1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: What's up, every one? This is Mark Kenyon and welcome 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: to this week's installment of Wired to Hunt's RUT radio miniseries. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: And I'm here again with Spencer new Hearth, who's going 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: to be checking in momentarily with a series of hunters 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: across the country who are gonna be failing us in 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: on what kind of RUT related activity they've been seeing 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: over the past week and what tactics they're using right 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: now to hunt mature bucks. So that's the plan, right Spencer? Ah, Yeah, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and uh, it's great here in salth Dakota. The only 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: thing that would make it better is if it was November. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: I know they countdown to November is something we're all 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: excited about, but I don't know what's I'm kind of curious. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I want to reverse this on you really fast here, 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: because you call these hunters and you're asking them about 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the overall activity from one to ten where they're hunting 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: based on what you've heard so far. What do you 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: think the number is if you had to average it 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: out across everywhere everyone you've talked to you so far, 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: if you had to put one number on the RUT 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: related activities so or what is your number, you would say, 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: based on the calls I've had today, probably a five. Five. Yeah, 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: but it's like it's an anticipation five. If there is 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: such a thing, I like that. Everybody kind of says it, 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: um with with a glimmer of hope you can hear it. 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, they're all kind of waiting on 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: one of two things, either a cold front to roll 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: through in the next week or so or the calendar 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: to flip in November. So um, everybody shares the same 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: feelings that it's only gonna get better from here on out. Yeah, 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: for sure. Now, I gotta tell you though, my number, 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: my personal number, is way different than what you guys 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: are are seeing so far. I gotta I gotta say 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: right now, Spencer, my number is like a nine. No way, Yes, 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: my numbers and nine. I had the best hunt of 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the year last night, and I've seen a crazy amount 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: of activity. So do you want can I tell you 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? I want to hear about it. Yeah, okay, 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give you the super cliff notes version. 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: But long story short, last night I saw five mature bucks. 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: I saw my number one, Shooter holy Field, and the 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: other two mature bucks I've had in trail camera. I 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: then saw those same two bucks, a three and a 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: half year old and a four and a half year old. 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I saw them again this morning, and both times last 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: night and today they're chasing dose around. Also last night 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: I had a three and a half year old the 47 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: two and a half year old fighting. They're sparring out 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of a bean field. And then you know, 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, I got to full draw on holy Field 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: the number one buck I've been after here in Michigan. 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: He came in chasing a dough into my food plot. 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Well actually snort wheezed him into the food plot. Then 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: when he got into the food plot, he bumped a 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: dough and then ran through my shooting lane. And when 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I got to full draw, he was already a like 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: forty yards and it was just too dark. Um, but 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I had a crazy, crazy hunt. And then again this morning, 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're out in broad daylight, like an 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: hour and a half after daylight, run around in the field, 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: chasing does a four year old in Michigan That doesn't 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: happen very often. So I'm on like a serious adrelling 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: restaurant right now. And as soon as we get done 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: recording this, I'm heading out into the woods and trying 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to get another crack at them. So it's a nine 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: here in southern Michigan. Yeah. So you say in Michigan 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen very often. Why do you think it 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: is happening? Is there something different very local to you, 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: or what's going on? Well, I'd say two things. I think. 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Number one, I try to keep the hunting pressure as 70 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: low as possible on the specific piece of property. So 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: these deer feel really comfortable out moving in daylight more 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: than most areas, just because I'm so obsessive about that. 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: So that might, you know, account for some of the activity, 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: the daylight activity. But the reason why I really think 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: things got going is that we had a fifteen degree 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: temperature drop hip and we have very high barometric pressure 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: and it's rising up to like the highest I've seen 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: it all hunting season so far today. Um So according 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: to a lot of people like Mark Dreary and all 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: those guys, that's one of those key indicators that really 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: gets dear moving. Um So that's why I went out 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: last night because I was like, these conditions look great, 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and um I think the final piece of the puzzle 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: is that there must be a dough or two that 85 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: is like just about coming to estus, you know, pretty 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: early compared to most doughes. So either they're just about 87 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: coming or there actually is a dough that's already in 88 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: the heat early. Because these bucks, you know, they're ready 89 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: to go, at least from what I've seen. You know, 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: it's not abnormal to see little, you know, year and 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: a half old bucks bumping around does early, you know, 92 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: chasing around because they're ready to go, but the does 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: aren't ready. But I don't see four year old bucks 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan chasing does around this time of year, you know, 95 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: partly because there's not many four year old bucks around here. 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: But usually they're smart enough not to be chasing does 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: until you know it's actually meaningful to do. So, So 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: things are, things are ripping and roaring right now. Yeah, 99 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know why you're sitting here talking to me. 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: Then that's a good question. It's very good. Like I said, 101 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to be hitting the woods in a matter 102 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: of minutes, So I guess we should keep this short too, then, Spencer, 103 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: So I guess who do we have? Who do we 104 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: have on Slate today. Oh, we start off in Missouri 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: with Matt Jrewery of Juliel Doors, and then we talked 106 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to A. J. Gall of Legendary White Tales in Wisconsin. 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Then we have Eric Long in Ohio of Drumming Log 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Wildlife Management. Then we have John Armand in North Dakota 109 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: with Ultimate Outdoor Adventures TV. And finally we talked to 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Tim Bieble in Vermont with the four pointer dot Com. Nice. 111 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I like it. We've got a good swath of the 112 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: country covered there, and uh, I'm excited to hear. I'm 113 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: excited to hear what they have to offer. Is there 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: is there anything we need to cover before we're jumping 115 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: into these interviews. Um, you know, I think one thing 116 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: we need to stress is is how timely that these 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: interviews are. Um. You know, I got some feedback last 118 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: week after the podcast, people asking you know, hey, when 119 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: were these recordings done and when did you interview these 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. Um, but we gotta stress 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: how timely this is. You know, we're having this conversation 122 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, this podcast is going to go up on Wednesday, 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: and all these interviews I did were today and all 124 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: these people give me the reports based on sightings from 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of days. So this is as relevant 126 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: as it gets, I guess for for buck activity. Yeah, 127 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: that's a great point. And that's that's why I love 128 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: about this is that we're giving you such current intel. 129 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: We're trying to give you as current intel as we 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: possibly can. So yeah, these reports are as of today, 131 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: and if you're listening to this on Wednesday, they're less 132 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours old. So um, you can definitely 133 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: take some of us apply it to your hunts in 134 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: the coming days. And uh and I don't know, Spencer, 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: if if you think we're ready, I'm ready to get 136 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: right into it. Yeah, you you better get to the 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: tree stand, all right, man, wish me luck? All right, 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: thanks Mart, But quickly before we get to our first update. 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: As all Weird Hunt podcasts are, this episode is brought 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: to you by Sitka Gear. If you'd like to learn 141 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: more about Sitka Gears technical hunting apparel, you can visit 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Sitka gear dot com. And now onto the show and 143 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: joining us on the phone. First is general manager for 144 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: Drewelry Outdoors, Matt Drewlry. Now, Matt, I know you've been 145 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: hunting northern Missouri. But of course you get connections in 146 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Iowa and Illinois and other player cecil on a scale 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: of one to ten in your area, what would you 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: say the bucket activity was for this last week? You know, 149 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I think probably still in the three to four range. 150 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still pretty low, you know. That being said, 151 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: of course, you know Mark Drew killed the biggest deer 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: of his life in Iowa, um on Friday. But you know, 153 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: the conditions were just really ideal there. It was the 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: first south after a bunch of nors. It was high 155 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: pressure day deer in general. I think he said he 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: saw like fifteen or sixteen deer that morning, So it 157 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: was a it was a good deer movement day. It 158 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: really didn't necessarily have anything to do with you know, 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: rut conditions or whatever. It was just a good movement day. 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: And so he hit the conditions just right. Of course, 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: he he knew um the deer that he was after. 162 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: He knew that he was in his bedroom there. He 163 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: had put up a blind five days before that, so 164 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: he he he was after that one specific deer, and 165 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: he thought he'd have a pretty good chance that morning 166 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: with those conditions. But that being said, you know that 167 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: was you know, that's obviously a really highly managed piece 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: of land. I think I think that specific piece of 169 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: dirt was acres um. But he you know, he's surrounded 170 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: by a lot of um property there where they all managed. 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: So you know, my specific lease, which is about an 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: hour north of St. Louis where I hunt primarily. I mean, 173 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's still it's still got a 174 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: little bit to go. And and frankly, I think this 175 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: week with the warm temperatures is not really going to 176 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: do us any favors. I think, you know, everybody looks 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: forward to the last week of October. In the first 178 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in November, uh, you know where the 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: deer activity and the running activity really starts. But um, 180 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I have a feeling, you know, if if the temperatures 181 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: are in the eighties, it may be a lot of 182 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: movement at night. Your trail cameras might show you that, 183 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the stuff is happening at night. 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: And if there are any cool mornings, I think mornings 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: could start getting good here and you'll see, you know, 186 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the jury outdoors got eyes, will start 187 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: hunting mornings right around now. So Um, yeah, I think 188 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: it could get good, but the warm temperatures certainly are 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: not going to help her cause here. And so for 190 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: that haunt that Mark was on when he shot that 191 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: incredible buck, what was his strategy that morning? Was he 192 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: pretty aggressive? Was he hunting near their bed? Was he 193 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: hunting a field edge of what was going on there? Yeah, 194 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: he was really aggressive. Like I said, he he was 195 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: in this dear's bedroom and uh, he had just erected 196 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: this muddy bowl. It's a scent proof blind that he 197 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: had put up like five days before that, and it 198 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: was on the kind of an edge of a little 199 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: field and next to the timber and this, uh, this 200 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: buck was actually he said that there was a three 201 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: and a half year old that was I think he 202 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: was making a rub on a tree right next to him, 203 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and that noise, he felt like, alerted the buck he 204 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: was after to to kind of come out there and 205 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: and stay in his ground. And he said he was 206 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: watching this three and a half and also the demeanor 207 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: just instantly changed and he looked back, his ears went 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: back and he took off running. And Mark instantly said 209 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: to his camera guy said, there's a big deer on here. 210 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Somewhere and before he knew it, he looked up and 211 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: this this the buck he was after. Danger walked out right, uh, 212 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: fifteen steps from him, and he came on five steps 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: of the blind. He was headed towards where this other 214 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: buck was, uh, and Mark shot him at five steps. 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty unbelievable. But yes, he got very aggressive and 216 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: got in on his bedroom. But he had the right 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: conditions that morning. Yeah, that's incredible. So Mark was around 218 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: some you know, typical late October deer sign. There are 219 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: you seeing a lot of scrapes and rubs in your area? Yeah? Absolutely. 220 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: I switched all my cameras over about a week ago 221 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: to uh two scrapes, and it's definitely starting. Uh they're 222 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: starting to pop up everywhere on my lease. So it's 223 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: it's a good sign, you know. But all the pictures 224 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: primarily or still we're still happening in the middle of 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: the night, so um, you know. But it was warm, 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: so I I really feel like, you know, coming up here. 227 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I looked at the extended forecast, and you know, the 228 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: ten days not overly great. I think next Tuesday, like 229 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: next Monday, it's supposed to be eighty degrees Uh. In 230 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: my area, and then Tuesday drops the seventy two. I 231 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: think Wednesdays, the day that I'm kind of circling, it 232 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: drops down the sixty six. But if you think about it, 233 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's still it's still really warm for November 234 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: the two you're just trying to catch some cold weather 235 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: that the deer is still going to be doing what 236 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: they do. But you know, with that warm weather and 237 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: Monday it's eighty degrees, so I could certainly foresee a 238 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: lot of that movement happening in the middle of the night. 239 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: And of course your trail cameras are going to show 240 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: you that, especially if you have them on scrapes right now, 241 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna find out, you know, if they're moving in 242 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the day or if they're moving all 243 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, to three four am. That then you keep 244 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, what you're dealing with their um. That's not 245 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: to say you can't catch one on their feet, and 246 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, and the more warning when it's still cool out, 247 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: but it definitely doesn't help her cause. Yeah, And so 248 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: with that said, going forward, what would you expect the 249 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: buck activity be on a scale of one to ten 250 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: for like these next ten days or so, Well, you 251 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: know that last couple of days. Halloween is always a 252 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: date that everybody you know as circles, is a good 253 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: dear day. But just looking at that forecast, it's a 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: high eighty and a low of sixty here in in 255 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: in the St. Louis, you know area. I'm sure most 256 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: of the Midwest is gonna be dealing with that. So 257 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I would not, um, you know, the activity is going 258 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: to be happening, But like I said, I just feel 259 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: like it might be happening in the middle of the 260 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: night unfortunately. So you know, I'm not very excited about 261 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: the weather forecast. Unfortunately. I really think it could be 262 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: tough here in the next ten days. So I would 263 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: be shocked if the deer movement daylight is a five 264 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: six because of the temperatures that that's you know, and 265 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, who knows. But um, if after 266 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: this first ten days here, you know, if the first 267 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: two weeks in November get really cold, then look out, 268 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I'd say it could be really really good because that's 269 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: always a period that's good anyways. So I would say 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: that those uh, you know, if if we get some 271 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: cold weather, look out for the fourth through the you know, 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: through the Yeah, and like I told a couple of 273 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: guys on last week's show on I'll be hoping for 274 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: a cold front for you. So yeah, that's what everybody 275 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: really wishes far, you know, especially the guys that are 276 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: taking a week off of vacation or have already scheduled 277 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: that week off. You know, the one thing you can't 278 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: control is what what Mother Nature does with the weather. 279 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: And so I think everybody's got their fingers crossed that 280 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: hopefully a cold front comes in. Yeah. Absolutely, well, good luck, 281 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: Matt and uh we look forward to the footage of 282 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: of Mark's deer and we'll keep falling along with the 283 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: rest of Drewy Outdoor team. Yeah, please do follow us 284 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: over at our Facebook page of Dury Outdoors of course 285 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: a Drey Outdoors dot com, our journal and then uh Instagram, Twitter, YouTube. 286 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: We're constantly putting up new new videos, so be sure 287 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: to follow us and check it out. We'll do, thanks 288 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Matt and joining us on the phone. Next is legendary 289 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: White Tails content manager A J. Gol a J. Huntson Wisconsin. So, 290 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: A G what would you say, on a scale of 291 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: one to ten, the deer activity has been lately. Yeah, 292 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I would definitely say, this past week, it's starting to 293 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: ramp up. I would I guess right now, I'd probably 294 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: put it at about a stick. And so are you 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: basing that off of some hunts you've had lately, or 296 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: some scouting or trail Cama activity or what's giving you 297 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: that info with being it being a six? Yeah, I 298 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: would say, Um, I came to came to six because 299 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: of a recent hunt, I've had, trail Cama activity, and 300 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: what other bodies are having in this area. It definitely 301 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: seems like this last weekend quite a few mature box 302 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: at the ground stuff was starting to be a little 303 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: more daylight active. Um. Scrapes are scrapes are getting hit 304 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: hard right now. UM, and the cold front coming up, 305 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: so it should be this whole week should be pretty good. 306 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: And and I kind of limited it at the six 307 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: just because I got high hopes for the next next 308 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to come. So, so have you started 309 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: haunting aggressive yet or is that all going to change 310 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: for you here coming up at the end of October. Yeah, 311 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. This week. Um, kind of kind of 312 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: been pretty pretty laid back, not too aggressive so far. UM, 313 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: but especially with this this cold front, this week is 314 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: pretty pretty good weather all around. Um, it'll be ramping 315 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: up this week. I've got vacation the fifth through th 316 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: of November, so but I'll be out as much as 317 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I can these next two weeks for sure. And so 318 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: your buddies, you have been having success in that area, 319 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Um have There's been more of morning since or evening since. Um. 320 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Both actually, so I had to that that tag pretty 321 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: nice box this past weekend. Um. The one was morning 322 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: and there's two of them out and that was kind 323 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: of the western side of Wisconsin and Burnet County. Um. 324 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: And they had a lot of activity in the morning, 325 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: he said, all the way through about ten am is 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: about when they got down. But they had pretty content activity, 327 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff running around. UM kind of nose 328 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: and does you know, not nothing too hard and crazy yet. 329 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: And then the afternoon that was kind of he wasn't. 330 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing much of any type of running activity 331 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: other than just kind of being curious and walking during 332 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: daylight and feeding along a cut soybean field. So, UM, 333 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: this morning on the way to work, saw some saw 334 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: some running across the field wide open. So definitely starting 335 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: to turn up here a little bit. And so do 336 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: you think their food sources have changed? You said that 337 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: one um was a soybean field. Do you think they're 338 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: still you know, hitting the hardwoods itself or the on 339 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,479 Speaker 1: agriculture right now? Yeah, my area we were pretty dominated 340 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: by um by farmland and the woods we do have, 341 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: they're not usually that heavy and oaks. There's a lot 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: of maples down here, so we don't have to worry 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: about huge acorn crops. Um. But I would say right 344 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: now they're starting to hit the corn fields. Soybeans are 345 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: mostly coming off, so if they're not getting plowed under 346 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: right away, they're definitely browsing in those because all the 347 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: beans are knocked onto the ground. Um. But yeah, crops 348 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: are changing this week, they're going to continue for the 349 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: next week and a half. I would say that corn 350 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: is gonna start to come off, so those cut corn 351 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: fields are gonna be gonna be hot for a while. 352 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: So you would say, if you were hunting a field 353 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: edge right now, that would maybe give you your best 354 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: shot is a cut corn field over anything else. Yeah. 355 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: For me, I would, um, you know, probably about a 356 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: week or so, that's kind of when I start hitting 357 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: the pinch points and funnels. More travel corridors type stuff. 358 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: But I think right now they're just kind of wanting 359 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: to to feel and play around with those doughs, and 360 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: those doughs are gonna be likely, you know, outfeeding in 361 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: those recently cut crop fields or or even food pots 362 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: if you got them. So, um, those those bucks are 363 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: getting nosy right now, especially the young ones. They're the 364 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: ones that are are really moving around. Um So, but yeah, 365 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: definitely target the the field edges of recently cut crops. 366 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: So what about going forward for this next week or so, 367 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activities are gonna be 368 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten children By what 369 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the weather is coming up, I would say it's it's 370 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: going to ramp up too. I think it's gonna be 371 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: really really good first or this end of the end 372 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: of October is going to be better than it has 373 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: been probably in the last couple of years, just because 374 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: the weather's um. It looks like for the rest of 375 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: this week it's at least in the mid forties for 376 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: US as a high and then up to the fifties, 377 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: but anything under seems like it's got the deer. Deer 378 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: moving um and you know, test asterones continuing to rise, 379 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: so they should get better and better a lot more 380 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: daylight cruising, I think. Alright, Agi, well, I look forward 381 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: to talking to you after your rutcation there. Good luck 382 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: with that. All right, sounds good. Thanks a lot, And 383 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: now joining us on the phone is Eric Long with 384 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Drumming Wildlife Management. Now, Eric in Ohio, what would you say? 385 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: The bucket activity has been on scale of one to ten, 386 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: probably about a four or five right now. It's pretty low. 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: And so what are you basing that off of some 388 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: encounters or trail cam activity or what are you seeing? Well, 389 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: the trail cam activity, let's address that first. Um, it's 390 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: been kind of just just kind of a minimal type thing. 391 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing any daylight necessarily photos that wouldn't and 392 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: indicate you know, running activity. Um. And also you're talking 393 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: to my clients, um that I managed for pieces of property. 394 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: I talked to them just the other day, try to 395 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: get a feel for, you know, what's going on at 396 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: their properties and they're basically seeing the same thing. Um. 397 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: And also too, is any take this for what it's worth. 398 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: I got about a two our drive each day and 399 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, through rural rural country, and I'm not really 400 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: seeing any you know, chasing or anything like that, and 401 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, talking to UM farmers and stuff like that, 402 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: you know they're not really seeing the activity UM as well. 403 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: So UM So basically, like I said, it was, it's 404 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: it's kinda kind of stagnant right now. But UM, I 405 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: say that with this being said, I hunted last night 406 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: and UM, I had, you know, some yearling box come 407 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: into the food source the food plot that I was hunting, 408 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: and they weren't bothering the dose, but they you know, 409 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: they were checking them lip curling. And then my son 410 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: who was hunting, actually I was just with them. We 411 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: had a four year old come in. He wouldn't commit 412 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: to the food plot, but he was just walking around, 413 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: just lip curling, but keeping his distance away from everybody. 414 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: So I'd say it's almost on the verge of breaking out. 415 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: So we're starting to get some activity, but it's still 416 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: kind of just low key right now. And so what 417 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: do you think we need, um for it to really 418 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: break out? Do you think we need a good cold 419 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: front or um, something to change with harvest or just 420 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: day lengthwise. We just need to have some patience. Yeah, 421 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, everybody has their opinion on it. Um. 422 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: My thing is just time, um not to go draw 423 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: in a drawing out thing here, but every three to 424 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: four years depending on my time, but it's roughly every 425 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: three years, UM, I do a fetus study. And what 426 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: that is is I try to kill as many dose 427 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: as I can in January because in Ohio we have 428 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: a pretty liberal hunting season where we can hunt all 429 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: the way up into into February. So that's positive. Um, 430 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: so where we save a bunch of tags. Has some 431 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: people come into one of our main farms, and we 432 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: try to kill as many dose as we can legally 433 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: and collect those fetuses. Now why do we do that 434 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: because we can measure those fetuses and determine and doing 435 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: a certain measurement, doing some adding and subtracking, we can 436 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: then decide see actually when those does are being bred. 437 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: And lately the last one we did, um, it was 438 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: from November nine through to twelve. So no matter how 439 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: much activity is prior or, you know, and all that 440 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: stuff is still somewhat consistent if you have a good 441 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: quality dear hurt, you know, it's not all over the map. 442 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: So you know, the rutting activity is one thing, but 443 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: actually the rut itself you know, it's stays consistent from 444 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: the time period that everybody knows, you know, in the Midwest, 445 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: at least in Ohio. Right, So I was gonna ask you, 446 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: how relevant do you think, um, that study that you're 447 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: doing is for you know, neighboring states or or do 448 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: you think that's a very local thing. Oh, it's very 449 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: local obviously. It depends on if you're managing your piece 450 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: of property. Um, you know, the deer densities and stuff 451 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: like that. So it is a very local type thing, 452 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: it is, sure. And so going forward for the next 453 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: ten days or so, what do you think the bucket 454 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 455 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: to ten? Oh, without a doubt. I mean I would say, 456 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: by um, the middle of next week and next week 457 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: if I have my crystal ball, you know here at 458 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: the end of the month in November, I would say, 459 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, three stand time is going to be very crucial. 460 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: You know that pre rud activity is you know, to me, 461 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: I love hunting pre right. I don't like hunting the 462 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: right itself, you know, Um, you know our places are 463 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of just dead, you know, the pre rud activity, 464 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: I just absolutely love it. And still on a scale 465 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: of one to ten. What what do you think it's 466 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: gonna be? Uh scale of one to ten? You know 467 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: here by the end of the month, I would have 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: to say, you know, you know, be up towards seven seven, 469 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: uh eight? Eight? Is you know by the end of 470 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: the months here, I think it'll happen just that quick. Yeah, well, 471 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: we're excited as each calendar day draws closer in November. 472 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: So thanks for your talking, thanks for your time, and 473 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: have a problem. I hope the rest of your fall 474 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: goes great. Yeah, and likewise to you, sir. Alright, and 475 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: joining me on the phone. Next is John Armand of 476 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Ultimate Outdoor Adventure TV. John in North Dakota. What would 477 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been these last ten 478 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: days on a scale of one to ten, um, I 479 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: would have to say from when we've been on the 480 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: field is probably around US three. It's not been, um, 481 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: super fast and furious. And so what are you basing 482 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: that off of some trail came activity or scouting or 483 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: actually hunting or what are you seeing? Well, we've a 484 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: little both. I went out and checked the cameras the 485 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: other day and the activity saw a lot of those 486 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: on the food plots. Um, you know, the bucks are 487 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: starting the cruise. I'm seeing different bucks showing up in 488 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: different areas, but the ones that I had on camera earlier, 489 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: for the bigger ones, I'm not seeing right now. And 490 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple of my friends. Some outfitters 491 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: at UM run quite a bit of land and you know, 492 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: they've seen some activity. They've actually had a couple of 493 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: really nice bucks, probably one sixty and one fifty that 494 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: were locked together, but the guy actually shot. So you know, 495 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: things are starting to pick up and they're starting to 496 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: to hammer on each other and they're starting to cruise around. 497 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: But UM, from US hunting last week, we saw very 498 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: little activity and so the bucks that they are you 499 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: are getting on camera, these newer deer UM is a 500 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: mostly nocturnal movement. No, the ones that UM we've seen 501 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: on camera on the food source have actually been UM early, 502 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, around seven o'clock in the evening. UM seen 503 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot of activity in the morning. UM, but they're there, 504 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, the bucks I haven't seen the been in 505 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: a one thirty class range nice dear UM, but just 506 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen the big boys UM yet. But they could 507 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: be in different areas too, and so like where do 508 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: you think those bucks went that you've been you know, 509 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: patterning all of October. Do you think they're on the 510 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: neighbor is now or do you think they're still They're 511 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: just not really moving yet. I think there's they're still there. 512 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: You know, we um run two thousand acres mountain in 513 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: south central North Dakota, and we have a lot of 514 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: drawers and coolies, and what I've seen is that our 515 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: story being filled and things. When in September August September 516 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: when there's a lot of green um for them, they 517 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: were hammering them early and right now they're kind of 518 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: switching gears and they're going over to some of the corn. 519 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of these bucks are just 520 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: starting to spread out. You know, they're there in their 521 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: bachelor groups and now they're kind of moving around and 522 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be there. They're just gonna be different parts 523 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: of our place. And that's what usually happens, is that 524 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: they just kind of spread out and go to the 525 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: different areas and start checking those and things like that. Right, 526 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: so we we shouldn't hit the panic button yet then 527 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: for you, um, so you would say this is typical, then, uh, 528 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: this sort of behavior that you're seeing you know it 529 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: is you know, it's every year we struggle. You know 530 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: they say the October law and UM, you know, this 531 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: weekend we're hoping it's going to pick up. You know, 532 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: it's um, you know, Halloween weekend and UM thinking that 533 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: cracking the horns together and doing a little grunt call. 534 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: And I think these bucks are starting to get into 535 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: it and are usually seems like it. And you know, 536 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: around the Halloween weekend the pre rep and then start 537 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: we open up our rifle season UM the following week, 538 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: and we started to see some really nice activity then 539 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: and it continues through the middle of November to the 540 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: end of November. And so what have you been seeing 541 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: for deer sign wise? Do you think scrapes are really 542 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: hot right now? Are we starting to move off of 543 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: that a little bit? Well, you know, we we're not 544 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: big in the scrape hunting, UM, but you know the 545 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: areas that I do hunt, there's huge scrape plans that 546 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: go through. UM. I have personally never killed a deer 547 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: on a scrape. UM. Just nice to see. I think 548 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: that the ones that we're seeing a lot of them 549 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: are the ones that they keep open year round because 550 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: it's a kind of their signpost type deal. But you know, 551 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: the rubs are everywhere and we're starting to see, um, 552 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, more scrapes in different areas, um where these 553 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: bucks are cruising. And so going forward, what what do 554 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: you think the buck activity is going to be on 555 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in this next week 556 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: or so? You know, I would like to say it's 557 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: going to get up to an eight or nine, but 558 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: I just know how that what goes. You know, it's 559 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: funny that you know, we're a weekend where so we 560 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: get a hunt the weekends basically, and you know some days, 561 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: you know the rut is on fire. You go out 562 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: one day and you'll see bucks chasing all over dog 563 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: and does and the next day you see nothing. And 564 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: it's always been baffling to me. And I don't know 565 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: if they're in lockdown. Um, it's just one of those deals. 566 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Time creates opportunity and if a guy I can get 567 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: out there as much as possible, I think you're going 568 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: to find some kind of rucket what activity going on, 569 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: It just depends on what day it is. Yeah, right on, Well, 570 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I hope that the rut lines up with your weekends 571 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: of a we'll here and uh, we'll connect again soon 572 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: and hear how you're doing all right, buddy, Well, I 573 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And finally joining us on the phone is 574 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Tim Bieble of the four pointer dot com, which is 575 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: dedicated to New England whitetail hunting. Now t him, I 576 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: know you've been hunting Vermont in New Hampshire lately. What 577 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been there? On 578 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would have to 579 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: give it a probably around a five to a six. 580 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: Just this past weekend, I think the weather really took 581 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: a turn for the better in terms of deer hunting. 582 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: It's been real, real warm this fall, and there's been 583 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of food, a lot of food in the 584 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: woods this year. So the dear activity has been the 585 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: movement at least has been next to nothing from what 586 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: I've experienced, and just this past weekend that was out 587 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: scouting and heard from others. But scrapes are starting to 588 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: pop up and and rub so it's it's getting to 589 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: that point where it's pretty exciting out there. So looking 590 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: forward to getting out there tonight. Actually gonna plan it 591 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: on no first great tonight in an area where I've 592 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: had some success, calling in the past, so hopefully that'll 593 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: work out again tonight. But I'll give it a five 594 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: or six. And so how aggressive are you typically this 595 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: time of year? UM? You know, are you hunting some 596 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: of your better stands yet or are you showing some 597 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: patience with those? UM. My strategy, to be honest is 598 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: is I hunt when I can so UM. You know, 599 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: I can't get out every day, and the days that 600 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to hunt, I take advantage of it. 601 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: UM this type of this time of year, I would 602 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: say I probably I'm a little bit more aggressive at 603 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: least with calling. UM. I still try to slip in 604 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: there where I think the buck activity is going to 605 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: be UM. But calling I definitely ramped that up. Most 606 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: of the calling around here was blind calling. You can't 607 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: see one hundred yards in the woods, so UM, I 608 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: definitely utilize those quite a bit, more grunts and more UM. 609 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: These can call a lot little dough bleats this type 610 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: of year, and have had success with yer responding to those. 611 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: So hoping that I can catch that buck just out cruising, 612 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, checking his scrapes that he's recently made, and 613 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: maybe pick up on one of my calls and and 614 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: come on over for a peaksie, what's over there? So? 615 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's my strategy, to just try to 616 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: get in there close to their scrapes and then try 617 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: to call to them. And so, are you more of 618 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: a morning sit right now? Or you do a lot 619 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: more evenings this time of year, more evenings at this point, Um, 620 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: getting into that time of year when I can I 621 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: can get out in more mornings. But up to this point, um, 622 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: it's been all evening sits for me. And I mean 623 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: all honestly, check my bag out you'll see I haven't 624 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: had much success as it is so far this year. 625 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: But deer movement has been pretty slow for me this year. 626 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Just like I said a little bit ago, it has 627 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: done really warm, above average, and just a ton of 628 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: feed in the woods in this area, just up and 629 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: down the Connecticut River valley in Vermonton, Hampshire, just acorns everywhere, 630 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: beech nuts everywhere, and coupled with warm weather just doesn't 631 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: give the deer much reason to move until that lack 632 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: of deer movement that you're seeing, would you say that 633 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: is all white tail across the board right now or 634 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: just mostly the bucks that you're noticing? A lack of 635 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: movement with I would say that's that's pretty much all 636 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: white tail moving across the board in my experience, just 637 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: just been next to nothing, really sure. And and so 638 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: how can you use that abundance of food information right 639 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: now this time of year? Does that help a hunter 640 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: or not? Really? Well, it's frustrating for sure. But I 641 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: think one of the lessons I'm learning or trying to 642 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: trying to act on that I've learned in the past 643 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: is to give up a few nights of hunting if 644 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: it's just not not productive time in the woods and 645 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: and spending those those times when I would otherwise be 646 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: sitting in a stand to scout and see where I 647 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: can find that fresh feeding activity. Um. I mean, you know, 648 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: if you can find those oaks where the deer happened 649 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: to be, uh, sit there for a couple of nights 650 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: in a row, and see what happens. If it's dead there, 651 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, move on to the next spot. But that's 652 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: it's pretty spotty right now. And that's the strategy I'm 653 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: trying to employ, um and it it does work, but 654 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: you gotta find where they're at as they're just not 655 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: moving much sharing going forward for these next ten days 656 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: or so, what would you say the buck activity is 657 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: going to be then on a scale of one to ten, Well, 658 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: it's only going to get better. And the you know, 659 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the the weather forecast looks promising. We've got some chilly 660 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: weather sticking with us now down into the twenties at night, 661 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: and even today it's barely reached forty degrees. And so 662 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: that coupled with this type of this time of year, uh, 663 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, the bucks really just start cruising. It's encouraging 664 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: to see that scrape activity out there in fresh roums. 665 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: And so it's only a matter of time, which is 666 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: I think one of the most important ingredients to a 667 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: hunt is just time. You just gotta just gotta put 668 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: in the time. And eventually, you know, if you play 669 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: your cards right and put the time in, something's gonna happen. 670 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: And so it just all comes down to take an 671 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: advantage of those opportunities that are absolutely well. I'll be 672 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: following along at the four pointer dot com and hope 673 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: to see you with some antler in your hands. Yeah 674 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: me too, All right, thanks A lot spends to appreciate it. 675 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: And that concludes this episode of rout Radio. Make sure 676 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: to follow wired Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and 677 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Spencer new Hearth. 678 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: I look forward to the next time I talk to 679 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: you guys, because that will mean it's finally November. Thanks 680 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: for listening.