we have like like research thoughs before and after games. 1007 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: It could be like the Chargers are three in oz. 1008 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: When Haley ol Wood joins Chargers Weekly, I think that 1009 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: that's a next bullet point could be This could be 1010 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: a stat, This could be a great stat. Let's let's 1011 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: keep a roll in here. Thanks for having me on, Chris, 1012 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: and that's gonna do it for this week's episode. By 1013 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: thanks to Haley l Wood, Mary Kay Cabot, and Mark 1014 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: Sessler for joining me, and thanks to you all for listening. 1015 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: Be sure to download and subscribe to Chargers Weekly wherever 1016 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, and please leave review on iTunes. 1017 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: It helps us spread the words. We can get this 1018 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: to as many Chargers fans as possible. Enjoy the game 1019 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: Sunday is the Balls look to make it three straight 1020 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: and until next time, I'm Chris Hary