1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and I just 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: want to say this, in twenty twenty six, my new 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Year's resolution is to give you outstanding content. But I 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: want you to be able to see it. So please 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: hit that up button. Do me a favor. I want 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: your comments, I want your concerns. I want to hear 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: from you because I want to be the best in 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: this field and give you what you're looking for every 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: single time. So please join your boy week in and 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: week out, because I'm bringing it as best as I can. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: All love. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, Mitchell, and today 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Black Monday, we gotta talk about these firings and potential hirings. Ah, 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: these raiders, these raiders, Mentchell, Look, they can't get enough 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: of a bad thing. They love paying people that don't 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: play for them, don't coach for him. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: And I know Mark, and I. 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Can't wait to talk to him about this because I 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: don't know many people that pay as much as he 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: does for people not working for him anymore. But you know, 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: those are the kind of relationships he has and I 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to be a part of that. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: But some of these are really good jobs. I think 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons is a good job. I think there 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: can be an argument for the Arizona Cardinals job for somebody, 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: not me, not me per se, but the Tennessee Titans, Richard. 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: I'll say this, Pete Carroll talk about a heck of 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: a retirement plan for him. Man goes over coaches one 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: year with the Raiders, makes his earnings that year, and 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: gets a cool sixteen million. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: Dollars to set out in the retirement. Man. 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: Let's get into some of these your guy, Pete Carroll 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: fired after one year by the Raiders, Kevin Stefanski gets 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: kicked to the curve, Jonathan Gannon fired by the Cardinals, 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Rahie Morris by the Falcons, Brian Callahan obviously in season 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 3: by the Titans, Dayball and season by the Giants, Richard, 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: Before we get into the nuts and bolts of each 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: one of these openings, what is your favorite opening? If 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: you were a head coach, who would you Which team 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: would you most want to land at. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: If I was a coach, I'd probably want to land 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: either with the Falcons or the Giants. I just feel 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: like the Falcons have a lot of weapons offensively. We 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: could talk about Bajon Robinson. We could talk about the 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: guys Pierce and the guys they have defensively that they 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: drafted this year. I think this was a fantastically underrated 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: draft class that they had. The quarterback situation, you're gonna 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: need to bring in a veteran is Pennick's going to 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: be the guy who knows. Thank goodness, you guys kept 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. He played really well in some of those 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: games and gave him a chance to win those games 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: at the end. And I thought they did enough to 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: say Raheem Morris's job, but obviously not. And the one 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: thing I do like about this is that they didn't 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: just blame Raheem Morris because I don't think it was 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: on him. I think he deserves another, deserved another year. 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: I thought his team was fighting for him. They hadn't 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: given up on him. They were ready to going in 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: next season with a momentum winning that last game of 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the season. 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: And you fired a coach. 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I thought, I don't think that's the right decision, but 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: you fired Terry Fonto, and I think the reason you 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: fired Terry fin No is what we talked about. One 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: of the most head scratching moves in the NFL in 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: a number of years, was you pay Kirk Cousins fifty 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: million coming off from achilles injury, and then you draft 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the top ten, A move that doesn't 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: make sense in terms of roster building. Now, there were 70 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: some other moves that he made that made a lot 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: of sense. That this draft class I thought would have 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: been enough to save his job, but that the quarterback 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: is such an important position, and he tied up so 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: much money in Kirk Cousins and so much draft capital 75 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: at the same position that if it doesn't work out, 76 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: it's going to cost you your job. And I'd said 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: that when when when it first initially happened, and look, 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: look what happened. It didn't work out. He got fired, 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: and you get your head coach fired. And I think 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that's the most frustrating part for me, is you get 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris fired. And it's not necessarily his decision, but 82 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: I have to live with the decisions a GM makes. 83 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: That's why I don't think a lot of the coaches 84 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be excited about this Giant's job because I mean, 85 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Joe Shane, You're not gonna go into that job trusting 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: that he's gonna make the right decisions. He has, He's 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: made some good decisions, He's made some obvious decisions, and guys, 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: you got a draft, but letting sakuon Barkley walk and 89 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: just all the footage of surrounding it, it's gonna be 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: a bad look for years to come and any coach 91 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: coming in. There aren't many established coaches that are gonna 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: come in and be like, so, he's he's making all 93 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: the decisions, he's making. 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: All the calls. 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't have any say so, no, I'm not taking 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: this job. And so it's gonna limit their field. So 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how that coaching search goes because 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I can't see an established coach saying, hey, I'm gonna 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: go in here and yeah this this hierarchy works for me, 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe a young desperate coach, but not a great one. 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: What is your least favorite job opening, because obviously there's 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: a couple that stand out the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders. 103 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: Obviously a couple franchises that have been dealing with internal battles. 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: You know, you got a lot of questions in Cleveland 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: with who's going to be the quarterback? Is it should 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: or do they go a different direction? Do they keep 107 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel and have a QB competition? The Raiders, which 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: are a complete mess. They're turning through coaches like it's nothing. 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: And then obviously the Titans. I mean, ever since they 110 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: fired Mike Vrabel, got rid of A. J. Brown, Derrick Henry, 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: the franchise has been in the dumps. But let's talk 112 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: about this Las Vegas Raiders, because I have a feeling 113 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: you're going to go that direction. Richard, your thoughts on 114 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: your boy Pete Carroll getting dumped after one season? I mean, 115 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: we knew it wasn't going to be a long term 116 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: higher for them with given his age, But did you 117 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: see this coming after one season? 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming. 119 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: And the reason I didn't see it coming because I 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: didn't think they would be that impatient, Like, sure, this 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: was a rough year. Obviously, Chip Kelly wasn't the guy 122 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: they thought he was he was. I didn't think he 123 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: was the guy for the job when they first hired him. 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: He's shown that his system doesn't necessarily work in the 125 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: National Football League. It works in college, and it works 126 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: well in college, and that should be celebrated, but not 127 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: working in the National Football League, So it's odd that 128 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Pete would have hired him when he's played him, we've 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: played as an opponent and we've had a lot of 130 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: success against that system. So I thought they would give 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: him another chance another year to continue to establish the culture. 132 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Also knowing that they're paying other coaches, your previous coaches 133 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: a lot of money, and now you add another coach 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: to that. They're paying now Antonio Pierce eight million dollars, 135 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel ten million dollars, John Gruten ten million dollars, 136 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sixteen million dollars, and Chip Kelly six Who 137 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: signs up for that, like, you don't That's why you 138 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: don't fire him. If nothing else, you don't fire him 139 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: because you don't want to be paying another coach to 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: not coach for your team. And I think that's the thing. 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: The issue that I have with all of this is 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? How do you think anybody's 143 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: ever going to have success with this if you don't 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: give him more than a year. And it just looks 145 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: like malpractice in terms of running an organization in every way, 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: because sure, if you keep Pete, you're gonna have some 147 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: some rumblings and rumblings the all season about Hey, is 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: he the right guy? Is he gonna hire the right coordinator? 149 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: But there's so much impatience in this world. It's such 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: a microwave society. Hey, we don't get wins right now. 151 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: We need to change that has not worked for you. 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: That didn't work when you fire McDaniels, It didn't work 153 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: when you fired Pierce, It didn't work when you fired 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. It's not going to work. Stick with somebody right, 155 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: wrong or indifferent. Give them a few years to figure 156 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: it out. And if you're not giving Pete Carroll like 157 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: after a while, it seems like it's you. Menchell, it 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: seems like it's you. When it keeps happening and you 159 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: keep firing guys, then it might be a Raiders problem 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: and less. 161 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Of a coach's problem. 162 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Like it's a reason you keep doing it, and you're 163 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: not going to have success doing that. I think that's 164 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of what's wrong in today's society that, Hey, 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: things don't work out immediately, players don't work out, in media, 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: cut him, fire him, transfer like I'm uncomfortable, Like be 167 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: comfortable and uncomfortable. There's so many things that have become 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: great because guys were patient and they worked on it, 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and they gundered at it, they stayed at it. If 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: you gave up every time seven didn't work out immediately, Mitchell, 171 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have anything in this week. 172 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: You know what, Richard, I appreciate that rant because we're 173 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: seeing it right now this week as a transfer portal 174 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: is open in the college football world and there's four 175 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: thousand players in the transfer portal. They said that thirty 176 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: three percent of college football players are in this portal, 177 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: and from what I saw, it was like only sixty 178 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: percent or forty percent of those players will end up 179 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: playing D one football next year. 180 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's absurd, Richard. 181 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: I know this is an NFL podcast and we only 182 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: talk NFL, but you got to talk to me about 183 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: this college football transfer portal because to me, it's getting outrageous. 184 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: I saw a kid is getting paid. I believe it's 185 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: from sincey. You're getting paid to go to Texas Tech 186 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: making something like five million dollars next year. He's gonna 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: get paid more than a first round draft pick. Would 188 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: How ridiculous do you think this is or do you 189 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: like this new era of college football? 190 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: I like that. I like them getting paid. I don't 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: like them chasing the money. 192 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I don't like people being able to transfer after one 193 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: year because you're uncomfortable because you didn't get the. 194 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: Starting job that you didn't deserve. 195 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't like kids just saying, hey, I don't want 196 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: to have to fight for anything, and if you're not 197 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna just give it to me on a silver platter, 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm walking away, Like what does that build? What does 199 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: that building these young men? And that's why I like 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos did because this 201 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: last draft, they said, hey, we're not drafting guys that transfer. 202 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: We're drafting guys that played over forty games for their 203 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: for their respective teams. 204 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: And they stayed put and they fought through it. 205 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: Hey, they got through what they need to get through, 206 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: because in the National Football League, you're not going anywhere 207 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: for three four years. 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: Not good players. 209 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: If you're a good player, great player, all pro player, 210 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: you're probably not leaving. You're not leaving for five, six, 211 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: seven years. You're gonna see a couple contracts if you're 212 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: really great. And if you're telling me every guy we draft, 213 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: nobody stayed anywhere more than two years, three years, then 214 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: how can we expect them to stay here that long? 215 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: How can we expect to be able to keep them occupied? 216 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: And so I think it's creating a problem in the 217 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: National Football League. But you also give credit the Denver 218 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Broncos are drafting right, developing right, and look at him 219 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: number one seed in AFC with a very young team. 220 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: Young quarterback. Obviously, both Nicks is a different story. 221 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: He drafted bow Knicks and he transferred and played about 222 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: twelve years in college. So clearly the draft strategy has 223 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: it is adjusted and evolved. But I think there has 224 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: to be some kind of rule. Like back in my day, 225 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, feeling like a old guy in the Pac ten, 226 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: you couldn't transfer without sitting out a year, and it 227 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: deterred a lot of that. You could not sit if 228 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: you transferred, you're sitting out a year. And if they 229 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: put a rule like that, hey, if you transferred, you 230 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: can't transfer again for a year, I think it would 231 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: change the entire portal. If they said, hey, if you transfer, 232 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: you gotta stay for at least a year, at least 233 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 1: two years, I think it changes the whole game. And 234 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: if they they're gonna have to do something to fix it, 235 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: because this is giving guys too much of an easy 236 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: way out. And then some guys are leaving callus and 237 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: never coming back. They're never getting picked back up. 238 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: You think the grass is greener, and then you end 239 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: up without grass. 240 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: You're on the streets, concrete as fault under your feet, 241 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: nowhere to go. Now you're looking dumb, trying to call 242 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: back your old school. Man, I want that whole thing back, 243 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: but they don't want you field your spot, baby, Like 244 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: that's the world we live it in. Kids don't be 245 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: so quick to go nowhere because you might end up nowhere. 246 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: Preach, Richard, preach. 247 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: They need you on a soapbox somewhere, Richard. I'm with you, man, 248 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: I see these kids transferring it every day. You just 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: gotta wonder, what do they think? Grass is not always greener? 250 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: On the other side, what happened to the days of 251 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: old where you're you're staying in school three years, you know, 252 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: you're a red shirt junior and you're finally starting Like 253 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: that's when the DNA of these teams really starts to 254 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: take over. It's a shame because I think the true 255 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: college sports and the pride of being an alumni of 256 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: these universities getting sucked away when you're rooting for guys 257 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: that you don't even know you're and you're out. But 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: that's enough on that topic. Let's get back to Pete Carroll. Richard, 259 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: we talked about it last year before he got hired 260 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: on with the Raiders, when he was let go by 261 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: the Seahawks. What do you think's next for him? I 262 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: got a proposition for you, Richard. You need an in 263 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: week co host, and I would love nothing more than 264 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: to have Pete Carroll be your in week co host. 265 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: You guys, we love you guys, We love our listeners, 266 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: are subscribers. If we can, please get it some bandwig 267 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: and some momentum behind getting Pete on this podcast routinely, Richard, 268 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: that's me putting my. 269 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: Voice out there for this to happen. 270 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Hey, I would love for that to happen. 271 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: He's a great football mind, a great football human, a 272 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: person that loves the game and has been with this 273 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: game and part of this game for a very long time. 274 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: I would love to be a part of him, be part. 275 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: Of this show and continuing to educate the fans about 276 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: what's going on in this league. His thoughts and I'm 277 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: sure he would have something to say about how things 278 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: shook out in Seattle and with the Raiders. 279 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: So I bring my up mom there for that before 280 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: we leave the Raiders. Richard, there's one other question. Max 281 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Crosby was a little ticked off, to say the least, 282 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: that they did not let him play in the last game, 283 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: in fact, that he walked out of practice. Do you 284 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: think the time is up for Max Crosby in Las Vegas, 285 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: especially seeing what we're seeing with Miles Garrett in Cleveland. 286 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: You know, I know the guy's gonna get paid. He's 287 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: already gotten paid. I know he's gonna get paid a 288 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: lot more. But something tells me Max wants to win. 289 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: Do you think it would make sense for the Raiders 290 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: to trade Max Crosby given the state of their franchise 291 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: right now, it. 292 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Would make a lot of sense. I don't think Max 293 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: Crosby's gonna go. He's a quintessential Raider from from the heart. 294 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: He's what they desire when about a Raider. Al Davis 295 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: would be very proud that he's a Raider, and so 296 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere. He doesn't want to 297 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: go anywhere, and they don't want to trade him, So 298 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's much of a talking point. He's 299 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: frustrated because he's a ballplayer, a true old school guy. 300 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: I want to play every snap. 301 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. 302 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: He's not a guy who would take rest days, Mitchell. 303 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like a guy if he was in 304 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the NBA where he's taking the vet days and he's 305 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: taking the rest days. Oh, back to back, I'm playing 306 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: every he's playing eighty two. So I think that's just 307 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: his personality. But I don't think he's going anywhere. I 308 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: think it cooler heads will prevail. He'll be a Raider Richard. 309 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: You know what, you know where he went to college? 310 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Where do you go, Mitchell? 311 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: In my home state, Eastern Michigan University. Man, he was. 312 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: He was an Eagle from Eastern Michigan University. And you 313 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: know what, he don't need so much money to the 314 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: school that they named the field after him. So that 315 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: goes to show you the type of player that he is. 316 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: He played in the MAC he rows above everything all 317 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: this adversity. Unfortunately, my Detroit Lions did not recognize the 318 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: talent in their own backyard. 319 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: But kudos to the Raiders. 320 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: Man because he's a hell of a football player, someone 321 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: I would love to have on my team, no question 322 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: about it. Let's turn the page to the Cleveland Browns. 323 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski, two time Coach of the Year, gets the 324 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: boot in Cleveland. 325 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people saw this coming. 326 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: Who do you think is happier Cleveland fans to see 327 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: him go or Kevin Stefanski do the heck out of there. 328 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably mutual mentor this is one of 329 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: those mutual partings where I think the it had run 330 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: its course. This was not a microwave decision. They gave 331 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: him time, multiple Coaches of the Year, he did some 332 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: good things in Cleveland. I think both sides can walk 333 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: away saying, hey didn't go exactly like we planned, but 334 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: we had some good times. Remember our good times. We'll 335 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: hug and we'll walk away. Cleveland's a tough place to win. 336 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: You can tell by the record in the history of 337 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: the franchise. It's a tough place to win. You can 338 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: tell because people because Bill Belichick felt like it was 339 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: where he should send his players when he didn't want 340 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: him anywhere. It's a tough place to win and so 341 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: but they do have talent. They have a talented defense. 342 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: They gave everybody hell and you can see Denzel Ward 343 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: he wants Jim Schwartz to be the head coach because 344 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: they hed they have played great defense. I don't care. 345 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Every offense that walked in there to Cleveland would would 346 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: tell you and give them a lot of respect. It's 347 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: a tough out. 348 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: Now. 349 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Offensively, we'll be be nice and say they're figuring it out. 350 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: They got to figure out who the quarterback is gonna be, 351 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: what the system is gonna be, what the identity is 352 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna be. But they got Judakins. I think he's a 353 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: good player. I think Fanning is a good player. I 354 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: thought Chador showed some flashes. I think they still got 355 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: really good offensive linemen and they can always use more. 356 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: You can never have too many good offensive linemen. But yeah, 357 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I think Chador should be the starter 358 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: going into the season. But it's clear that they're gonna 359 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: change a lot of things going forward. So we'll see 360 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: if the next coach feels the same way. 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: And you already you already touched on the Falcons and 362 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: you listed them was one of your favorite spots. But 363 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: at Terry Fotto and I know we talked about it briefly, 364 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: but going back to that heads scratching decision with Kirk 365 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: Cousins being signed and then ultimately drafting Michael Pennix Junior, 366 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: you know that's going to be the Achilles shield that 367 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: finally snapped with this relationship. 368 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: Seeing what this season came down to. 369 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: There's a lot of weapons in Atlanta, and like you said, 370 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: this team, they technically tied for first in their division, Richard, 371 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: the NFC South, one of the best divisions in football. 372 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: They tied for first, man, So you know, we got 373 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: to see what happens in Atlanta. 374 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 375 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: I think that's the best spot for any aspiring head coach. 376 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: But what do you think about these Arizona Cardinals. You know, 377 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: that was one that I was more surprised to see. 378 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: I know Gannon didn't have the best run there, but 379 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: I mean he obviously dealing with Kyler Murray. That's not 380 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: a hand that he was necessarily happy to be dealt 381 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: and especially with that injuries there. But do you like 382 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: Arizona's chances? Do you like that position at all for 383 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: a head coach. 384 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to address that in a second, but you 385 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: all right, Mitchell. 386 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm good. 387 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: What did I say? 388 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: You just called one of the best visions and football, 389 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to make sure what you got 390 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: in you come over there, Mitchell. 391 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: What hey, I'm drinking some spark I'm drinking some sparkling water, Richard. 392 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: But I stand by that man. The NFC South, this 393 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: is the first team the first division have three, you know, 394 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 3: first place teams technically, if you think about it. 395 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: So I'll think about some places, Mitchell. 396 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Some places in Mitchell, first place in last place don't 397 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: look that much different. But that's the story for a 398 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: different day, in a different night, in a different fight. 399 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: But Arizona Cardinals job is not a job I wouldn't 400 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: want either. They're trying to figure out how to get 401 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: out of Kyler Murray's contract. They found a very creative 402 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: way to tell him to sit, sit down, and go home. 403 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: The offense runs better when you're not here. So what 404 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: do you do when a new coach comes in? Kyler 405 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Murray is still under contract. He's gonna expect to come back. 406 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: You drafted Marvin Harrison really high, so you hold him 407 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: in high regard. But Michael Wilson is the best receiver 408 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: on that that football team, and so there's some things 409 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: that are issues with that team. A lot of talent. 410 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I think there's talent on both sides of the football, 411 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: but the way things are perceived by the outside world 412 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: versus the actual on the field, who's the best player, 413 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Like you need to draft a quarterback. 414 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: You clearly you can't win with Kyler. 415 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: Like Kyler's had some good games, He's had some success 416 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, He's either answer in Arizona. 417 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so, and it's for a number of reasons. 418 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: But I also think forcing the ball to Marvin Harrison 419 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Junior when you have better receivers on the football field 420 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: is also an issue. But you have to force it 421 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: to him because you've drafted him so high. So I 422 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: think so many things like that are gonna have to 423 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: be an issue. So you got to get a coach 424 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: with a pedigree and with his own resume to be 425 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: able to come in here and say, hey, best men 426 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: play and we're throwing the ball to whoever is the 427 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: most effective on this football field, and then we can play. 428 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: Maybe Marvin Harrison becomes the best receiver out there for 429 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: that team, but he's not right now. So it's not 430 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: a job I would sign up for. The NFC West 431 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: is really tough football. You got two of the best 432 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: coaches in the National Football League. There are three of 433 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the best coaches, honestly, and Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald, Sean McVay, 434 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: you stepping in the murderers row. 435 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: In terms of Kyler Murray, do you think he's a 436 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: guy that there would be a market for if they 437 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: open up a trade for him. 438 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure there would be in market for him somewhere 439 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: because he's a serviceable NFL quarterback. I think he can start, 440 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: he can win some games. He's exciting, he's dynamic with 441 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, but he's also shown a 442 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: propensity to lack the leadership that you expect at the position. 443 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: There's been concerns about his preparation going into games and 444 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: things like that in question marks that he'd have to 445 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: answer for another organization. But I'm sure right now if 446 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the Jets don't get the guy they want to draft. 447 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the guys they put at quarterback 448 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: this year, I don't know are starting for the JV 449 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: team out in Texas, but you know, whatever. 450 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: And before we leave this subject, Richard who are some 451 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: of the the the guys to keep an eye on here, 452 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: the prospective offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators that were vying for 453 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: these head coaching positions. 454 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: My guy, Jeff Hafley is gonna be a name that 455 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: gets a lot of love. Lafloor, Mike Laflour, not the 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: Matt Laflour that you guys all love in Green Bay. 457 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Weaver out of Miami. Uh Stefans. He's 458 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna get some love. He's gonna get some some conversations, 459 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: no question about that. Chris Shula out out in l A. 460 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm missing. I'm missing. Who am I missing? I saw 461 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Matt Naggi's getting an interview. I'm not one hundred percent 462 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: sure about that, but he's getting an interview. 463 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: Dave Bo, Brian dabol will get interviews. I'm missing some 464 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: of these offensive minds. Help me out here. 465 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: You think Robert Salah gets another look at all? 466 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Richard, Oh, Salah would definitely get a look. I think 467 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: he'll he'll get a look, but he'll be very selective 468 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: with where he goes. He has his he has his 469 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: eyes on certain places, and I'm sure he could be 470 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: very selective. We'll say with Kubiak. Yep, Clint Kubiak is 471 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: getting interviews out of Seattle. So there's a number of 472 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: guys that that that really have a chance, and we'll see. 473 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: Everybody wants the next offensive genius. Everybody wants the next 474 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: great offensive mine, and we'll see how that works out. Oh, Flores, 475 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: Flores is getting a lot of a lot of love, 476 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. We're hearing his name in a 477 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of places. So we'll see maybe maybe Flores gets 478 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders job and turns them into a defensive juggernaut 479 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: and has some fun. 480 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Well, Richard, a sad day for a lot of former 481 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: head coaches, but you know, exciting times, I guess for 482 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: all these teams looking for new head coaches. It kicks 483 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: off Black Monday, as they call it. Richard, it's been 484 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: a heck of a time talking about this with you. 485 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: I will let you sign us off, my friend. 486 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you guys joining us. You could 487 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: be anywhere in the world, but you hear with us, 488 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: and we surely do appreciate it. We'll see you next 489 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: time for this playoff preview. It's gonna be a lot 490 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: of fun to talk about these teams can't wait hit 491 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: that's up. But if you