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Speaker 1: the show today below this Lady's Magical Valerie Corral, the

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Speaker 1: n apostrophees Woman's Alliance for Medical Marijuana, the longest running

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Speaker 1: WHAM serves chronically and seriously ill and dying members of

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Speaker 1: their community with organic, non GMO cannabis grown in their

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Speaker 1: of work. You guys are doing their value. When I

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Speaker 1: Right now. We've got Valerie Corral, the co founder and

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Speaker 1: that day. It's ever recovery time. And I think the

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Speaker 1: main thing I think for for you know, and and

427
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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm speaking out turn, but it's not that,

428
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just a better quality of medication, right,

429
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying or are you absolutely absolutely?

430
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean I can't. It's it's so let me tell

431
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Speaker 1: you this, Okay. When Kaya was on the severe anti

432
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: seizure pharmaceuticals, she was a zombie. My daughter was a

433
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: zombie even when she was, you know, having the seizures.

434
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: And after recovery, she contented she was just a zombie.

435
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: With cannabis, you know, it doesn't stay in your system.

436
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: It builds up your cannabinoids. So therefore it's able to

437
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: fight off, you know, any pain a lot quicker and

438
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: recovery time it steeps out of your system. You're you're

439
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: not high, you know, all day long. It just comes

440
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: out of your system within five to six hours. It

441
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: doesn't give you that, you know, that effect that a

442
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: pheno barble for the barbitual would give you. If you're

443
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: on a barbitual. I mean, anybody that's an adult can

444
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: explain to you what that the side effects feel. It

445
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: feels like coming off of terrible yeah, oh my god.

446
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: It's it's like, why why do you? And I continue

447
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: to ask myself this, Why did doctors give you that?

448
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: Why didn't they give us cannabis from the beginning? Why

449
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: was that the last choice? I don't understand. I have

450
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: a friend that is a queie. She's from New Zealand

451
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and she's they have a reverse approach, you know, they

452
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: go to their medicinal herbal doctors first before they give

453
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: you pharmaceuticals. I don't understand why here in America it's

454
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Speaker 1: just subsidite. And I do believe that Western medicine does

455
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: hell like it. It treats emergencies, but it doesn't get

456
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: to the root of the problem. You know, you don't

457
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: she you know, started to cut you off on this,

458
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: but you know, I thoroughly agree with you on that.

459
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Speaker 1: So I think there's a there's a time for h

460
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Speaker 1: comfort care. When I mean, when you're just so blown out,

461
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: like you're you're on your way out and you just

462
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: need that extra boost of Western medicine. I could say that,

463
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's a comfort care period of time where

464
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, what makes me a zombie, because that's the

465
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: most humane thing for me to be. But and I

466
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: say that respectfully, I don't mean to hurt anybody that's

467
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, one hasn't a dat. Your dad and my

468
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: dad both by both of my parents went out that way,

469
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: so we can say stuff like that, Yeah, well, and

470
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Speaker 1: that's and that's my point is I've I've I watched

471
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Speaker 1: my you know, my my father, you know, dying with cancer,

472
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Speaker 1: um advocate of cannabis, you know, at one point in

473
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: his life, says, look, I don't want any more of this,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, medicine, no more oxycotton, no more Viking and

475
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Speaker 1: no more anything. I just want cannabis, right, And then

476
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Speaker 1: I'm giving him and I'm like, first of all, I'm

477
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Speaker 1: scared because I'm going Dad, you can't just stop taking

478
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Speaker 1: these pills. You gotta you know, and he's like, I

479
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: don't give a ship. I'm dying, give me you know, edible, Yeah,

480
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So here I am, you know,

481
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: telling him this and then and and I'm only sharing

482
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Speaker 1: this for the listeners that that that still have that

483
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Speaker 1: question in their heart in their mind, you know, because

484
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: and and for everyone is different. And this is not

485
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Speaker 1: medical advice. Um but but you know, very important that

486
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Speaker 1: you know is that you know, he took that cannabis

487
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Speaker 1: and just decided to take cannabis instead of the oxy

488
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: cottons of vikings and everything else. And then at one point,

489
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Speaker 1: at one point in his hospital bed though, you know,

490
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Speaker 1: it was like give him morphine, give him everything, give

491
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: him whatever he needs to make him more comfortable, right,

492
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: because he was in that much of a of a switch.

493
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of people that are

494
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: lost in that translation. I think feel like you, ladies

495
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: are are are helping that stigma and pushing that that

496
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: narrative and and and sharing that through your child and

497
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: and and these things are so powerful for every woman,

498
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: man and child. They could one hear a voice or

499
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: two that hasn't heard it yet. UM. So I want

500
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: to tell you, ladies, that thank you for your fight

501
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: and and U and everything that you do. It doesn't

502
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: go unrecognized. UM and when we come when we come back,

503
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I want to hear more about these stories. That's Cannabis

504
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Speaker 1: Talk one a one. Will be right back after this,

505
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: we'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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511
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Speaker 1: Valerie and Marina, and we just went to break Marina

512
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Speaker 1: you said you wanted to share a story about Valerie,

513
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Speaker 1: which thank you Marina everything absolutely absolutely, And I did

514
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: want to circle back to what you were just saying

515
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: about your father and how when you're in so much pain,

516
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, I don't care. Just give me

517
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the cannabis, give me, you know whatever, it takes that

518
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: pain away. You don't want to take that oxycon and

519
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to take those pharmaceuticals anymore. But do

520
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: you know how many hundreds of people we get at

521
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: WHAM saying that it's like I almost feel like they

522
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: come too late to us, Like Valerie has gone through

523
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: hundreds of WHAM patients with when they come to that stage,

524
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: and I'm always like, why don't they just come to

525
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: us a little sooner, like give them a fighting chance.

526
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: Why don't they just come to us sooner we before

527
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: they get to that stage of their of their pain

528
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: and their life, at their end of their life. Sure,

529
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: you know it's so true. I mean, you know, and

530
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: I just you know, since we're talking about saying my

531
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: father's name, his name is Raymond Wright, and you know,

532
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: like I said on his deathbed, you know, there there

533
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: there If we had more people that we're doing what

534
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: you you guys are teaching, you know, there there would

535
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: be opportunity and there should be education about how this

536
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: works for people, because you should definitely have a choice

537
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: whether you want to use cannabis for your um you know,

538
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: your your illnesses, or you want to use oxycotton and

539
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: and and or Viking ins or whatever. I mean, it

540
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: should be your But it hasn't been, but it has

541
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Speaker 1: a been and starting to and again it goes back

542
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: to and I'll circle back to when the the uh

543
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, the aids and the different clinic, you know,

544
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: the patients, the different patients that had aids UH that

545
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: were coming out and and go into the hospital and saying, listen,

546
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: this is something that I need for my illnesses. And

547
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: they were speaking out. And then now finally, like you said,

548
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: thirty years later, here we are and and we're still

549
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: having this unfortunate fight over whether or not it's you know,

550
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: UH should be used, if it's illegal, whether it should

551
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: be you know, for medical purposes or whatever. And UH Again,

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate you ladies for sharing this with our listeners

553
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: and and the world, because it's it's not easy to

554
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: one be that person and too um two you know,

555
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: actually live and and and and put your time and

556
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: energy into this, I mean, you know, to help others.

557
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Because what we're doing right now is we're sharing a

558
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: story that may help one person. And if it's that

559
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: one person we can help, we've done our jobs. So

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Again, that's just that is

561
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: awesome and all that meaning said you guys, I know,

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Speaker 1: UM the website w A M M P H y

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Speaker 1: t O t h E r A P I E.

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Speaker 1: S dot r G. And uh, that's where you'll see

565
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Valerie on there doing or thing, and just the videos

566
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: and so much about what she's done in her work

567
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: where I mean, Valerie can just go on and on

568
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Speaker 1: about you. And then to think about everything that you've done,

569
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Marina and are doing and living and going through is

570
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: just breaks my heart, hurts my heart life. Just want

571
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: to support and shure you on and pray for you

572
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and your family and just the advocate but the struggle advocacy.

573
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, were you even a cannabis fan. Marina realized

574
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: cannabis would say, no, you know, it's not that I

575
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: ever had anything against it, but even my own mother,

576
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: being a Mexican growing in a rough neighborhood, my mom

577
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: would always say, hey, you know, the marijuana is for

578
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: the chlos where. Yeah, in Salina, Salinas, California. So I

579
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Speaker 1: don't know how, I don't know how old or young

580
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: YouTube ladies are. But you guys remember Joe, Uh what

581
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Speaker 1: is it Big Joe from the Doghouse. Yah, yeah, he's

582
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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, I got wild nine for nine

583
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: out there. That's right. You guys are from the Bay Area,

584
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: so I get the Morning show called the Doghouse back

585
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: in the day with me, Elvis and JV in Hollywood,

586
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Big Joe Grunt and uh we did a big morning

587
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: show out there of all the crazy stuff. So yeah,

588
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: that's funny. I forgot about that blue Thank you for

589
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I read about it on your website. Yes, you know,

590
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to circle back for a second because we're

591
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: talking like there's us and we're talking and we have

592
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: this or sympathical we have this shared experience that we

593
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: know and when we talk about human suffering and we

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Speaker 1: and our families watching the people that we love um

595
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: going through an experience that we can not all. We

596
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: can't alter the outcome, but we can change and provide.

597
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: We can change the feelings around it and maybe soften

598
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: the suffering, maybe less in it, and contribute to that.

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00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: That's the people who built Wham and built and this

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00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: incarnation of Wham Phyto Therapy. It's probably the the most

601
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: rewarding piece of all of what we do, because it

602
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: isn't money, for sure, is the shared experience with each other,

603
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: so that when when we speak to one another, we're

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: in this context especially, we're focused on the what, what's

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: the message that we want to share with each other.

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Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing for us is two,

607
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Speaker 1: it's being kind to each other's even everybody gets mad,

608
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: everyone fails, everyone gets piste off, everyone makes mistakes. You

609
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: can be maya culpa or you can move on. What

610
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: we have to offer is kindness because not every time

611
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: when we relieve somebody's suffering, we we build our organization.

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: We say from seed to deathbed because we're there through

613
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the whole process and we're committed as we can be.

614
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Speaker 1: But what the difference is is that when we notice

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Speaker 1: what people need and we listen to them, they tell us.

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Speaker 1: And that's the story that's taking the time. Talking is

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Speaker 1: so important and listening is profound. That's where you find

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Speaker 1: out how I'm you or you're you're like me, we're

619
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Speaker 1: like we we have of course, we have our cultures

620
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Speaker 1: and our differences and celebrate and honor and respect those

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Speaker 1: and not and recognize what that the common thread is

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Speaker 1: our vulnerability and human suffering and how we meet each

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Speaker 1: other and what we do about lessening it. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you if you listen to someone long enough, you

625
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Speaker 1: know you you will um they will tell you what

626
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Speaker 1: they want, what they're doing, what they're doing and why

627
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Speaker 1: they're there. UM, you know, yeah, and it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: very difficult because a lot of people you know, UM

629
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Speaker 1: don't know how to listen and because they're only looking

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Speaker 1: for what they want or what they you know, what

631
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Speaker 1: they have, or what's what's right in front of them.

632
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Speaker 1: But through that process, I just I just want to

633
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Speaker 1: share you know that, you know, how can people you

634
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: know participate, help get get help from you guys. How

635
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Speaker 1: how can people actually you know, UM link up with

636
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Speaker 1: you or or support what you guys are doing out

637
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: there because it's it's amazing. Well, we're going to start

638
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: a delivery service because we haven't been able to have

639
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: we don't have enough funds to open the dispensary and

640
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: community center because they're two things that have to be together.

641
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: It's not they're not separate. We have to have a

642
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: space for people to be and so that we can

643
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: no we can communicate, create community around that, the culture

644
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: of community and around sick people, people who are sick

645
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: and dying and not only but UM and we are.

646
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: You can get to us through our website WHAM phyto

647
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: Plant Therapies, phytotherapies. We change that can I get to

648
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: have a second to say why we change that? The

649
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: term medical marijuana is obviously near Obviously there's a legalization

650
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna push and has pushed medical away. The pharmaceutical

651
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: industry as it capitalizes on all as much as it

652
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: can on plant medicines will do that too. So we're

653
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: we are available throughout our website and hoping hoping to

654
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: reopen our dispensary soon. In the meantime there will be

655
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: a delivery service and we have a phone number, but

656
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that get the phone number

657
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: out too. It's still on our website. You can call

658
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: us if you want wham Phytotherapies dot org zach it.

659
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: That's great. You know, everything about that is fantastic. Is

660
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: there anything else for Marena that you what you want

661
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: to get out there? Um? Yeah, I just want to

662
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: say also to the Spanish community, you know, because we

663
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: don't get enough. I think it's because a lot of

664
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: them are nervous or scared because they're not they don't

665
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: have their green cards and their children are suffering and

666
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: they don't know how to get ahold of the oils

667
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: and they don't want to get them or take them

668
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: because they're scared. Our community needs it. Our community, I mean,

669
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: my goodness, they work you know there in Watsonville there

670
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: and Salina's were so close and they work the land

671
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: they get, you know, they have they're contaminated with pesticides.

672
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: They end up having these poor kids with chronic illness, autism, seizures,

673
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: and it's like if they only need that cannabis oils

674
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: could really help them, you know, and no questions ask.

675
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: It's all donation based. We could help give them the

676
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: oils for their children or even for them selves if

677
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: they're suffering from a chronic illness. What are the elements like?

678
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: For instance, let me just go personal for myself. Let's

679
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: just say I'm a parent with two little kids, one seven,

680
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: one nine. Uh, focus off on the nine year old

681
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. Doctors recommending maybe a pill, maybe there's

682
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: to focus better. Is there something Valerie and Marina that

683
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: you guys would say for your average child that's you know,

684
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: normal student at the school. Um, she is a normal

685
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: third grader, but being said, could use a focus pill,

686
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: so to speak. Is there something that you guys recommend

687
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: that that's a on the WHAM website. Are is that

688
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: something you guys sit down with families and talking. Yeah,

689
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: we want to talk to people because nothing there's no

690
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: single medicine that works, and really there's it's often it's

691
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: often um every you know, it's everything but changes us

692
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: and helps us. But people can manage what they can

693
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: do in a moment. We're just really talked with each

694
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: other and we could have we can do that. Well, ladies,

695
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: we go, oh ahead, go ahead, No, I just we

696
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: we you know, not everybody. It's not one size fits all.

697
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: That's what Valerie's trying to say. We really try and

698
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: get to the root of the problem. It's not just

699
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: like here, just take this and it'll solve it. No,

700
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: it's we want to know your environment. We want to

701
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: know what you're eating, we want to know you know

702
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: what kind of stress. I mean, we will talk to you,

703
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: we will listen to you. You know. It's funny because

704
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: I think that has a lot to do with healing, right,

705
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean that that that people people don't even realize, Like,

706
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, so I was reading something or watching something

707
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: online and you know, the guy said, you know, he said,

708
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: and he was in a great shape, and he said,

709
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I was like way out of shape. And and there

710
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: was a point where I realized myself as a as

711
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: a you know, a vessel and a and a spirit.

712
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: And once I realized myself as a are it and

713
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I realized that food is is not a um, you know,

714
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: it cannot affect me, right. It can only help or

715
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: or not affect me. It's up to me whether I

716
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: let it affect me or not. Right, because I guess

717
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: he had you know, fasted for forty days and you know,

718
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: I went through these spiritual you know, revisions in his life.

719
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: And I think there's a there's a place for people

720
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: to to you know, know that one if there's people

721
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: to listen to you, people to give you good medicine,

722
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: um that that's natural that that you know, can that

723
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: can heal, they can they can do all kinds of things.

724
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: And also and I think it's a meditation you know

725
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: practice that you know, and we're self medicating when we're

726
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: doing this, so we know our body is just naturally

727
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: saying oh I need this right now, um, and it

728
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: helps you. And there's so many things that I think

729
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: people don't understand about the plant that the only people

730
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: that have you know, done it through anecdotal evidence can

731
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: explain to people. Um, it's it's it's a beautiful things.

732
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: But listen, listen. I do want to take you guys

733
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: into what we call the High five, and this is

734
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: fun five fund questions that we we run through with

735
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: you guys. So are you two ladies ready? Sure? Okay?

736
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: Are you guys familiar with it? It's not multiple choice,

737
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: I take it. No, but it's Valerie. We'll start with

738
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: you Valerie, and then we'll go to Marina. Right. Question

739
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: number one of the high five, how old were you

740
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: the first time you smoked? And where did you get

741
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: it from? Valerie? I got it from my brother and

742
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: he came back from Vietnam and I was sitting in

743
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: the room because you know, we all sat in a

744
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: circle and passed the joint. But I didn't even make

745
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: it the second round. It was a very powerful um.

746
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Canada again I was um. I think I was seventeen, yeah, sixteen.

747
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Cruise in Reno, Nevada, A right. Know. I lived in

748
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Reno for seven years and from San Francisco, fourth generation

749
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco, grew up in Santra Fell and then went

750
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: to to Reno, which was good, It's good. It was

751
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 1: a humbling experience than to Santra Fell, that beautiful view

752
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: every day. Oh my god. Then to go to Reno. Yeah,

753
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to ride a horse to

754
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: school and this is the wild West, what this is.

755
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: But you know, but many of the those experiences um

756
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: informist of what what we want, how we want to

757
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: grow our lives, what we don't want, what doesn't fit,

758
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and passion to help people from San Francisco and Marina.

759
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Then going out to out there, you know, do a

760
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: little bigger more land. Let you find yourself out there

761
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: as well. I see, I see what about you Marina

762
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: really quick. I was was thirty years ago. I was

763
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: fifteen years old. I got it from one of my

764
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: toiler friends to high school. Your mom said, said, that's

765
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: for the total friends from his homeboy little Your mom

766
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: said it was for the clos You're like, oh, I

767
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: like the cillo over. Don't tease me with a good time.

768
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Question number two. Valerie is the co founder and director

769
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: of wham at A Santa Cruz, California, Marina, an advocate

770
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: for cannabis for children. What is your favorite way to

771
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: use cannabis? Valerie, I like to smoke it. You got

772
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a joint. Yeah, yeah, but these are quick and nice,

773
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 1: and I know the person who made the oils. Of course,

774
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: it's the straw some of our So it was yeah,

775
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's just cruising scoring up there. Marina, what

776
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: about you. The fastest way to get rid of any

777
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: pain whatsoever is to smoke it. Yeah. Smoking, it's it's true.

778
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: And a joint as well, Yeah, joint joint. What is

779
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: my favorite there? It is question number three of the

780
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: high five Craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis? Valerie? Um?

781
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I think, um bring it into Paris and smoking it

782
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: on the balcony, um? Yeah, because probably? Yeah Paris. How

783
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: was Paris? I've never been there. I know it was.

784
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: It was you know, I guess a kid. It was

785
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: not a great grand hotel, but it's probably fine, but

786
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: it was. You were there though I never even step

787
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: foot over there. And and a Marina, you know, I

788
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: don't know. There wasn't really a crazy place. It's I

789
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: haven't experienced that yet. I still need to experience that.

790
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: That is funny. Okay, what is your go to munchies

791
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: after you get high? This is a problem. It doesn't

792
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: matter the refrigerator, that's a good answer. That's why I like,

793
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: I prefer the more sativa, which we don't say sativa,

794
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: but sativa style best for me. Answer ever on the show,

795
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to I know, I'm just gonna have to

796
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: agree because I know we lived together for a while,

797
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: so it was with with the family and the salmon.

798
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: We were Oh yeah, you can share a refrigerator. Yeah,

799
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: why not? Question number five of the high five. If

800
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who

801
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: would it be and why I'd smoke it with my brother? Again? Yes,

802
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: what was his name? Mark? Cleverani? Mark? He passed? She

803
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: said again, Yeah, how long ago? Eleven years? Oh wow?

804
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: Did he pass randomly of any cancer or anything like red?

805
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: It was? It was, it was not really random. I mean, yeah,

806
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: it was quick. So but yeah, my mom just died

807
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: and my father died when he was my uh like

808
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. So are you full on orphan? Kind of?

809
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: But I have I'm surrounded not really, because I'm surrounded

810
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: by you my family. Yeah, that's why I asked that,

811
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: because I the orphan. If I have nowhere to go,

812
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sleep in blues trailer with the guy named

813
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Joge for you. Guys can always come here and they'll

814
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: be food. I can promise that it's you. I'll tell

815
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: you what. If I look in the back in those woods,

816
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: back there, it looks like you are in the jungle.

817
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: It looks amazing back there. Yeah, it's sweet. I mean,

818
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: it looks absolutely beautiful outside of your house. So I

819
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: feel like you're in the in the in the beautiful

820
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: part of town, and you Marino, I would have to

821
00:50:53,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: say somebody like what Buddha, you know, the founder of Buddhism. Yes, wow,

822
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: the founder of Buddhism. I love that. It's a deep one.

823
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: Are you into Buddhism um? And I know, well, yes,

824
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: I know. I was born and raised Catholic. But you know,

825
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: once you start educating yourself, you know that's a big

826
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: world out there, and you know, unfortunately what the what

827
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church teaches us is not the only way.

828
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: So you kind of end up finding out you know,

829
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't work for you. And you

830
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: know that there's other higher entities or whoever you think

831
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: there is another higher entity, and it's just a big

832
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: world out there, and I just think that I could

833
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: probably be even more enlightened. If I were to smoke

834
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: with that, with that one higher entity, just you're taking

835
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: me back to the childhood as well as thinking of that.

836
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: And now I've been to the moss, the temple, Buddhist temples,

837
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: I means, I prayed, and the more random places, because

838
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: I too was raised in a very Catholic of some

839
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: way of you know, Catholic Church, the saints of this

840
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: and that, the St. Jude for this one, the Holy

841
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: Mary for that one, and then I just sort of

842
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: feel like, I think there's just so much more. I mean,

843
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: I personally do choose to claim Jesus Christ, but I

844
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: love all the other religions. Absolutely don't give that the candles, Joe,

845
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: don't give up all those candles therapy exactly, the candle

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Speaker 1: just in case, right, you never you know, like one

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Speaker 1: of those things like that is like what do I

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Speaker 1: think the candle saves anything or like that? But I

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Speaker 1: like it. I think it's spiritual and beautiful and I

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Speaker 1: do love I do love the religion, the just the

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Speaker 1: rituals that Catholics, you know, every everybody has it. I

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Speaker 1: don't like the thing and the up thing and to

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Speaker 1: sit down thing in church. Yeah, I understand. You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is I think that you know, you

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Speaker 1: you nailed it, Marina for me, you know, as as

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Speaker 1: when he said, you know, it's a big world. And

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Speaker 1: because I've always looked at it like you know, your

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Speaker 1: God is my God. Whether it's Jehovah, Buddha, christ Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's all the same to me. Because if my God

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Speaker 1: is everything, then your God is everything. And and I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that. So you know, I don't look at

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Speaker 1: it like, um, you know one thing. For me, I

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Speaker 1: look at it as you know, I personally I am

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Speaker 1: a nonddominational Christian, right, But but as I look at

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Speaker 1: the world and I go, gosh, you know, do I

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Speaker 1: believe in Buddha or Jehovah or or even Joseph Smith,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, I look at all these different things

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Speaker 1: and go they're all the same to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: one of our guys has got something to say. He's

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Speaker 1: I feel, whatever makes you a better person, then that's

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Speaker 1: what you should follow. I feel, make you feel like

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Speaker 1: that this person makes you a better person. Do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and to reach his own Yeah, well that's

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Speaker 1: that's comes show yourself, Pitt. He's He's name is Jason

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Speaker 1: Jon very well said thank you, because because that's it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's just, that's what we're here to do,

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Speaker 1: is right, just trying to be better people, trying to

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Speaker 1: we gotta get ready for deaths, so like it's all

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Speaker 1: it's all school to process. Yeah, she said, I get that.

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Speaker 1: I thanks Valerie, Marina. Is there anything that we forgot

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Speaker 1: that you guys want to get out there to our listeners,

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Speaker 1: to to any of your new fans. I mean, because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of our listeners are gonna love

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Speaker 1: you guys. Help out, just help somebody. You got enough,

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Speaker 1: we all have enough, just to share at least a little.

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Speaker 1: You're so sweet, You're so good, Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: It's wings, Valerie, and you know you're you're just you're

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Speaker 1: sharing them out there, You're giving them out there. And

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Speaker 1: I see the wings that you're doing, and also see

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Speaker 1: the wings that you guys are just sharing with everybody

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Speaker 1: and bringing hope to everybody. I love it. I find

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Speaker 1: it to be amazing. I find that everything you guys

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Speaker 1: are doing is amazing. Scope Thank you guys, and and

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Speaker 1: God bless you, and anything we can do to keep

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Speaker 1: working with you guys are moving with you love, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, what's your heart? See you guys, Bye Blue

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Speaker 1: bye two for now. Well there it is. Well, there

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Speaker 1: it is, guys. It's Cannabis Talk one on one and

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Speaker 1: remember this. If no one else loves you, we do,

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Speaker 1: and Marina does. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk

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