WEBVTT - A “Highly Premeditated Act” by a Highly Decorated Former Marine 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.960 Hey there, folks. It is Monday, September twenty ninth, and 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:10.480 it appears there was a tragedy before the tragedy we 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.600 saw this weekend in North Carolina, a mass shooting that 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.520 left several people dead. But now we're learning more about 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.040 the shooter and it sounds as if a lot of 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:27.160 people might have failed this guy. And with that, welcome 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.040 to this episode of Amy and TJ. I don't know 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.199 if that's going too far this early ropes and saying that, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.280 but a story is developing of a guy who needed help, 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.360 and a lot of people knew needed help, and now 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:40.760 here we are. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.800 Look, we don't normally, and for very serious and specific reasons, 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.479 don't talk much about the gunman or the shooters when 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.680 you have mass tragedies, because on principle, you don't want 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.800 to elevate or somehow make this terrible act the person 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.760 who committed it elevated to a way where somehow a 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.319 copycat would want that kind of attention or feel like 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.399 they've gained some sort of notoriety. But in this specific case, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:13.440 we are talking about a highly decorated marine who gave 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.720 truly his life, nearly his life for his country. When 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.080 you actually hear what happened to him while he was 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.280 fighting for our country in operation of Rocky Freedom. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:28.800 You will. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.840 Be amazed at what this young man endured, what he 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:40.160 came through, and then the disabilities that he was left 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.920 with were not We didn't take care of our own. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.400 We did not protect this young man from himself when 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:55.400 he incurred life threatening, catastrophic injuries in war. We didn't 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.280 make sure he was okay when he got back. And 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.480 that is so sad. And that's why this story is it, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.960 like you said, a tragedy compounding another tragedy. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.480 It's it's bizarre oftentimes that a picture starts to develop 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.440 this quickly right after a shooting like this. And it 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:17.280 is bizarre because now included in this bizarre story is 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.400 him side by side on a red carpet with a 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.359 country music star. Yeah right, Kelly Pickler. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.200 Kelly Pickler, American idol of American idol fan. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.520 Okay, this part of the story comes up. Now, what 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.440 is he doing there? Why is he there? That kind 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:35.000 of quite frankly adds to who he was, how highly 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.639 regarded he was. We're going to rejoy his list of vocolade. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.560 It was crazy and we'll get into why he was 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.239 next to Kelly Pickler, but that added to this story 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:47.360 Robes as we see a guy who for all intents 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.799 and purposes, was on a particular path in life, went 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:58.640 to war and somebody forgot about him. Yeah, I mean somebody. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.840 This is and we're talking about a guy who had 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:07.119 a history of mental health issues according to authorities well documented. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.040 And his family too. His mother absolutely weighed in on 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.000 it as well. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.919 And essentially was screaming, this dude needs help, my son 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.640 needs help. Now we're not This is not a time 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:21.560 obviously to be pointing fingers. The blame goes to the shooter. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.760 He pulled the trigger, he did what he did. But 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.320 it's difficult. This is a tough one, Roles, because we 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.760 always we want to look he did this very evil 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.920 thing as the evil person. That's the end of the story. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:34.600 This is just the beginning of the story. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.200 Well, we're always looking for the why, and we almost 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.160 never get it. In these types of shootings, these mass shootings, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:45.960 they're unexplained, they're puzzling. This one, we actually can connect 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.520 the dots, it seems with you know, and this is 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.680 pretty This is within hours of this tragedy happening but 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.080 we can already see what happened and what, more importantly 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.800 didn't happen, and how we can prevent That's what this 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:01.880 is all about, right, We want to prevent things like 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.360 this from happening again. And there were warning signs and 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.600 there were massive holes in our healthcare system that let 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.480 down this at the time, young man, which ultimately led 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.040 to this tragedy. A lot of people could clearly connect 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.839 those dots. So we're talking about just to get you 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.320 up to speed. I'm sure you're aware of what happened, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.960 but we're talking about forty year old Nigel Edge. And 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.160 he's changed his name recently, but it all speaks to 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.240 his mental health issues because he was trying to distance 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.520 himself from his family because he was paranoid. He will 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:42.039 get into all of his mental health issues. But he 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.360 was shot in the head in the line of duty 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.880 while serving our country and then he turned around and 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.479 shot three people in the head. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.279 That was a detail. Yeah, that was a detail we 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.160 got from his court appearance today. He did make a 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.960 first court appearance, and yeah, that was They said all 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.479 the victims were in the head. So we had three 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:06.080 dead and eight injured in the incidents, which was bizarre 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.000 and also in that he opened fire on them from 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.919 a boat. So he essentially pulled up to one of 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.880 those many people who've been to these types of places. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.760 They're right there on the water. People are sitting out 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.000 at night and enjoying music. It's a good time. People 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.800 can pull up their boats and hop out and they 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.200 go to dinner and whatnot. And he pulled up in 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.600 a boat and fires from the boat and what authorities 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:31.480 called a highly premeditated attack. This is in Southport, North Carolina. Ropes. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.280 This is an area you know, well, you said, this 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.400 is a gorgeous area and what thirty or so miles 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:37.240 outside of Wilmington. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.120 Yes, this is a coastal, beautiful North Carolina town, picturesque 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.039 and authorities say the people who were shot were mostly tourists. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.800 These weren't locals. These were people who came to the area. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.000 It was a beautiful Saturday night. And actually they believe 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.039 now from what they've gathered, he actually intended on committing 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.000 this violence on Friday night, because they have witnesses and 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.800 surveillance putting him in the exact same area on his 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.480 boat with the lights off on Friday when another boat 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.520 came by he turned his lights on, they believe decided 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.039 to wait until the next day. But it was Saturday night, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.000 around nine thirty at night. People were outdoor on this 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.799 deck listening to a live band, live music on the water, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:25.720 and he was there with a automatic rifle a scope. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.839 And he is a trained sniper. That was his job 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.480 as a marine. He was a sniper who was trained 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.799 to kill, and so when he started firing, he didn't 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.799 just indiscriminately. It looks as though he pointed and aimed 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.200 at these poor victims' heads. And that is what the 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.520 prosecutor said today in court. They are considering the death 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:54.640 penalty given the severity of his crime and the impact 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.880 it's had. But the motive is still under investigation. But 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.760 when we get into his what he's been doing over 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.320 the last decade or so, it'll become clear that there 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.240 might not be a motive. But we can understand how 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.600 possibly this happened because of where he was mentally. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.800 He had grievances clearly with his parents, with the government, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.239 with the hospital, with the police, with all kinds of folks. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.080 But he was in court today, made an appearance this afternoon. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.000 He's charged with three counts of murder, five counts of 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.440 attempted murder. They do expect to add charges as well. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.120 Now what else, Yeah, actually you had you had the 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.800 notes there? Anything else when needs be pointing out from court? 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.440 Well, the big thing was that prosecutors told the victims 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.960 told the court excuse me, that the victims were shot 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.720 on the head. But the prosecutors were very quick to 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.160 point out that it was disturbing. They said, the precision 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.080 of the violence. Oh wow, they actually made that point. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.840 But again, he's a trained sniper, so that actually shouldn't 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.600 be that surprising any us. They talked about how they 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.800 do believe he scoped out at the released the scene 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.560 the night before, but they do suggest that maybe he 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.840 intended on committing his act on Friday versus Saturday. But 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.360 when they searched his home he owns he has a home, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.480 a boat, and a vehicle. They said they found multiple firearms. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.559 They did not say whether or not any of those 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.120 were the firearms used in the attack, but they did 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:22.760 say he had multiple firearms. Now, the reporters who were 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.400 able to witness the hearing, he did appear via zoom 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:32.280 from his jail cell, they say he was emotionless, that 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.040 he remained silent during the hearing. He had requested a 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.800 court appointed attorney, and there's going to be another hearing 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.120 next month, October thirteenth, I believe. And it was quick 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.120 and to the point, but we did get an idea 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.920 of where the prosecutors are in this and they do 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.960 believe they will possibly seek the death penalty. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.360 Okay, So this was Nigel Edge is what he goes 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.600 by now, But a couple of years ago he changed 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.320 his name from Sean William deba voice now that was 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.080 his name ancient in twenty twenty three. The reason he 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.959 gave at the time for wanting to change his name 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.640 was that he thought there have been a lot and 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.640 I'm quoting here, there have been a lot of events 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.000 in my life that I don't understand. Therefore, I do 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.119 not trust my family and I would feel more comfortable 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.720 starting my life in a new path with a new name. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.280 That is just the start of a lot of bizarre 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.840 things we're kind of finding out about his background. What's 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.160 not bizarre to hear this Robes a marine from two 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.240 thousand and three to two thousand and nine, deployed Operation 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.040 a Rocky Freedom twice two thousand and five, two thousand 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:44.640 and six. His list of awards, ribbons, and accolades is 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:45.440 hero stuff. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.600 It's unbelievable. So he these were his awards. I mean, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.720 these are the highest honors. When we say a highly 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.160 decorated marine. This is about as highly decorated as you 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.760 can get. He had a purple heart. He received the 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.640 Marine Corps Good c Conduct Medal, Combat Action Ribbon for 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:07.120 service in Iraq see Service Deployment Ribbon, two Bronze Stars, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.920 a Humanitarian Service Medal, a National Defense Service Medal, and more. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.360 I mean, the list goes on and on. He was 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.439 it appears to be a model, exemplary marine. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.360 And he was injured, right, so there's still we don't 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.040 have all the details about exactly what happened to him, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:32.720 but he was injured pretty severely. It appears during his service. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.959 Now he went on. Now he stayed in the area. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:38.640 What was the name of the town, I don't have 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.079 it in front of him. Southward, but that was another 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:42.480 town he was from. But they said he had been 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.680 in the area for several years and in that time. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.079 In the past several years, he has been filing lawsuit 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:53.320 after lawsuit after lawsuit against just about everybody and to 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.640 the point where the judge had to issue in order 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:01.320 to get him to stop filing lawsuit. Correct, it got 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.000 that kind of bad. To give you an idea. He 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:09.560 has sued police departments, hospitals, a church, all for various 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.400 and bizarre sounding reasons. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.240 Bro Yes in the church he sued back in May, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 he accused the church of trying to make him commit 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:22.400 suicide because quote, he is not lgb QT or a pedophile, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.920 so he got it a little mixed up that acronym. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.880 But that is bizarre, obviously. And then when he made 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.120 the claim against his parents, including that they falsified a 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.199 birth certificate for a feral child, his mother in response, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.360 this is all in court documents, you can read it. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.120 This is her quote. Plaintiff suffers from war injuries, and 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.760 he suffers from delusions and PTSD. The VA needs to 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.160 take care of him with three exclamation points. That is 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.559 from his mother, Sondra, in response to the lawsuit one 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.360 of the lawsuits he filed against them and his own parents. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.320 You know what we didn't mention as well, the severity 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.800 of his injuries we were talking about. Came back and 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.080 was told he was not going to walk. He switched 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:08.120 hospitals and stuck at it and was ended up, yes, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.320 walking again, but he was told he wouldn't walk again. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.560 You know what's crazy. There was a news story about him. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.079 I mean, this was a kid who was I say 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:15.800 a kid. He's forty years old now, but this was 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.280 a man who will get into all of the things 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.840 he did when he came back. But he was a 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:22.480 news story. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:23.360 He was a big deal. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.840 So the Wilmington Star News described him as a marine 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.640 sniper who'd been left for dead after being shot four times, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.880 including in the head, during a raid on a warehouse 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.480 in a rock. This happened in May of two thousand 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.280 and six, and they were the story that they were 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:38.920 doing about and he was trying to raise money to 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.600 start a com commercial fishing business, so you know, he 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.600 was trying to get his life back together. But they 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.640 said he was shot in the head and the shoulder 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.400 and the hip and in the ankle. I believe, And yes, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.680 he was wheelchair bound and said he would never walk again. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.880 But he walked again with a cane, and he went 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.960 through enough physical therapy that he was able to overcome 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.960 all of those injuries. But what he it seems, was 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.040 not able to overcome was the traumatic brain injury that 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.880 he suffered when he was shot in the head. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.360 And they all, I say they all, but certainly the 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.240 authorities say he didn't have really much of a police 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.200 record of any kind of him. But they were aware 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.679 he had mental health issues. Severe mental health issues, is 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.160 what they said. The lawsuits that he was piling up. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.280 You mentioned the church he claimed a church was trying 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.000 to murder him by poisoning, and another lawsuit he claimed 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.600 the hospital tried to murder him after they found out 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:39.040 he had quote survived a hate crime by the LGBTQ 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:44.480 white supremacists. I mean, just what is going on with 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.319 this guy? But he was. It just kept coming in 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.720 lawsuit and lawsuit and lawsuits, so they had to cut 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.920 him off from having the privilege to do so. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.360 Look, and my question is they're cutting him off from 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.720 filing lawsuits. They're recognizing a very detailed pattern of mental health. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.160 He obviously has a traumatic brain injury that you can 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:06.080 clearly point to. How in the hell I didn't think 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:12.400 someone with that documented mental health issues would be allowed 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.880 to have a gun, let alone multiple firearms, and knowing 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.959 that he was a sniper, knowing that he was trained 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.920 at his weapons. I know people didn't believe he was 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.840 actually going to turn to violence, but if someone has 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:28.400 these delusions that someone's trying to kill him or people 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.920 are coming after him, that's paranoia. That wouldn't be a 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:37.160 big stretch to say maybe this person shouldn't have access 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.520 to a gun or multiple guns. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.760 I haven't seen anything on that yet where he got it, 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.120 if he legally acquired, And also haven't seen rope They 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.320 talking about mental health. Was he ever documented in such 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.640 a way that would have prevented him from buying a weapon. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.120 These things, in these questions need to be answered. The 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.120 victims are the ones yes today, and they're families who 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.960 matter MO And we don't know the victims' names yet 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.440 their identities, but we'll talk about them when we find 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.320 them out. But it is in this case, in particular 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.080 robes so important that we do I have to talk 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.640 about the shooter today, the alleged shooter today, and the 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.160 background of this person, because those families are gonna want 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.120 to know why, and if they don't get a good 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.320 enough answer from the alleged shooter, they're gonna go Okay, 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.040 then why did the VA not look at him? Why 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.040 didn't they They're gonna want to know an answer that 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.440 maybe he can't give them, but they're gonna want to 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.720 know that before that, well, who was it who was 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.680 taking care of this guy, keeping an eye on this guy, 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.200 making sure he got the help he needed it, Because 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.280 it seems so obvious this wasn't. Oh, he was such 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.000 a nice guy, kind of like it was documented. It 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.720 was for years, it sounds. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.960 Like, yes, and his injuries were well documented as well. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.480 I mean, this young man at the time suffered greatly 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:05.160 and now so many families are suffering because he was 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.000 literally twisting in the wind. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.720 Ah. Well, folks, he actually published a book. He self 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:17.240 published a book. The name of it Headshot, Betrayal of 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:21.240 a Nation. Stay here, you'll want to hear what this 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.680 book is about. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.760 Continuing now on this episode of Amy and TJ, we 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.160 are talking about the suspect Nigel Edge, forty years old, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:44.000 former marine, a highly decorated marine who is now charged 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.000 with three counts of murder and five counts of attempted 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.360 murder after he opened fire while folks were enjoying a 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:58.440 beautiful night, a beautiful Saturday night at a water beautiful 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.240 restaurant right on the water in North Carolina, enjoying their 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.760 night nine thirty pm from a boat. He had an 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.400 assault rifle, he had a scope. He shot his victims 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.199 in the head, And of course everyone wants to know why, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.119 how did this happen? It's always the question we have. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.680 There is never a good answer to explain away something 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.679 of this magnitude. But he was in court today. We 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.439 heard a little bit about what prosecutors are going to 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.520 be doing next, and it's likely they will seek the 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.600 death penalty against him. But we're also learning so much 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:38.439 about this former marine who had a bright career, was 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.400 a he had the highest honors of marine could get 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.479 after serving his country, and yet here we are today 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:50.560 with him charged with heinous crimes. And to make things 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.879 even more bizarre, pictures are surfacing and we can go 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.840 back and look even on social media. He ended up 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.359 in twenty twelve Kelly Pickler American idol is Kelly Pickler. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.520 You know where she's from, North Carolina. Big star around 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.200 the country, but certainly in that state. In North Carolina. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.600 He ended up escorting her to the CMA Awards. Correct 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.359 back in twenty twelve. CMTSMT sorry, CMT sorry. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.359 I get them coming Yeah, he ended up, as the 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.080 story went at the time, he had met her somewhere 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.439 and just invited her to a charity event. She couldn't 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.439 attend that because the schedule and followed up, and he 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.320 escorted her that night and was her date. And she 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.720 was married at the times. It wasn't like they were dating, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.080 if you will, but it was a nice gesture. She 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.040 thought enough of them. He impressed her enough. He had 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.200 his service dog with him on the red carpet, even 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.280 rusty that night. So those pictures are out there, and 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.320 that's the guy we're talking about, Folks, when you go 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.639 look up those pictures, that's the guy accused of gunning 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.639 down folks who were sitting outside enjoying drinks and listening 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:57.080 to music. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.399 Yeah, he looks like somebody who you would see and 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.000 say thank you for your service, sir, somebody who you 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.199 would show deep respect to, and certainly never expect this 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.520 kind of violence or for him to do these heinous 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.800 things that police say he did. And certainly it's just 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.960 such a an about face doesn't seem to be the 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.080 right phrase, but it is such a departure from what 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.639 you would expect. And so when you start to dig 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.000 in and see what happened to this man and where 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.520 he is now and the best way to do that. Yes, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.359 we can look at the lawsuits he's filed. We can 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.679 hear from his parents who have certainly we're screaming for 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.920 help from the VA to say, please help our son. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:42.159 He's not well, he's delusional, he's suffering from traumatic brain injury. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.480 But he actually self published a book. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.399 Yeah, I mean, I had to go look this up. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.000 It's still out there till on Amazon. But even the 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:57.080 name of it, Headshot Betrayal of a Nation, even that's heavy. 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.800 But take a listen to what he describes robes and 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.480 this is part of the description of the book on Amazon, 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.919 and I'm quoting taking four bullets, including one to the 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.120 head Sewn he was Sean at the time. Shawn's life 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.840 would never be the same. But it was the fact 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.440 that all of this was at the hand of friendly 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.320 fire that would provide the most crippling mental damage. Sean 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.160 deba voice was nearly killed by his own marines, and 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.760 for reasons that are boggling to the outside mind. Putting 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.879 the pieces together. Still today, Sewn has come to realize 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.240 that a dangerous web was woven between the US Marines, 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.320 a hunger for honor and jealousy that traced all the 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.879 way back to his family home. It sounds almost like 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:49.320 fiction is being written. 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.359 It does, and none of this specifically has been corroborated. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.640 I mean, clearly history. It was injured. But he went 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.960 on to say Seawan killed insurgents on that fateful day 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.560 when he was locked in a warehouse and left to 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.320 die by his own men. Returning home, the nightmare seemed 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.040 to become even more horrifying. Although he has worked tirelessly 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.000 to recover the use of his body and reclaim his 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.199 life from those who did everything in their power to 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.479 take it from him, he still grapples with a mysterious 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.760 story that the US military doesn't want you to know. 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.080 This is Sean's story and it's being told for the 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.520 first time with unflinching honesty. 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:36.720 Wow, I mean wow, just wow, Just what was going 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:41.040 on with this guy? And look it's it's it's it's 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.720 weird for your heart to hurt for the guy accused 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.840 of doing this. Right, it just is we supposed to 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.480 just see's a monster. You should go to jail for 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:52.960 the rest of his life. And who knows what was 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:56.040 really going on, but just it was a very quick 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.600 picture that was painted of yes, there was something going 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:04.120 on with him in your heart hurts for everybody certainly today. 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.840 Man, you know who I think of right now? I 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.360 think of our dear friend and God we love him, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:14.560 Bob Woodruff, who was injured and also had a traumatic 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.399 brain injury while he was covering a war zone, and 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.800 he has spent and dedicated his life, he and his 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.840 wife Lee to helping servicemen and women who found themselves 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.400 in the same ble. But they've had to step in 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.440 and they privately have funded so much help and care 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.000 for these men and women because our government doesn't provide enough, 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.960 and they are on their bullhn horn and sounding alarms 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.639 for people for decades now, trying to raise awareness about 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.760 the fact that we as a nation do not take 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.520 care of our men and women who are wounded, especially 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.240 those with traumatic head injuries when they come back home. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.000 And so I applaud Bob and Lee for all that 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.199