WEBVTT - Divorced II (From the Archive)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised, this is

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Schwartz. While I'm on maternity leave. Noble Blood is

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<v Speaker 1>revisiting the original series I did years ago on the

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<v Speaker 1>Six Wives of Henry the Eighth. Today's episode is about

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<v Speaker 1>Anne of Cleaves, the German princess who is best known

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<v Speaker 1>for a painting that Henry the Eighth approved and then

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<v Speaker 1>in appearance in real life that he did not. But

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<v Speaker 1>the story might be a little more nuanced than.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have heard. I hope you enjoy. Anne of

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaves had traveled over three hundred miles by land and

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<v Speaker 2>by sea to come to England to meet her future

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<v Speaker 2>husband to be, King Henry the Eighth. Neither had laid

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on the other before the marriage arrangement was finalized,

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<v Speaker 2>but Henry had commissioned a portrait of Anne, and he

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<v Speaker 2>liked what he saw well enough to agree to the

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<v Speaker 2>diplomatic match, and so arrangements were made for the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four year old sister of a prominent duke to become

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<v Speaker 2>wife number four. After weeks of travel, Anne enterr entourage

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<v Speaker 2>made it to Rochester in England. On New Year's Eve,

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<v Speaker 2>the final day of fifteen thirty nine, she was staying

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<v Speaker 2>there at the Bishop's Palace. In three days time she

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<v Speaker 2>would make her way to London, where she was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to meet her future husband for the first time. On

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day, Anne found herself gazing out the window

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<v Speaker 2>of her bedchamber into the courtroom below, where a celebratory

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<v Speaker 2>bull baiting was occurring. Anne didn't speak English, only German,

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<v Speaker 2>and while her escorts had been nothing but polite and

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<v Speaker 2>deferential to her, she was still in an alien country

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<v Speaker 2>where the clothings, customs, even the smiles could be sinister.

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<v Speaker 2>They had warned her that the English court was a

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous place. Watching the men dance around the animals in

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<v Speaker 2>the courtyard below, the dog dodging in between the legs

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<v Speaker 2>of the bull, Anne wondered if she had come to

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<v Speaker 2>England to be predator or prey. She had the uneasy

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<v Speaker 2>sense that the position of queen wasn't a spectator role,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bull baiting never ends well for either the

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<v Speaker 2>dog or the bull. The English seemed to enjoy their

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<v Speaker 2>sports when they end in blood. It was at that

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<v Speaker 2>moment that her chamber door flung open, and nine men

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<v Speaker 2>wearing hooded cloaks swept into the room. Anne screamed, but

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<v Speaker 2>before the sound had even left her mouth, the tallest

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<v Speaker 2>of the men had ensnared her in his arms and

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to sweep her into a kiss. Anne wriggled away,

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<v Speaker 2>disgusted and called for help In German. She begged her

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<v Speaker 2>attendants for an explanation. The men didn't seem to mean

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<v Speaker 2>any harm. In fact, they had begun to laugh. The

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<v Speaker 2>man who had tried to kiss her, she saw, who

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<v Speaker 2>was not only the tallest but also the widest, had

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<v Speaker 2>an uneasy gait and a glint of red hair that

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<v Speaker 2>flashed from beneath his hood. After a few words in

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<v Speaker 2>English that Anne couldn't comprehend, all of the men walked away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a game, When of her attendants explained to

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<v Speaker 2>her a courtly game of chivalry. The men were pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to be robin Hood or romantic heroes. I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne replied, I'm going to marry the king. No, why

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<v Speaker 2>would anyone insult him by trying to compromise is my honor?

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<v Speaker 2>Anne got her answer a moment later, when the same

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<v Speaker 2>retinue of men re entered her chamber, this time without

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<v Speaker 2>their cloaks. Now the tall broad man wore purple and gold.

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<v Speaker 2>His hair and beard were red, and as he stepped forward,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone around Anne lowered into a bow. Anne bowed too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the man was King Henry the Eighth himself,

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<v Speaker 2>Not content to wait three days to see his bride.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry had come to surprise her early in disguise, imagining

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<v Speaker 2>that she would fall instantly in love, as soulmates do.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be like something out of the stories of

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<v Speaker 2>King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table, the

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful princess recognizing her love even as he's disguised as

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<v Speaker 2>a common knave. Henry had played masquerade games in court decades.

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<v Speaker 2>His courtiers were well practiced in both treating him with

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but flattery when he was in his flimsy disguises,

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<v Speaker 2>and at feigning delighted surprise when the king unmasked himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But Anne had never seen Henry before, let alone heard

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<v Speaker 2>of his proclivity for self indulgent theatrics. To her, here

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<v Speaker 2>was just a strange middle aged man attempting to assault

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<v Speaker 2>her days before her wedding. As soon as she saw

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<v Speaker 2>the King in his royal finery. She lowered her face

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<v Speaker 2>to the floor to avoid the discomfort of their mutual humiliation,

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<v Speaker 2>but King Henry just laughed and raised her up and

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<v Speaker 2>kissed her on the cheek. The two made polite conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with an interpreter and bid each other goodbye until they

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<v Speaker 2>would see each other in London in a few days time.

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<v Speaker 2>The disaster, it seemed, had been averted by their mutual

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<v Speaker 2>good humor, But the moment Henry left the Bishop's palace,

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<v Speaker 2>the good humor dissolved from his face, replaced with a scowl.

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<v Speaker 2>He turned to his minister, Thomas Cromwell, riding next to

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<v Speaker 2>him on a horse. I like her not, Henry said.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an inauspicious start to an inauspicious marriage. Though

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<v Speaker 2>Anne of Cleaves is now mainly remembered for being less

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<v Speaker 2>attractive than her portrait made her out to be, her

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<v Speaker 2>story goes much deeper than that. She spent her life

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<v Speaker 2>in England outliving all five of Henry's other wives, something

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<v Speaker 2>between a hostage and a casualty of Henry the Eighth's

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<v Speaker 2>narcissism and ego. She was a woman who did what

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<v Speaker 2>it took to survive. I'm Danish Schwartz, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>noble blood. It had been two years since Henry's third wife,

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<v Speaker 2>Jane Seymour, died after giving birth to their son, Edward.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry of course felt the immense relief at having a

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<v Speaker 2>male heir, a toddler whom everyone assured him was perfectly healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>But two years without a wife was enough time in mourning. Besides,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows you need a second son, just in case

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<v Speaker 2>a backup. Henry already had a tiny Prince of Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>and now he wanted a baby Duke of York. Henry's

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<v Speaker 2>first choice of bride was the beautiful French widow Madame

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<v Speaker 2>de Longueville born Mary of Geese. Henry sent envoys to

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<v Speaker 2>France to try to negotiate to try to entice her

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<v Speaker 2>to become the fourth Queen of England, but Mary of

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<v Speaker 2>Geese was already spoken for, engaged to the young and

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<v Speaker 2>very handsome King James of Scotland. Though Henry demanded some

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<v Speaker 2>diplomatic wheedling to try to break up their engagement, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lost cause. Both Mary of Geese and King

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<v Speaker 2>James of Scotland were attractive and in their twenties. Henry

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<v Speaker 2>was in his late forties, already expanding with a swollen

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<v Speaker 2>leg that needed to be periodically punctured to let the

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<v Speaker 2>ooze out. Mary politely declined his offer and married James.

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<v Speaker 2>A little stung, Henry asked the French ambassador to assemble

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<v Speaker 2>all of the eligible French women at the same manor

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<v Speaker 2>house in Calais so he Henry could come by and

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<v Speaker 2>choose one. The King of France, Francis the First, was

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<v Speaker 2>outraged when he heard Henry's proposition. It is not our custom,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote back, to display women of noble rank like

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<v Speaker 2>horses for sale. Henry would need to look further afield

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<v Speaker 2>to find his next bride. In Brussels, Henry's ambassador, Thomas Rothsley,

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<v Speaker 2>had finally convinced the beautiful Christina of Denmark to sit

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<v Speaker 2>for a portrait so that they could send it back

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<v Speaker 2>to Henry and he could see what she looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina was tall and willowy. She had dimples when she smiled,

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<v Speaker 2>one in each cheek and one that appeared in her

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<v Speaker 2>chin when she was laughing. She was widely praised among

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<v Speaker 2>the courts of Europe for her gentle nature. People whispered

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<v Speaker 2>that she was also brilliant she spoke three languages. She

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<v Speaker 2>also had very little interest in King Henry the Eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina knew all about what had happened to Catherine of

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<v Speaker 2>Aragon so cruelly disposed of, and to Anne Boleyn, and

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<v Speaker 2>the third one had died too, hadn't she No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was much safer not to be a wife at the

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<v Speaker 2>mercy of Henry's fickle whims and mercurial mood swings. While

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<v Speaker 2>Christina posed for her portrait, Rosley tried to convince her

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<v Speaker 2>of he Henry's charms. He told her that Henry was

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<v Speaker 2>gentle and kind and good. Christina couldn't help but laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at that, hard enough that the dimple in her chin appeared.

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<v Speaker 2>I would marry King Henry, she said, if I only

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<v Speaker 2>had an extra head to spare. Another dead end and

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<v Speaker 2>another blow to the ego of the king who had

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<v Speaker 2>once been celebrated for his looks and charm. And now

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<v Speaker 2>the need for Henry to make a diplomatic marriage was increasing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to the kerfuffle of divorcing Catherine of Aragon and

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<v Speaker 2>marrying Anne Boleyn, Henry was excommunicated, which meant any neighboring

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<v Speaker 2>country could invade England and claim it was in the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the Church, and the Catholic nations around England

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be getting pretty cozy. King Francis the First

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<v Speaker 2>and the Holy Roman Emperor Charles the Fifth looked to

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<v Speaker 2>be forging a little friendship. The two of them were

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<v Speaker 2>gallivanting around the Louver Palace together while the English ambassador

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<v Speaker 2>present was assigned the smallest, least hospitable rooms possible. If

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<v Speaker 2>the two of them united and attacked England, Henry had

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<v Speaker 2>very few international allies who would help him. Henry had

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<v Speaker 2>married for love before, and now he needed a foreign bride.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Henry was excommunicated, he still wasn't a Lutheran, which

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<v Speaker 2>limited his options for a bride a bit. What about

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<v Speaker 2>Cleves Julich, Henry's adviser, Thomas Cromwell offered one day. Their

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<v Speaker 2>new duke was a reformed Catholic, but no friend of

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<v Speaker 2>the pope, and he had an unmarried sister. When Rothsley

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<v Speaker 2>went to visit Cleaves, Germanic custom meant that the unmarried

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<v Speaker 2>girl appeared wearing heavy veils. Well, Henry bellowed when Rosley returned,

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<v Speaker 2>so much prettier than Christina of Denmark. Rothesley assured the King,

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<v Speaker 2>but Henry didn't need to take his word for it.

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<v Speaker 2>He had commissioned a portrait of the girl, Anne of

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaves by Hans Holbein, and when the portrait came back,

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<v Speaker 2>Henry was entranced. She had a gentle, kind face and

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<v Speaker 2>heavy lidded eyes that made her look both mysterious and wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry spent hours staring at the portrait, imagining his hands

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<v Speaker 2>around her tiny waist and his lips upon her perfect

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<v Speaker 2>smooth cheeks. The match was set. Twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 2>Anne of Cleaves, who had never before left the cloistered

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<v Speaker 2>confines of her family, was going to become the next

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of England. Though Anne of Cleaves had a sterling

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<v Speaker 2>noble lineage on both sides of her family, she was

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<v Speaker 2>almost entirely unprepared for life in the English court. No

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<v Speaker 2>one had ever really believed she would marry higher than

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<v Speaker 2>being a duchess. She spoke only German, no English or French,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was untrained in music and poetry. The only

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<v Speaker 2>dances she knew were the German ones she had grown

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<v Speaker 2>up with. But prepared or not, the chance to become

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<v Speaker 2>the Queen of England was not something her family was

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<v Speaker 2>going to refuse, especially because being unmarried at twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne was beginning to become a bit of an embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry wanted her to travel north via Antwerp on her

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<v Speaker 2>way to England so she wouldn't have to pass through

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<v Speaker 2>the lands of the Holy Roman Emperor, but that would

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<v Speaker 2>necessitate a longer sea voyage, and Anne's mother didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to risk Anne's complexion being damaged by the salty sea air.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, Henry only wanted her because he liked what

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<v Speaker 2>he saw in the portrait, so permission was asked and

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<v Speaker 2>granted by Charles the Fifth, and Anne and her retinue

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<v Speaker 2>of nearly three hundred people traveled across Europe towards her

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<v Speaker 2>new future in Calais, where Anne was set to board

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<v Speaker 2>a boat across the English Channel. Anne was delayed two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks by foul weather. Rothsley was apologetic. He brought Anne

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<v Speaker 2>to see the ship all ready for her departure, dripping

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<v Speaker 2>in festive streamers and ribbons and banners. No matter, Anne said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take this time to learn of my new people

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<v Speaker 2>and my new husband. While staying in Calais at the

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<v Speaker 2>home of Lord and Lady Lisel, Anne asked Rothsley for

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<v Speaker 2>his help via translator. Rothsley taught Anne how to play

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<v Speaker 2>Henry's favorite card game called Scent. Anne also requested that

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<v Speaker 2>Rothsley bring English noblemen and ladies to dine with her,

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<v Speaker 2>so that she could learn English table manners and become

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<v Speaker 2>more accustomed to the patter of their jokes and the

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<v Speaker 2>pattern of their speech. She didn't understand the language, but

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<v Speaker 2>she smiled and laughed alongside them. All the same letters

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<v Speaker 2>arrived for Henry describing how charming and good natured his

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<v Speaker 2>bride on the way was. Henry was jittery with anticipation.

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<v Speaker 2>He was supposed to spend Christmas with Anne, but the

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<v Speaker 2>weather delay meant he spent it alone. He paced his palaces,

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for her to arrive, like a package to be delivered. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>by New Year's Eve, Anne had made it to Richmond,

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<v Speaker 2>and Henry, not willing to wait any longer, rode out

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<v Speaker 2>to surprise her. That was when he first appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>her in his robin hood costume, imagining that she would

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<v Speaker 2>be so taken by his handsomeness that she would succumb immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Imminent marriage be damned. These were the sort of courtly

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<v Speaker 2>games that Henry was used to everyone around him indulging

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<v Speaker 2>him in. Catherine of Erica had grown up in the

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<v Speaker 2>great courts of Europe. She would have known exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>to react and clever. Anne Boleyn would have also perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>matched Henry in this game. But Anne of Cleves was

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<v Speaker 2>a complete stranger and totally unaware of both what Henry

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<v Speaker 2>looked like and of what the game she was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be playing was. She left Henry humiliated, smarting from

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<v Speaker 2>the pushed down knowledge that maybe he was no longer

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<v Speaker 2>as handsome as he once was. Well, what of it,

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<v Speaker 2>Henry thought, She is not so pretty herself, not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as pretty as that portrait made her out to be.

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<v Speaker 2>His first three marriages had been love matches with women

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<v Speaker 2>who matched him in wits and flattered him with affection.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Henry was being roped into a diplomatic marriage with

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<v Speaker 2>a stranger, and he did not care for it one bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Anne of Cleaves arrived in London in a drawn chariot

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<v Speaker 2>flanked by one hundred horsemen wearing livery embroidered with golden lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Anne was escorted to a massive pavilion with lit fires

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<v Speaker 2>inside where she was dressed in a gold gown with

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<v Speaker 2>a round skirt in the Dutch fashion, and given a

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<v Speaker 2>round pearl bonnet to set atop her head. As for Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>when she arrived, he played the part of the loving groom,

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly smiling and extending his arms and kissing her in

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<v Speaker 2>welcome But as soon as the pageant was over he

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<v Speaker 2>turned to Cromwell, Get me out of this marriage, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>But it was too late. The wheels of diplomacy had

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<v Speaker 2>already been set into motion. If Henry were to reject

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<v Speaker 2>Anne at this point, he would anger not only Anne

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<v Speaker 2>in her powerful family, but all of their allies across Germany,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if he was rejecting her for no good reason. Cromwell,

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<v Speaker 2>for his part, tried his best back. When Anne had

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<v Speaker 2>been ten, she had been temporarily engaged to the Duke

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<v Speaker 2>of Lorraine. If she was pre contracted, that would avoid

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<v Speaker 2>the marriage arrangement with Henry. The ambassador from Cleaves was

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<v Speaker 2>confused when Cromwell brought it up to him. She was

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<v Speaker 2>a child, then, he said, it was before the age

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<v Speaker 2>of consent. No one actually believes it was a legitimate engagement.

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<v Speaker 2>Cromwell knew that well enough but still Cromwell had the

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<v Speaker 2>confused and scrambling ambassador from Cleaves agreed to send for

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<v Speaker 2>the proper paperwork back in Germany that would prove that

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<v Speaker 2>Anne was completely free and clear to marry Henry as

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knew. The two were married. On January sixth, fifteen forty.

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<v Speaker 3>The forty eight year old King Henry the eighth got

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<v Speaker 3>married for the fourth time to Anne of Cleaves. She

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<v Speaker 3>wore her long blonde hair loose beneath a golden cornet

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<v Speaker 3>set with jewels and fresh sprigs of rosemary. That evening,

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<v Speaker 3>they were ceremonially put to bed so that the pair

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<v Speaker 3>might conceive another son for Henry, a little Duke of York.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't Henry, how do I put this, couldn't sail

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<v Speaker 3>his boat without a stiff breeze. Young virginal Anne, who

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<v Speaker 3>had only been instructed with the vaguest possible descriptions of

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<v Speaker 3>what was expected of her, to spend the night asleep

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<v Speaker 3>next to her new husband. The next morning, Henry confronted Cromwell.

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<v Speaker 3>I like her not before, but now I like her

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<v Speaker 3>much less. He consulted his doctors about his sexual problems,

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<v Speaker 3>while making it very clear to anyone who would listen

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<v Speaker 3>that it was not his fault. I mean I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the way her breasts and her belly sagged. Henry said,

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<v Speaker 3>she probably wasn't even a virgin.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry made sure that the doctors wrote down that it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't his fault. He wasn't impotent. He had two missions

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<v Speaker 2>in the night in his sleep. Doctors advised that he

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<v Speaker 2>take a night off from trying, and so on the

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<v Speaker 2>third night, he once again went to Anne's bed, where

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<v Speaker 2>he once again failed to consummate the union. No virgin

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<v Speaker 2>has breasts like that, Henry said, that has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a good enough reason to get this marriage in alled right.

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<v Speaker 2>What more proof could I possibly need? Also, she smells.

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<v Speaker 2>To make matters worse, the Franco imperial threat that Cromwell

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<v Speaker 2>had warned about never actually materialized, which meant that this

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<v Speaker 2>diplomatic marriage, which had seemed so important, was now basically worthless.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Anne was still in the slow process of learning English,

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<v Speaker 2>it was abundantly clear that Henry wasn't pleased with her.

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<v Speaker 2>He kissed her good morning and good night, and came

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<v Speaker 2>to her bedroom, but his increasing chill was obvious in

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<v Speaker 2>any language. Anne began wearing a French hood, like the

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<v Speaker 2>kind that Anne Boleyn used to wear, one that showed

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<v Speaker 2>off her beautiful blonde hair, but Henry paid her no attention.

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<v Speaker 2>He much preferred flirting with the very young Katherine Howard,

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<v Speaker 2>a very pretty teenager who, like the late Anne Boleyn,

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<v Speaker 2>was a niece of the powerful Duke of Norfolk. When

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<v Speaker 2>it was time for Anne of Cleaves to establish her

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<v Speaker 2>own household at Greenwich, all of her ladies in waiting

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<v Speaker 2>were Henry's choice. Anne requested that one of the ladies

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<v Speaker 2>be Catherine Beset, the daughter of Lord Liesl, who had

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<v Speaker 2>been so warm and hospitable to her during her two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks stay in Calais, but Henry rejected the proposition, not

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<v Speaker 2>attractive enough. If he was going to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>married to an ugly wife, he at least wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be surrounded by attractive ladies in waiting. Of course, Catherine

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<v Speaker 2>Howard was given a position outside the bedroom. Anne of

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaves was finding that she was good at being queen,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was, for the most part enjoying it. Though

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<v Speaker 2>she had been Catholic, of course, she converted to Anglicanism

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<v Speaker 2>when she married Henry. The Reformers loved her, and the

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<v Speaker 2>people loved her, mostly because she wasn't that social climbing

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 2>little nobody Catherine Howard, who seemed to be monopolizing all

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<v Speaker 2>of the King's attention. Everyone seemed to find Anne of

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaves charming, everyone except her husband. Even after three wives.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing remained consistent about Henry the Eighth. When he

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<v Speaker 2>was done with a woman, he wanted her out of

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<v Speaker 2>sight so he didn't have to deal with her himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Late in the spring, just months after their wedding, Anne

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<v Speaker 2>got word that Henry wanted her household moved to Richmond,

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<v Speaker 2>far from the plague in London. She was told it

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<v Speaker 2>was a thin excuse. I'm going the way of Catherine

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<v Speaker 2>of Arragon, She told one of her ladies. He's disposing

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<v Speaker 2>of me. What power did she have to stop him.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in a foreign country where she didn't speak

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<v Speaker 2>the language and had no power. Her brother seemed very

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<v Speaker 2>far away, and anyway, she believed it was her fault.

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<v Speaker 2>If she had been able to consummate the marriage with Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>none of this would be happening. In the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night on June twenty fourth, a messenger arrived and

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<v Speaker 2>an interpreter delivered the news to Anne. That the King

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<v Speaker 2>was beginning an investigation to determine whether or not their

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<v Speaker 2>marriage was valid. With extraordinary composure, Anne signed the request. Anna,

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<v Speaker 2>daughter of Cleaves, thanked the man and went about her business.

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<v Speaker 2>Her confusion, her shame, her hurt, her fear. All of

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<v Speaker 2>that was dealt with. Cromwell knew he was hanging on

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<v Speaker 2>by a thin rope. After all, the marriage to Anne

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<v Speaker 2>of Cleaves had been his idea all along, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it was a disaster. He needs to figure out a

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<v Speaker 2>way to give the King the divorce he wanted and fast.

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<v Speaker 2>During the investigation, two of Anne's ladies testified they had

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<v Speaker 2>talked with the brand new queen a few weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>her wedding and inquired as to whether a little prince

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<v Speaker 2>might be on the way. According to them, Anne said

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<v Speaker 2>that the King kissed her good night and fell asleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in the morning bid her farewell. Anne had

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the ladies with wide doe eyes. That's enough, right,

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<v Speaker 2>she asked. That story became the gossip of court, repeated

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<v Speaker 2>endlessly until ultimately it became an anecdote of history to

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<v Speaker 2>prove that Anne of Cleaves was not only a virgin,

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<v Speaker 2>but so innocent that she didn't even know what the

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<v Speaker 2>act of sex was. The truth of it was those

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<v Speaker 2>two ladies were trying to tell Henry's commission what they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to hear, proof that the marriage was never consummated. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne wasn't nearly fluent in English at that point. If

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<v Speaker 2>that private conversation had taken place, it would have been

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy of confusion on both sides. Henry's assembly of

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<v Speaker 2>clergymen examined the charges, first that Anne of Cleaves had

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<v Speaker 2>already been betrothed, second that the wedding was never consummated,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course not because Henry was impotent, And third

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<v Speaker 2>that Henry had never consented to the marriage. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, he consented in his manner and fashion of behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>but inside, inside he was troubled. On July seventh, the

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<v Speaker 2>marriage was deemed invalid. Anne received the news with genuine

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<v Speaker 2>grace after the trouble Catherine of Aragon had given him.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry was so relieved that Anne wasn't going to put

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<v Speaker 2>up a fight that he granted her an extremely generous settlement,

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<v Speaker 2>two palaces, a large annual income, furniture land, a household.

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Anne had only one request that her former stepdaughter Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>might be allowed to visit her every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and Henry gladly accepted. Of course, he wrote, I know

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<v Speaker 2>how this annulment pains her, considering the great love and

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<v Speaker 2>affection which she seems to have for my person. Henry

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<v Speaker 2>did require one thing of Anne that caused her to

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<v Speaker 2>struggle to write a letter to her brother telling him

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<v Speaker 2>of the new arrangement, so that he wouldn't be angry

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<v Speaker 2>at Henry. Anne swallowed the humiliation and wrote that her

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<v Speaker 2>body remained in the same integrity with which she brought

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<v Speaker 2>it to England, and that the King had quote kindly

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<v Speaker 2>adopted her as his beloved sister. She asked her brother

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<v Speaker 2>to treat Henry with kindness and told him that she

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<v Speaker 2>would be staying in England as required by the terms

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<v Speaker 2>of their settlement. Anne's family privately was of course outraged.

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Her sister always continued to refer to her as the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of England, and they never blamed her. Everyone knew

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>what a nightmare Henry was when it came to women,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and from the people of England. There came a massive

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>outpouring of public sympathy towards the woman jilted for a

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 2>teenage would be mistress. With marriage behind them and the

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<v Speaker 2>pressures of the wedding bed gone, Henry and Anne's relationship

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<v Speaker 2>vastly improved, especially once Anne became fluent enough in English

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>for the pair to talk and realize they actually had

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot in common. Anne lived happily enough, making a

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>mini Germany of her household, and, according to one observer,

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<v Speaker 2>wearing new dresses every day. About a year after Little

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<v Speaker 2>Katherine Howard, former Lady in waiting, became Queen, Anne of Cleaves,

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>came to Hampton Court for New Year's Catherine was terrified

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 2>and insecure, unsure what the protocol was for a former

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>queen to come and greet her, but Anne of Cleaves

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was grace itself. She brought a New Year's gift of

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 2>horses for the couple and greeted Catherine with a deep bow.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Henry came in, kissed Anne, and the three of them

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<v Speaker 2>had what was, by all accounts, the least awkward dinner

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<v Speaker 2>among exes in history. Still gracious as she was, Anne

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was still a little secretly pleased to hear about Catherine's fall.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Anne even thought that maybe she would get a second

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>chance of being queen now that he had gotten his

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>fling out of the way, maybe Henry would want to

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>remarry her, but unfortunately that hope was dashed. Anne's former stepdaughter,

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Mary Mary Tudor, came to visit Anne at Richmond, but

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<v Speaker 2>had to leave suddenly. Anne found out why two weeks later,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>when Henry came by to tell her that he had

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<v Speaker 2>gotten married to a woman named Catherine Parr. Anne never

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>married again. In her mind, she was always still married

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to Henry the Eighth. After his death, she even briefly

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>tried to overturn the annulment ruling to make her settlement

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>more generous, but the council of the brand new young

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>King Edward didn't bite. With Henry's death, Anne's status was

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<v Speaker 2>reduced from that of the king's sister to the king's aunt,

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>so although she lived comfortably, her position was still limited,

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>especially when her brother lost his lands to the Holy

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Roman Emperor, which meant that even if she wanted to

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>give up her English property, she wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>return home.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>For the last decades of her life, Anne's real family

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<v Speaker 2>was the household she maintained. They became her friends and confidants,

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<v Speaker 2>and Anne finally died aged forty one, She left generous

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>gifts to the poor surrounding her properties and to her

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<v Speaker 2>entire household staff. In her will, she referred to them

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<v Speaker 2>all by name, an extraordinary gesture of the charm and

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>kindness that hadn't won over a king but managed to

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>win over everyone else. That's the story of Anne of

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<v Speaker 2>Cleves's brief marriage to Henry the Eighth, But stick around

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<v Speaker 2>after a sponsor break for a little bit more about

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the marriage's consequences. Anne managed to get out of her

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>marriage to King Henry the Eighth with her head, but

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<v Speaker 2>the same wasn't true for Thomas Cromwell, Henry's former chief minister.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Bromwell had been the one who pushed Henry into the

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>marriage with Anne, who told him that France and the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Roman Emperor were going to forge an alliance, and

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<v Speaker 2>Cromwell had maybe overplayed Anne's beauty to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>Henry accepted the match. While the Council was examining the

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<v Speaker 2>validity of Henry's marriage to Anne of Cleaves in the

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<v Speaker 2>summer of fifteen forty, Cromwell was thrown into the Tower

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<v Speaker 2>of London. Cromwell was beheaded without a trial on charges

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<v Speaker 2>of treason to the delight of his political enemies. There's

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<v Speaker 2>always a cost for a bad marriage with Henry the Eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Noble Blood is a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and

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<v Speaker 2>Mild from Aaron Mankey. Noble Blood is hosted by me

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<v Speaker 2>Danash Schwartz, with additional writing and research by Hannah Johnston, Annaswick,

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<v Speaker 2>Courtney Sender, Amy Hit and Julia Milani. The show is

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<v Speaker 2>edited and produced by Jesse Funk, with supervising producer rima

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