1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. The single best idea 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts. Thank you for the interest in the podcast. 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Six minutes, five minutes, seven minutes. Two conversations that matter. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: The conversations this Friday were really, really different. I've never 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: said this. I'm going to say it right now. On Wednesday, 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: I thought I had a handle on what we're going 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: to do next Wednesday at the FED meeting. I was wrong. 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: In forty eight hours, there's been a complete shift in 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: the gaming of the FED meeting. I'm not a big 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: one in the parlor game. John Farrell loves it, Lisa 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: does it. I don't do it. I just really don't 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: care about the parlor game. Except on Thursday and this Friday. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: It really, really, really mad. And it's what you've seen 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: in is melt up in stocks. We'll see where we 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: are at the market clothes on Friday into Monday and 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday towards their FED coverage of Wednesday. If you talk 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to someone holistic and Efan devit is like literally with 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: fingers left over on two hands. One of the best 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: in the world. She's from Ireland, hugely, hugely competent in law, 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: in investment, in finance, and you talk about the stagflation 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: of it all, a little bit of slow down, a 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit of inflation, or something different. Efan devit Monetta, I. 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: Don't see the inflation part of the stagflation. I do 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: see stagnation though, and certainly within Europe there is very 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: little in terms of green shoots. We don't have that 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: same innovation and technology push that we've seen in the US. 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: The inflation, though, I think is fairly confidently in retreat 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: in Europe as it is around the world. There could 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: be spikes that could be service level spikes. We could 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: see some spikes and energy if we enter winter where 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: we have energy shortages or issues like that. But I 32 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: don't see the inflation part is really kicking us off. 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: The stagnation part that that's concerning growth is quite anemic 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: and we haven't had that hard landing. So therefore there 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: could be these cracks that will start turning into fishers 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: and ultimately will undermine some of these corporates who just 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: can't keep make ends meet or keep things together. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: Even Devin Manetta and the equity markets, Emily Rowland John 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Hancock was great. She's been quality by American stick with 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: that she clearly redid that call today, renewed that call today. 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: There are some others during the week. Kim Dawson of 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: Newage and Juda Martin Adams of Bloomberg Intelligence Equities both 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: said the same thing separately, which is double digit earning growth, 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: which has a huge part to do with the denominator 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: of it all over in the quant chart basis, you 46 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: have someone like Alpha Simplex up on the Charles River 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: in Boston, and that would be Catherine Kaminsky, just brilliant 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: with a prodigious set of academics out of the Massachusetts 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Institute of Technology. So we did stocks, we did bonds. Hey, 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: gold record I Catherine Kaminsky on gold. 51 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: Gold is I mean, it's amazing. I think the recent 52 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: rally may be attributed to the dollar being weaker and 53 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: real rates going down, but you know, really, if you 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: look at that trend, it's just you know, we should 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: just be buying gold this year. You know, it's really 56 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: it's been very strong and it's been very resilient throughout 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: the entire year. So you know, it's the one that 58 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: kind of sticks out versus other commodities that are more 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: demand focus, like energies and Metals. 60 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Katy Kaminski Alpha Simplex as well on your commute, Android Auto, 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Apple car Play. Just just amazed at the international reach 62 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: of those two and they come up with the new 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: updates and all that as well. Google and Apple on 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the commute, and of course ninety ninety one FM Washington, 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg eleven three to zero in New York, nine FM 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: in Boston as well, and then at the office the 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: distribution is YouTube. 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