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Speaker 1: And in, and in, and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cowboy Logic. My name's Kelly Megs.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Connie Megs, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Taking Donna and Donna's place this week. We got out

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Speaker 2: of jail. I'm out of prison, she's off for probation,

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Speaker 2: and we're taking over the show. What do you think

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 4: I think if you hit me with that pencil one

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Speaker 4: more time, I'll kick you in the butt. I just

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Speaker 4: want to let everybody know that I hijacked or grabbed

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Speaker 4: Donna's beaver.

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Speaker 2: You grabbed Donna's beaver?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 3: I grabbed her beaver.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: That's the same one they use every week. They're not

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Speaker 2: here with us this week because we decided we're going

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Speaker 2: to help out do the show. They're a little busy.

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Speaker 2: They've got a lot of people coming into town. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: getting out of prison. So we're doing the things we

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Speaker 2: need to do, and so we want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: And first of all, we want to thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for joining us. A lot of things have been going on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been paying attention out there,

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Speaker 2: but all the jan six guys have been getting out

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Speaker 2: of prison, and ninety nine percent of them got total

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Speaker 2: pardons because Donald Trump delivered on what he said he

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Speaker 2: was going to do, and we just really appreciate that

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Speaker 2: because Donald Trump is.

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Speaker 6: I will be the greatest president that God ever.

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Speaker 2: Created, and he is and he's doing what he said

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Speaker 2: he was going to do, and that's why we voted

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Speaker 2: for him. So, mister Trump, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: And I'd like to promote my husband's book, Fight, Fight Fight,

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Speaker 4: and I'd like you to purchase it, so we don't

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Speaker 4: fight Fight Fight.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: So how is it having your husband back since.

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Speaker 4: You've only been back a day. I don't know yet.

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Speaker 4: I haven't I seen him once in four years, but

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Speaker 4: I am actually thrilled. I feel like I have my

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Speaker 4: other half.

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Speaker 3: Of my life back. So I'm very happy. First time

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Speaker 3: I've smiled in four years, probably, And that's.

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Speaker 2: True because I'm telling you. One of the things that

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Speaker 3: I know that thought, he said, Well, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I just told her, I said, I didn't like seeing

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Speaker 2: or when I had a video visit or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: because and when you did these interviews with Donna and Donna.

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Speaker 2: I could see the stress in your face and it

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Speaker 2: hurt for me to see that. And last night we

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Speaker 2: I saw my wife smiling, and it was just it

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Speaker 2: was really pure joy for me in my heart just

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Speaker 2: to see you and I love your baby.

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Speaker 4: But he did say I didn't. He said, I didn't

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Speaker 4: look beautiful when you see me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, really that And I didn't mean to.

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Speaker 7: Say it that way, but that is what I said.

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Speaker 8: Though, yes you did.

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Speaker 2: Some of your beauty was gone because of the stress.

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Speaker 7: I could see the stress in your face.

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Speaker 2: And I said, last night I looked over and I

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Speaker 2: really important to me that feeling of dread that had

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Speaker 4: Not only me, but I see it in my children,

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Speaker 4: who you just seen my son and my daughter's home.

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Speaker 4: But my grandkids are so excited for pop Uck being home.

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Speaker 4: They haven't seen him yet. My daughter hasn't seen him yet.

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Speaker 4: Who's excited my son? I can see a difference in him.

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Speaker 4: He's so relieved that his.

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Speaker 3: Father is home.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had to take a year off of

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Speaker 3: So very proud of very.

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Speaker 2: Proud of him, Yes, very proud of all all all

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Speaker 2: just letting you know your parents loved you every day

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Speaker 2: and although sometimes they couldn't make that phone call because

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Speaker 2: were definitely on our minds constantly because there's nothing more

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Speaker 2: back together again. And as hard as that was on

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Speaker 2: all of us, is as good as it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I want to just talk about a

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Speaker 2: couple of people real quick that that are still out

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Speaker 2: other ones that are there. And then we have Jeremy Brown.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Brown is you know, very similar to one of

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Speaker 2: the guests we have come up on the show a

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Speaker 2: little bit later. He's just an American badass and he's

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Speaker 2: fought for this country his entire life, and now his

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Speaker 8: Back on him.

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Speaker 2: And they used a raid from January sixth to go

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Speaker 2: They basically framed and staged things in his house based

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Speaker 2: on information they'd received from some guy that was basically lying,

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Speaker 2: utilize this to give him state charges. So even though

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Speaker 2: prison right now. And we need to call Ron dea Santis.

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Speaker 2: We need to call the you know, Ashley Moody, everybody

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Speaker 2: Brown needs to be released immediately because everything that came

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Speaker 2: of this whole investigation into him was because of January sixth,

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Speaker 2: and although the pardon that Donald Trump issued covers everything

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna try to make this episode a little

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Speaker 4: But I do want to say the hardest part was

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Speaker 4: when me and Kelly both were in prison. I went

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Speaker 4: the phone was probably the worst nightmare for a I'm

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Speaker 4: Real American Voice is the only show that I watch.

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Speaker 4: I would not watch any I just you guys are

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Speaker 10: Hi, my name is Jeff mckello, retired Special Forces, Third Group.

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Speaker 7: Three ninety six. I'm being held against my will. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: All right, everybody, welcome back to Caboy Logic. Man oh man,

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Speaker 6: First of all, I know you enjoyed having Connie Megs

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me this morning, Don and Kenny,

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Speaker 2: Now I got to hit your beaver.

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Speaker 6: All right, Hey, we don't have any idea where this

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Speaker 8: So I think what we ought to start off with.

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Speaker 6: Did this often when we would interview you from at

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was fortunate to fall underneath the rising star

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Speaker 7: If you want me to go into more detail.

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Speaker 6: With that, well, you know special forces, so right, yeah,

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Speaker 8: Big training capacity as a contractor.

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Speaker 10: I retired from the military in twenty ten and my

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, you know, I could stand at

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Speaker 2: Were you in Benghazi when they No, I was not.

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Speaker 6: Your opinion with regard to Benghazi, because we've had Tanto.

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Speaker 8: On the show before.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's a good many.

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Speaker 6: And I know that the movie, which was an excellent

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Speaker 6: what is the real about why ben Ghazi turned out

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Speaker 10: You don't see in the movie of the actions and

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Speaker 7: And it was uncanny, to say the least. It was.

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Speaker 10: I don't even know the words to describe what they did.

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Speaker 10: But we sat in a briefing in Baghdad. Our team

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Speaker 7: That's the end.

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Speaker 8: I agree.

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Speaker 2: And I got something to add to that, yeah, that

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they were told to stand down by their chain

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Speaker 7: Of the United States, that protect the American people.

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Speaker 10: And when these men were called to do their job,

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Speaker 7: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: In my opinion, some situations oversees that, but that pales

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, Hillary, it does make a difference. It does

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Speaker 2: Greatest president that God ever created.

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Speaker 8: Larry Megs loves the pen.

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Speaker 6: But we're going to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 6: Well, and listen, we'll talk about that when we get back.

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Speaker 8: All right, Welcome back everybody to Cowboy Logic. I got

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Speaker 6: Let's talk a little bit about what and listen, Jeff's

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Speaker 8: I think he's going to be picked up.

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Speaker 6: And Kelly is blowing books out of here, like you

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Speaker 6: If you can get the other book while we're on

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Speaker 2: bothering going this time? And we just kind of decided

444
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Speaker 2: to sit this one out. And then Trump posted the

445
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Speaker 2: you know it's going to be a wild time whatever,

446
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Speaker 2: and so I put that into the chat for the

447
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Speaker 2: state of Florida. I was, I was a leader of

448
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Speaker 2: Florida Oathkeepers, and I put that out in the chat

449
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Speaker 2: and I said, look, if you guys want to go

450
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Speaker 2: do this, we'll go do this. You know, that's up

451
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Speaker 2: to you guys. And then shortly afterwards, Roger Stone contacted me.

452
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Speaker 2: It said he needed us to do some security for

453
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Speaker 2: him up there. We had done some security form in

454
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Speaker 2: the past down in Miami and Tampa area, and he

455
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Speaker 2: wanted us to come with him and just make sure

456
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Speaker 2: he was protected as he was moved to the city

457
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Speaker 2: because as you can, as you all know, several times

458
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Speaker 2: when they had these events up there, people were getting attacked.

459
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Speaker 2: So that was the initial plan for us, was we

460
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Speaker 2: were going to go to jan six and do personal

461
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Speaker 2: curity for Rogerstone, moving around a couple places, and that

462
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Speaker 2: was it. The Sunday prior to January sixth, I believe

463
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Speaker 2: it was the second or third something like that, I

464
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Speaker 2: received a phone call from a gentleman out of Orlando

465
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Speaker 2: who was working for Stop to Steal setting up some

466
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Speaker 2: of the events and stages and stuff in the area,

467
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Speaker 2: and they had asked us to move some congressional members

468
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Speaker 2: from the Ellipse down at the down at the White

469
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Speaker 2: House where the speech was occurring, and walked that group

470
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Speaker 2: of about thirty people down to the Capitol building where

471
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Speaker 2: they were going to have a stage set up and

472
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Speaker 2: we were going to do security there until the Secret

473
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Speaker 2: Service showed up when Trump would take the stage. So

474
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Speaker 2: we had some the people that were speaking there were

475
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Speaker 2: like Roger Stone, a lot of the congress manory to

476
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Speaker 2: be coming out and doing stuff like that. So they

477
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Speaker 2: had us basically doing some security work moving people from

478
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Speaker 2: the Ellipse down to the Capitol to actually do the

479
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Speaker 2: security for the stage.

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Speaker 6: Well, and all of these events that you were doing

481
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Speaker 6: security for where were permitted, Yeah, they.

482
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Speaker 2: Were permitted events. And we showed down at our.

483
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Speaker 8: We showed it.

484
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Speaker 6: We showed it in the Oathkeeper special we did. Now,

485
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 6: Jeff's not an oathkeeper. He's just a total badass, Okay.

486
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 6: And because of your career and everything that you've been

487
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: doing for decades, you've had to kind of remain apolitical

488
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 6: at least on the what you projected. Whether you have

489
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 6: conservative personal beliefs or not, you can't let that kind

490
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Speaker 6: of stuff get in the middle of or get in

491
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Speaker 6: the way of your career. But you were asked to

492
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Speaker 6: attend January.

493
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Speaker 8: Sixth by a buddy of yours. You want to get

494
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Speaker 8: into that at all.

495
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Speaker 10: Yeah, So a couple of weeks actually about a month

496
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Speaker 10: prior to J six kicking off, I had no idea

497
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Speaker 10: the rally was taking place.

498
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Speaker 7: I didn't really care. I was getting ready to.

499
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Speaker 10: Go back to work about two weeks, about a week

500
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Speaker 10: and a half, two weeks after the J six rally,

501
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Speaker 10: my buddy calls me up and he was pressing me

502
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Speaker 10: pretty hard about attending this rally.

503
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Speaker 7: I don't really care about it, you know.

504
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 10: And there's a lot of problems in the past with

505
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 10: counter protesters, Antifa and BLM showing up and these other

506
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 10: little organizations and factions that get together, skinny jeen wearing punks,

507
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 10: the uh that come there and they start they start problems, burning, looting,

508
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 10: throwing frozen water bottles, rocks, sticks, bricks, all that stuff.

509
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 10: So anyway, people get injured. And I was telling my

510
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 10: buddy about that, and he's like, hey, I need you.

511
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 10: I need you to be my right hand man. Don't

512
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 10: lay our friendship on the line. I'm like, look, man,

513
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 10: you know this is going to take place if we

514
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 10: go to this rally. It is, it is in the mix,

515
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Speaker 10: and it's.

516
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 7: Going to happen.

517
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Speaker 10: It's going to happen, and it's been proven in the

518
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Speaker 10: past and so.

519
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 7: It's uh, it's but listen anyway, so you.

520
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 6: Can you can. You can take the hat off, ladies.

521
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 6: And because here's the deal. You paid dearly for the

522
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 6: haircut that you go yeah right, they showing.

523
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: The haircut, the haircut. That's what you can get for

524
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: a honeybun and a sausage.

525
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 7: This is what a honey you.

526
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Speaker 10: Get and a sausage will get you in prison. It'll

527
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 10: get you a top quality haircut.

528
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: Such as this.

529
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that's the Honts the bart Shively, the bart

530
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 10: Shively Captain Sticky Bun's haircut Improvement Kit.

531
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Speaker 7: Can be yours for a minimal price.

532
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: And now what they do, just so you know how

533
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: they get a haircut there before you end up Jeff again,

534
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: they will take a comb and what do they do now.

535
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 8: You're being serious, right, yeah, yeah, this is what they

536
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 8: watch this.

537
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: They will take a comb and they they take a

538
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: razor blade and they weave it in and out of

539
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: the the actual bristles. Here there we go.

540
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 8: You got it.

541
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: And that's how they that's how they cut your hair.

542
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: So they'll just sit there and like chip.

543
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 7: It your hair and you're like, don't touch the neck.

544
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 7: Just watch the juggler.

545
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: And it's pretty much standard cross across prisons because yours

546
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: is five dollars and mine where we've been a bag

547
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: of ruffy, which was five.

548
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 7: Blucks, So honey bun is pretty big.

549
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 10: Anyway, getting back to the original story, the uh so

550
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 10: we got asked to go. I go, okay, man, if

551
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 10: you want me to go to this thing, I'm coming,

552
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 10: but I'm going to bring my things with me and

553
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 10: which my protective gear, goggles, helmet, body armor, and my

554
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 10: protective mask because they're going to be shooting cs and

555
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 10: they always spray people with Mason things like that.

556
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: So Antifa, that's right, that's what Antiva is doing. Antieth

557
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: and jails and tactic spray you in the face and

558
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: then try to whoop your ass because.

559
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 10: They use a thing called black blocking, where how we

560
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 10: are dressed like this and what they do is they

561
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 10: form a barrier of people all dressed the same, and

562
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 10: a instigator will come out, agitate and beat down whoever's

563
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Speaker 10: in front of them, and then drift back into the

564
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 10: crowd and they close it back up and then they

565
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 10: reappear over here, so you can't see who is doing it.

566
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 10: You'll never find them because it's called black blocking for

567
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 10: a reason.

568
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 7: Anyway.

569
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Speaker 10: So I'm like, Okay, you want me to go, I'm going.

570
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Speaker 10: I will meet you there January fifth. You want me

571
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Speaker 10: to go into theatrics about the night before or do

572
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 10: you want me to get straight up to the meeting?

573
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Speaker 8: Actually that was a little bizarre.

574
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Speaker 6: And given the fact that we've got an oathkeeper sitting

575
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Speaker 6: here with us, let's go into the uh the bar,

576
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 6: the burly guys at the bar that tried to get

577
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: you to go into driving a van on a spot.

578
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 10: So I was sitting there with my buddy at the

579
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Speaker 10: bar down in the hotel lobby right January fifth, and

580
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 10: I was just Ey's like, you know, Channing Trump, this Trump, Dad,

581
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 10: F Joe Biden, F Kamala, and you know the usual rhetoric.

582
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Uh and uh.

583
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 10: I was with a bunch of I'm not going to

584
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 10: mention the group or anything like that. But the I

585
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 10: was with a group of guys that were there, all

586
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 10: from the same element the and all of a sudden,

587
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 10: two guys step up to me and they're like.

588
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 7: Oh, Jeff, we got this. We got this dark up

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 7: we're gonna do.

590
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go into theatrics just like this guy like

591
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 10: he's trying to fool me into doing something like, you know,

592
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 10: me with a piece of candy into the back of

593
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 10: the van and.

594
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 7: He's like, we got this dark up we're going to

595
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 7: do and it's good. It's totally cool.

596
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Jeff.

597
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 10: I was like, really, wow, what kind of dark ops

598
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 10: you have? And he's like, yo, it's it's a black op.

599
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 10: It's totally secret. No one's only elite get invited to this.

600
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh really the elite.

601
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 7: Wow, thank you?

602
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 11: And I'm like, what is it.

603
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 10: By the way, He's like, we want you to drive

604
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 10: this van. You know, we're gonna go preposition this thing.

605
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 10: And it's a black op.

606
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 11: Man.

607
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: You know.

608
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, brother, two things, One you don't

609
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 10: know who I am, and two I don't know who

610
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 10: you are and you want me to drive some Scooby

611
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 10: Doo mystery machine somewhere and drop this thing off.

612
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, what is this a bait car something?

613
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 8: You know?

614
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 10: I pick up the AK forty seven in between the

615
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 10: seats and I lift it up, and you take my

616
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 10: picture and you come after me and my children later on,

617
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 10: I'm like, screw you, man, And I'm like.

618
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Speaker 6: No, thank you toldepers right, yeah, yes, it was first involved.

619
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Speaker 2: No, we're not going to recruit anybody out of a bar,

620
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: that's right, damn sure you know it was me? Wait,

621
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: remember you.

622
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: Man?

623
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 7: Yeah?

624
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 10: So uh, fast forward. Once those guys left the bar,

625
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 10: I never saw him again ever.

626
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 7: Ever.

627
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 10: I never saw any of me until they were Yeah,

628
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 10: and no, I never saw those clowns again.

629
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 8: So uh and you never saw him behind bars anyplace?

630
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 7: No, not one of those individuals.

631
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Speaker 10: Uh, we're arrested that the ever, none of them, all

632
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 10: of them. I was the only one out of the

633
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 10: entire group, including my friend. So I was the only

634
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 10: one that got arrested.

635
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 8: We're going to get into a look.

636
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: Did your friend go with you?

637
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

638
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 7: But he stayed back.

639
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, he never got he go. He stayed

640
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: way back off the cap.

641
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 7: I want to go into deeper details.

642
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 8: No, we got to go to a break.

643
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go into whatever you want to go into. Okay, right,

644
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 6: but we got to wait for the next segment.

645
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: You just don't tell them to go arrest the guy basically, No,

646
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, these are the people I want you to get. Yeah,

647
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: we want We're going to give you a list.

648
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 8: Hey, you dump in your list.

649
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 6: When when Jeff ended up going down to the Capitol,

650
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Speaker 6: I've seen footage of this and we're really running short

651
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: on time, so we will pick this up on the

652
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Speaker 6: next segment. You were, first of all, just simply amazed

653
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 6: at the size of the crowd.

654
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 8: Yes, you've never seen anything like that.

655
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Speaker 6: Then he started seeing things and I'm going to bring

656
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Speaker 6: up the word now as a tease, color Revolution, And

657
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 6: we're going to get into color Revolution because Mike Ben's

658
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: talks about this a lot. Donna and I've talked about

659
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 6: this a great deal, So we're going to go to that.

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Speaker 6: When we get back, you're watching Cowboy Logic.

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Speaker 8: All right, everybody, welcome back to Cowboy Logic.

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Speaker 6: Before we get into this segment, we need to do

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Speaker 6: a bit of a read a commercial break.

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Speaker 8: Jeff, Jeff's gonna help us out with this one.

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Speaker 7: You know, and I really gave it a lot of thought.

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00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 10: Right before January sixth, and I'm like, gosh, man, if

688
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Speaker 10: I'm going to go into this riot, I need to

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Speaker 10: smell my best. That's why before every riot, I shower

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Speaker 10: with Sugar Creek Goods, with natural lie and ornaments and

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Speaker 10: lilac scented fragrance.

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Speaker 2: You too, I can tell a riot you wonderful.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I am ready for battle. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 10: Sugar Creek Goods for making me smell fresh in every riot.

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Speaker 2: I actually showered with that last night, and I know

696
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: you did. I actually showered with this last night. Let

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Speaker 2: me tell you something this country, this bar is a

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Speaker 2: man sized bar.

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Speaker 7: You look at this.

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00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Look at the thickness of that bar. No communion way

701
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: for that. And when you're in prison, you could sell

702
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: one of these for like two honeybutons and maybe another

703
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: bag of coffee with that.

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Speaker 6: So well, when you're in prison, that's worth that's worth

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Speaker 6: bending over to pick up.

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Speaker 8: Wouldn't you say.

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00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 7: At least three honey buns? Yes?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 2: Did your prison have a sign on the shower that

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00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: said one man at a time, Yes.

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 10: But that one got scooped up really great, dude, that's

712
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 10: why we put a rope on every soap.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's what a rope? Do they have a

714
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: soap on the rope? January sixth edition.

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Speaker 7: They should know, But I.

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Speaker 6: Am going to tell you something that you guys may

717
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: not know, and that is that they've got the Sugar

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00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 6: Creek goods people have got.

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Speaker 8: There's a soap on a rope, by gosh, the Patriot Bar.

720
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Speaker 8: And here's what she did, every bar of soap.

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00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 6: All the proceeds for the Patriot Bar went back into

722
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: commissary funds and things like that for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you guys.

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00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 8: All right, let's talk.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk the dark world, the complex world, and also

726
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 6: the very much unknown world of color Revolution. Because once

727
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 6: you got down on that Lower West Terrace, and you

728
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: guys have to understand that Jeff was on the west

729
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: side of the Capitol and Kelly was on the east

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Speaker 6: side of the Capitol, and it was two very different environments. Okay,

731
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 6: the west side was really volatile, really volatile, and.

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Speaker 2: It was set up that way, I mean the way

733
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Speaker 2: they had it set up for the inauguration stage, which

734
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: was kind of strange because the inauguration stage this time

735
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: was not set up on January sixth, It had just

736
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: started being put up. But in twenty twenty. The stage

737
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Speaker 2: had already been fully constructed. It was up, ready to go.

738
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Speaker 2: I mean they saw the trailers out there with the

739
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: tools and everything that you saw in all the videos,

740
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: you know, and it created a funnel. We were coming from.

741
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Speaker 2: We came from the same side. Everybody came from the ellipse,

742
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Speaker 2: and we're walking down. But the crowd was so and

743
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: we had such a group of people with us. We

744
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: went around the entire crowd, but for individuals, they got

745
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: funneled into that tunnel area and it created And I

746
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: can't I wasn't over there, but the guys at C

747
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: two B and you and I don't know. You never

748
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: got over towards the tunnel, though, did you.

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Speaker 8: I never made it up to it.

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Speaker 7: I was on the southwest side of the terrace the

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Speaker 7: entire time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said in.

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Speaker 8: The tunnel, these things went really bad. You're like, I'm

754
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 8: out of here.

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is really wrong.

756
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Speaker 8: What's going on here?

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Speaker 10: Well, there was a lot of activity, yes, And if

758
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 10: you want, you described the elements. Much like making a cake,

759
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 10: a riot has to form up and it has to

760
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Speaker 10: have elements in order for the activity to pop off.

761
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 10: Much like the you have the instigators, agitators, and motivators.

762
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 10: Any two of those three elements will kick off violence

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Speaker 10: in any crowd no matter what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: You already had a.

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Speaker 10: Crowd of people that were already angry with the election

766
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 10: and the results. All they needed was that extra shove.

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Speaker 10: And when we spoke earlier about Antifa and blm uh,

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Speaker 10: how they dress uh in color coordination there with the

769
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Speaker 10: black or the red or the blue or whatever uniforms

770
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Speaker 10: is how they identify themselves and how they mix in

771
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Speaker 10: with each other. But this time they were dressed like

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Speaker 10: Trump supporters. They were dressed like you and me. Committee

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Speaker 10: acts of violence in Trump's name. That is called gorilla warfare,

774
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Speaker 10: not gorilla gerrilla. Captain Ron, there's a difference in you said,

775
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Speaker 10: I mentioned, you know, gerrilla.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but we're not in equatorial Africa, so it's true.

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Speaker 7: All right, So hey, but there is a difference. All right, Wait,

778
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Speaker 7: do we just sidetrack it?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 10: So I'm we're back, all right, We're back live the U.

781
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Speaker 10: But there's certain things that need to go on. You

782
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Speaker 10: want me to keep expounding. So that was about one

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Speaker 10: I was one of two hundred and fifty people that

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Speaker 10: came up on the southwest side of the terrace, and

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Speaker 10: as we were going up there, you could see the

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Speaker 10: police of vehicles moving from north to south at a

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Speaker 10: high rate of speed in front of us. And as

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Speaker 10: we got up to one street, there were people they

789
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Speaker 10: were acting odd. Man, it was odd for the way

790
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Speaker 10: these people were acting, and you don't think about it

791
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 10: until later on, but they were really dramatic about their actions,

792
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 10: rolling on the ground, screaming, yell and clawn, their eyes

793
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 10: out and their hair and stuff like that. And we

794
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 10: were watching their police cars go by, and when we

795
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Speaker 10: look down the street, you could see five or six

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Speaker 10: guys in clad black fighting literally fist fighting with the

797
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Speaker 10: MPD down the street, and you don't even hear about anything.

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Speaker 10: We're like, hey, that's not our fight. Keep going, We're

799
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Speaker 10: going to go down to protests. People were rolling on

800
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Speaker 10: the ground, They're yelling they got our leader, they got

801
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Speaker 10: our leader.

802
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Speaker 2: We need help.

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Speaker 10: Everybody this way, everybody this way. We're like, no, that's

804
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 10: not our fight, keep going down here. So fast forward,

805
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 10: we get down to the Capitol and they were rolling

806
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 10: four Capitol police down there and they were trying to

807
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Speaker 10: go and negotiate with other.

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Speaker 7: Gosh, darn.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say protesters, but yeah, protesters that

810
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 10: were down there next to the barriers. They only had

811
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Speaker 10: two barriers down there, two bicycle barriers.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 10: But the guys and once again, they were acting weird.

814
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 10: They were grabbing the bicycle barriers and they were slamming

815
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Speaker 10: them up and down. They weren't hurting anybody, they weren't

816
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 10: trying to touch anybody. They were yelling and screaming, clawing

817
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 10: their eyes and they're pulling their hair and they're rolling

818
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 10: on the ground. They're slapping the cement and they're screaming

819
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 10: and yelling. I'm like, what the hell is this guy on?

820
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Speaker 10: He looks like he's on drugs?

821
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Speaker 6: Now?

822
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Speaker 8: Is this down there where Ray Epps and Sam Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, James peace Fountain, yes, yeah, yeah, we were the Peace.

824
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Speaker 7: Found We were all that happened at one.

825
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Speaker 8: Time where the female cop got knocked down.

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Speaker 10: Yes, okay, yeah she got well. No, we were on

827
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Speaker 10: the opposite side. They were on the north end. We

828
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Speaker 10: were on the south end.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, so you got you got north, south, east, west.

830
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Speaker 2: Right, but the north end there was really nothing there right.

831
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Speaker 2: There were there were some emergency vehicles that's all.

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Speaker 10: It was up there, right, yeah, where the woman got

833
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Speaker 10: the female officer that got pushed down or knocked down

834
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Speaker 10: or whatever happened to or she was on the other

835
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Speaker 10: side of the terrace.

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Speaker 2: In us was on the west side, but she was

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Speaker 2: on the south She was on the north south side

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Speaker 2: of the terrace, right, and you were on the north

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Speaker 2: side of the terrace. I was almost sir, I was

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Speaker 2: on the south side, south side. Yeah, yeah, right ae.

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Speaker 8: So at any rate, you get up to the terrace.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, we get up there. We get up to

843
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Speaker 7: the terrace. People start flying up there. They're running up

844
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Speaker 7: the steps.

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Speaker 10: Cops are filtering down, police, capitol, police and MPD are

846
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 10: filtering down. Everybody runs past the scaffolding. They start to

847
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 10: make their way up to the capitol and they meet

848
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 10: resistance from the MPD and they start getting pushed back.

849
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Speaker 10: Now there's a wall, there's a cement, there's a brick

850
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Speaker 10: wall that's out there with the black railing that's in

851
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Speaker 10: front that the keeps the crowd back and the onlookers.

852
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Speaker 10: They got pushed back to the steps, the fences right

853
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 10: there at the base of the steps, and the steps

854
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 10: go up like this. The police stopped right there. They

855
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 10: had the opportunity at that point in time to push

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Speaker 10: everybody off, block off both north and south side of

857
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Speaker 10: the terrace, and seal that entire thing off, but they didn't.

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Speaker 10: Somebody told them to stop, and they allowed the crowd

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Speaker 10: to billow because they were coming by the hundreds and

860
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Speaker 10: there were so.

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Speaker 7: Many people there it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: And you had a handful of police officers that were

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Speaker 10: trying to stop the flow. And as the people started

864
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Speaker 10: to billow, and I mean it came down to it,

865
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Speaker 10: and yes, I was out there with my flag channing. Yeah,

866
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 10: you know, Trump Trump, and everybody was doing it because

867
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Speaker 10: the electricity was so vast and the energy was just

868
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Speaker 10: so great that everybody was.

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Speaker 2: Doing It's like one of the regular Trump rallies that

870
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Speaker 2: you go to. And I know most of you know

871
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Speaker 2: that feeling. If you weren't a January sixth, just take

872
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: that regular Trump rally you go to, you feel that

873
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: electricity and magnify it by a hundred, right, because there

874
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: was at least a million and a half too million

875
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: people at the ellipse. Yeah, at legally it was massive.

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00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: So it literally was like if someone equated it to

877
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: a lightning bolt could have gone off any second, just

878
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Speaker 2: from the energy of the crowd.

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Speaker 6: Right. Well, and I've got a lot of stuff, you know,

880
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 6: in trying to get you guys home, many of us

881
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 6: have done countless hours of watching footage, watching video footage,

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Speaker 6: seeing and watching and slowing it down. You've taught me

883
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: more than anybody about how to watch the footage. But

884
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 6: I've got still frames of you that I've collected. Yes,

885
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 6: I can tell you this. You were simply on that

886
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: lower west side. You were simply looking around in amazement

887
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 6: of what you were seeing. Yes, okay, and then all

888
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: of a sudden there became kind of a flashpoint where

889
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 6: you got concerned and we're gonna we're.

890
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 8: Gonna pick this back up when we when we come

891
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 8: back in after the break.

892
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 6: But you started getting concerned because you started having things

893
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 6: come from behind you and in front of you, and

894
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 6: that's where you started putting on some protective gear. The

895
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 6: still photos that I've got of you in the middle

896
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 6: of this massive you weren't ready for a brawl at all. No,

897
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 6: you know, you were basically you had your flag, yeah,

898
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 6: you had your stuff, and you were just basically looking

899
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 6: around going holy moldy.

900
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: But that's because the fight that we thought was going

901
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: to be happening in the streets as we walked down there. Yes,

902
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't happening.

903
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 10: No, it wasn't happening among us. It was being it

904
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 10: was it was being projected forward to the police officers.

905
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 10: They wanted it to go down. You can't see it

906
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 10: when you're there on the ground. When we started putting

907
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 10: my gear on, man, it's because we were getting hit

908
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 10: by frozen water bottles and rocks and sticks were coming

909
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 10: from behind it.

910
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 8: Hold it right there, Hold it right there. We got

911
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 8: to go to a break. Sticks and water bottles we're

912
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 8: going to pick back up.

913
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 6: Get the drums ready because we're coming in with drums

914
00:46:45,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 6: on the next segment with Cowboy Lodging. Ye so sore

915
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 6: the day.

916
00:48:02,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 8: You know, I cannot feel fa.

917
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 11: Hight.

918
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 6: Everybody you barn party drummers rock and I've actually got

919
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 6: a drummer here. Kelly Meggs is a real drummer. He

920
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 6: knows that Lirizen drummer and DM you need to contact

921
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 6: Kelly Meggs. You guys need to get a band. Jeff

922
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 6: can be the front man. He's like a hype man.

923
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Ken Harrelson on guitar.

924
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 6: Ken Harrelson on guitar. That would be a big band.

925
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 6: You know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about

926
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 6: it combo. No, I'm talking about a band.

927
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about some trombone? Can we get some trombone

928
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: in there?

929
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 6: Johnny Megs can come in and we can play twenty

930
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 6: five or six to four by Chicago.

931
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: And we got these were these these drumsticks were literally

932
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: used in a Michael Jackson concert.

933
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, thriller, very quick story behind these these drums.

934
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't even smell like a little kid or nothing.

935
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 7: Smells like Billy Jean.

936
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 6: But the story behind this, this set of drumsticks, very

937
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 6: quickly is that I was on tour in the nineties

938
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 6: with the band Cameo and they had Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffat

939
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 6: that came in and did a stint, you know, about

940
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 6: a week and a half, two weeks on the tour

941
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 6: and he came in and Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffat is the

942
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 6: drums behind the Jacksons, and these sticks he gave me

943
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 6: at the end of the tour when he left, And

944
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 6: these are from the Michael Jackson History tour. So these

945
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 6: sticks are pretty cool, are pretty cool?

946
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 8: All right. Now we're going to go from.

947
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: Uh, giving me these that's really nice for you to

948
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: do that. There, Okay, we didn't go over that.

949
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, we hadn't gone over that yet. Let's

950
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 6: get back to color revolution because this really is complex.

951
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: Color revolution is something that takes place basically when the

952
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 6: United States wants to move a society in a direction

953
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 6: that the United States government wants it to move. Normally,

954
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 6: it's on foreign ground, right, yes, okay.

955
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: And speaking of move, if you'd like to take these

956
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: soft jails, they will make you move much better. So

957
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: don't forget these wonderful patriot early.

958
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 8: Here we go with more promos, twenty five.

959
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: Milligram soft jails. I would take these, but I'm I

960
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm on probation or not. They seem

961
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: to have a little usion there. But I did not

962
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: do any drugs on this show. And I did not

963
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: have sex with that woman.

964
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 7: That's right, speaking of which, I know a man who

965
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 7: did well.

966
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 10: And with that, with every one of these signature model

967
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 10: Bill Clinton, hide a sausage surprise and you will find

968
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 10: under the desk.

969
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 13: Oh.

970
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 7: I wonder who this mystery person is and if.

971
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: You open this up. It's a cigar holder.

972
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, totally illegal.

973
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 8: You get another one?

974
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 7: Look at that?

975
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh my, they're just hidden everywhere, aren't they going?

976
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 7: Hillary?

977
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Who's that?

978
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 7: They just keep coming?

979
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 10: Oh it's my woman in yours, Nancy Pelosi. Wait a minute,

980
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 10: I've got to tighten my skin up again. Twilight got

981
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 10: this height of weird look on my captain.

982
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: Captain what's his name, mister spanky?

983
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 7: Yes, all right, let's put these things.

984
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 6: Could you give us a hell a little bit of

985
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: a handkeep this back together, and now we're gonna get

986
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 6: back to something serious. Before were forced to a commercial break,

987
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: we got stuck to do.

988
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: Oh this book right here, Hey, this has a big

989
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: import This is important to what we're talking about right now.

990
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: There's actually a chapter in this book by Robert Morrison myself.

991
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: We wrote this in Philly. Please go to Amazon, we

992
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: need help anyway. There's a chapter in here about the

993
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: build up to January sixth, the things that were being

994
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: used by both sides, whether it was our side on

995
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: the Republican side or the Democrat side. What they were

996
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: doing is we were pushing the issue of Hey, it's

997
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: going to be a huge rally.

998
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 7: We got to go there.

999
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: We gotta support Trump, support Trump because we're trying to

1000
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: steal the election. And the Democrats were telling us and

1001
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: telling everybody on their side to come because they're going

1002
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: to fight in the streets and it's going to be bad,

1003
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: and that's what the build up was. So they actually

1004
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: enticed everybody to come there with this mindset that there

1005
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: was gonna be this huge battle royal going on, and

1006
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: that's why you have if you look across the board,

1007
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the people there had on protective gear

1008
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: because the time before that, in November, one of the

1009
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: Proud Boys got stabbed by Antifa person up there and

1010
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: nearly died. So everybody was coming because we didn't want

1011
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: to leave our other fellow citizens up there in harm's way,

1012
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: and they had protective gear on. But when we went

1013
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: to trial, they used that against us. So that's just

1014
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: part of the build up that we're talking about when

1015
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: you talk about that energy and that excitement level. It

1016
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: was all built from that build up to everybody coming

1017
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: to jan six.

1018
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: But again you've got instigators, agitators and motivators that are

1019
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: amping up an amped up crowd. Anyway, people were pissed off.

1020
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 6: They'd been locked down for twelve months. They felt like

1021
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: their vote had been stolen. They couldn't go practice their religions,

1022
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 6: they couldn't work out at a gym.

1023
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: We don't like to use the word lockdown, lockdowns and.

1024
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 6: Listen on the break here, guys, gals, we were talking

1025
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 6: about getting framed up here in the frame.

1026
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't use the word frameman. Yeah, we don't

1027
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: say I have sent an.

1028
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 6: Age all of the terminology for this particular show. All right,

1029
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 6: we have almost wasted entire segment.

1030
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: No, as long as we are with this crowd, it's

1031
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: never wasted.

1032
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: This is true, Jeff, we got three minutes and fifty

1033
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 6: two seconds left in this segment. Talk about the color

1034
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 6: Revolution that you saw taking place on the ground on

1035
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 6: the Lower West Terrace between law enforcement and agitators and

1036
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 6: motivators and instigators.

1037
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 10: Right as the people were coming up, they started to

1038
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 10: expose themselves for what role they were about to play

1039
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 10: in a sense, exposed them in a metaphor.

1040
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 7: Literally that was present and yeah, that's I'm sorry. It's

1041
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 7: been a long time.

1042
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 10: So as they got up there, you started to see

1043
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 10: it that black railing, that or new being railing that

1044
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 10: was in the center out there, that was embedded in

1045
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 10: the cement. They had ripped that thing completely out of

1046
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 10: the cement right and used it as projectiles. And so

1047
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 10: I started putting my things on my protective gear because

1048
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 10: I was being hit from behind with frozen water bottles.

1049
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, what was that.

1050
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 10: And I'm like, they're throwing things, and then the sticks

1051
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 10: and stuff started fining. But you actually had and I

1052
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 10: will speak in favor of the MPD and Capitol Police,

1053
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 10: because you didn't have the violence of action from both

1054
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 10: sides until it started billowing man, and it came down

1055
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 10: to straight out self protection. And it goes into the

1056
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 10: weeds when the people started crowding forward. The crowd was

1057
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 10: so massive that they couldn't control it with who they

1058
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 10: had anymore. It became you and me protecting each other.

1059
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 10: And I watched a police officers just standing by themselves

1060
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 10: fighting it out with crowds, and people were running forward

1061
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 10: and they were trying to grab the police officers and

1062
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 10: get the bicycle racks and stuff, and they're like, hey,

1063
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 10: get back, get back, And these.

1064
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 2: Guys were just flailing. They were hitting anything that moved.

1065
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: It didn't matter if you did anything or not, you

1066
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: were getting hit.

1067
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 10: It carried down too much, right, right, you're absolutely right,

1068
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 10: And it came down to a life and death situation

1069
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 10: with a single police officer fighting for himself because you

1070
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 10: had the black blocking going on. But these people were

1071
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 10: dressed like Trump supporters and they would run forward, grab

1072
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 10: the gate, hit the police officer, and then run back

1073
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 10: into the crowd. And the police officer doesn't know anything

1074
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 10: because it's a coloration confusion. It's just a massive people

1075
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 10: screaming and throwing stuff, and he's protecting himself, so he

1076
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 10: starts beating on another person. I watched a female police

1077
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 10: officer get yanked into the crowd by her riot shield

1078
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 10: and they literally did the river dance, no pun intended

1079
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 10: on top of her and the other police officers ran

1080
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 10: into the crowd and this happened within about twenty meters

1081
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 10: of me. Started beating the crowd relentlessly, man and it

1082
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 10: caused the crowd to fire back, and the next thing,

1083
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 10: you know what, about one hundred people ran forward and

1084
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 10: it was chaotic at best.

1085
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 7: At best, you didn't know where one started.

1086
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 10: And another ended, and there was just fighting and there

1087
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 10: were skirmishes all up and down the line, and me

1088
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 10: and my buddy were standing back there. I wasn't even

1089
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 10: chanting anymore. I wasn't yelling Trump or anything. It was

1090
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 10: horrific and it was it was mesmerizing in the energy.

1091
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 10: I was sweating and it was so cold, and we

1092
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 10: were just standing there watching this, and I was watching

1093
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 10: these women get beat.

1094
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 7: Am I allowed to mention names?

1095
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 8: You got about forty five seconds and then we can

1096
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 8: continue naming.

1097
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 7: So what spurred me on into this?

1098
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 6: Man?

1099
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 10: And this went on and on for a couple hours,

1100
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 10: and we were watching it and I lost my flag.

1101
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 10: Some punk came up to me, some little skinny jean

1102
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 10: wearing sissy.

1103
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 7: Grabbed my flag and ran.

1104
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: Off with it.

1105
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 8: You know, yeah, just skipped and skipped off, hopped off.

1106
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, he's yeah, rollicking. We're all one with

1107
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 10: our universe. And I thought I saw him tight shirt.

1108
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 7: And a not.

1109
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 8: Well, speaking of tying things in a knot.

1110
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 6: When we get back from this break, everybody, we're going

1111
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 6: to talk a little bit about Jeff's eyewear that you

1112
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 6: haven't seen yet, and don't bring it out yet, Jeff,

1113
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 6: and we don't want to spoil this for everybody. Ladies,

1114
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 6: and gentlemen, Jay six coverage with two authorities.

1115
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 8: We're gonna be right back.

1116
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 13: So I just sort of got a glimpse of what

1117
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 13: was in here, and I am psyched.

1118
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: Here it is, folks.

1119
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 13: They're around my food forest Bible. Yeah yeah, baby, pull

1120
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 13: it out and see if I can get it out

1121
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 13: of the box p in between.

1122
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 12: There you go.

1123
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: Ah, love it, love it, love it.

1124
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 13: And it's autographed. Oh my gosh, how lucky can you be.

1125
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 13: I'm gonna have to order the one that's not a

1126
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 13: coffee table book so I can use it every day.

1127
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 13: This one's going on the coffee table. Love it so much,

1128
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 13: Thank you, Jovan.

1129
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 8: All right, welcome back to Cowboy Logic. Everybody.

1130
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 6: We're having a good time here with Kelly Megs and

1131
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 6: Jeff mccallup. You guys have waited the better part of

1132
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 6: three years to actually see these two guys be here.

1133
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 8: Actually, you've been waiting about three years to see these

1134
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 8: two guys.

1135
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 6: Jeff and Kelly spent the better part of two years

1136
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 6: together in the DC Goulog and it was at the

1137
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 6: absolute worst times for the Gulag. The Gulag has gotten better,

1138
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: and it's not to say that it's good, but it

1139
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: was third world country. Number of times I talked to

1140
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 6: Jeff and he was telling me that that what was

1141
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: being implemented was torture.

1142
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 8: Tactics level something.

1143
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1144
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys want to get into a little bit

1145
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 6: about the really really really really bad days of C

1146
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 6: two B and how you ended up bonding together to

1147
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 6: try to try to make.

1148
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: It through that. Well, I can say for me personally,

1149
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: I had been when they when I when they came

1150
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: in and flash banged us, and well they didn't flash

1151
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: bang us, They flash bang everybody else. But when they

1152
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: came and got us and took us in, we went

1153
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: into a county jail and it was it was an

1154
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: eighty man pod, so basically like an airplane hangar with

1155
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: forty bunks that were doubles, so eighty people were in there,

1156
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: so you're just wide open. And then when I got

1157
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: flown out to Oklahoma, I stayed in Grady County, it

1158
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: was a thirty five man pod, open bunks, no lockdowns.

1159
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: As soon as I got to DC, they threw you

1160
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: in a cell by yourself. You had no books, no radio,

1161
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: you had just the clothes they gave you when you

1162
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: walked in the door. And they slammed the cell door shut.

1163
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: I got there on a Monday night and my door

1164
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: was not opened until Friday. So for four days I

1165
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: sat in that cell with nothing to read, nothing, All

1166
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: I had was my mind and just sat there going,

1167
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: you know, literally, what the hell is going on here?

1168
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: This is crazy? And I just I was like, is

1169
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: this is what prisons like? I mean like? And I

1170
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: really think that that was what they were trying to

1171
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: enforce upon us, like this is what your life is

1172
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: going to be. And the only thing I got like

1173
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: that first week was a letter from my attorney that said,

1174
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: you're looking at thirteen years and I was just like,

1175
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: I got thirteen years of being locked in this room

1176
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: and with nothing, with no with nothing, literally the only thing.

1177
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: And I wanted to point this out because this is

1178
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: somebody we don't talk about a whole lot, and I

1179
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: don't think the show's talked about this guy very much.

1180
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: His name's Eric Munchell, and he was called a detail

1181
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: guy in DC. And the way we came in. You

1182
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: come into C two A that was a quarantine unit.

1183
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: You did two weeks over there. As soon as you

1184
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: were done, you got moved over to C two B. Well,

1185
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: they said, once you got to C two B, it

1186
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: was like the land of Milk and honey, right, I mean,

1187
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be the greatest thing ever. That's

1188
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: what we were told. But that didn't necessarily turn out

1189
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: to be true. So we were locked down in this

1190
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: unit and Eric Bunchhall had been there for months, for

1191
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: like a month or so before I got there, and

1192
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: they had asked him several times to go next door,

1193
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: go next door, and he refused because this guy had

1194
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: one ability he could order commissary that we weren't allowed

1195
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: to order. He had coffee, something we hadn't all had

1196
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: for about a month. So he started ordering extra coffee

1197
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: and he would be sliding coffee and envelopes under the

1198
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: doors so that we could have coffee. And when when

1199
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: you would leave, you could finally or a commissary. We

1200
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: would make sure that Eric got a bag of coffee

1201
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: back from us or whatever so that he could give

1202
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: it to the next guy's coming in. And I promise

1203
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: you that that wasn't happening in other places. And I

1204
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: think that that one thing you remember, Eric, right, Yeah,

1205
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: that one thing from him that one got on that

1206
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: that one little thing was like that was the start

1207
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: of your bonding process into what was going to happen

1208
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: with this group of guys. And I really felt that

1209
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: at that time, yeah.

1210
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 7: Because we were we weren't getting anything to eat at

1211
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 7: that place. Was horrible.

1212
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 10: Man, When they like you, like Kelly said, when you

1213
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 10: slammed that door on you, you come to a realization

1214
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 10: that when will this end? And when the first meal

1215
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 10: comes to you, the slot opens up, food slides in,

1216
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 10: slot closes. If you're not there to catch it, that

1217
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 10: thing will hit the floor.

1218
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

1219
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 10: And Eric Manchell, He's like, hey, man, do you get commissary.

1220
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 10: And now we were probably about four or five days

1221
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 10: into it. I'm like and I was realized. I'm like,

1222
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 10: oh my god, if this is all they give us,

1223
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 10: I'm going to get hungry.

1224
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 7: Really really fast. So I started spacing my meal.

1225
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: That's what I was doing too. I was I would

1226
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: like take a piece of bread and put it in

1227
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: the desk right so that like later that day I

1228
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: could eat a half a piece of RD or something.

1229
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 10: And Eric gave me a sausage. He got a sausage

1230
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 10: on a commentary about a couple of weeks.

1231
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 7: It doesn't I don't know any other word to describe it.

1232
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 7: He gave me this meat thing.

1233
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 10: Yeah right, And so I took this thing and I

1234
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 10: chopped it up into five different sections and I ate

1235
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 10: one section every day for five straight days until I

1236
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 10: got I'm like, hey, man, can I get it? Can

1237
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 10: I get a ramen from you? I mean, I don't

1238
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 10: have any money, I don't have anything. I'm like this,

1239
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 10: I'm like, you've got everything. I've got nothing. You know,

1240
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 10: It's like it's kind of uh discrediting to say something

1241
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 10: like that to a human being. But you I'm bagging

1242
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 10: for a pack of ram and I'm like, hey, dude,

1243
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 10: I don't know. I'll pass out, man, because they're not there.

1244
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 10: They were stealing the food off the trays down in

1245
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 10: the kitchen, so you weren't getting anything.

1246
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 8: I mean it was just crap, minimal, most of which

1247
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 8: you couldn't even addict.

1248
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it was.

1249
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 10: You got no lettuce, man, I'm like it was it

1250
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 10: was like a liquid Yeah, it was all burners liquid lettuce.

1251
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: It was like it was so roddy. Yeah, and it

1252
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: was liquid. Yeah.

1253
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 7: It was bleeding myself. I mean it went on and on.

1254
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: The uh you want to keep going.

1255
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 6: Well, there was well, yeah, you guys had some of

1256
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 6: your meals smelled like chemicals.

1257
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, cleaning products.

1258
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: Times, especially especially if we if we had figured out

1259
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: a way to and I don't want to say manipulate

1260
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: the system, because we weren't manipulating the system. We were

1261
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: utilizing the system, and we would figure out, hey, look

1262
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: we've got to file this, We've got to file this form.

1263
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: We got to file this form to get the grievance done. Well,

1264
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: sure enough, the next day, here's your food and you

1265
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: open up your thing and it's like a clorox bleachy

1266
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 2: kind of smell just hits you in the face and

1267
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: you're like, I can't I can't eat this, I can't

1268
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: eat this.

1269
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think the guy said the whole

1270
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 6: pod didn't eat that food because they all felt.

1271
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 8: Like they were being And that was later when we

1272
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 8: were in C.

1273
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 6: Now, Jeff, like myself, wears reading glasses, okay, spectacles, and

1274
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 6: Jeff's carried these along with him since his days in

1275
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 6: C two B because tell the quick story behind what

1276
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 6: happened to those glasses.

1277
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 7: I see much more clearer now now that the rain

1278
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 7: is gone. So I can I mention names of officers

1279
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: that were there or anything. Can I mention people by.

1280
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 6: Names as far as I'm concerned, but leave adjectives out?

1281
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, adjectives.

1282
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 12: No.

1283
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 10: You had Bruce, Tally, mar and Saunders completely medieval people,

1284
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 10: and you have Nick Dade that would come in with

1285
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 10: his beatdown.

1286
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 7: They said, some.

1287
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 10: This morbidly obese individual that would serve the food to

1288
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 10: us came in with these beatdown gloves on.

1289
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 7: And when we want him to we told him. We're like,

1290
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 7: why don't and he was serving the food.

1291
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 10: He's got some heat written on his knuckles. We're like, hey,

1292
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 10: why don't you put some trays? You're a food server.

1293
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 10: He did not like that at all. We got two

1294
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 10: days in the cell, food slot opens up, food slides

1295
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 10: in slot closes with pubic heritage, right so, and getting

1296
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 10: back to that whole food thing. Uh so the uh

1297
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 10: and you could think my captives and they broke my glasses.

1298
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 10: I'm like, what are you doing?

1299
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 7: She says, you beat quiet and you get back.

1300
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 10: And they stand there and they mean mug you. And

1301
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 10: they're like a pterodactyl or something or some sort of

1302
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 10: what do they call that?

1303
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: What they're looking at an animal through the door and.

1304
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 10: They're looking at you trained, yeah, and they got what

1305
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 10: they call the appendages, men that stick out and they

1306
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 10: grab things, but they're grabbing food and they put it

1307
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 10: in their mouth and it's like a crab.

1308
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 2: Cheesey cheese.

1309
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 14: It was like a crab eating a cheeseypoof and it

1310
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 14: just keeps and the mouth doesn't stop moving, and it's

1311
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 14: grabbing and and digesting and doing its process and it

1312
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 14: just never stops.

1313
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 7: I'm like, good Christ, she's.

1314
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 10: Gonna eat you if you get fans back staring back

1315
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 10: at you, mean mugging you. And they broke my glasses

1316
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 10: and I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this?

1317
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Speaker 10: And I found a rubber band next to the trash

1318
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Speaker 10: can and I've had it ever since.

1319
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: Which is contraband, by the way.

1320
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 7: With this is total contraband, because you can make it.

1321
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: You can make a weapon out of that.

1322
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 7: It could be a weapon.

1323
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: With this.

1324
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Speaker 2: You can take a paper clip and you shoot it

1325
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: at an office.

1326
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 7: You could jam it and do it and flex it

1327
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 7: and stuff and read.

1328
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 10: And we don't want you reading because reading is bad

1329
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 10: and you want to stay stupid like us, you have

1330
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 10: to watch propaganda videas and you could watch this crap

1331
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 10: on TV, just with the hands and the food and

1332
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 10: tell you guys, I want to eat and just grabbing

1333
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 10: and pulling insy never ending machine.

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Speaker 7: Man, It's like and I couldn't. The three of them

1335
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Speaker 7: got into the elevator.

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Speaker 15: I thought it was going to crash, and I was

1337
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 15: getting ready for the cabling to break and I was

1338
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 15: going to hit the roof of the elevator and then

1339
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 15: swam down when the emergency brakes came on and in

1340
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 15: psych uh, I'm having a flash.

1341
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 7: I got PTSD.

1342
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 6: That's what that is. That's what it is, Okay, until

1343
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 6: you realize that you could watch Cowboy Logic and the

1344
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 6: rest of rav on Pluto TV with the tablets, and

1345
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 6: that's when their world started to change. Ladies and gentlemen,

1346
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 6: when we get back, yeah, go buy the book on

1347
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 6: the break. Jeff, I'm sure has something he wants to sell.

1348
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 6: Maybe some BUCkies mugs.

1349
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 7: I never leave home without it.

1350
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 6: And Ron might be able to make these without trademark

1351
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Speaker 6: infringement at Cowboy Logic Laser.

1352
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Speaker 2: And don't forget the Patriots relief.

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Speaker 6: That's right, ladies and gentlemen, We're gonna be these two.

1354
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Speaker 6: We're gonna be back with these two I can't guarantee anything.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 8: All right, never a dull moment. Can you imagine what

1374
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 8: it must like be to be in this home right

1375
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 8: now with these two characters. You see what I mean,

1376
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 8: You see what I mean.

1377
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 6: There was a turning point for you guys, especially in

1378
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 6: the DC jail, when all of a sudden you started

1379
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 6: receiving mail and they were literally bringing mail into you

1380
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 6: in bags full of mail.

1381
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: Carts sometimes cold shopping carts for mail.

1382
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was at that point, ladies and gentlemen, that.

1383
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 6: Patriots that felt like they were completely isolated and alone

1384
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 6: realized they were not.

1385
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 8: And we have you all to thank for that.

1386
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 6: You are the absolute best people. Our viewers are amazing, amazing.

1387
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 6: But there were some things that you guys did, and

1388
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 6: because Kelly played a certain role in that DC jail,

1389
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 6: there were some things that could be done that were

1390
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 6: quite frankly funny as hell, and one of those involved

1391
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 6: brother Jeff mckellum. And I'm going to let you tell

1392
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 6: the story about this because I do not want to

1393
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 6: butcher this.

1394
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, just to step it back for a second. You know,

1395
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: we talked in the other segment pretty seriously about the

1396
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: situation of your going in there and you're in this

1397
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: cell for all these days and what's going to happen

1398
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: and what's going to happen and then I don't know,

1399
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: mail shows up in the middle of the night and

1400
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: you open it up, and you've been in this cell

1401
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: for thirty hours and you're not out yet, and they

1402
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 2: hand up mail in it and it comes into the

1403
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: door and it's it's an envelope, and you're like, you

1404
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: know who the heck is is? You know MYRNA flats

1405
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: and you know Wichita, and you're like, who is this person?

1406
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: You open it up and and there's a letter in there,

1407
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: and it's somebody's heart talking to you about, you know,

1408
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: appreciating the fact that that you did what you did

1409
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: and you stood up your country, and that that they

1410
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: were with us and they were praying for us, and

1411
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: that they loved us, and then just really it It

1412
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: really changed the whole outlook. And I think that that

1413
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: encouragement from all of us came from you. That we

1414
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: bonded together more because we felt that the love that

1415
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: you guys had for us, and it gave us an

1416
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to share stories and go back and forth, and

1417
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: like your mail became part of our lives. Like there

1418
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: was a lady who wrote me from Washington who had

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: all these animals, and she wrote me and I wrote

1420
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: back to her and we write back and forth, and

1421
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: she was she was. She would send me pictures of

1422
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: her animals all the time because I had a farm.

1423
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: She had a farm, you know. So we talked about

1424
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: that a little bit and this, and it turns out

1425
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: to say he was like ninety eight years old. I mean,

1426
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: just someone that took that time out of her life

1427
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 2: to write me was just it just hit me pretty hard.

1428
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: And I mean, then there's people that stuck with me,

1429
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: like Michelle Grillom from Winter Park, Orlando. I mean, that's

1430
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: somebody that's gonna be somebody I remember the rest of

1431
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: my life because she not only wrote me all the time,

1432
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: she ended up sending me books. She stayed in contact

1433
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: so much. But I guess because I was from Florida,

1434
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: so and I know she watched this show. So Michelle,

1435
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: thank you very much for everything you did for me.

1436
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 2: But you know, part of that the mail thing that

1437
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: getting into mail, I was put on detail after a

1438
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: couple of months. And this is good. I like to joke.

1439
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 2: I like to keep things light. It's like a sorry, man, you're.

1440
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 7: Getting a look.

1441
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting a look. He doesn't like this story,

1442
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: but it was too funny. So sometimes so sometimes I

1443
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: was married, and people knew that because they're like, hey,

1444
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: we're praying for you and your wife and stuff like that.

1445
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: So they kind of research you a little bit before

1446
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: they'd write you. So some of the things go guys

1447
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: in there would get mailed from these women across the country,

1448
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: and it was, uh, some lady started writing Jeff and

1449
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: it was you know, He's like, man, she's not far

1450
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: from me, and it's kind of like I would write her,

1451
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: we know this dame stuff, and there might be some

1452
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: kind of connection here. And uh, so we'd have our

1453
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: cup of coffee in the morning, Jeff come bopping down there.

1454
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: It's up, you know, what are you doing? And he'd

1455
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: sit there and talk to his people that he was

1456
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: in the cell with all those hours and followers, his

1457
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: followers in his mind, and uh we'd sit there and

1458
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: have our cup of coffee and he's like, dude, I

1459
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: think this chicks into me. There might be something here,

1460
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So we're talking to talking

1461
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 2: to you.

1462
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 8: He had written her a bunch of time, wanting to

1463
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 8: say something so badly.

1464
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 10: Right now, I've gotten so many letters for so many people,

1465
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 10: and I want to thank You've got fairy Christians out there.

1466
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 10: It brings so much levity to you in a dark cell. No,

1467
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 10: thank you so very much. Man, go ahead, man.

1468
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 16: So, so these letters are coming in and he's telling

1469
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 16: me about the slaying, and it's righting and he's right her,

1470
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 16: and it's going back and forth, and it's like it's

1471
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 16: getting pretty serious, and I'm like, I gotta have some

1472
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 16: fun with this, you know what I mean. I'm like,

1473
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 16: so I'm handing out the mail every night pretty much regularly,

1474
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 16: and I see a letter.

1475
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: And it's this lady. So I'm like, okay. I went

1476
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: my cell and I wrote down her address and everything,

1477
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: and then I gave his.

1478
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 6: Letter to that.

1479
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: I gave Jeff's letter under the door. He was locked in,

1480
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: and everything was fine. The next time we had commissary,

1481
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: I ordered an envelope and we could order that. There

1482
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 2: was women in the in the facility as well on

1483
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: the other side, so they had under the clothing section

1484
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: they had women's clothing as well. So I ordered a

1485
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: pair of five ex panties.

1486
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 8: These things were like this big okay, and I.

1487
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: Took this like a sale. So I ordered these things

1488
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: and I and I took that I got it came

1489
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: commissary came in. I had almost forgotten about it, and

1490
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: then Commissary day came and I'm going through the ladies

1491
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: counting my bag out to me, I don't know who

1492
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 2: was more embarrassed, you for me doing what I did,

1493
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: for me for trying to get the commissary lady to

1494
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 2: give me these giant panties.

1495
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 7: So he's uping it on my back.

1496
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: She's like, here's your ramen, here's your pickle, here's the sausage,

1497
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: here's your m and ms and what whatever these are.

1498
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, so I'm wondering panties.

1499
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 8: She's like, what the hell's up with these jan six guys?

1500
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 6: They were weird, man.

1501
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: So I get these panties and I got my envelope,

1502
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: and I had gotten some envelopes in from my attorneys,

1503
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: so I had some stamps and stuff. So I turned

1504
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: the hot water on, tried to get some steam going,

1505
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: and I took off the stamps that had been mailed

1506
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: in so they had the printing on them, and I really.

1507
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 8: Banged up this envelope. Made it look bad.

1508
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: Our mail would come in and they'd cut it open

1509
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: and then they would stay put. So I stuck the

1510
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: staples in there, and I made it look real. I

1511
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: shoved these panties in there, right, and I.

1512
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 8: Just wrote a little note. All of them are just

1513
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 8: part of them. Was able to get the whole panty.

1514
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: It was sticking out a little bit, so I wrote

1515
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: this whole note like I wanted you to have these

1516
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: or something, you know what I mean. So, Jeff, we

1517
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: had we were locked down for the night, right, so

1518
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: I hand out mailed. The Dude's like, hey man, you

1519
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: got down at the mail So I got to start

1520
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: handing out to mail all the seals and I'm dying

1521
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: laughing because there's only a couple of his detail guys on.

1522
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: I told him what I was doing, right, So I'm like, hey,

1523
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Man, you got some mail to your girl. And

1524
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: I slid it under the door. Now, this cell was

1525
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: kind of at the end of the block, so he

1526
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: was one of the last cells I don't mail to.

1527
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 8: So he's kind of like, all right, cool, you know.

1528
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 2: He goes over the door, grabs this package and I

1529
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: walked back down and I start stopped.

1530
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 8: What did what What happened then?

1531
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 7: So I'm like, wow, man, I got a big package.

1532
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 8: I'm like, this is nice.

1533
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 7: Man, there's so much manil heavy.

1534
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, there the normal wait for the massive envelope with

1535
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 10: something in it, and I'm like, wow, I just and

1536
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 10: I opened it up.

1537
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 7: I'm like, what the hell is this? And I'm like,

1538
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 7: cause you get some mail and I apologize. I try

1539
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 7: to write everybody back that I can't.

1540
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 10: I say out millions of the mail and I apologize

1541
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 10: if I never got to you because I broke pens pack.

1542
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: It got hard to write up till point and I was.

1543
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 10: Writing day and night anyway. So I'm like, and I

1544
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 10: give everybody their due process with their and I.

1545
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 7: Pulled this thing.

1546
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm like, what in the hill?

1547
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 10: Because I've got some letters from some people out there,

1548
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 10: some viewers, man and listeners.

1549
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 17: They're like, oh, yeah, you're the most beautiful thing I've

1550
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 17: ever seen. I can't wait till we get together. When

1551
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 17: we get out, it's going to be beautiful. I'm like,

1552
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 17: who the hell writes like this? And I'm like, pull

1553
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 17: these things out there.

1554
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm like, this.

1555
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 7: Is this individual needs some exercise asap man.

1556
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 10: And I was like and they stretched and I'm like,

1557
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 10: whoa he used them for a hammock.

1558
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 7: I was trying to pillow case out I tried all

1559
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 7: kinds of methods for it. I was, you know, maybe

1560
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 7: a towel or something like that. You know, we're an

1561
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 7: extra bedspread.

1562
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: So we're sitting down at the table. The detailed table

1563
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: is way down at the front of the block. His

1564
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: cell's way down at the end of the block.

1565
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 18: And I hear this, Holy Jesus what And I'm like,

1566
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 18: oh man, he's screaming. He's like bagging on the wall.

1567
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: Dan, that was the guy to sell next to what.

1568
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

1569
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 7: She sent me this day.

1570
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 12: Believe this.

1571
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 7: He was just like see this, Dad, this is I

1572
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 7: believe that you're going. I'm like, just wake up.

1573
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 8: What colors? What color were they?

1574
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 10: They were like a Tannis like a Tanne color, kind

1575
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 10: of a they.

1576
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 8: Call it mob mill military body.

1577
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 10: Well, you use that same color like and you know,

1578
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 10: maybe a floriddiant aspect if you're going for the tropical look.

1579
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 7: It was a feel good color, you know.

1580
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: And it was I did that because she's from California,

1581
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: So I chose that. I saw I saw the four

1582
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: tapes that he has a good job.

1583
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 6: Man.

1584
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: It's like it was it was soothing, you know, it

1585
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: made your relax, you know, so.

1586
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 7: Uh but dude, was it mob?

1587
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 8: Is mob a good color that?

1588
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 6: I think?

1589
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 10: So?

1590
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 7: It's more of a cream day coco color.

1591
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, there was no staining amongst those. We know,

1592
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: we almost mackereled them. We were gonna put some.

1593
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 10: Man, I've know we need a bio hazard waist bag,

1594
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,520
Speaker 10: so asap in cell twelve.

1595
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 8: Man, what did you end up you got a minute?

1596
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 8: What did you end up doing with them?

1597
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: I think do we throw them away?

1598
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 7: We give me somebody else. I can't remember what.

1599
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 6: We do with that.

1600
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: I know we're hanging around in the unit for a while.

1601
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody was making a joke about it. And then

1602
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 7: you had geeze vine.

1603
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 8: You know, is that what Jordan Mink had on his head?

1604
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 2: Maybe that's where it went exactly.

1605
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 7: You may not know, but I mean stuff comes up

1606
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 7: in Miami.

1607
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 8: He said it was a T shirt sleep make said

1608
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 8: it was a T shirt sleeve?

1609
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 6: Was it really?

1610
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: It actually was? You're right, it was, No, it was

1611
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: a T shirt sleeve?

1612
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 13: It was.

1613
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: It was definitely, man, it was it was epic.

1614
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 10: Good job, man, you really got me on that way

1615
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 10: or no, you had me going in your time of need. Yes,

1616
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 10: I felt the personal effect of it, you know, so ladies.

1617
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 6: And gentlemen, if you haven't figured it out by now,

1618
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 6: society has just become a better place with these two

1619
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 6: guys back in it full, unconditional pardon. Entire sentence was commuted,

1620
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 6: and we're going to do stories in the future about

1621
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 6: what we think that might be all about. We got

1622
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 6: one more segment, ladies and gentlemen. There's no telling where

1623
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 6: we're going.

1624
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Speaker 2: Hey, Cowboy Logic Nation, Elly Meggs from the DC Gigmo,

1635
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 2: thanks so much Riyer support out there.

1636
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 7: We appreciate everything you're doing.

1637
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 6: Welcome back everybody, and as you can see, we're multiplying

1638
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 6: like rabbits here but there's a very important reason why

1639
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 6: I want to bring this up, and neither one of

1640
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 6: you two guys know what I'm about to talk about here.

1641
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 6: I've had literally hundreds of conversations with these two guys

1642
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 6: while they've been locked up.

1643
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 13: And.

1644
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 8: Many of them were a lot of fun.

1645
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 6: Some of them were, especially in the case of Jeff,

1646
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 6: you know, basically fifteen minutes of letting a brother just

1647
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 6: vent so that he could go back and deal with

1648
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 6: what he was dealing with. But there were things that

1649
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 6: both of these guys said to me over the last.

1650
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 8: Three years that I can relate to.

1651
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 6: In only an understanding capacity, Like, man, I want to

1652
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 6: try to understand this, but that is being separated from

1653
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 6: their children and their families. And I'm just going to

1654
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 6: use Jeff in this example. And this was probably two

1655
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 6: years ago. Jeff and I were talking and at the

1656
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 6: end of the conversation, he gave me his children's phone numbers,

1657
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 6: and he said, please call my children and tell.

1658
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 8: Them how much I love.

1659
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 13: You.

1660
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 8: Remember that I'm welling.

1661
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: Up a big time the only time. Let me tell

1662
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: you something. I've seen this man every day for two

1663
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: almost two and a half years, and I never saw

1664
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: him cry except when he hung up the phone from

1665
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: his kids.

1666
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 6: And there were times that I had both of these

1667
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 6: guys on the phone and I knew they were crying.

1668
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if you knew I was, but I

1669
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 6: was with you. But I immediately started calling his kids

1670
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 6: and Zach, who is.

1671
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 8: Right there. You and I've had.

1672
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 6: Many, many, many many conversations as well. Davis and I

1673
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 6: have had more recently, and they're all real good recently,

1674
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 6: but Davis and I've had conversations.

1675
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 8: Page and I have had conversations.

1676
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 7: I even had.

1677
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 19: Page talking to Danielle on multi Talk Danielle Connie's We've

1678
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 19: We've had literally hundreds and hundreds of conversations with Connie.

1679
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 6: I even had my youngest son talk to Page one day,

1680
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 6: just because I wanted to be able to bring that

1681
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 6: level of a conversation down from say uncle Don to

1682
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 6: cousin Parker talking with her, and.

1683
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 11: I got to tell you the.

1684
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 6: The beauty of what we have seen today and yesterday

1685
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 6: in which these families have finally been reunited, has been amazing.

1686
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 6: And I want to give you guys the opportunity to

1687
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 6: brag on your kids here for a minute, because.

1688
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 8: Because I don't want to.

1689
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 10: I just want to emphasize that the government took took

1690
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 10: our families from us.

1691
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 7: Megs and I.

1692
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 10: We've been through a lot emotional the emotional roller coaster arrived,

1693
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 10: the proverbial ride, and you could see it in the

1694
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 10: eyes of the individuals that when we get off the

1695
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 10: phone after talking with your family, the government took it

1696
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 10: from us. They took our homes, our clothing, our cars,

1697
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 10: our children from us. Man, And that's our livelihood. And

1698
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 10: you spend every awakening moment making sure that your.

1699
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Family is okay.

1700
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 10: That's all that matters, right, and Megs and I, you know,

1701
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 10: and we're like, hey, man, how was your phone call?

1702
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 7: It was good man. I got to speak with my children.

1703
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 7: I got to do this, I got to do that.

1704
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 7: And we would drift off in solitude in.

1705
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 10: Our cell and you and you reflect on the phone

1706
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 10: call until the next until the next iteration of it. Man,

1707
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 10: and you're going through so much, almost to a cold

1708
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 10: sore point. And they stole that from us. They took

1709
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 10: our memories, they took our families, man. And now we're

1710
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 10: reunited with our kids. And the only thing you could

1711
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 10: do is they teach you in the schoolhouse is you

1712
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 10: have to reach out. You have to tell somebody anything

1713
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 10: to get your message out that hey man, we're still

1714
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 10: alive in here, man, and we're still thinking about you.

1715
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 10: Send help, send somebody for us. And we're in there

1716
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 10: for those God's forsaken people, man, that were torturing us

1717
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 10: emotionally and psychologically and physically on a daily basis. Man,

1718
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 10: and so, and it means everything to us that that

1719
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 10: we connect with what we knew best without something that

1720
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 10: was good and pure and wholesome man and godly, and

1721
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 10: these in cowboy logic brought it all in perspective, and

1722
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 10: he helped us and Donna, Donna helped us bring that

1723
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 10: all back, man. And you can't help. The body doesn't

1724
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 10: know what to do with the emotion. So it cries

1725
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 10: and it weeps. And I don't care how strong you are.

1726
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 10: You cannot hide it.

1727
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 6: Man.

1728
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 7: You will never hide it, dude.

1729
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: You can hide it all the time until you actually

1730
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: talk to him, because you can do that mental separation

1731
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: from the prisoner to the person. And I don't remember

1732
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 2: you telling me that the phone with my wife, and

1733
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone in my cade. It's like, bam,

1734
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm outside world. This is Dad again. And then as

1735
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 2: soon as I hang up that phone, I realize I

1736
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: need to wipe my eyes and I need to walk

1737
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: back through this room and men and not let them

1738
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: see the emotion. So this is my son Zach right here.

1739
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:17,839
Speaker 2: He had to come home from college and do everything.

1740
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: And then his fiance Alex is right up here just

1741
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 2: behind me, who, by the.

1742
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 6: Way, numerous conversations, especially those that I had with Connie

1743
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 6: and you, nothing they wanted more than for you to

1744
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 6: be at that wedding.

1745
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Yep, and now you will do.

1746
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 7: The good news right.

1747
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: And my daughter Danielle's at home, and our grandkids are there.

1748
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 8: Now you've got somebody following you in your footsteps.

1749
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 6: Brother.

1750
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 10: Yes, So I have my beautiful son here, Davis, who's

1751
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 10: getting ready to join the navy. I think the words handsome,

1752
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 10: and he is a good looking, strong, beautiful, wholesome Christian man.

1753
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: And any single Yes, and no he's not wait a minute.

1754
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 7: His girlfriend bren is going to take care of him

1755
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 7: when he gets back.

1756
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: Just make sure she doesn't watch the show.

1757
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 7: Right, there's nothing to see here.

1758
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 8: I didn't get that in the note. So it's okay,

1759
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 8: he's taken.

1760
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 7: So, uh, you want to tell us a little something

1761
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 7: about it, Davis, which you're getting involved with. Yeah, I've

1762
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 7: been paring, preparing for a selection course.

1763
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 20: I'm contracted to go to Cordnado and train to be

1764
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 20: a swick especially warfare, a combat and craft crewman, following

1765
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 20: my father's footsteps. I want to keep the family legacy

1766
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 20: going nice. And I gotta tell you just don't go

1767
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 20: to jail. Yeah, not that legacy. Yeah yeah, four years

1768
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 20: we need to keeep out of that.

1769
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Four years is going to be our legacy.

1770
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Speaker 6: You've raised a gentleman, not that you have it, but

1771
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 6: you raised an uber gentleman. Because I've had to threaten

1772
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 6: him to the point of having the muck stalls if

1773
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 6: he calls me mister Newan again it's.

1774
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 8: Don and we finally got him broke into that. But uh,

1775
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 8: this is the family and you need to say so.

1776
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm sorry.

1777
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 10: I didn't mean you know, go ahead, but I want

1778
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 10: to mention my daughter Page, a tall, beautiful woman. That

1779
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 10: is she couldn't be here today because she's swimming in

1780
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 10: state finals. She is a dynamic swimmer. So scholarships, where

1781
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 10: are you?

1782
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: I need you the most?

1783
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 7: So the yeah, anti Page, And I can tell you

1784
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 7: this good job.

1785
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 8: She is a perfect lady too.

1786
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 6: I've had many conversations with her, starting when she was

1787
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 6: sixteen or seventeen. I think it's been a couple of years,

1788
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 6: you know, I want to mention it's been a couple

1789
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 6: of other family You got about thirty seconds.

1790
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 2: I'll make it quick. I want to talk about our

1791
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: family inswer TV, from Tim to Scott to Cash, Kelly

1792
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: to Ryan to Jordan. We talked about him earlier, Mac, Pete, Mac,

1793
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: you know, Shane bart All, all the guys that when

1794
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: Dodo McGrew, Bobby Kenny, Ken Harroll with Jess when she

1795
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: was with us, and Guy and just I mean everybody

1796
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 2: that was with us and c two b that was

1797
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 2: you know, that's the OG and Caldwell. I mean, when

1798
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: we were at our lowest, lowest we could we could

1799
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: depend on just talking with each other and picking each

1800
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: other up, you know what I mean, nice and all right,

1801
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 2: that was crucial.

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 6: As we close the show every time, it's very important

1803
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 6: that the viewing audience know that out of the twenty

1804
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 6: voices that sang on that wonderful, most beautiful national anthem

1805
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 6: ever sung ever.

1806
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: Performed, we got two of them right here.

1807
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 6: These are two of them right here, and I am

1808
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 6: looking forward to when the date is set that we

1809
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 6: get to present you guys with your million selling record awards. Gentlemen,

1810
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 6: remove your hats, ladies and gentlemen, hands over the hearts

1811
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 6: for the most beautiful national anthem ever sung that buyer

1812
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 6: beloved Jay sixers.

1813
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 8: Thank you for trusting us with two hours of your time,

1814
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 8: especially with these two guys.

1815
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 11: Was see you next week, Oh say, conserve.

1816
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 21: What I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

1817
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Speaker 21: States of America.

1818
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 7: Who rides and riding.

1819
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Speaker 10: Roll swe.

1820
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Speaker 21: Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, one

1821
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 21: nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Speaker 10: Six