WEBVTT - Hour 1: 5th Year Eligibility Granted 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.480 Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.240 in for the Dan Patrick Show. Coming up on this 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.719 Thursday edition, we are going to tell you more about 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.400 the story that has got this show all hot and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.960 bothered about what it's going to look like on one 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.079 college campus during games this season. Plus, we're going to 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.720 have a conversation about how many twenty two plus and 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.760 beyond players in the NFL, some of which have already 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.560 partaken and recorded multiple sacks and preseason games that are 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.760 going to be on some of those college football rosters 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.560 this upcoming season. 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It's all yours and we 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.040 got the usual shenand against of course, well, it's two 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.600 pros and a. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.000 Cup of Joe. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.600 LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for the Dan 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.440 Patrick Show right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:12.000 the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 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We'll try and figure this whole thing 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:45.839 out here. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.160 You want to try to make it back to CRPGM 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:56.560 if you can, you can't get to it, okay, Well, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:02.480 and you're not on air, All right, Well let's let's 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.360 get into what a what an interesting way to start 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:05.680 the show. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.559 But that's all right. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:12.360 Uh yeah, as you heard Jonas Knox before his technical difficulties, 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:17.800 drug him down the toilet bowl. I'll take over for 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.520 everyone right here, and well, let's start this thing off 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.000 with a little bit of liberty mutual. Everyone's searching for 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.920 ways to save on insurance. 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Text it well about you 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.040 discovered a charge card that you said you've never seen before. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:24.480 Oh yeah, I saw. I saw an American Express come out. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.480 Where was I at? Oh no, yeah, where. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.359 Was I I don't even I was at the ivy. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.160 There you go, thanks, Patty. I was at the ivy 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.040 and I was having lunch with with Penn, with my 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.480 my youngest daughter. We were having daddy daughter date. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.920 And you know, you know, I don't. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:42.360 I'm not. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.280 I'm not impressed by very much. It's not it's just 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.720 I just live life. It is what it is, and 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.120 it's not very often something pops up and I'd be like, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.040 oh s look at that. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:54.760 But you did last night. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.160 Man, it was during the day last night too, last 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.560 night too. I mean she saw my wife last night. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:01.760 Holy moldly. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.120 By the way, you should see the watch when I 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:05.280 get that feet. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.560 Yeah, bro's got to watch on right now. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.280 That's gotta be four million dollars. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.280 But this this, this guy that was serving the table 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.000 was paying the bill like he he put the bill 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.920 like the card in the pet and it just hit 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.440 my eye like it like blinded me for a second, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.440 like like the sun rays hit it. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.880 It bounced off of the card. It hit me in 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.359 the face and blinded me. And I could I could 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.679 sue American Express for this card. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.039 I don't. I've never seen a card this color. I'm not. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.400 I've seen black, I've seen red. I've seen a few 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.560 American Express cards and you touch them, it's like, oh, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.600 that's a card. But this one was different. I said, 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.320 that's gotta be like oil money or something something. There's 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.760 something different about this card that I've never seen. But 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.760 it was it was almost like titanium platinum mixed with 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.680 white gold, mixed with something silver mixed with every precious 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.279 metal that that existed. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.800 When they drop it on the table to make a 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.680 big clattering sound like, it sounded very solid. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.839 I don't think Day was dropping that card. That card 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.240 almost looked like you could put it like on your necklace, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.680 like a like you could wear it like a charm 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:29.400 after you're done dazzled. No, it was so it looked 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.200 like it. I can't explain. I just explained it the 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.200 best way that I can. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.560 Dude, come on, you could compare it to. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.920 I just explained it the best way that I could 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.560 explain it. You would have had to have seen it. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.480 I've never seen heavy. I've never seen one like. I 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.839 didn't touch it heavies. But they're all heavies. They're all heavy. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.800 And that wasn't even that was That was just the 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.240 warm up. So I became best friends with Sean Kimp 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.080 last night. That's my best Now we will be forever 0:05:59.320 --> 0:05:59.920 best friends. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.800 Out man, I. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.640 Don't think you understood like I didn't get many jerseys 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.800 when I was young. I had a Sean Camp jersey though, man, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.159 I loved Sean Camp. I have no idea why I 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.000 grew up a Cleveland sports fan. I maybe had like 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.160 a Mark Price Jersey, maybe a Brad Doerdy. That's it. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.159 Like then it was Sean Camp. I have no idea 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.039 why I was the biggest fan of Sean Camp. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.560 But those Sonics teams were so cool. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.000 There was Gary Paton was in there last night. They 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.840 was up in there, Sam Cassell. I saw Sam talk 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:35.719 to Sam. Mike Players hold on so so, Mike Irvin. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.320 Was in there. T O was in there. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.880 Man there there there were a ton now, I mean 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.440 it was it was a who's who of people up 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.520 in there. And I tell you what, there was a 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:56.839 whole lot of chum too. Oh yeah, oh oh my gosh. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.320 You want to talk about attracting the sharks. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:06.839 Shut Penn State fratnizing going on there? 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.920 Hell yeah, oh yeah. It was all kinds of. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.960 Who says it doesn't I saw speaking of cocaine. I mean, 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.520 I mean, but you know, you think of usual suspects 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.880 and verbal Kemp and Kaiser. I met Sammy Sosa, like 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.320 I met Sammy Sosa last night. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:29.600 Man. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.000 Ralph Sampson was up in there. Uh there was. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.440 There was just a gang like the Pump Brothers are 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.400 super dope and they they they represent such great causes 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.960 many They represent the youth, take care of the youth. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.360 They they do so many great things in the community. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.920 I don't know how they get so many people to 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.320 come out, man, I mean they Marcus Allen was up 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.840 in there. Uh, talk to him. He's coming to the 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.520 white out this year, so that should be fun. I 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.680 told him, you're gonna come with me? 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:57.240 Which one? 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.240 They're multiple now there, No, it's not. It's just more 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.000 celebrated now, Like can you imagine the thing white out? 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.200 It will be much more celebrated this year. Yeah, that's 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.560 well said. I mean imagine, by the way, imagine all 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.560 the jokes for Halloween. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:19.120 White out? 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.880 How many how many people do you think are going 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.560 to go dressed as Pablo from Narcos for Halloween? Oblo 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.200 for what they call him, fradilbar Ledge, gbar Ledge, Gbaran. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.960 I mean people we became famous overnight, Like Penn State 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:36.760 is now like. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.640 A Colt, a Colt hero or something. I don't know. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.440 I mean I always said, like everybody was joking, right, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.240 So the minute somebody make a joke about it, like oh, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.040 they're doing that cocaine at your school, Like how many 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.080 times you done cocaine? 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:50.800 They shut up. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.559 I was gonna say you over being. You're a little 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.719 sensitive about it yesterday. Now I think we could joke 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.920 about it. No, I wasn't sensitive about it. I went 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.079 through the scandal. I went through the scandal, bro, like cocaine. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:10.160 Sorry, no disrespect, But there's probably anybody out there that's 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.600 judging them kids like, yeah, judge them for selling it. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.920 But most of y'all, y'all don't used cocaine. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.000 Like, yeah, Like, you're lying to yourself and other people 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.840 if you tell them you didn't partake in it. Now, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.280 at the end of the day, I don't like the 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.480 fact that we keep getting in trouble. But I went 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.440 through the sex scale. Bro, I don't there's nothing that 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.680 even comes. But I don't get I don't get sensitive 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.840 about it. It doesn't you know, it doesn't equate to 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:34.800 how bad that that. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.480 I'll say this much. You guys could have had a 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.880 huge nil sponsor. You know if. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.040 Hey, bro, can you imagine the money we be washing 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:45.560 and getting? 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.400 What's the Let me actually look up what's the nearest 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.600 ski resort next to State College? 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:51.520 Chessea Mountain? 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:52.640 There you go? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.160 Why go there when we can bring it here? Well? 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:03.640 Well, here's the thing, it's till the summer. You want 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.960 to go skiing in August? Can you help us out. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.880 Let's come in, let's come in, and let's let's spray 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.079 the mountain. I mean, you know, maybe that's why some 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.320 of these guys that are like thirty eight years old 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:25.600 are trying to go back and get their eligibility. You apparently, no, apparently, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.120 and I'm shocked to see that. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.160 You guys lovely crack. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.800 By the way, I would have said crack, I would 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:38.480 have been offended. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.120 I ain't gonna lie to you. If they just said. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.800 Crack, they out there up school, they smoking crack, I'd 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.040 be like, you know what, that's offensive. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.640 I don't like. But we have the rich man's drug. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.120 So that is true. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.440 That's a good way of looking at looking at it. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.720 Let's be hot, let's be high class degenerates if we're 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:00.360 going to do it. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:06.400 So I was I'm impressed by your guys' commitment to 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.240 this business because I thought for sure when the news 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.160 came out that all of a sudden, there's a the 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.679 ability for multiple players that have been signed by NFL 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.120 teams to go back to college because they'd like to 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.480 get another year of eligibility, including somebody who had two 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.400 sacks in a preseason game over the weekend. This whole 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.839 thing is wild that we are at the point now 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.120 where you can sign with a roster, be on an 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.960 NFL roster, be active in NFL games preseason or not, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.839 and still be able to go back to college. Based 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.840 on what happened yesterday and the ruling that came out yesterday, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:52.760 I don't get it. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.120 A few things here, the first being that some players 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.280 who are currently under contract are working with their agent 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.679 to get released out of that contract before think about that, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.120 before they even get cut by an NFL team, or 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.680 if there's a chance they get cut by an NFL team, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.840 they're already trying to work on and in most cases, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.079 these guys went undrafted, so they're already trying to work 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.360 on getting back to the college level where there's more 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.440 of a guarantee of what they're going to make. They'll 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.120 be highly coveted because of their age, experience, and obviously 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.160 if they're able to at least make an NFL roster, 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.360 it gives you a sense of how good they are 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.240 and how good they'll be at the college level. So 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.040 it's crazy that this you know what. July thirty first 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.960 Colorado Federal judge ruling has now had this sort of impact, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.040 as all these other players have filed lawsuits as well 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.560 to be able to find their way back for this 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.440 fifth year if they graduated high school in twenty twenty two. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:13:00.120 So it's wild to think that, man. I mean, it's 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.000 a part of me that, like, does pride exist for 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.440 some of these guys though? Like is there an element 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.120 in your back of your mind where you're like, no, dude, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.679 I wouldn't pro like I just had two sacks in 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.160 a game. I don't need to go back to college. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:09.600 You Nope. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.880 It would just feel like a little Van Wilder. It's like, yeah, ah, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.920 the old guys back. Oh, here we go. Here we 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.840 go again. Like, I don't know, man, something about it 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.480 just maybe just because the area in which we played LeVar. Yeah, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.000 it sits weird with me. I just feel like, I 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.720 don't know, kind of like a loser, like I couldn't 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.720 make it at that level or there was some concern. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.440 So I'm coming back and down here for another year. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:31.440 Let's run it back. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.920 Can I let me ask this question, does a year 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.520 make a difference in making it onto an NFL roster. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:44.160 I told my son this is true story both of them. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:50.719 If you're not NFL ready by your third year of college, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.600 If you're not NFL ready by your third year of college, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.600 start thinking about what your other opportunities in life are 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.800 going to be. Go to the resource offices, meet with 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.880 your professors, figure out what it is that you're going 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.120 to do. Because the best time for you to get 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.920 hired and get recruited to a job where you can 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.480 grow in it and have a pretty decent ceiling is 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.880 while you're in school. I feel like outside of certain industries, 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:24.040 if you graduate, if you leave school, you're now immediately 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.960 overqualified to get the job, and they're going to get 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.000 somebody that's already in school that they're recruiting out of 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.240 school to come get that job. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.200 What if you're not ready by your fifth year, If. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:37.760 You're not ready by your third year, could something possibly 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.360 potentially happen you have a growth spurt, you got a 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.760 late one, or you were a young freshman, a young 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.360 sophomore and starting to get a little older as a junior. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.440 I would say yes, there are some exceptions to the rule, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:57.920 but largely if you haven't acclimated to college football well 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.400 enough to be on the board to actually be a 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:06.480 legitimate employee for the National Football League if you went 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.280 to the National Football League right now as a fourth 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.920 year senior, as if you come out as a junior, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.880 you better make it, because that's stupid to come out 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.320 early and you don't make it in If you come 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.320 out as a senior to go into the NFL and 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.880 you're not going to make a team, does coming back 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.600 to college give you an extra or did you go to. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.480 Camp and you're like, oh, I see what I have 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:28.760 to do. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.680 Let me go back to college and practice it and 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.560 see if I can get it right for next year. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.720 I just don't think you're going to improve enough to 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.680 be able to make it next year either. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.440 So here's where I'd say I think they can is 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.960 look at the case of Fernando Mendoza. Had he not 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.720 gone to Indiana and spent that year where they win 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.840 a national championship, he wins the Heisman, is he going 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.280 to be the number one overall pick? My guess is no. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.800 He was at Cal, a starter, played for a couple 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.360 of years, was a good player, maybe even draftable, but 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.040 not first to overall pick. So yeah, I would. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.280 Say, definitely can make it though that's draft stuff. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.280 But but but that's real, Like, to me, that's real 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.920 because that's what you're ultimately talking about. You were talking 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.960 about some of these guys who are able to come 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.320 back for one more year granted be a fifth year, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.800 and be able to be a guy who's undraftable to 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.280 a guy who maybe goes the middle rounds. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.880 So yeah, that makes a big difference. I look at 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.200 losing your job. That's how I'm looking at it. You 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.880 get into the league, whether you got drafted, whether you 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.480 were unrestricted free agent, and you're not going to But. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.520 That's not how they're not that's not how they're looking 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.160 at it. Like they're looking at their earning potential playing 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.560 the game of football. And now it's start your clock 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.400 starts in college. You know it used to be in 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.640 the NFL, So you'd be looking at, Okay, how do 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.560 I get to a second contract? How do I maximize 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.960 my chances of getting that big second contract, because that's 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.000 really where all the money is, and if you're lucky 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.320 enough and healthy enough, you can make the third contract. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.480 But now these guys are like, I'm trying to earn 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.080 all I can while I can play the game of football, 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.200 and that might start for some in high school. That 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.280 might start then for some once to get to college. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.200 But if they're into the third year and if they're 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.280 making money but they're not one of those top guys, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.119 I would actually say what you're saying is great and 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.359 it's right, like you're not an outlier. But I would 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.400 say this. I would say, if you're not draft eligible, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.240 meaning like you haven't separated yourself by your third year, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.600 I would say you should want to go for two 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.880 more years. You should want to maximize all you can 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.760 because there is a huge gap in between. You know, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.640 pick your player that's going to be coming back, who 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.520 just got cut in camp or is trying to get 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.560 released to go back to play for his fifth year 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.840 in college football. He's probably gonna make half a million dollars, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.840 maybe more, depending on the position, depending on the school 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.359 and how much how much they have left in the 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.160 budget for him. It could be a million dollars. If 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.320 that guy was undrafted. He's not making that right. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.200 So all I'm saying, you know, you answered the question then, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.080 so it's not even really about you guys. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.440 You said, do they have shame to go back? 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.919 No, because there's a there's a business element, but I 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.760 still would be going back kind of like, hey guys, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.280 I'm back again. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.000 You know what I was, you know the other takeaway, Hey. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:26.480 Let's let's run back again. Yes, yeah, you know imagine 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.159 the program they do it. They do a program to 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.560 or it was a program. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:37.119 They're just like all right here again, you know. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:41.119 But this also exposes how good the NFL is. It 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.800 does expose the talent or because some of these guys 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.879 will go back to college and be ballers for their team, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.879 they'll be bothered it's to college. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.720 It's twofold. It does show you how obviously incredible it 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.800 is to play in the NFL for any period of time. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.399 But it also shows you, like, still how good that 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:02.960 guy is, Like, yeah, he kind of made it for 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.120 a little bit or was there, but also he's damn 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.000 good at college football. Like I was just talking to 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.199 you my sister about something today about you know, just 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.920 the odds of you know, one of their friends got 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:16.399 a women's Division one scholarship. You go to play soccer, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.320 and it was like, you know how hard that is? 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.600 You know if you do the stats on it, like 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.760 she is the three percent of probably America that can 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.280 go play for a Division I program in a women's 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.439 soccer program, considering all the competition there is for that, Like, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.159 they're they're pretty damn good. And if you're this kid 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.040 where you even have a chance of getting drafted, or 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.320 you go and can actually play in a preseason game, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.680 be successful, and then you come back down you're highly coveted. Yeah, 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.479 you're pretty damn good. Like I think all of it 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.399 kind of demonstrates how good they are even at each level. 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.560 But yeah, I mean, obviously the NFL level is the 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.480 you know, ultimate level you're trying to get to and 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.720 and play at as long as you can while you can. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.119 I just I don't know, man, like I would. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.520 I mean, what's what are we talking about different wise 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.600 from you know, these guys going to the NFL, Like 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.120 a guy like you know, Jack Pieburn who had two 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.480 sacks in a preseason game and now he's, you know, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:10.920 thinking about going. 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:11.840 Back to college. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.960 I mean, what would he be making as a rookie 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.360 as opposed to what he could get NIO wise. 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.439 Rookie minimum is probably what seven hundred thousand if he 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.280 made the roster, and that wouldn't come out until you know, 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:28.040 week one, you know that that week because obviously they'll 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.960 have cuts after camp and then there's some roster shuffling, 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.439 and really it's that week one game day roster that 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.760 solidifies your position. But it could be less than that 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.919 if he's on the practice squad. And that's what I 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.480 think some of these guys are worried about. Now, private 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.119