1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the NFL Legist Podcast. I'm in this. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Weis our guess today as NFL legend and former tight 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: end for the Pitchburgh Steelers, Chris kola Jetski. Chris will 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: be talking about his journey from the gridiron into the 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: beauty industry. That's right, the beauty industry. Let's listen in. Chris, 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL podcast. Man. It is an honor 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: to have you as a legend and I can't wait 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: to delve into what you're doing. Now welcome. First question 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I have for you, Chris, how's the weather in California? 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: It's sunny, it's seventy degrees, it's you know, southern California, 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: and and he has thank you so much. I'm the 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: one honored to be here today. As you know, I 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: had a very short career in the NFL um but 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: it was a childhood dream. And in fact, the childhood 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: dream was the paper, the Rams, not the Steeler. It's own, 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: you know. Kudos to you and your amazing career and 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: hall of fame's that is and what an accomplishment. And 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: thanks again for for having me my pleasure. Here's here's 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: the question. How do you end up. You born in Augsburg, 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Germany and you grew up in Cali. How did that happen? Well, 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: my dad was in the service, so UM, he was 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: stationed over there in Germany. Uh. He went to University 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: of Dayton, traveled over there with the army. UH he 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: was a captain there and then got transferred back actually 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: to Arizona. UM and did some r OTC training at 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona after doing his stint in Germany, 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and then he moved to southern California or for Procter 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: and Gamble, and UH, I started my I started kindergarten 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: there was basically there through high school. So when did 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: you fall in love with football? That's a that's a 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: great question. Wow. So a big part of my journey 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and what I love to share with people are those 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: moments of intention and then the moment of transformation. And 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: for me, the intention was I was watching football every 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Sunday with my dad, watching Merlin Olson and Deacon Jones 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and all those guys on the fears and force and 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: play and just absolutely became a huge RAM fan. And 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I remember in the second grade watch with my dad 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: and I looked at him and said I'm gonna play 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: pro football one day. Of course, you're out there, you know, 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: in the school, you are doing your thing, playing tag 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: football and all the sports and doing all that. But 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: that's that's really when I fell in love with the 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: game was with him. I set my intention, and the 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: crazy moment of transformation for me was in the third grade. 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: You don't really go out for pop water. You show 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: up and they give you the gear and you're on 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: the team, right, so you know they're fitting out and 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: they're putting the helmet on and the pads on. I 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: put all that stuff on and I had that kind 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: of magical thinking where you still believe in Santa. Sorry, guys, 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, And I thought, I put this 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: gear and I felt transformed. I felt like Superman. I 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: literally thought I had superpowers and couldn't get hurt. Well, 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: the first practice that turned out to, you know, not 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: be true, but that moment of transformation occurred at that 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: moment where I felt different because of something that I 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: had done, and that stuck with me the rest of 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: my life and lead me to be curious and want 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: to do these different things and know that if I 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: set an intention that I could go out and do it. 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I want to go back to that you use the 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: word transformation and you give him a description of what 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: it means. Give me an even simplest phone, because it 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of us have going through transformation 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: but may have may have not had a word to 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: describe it as you have. Well. Yeah, I mean, I 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: think I think anybody that's played pro football has absolutely 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: mastered intention and transformation and visualization. Right. There's so much 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: that goes into what it takes the commitment and the 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: drive and the sacrifice to get there. Is that you're 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: supremely focused and you have a vision and that's in 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: your mind and you say, I'm gonna do this no 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: matter what. I'm not gonna quit. I'm gonna keep getting up. 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's one of the unifying things 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: that all you know, ballers have is we we have 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that you know, accomplishment and realizing there was a lot blood, 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: sweat and tears to get there. M hmm. I hear 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot and I've read articles about you're talking about 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: your mom and the impactually had in your life. Talk 81 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: about how your mom strengthened devotion to family not only 82 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: helped actualize her dreams, but also gave birth to similar 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: goals in you Yeah, thank you, mus um. Yeah, Mom's 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: special place right for all of us. Um. I think 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I was fortunate in that my parents are not fortunate 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: that they got divorced, but when they did get divorced, 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: that they remained as a strong family unit. We still 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: celebrated Thanksgiving and Christmas together. There were a couple of 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: years that the family was a part where my dad 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: had moved back to Cincinnati for two years to do 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: training with Proker and Gamble. Uh, and there were you know, 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: so we split the time between Dad and mom. And 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: at the time that I was living with my mom, 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: one of the things that struck me was, you know, 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: working two jobs, two kids in an apartment, doing whatever 96 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: it took for her family, and the intention that she set, 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to work two jobs anymore. 98 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to work like this. I 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: want to do something different. And then out of that 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: intention she transformed increased your education, and ended up going 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: into really a male dominated field. She became a woman 102 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: real estate developer of commercial real estate, which back in 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the seventies there were no women real estate developers. Commercial 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: real estate. She was literally the first one. So she 105 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: built an owned shopping centers with partners, but she was 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: one of the founding partners and ten years later she retired. 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: So what I witnessed in her was this, uh intention, 108 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore, and openness to change. 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something about it, and then transformed and 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: did it and then put her head down and got 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: the work that it made it happen. And I think, 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: you know the parallel and this this goes back to, 113 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, my learnings in you and I were talking 114 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: about this a little bit about all the things you 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know until you kind of know them, and how 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: you kind of look back. And it took me about 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: ten years of being in business to realize what a 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: driver my mom was for me getting into cosmetics, and 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: that there's a we're gonna be all over the place 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: because it went from you know, pro football to investment banking, 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: real estate development to investment banking, corporate financed the cosmetics, 122 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: And people ask me the question, which is gonna come 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: up so here it is, why are you in cosmetics? 124 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: How did that happen? So go ahead, let me let 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: me breathe. Sorry, so for legends that have gotten a divorce, 126 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: for legends that may have may not be what their 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: children's mother tell them as a child. You just mentioned it. 128 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: Why it's so important because you said there's still civility, 129 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: there was still a connection with your dad and mom 130 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: even though divorce. What does the legend needs to know 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: as relates to staying connected to the mother for the 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: intentional as well as ther insformation of a child during 133 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: informative years. Yeah, I mean it's such a profound impact, 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, personally for me, even though they got along, 135 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: I harbored a tremendous amount of anger internally that I 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: was able to get off burn off on the football field, right, 137 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: because back in the seventies that was really a stigma 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: and we weren't the normal family. We were the divorce family. 139 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: And now that the families divorce. Not making light of that, 140 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: but to your point, I think that whatever ego or 141 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: pride or reasons that you have to be angry at 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the spouse need to go away for the benefit of 143 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the child. That's all that matters. And the release of 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: ego is not having to react no matter what happens 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: over on the other side of the fence. You can 146 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: just be passive and listen, hold your ground. But but 147 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: the reacting, and you know the negative consequences that go 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: between making that child choose between a mom and dad 149 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: and having to see that emotional fallout. I think it's devastating. 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a therapist, but you know I witnessed enough 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: as you have in your life to know what it's 152 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: like when things are calm at home and when they're not. Um, 153 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: So it just it provides a much better environment. Now 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned a word that it's big. Professionally, you said, 155 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: released the eagle. Give it a little more, tell me 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: released the eagle. Come over, Chris, oh man, you're digging um. 157 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: You know when you when you when you've been walking 158 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the planet for sixty years and gone around a couple 159 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: of the son a couple of times, you finally start 160 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: figuring these things out. And this is you know, one 161 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: of my big things is just being curious. And I 162 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: was sharing with you, how like I kind of look 163 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: back when I'm twenty, when I'm thirty, when i'm forty, 164 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: when i'm fifty, and I kind of look back at 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: a decade go. How could you be so stupid? How 166 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: could you think those things, and not in a derogatory 167 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: way about myself, but just about the fact that that's 168 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: where the learnings come from. We all make mistakes, we're 169 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: all human, but it's that curiosity I need to look 170 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: back and go, wow, I could have done that differently. 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: And the more that I you know, I tell you 172 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: about my crazy routine. I do whim hoff breathing, I 173 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: do uh depotroper meditations, I do uh yoga, I do 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: all these different things. And when I as I do 175 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: those things for myself, I realized that as I released 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: my ego and become more grounded, centered and happy because 177 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't have to be right, I can just let 178 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: it be what it is. That's good man. Thank you 179 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: for that, Chris. There's a question, what's your mom think 180 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: about your passion for football? Well, she she was very 181 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: very supportive. Um I've since lost her um to lung 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: cancer about ten years ago, but yeah, she was a 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: big supporter, big fan. Thank you. I can tell the 184 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: way you light up when I even talked about Mile 185 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you being willing and we know that 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: her legacy lives only you, Chris, that's for sure. How 187 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: about this on NFL NFL Legends Podcast one things we do. 188 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: We talk about transition a great deal. As you well know, 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: every player transitions from the game while the only their 190 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: own terms are prematurely Chris, unfortunately you didn't decide your 191 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: last day. It was due to injury that your last 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: day was decided. Take us through your injury. How you 193 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: copeo annoyed? The game you fell in love with was over? 194 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? Chris? That's a that's 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: a big one, um, And obviously I've had a lot 196 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: of time to think about that over the years and 197 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: reflect on it. Um. I think all those things kind 198 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: of happened for a reason, and I was fortunate enough 199 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: at the time pretty quickly to realize that it was 200 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: such a blessing that I was able to get into 201 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the NFL and not have that injury. Like I saw 202 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: that injury, career ending injuries happening in high school in college, 203 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: and so I saw guys that were better than me 204 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: never get to step on the field, never get to 205 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: be a second pick, never get to be a starter 206 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: because they got that career ending injury early. So there 207 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: was a part of me that was, you know, very 208 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: satisfied about the fact that I had achieved that level 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: of success. So that was one of the goals, one 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: of the check marks that went off. But I also 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: I knew that everybody gets injured, and I knew the stats. 212 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a numbers guys. So I had to 213 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: get that education, and uh, I was fortunate. I got 214 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: a degree in finance, and so, UM, I tried for 215 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: a year to come back. Um, and you asked me 216 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: to kind of take you through that play or that injury. 217 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: We were playing against the forty niners and they were undefeated. Uh, 218 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: this is the year that they're only lost in the 219 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: entire season was to us, and we had like, ah, 220 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: it was a great game. Um we got like a 221 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: third and thirty. There's about two or three minutes left 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: in the game, and UM, I got you know, two 223 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: of the greatest receivers ever played the game, Stalworth and Lips, 224 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: you know as the receiving corps. And I actually called 225 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: the play. I told Chuck on the sideline and said, Hey, 226 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna double up these guys. Put me out on 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the right, put them on the left, and let's throw 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: the gull. I got this, and he's like, Okay, let's 229 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: run it. So they had a cornerback linebacker trailing me 230 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: and I was pretty quick back then four six forty 231 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: and I got open, got a couple of steps um, 232 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: and had the ball hit me here. I walked into 233 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: the end zone, touchdown, no problem. But it was Malone 234 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: was getting a lot of pressure and it was a 235 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: quacker and it came in at my ankles. I had 236 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to turn around the back pedal and literally caught the 237 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: ball off the bottom of my shoe with my back 238 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: to the goal line, turned to the end zone and 239 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Dwight Hicks's helmet was at that direct trajector to go 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: right through my kneecap, and my foot ended up hitting 241 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: me in the face. So shatter knee kept two severed legments, 242 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: and I kind of knew that that was the end. 243 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: It was so devastating. Um but uh, you know, you 244 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: know how football players are like no, no, no no, we're gonna, 245 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna. I was like, hey, take it up, I'm 246 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: going back in and I couldn't even standing on it. Um. 247 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: So I spent a year trying to rehab, but that 248 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: the kneecap being so shattered didn't leave any room for rehab. 249 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: So it just kept getting inflamed like the size of 250 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a grapefruit after every workout, after a year, and the 251 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: doctor is just we can't do It's just not gonna happen. 252 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for sharing this story. So you 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: have a degree of finance, so I can understand to 254 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: get involved in investment banking. How do you transition from 255 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: finance investments to the beauty industry cosmetics, football make up, 256 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Come on, man, helpless. It's it's not a It's not 257 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: a straight line, that's for sure. So actually my mom 258 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: was kind of the inspiration for After I got out 259 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: of football, I went into real estate development. I missed 260 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: spoke earlier, So my first ten years were building uh 261 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: single family homes out in Malibu, UH spec homes, and 262 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: had an incredible career for ten years, but fell into 263 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: the collapse the Great slaps real estate in southern California, 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: and it built up this great portfolio properties I subsequently lost. 265 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: So you talk about a humbling experience and letting go 266 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: of ego. Have everything you do in your life for 267 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the first thirty years, work, have all your dreams come true, 268 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: segue out of football, build a real estate empire, and 269 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: then and and at thirty years old be worth tens 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars and at thirty one be bankrupt. 271 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: That was basically the path that I had come through. 272 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: And through that bankruptcy and the collapse of the market, 273 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: that pushed me into using my investment banking or my 274 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: finance credentials to help banks sell aria real estate owned 275 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: and properties that were underwater for them. So that led 276 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: into a ten year career of investment banking and corporate 277 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: finance and corporate restructures and raise it a bunch of 278 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: money and helping other people kind of build and finance 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: their dreams. And that was the catalyst of going into 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: wanting to build a brand end So I knew that 281 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to create a company and build a brand 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: and build equity because the investment banking world is very transactional, 283 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: so I wanted to create a brand name and equity. 284 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: And I'd heard a great guy speak, one of the 285 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: CEO of north Face, and he said, if you build 286 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: a great brand, it will last forever and you'll create 287 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: shareholder value. And I'm like, you know, I wouldn't work 288 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: here for ten years. And I got some money in 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: the bank from investment banking, but I haven't built a 290 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: brand and I haven't built equity that's gonna last forever. 291 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: So I kind of decided that I wanted to uh 292 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: to go after that. And so this is that kind 293 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: of what you think you know and then what you 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: later find out. I thought the reasons I went into 295 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: skincare because it started off as anti aging skincare for 296 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: baby boomers, which I was now becoming one was that 297 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: it was a recession proof. There are great margins and 298 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: there were great ingredients that really worked, and so I 299 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: launched the company on anti aging cosmetics. And then five 300 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: years later I saw there was this last serum that 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: would grow a woman's eyelashes and they would pay a 302 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars for two of this eye Last juice, 303 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, if they will pay that much 304 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: money for the promise that thirty days later it's gonna happen, 305 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: not gonna happen today. You gotta wait a month and 306 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna work. I realized I needed to get into 307 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: that part of the business, and so I segued into 308 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: creating a makeup and anti aging skincare and we called 309 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: it the Cella Brow and eye collection. And that's that's 310 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: kind of how I moved from football into cosmetics in 311 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: two minutes. So here's the question, Chris. Two devastations in 312 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: your life, injured, career, over market, collapse in the make room. 313 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: How did you get back up? Why did you get 314 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: back up? And what do you say to legends who've 315 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: had challenges or anyone that's listening, because not so much 316 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: we seem to be an environment where people think failure 317 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: is bay It Wow, such a profound question, and he 318 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: has thank you. You know, first of all, every legend 319 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: has and has demonstrated that capability of getting back up 320 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: on every play of every practice of every game. So 321 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: it's already there, born in them innately um and it's 322 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: it's getting rid of the ego. Right. If if I 323 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: am football and I get injured and can't play football, 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: then I'm not good anymore. No, football is a passion 325 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: something that I love. But I'm still Chris. So I 326 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: can still do real estate, I can still do corporate finance, 327 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: I can still do cosmetics. It doesn't matter what happened. 328 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to associate my worth with my career. 329 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: So when you kind of practice kind of crazy, but 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: if you practice self love and acceptance of yourself and others, 331 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: then you can look at those experiences as nothing more 332 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: than experiences and lessons to be learned. And if you're 333 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: open to being you know, receptive to that, then they 334 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: teach you so much, so much more then when you're successful. 335 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: When you're successful because I'm so smart now you're lucky 336 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time, and a 337 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: bunch of other good things happen as a preparation all 338 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. But when you failed and then have to 339 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: get back up and be successful, is because you've learned something. 340 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: So I guess it's be open to the lessons. They're there, 341 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's just what happens. It's part 342 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: of life, not not a failure on any level. Walk 343 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: us through how you practically exercise and practice self self love? 344 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: In other words, how could you do in this podcast 345 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: if someone's hearing, tell us how you practically, uh practice 346 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: self love? Chris, Yeah, thank you, and he's I'm so 347 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: thrilled you're asking such great questions today. Um, this again 348 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: has been a path. It really started a lot of 349 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: it with my partner who's here throwming me for for 350 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: our our company. She took me to my first guided meditation, 351 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: where we sat for half a day and listen to 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: somebody kind of walk us through meditation. And because of 353 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: that curiosity, and because of the kind of like outward 354 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: body experience I had sitting for four hours and not thinking, 355 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: letting thoughts come and go, being in the present moment, 356 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: and you're back to present moment in a second. Everything 357 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: in the past is never gonna happen again, and everything 358 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: in the future we have no idea about what's going 359 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: to actually happen. We have hopes and dreams and ambitions, 360 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: but we have no idea what's actually going to happen. 361 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: The only moment that we control is this moment that 362 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: we have right now. So if you want to practice 363 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: self love, be happy for this moment in this second 364 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: and ways that ground you and get you to kind 365 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: of decompress. I do a fifteen minute whim Hoff breathing 366 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: exercise every morning, every morning, fifteen minutes religiously. I start 367 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: every day for the last two and a half years 368 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: with that, and then I'll do like a five minute 369 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: gratitude medita asia where I just think about all the 370 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: things I can be grateful for, so if your heart 371 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: is beating and your lungs are breathing, you can be 372 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: grateful for your heart and your lungs. If nothing else 373 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: you could be grateful for you to be grateful for 374 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: those two things. That what attum. We're done right, So 375 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of just winding it back to very basic, simple stuff. 376 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: And then during that process, you're going to find self love, 377 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: You're gonna find acceptance. And I think, and I'm not preaching, 378 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm just sharing that when we find that for ourselves, 379 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: then we can share it with others who have been 380 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: some of the people that have motivated you. Even in 381 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the cosmetic industry. Family friends, former teammates, legend Um. There 382 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: is a guy named John Lesniac who I met at 383 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: sax Fat Avenue when I first launched Chella inside sax 384 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: At Avenue about ten years ago, and he's a cosmetic legend. 385 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: He was a VP of sales for a company called 386 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Max Factor. He actually um was the director of operations 387 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: for Landcom when they launched here Langcomb and asked the louder, 388 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: probably two the greatest cosmetic friends ever, you know, back 389 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: from his day, those were the main two Max Factors 390 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: More drug store, Landcomb and asked a louder or more 391 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: high and prestige, you know, um department store May season. 392 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: So I had the good fortune of meeting him and 393 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I took him to lunch and this is this is 394 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: this is the naimpathy. I'm a football player in cosmetics. 395 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: So we had this. We had one hour for lunch, 396 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: and the lunch went for three and a half hours, 397 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: and I just continued to pepper him for three and 398 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: a half hours with the questions. And at the end 399 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: of the lunch he said, I finally I gotta go. Um. 400 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: I said, can we spend the day together tomorrow? Just 401 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: teach me everything you know tomorrow. I'm like, oh, that 402 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: was gonna be learned in one day. He did the 403 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: same thing you're doing. He just laughing, Chris. He goes, 404 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: it's like an onion. There's just layers. You just keep 405 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: peeling the layers back and it never stopped. Chris wanted 406 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: think about your different professions, right and in all cosmetics. Um, 407 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: is there one single thought that you remember about mom 408 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: or dad that carries you every day? Wow? Oh, I 409 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: think I think for my dad it's positive thinking, like, oh, 410 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: he taught me the art of visualization. When I was 411 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: in high school. He said, picture every path perfectly in 412 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: your mind, coming into your hands and you catching it. 413 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Um And I think for my mom love and compassion. 414 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: She was just so loving and so generous and so compassionate. 415 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: I will being a part of the NFL brand and 416 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: you learn from not Face CEO about brand. Did that 417 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: come into play your experience in the NFL? Did you 418 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: think about how much does she We talk about the 419 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: shield the right, but it's the brand. Did that correlate 420 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: to you being in the NFL now that you're in business, Yeah, 421 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have ever made it and 422 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: had the business success that I had if I hadn't 423 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: made it in the NFL. The way that I did 424 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: that was to me, you know, a kind of a 425 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: capstone of you can do anything, anything is possible. When 426 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: you do something that most people think are is impossible, 427 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: then you have that confidence to go, wow, I can 428 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: do anything. And so that's why I say that intention 429 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: from the second grade has stuck because it's led me, 430 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, through my entire life to be able to 431 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: be fortunate enough and blessed enough to work with amazing people, 432 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: you know, being coached by Chuck Noel playing with you know, 433 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Donnie Shell and and John Stalworth and Larry Brown and 434 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: Mike Webster and all those guys. I mean I walked 435 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: into locker room, I could barely breathe as a rookie. 436 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm Bill Blunt, Blunt, my man y. Yeah, so Mail 437 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: is also It's it's true of us from Southern University 438 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Historical Black College University. Oh, Michael just and then Mail 439 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: was one of the guys I looked up to. Last question, Chris, Yeah, 440 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: can you share any final advice awards of wisdom to 441 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: all Legends or anyone else listening to this podcast that 442 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: you've experienced that you would like to poorly? I think 443 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: um the notion of being able to set an intention 444 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: no matter what your age, visualize it in your mind 445 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: and and and bring it to life. Know that you 446 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: can do it. Don't don't let anything set you back. 447 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Whatever happened in the past is done. Everything 448 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: is possible in a new day. The sun comes up. 449 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: You just keep trying and and let that journey guide you. 450 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: It may not be where you thought you were going 451 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: to go, but if you're going at it with love 452 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: and positivity and positive affirmations, you're gonna find someplace special 453 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: that you were meant to go. I said a final 454 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: question one more, did you utilize any of the NFL 455 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: resources in business or any of the programs. Well, you know, 456 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: I've been kind of absent from all of that, uh 457 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: And as for for pretty much up until I saw 458 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: a Steeler UH get together that they had to talk 459 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: about all the benefits of the leged community. I joined. 460 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: I filled out the paperwork, but it didn't get approved. 461 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know it didn't get approved in 462 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: terms of being in the legend directory. And then I 463 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: was like, I gotta I saw another email, so I 464 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: got back into it. And then just since I reconnected 465 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: only in thirty days, all this amazing stuff has happened 466 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: for me. And I'm so grateful to the leged community, 467 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: to the pillars that you guys are building, to the 468 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: infrastructure that you're putting together that help players. Um. So 469 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, I'm just scratching the surface. 470 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: But from what I see, there's invaluable resources there. And 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: I would, you know, suggest anybody there's some there's some 472 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: great gold there, you know, go dig for it and 473 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: find out. Been just so thankful for everybody's support in 474 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: the community. I see that was the final question. I 475 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: got one one. How how did you get the name Cello? 476 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: I love it so um. When I was twenty seven 477 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: years old to travel to Italy, fell in love with 478 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: the food, the people, the culture, everything about it. And 479 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: so when I came to try to name the company, 480 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to call it Hello Beautiful because I wanted 481 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the positive affirmation that when you're like open a box 482 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: it seeing Hello beautiful. And but it was trademarked. So 483 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I went back to my attorney and said, well, why 484 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: don't we call it chowd Bella. That's Hello beautiful in 485 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Italian And he said, Chris, he goes, it doesn't matter 486 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: what language it translates back to English, is hello beautiful. 487 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: You can't use chold Bella. I said, all right, let's 488 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: mash it together and just call it Cella. It was 489 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: a beautiful name. And how can people find out more 490 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: about Cella and what it is you're doing? Oh thank 491 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: you um if they go to uh www dot Cella 492 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: c H E l l A dot com. We have 493 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: an amazing line of brown products for brown makeovers and eyeshadows. 494 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: We're all brows and eyes, so that that would be 495 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: where you're going. We got If you follow us at 496 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Cella Beauty, on TikTok and Instagram, you'll see some some 497 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: great how two videos and looks and uh yeah, I 498 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: read Chris. For all the men, I'm covering my mouth 499 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: is the secret line where the men can call and 500 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: get their makeup, so all the ladies, no one else 501 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: and know that we're actually wear makeup. There you go, 502 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: you just you just email Chris and Chilla dot com. 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I got you on the downlow. Chris, this has been 504 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: an amazing podcast and it really has hit my heart 505 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: because I know there's so much greatness in us as legends. 506 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Yes and the bill part just what you said exclusive 507 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: one percent right of all high school players. I like 508 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: to tell people all the time, I know how to 509 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: become great at something, and it becomes a game changer 510 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: when you realize that what people thought was impossible has 511 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: not only become your possible, but it's been done. So 512 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: thank you. Uh this has been fantastic, Chris. The best 513 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: is yet to come. Thank you so much. I really 514 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: appreciate meeting you and being a part of this community 515 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: and you you and your team have brought it to 516 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: life for me and thank you so much for the 517 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: inny of you. Lovely great, thank you. This has been 518 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: the NFL Legends podcast. To provide feedback or requested topic 519 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: for discussion, email us at NFL Legends at NFL dot com.