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Speaker 1: We have a lot of breaking news on the deep state.

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Speaker 1: We will be getting to an incredible new book. I

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Speaker 1: can't put it down, so well written and a great,

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Speaker 1: great accompanying book to say, Jeanine Pierro's book and Greg

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Speaker 1: Jared's book. It's written by our friend Andy McCarthy. It's

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Speaker 1: called Bowl of Collusion, the plot to rig an election,

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Speaker 1: destroy a presidency. We have that on top of the

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Speaker 1: new Judicial Watch release from yesterday providing the Bruce Or

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Speaker 1: providing the FBI with research that we now know according

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Speaker 1: to FBI's own spreadsheet later in the process debunking almost

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent well into the ninety plus range the

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Speaker 1: Steel dossier. But anyway, we now know that Bruce Or

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Speaker 1: Nellie was doing on behalf of Fusion GPS that was

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Speaker 1: being paid ultimately by the Clinton's in the DNC. Wow.

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Speaker 1: The Justice Department recently providing some of these documents to

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Speaker 1: Judicial Watch will update you on all of this. One

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Speaker 1: of the documents is that spreadsheets. You know, you think

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Speaker 1: the story of the Russian hookers urinating in the bed

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Speaker 1: was a fabricated, bad enough story, but they basically identified

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Speaker 1: every horrible Russian citizen that it was alive individuals, and

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Speaker 1: they made up links to Donald Trump, just totally out

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Speaker 1: of whole cloth, with no evidence whatsoever. NELLI York keeping

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Speaker 1: tabs on dozens and dozens of Trump associates. But we're

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Speaker 1: now moving into the area that we described with John

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Speaker 1: to be at least three major releases. I believe probably

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Speaker 1: Coomy report, which we already know about, with more detail

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Speaker 1: where they believe that he was lying or being less

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Speaker 1: Comey's home one month after he was fired. For other people,

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Speaker 1: you would think they would get indicted, but I'm told

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Speaker 1: we'll wait and see that there's a lot of other

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Speaker 1: issues that will impact James Comey's life. He should have

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Speaker 1: taken my advice a long time ago, and that he

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Speaker 1: And it all starts with the investigation or frankly, the

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Speaker 1: exoneration of a guilty party, where evidence is so overwhelming

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Speaker 1: in this behavior should have been indicted. That's why we

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Speaker 1: discussed at length exonerating or beginning the writing of the

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Speaker 1: exoneration of Hillary Clinton in May of twenty sixteen, when

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Speaker 1: in fact they hadn't interviewed her or any of the

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Speaker 1: other witnesses, even using the term gross negligence, which is

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Speaker 1: the legal standard in the exact statute which would have

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Speaker 1: extreme carelessness as a means of protecting her. That's a

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Speaker 1: to the FBI, And the person doing the interrogating is

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Speaker 1: Calling Donald Trump every name of the book, the same

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck referring to Trump voters that he can smell

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Speaker 1: Walmart people. So the smelly Walmart guy is interrogating the irredeemable,

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Speaker 1: This anomaly, specifically, what they discovered was an email address

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Speaker 1: fascinating about Andy McCarthy's book is the following, and we'll

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Speaker 1: the top of the next Now with the ball of Collusion,

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Speaker 1: he's claiming the Obama administration quote put the law enforcement

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Speaker 1: It's totally it's a total pain in the you know,

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Speaker 1: rear end, and you gotta get in the buses, and

428
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Speaker 1: you know, you have all the guys that do and

429
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Speaker 1: they're great people. I don't love the people behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: The people that I work with now behind the scenes

431
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Speaker 1: when we're on the road have all been with me

432
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Speaker 1: almost the entire time I've been a Fox. They were

433
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Speaker 1: all family. And by the way, how epic are our dinners?

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Speaker 1: Because at the end of every road trip I throw

435
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Speaker 1: a Hannity dinner, Right, I prefer not to talk about

436
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Speaker 1: that dinner and I when I just tell the story,

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Speaker 1: what we You got to admit some of these dinners

438
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Speaker 1: have been epic. You know why I don't want to everything,

439
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Speaker 1: but why you didn't go? Because there, Yeah, I didn't go.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I was like the highlight of the dinner, Okay,

441
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Speaker 1: I was the funniest person there. Second of all people

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Speaker 1: a baby I did not know. Well, I had one

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Speaker 1: bite there. One of these staples is reindeer in Helsinki,

444
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Speaker 1: it was it's a stable Rudolph. Well there's a reindeer,

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Speaker 1: is what? And they were reindeer tata, you know, raw reindeer.

446
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, I'm I'm kind of grossed out

447
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Speaker 1: by it. But everybody people wanted to try it. They

448
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: tried it. We ran into other scene in people there.

449
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Speaker 1: So we're on this bus and fake news a constas

450
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Speaker 1: like Hannity didn't have the guts to confront me face

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Speaker 1: to face and tell me what he really thinks of

452
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Speaker 1: me in the face. Well was I supposed to if

453
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Speaker 1: I did notice him and I didn't he noticed me.

454
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Speaker 1: He had every opportunity to come up to me. And

455
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something You're not gonna get to

456
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Speaker 1: me or provoke me into a fight unless you put

457
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Speaker 1: your hands on me, then you'll regret it. I'm not

458
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Speaker 1: gonna be provoked in a public fight with anybody. And

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Speaker 1: so what am I supposed to do? Walk to the

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Speaker 1: back of the bus and say your fake news? Acosta,

461
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Speaker 1: You're a liar, liar, pants on fire, and a conspiracy theorist.

462
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look like an idiot. No, anything I have

463
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Speaker 1: to say I say on my TV or radio show.

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Speaker 1: I'm available. He could have asked me about it when

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Speaker 1: he saw me. He didn't. And if he did see

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Speaker 1: me and say, too bad, what do you want? What

467
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Speaker 1: do you want me to tell you? I don't like

468
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Speaker 1: your phony reporting. Um. Anyway, we saw other people there,

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Speaker 1: I guess from CNN. They actually turned out to be

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Speaker 1: pretty nice. I like them, right am. I not cordial

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Speaker 1: to everybody when I'm out, whether they work at another network,

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Speaker 1: I'm always called cordial to them. Yeah, you're very nice.

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Speaker 1: You're very very nice. I wasn't very nice, but you

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Speaker 1: were very nice. Oh did you say something to him?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know? Did you? You're the one that

476
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Speaker 1: was you and Haraldo? I can't take anywhere. You guys

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Speaker 1: will start a fight, We'll start a fighting. You can

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Speaker 1: start to fight, I'll finish it. Nah. You know who's

479
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna finish fights if they ever get started? Yeah, huh.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Elizabeth Warren now in a statistical tie in

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Speaker 1: a new national poll that has come out. I think

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Speaker 1: where we're headed is everybody's concluding that Joe doesn't have it.

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Speaker 1: That if the idea is that that he has to

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Speaker 1: hide because he's a gaff a second, then and he

485
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Speaker 1: doesn't have a fastball that you know, Axelrod's probably right.

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Speaker 1: He can either cut it or he can't cut it.

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Speaker 1: So that means now they're moving on. You could see

488
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Speaker 1: a slow drain, and it now moves in Elizabeth Warren's direction,

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Speaker 1: not Kamala Harris. I think Kamala Harris really hurt herself

490
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Speaker 1: both in the last debate. She's also hurt herself going

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Speaker 1: so hard squad Alexandria Cossio Cortez left and squad left

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Speaker 1: that I'm not sure she can recover no private insurance,

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Speaker 1: medicare for all, the extreme green New Deal, etc. It

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Speaker 1: is um I think it's now becoming inevitable, that it's

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Speaker 1: probably now moving towards Warren. Maybe Kamala and another tier

496
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Speaker 1: Bernie's is still up there, and watch for maybe Mayor Pete.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, mayor Pete. Please. The guy can't even

498
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Speaker 1: govern South Bend, Indiana. We've we've sent our cameras there.

499
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Speaker 1: It's a disaster. We've gone over his record. He can't

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Speaker 1: even manage that. How are we? How are we? Is

501
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Speaker 1: he going to manage a country if he can't manage it? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was sad to see the people that were cordoned

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Speaker 1: off in Philly last night too. H'n go back to that.

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Speaker 1: You know this KYW reporter Alexandria Hoff saying that you

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Speaker 1: know she was harassed during a live shot watching a

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Speaker 1: crowd of people taunt police officers, laughing, yelling at them.

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Speaker 1: She did point out ninety eight percent of the people

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Speaker 1: were respectful and concerned, but there was that two percent,

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Speaker 1: which sadly is always the case. Kamala Harris is there

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Speaker 1: on TV now, we're watching the breaking news CNN. Fake

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Speaker 1: News first reports that at about five sixteen she's on

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Speaker 1: the wolf Blitzer Extravaganza, and she then turns it into well,

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Speaker 1: my policies are in places not going to happen. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't even know a single thing about

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Speaker 1: the incident. And then that's followed up by you know,

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Speaker 1: other people like let's see, oh yeah, Kirsten Jella Brand

517
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Speaker 1: and other panids. It's an ongoing situation. They know nothing.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we do have an upstated, an update

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Speaker 1: in the Epstein case. Autopsy broken bones usually more associated

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Speaker 1: with strangulation. I'm not speculating at all. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear what doctor Boden has to say. He was there

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Speaker 1: inside it, when he can talk this painting inside of

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Speaker 1: his house of Bill Clinton in a blue dress and

524
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Speaker 1: red high heels. That is so creepy. That is so weird,

525
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: strange and bizarre. What the heck is that all about?

526
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Speaker 1: It looks like that every Democrat Now, I was praying

527
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Speaker 1: for a recession with Bill Maher and you see a

528
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Speaker 1: lot of people worry. Look, there's an even flow of

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Speaker 1: the economy. But you can't deny the massive, incredible economic

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Speaker 1: growth we've had and the success. All right, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: nine four one Sean Andy McCarthy, Well he has he

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Speaker 1: takes this right into Obama's oval office, this whole you know,

533
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Speaker 1: Russia Gate, deep state, abuse of power, corruption and counterintelligence investigation.

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Speaker 1: He says that has to come from her president. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that. You are looking for Nellie Or's research,

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Speaker 1: the wife of Bruce Or. Tell me what you're looking for,

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Speaker 1: a congressman, Well, remember Nellie Or part of the Fusion

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Speaker 1: GPS team looking at that opposition research, a lot of

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Speaker 1: which would you know, We've say, we're shared with the FBI,

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Speaker 1: but also with the Diffusion GPS, and that's the infamous doscia.

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Speaker 1: When she came before the committee last year before the

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Speaker 1: Democrats took over, she gave indications she was willing to

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Speaker 1: share that information. Well, we're now going into you know,

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Speaker 1: a must nine months since then and she's not shared

545
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Speaker 1: and her attorneys have been very vague about hearing this information.

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Speaker 1: What she did was not only investigate the president, she

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Speaker 1: looked at her his family, and the Milanne, the first lady.

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Speaker 1: These are just saying, you know, there's been too much

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Speaker 1: secrecy among this little corrupt cabal. They've had their time

550
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: of being in the background. It's time for their information

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Speaker 1: to come out and for the American people to realize

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Speaker 1: that there was a problem at the FBI. There was

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Speaker 1: a problem that we see going forward that it's going

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Speaker 1: to go forward not only in the Durham investigations, but

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Speaker 1: also the Horowitz investigations into FIVEES abuse, which we expect

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Speaker 1: that report later this fall as well. You said you

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Speaker 1: did not personally receive documents from mister Or, but the

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Speaker 1: FBI did, is actually correct. And you also said the

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Speaker 1: FBI got documents from a different source than mid September,

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Speaker 1: different source than whom, different source from mister Or. It

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Speaker 1: was not mister Or who provided the initial documents that

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Speaker 1: I became aware of in mid September. So mister Or

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Speaker 1: did not hand you the docier. That's mister Or didn't

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Speaker 1: hand me anything. Mister Or provided information to the FBI

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Speaker 1: that included material that is what everybody's calling the dossier.

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Speaker 1: Again that since again mister provide what he provided some

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Speaker 1: elements of reporting that my understanding is originated from mister Steele.

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Speaker 1: So Bruce Or did give the FBI information relative to

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Speaker 1: the dossier. Yes, it's my understanding that everything that Bruce

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Speaker 1: Or did was approved and known to senior Department Justice

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Speaker 1: officials coordinated close with the FBI. So I think this

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Speaker 1: is something that you know, we'll have to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: I don't know all the facts here, but I think

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Speaker 1: some of the facts that are being purported by some

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Speaker 1: members of Congress may not in fact be the actual facts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody we really can trust. That last voice you

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Speaker 1: heard is former CIA director Brennan. Glad you with us

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Speaker 1: our two eight hundred and nine for one Shawn Tolfrey

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Speaker 1: telephone number. You know, Brennan, everything bruce Or did was

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Speaker 1: approved by senior DOJ officials coordinated with the FBI. Well,

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Speaker 1: we do know. In August of twenty sixteen, it was

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Speaker 1: bruce Or that was warning everybody that, yeah, the dossier

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Speaker 1: was not verified. Was Clinton Boughton paid for? And Steele

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Speaker 1: had an agenda that those warnings went out again from

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Cavalac to the FBI DOJ officials at the time

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Speaker 1: prior to that, we're listening to Peter Struct's answer how

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Speaker 1: Bruce Or provided documents to the FBI that included parts

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Speaker 1: of the Steele dossier, Doug Collins saying, we're looking for

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Speaker 1: documents from Nellie Or, and then we have, thanks to

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Speaker 1: Judicial Watch, a trove of these new documents exposing how SENIORDJ,

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Speaker 1: FBI private contractors targeted Donald Trump, then Canada Trump, then

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Speaker 1: President elect Trump and then President Trump. And how Nellie

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Speaker 1: or herself, Remember she was doing the op research even

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Speaker 1: on Trump's family, but all these Russia connections now was

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Speaker 1: coming directly to Bruce Or from her. Judicial Watch gives

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Speaker 1: three hundred thirty three, three thirty pages of documents showing

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Speaker 1: or member he was at one point the fourth highest

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Speaker 1: guy at the Department of Justice, obviously demoted a couple

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Speaker 1: of times discussing the information all obtained through his wife

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Speaker 1: Nellie or Who's being paid really by Clinton with funneled

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Speaker 1: money through Fusion GPS, and or emailing himself an Excel

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Speaker 1: spreadsheet seemingly from his wife, which has the title Who's

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Speaker 1: Who nineteen September twenty sixteen, purports to show all these

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Speaker 1: relationships and linkages between Trump, his family, criminal figures, many

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Speaker 1: whom are Russian. Now later we would discover that the

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Speaker 1: FBI put their own spreadsheet together debunking over nineties percent

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Speaker 1: of these lies, and Bruce Or providing the FBI research

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Speaker 1: that his wife Nellie is being paid for ultimately by Clinton.

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Speaker 1: In the DNC, Andy McCarthy is with us. He has

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Speaker 1: a brand new book out he's a columnist for National

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Speaker 1: Review of Fox News contributor in this new book, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it is entitled Ball of Collusion, The

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Speaker 1: to Rig an election and Destroy a Presidency, It was

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Speaker 1: just released. He actually brings this up higher than anybody

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Speaker 1: else has, right into the oval office of Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: and what he views as a counterintelligence effort that Obama

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Speaker 1: was involved in it and aware of, designed to take

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Speaker 1: down President Trump and help Hillary Clinton. Andy McCarthy, welcome back, Sean.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you. Thanks for having me. Why

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Speaker 1: don't I just let you go into the whole premise

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Speaker 1: here behind this, because I have asked many times, well,

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Speaker 1: what did Obama know about all this? And when did

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Speaker 1: he know it? Same with Biden. Yeah, Sean, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the years we've now spent talking about this, I

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Speaker 1: feel sometimes that when I try to make this distinction

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Speaker 1: between counterintelligence investigations and criminal investigations, I pity people who

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Speaker 1: have to listen to me drone on about this because

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Speaker 1: it can make your eyes glaze over. But it really

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Speaker 1: is an important difference in it, and it really hits

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Speaker 1: the point that you are raising. Criminal investigations are done

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Speaker 1: for the purpose of building prosecutable cases for court, because

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Speaker 1: criminal prosecution is the vindication of the rule of law

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Speaker 1: in court proceedings, and we don't want politics to enter

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Speaker 1: into it. But counterintelligence investigations are different in kind because

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Speaker 1: they're done exclusively for the president. They're not done for

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Speaker 1: the purposes of building prosecutable cases. The only reason we

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Speaker 1: have a counterintelligence mission, which the FBI handles domestically and

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Speaker 1: the CIA and the NSA and other agencies handle on

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Speaker 1: the foreign end. The only reason we have counterintelligence is

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Speaker 1: in order to supply the president with information so that

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Speaker 1: he can carry out his constitutional obligations to protect the

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Speaker 1: United States from potential foreign threats to our interests. So

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Speaker 1: if you're going to do something by counterintelligence, it's my

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Speaker 1: nature being done for the president. It's the kind of

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Speaker 1: information that, for example, ends up in the president's daily

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Speaker 1: briefing every day. But here, in addition to the fact

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Speaker 1: that it's counterintelligence and therefore it's being done for the

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Speaker 1: president anyway, we have a number of indications that the

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Speaker 1: President Obama did indeed know what was happening in real

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Speaker 1: time as it was happening. They've said again and again

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Speaker 1: that they were aware of what Russia was trying to

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Speaker 1: do to interfere with the election in real time. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of the big things I

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Speaker 1: try to highlighten the book is this January fifth, twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen meeting in the Oval Office where the main topic

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Speaker 1: of discussion on the day before there's going a brief

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Speaker 1: President elect Trump on Russia's interference in the election, is

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Speaker 1: what information should be withheld from the incoming Trump team

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Speaker 1: regarding Russia. So it's clear that Obama, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: clear from the acts that he was involved in this,

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Speaker 1: and it's clear from the way they structured it that

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Speaker 1: he was involved in it. You know, now the President

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Speaker 1: said earlier today he agrees with this contention in your book.

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Speaker 1: How would it be possible that Obama doesn't know? President said,

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Speaker 1: it's a very serious situation, tweeting about this can never

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Speaker 1: be allowed to happen again. Drain the swamp. But in

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Speaker 1: this ball a collusion. Now, what does it mean if

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Speaker 1: the whole counterintelligence in Russia hoax narrative that Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: was involved and they get go, what does that mean

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Speaker 1: for him? What does it mean for Biden? With all

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Speaker 1: the talk about okay, impeaching Trump and getting Trump to

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Speaker 1: answer questions. It sounds to me like they're an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of questions Barack Obama now has to answer for. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think there, yes, I think that's right, and I

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Speaker 1: think he should have been had to answer them all along.

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing that could not have

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Speaker 1: happened unless he was aware of it and greenlighted it.

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Speaker 1: And Sean, just to turn it around, what do you

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Speaker 1: think the media and the Democrats would say if it

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Speaker 1: turned out that the FBI currently was doing counterintelligence investigations

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Speaker 1: and President Trump was unaware of them. They would make

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Speaker 1: that into the biggest case that Trump was incompetent that

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Speaker 1: you could imagine. And that's exactly what they would say,

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Speaker 1: these intelligence operations are done so that the president can

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Speaker 1: do his job, so of course they're involved in them.

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Speaker 1: But how much it's going to have consequences for Obama

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Speaker 1: and Biden, how much they're going to be pressed on

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Speaker 1: this really depends on how much of an impression what

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Speaker 1: happened here made makes on the country. I like you

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Speaker 1: happen to think it's a big deal when the incumbent

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Speaker 1: administration exploits the counterintelligence and law enforcement apparatus of the

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Speaker 1: government in a political campaign against the opposition candidate. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty big scandal. So the rest of the

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Speaker 1: country doesn't seem to see it the way we see it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the rest of the country has

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Speaker 1: been aware. The rest of the country has been fed

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Speaker 1: by a mob mentality and a media only one part

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Speaker 1: of the story, in the main story, in the narrative,

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Speaker 1: and where we actually have real evidence, real Russia collusion,

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Speaker 1: a really rigged investigation, a real abuse of power, the

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Speaker 1: real intelligence, the powerful tools of intelligence turned on the

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Speaker 1: American people. You know that's all going to be proven real.

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Speaker 1: John Solomon's on for an hour yesterday, Andy, and you

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Speaker 1: know we have a slight disagreement. We know we're going

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Speaker 1: to have the Horowitz report on Komi, which we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about, likely today, tonight, or soon. And we know

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Speaker 1: that we that there was a referral for potential prosecution

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Speaker 1: in that case, and he also showed a lack of candor.

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Speaker 1: He had those documents that were classified in his house

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Speaker 1: that FBI agents retrieved a month after he was fired.

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Speaker 1: That would be one investigation then of course the Pies investigation,

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Speaker 1: after multiple warnings, we know there was premeditated fraud committed

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Speaker 1: on a FISA court on four separate occasions. Those warrants

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Speaker 1: were signed, and everybody had been warned that the bulk

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Speaker 1: of information used in the application is unfair to unverifiabowl.

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Speaker 1: We now know ninety plus percent of it to be

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Speaker 1: outright lies. Come signed three of them. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: they were warned by Bruce Or and Kathleen Cavalk that

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Speaker 1: Steel had an agenda Hillary paid for it that was

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Speaker 1: not brought to the attention to these judges in any

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Speaker 1: fashion that it should have been brought to their attention.

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Speaker 1: Is that a crime premeditated fraud to obtain a warrant

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Speaker 1: to spy in an opposition party candidate than a transition

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Speaker 1: team than a president? Sean, I think it's a profound

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Speaker 1: We've done this before, I know, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: a profound abusive power. To my mind, an abusive in

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Speaker 1: many ways is a lot more important than whether it

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Speaker 1: happens to violate a provision to Title eighteen. I think

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Speaker 1: these fraud cases are very hard to make beyond a

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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt when you're dealing with people who have a

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Speaker 1: lot of ability under the law to exercise discretion. Whether

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Speaker 1: they've abused their discretion is a lot easier to prove,

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Speaker 1: and to me, it's a lot more consequential. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think whether it's a crime or it's not a crime,

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Speaker 1: it's still an abusive power and people have to be

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Speaker 1: held to account for it. Yeah, okay, So do you

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Speaker 1: see crimes? Do you see what I see that there

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Speaker 1: was a rigged investigation in the Hillary case to protect

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Speaker 1: her when the evidence was overwhelming and incontrovertible in the

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Speaker 1: Espionage Act and the destruction of evidence subpoena at emails

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Speaker 1: and the bleach bit and the Hammers. Do you see

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Speaker 1: that there was a premeditated fraud on a FISA court

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Speaker 1: and there are two separate Well, John thinks there's going

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Speaker 1: to be another report that would deal with the leaking

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Speaker 1: of class off item from by Horowitz, and I see

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Speaker 1: something deeper emerging, and that would be maybe a bar

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Speaker 1: Dorham or a Dirham report or something thereof that will

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Speaker 1: have exposure of those people that outsourced intelligence gathering to

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Speaker 1: spy on American citizens, using our Western allies to do

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Speaker 1: it all in an attempt to circumvent American laws, which

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Speaker 1: I think would be the biggest abusive power part of

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Speaker 1: this of all. Yeah, look, if that stuff gets proved,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. And the reason I will, will

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Speaker 1: you say, get proved, don't. Don't you think book about

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Speaker 1: this is because I think it's pretty important, and I

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Speaker 1: do think it's a pretty spectacular abusive power. You'd have

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Speaker 1: to parse out the different things you said. The one

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Speaker 1: that really grabs your attention, I think is the fraud

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Speaker 1: on the pies a chord because if they made knowing

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Speaker 1: misrepresentations to the phiz a chord, then people want to

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Speaker 1: hang over that, and that is a crime. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: lying to a chord as a crime. So if they

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Speaker 1: if if I lied to a court, to the court, yes,

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Speaker 1: if I committed a fraud on a court, when I

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Speaker 1: go to jail, Andy McCarthy, if I was prosecuting you,

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Speaker 1: you would And if I showed a lack of candor,

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Speaker 1: I would be treated like Papadopoulos, Manafort, and Cone. But

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Speaker 1: not the way Comey and Clinton are being treated. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, lack of candor was the reason

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Speaker 1: they bounced McKay bat of the FBI. Right, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's a closed chapter. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: think you know they're going to wait till they finish

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Speaker 1: all of these investigations, and then they're going to decide

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Speaker 1: what is the proof of false statements that they have,

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Speaker 1: And at that point, I think they'll make an evaluation

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Speaker 1: about whether proceed criminal or not. All right, stay right there.

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Speaker 1: A great book just out today. We are featuring it

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Speaker 1: on Hannity dot com. It's on Amazon dot COM's and

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Speaker 1: bookstores everywhere now. It's called Ball of Collusion, The Plot

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Speaker 1: to Rig an Election and Destroy Your Presidency. Very well researched,

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Speaker 1: a lot of details, things that I had long forgotten

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Speaker 1: that are very pertinent to this abuse of power corruption scandal.

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Speaker 1: Time here not enough to be fair to our friend

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy. We're gonna hold him over to the other side.

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Speaker 1: This book is too important, it's too detailed, it's too

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Speaker 1: well written, and there is too much knowledge in that

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Speaker 1: brain of Andy McCarthy. Still just let him go just yet.

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Speaker 1: The new book is called Ball of Collusion, The Plot

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Speaker 1: to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency, and extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: well written, well researched, and I think gives us a

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Speaker 1: really clear eyed prosecutor vantage point view into the what

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Speaker 1: is the biggest abuse of power of corruption scandal in history.

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Speaker 1: So we'll come back on the other side more with

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy. We'll love a lot more on all of

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Speaker 1: this tonight at nine Hannity on the Fox News Channel.

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Speaker 1: We'll also get to your calls in the next half hour.

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Speaker 1: You can give us a ring now eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety four one sewn if you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue.

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Speaker 1: Andy stays with us on the other side of this break.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Andy McCarthy stays with us. He just released

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Speaker 1: a brand new book. It's called Ball of Collusion. It's

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily well researched, a lot of facts. It gives us

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Speaker 1: a lot of insight into where this corruption abuse of

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Speaker 1: power investigation by the Attorney General Durham Horowitz is now headed,

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Speaker 1: the plot to rig an election and destroyer presidency. It's

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Speaker 1: up on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to go through this one by one.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with me that the evidence well as

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Speaker 1: outlined by James Comi himself On July fifth, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton violated the Espionage Act on numerous occasions,

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Speaker 1: certain subsections of that Act all felonies, and that if

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Speaker 1: anybody listening to this program had subpoena at emails and

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Speaker 1: they deleted them, they used bleach bit to clean out

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Speaker 1: their hard drive, they had an aid bust up devices

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Speaker 1: with hammers and took out simcards, that those that most

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Speaker 1: Americans probably would have been charged with the underlying crime,

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Speaker 1: and then obstruction. Do you agree with that part, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I not only agree with it, I would have looked

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Speaker 1: at the case as an intentional mishandling of classified information,

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Speaker 1: and my fallback position would have been gross negligence. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have looked at it as a gross negligence case

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Speaker 1: because I think she systematically set up this communications network

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Speaker 1: in a way where she had to know that classified

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Speaker 1: information was going to pour through it. Okay, So that

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Speaker 1: would be basically some very powerful people, including the person

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Speaker 1: that interviewed Hillary Clinton, Peter Struck, who had said that

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Speaker 1: she should beat Donald Trump one hundred million to zero

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Speaker 1: and referred to Trump voters as smelly Walmart people. That

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Speaker 1: would mean James Coma, you, obviously we now know, had

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Speaker 1: a huge bias against Trump and lied on numerous occasions.

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Speaker 1: That would mean they saved the Democratic presidential candidate from

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Speaker 1: what would be certain crimes, prosecution of crimes to allow

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Speaker 1: her to be the favored candidate in the upcoming presidential race.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty profound abuse a power to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I say, Sean that Obama in April of twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: in the interview with Chris Wallace, publicly made it known

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Speaker 1: that he didn't want Missus Clinton charged. And I think

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Speaker 1: once Obama made that clear, the rest is details. And yes,

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Speaker 1: all these other people were involved in it. They're out front,

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Speaker 1: they're easy to see. But once Obama had to say

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Speaker 1: what he had to say, there was no way the

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Speaker 1: Obama Justice Department was ever going to prosecute Missus Clinton. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now the next part of this is, in all your

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Speaker 1: years as a prosecutor, now we know the exoneration for Hillary.

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Speaker 1: They began writing it in May of twenty sixteen. We

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Speaker 1: know that the legal definition gross negligence was removed and

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Speaker 1: extreme carelessness replaced it, I believe by design and on purpose.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever recall a situation where people that had

851
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Speaker 1: been granted certain immunities, involving the very same case when

852
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: the FBI, as biased as Peter was, against Trump and

853
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: for Hillary, who should win one hundred million zero. When

854
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Speaker 1: they finally get around July second, twenty sixteen, the interviewing Hillary,

855
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: she was allowed two of her aids, including Cheryl Mills,

856
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: to be in the room to help her. Do you

857
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: ever hear of that happening during an interrogation or an

858
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Speaker 1: investigation in the FBI that other people, friends involved in it,

859
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Speaker 1: witnesses involved in it, are allowed to sit there while

860
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Speaker 1: the interrogation goes forward. I've never heard of that. No.

861
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Speaker 1: In fact, Sean, it's not only against common sense and

862
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Speaker 1: normal FBI in Justice Department practice, I've argued that that

863
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Speaker 1: was against the law because Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson,

864
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Speaker 1: those are the names I remember with the top of

865
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Speaker 1: my head. It was Heather Samuelson. Yeah, Yeah, they had

866
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Speaker 1: been government officials, and as a result, they're not supposed

867
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Speaker 1: to participate in the advocacy for somebody else in connection

868
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Speaker 1: with something that they represented the or acted on behalf

869
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Speaker 1: of the government. You know, they're a statue conflict of

870
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Speaker 1: interest statutes that make that forbidden. But even if those

871
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: statutes didn't exist. You would never let somebody who was

872
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Speaker 1: a witness to the very transaction that's under investigation sit

873
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Speaker 1: there while you interviewed the main principle, and you certainly

874
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't do an under circumstances where all right, you know,

875
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: you're letting them beat lawyers for them. It's ridiculous. Now

876
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: let's go to Jim Comey and the removal of those

877
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Speaker 1: classified documents, the notes that he had taken after the

878
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: meeting at Trump Tower one month after he was fired.

879
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: We know the FBI went to his home, retrieved those

880
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: documents and interviewed him, interrogated him, whatever praise you want

881
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: to use, and that they believe he showed a lack

882
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: of candor. Now I know the Papadopolos, Manafort, Michael Cohen,

883
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: for example, all convicted of lying under oath. Why is

884
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: there a double standard considering the IG is recommending some

885
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: type of criminal referraling in that case, because that seems

886
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: to me like the exact same thing others were recently

887
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: found guilty of. Shut Maybe you know a piece of

888
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: evidence here that I don't hear. What I understand about

889
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: that is that there were seven Komy memos and that

890
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: two of them that he says that he didn't intend

891
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: to put classified information in them. Two of them were,

892
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: as they call it up classified by the FBI after

893
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: they obtained possession of them, and we don't know whether,

894
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: although we think it's probably not true that the one

895
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: we know he leaked to the press is one of

896
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Speaker 1: the ones that they consider to be classified. I hadn't

897
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: heard that the agents thought that he lacked candor when

898
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Speaker 1: he interviewed them. I'm not questioning you because you may

899
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: have heard something I didn't, but that is a fact

900
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard before. Let me move on to the

901
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: whole issue of FISA abuse. Bruce Or gave a dire

902
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: warning to every everybody in twenty sixteen. You know about

903
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Kathleen Cavlac at the State Department warning. We now know

904
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Speaker 1: that the dossier author doesn't stand by his own dossier.

905
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: We know that the FBI had put together a spreadsheet

906
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Speaker 1: debunking over ninety percent of it later in the process,

907
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: but they decided to use the bulk of that unverified

908
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: dossier that they've been warned wasn't verifiable as the bulk

909
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: of information to obtain those FISA warrants. The first one

910
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: being October twenty sixteen. To me, I see nothing but

911
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: premeditated fraud against the FISA Court for the purpose of

912
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Speaker 1: denying one individual's constitutional rights and civil liberties, and on

913
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Speaker 1: the second side of that, a backdoor into all things

914
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Speaker 1: Trump campaign, later Trump transition, and later even the Trump

915
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: presidency through Carter Page's email contacts. Yeah. Well, I think

916
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Speaker 1: that they absolutely withheld material information from the court, and

917
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: I think if I were investigating this, I would be

918
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: investigating whether some of the things that they said to

919
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: the court were black and white lies in the sense

920
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: that they were not only inaccurate information, but the agents

921
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: had to have known that it was inaccurate when they

922
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Speaker 1: presented it to the court. The problem with prosecuting this

923
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: as an overarching scheme is they say that their theory

924
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Speaker 1: here was that because Steele had provided them with accurate

925
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: information before in connection with the FIFA soccer investigation, that

926
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: they were entitled to assume that he was giving them

927
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: accurate information this time. Does it say on top of

928
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a FISA application verified, Doesn't that mean that there has

929
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: to be some attempt at verification? And when Steele testified

930
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 1: in an interrogatory under oath in great Britain and said

931
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Speaker 1: he has no idea of any of It's true that

932
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Speaker 1: even simply asking him would have been due diligence. Sean,

933
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Speaker 1: that's what you think, and that's what I think. I

934
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: think that you can't go to a court without corroborating

935
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Speaker 1: the information. To me, When their procedures say that they

936
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Speaker 1: have to bring verified information only to the FISA court,

937
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: what that means is they have to go out and

938
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Speaker 1: corroborate it. What they're saying is their legal position is

939
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Speaker 1: they were entitled to rely on Steel's prior record of

940
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: giving okay, but not long there that might get them

941
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Speaker 1: past the first FIA application, But then Steele was fired

942
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: for what lying and leaking? What about the three renewal applications?

943
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Then their own argument doesn't hold water, does it? They

944
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: still didn't. I don't think it holds water shown and

945
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Speaker 1: I'd go further than that. I would say that you know,

946
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Speaker 1: when they went in the first application telling the court

947
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Speaker 1: that they didn't think that Steel was the source of

948
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Speaker 1: the press reports that they presented to the court in

949
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: this circular reporting thing they did, that was ridiculous for

950
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: them to take that position. There was there was like

951
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: eight ways to Sunday that anybody should have understood that

952
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Speaker 1: that Steel was the source. And you know, at a

953
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Speaker 1: certain point when you start to stack up all the

954
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Speaker 1: things that they withheld from the AARD and all the

955
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: things that they absolutely should exactly were inaccurate, you know,

956
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a very hard time, especially as time

957
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: went on, and even you know, they had not even

958
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: signed the third application when the FBI knew ninety percent

959
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: of it had been debunked, and that Steel himself denied

960
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: his own dossier and any truth in it. Let me

961
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: take it a step further here, because we also have

962
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot going on with John Dorham. A lot of

963
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: time I've been told by my sources had been spent

964
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Speaker 1: in Europe. Then another way that they was sort of

965
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: a backdoor way to spy on the Trump campaign, transition

966
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: and presidency was through the use of foreign intelligence, friendly

967
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: intelligence sources in Great Britain, Italy and Australia. That would

968
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,479
Speaker 1: be Professor misfied. That means that the Muller report was wrong.

969
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: He wasn't Russian intelligence but Western intelligence. His role in

970
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: all of this, The way they went after Clovis, Papadoppolos

971
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: and Page abroad and then the big question to me

972
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: is whether they purposely outsourced intelligence gathering of American citizens

973
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: for the very purpose design to circumvent American law against

974
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: spying against Americans without a warrant. That case seems to

975
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: be an even bigger part of the troubles that are

976
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: coming and the exposure that many have. I think you're

977
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: right about that, and I also think this is the

978
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: vexing problem which may prevent us from ever getting completely

979
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. One of the things that's

980
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: really bothered me from the beginning is why the President

981
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: didn't disclose more of this information. Now, I know that

982
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: if he had disclosed that they would have accused him

983
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: of obstruction, and that was something that he had to

984
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: wrestle with. But I think the other thing that the

985
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies, I imagine are beating him with is that

986
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: even if terrible wrongs were done here, these are relationships

987
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: that we have with these Internet l or foreign intelligence

988
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: services that we are allied with and that we rely on.

989
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: We actually do rely on for information. That is, I'm

990
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: all in favor of the best, and I do think

991
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: our three letter agencies we have the premier intelligence agencies

992
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: in the world. I think we have the premier law

993
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: enforcement agency in the FBI in the entire world. I

994
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: have no issue with them spying to protect us and

995
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: the dangerous job they do every day, and I have

996
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: no complaints at all. But I do have a complaint

997
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: if those powerful weapons we entrust to them are then

998
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: turned not only on the American people, but used to

999
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: basically undermine a duly elected president and influence the outcome

1000
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: of an election, and then try and undo the election

1001
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: because they don't like the results. And I think that's

1002
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: the crux of where we are with this. Yeah, you look,

1003
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: you and me both. What I'm worried about, Sean, is

1004
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: that there's so much foreign intelligence service involving in this.

1005
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: My book argues that this scheme goes back to twenty fifteen,

1006
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and I think it doesn't start with the FBI, It

1007
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: starts with the CIA and Foreign intelligence services. And what

1008
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm worried about is the intelligence agencies are arguing to

1009
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: the President that he can't disclose all this information because

1010
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: even if it shouldn't have happened, we have these arrangements

1011
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: with the foreign intelligence services, and we can't violate if

1012
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: they abuse their power, if they assisted in spying on

1013
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Americans to circumvent our laws. Well, the American people, I

1014
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: think need to know that truth. That is something that

1015
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: the president would be able to do. That's why I've

1016
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: argued that we need to know what happened here. But

1017
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand what the other side is arguing.

1018
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: And I imagine that that's their, you know, their biggest weapon.

1019
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to fly, because the president

1020
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: has full authority to unredact, to unredact anything he wants,

1021
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: and release anything he wants. And if it is going

1022
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: to clean up an abuse of power and a corruption

1023
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: that was used to steal an election or a soft code,

1024
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: then we better see that information and we better fix it,

1025
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: because we won't have a country if we don't. Andy,

1026
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: the book is fascinating. We wish you all the best.

1027
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Ball of Collusion, The Plot to rig an election, destroyer Presidency.

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Speaker 1: Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores, everywhere. Thank you

1029
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: so much for being will us. Thanks so much. Sean,

1030
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: stay right here for our final news round up and

1031
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: information overload. Very disturbing development. Indeed, your former Attorney General

1032
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Speaker 1: of California, what's your reaction to these initial reports and

1033
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: I stress the word initial report. Well, it's just when

1034
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: will it stop? Right? I mean, part of my focus

1035
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: on what we need to do around smart gun safety

1036
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: laws is recognize that we have to have more enforcement

1037
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: around gun dealers. Well ninety percent of the guns that

1038
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: are associated with crime or sold by just five percent

1039
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: of the gun dealers in the United States. And so

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Speaker 1: among the many plans that I have, both in the

1041
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: form of executive action and also in the form of legislation,

1042
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: one of them is to put more sources into the

1043
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: ATF to take the licenses of gun dealers who violate

1044
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: the law. And that includes a number of things, including

1045
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: when they are responsible for doing background checks not doing them. So,

1046
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: but does your plan go from your perspective far enough? Well,

1047
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: they're a variety of things. First of all, let's be clear,

1048
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: I have hugged too many mothers of homicide victims over

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: the years. I have looked at more autopsy photographs than

1050
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: I care to tell you of people whose lives have

1051
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: been ended because of gun violence. We need Congress to act.

1052
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: We do not lack for good ideas, we do not

1053
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: lack for tragedies. The failure of Congress, however, the United

1054
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: States Congress to act on passing smart gun safety laws

1055
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: is the issue. So when elected, I'll give the United

1056
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: States Congress one hundred days to pull their act together

1057
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: on this and put a bill on my desk for signature,

1058
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Speaker 1: and if they do not, I am prepared to take

1059
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Speaker 1: executive action to one put in place a comprehensive background

1060
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Speaker 1: check requirement, to put the resources into the ATF, to

1061
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Speaker 1: take the licenses from gun dealers who violate the law,

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Speaker 1: and three to ban the importation of the song. So

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Speaker 1: just to be precise, and so where Congress fails to act,

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Speaker 1: I am prepared when God willing elected president and is

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Speaker 1: say so, I'm prepared to act through executive action. And

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Speaker 1: let us also be clear, doing nothing is not an option.

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Speaker 1: Doing nothing is not an option. So I'm prepared to

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Speaker 1: do that. I'm prepared to say that we should include

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Speaker 1: domestic terrorism as part of what is the focus of

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Speaker 1: our counter terrorism organizations are federal law enforcement organizations. I'm

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Speaker 1: prepared to say that law enforcement should be allowed to

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Speaker 1: seize the guns of those who are suspected to be

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Speaker 1: involved in domestic terrorism, similar to a tr They're going

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Speaker 1: to have to prove and have reason to suspect that

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Speaker 1: somebody might be a terrorist, but giving federal law enforcement

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Speaker 1: the authority to actually seize the guns of those who

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Speaker 1: may be an imminent threat to their community or their family.

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Speaker 1: So here we are in the middle of all of

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Speaker 1: this yesterday, we're on this program, we're watching, we're monitoring.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to rush to judgment here where we

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: want to lock up facts. We're not even an hour

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Speaker 1: into it, and there's Kamala Harris, not even an hour

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Speaker 1: into what happened yesterday. We had bullets raining down on

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Speaker 1: a Philadelphia neighborhood. We have over a hundred shots fired.

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Speaker 1: We have our brave officers in Philadelphia. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I gotta give a huge shout out to the commissioner there,

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Speaker 1: Richard Ross Junior, who I thought was phenomenal yesterday. This

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Speaker 1: is all an ongoing situation, shooting situation, and literally not

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Speaker 1: even a full hour into it, there's Kamala Harris on CNN,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically saying, well, dot my gun policies, this

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Speaker 1: won't happen, not knowing a single thing about it. And

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Speaker 1: that was literally just only ten minutes prior that they

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Speaker 1: announced it on fake news CNN. We know because we

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Speaker 1: were monitoring it. We had had reports locally, but we

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Speaker 1: were watching the National News Channel. They went on the

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Speaker 1: air with this story at five to sixteen. We came

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Speaker 1: on at five thirty with the story. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: button up our own facts because I can't trust them.

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Speaker 1: The incidents on going. She's already on air within minutes,

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Speaker 1: ten minutes of them even breaking in to talk about

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Speaker 1: it and politicizing it. And you know, think back, we

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Speaker 1: had the DNC, we had Elizabeth Warren fundraising off the

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Speaker 1: incidents in El Paso and in Dayton, Ohio. So this

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Speaker 1: is all happening. We now know, And if you recalled

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Speaker 1: yesterday's coverage here on this program, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: hesitancy in me and a lot of questions. I was

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Speaker 1: watching this very closely. We'll get to Jonathan Gillim was

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Speaker 1: on with us in a minute, and I instinctively could

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Speaker 1: tell the way this was unfolding that there were still

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Speaker 1: people in that building. Those people didn't get out of

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Speaker 1: that building till about nine to forty Eastern time while

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Speaker 1: we were doing our live coverage Hannity on the Fox

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Speaker 1: News Channel. And what we found out was, yeah, there

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: were there were cops still in that building at ninety

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Speaker 1: on the second floor with people prisoners they've apprehended involved

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Speaker 1: in this, and they didn't get out for all those hours,

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: and so it was far more precarious, far worse of

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Speaker 1: a situation than anybody had known at the time. And

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Speaker 1: you have people trying to politicize another tragedy and raise

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Speaker 1: money off of the it's disgusting, it's irresponsible. Would not

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Speaker 1: be a time to play politics. And she wasn't the

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Speaker 1: only one. And we had let's say, Kirsten Gillibrand and

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Speaker 1: a bunch of us, they all they all start jumping

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Speaker 1: in unbelievable And despite all of this, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have then people in Philly. Remember people used to wear

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Speaker 1: those free Boo Mia t shirts Danny Faulkner police officer

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: killed by Boo Mia years ago. Yeah, there were reports

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Speaker 1: all over the place about how people in the neighborhood

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Speaker 1: were actually some people, not everybody, just a small percentage,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, taunting the police and happy they're being shot at.

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: Something is so radically wrong. Eight hundred nine four one,

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Speaker 1: Shaun is our number, Jonathan Gillham, Danielle McLaughlin with us, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: you were on with me. I kept asking you, Jonathan,

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: do you think this might be a hostage situation. It

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: seems to me something's not right here. I could tell

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Speaker 1: by the way they were handling it. Yeah. And you know,

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: in these types of situations where the shooter continues to

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: engage law enforcement, it's a it puts a fluid spin

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: on the situation where tactical units have to be prepared

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: to go in. It's not like when they actually have

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01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: contact with the guy and they're trying to de escalate

1142
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: the situation. That situation. The fact that they had cops

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Speaker 1: in there yesterday was very, very critical. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that they acted, that they waited for the opportune time,

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01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: and they handle the way they did, and when they acted,

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01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: they acted with what we call violence of action. Where

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 1: they went in there, they did what they had to do,

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: was very amazing. And I just want to say that

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Speaker 1: the Camilla Harris SoundBite that you played, I would challenge

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Speaker 1: her to bring up that statistic where she says that

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Speaker 1: she talked to too many moms about these homicides. How

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: many of those moms and the people that she talked

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: to whose relatives were killed were killed with guns that

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: were illegally obtained, because I can guarantee you if not

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, it was right at one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of all the weapons used were illegally obtained. Let me read, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: and please explain this part of it. I want to

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: read from a foxnews dot com report headline Philadelphia police

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Speaker 1: pelted with objects, taunted during harrowing shootouts standoff. Now we

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: know it was far more harrowing and precarious than anybody

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: knew for many, many more hours, but they Philadelphia's KYWTV

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: reporter Alexandria Hoff described that what was happening there how

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01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: a crowd of people bordering the blocked off active shooters scene,

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Speaker 1: harassing officers. She writes, quote, I mentioned this reported quote,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this at ten and since I was harassed

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: during that life shot, I'll mention it here too. And

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Speaker 1: she said on Twitter, quote, A major moment of disappointment

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Speaker 1: this evening was watching a crowd of people taught police

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Speaker 1: officers laughing, yelling at them in the midst of the gunfire. Quote.

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Speaker 1: I should add that ninety eight percent of the people

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Speaker 1: on the scene were respectful and concerned. That moment was

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Speaker 1: just as startling, just a startling thing to see in

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Speaker 1: the middle of something so chaotic, she put in a

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: separate tweet, there was a video posted by Breaking nine

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Speaker 1: one one where a woman can be seen shoving an

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Speaker 1: officer from behind as he passes through the crowd. Others

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Speaker 1: in the crowd yell and throw objects at police as

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Speaker 1: they enter the block the off area amid this act

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: of standoff. Wow, And I know it's only a small

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: percentage of people, but you know, how does anyone act

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: that way in the middle of something like this? I

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: have no idea. I mean, that's totally disgusting. The fact

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: that we had six police officers who were shot by

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, two percent of people are still

1185
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: too many. And clearly that's not something that I'm going

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: to defend. But what I will say, the sisillimare said,

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01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: the problem here is we had this guy had an

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: unlimited supply of weapons, and he had an unlimited supply

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Speaker 1: of bullets. And I do not believe, as somebody who

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Speaker 1: has pretty as years of experience with the US Constitution,

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01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: including the Second Amendment, I do not see that this

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01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 1: Second Amendment protects these high capacity magazines, hundred round magazines

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: like the daycent shooter used, there is no reason to

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: have that for personal security in the home. We have

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: to have these discussions. We want these kinds of ammun

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: this kind of ammunition out of the hands of the

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: bad guys. Why can't we come together and make some

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: sensible decisions out some restrictions. There is no constitutional right. Well,

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Speaker 1: the first Amendment, the Sickon Amendment, no amendment to the

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Speaker 1: Constitution that is unlimited, and the Sickon Amendment is no difference. Johnathan,

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 1: interested in your thoughts on this one hundred hour magazine.

1202
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: What do we need them for? Well, you need them

1203
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: for you need him to defend against a tyrannical government

1204
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: for one. But the other thing is it's there. It's

1205
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: our right to have them for defense of our home.

1206
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: And here's the thing that you got to realize is that, yes, yes, listens,

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: listen to this statistic. Okay, there's millions and millions and

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: millions of legally owned guns by US citizens that yesterday

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: did nothing, tomorrow will do nothing, and for their entire

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Speaker 1: life will not use those weapons in a corrupt manner. However,

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: one person yesterday did what he did, and over the

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01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: past year, you can go to Chicago, you can go

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: to all these other inner cities, You can go to

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01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: any mass shooting, and the majority of those people are

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: one off. They either do a mass shooting or they're

1216
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: gang related. And you want to stop and change that

1217
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: God given rights that are in the Constitution because of

1218
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: those people. Why wouldn't you want to reinforce the rest

1219
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: of the millions and millions of legal, law abiding gun

1220
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: owners ability to use their weapons in those areas. You

1221
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't have those crime areas if that was the case,

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: You're going the wrong way. Now. There is no right,

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: There is no right that is completely unlimited. First Amendment

1224
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: freedom of speech. You know what, You can tell a

1225
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: lie to an FBI agent and you can be prosecuted.

1226
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: That is a restriction on your First Amendment right, shake

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01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: an Amendment Justice Scalia, two thousand and seven. This is

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: a big case in the Supreme Court, he said, And

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 1: this is a giant of conservatism, since the Second Amendment

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: right is not unlimited. You can't have a cannon, you

1231
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: can't have an automatic machine gun in this country. And

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Speaker 1: all I'm trying to say, and I agree with you,

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: the vast, vast, vast majority of gone owners in this country,

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,759
Speaker 1: a law abiding, god loving citizens, and I have nothing

1235
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: against somebody who wants to own a gun. My point

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: is this, the guy in Las Vegas had bump socks,

1237
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: actually which to push President Trump, to his full credit,

1238
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: wrote a regulation we don't have bump socks anymore. He

1239
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: had high capacity magazines. He shot five hundred people from

1240
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: a hotel room. I mean, for Danielle, the bad people

1241
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: will always be able to get those, just like you know,

1242
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: kids choke on bread every year. But we can't outlaw bread.

1243
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: We can't go around outlawing and changing the constitution because

1244
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: of what bad people do. You have to go out

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: and develop a way to find those bad people. Yeah,

1246
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: and I look, I'm not looking for a way to

1247
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: change the constitutions. But we have laws. Right. I'm a

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: really good driver. I'm a safe driver. There's still a

1249
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: speed limit which I have to adhere to. I'm not

1250
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: going to go out and ride my drave my car

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: two hundred miles an hour because I'm a good person.

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: There's a speed limit for the bad guys. Right, we

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: have rules, we have laws to protect ourselves from these

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: bad guys. I don't see why we need to have

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: one hundred round magazines and free flow in this country.

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing we could agree collectively that

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: bad guys are using them, you know, So if you

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: ban that, then the next shooting is with a shotgun

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: or multiple shotguns, and the shooting after that is with handguns,

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: and then the shooting after that is with some other guns.

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Speaker 1: By their very nature, criminals don't obey laws. How does

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: the law abiding citizen protect themselves. Will get back to

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Speaker 1: that Danielle McLaughlin and Jonathan Gillham next, and your calls

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: at the bottom of those half hour. Next half hour,

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01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: we'll get to your calls. Eight hundred nine for one

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: seawan with Jonathan Gillham and Danielle McLaughlin. Jonathan, I'll let

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: you respond. But at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 1: am all four people being trained in the safety and

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: use of a fire I'm a huge safety nut. The

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Speaker 1: end of the day, I believe in the Second Amendment

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Speaker 1: and responsible gun ownership. Criminals are never going to obey

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Speaker 1: the laws, and there's no law that's going to be

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Speaker 1: written that's going to end the evil in the heart

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Speaker 1: of somebody that wants to hurt us, you know, I

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Speaker 1: asked Mayor de Blasio, my interview, Well you're protected by

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Speaker 1: armed guards. Does every new Yorker should every new Yorker

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Speaker 1: have the right in their own home to have a gun.

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Speaker 1: Every new Yorker has a right to be safe. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a right to a gun? They have a

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Speaker 1: right to be safe. Do they have a right to

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Speaker 1: a gun? They ever right to be safe. And at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, this argument of well, this

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: gun has to be banned, that they're going to ban

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Speaker 1: every gun, because that's the logical conclusion. You know, banning

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Speaker 1: the Second or even messing with the Second Amendment will

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Speaker 1: not infringe on a criminals ability to have a weapon

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Speaker 1: to carry out the evil that they do. But if

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01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: you touch the Second Amendment, you will be infringing upon

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Speaker 1: every citizen's ability to protect themselves and to stand against

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Speaker 1: the tyrannical government. That is the most important thing. Rights

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Speaker 1: are not meant to be touched. The Constitution could be

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Speaker 1: amended to make sure everybody has those rights, but the

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Speaker 1: rights themselves should never be infringed upon. Period. Last word,

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Speaker 1: Danielle McLaughlin, I'll give you two examples. You have to

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Speaker 1: get a permit to conceal and carry. That's an infringement

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Speaker 1: on your Second Amendment. You have to get a background

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: chick if you buy it a gun, so that's an

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Speaker 1: infringement on your Seeing Amendment. All I want is something reasonable,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to take away of guns from people.

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Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about that. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: ended right there, Thank you both. Well. Full coverage of

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of all of this tonight on Hannity nineties

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Speaker 1: to a lot of deep state news as we've been

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: telling you coming up on the program tonight, and much

1305
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: much more. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean to

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: the phones. We go next and Mark Furman straight ahead,

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: Good morning, Tony. They are expanding and very likely to

1308
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: include that new detail that you mentioned about the guard

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,959
Speaker 1: not being a regular correctionals officer here at the facility

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Speaker 1: in downtown Manhattan. Maxwell is said to be Epstein's ex

1311
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend turned business associate. Her current location is unknown. She

1312
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: was more of a partner in his subception, really, and

1313
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: there are allegations that she was involved in having sex

1314
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: with some of these girls as well. Court documents from

1315
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: twenty eleven reveal Epstein controlled several apartments in a building

1316
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: just blocks from his seventy seven million dollar new York

1317
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: Townhouse and allegedly housed young models there, underage girls from

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Speaker 1: all over the world, And yesterday Bar issued this stern

1319
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: warning for anyone who may be evading justice. Let me

1320
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: assure you that this case will continue on against anyone

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: who was complicit with Epstein. Any co conspirators should not

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Speaker 1: rest easy. The victims deserve justice and they will get

1323
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Speaker 1: it well. CBS News has learned that Epstein's a strange brother,

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01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Mark was called after Epstein's apparent suicide. He was the

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Speaker 1: one who actually identified the body. New York City Medical

1326
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Speaker 1: Examiner's Office has performed an autopsy on Epstein, but Tony

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01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: those results are still the update. By the way, twenty

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Speaker 1: three now until the top of the hour, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: ninety four one Shawn is our number. We know that

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Speaker 1: two Manhattan jail guards that were tasked with monitoring they've

1331
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: now been put on leave as the warden has now

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,480
Speaker 1: been removed from that post. But those tasks with monitoring

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: Epstein before he died fell asleep on the job, and

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: the New York Post reporting that they fudged the log

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: entries to show they checked on him and other inmates

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Speaker 1: when they actually did not. That is one of the

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Speaker 1: big investigations. Also, Epstein's comments are getting a lot of

1338
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: attention now when he bragged that I have a lot

1339
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: of dirt on a lot of powerful people, a lot

1340
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: of political names, a lot of Hollywood names have come up.

1341
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: The one person that appears to have been willing to

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Speaker 1: have a public fight in all places the esteemed Palm

1343
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: Beach community of Florida, where I guess your social status

1344
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: means everything. But Trump had no problem throwing Epstein out

1345
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: of Mara Lago what fifteen sixteen years ago. We have

1346
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: a lot of investigations into who might have been on

1347
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: the Lolita Express, one of his apparently many private jets,

1348
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Speaker 1: or orgy Island. And there's a new lawsuit that has

1349
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Speaker 1: been filed that targets Epstein's alleged Madam. There's woman Maxwell

1350
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: that you just heard reported on there. And on top

1351
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 1: of that, as predictable as the day is long, of course,

1352
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,440
Speaker 1: everything is Donald Trump's fault. And the amount of conspiracy

1353
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: theories that have emerged here one is sicker than the next,

1354
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 1: but they're out there and they're being pushed by, of course,

1355
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Speaker 1: Hollywood elites and everyone on the media that hates Donald Trump. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we're looking for the truth and the facts wherever it

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: takes us, as we usually do, and we're not rushing

1358
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Speaker 1: to judgment, and we don't know the answers. We're asking questions.

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Speaker 1: Mark Ferman, former homicide detective, How are you, sir By

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Sean sounds like quite a story. Well, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: one thing that is certain is what Barr said, and

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Speaker 1: that is that there are a lot of serious irregularities

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Speaker 1: in all of this and he's going to get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of it. And I believe in when he

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01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: says so well, I do too. I think he's very sincere.

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Speaker 1: He's also very new, and I think if he would

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Speaker 1: have been in that position in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, the federal investigation might have started

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Speaker 1: then instead of waiting until two nineteen. So when you

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Speaker 1: listen to that, though, I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that are very disappointed that they couldn't prosecute Epstein

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: and possibly others, which would be a great career move

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, a great thing for the

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Speaker 1: resume and justice. But death is better than forty five years.

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Speaker 1: So if somebody deserved to die, it would probably been Epstein.

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Speaker 1: If it's by his own hand. He just cheated everybody

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Speaker 1: out of justice and revenge. Well, Diddy, or is there

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01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: evidence that might lead to people having to answer a

1379
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Speaker 1: lot of questions? For example, who attended Orage Island? I

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Speaker 1: would assume that they're probably are manifest that can be

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Speaker 1: gone over. I would assume that anybody that was on

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Speaker 1: as private jet, they probably had a chronicle that I

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Speaker 1: would assume that the FBI we had drowne video and

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Speaker 1: it showed the FBI looking into every crevice and corner

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Speaker 1: in that island of his obviously looking for some type

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Speaker 1: of evidence into this case. What are the things they

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Speaker 1: can look for now that he's dead. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you bring up great things that should have been done

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Speaker 1: a decade ago. But let's just take it one at

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: a time. First, you have to go to the crime scene.

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Speaker 1: You have an unexplained death or somewhat of an unexplained death.

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01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:43,480
Speaker 1: But all suicides are virtually handled as a possible homicide

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Speaker 1: until you find evidence or direction that leads you away

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: from that end to suicide. So you have a in

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Speaker 1: custody death in a locked cell of a person who's

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Speaker 1: by himself with a camera on the door, whether the

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Speaker 1: guards are asleep or awake, whether they're checking him every

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes, so they're not you could not have prevented

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Speaker 1: the suicide. But wait a minute. The guy tried to

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Speaker 1: commit suicide just a couple of weeks prior. Isn't it

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01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: seem very irregular that you would not have a twenty

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01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: four hour watch on this guy. Well, I think you would,

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: but you know, you're talking about logistics, manpower, and time.

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01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: He had psychiatric evaluations every day for over a week,

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Speaker 1: and so now you're gonna have to look at the

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Speaker 1: psychiatrist that recommended he go off suicide watch, because that

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Speaker 1: is who the recommendation most probably came from. And you

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,799
Speaker 1: know what they're doing now is they're investigating two guards.

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Speaker 1: They have an in custody death. They're put on administrative leave.

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Speaker 1: That would be pretty normal for almost any agency. The

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Speaker 1: warden has been replaced. That isn't quite as normal as

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Speaker 1: any other in custody death, but they found something there

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Speaker 1: that it would probably be better served publicly if they

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Speaker 1: just replaced the warden. So you know, I see this

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Speaker 1: as we're ignoring the crime scene and we're jumping to conspiracies,

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Speaker 1: and we forget that Epstein was out for a decade

1417
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Speaker 1: walking around the world, and if there was somebody that

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Speaker 1: was rich and powerful that really wanted to eliminate him,

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: there was probably a hundred ways that you could have

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01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: gotten rid of him. And it could have been an

1421
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,799
Speaker 1: accident or a poisoning, could have been a car accident.

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: But there's all these opportunities. So we wait until he's

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: in custody, until somebody attempts to actually create a death,

1424
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: whether it looks like suicide or it's a homicide, then

1425
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: you have to start, including burst these two guards. Well

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Speaker 1: the only way, well that's true, but apparently there are

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Speaker 1: cameras outside of the cell, but not inside the cell.

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: You would think in this day and age we would

1429
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: have figured out that the most cost efficient way of

1430
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: monitoring prisoners at night would be cameras in every cell

1431
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: that couldn't be destroyed, and if anybody was attempting to

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Speaker 1: do so, you have a team go in and stop them.

1433
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: But I guess we haven't figured that part of it

1434
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: out yet. Constitutionally, you can't, sean. I think the only

1435
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: place you can is in a supermax facility somewhat like

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Speaker 1: like Pelican Bay in California, where somebody is isolated from

1437
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: all human beings. Excuse me for thinking that if you commit,

1438
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, horrible crimes, and you commit felonies, that you

1439
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: might lose some of your constitutional rights. You do lose

1440
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: your right to vote, you might lose your right to

1441
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: privacy at night in a prison cell two. Well on it,

1442
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think four of these sedral judges are

1443
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know the legal standing on that, but

1444
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: it could be nothing more than the lack of being

1445
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: able to update a correctional facility. This one's fairly old

1446
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: from what I've from what I've learned, but it was

1447
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be the safest one. Mark. I mean, this

1448
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: is where they held Chapo, and we know his track

1449
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: record of escaping prisons, right, and you know, to keep

1450
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: somebody from committing suicide is somewhat of a monumental task.

1451
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: You have one person that's motivated, motivated to end their

1452
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: life twenty four to seven, and then you have all

1453
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: these other people that are trying to intercede and keep

1454
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: him from doing that. He saw a window, and if

1455
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: he did commit suicide, he was successful. The investigation, I

1456
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: would suspect, and I'm not saying I know but I

1457
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: would say it's the pathologists has probably listed this as

1458
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: a suicide, although you can say a suicide classification to

1459
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: a homicide if you come up with evidence in the future,

1460
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: and quite possibly that might be what they're looking for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is just it stinks to

1462
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: eye heaven. What did you think of that sweetheart deal?

1463
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're involved in the O. J. Simpson case.

1464
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'll never forget once you told me that

1465
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: there was blood evidence on the gate and it was

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Speaker 1: ever used by the prosecution. Do I recall that correctly, No,

1467
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Speaker 1: that's correct. It was never recovered once I was sent

1468
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: to the Rockingham estate and the Bundy scene was left

1469
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: to van Adder and Langley never collected the fingerprint that

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Speaker 1: was in blood on the gate, that was right above

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01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: the footprints of the Brunomali shoes in blood with blood

1472
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Speaker 1: drops coming from the right side of the shoes. So,

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so consistent, but you know, mistakes

1474
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: are made, and mistakes can either be overlooking it or

1475
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: when did you figure that part out at that time.

1476
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to digress here, but now you've I'm interested again. Well,

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Speaker 1: two months afterwards, I saw one of the detectives in

1478
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Speaker 1: the prosecution floor going through the book, and I went

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Speaker 1: to said, what that print come back? The print come back?

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Speaker 1: And the blood we have any DNA match And they

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Speaker 1: just got this blank stare. So I went to Marshall

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Speaker 1: Clark and I go, hey, what happened to the bloody

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Speaker 1: finger from on the gate and the blood? They never

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Speaker 1: collected it. So in essence, there was your your whole

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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt case. It wasn't the glove because that was

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Speaker 1: at the crime scene. That was a slam dunk right there. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark Furman, thank you. Let's end to our

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Speaker 1: busy phones here James and Michigan. James High, how are

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Speaker 1: you welcome to the program? Says I'm a coal screener.

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Speaker 1: You are a retired corrections officer. That's why mother did

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Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Not an easy job working in

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Speaker 1: a prison every day, sixteen hour shifts. Yeah, Sean, I'm

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Speaker 1: honored to talk to you today. I'd like to take

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Speaker 1: a sick and let's recognize all the staff on both

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Speaker 1: your radio and TV that do such an awesome bringing

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Speaker 1: the tooth of America. I appreciate everything. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: letting us have this microphone and camera every night, microphone

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Speaker 1: every day. Thank you you make it possible, not me, Yeah, Seani.

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Speaker 1: They have four children, they're all millennials. The ages are

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Speaker 1: twenty six to thirty five. And I have something they'll

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Speaker 1: ever have. I got to find bens at pension. And

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Speaker 1: all my children have furrow one keys, and under Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: the wages in their furrow one are rocking. And when

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Speaker 1: they go to vote here in all over year, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be climate change or going green or

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Speaker 1: all these social handleuts that where everything's free, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be those two are going to be one of the

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Speaker 1: major driving forces to get to the election booth. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's unique to my kids. I think

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Speaker 1: I think there's thousands of millennials out there that that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a key point to all. This election

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Speaker 1: is going to go through them. Listen, we A you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't take anything for granted, especially elections. I've been

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Speaker 1: around too long. I've seen too many what do you

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Speaker 1: call them October surprises, and I'd been through enough cycles

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Speaker 1: to know we don't know what issues are gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the fourth in the media, in people's minds, in

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Speaker 1: the fall of October and November of twenty twenty. We

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, people saying they're indicators we might have

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Speaker 1: an economic slowdown of our recession. I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: don't know. But I can say this that the policies

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Speaker 1: that the President has implemented, our policies I believe my

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Speaker 1: entire working career. And that's you know, originalists, constitutionalists on

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Speaker 1: the court, securing our borders, the biggest tax cuts in history,

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Speaker 1: the biggest cuts in burdensome regulation ever in history. We

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Speaker 1: see the results of these policies of have yielded incredible dividends,

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Speaker 1: especially for the working men and women in this country.

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Speaker 1: And record low unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans,

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Speaker 1: women in the workforce, youth unemployment, and the best employment

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Speaker 1: situation since nineteen sixty nine, and for the first time

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Speaker 1: in seventy five years, energy independence, everything between trade deals

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Speaker 1: and his approach to foreign policy, not dropping bundles of

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Speaker 1: cash to bribe dictators and Mullah's I just don't agree

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Speaker 1: with those appeasement policies. So, you know, I like this president.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him reelected. I like to see

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Speaker 1: him cement in a lot of the institutional changes that

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Speaker 1: he's making. I think he'd need a second term to

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Speaker 1: do all of that or else very quickly. Any one

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Speaker 1: of these extreme radical new Green Deal socialists could destroy

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Speaker 1: at all. There's a lot at stake. The recent study

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Speaker 1: was done. It says forty million Americans are on taste

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Speaker 1: to outlive their four O one K. And the four

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Speaker 1: O one is something in the long haul the wages.

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Speaker 1: There's no money at the end of the week if

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Speaker 1: they're not making a decent wage. So this long haul

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Speaker 1: of the four one K, I know exactly how one

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Speaker 1: of my children it's just rock and he's making good money.

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Speaker 1: There's enough money at the end of the week for

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Speaker 1: the wife and the kids in a nice car and

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Speaker 1: a nice house. Done that what we all want, isn't that?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that why you work in a jail. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: why my mother works sixteen hours shifts almost daily in

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Speaker 1: a jail so we could have a better life. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap things up for today. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fallout. Not an hour into the shooting yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Of course, people politicizing new judicial Watts Freedom of Information

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Speaker 1: Act requests granted, We'll tell you all about it. We've

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Speaker 1: got Eraldo Bongino, We've got Fitting Sarah, Greg, Jesse, Waters

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Speaker 1: Gorka and Bernie Carrick, all coming up tonight Ninetiestern, Hannity,

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Speaker 1: Fox News, and we hope you'll join us. See you

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Speaker 1: tonight as always, thank you for being with us, making

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Speaker 1: the show possible, and we'll see you back here tomorrow