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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. I know probably

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Speaker 2: a lot of you had a long weekend. We were

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Speaker 2: here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you

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Speaker 2: can go grab the podcast as always, make sure you

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Speaker 2: never miss a minute. You can search out my name

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis, you can search out Buck Sexton. You can

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Speaker 2: be a part of the podcast network, and also you

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Speaker 2: can enjoy Iheart's actual news that does not have a

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Speaker 2: crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,

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Speaker 2: there are still a lot of crazy slants that are

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Speaker 2: coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it

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Speaker 2: because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this

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Speaker 2: is where we are. That on Sunday, CBS News could say, hey,

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Speaker 2: the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,

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Speaker 2: and then later in the day they could go have

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Speaker 2: a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they

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Speaker 2: praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared

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Speaker 2: a meme that the government authorities decided they did not like.

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Speaker 2: And I understand some of you are not active on

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Speaker 2: social media. For people who don't know, a meme, which

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Speaker 2: is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,

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Speaker 2: the more typically you are into memes is often just

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Speaker 2: a humorous take on something in the world of current events,

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Speaker 2: a picture, an image, a quick video. It's a joke.

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Speaker 2: And now they have decided that if jokes are considered

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Speaker 2: to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government

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Speaker 2: a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may

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Speaker 2: have posted online and so and so, let's actually listen,

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Speaker 2: because we didn't play this cut yesterday. Let's actually listen

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Speaker 2: to what it sounds like live on sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: This aired in America.

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Speaker 2: They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: have the German police joined on this raid.

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Speaker 1: This is cut eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's six oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we

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Speaker 3: were with state police as they raided this apartment in

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Speaker 3: northwest Germany just to put inside inside. Six armed officers

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Speaker 3: searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.

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Speaker 3: Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit

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Speaker 3: a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online. At

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Speaker 3: the exact same time, across Germany, more than fifty similar

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Speaker 3: raids played out, part of what prosecutors say is a

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Speaker 3: coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's important for you all to understand, because this is

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Speaker 2: what the left would do in this country if they

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Speaker 2: could a pre dawn raid of an apartment of a

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Speaker 2: German citizen because somebody in the government decided that they

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Speaker 2: had shared a racist meme. One of fifty simultaneous raids,

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Speaker 2: six with a camera crew in tow, six different government

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Speaker 2: This is true across Europe, and it is also a

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Speaker 2: mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it

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Speaker 2: is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish

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Speaker 2: they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they

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Speaker 2: did for a while. During COVID they got they got

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Speaker 2: really close to this. I mean when they were shutting

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Speaker 2: masking policy enough like morons, you know, meaning you're a

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Speaker 2: moron if you think that a mask policy in a

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Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a

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Speaker 2: society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few

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Speaker 2: things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,

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Speaker 2: this is always wait, actually I would step back for

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Speaker 2: a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and cover it objective, you know, objectively, just meaning, hey,

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Speaker 4: This should be like peta going to a dog fighting ring,

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Speaker 4: Like this should be the most heinous thing. If you're

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Speaker 4: the exchange of ideas and information as an American, you're

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Speaker 1: For journalists to go and.

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Speaker 4: Be like, oh wow, look at this, look at the

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Speaker 4: Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows you

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Speaker 4: in this country. So we know the whole thing, and honestly,

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Speaker 4: it's not about oh, there are some good ones and

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Speaker 4: bad ones. Everyone has opinions, everyone's pushing agendas. They either

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Speaker 2: This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering

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Speaker 2: more and more and certainly running a business. No one

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Speaker 2: at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at

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Speaker 2: at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.

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Speaker 2: Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we

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Speaker 2: have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities

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Speaker 2: over a joke that they posted on laws.

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Speaker 4: But this is why they're telling on themselves, and they

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Speaker 4: agree with this. This is the CBS is covering the

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Speaker 4: German meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking,

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Speaker 4: if only we could do this, we could have our

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Speaker 4: DEI back, and our affirmative action back, and our left

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Speaker 4: wing trans policies back, and our go down the list.

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Speaker 4: If only we could suppress speech the way they do

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Speaker 4: in Germany, we would be a better society. This also

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Speaker 4: leads to the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads

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Speaker 4: to the Holocaust, which is directly connected. Of course, it's

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Speaker 4: all the same mentality. So what we're showing you in

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Speaker 4: UK and other places. Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's

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Speaker 4: stock crime, straight up thought crime. There's no other way.

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Speaker 4: It's what were you thinking when you were standing in

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Speaker 4: that place? Here's what I was thinking. You're under arrest.

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Speaker 4: This is something that the that the left has tried

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Speaker 4: to import here. I think if Donald Trump had lost

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Speaker 4: have I mean, they would have been trying to lock

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Speaker 4: the things that would have happened. And a big, another

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Speaker 4: big part of this, specifically in the European context, clay

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Speaker 4: that I think very much translates into the American context.

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Speaker 1: What are the means? What is this stuff really about?

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Speaker 1: You know what it's about illegals coming into their or I.

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't even say illegals. In their case, they're legal. Actually

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Speaker 4: they're migrants to the government has allowed in Muslim migrants,

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Speaker 4: particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a number of war toward countries

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Speaker 4: coming into their countries, committing terrorist acts, raping women, sexually

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Speaker 4: haven't ever seen before, Meaning they're dealing with these spikes

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to we have we'll play

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Speaker 1: it later. The CEO of.

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Speaker 4: Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say, you want

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Speaker 4: to get it right now. I think let's do it

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Here's this, here's Alex karp Off Palenteer. It's

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Speaker 1: about a minute clip.

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Speaker 4: I really want you to listen to it, because this

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Speaker 4: is what the meme wars, and they're trying to shut

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Speaker 4: it down in Europe is actually all.

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Speaker 1: About play it.

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Speaker 5: You lived in Germany for half your life, yea, And

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Speaker 5: there is a big debate going on about the politics

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Speaker 5: in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is

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Speaker 5: support and you've even seen it over the weekend. Marco

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Speaker 1: While there have been questions about their.

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Speaker 5: Association with some supporting Nazis and other things, I'm curious

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go into the technical wits here,

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Speaker 6: but the real the problem in Germany is that somehow

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Speaker 6: the small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk

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Speaker 6: fifteen ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties,

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Speaker 6: have somehow tricked the larger parties into saying they will

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Speaker 6: with them, which basically, as a matter pragmatic power, shifts

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Speaker 6: all immigration policy to a small group of people that

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Speaker 6: literally will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani

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Speaker 6: immigrants to Germany of a seventy x seventy x propensity

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Speaker 6: and that in the last couple of weeks, every single

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Speaker 1: You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get

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Speaker 4: That's that's what all this is about. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Europeans who are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if

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Speaker 4: we didn't have the Muslim migrants we've taken in the

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Speaker 4: last we basically would have no sexual we'd have no

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Speaker 4: rapes in this country. I mean the number of be

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Speaker 4: almost partially no terrorism and no terrorism, maybe we don't

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Speaker 4: want more of this. The governments that did this, like

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Speaker 4: you know, one world government paradigm play. They sold out

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Speaker 1: Is that guy? That guy is annoying.

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Speaker 4: But that's why they're rising in some of these countries

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Speaker 4: because people people actually don't want to be mowed down

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be mowed down in a Christmas market,

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Speaker 4: and they don't want women to be gang raped in

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Speaker 4: the public square on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: That's okay that.

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Speaker 2: They're allowed to not want that, yes, And also cultures

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Speaker 2: aren't all equal like cultures inside. I think this is

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Speaker 2: my basement time in Afghanis. Afghanistan is an inferior culture

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Speaker 2: to the United States in every respect, okay, in every respect,

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Speaker 2: and it's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,

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Speaker 2: which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,

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Speaker 2: decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which

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Speaker 2: is actually the antithesis.

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Speaker 1: Of what news media should be doing.

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Speaker 2: The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and

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Speaker 2: the culture of Germany is better than the culture of

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Speaker 2: many of the people coming in from foreign countries. And

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Speaker 2: they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to

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Speaker 2: Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which

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Speaker 2: you're not allowed to say.

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Speaker 4: And now the low t technocrats in the EU who

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Speaker 4: have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on

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Speaker 4: these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're

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Speaker 4: trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,

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Speaker 4: for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police

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Speaker 4: and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things

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Speaker 4: By the way, can you see I mean the parallels

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Speaker 2: And I'm regardless of what political beliefs Elon had. And remember,

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Speaker 2: But Whoopy Goldberg thinks, Hey, this whole SpaceX thing is unnecessary.

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Speaker 7: Listen, I want to know when did I say, hey,

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Speaker 2: To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more

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Speaker 4: There are very few things that we could all agree on.

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Speaker 4: The forever job is is. You cannot beat that in

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Speaker 2: you you moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you

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Speaker 2: started your own company. You you went on and talked

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Speaker 2: about boobs like you know, you're like, you're not the

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Speaker 2: average cat. I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance

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Speaker 2: than most people, but I just I would I would

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Speaker 2: go insane if you told me, hey, you're a government employee,

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Speaker 2: you make three and a half percent more for the

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Speaker 2: rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: Like I could not know, But I'm telling you there

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Speaker 4: there are so many people the same way, Clay that

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Speaker 4: you know cults. One of the reasons cults appeal to

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Speaker 4: people so much is because there are people who really

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Speaker 4: want to be told what to do. Yeah, it's there's

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Speaker 4: a freedom to that, right, there's all tell me I'll

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Speaker 4: do it. Give yourself over completely to that, absolutely, And

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Speaker 4: and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service mindset of

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Speaker 4: once you're in the Clay. When I told I left,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of complicated because I was at

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Speaker 4: the Intellience Division, but I was still I was a CIA,

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Speaker 4: So I had to quit Intel Division and quit the CIA,

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Speaker 4: you know I did. But when I told the CI

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Speaker 4: that I was leaving to go work for Glenn Beck

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Speaker 4: at the Blaze, you know, when he started the Blaze.

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Speaker 4: This was at the founding of the Blaze dot com

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Speaker 4: and Glenn's network and everything else, which obviously he's done

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Speaker 4: great with. They thought I was insane. They were just like,

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Speaker 4: what are you. They're like, you're leaving that You're leaving

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Speaker 4: a cool job and a guaranteed six figures for the

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Speaker 4: next you know, twenty five years and great health care

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Speaker 4: benefits to go work at some startup you could be

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Speaker 4: fired at. I fired from in six months, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, yes, but we're not the average catman. It's

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Speaker 4: certainly not the average civil servant. That's the That's the point.

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Speaker 4: A lot of them. They want to just stay with

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Speaker 4: that security forever, and so the the notion that that

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Speaker 4: could be taken away if they're saying there are there

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Speaker 4: are shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,

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Speaker 4: just the idea that it could be cut.

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Speaker 1: Their whole quarter percentage.

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Speaker 2: Do you think of federal employees could go and the

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Speaker 2: average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.

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Speaker 2: Leave aside the media out Honest to god, I would

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be worried about the functions

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Speaker 2: of the federal government. Again, we're excluding military here, Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: I know if we had one hundred thousand person army

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Speaker 2: like China would invade. We're excluding the military because I

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Speaker 2: got some people who like, well, I work, military is

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Speaker 2: its own thing. It's a separate We're talking federal civil service,

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Speaker 2: like bureaucrats eighty percent, I wouldn't be worried. Take eighty Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to

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Speaker 2: try to flag down a civil servant when you have

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Speaker 2: when you have a need of them, you know, try

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Speaker 2: to get through one of these agencies. Somehow there's nothing

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Speaker 2: but people working there and no one seems to do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think certainly half. I would be stunned if you

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Speaker 2: couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea. And

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Speaker 2: Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability while

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Speaker 2: firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about how much just complete waste there was inside

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Speaker 2: of Twitter, and why would the federal government not be

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Speaker 2: far worse than that?

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Speaker 4: But again, I think what you're getting at when you

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Speaker 4: lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success

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Speaker 4: of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,

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Speaker 4: which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns

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Speaker 4: out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat

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Speaker 4: not just to the system, but to this sense of

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Speaker 4: intelligence and sense of security with the way things are

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Speaker 4: that so many people of the left have, like they

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Speaker 4: never want to admit that. It turns out the government

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Speaker 4: is this splerotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.

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Speaker 4: So it's very hard to get them to see what's

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Speaker 4: really because the more successful this is, the stronger the

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Speaker 4: arguments become for why can't we make all aspects of

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Speaker 4: the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's

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Speaker 4: more efficient and accountable? There's no good answers to that,

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Speaker 4: of course, other than it is what it is. Well,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to

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Speaker 4: not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves

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Speaker 4: because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,

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Speaker 4: it is deep, it is smelly, it's.

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Speaker 2: Rough, and there's an entire cottage industry. Sixty minutes we

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Speaker 2: played you the raid. Sixty Minutes also had remember they

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Speaker 2: had the the anonymous federal employee like talking about, Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, what's gonna happen without this huge federal infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: They're doing all of that work as well. I think

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Speaker 2: they were a contractor, by the way. I think that

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Speaker 2: came out afterwards that that was a USA contractor, not

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Speaker 2: even a full time employee. But I'll go back and

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Speaker 2: check on that one.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the brilliant and incredible work that Preborn

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Speaker 4: is doing for a moment. The pro life community is

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Speaker 4: so incredibly proud of what Preborn has done for decades now,

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Speaker 4: and they rely on us because unfortunately, even the aftermath

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Speaker 4: of Roe v. Wade being overturned, number of abortion clinics

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Speaker 4: has actually increased, and the availability of the abortion pill

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Speaker 4: is a big issue for those who are trying to

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Speaker 4: save tiny babies lives. So what does preborn do they

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Speaker 4: get right there on the front lines. They tell hey,

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Speaker 4: if you're a mom, if you have a crisis pregnancy,

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Speaker 4: come in, get help, have people that can support you,

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Speaker 4: and they'll give you an ultrasound. That ultrasound is the

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Speaker 4: beginning of this process because when that mom to be

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Speaker 4: sees the little tiny baby growing inside her womb on

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Speaker 4: that ultrasound, when she sees that heartbeat, everything else tends

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Speaker 4: to fall into place. She understands this is a beautiful

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Speaker 4: life that I'm going to give. This is my son,

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Speaker 4: this is my daughter. Preborn is doing this mission day

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Speaker 4: in and day out. It's so important. They're saving the

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Speaker 4: lives of unborn babies. But they need you, They need

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Speaker 4: the pro life community. I've donated Preborn, so many of

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Speaker 4: you have, but I know there are others who can

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Speaker 4: ultrasound and could be the difference between life and death

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Speaker 4: b u c K sponsored by Preborn. I just wanted

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Speaker 4: to take a moment here, Clay. I'm sure you saw it.

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Speaker 4: These uh, these videos of the Toronto of the plane crash,

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Speaker 4: the Delta crowdy. Now, it's one of these crashes where

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Speaker 4: you could say, everybody walked out of this plane. There's

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Speaker 4: some some injuries, eighteen injuries, but nobody. We have the

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Speaker 4: centator right now. Oh okay, Well, I'll come back and talk.

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Speaker 4: I want to get into the analysis of the Delta

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Speaker 4: plane crash. I've been texting my pilot, friends and family

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Speaker 4: all morning about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 4: Center of cotton. Appreciate Thank you being with us, sir.

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Speaker 4: I know you got a new book out, Seven Things

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Speaker 4: you Can't Say about China. Why don't we start with that?

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Speaker 4: Actually before we got a lot of things to run

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Speaker 4: through with you today. But what are some things you

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Speaker 4: can't say about Why can't we just say whatever we

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Speaker 4: want about China. This is in Germany. They're not knocking

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Speaker 4: down doors for means yet.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys for having me on to talk about seven

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Speaker 8: things you Can't Say about China. I focused in the

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Speaker 8: book's title on the censorship aspect of it, because it

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Speaker 8: highlights the pervasive influence and leverage that China has throughout America.

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Speaker 8: You know, you might recall five years ago, I think

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Speaker 8: five years ago this week in The Winner of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 8: that I first said the Wuhan coronavirus probably came from

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Speaker 8: that super lab in Wuhan, not from the food market.

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Speaker 8: I expected Chinese communist officials to condemn me for that

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Speaker 8: and say that it was false. But if you recall,

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Speaker 8: it was also piled on by lots of the American

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Speaker 8: elites Washington Posts, CNN, The New York Times, and others,

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Speaker 8: in part because so many American elites are met ready

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Speaker 8: to man the ramparts on behalf of communist China. So

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Speaker 8: the seven things you can't say, and I go through

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Speaker 8: each one of these chapter by chapter, is that China

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Speaker 8: is an evil empire. China's preparing for war, China is

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Speaker 8: waging in economic world war. China has infiltrated our society,

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Speaker 8: China has infiltrated our government. China is coming for our kids,

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Speaker 8: and China could win. It's that economic world war that

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Speaker 8: has really got China to the point of power and influence.

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Speaker 8: Of course, one it underwrites the massive military build up,

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Speaker 8: the largest in history, that allows China prepare for war,

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Speaker 8: but it also gives them vast influence in American society

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Speaker 8: and business, education and cultural institutions in our governments as well.

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Speaker 8: A simple and maybe well known example is Hollywood. When

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Speaker 8: was the last time you saw a Chinese villain in

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Speaker 8: a Hollywood movie? It's been a very long time, because

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Speaker 8: when Brad Pitt made Seven Years in Tibet in nineteen

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Speaker 8: ninety seven, China came down on him in the studio

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Speaker 8: like a ton of bricks, and studio executives knew from

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Speaker 8: that point forward you can't say anything bad about China,

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Speaker 8: otherwise they'll cut off access to the lucrative and massive

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Speaker 8: Chinese movie market. But guys, did you know? Because I

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Speaker 8: think a lot of Americans don't know that every network

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Speaker 8: except for Fox News is owned by or affiliated with

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Speaker 8: one of those Hollywood studios. ABC and Disney, CBS and

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Speaker 8: Paramount NBC and MSNBC by Comcast, Universal, CNN by Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 8: Is a surprise those networks host a presidential debate and

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Speaker 8: don't ask a single question about China that Fox News

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Speaker 8: is consistently the network that is strongest on China, the

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Speaker 8: most clear eyed about the breathday post. I don't think

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Speaker 8: it is. And that's replicated across so many segments of

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Speaker 8: our society, whether it's corporate America, Wall Street, professional sports,

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Speaker 8: higher education, all designed to protect China as it goes

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Speaker 8: forward with its campaign to replace America as the world's

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Speaker 8: dominant military and economic superpower.

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Speaker 2: I love everything you just laid out, and it is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I never really thought about the overlap between the news

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Speaker 2: business and the Hollywood studios where I came from. Senator Cotton,

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Speaker 2: you may well remember world of sports. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: anything like the NBA's bending of the need to China.

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Speaker 2: They would rip American institutions to the high heavens. It's

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Speaker 2: actually how they've destroyed, in my opinion, much of their brand.

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Speaker 2: People love basketball. They don't like being lectured by multimillionaire

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Speaker 2: athletes about how awful America is while they simultaneously bend

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Speaker 2: the need to China. I saw recent reports that the

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Speaker 2: NBA may be about to go back to China.

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Speaker 1: What does that impact?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how much you talk about it

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Speaker 2: in the book, but I think it's incredibly impactful what

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Speaker 2: they have allowed the NBA to do, which is rip

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Speaker 2: America to shreds while saying nothing at all critical of

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Speaker 2: China because they're afraid of what China will do to them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I write about it some links. Again, I think

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Speaker 8: it's important that Americans know that, you know, it's not

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Speaker 8: just you know, Chinese spies in Washington who are trying

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Speaker 8: to steal intelligence or military secrets. The threat again is

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Speaker 8: pervasive and present throughout all of our lives. And I

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Speaker 8: write about professional sports and specifically the NBA because the

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Speaker 8: NBA is the most popular American sport in China, and

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Speaker 8: China is the NBA's largest overseas market. And if you're

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Speaker 8: called back in twenty nineteen, before China finally crack down

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Speaker 8: once and for all of Hong Kong and violated its

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Speaker 8: promises to Hong Kongers have freedom and autonomy for fifty

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Speaker 8: for the Rockets in particular, they stopped selling Rockets merchandise

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Speaker 8: The team didn't support them, the league didn't support them.

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Speaker 8: Social justice warriors Lebron James and Stephen Kerr, who are

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Speaker 8: In fact, they condemned them. He's misinformed or that he

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Speaker 8: re educated along the lines of what China would do. ESPN,

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Speaker 8: but also again a corporate ability of Disney that has

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Speaker 8: massive operations in China, didn't even cover the situation. But

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Speaker 8: China still wasn't vacated. They demanded that Maury be fired.

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Speaker 8: Adam Silver said not, but strangely enough, within a year

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Speaker 8: back on TV in China, And that's not the only example.

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Speaker 8: The Brooklyn Nets CEO who came to his defense, one

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Speaker 8: who came to his defense quote unquote, resigned after just

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Speaker 8: the Chinese real retail giant Ali Baba and is a

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Speaker 8: frequent apologist for the Chinese Communist Party. Of course, that's

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Speaker 8: not the only case too, involving the NBA. Remember our

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Speaker 8: friend Nus Cancer Freedom. Yes, had a long time been

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Speaker 8: a voice on behalf of ordinary Turkish people who were

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Speaker 8: administration said were suffering from a genocide. Two million, maybe

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Speaker 8: three million had gone into re education camps and indoctrination

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Speaker 8: out the plight of the Wigers, or he stood up

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Speaker 8: And what happened. He was cut not too soon after

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Speaker 8: This is just an example again of the pervasive influence

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Speaker 8: that China has in our country and in our society,

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Speaker 8: and it goes far beyond economic titles. Well, every cultural

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Speaker 8: institution in America faces this. You know, you've probably heard

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Speaker 8: of sister city programs that you know, American city's partner

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Speaker 8: with foreign cities. And that's fine if your foreign city

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Speaker 8: is you know, I don't know, in Spain or South

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Speaker 8: Korea or something, but in China comes with strings, and

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Speaker 8: the strings are they want to turn you into a

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Speaker 8: day facto lobbyist on behalf of communist China, not just

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Speaker 8: related to your particular city, Like, oh, you know, call

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Speaker 8: your congressman so you can get a visa to come

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Speaker 8: travel to your sister city in China. No, No, tell

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Speaker 8: your congressman that he should stop speaking out about Hong Kong. Ar.

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Speaker 4: We're speaking to Senator Tom Cotton. He's got a new book.

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Speaker 4: He's got a new book out today, Seven things you

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Speaker 4: Can't say about China. Can go get your copy Center

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Speaker 4: of Cotton. You've you've been getting some headlines on the

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Speaker 4: Hill and some other places. Charlie Kirk tweeted out something

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Speaker 4: about how or I guess we call posting it all

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Speaker 4: on X You've got some concerns. This is the first

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Speaker 4: that I've heard you've had concerns about any of the

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Speaker 4: Trump nominees. But it has to do with what we're

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Speaker 4: talking about a bit, because it would be the under

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Speaker 4: Secretary of Defense for policy at the Pentagon, Bridge Colby,

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Speaker 4: I know you've addressed this a little bit, but I'm

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Speaker 4: just wondering if you could for all of us address

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Speaker 4: Is this just you want to hear more from Bridge

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Speaker 4: about where he stands now on some issues and what

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Speaker 4: can you tell us about this reporting that you have

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Speaker 4: some real reservations about a very senior level Trump Pentagon appointee.

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Speaker 4: Full disclosure, I've known Bridge for twenty years, so I

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Speaker 4: might be able to help fill in some gaps of

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Speaker 4: my own here, But go.

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Speaker 8: Ahead, sure, Well, with any nominee, but especially nominees in

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Speaker 8: critical national security roles at Defense or State or the

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Speaker 8: Intelligence Committee, we always want to probe their views and

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Speaker 8: see if those are aligned with the president. The president's priorities.

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Speaker 8: Of course, one of the President's highest priorities in one

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Speaker 8: of mine's at the very first day I got into

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Speaker 8: the Senate is torn from acquiring nuclear weapons. You know,

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Speaker 8: when I came to the Senate, President Obama was in

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Speaker 8: the final days of negotiating the nuclear deal with the

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Speaker 8: Ran And in fact, that was the first time I

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Speaker 8: ever spoke to Donald Trump. He was a new candidate,

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Speaker 8: and he called me and I wanted to express his

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Speaker 8: thanks and admiration for the work I was doing fighting

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Speaker 8: against that deal and fighting against a nuclear run. So

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Speaker 8: with all these nominees, if they play any role and

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Speaker 8: trying to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, I

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Speaker 8: and other senators are going to want to have questions

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Speaker 8: and our meetings with them and our hearings with them

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Speaker 8: to ensure they're aligned with the president's priorities. That's not

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Speaker 8: out of the ordinary. That's pretty customary. If you look

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Speaker 8: at the stuff that's gone on over the last two

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Speaker 8: or three weeks, guys, you can see, for instance, that

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Speaker 8: Bobby Kennedy, who had been pro choice his entire life,

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Speaker 8: where I met with him, and then when you testify

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Speaker 8: that the committee said that he would support President Trump's

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Speaker 8: pro life policies, so you have a.

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Speaker 1: Not to go.

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Speaker 4: It's sorry, we're going to come in to break it

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Speaker 4: sounds like you have questions for Bridge. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: know he he's very aligned, I think with you on China,

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Speaker 4: for example, which is what the book is about. I

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Speaker 4: think you could say he's a China Hawk for sure.

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Speaker 4: But on the Iranian issue you have questions. But if

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Speaker 4: the answers to those questions are satisfactory in line with

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Speaker 4: President Trump and with his agenda for national security in

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Speaker 4: the Middle East and beyond, you don't have a problem

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Speaker 4: with the credentials or the background or anything like that.

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Speaker 8: I look forward to speaking to him about you know,

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Speaker 8: what he's written about Iran in the past, where he thinks,

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Speaker 8: now how he sees that fitting in with President Trump's

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Speaker 8: declared priority of stopping a run from getting nuclear weapons again.

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Speaker 8: It's a common part of the process that we did

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Speaker 8: with Bobby Kennedy that we did.

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Speaker 4: How do you how do you?

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Speaker 1: How do you?

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Speaker 4: I mean you served by the way, how do you

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Speaker 4: think Secretary Headsets? Just real quick, I wanted to know

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Speaker 4: what do you think about Secretary Hegsets. So far, Clay

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Speaker 4: and I have been having fun talking about just some

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Speaker 4: of the visuals.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a refreshing change

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Speaker 8: to have a secretary who's a little bit closer to

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Speaker 8: our age and therefore closer to the soldier's age, who

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Speaker 8: was himself of that. And we've had very fine secretaries

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Speaker 8: of Defense who are in their sixties or seventies. But

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Speaker 8: it obviously offers a different perspective. And I think he's

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Speaker 8: already taken some steps to change some policies that were

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Speaker 8: implemented in the Biden era that were foolish, that diminished readiness,

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Speaker 8: that focused our troops on trivialities or distractions as opposed

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Speaker 8: to being ready to fight and win our nation's wars

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Speaker 8: and therefore preventing them from happening in the first place.

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Speaker 8: Now he's got longer term challenges that are going to

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Speaker 8: take years for all of us to tackle, like rebuilding

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Speaker 8: our industrial capacity, making sure that we have the kind

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Speaker 8: of next generation fighters that can counteract China, that our

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Speaker 8: ship buildings in a place where we encounter at China

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Speaker 8: as well. But on the things that he can do

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Speaker 8: on the first days in the job, I think he's

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Speaker 8: off to a good start. For instance, getting the army

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Speaker 8: and the Marine Corps and the Air Force and the

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Speaker 8: Navy focused back on fighting our nation's wars, not social

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Speaker 8: engineering or not making sure they're using the right pronouns

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Speaker 8: or using addressing climate change in the way they train

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Speaker 8: and so forth.

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Speaker 2: We're trying, as you know, to get a cease fire

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Speaker 2: and a resolution in Ukraine with Russia, and we just

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Speaker 2: had Marco Rubio talking with the Russians face to face

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Speaker 2: for the first time in years in Saudi Arabia. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious what you think about those conversations. And in particular,

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Speaker 2: there has been a discussion that one of the demands

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Speaker 2: might be an election in Ukraine, which Zelenski has not

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Speaker 2: allowed since the invasion happened. Should there be a Ukrainian election,

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Speaker 2: should it be connected to the idea of a ceasefire

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Speaker 2: in peace? How would you assess where we are right now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean, guys, I think Joe Biden left us all

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Speaker 8: a mess. That's the bottom line. Joe Biden's weakness tempted

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Speaker 8: Putin to invade in the first place. Biden pussy footed

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Speaker 8: around for three years, and I think in retrospect it's

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Speaker 8: clear that his plan was to lose. Just wait till

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Speaker 8: after the election, and that's what President and all of

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Speaker 8: us have to deal with right now. And I think

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Speaker 8: what he wants to what the President's trying to achieve

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Speaker 8: is what Javan said in Europe last week, Ukraine's sovereign

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Speaker 8: independence and preventing a third invasion of Ukraine in the future.

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Speaker 8: So to do that, we need to have a lasting

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Speaker 8: truce that will allow Ukraine to get back on its feet,

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Speaker 8: as you say, to have elections again, to have long

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Speaker 8: term prosperity. I think that's an important point as well.

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Speaker 8: You know, Lindsay Graham has floated the idea of having

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Speaker 8: a long term minerals deal with Ukraine that would give them,

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Speaker 8: you know, one pillar of long term economic growth, also

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Speaker 8: giving us what we need, which is more independence from

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Speaker 8: China to acquire the kind of rare earth minerals that

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Speaker 8: are necessary in a modern electronic economy. Now, is this

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Speaker 8: going to be something that everyone is satisfied with? Is

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Speaker 8: this what one might have hoped for, you know, a

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Speaker 8: year or two, three years ago? Probably not, But it's

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Speaker 8: what Joe Biden has left us with. And we've got

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Speaker 8: to do the very best we can to try to

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Speaker 8: get that durable truth that protects Ukraine's sovereign independence and

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Speaker 8: doesn't lead to a third invasion of Ukraine as we've

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Speaker 8: had the first and second invasion under the last two

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Speaker 8: Democratic presidents.

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Speaker 2: The book is Seven Things you Can't Say About China.

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Speaker 2: Go check it out, Senator Tom Cotton. We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to talking to you again sometime soon. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the book tour. Thank you again. The book Seven Things

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Speaker 2: you Can't Say about China. That was Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton.

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Speaker 2: Go check it out. Look, we've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: able to make the right policy decisions. How's your historical literacy?

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Speaker 2: What kind of historical knowledge do you have? Would you

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Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get.

868
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: Might be a senator, might be a president, might be

869
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: a governor, might be a discussion about whether the Egyptians

870
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: really built the pyramids or not. Buck, My confusion between

871
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: Yetti's bigfoots abominable Snowman's has provoked great disturbance in the

872
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: Clay and Buck force. Don't leave Sasquatch off the list,

873
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Sir Sasquatches as well. But I said, conspiracy theory. I

874
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: just don't buy that Egypt and the Egyptians, with their

875
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: modern technology at that time, built all the pyramids and

876
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: there's not something else going on that we don't know about.

877
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: But as I said, would likely be the case. Eric

878
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee has called in. He is an ancient Near

879
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Eastern archaeologist. Explain Eric, how you become a ancient Near

880
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Eastern archaeologist. But this is just evidence of what we

881
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: talk about, Buck, Whatever topic we discuss, there is someone

882
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: who is an expert out there listening.

883
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 9: Well, lots of school, to put it briefly, all.

884
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: Right, so how disgusted? Eric asked him a question before

885
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: you get to the pyramid thing.

886
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, have you ever been at a at

887
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: a tomb of one of these pharaohs and had a

888
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: little voice the back of your head like, I hope

889
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: there's not some weird curse here or does that never

890
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: cross your mind?

891
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 9: No, but it reminds me of that Time Life book

892
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 9: series commercial where the guy put took metal, made it

893
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 9: into the shape of an ancient symbol and pointed it

894
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 9: at stone engs and then he felt the energy go

895
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 9: to his body.

896
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: Oh okay, cool, all right, Clay, you had a real

897
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 4: question about the Pyramids now commercial.

898
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 9: That's a joke. Yeah, all right.

899
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: So when you hear someone like me say, I just

900
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: don't buy it. I don't buy that they had the technology.

901
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: I think something else is going on here. First of all,

902
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 2: you probably hear it a decent amount because there's lots

903
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: of people who are morons like me. But your reaction

904
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: is what and you feel that we should know what

905
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: so that we are better informed.

906
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 9: Well, so, as far as the archaeological evidence around the

907
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 9: Great Pyramids, they've excavated the remains of curs in ramps.

908
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 9: The quarries are nearby, some of them which with partially

909
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 9: quarried stone still in place, as well as they've excavated

910
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 9: the breweries, the bakeries for the workers, the barracks where

911
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 9: they lived. They've also recently, just in the last few years,

912
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 9: found some papyri the actually the most ancient inscribed pyrie

913
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 9: in existence near the Red Sea, that are bureaucratic documents

914
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 9: describing a lot of background on worker groups. You know,

915
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 9: it wasn't the slaves that built the Great Pyramids. It

916
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 9: was people from various villages around ancient Egypt that worked

917
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 9: as corvet labor and came during opportune times of the

918
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 9: year where they didn't have response agricultural responsibilities and came

919
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 9: and worked and sometimes even left graffiti how they were

920
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 9: proud that they had built this particular part of the pyramids.

921
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: So you have zero doubt of that the Egyptians built

922
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: the pyramid using their modern technology at the time. Ramps

923
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: circling the pyramids. Is there anything you believe that would

924
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: be considered controversial in the Eastern European sorry, in the

925
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: archaeological universe, in which you.

926
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: Are an expert.

927
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: In other words, Buck asked me, did I believe in conspiracies?

928
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm skeptical about the pyramids. Is there

929
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: anything that you believe that would be considered controversial in

930
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: your chosen field? Or are there any conspiracies in other

931
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: fields that you believe in? Or as a man of

932
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: rigor science and archaeology, do you believe in nothing like that.

933
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 9: Usually the controversies are surrounding like there's a very ancient

934
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 9: temple that's been ex civated in Turkey. Uh, I'm going

935
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 9: to probably mess up the name, but it's a go

936
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 9: bleaky tet bay. And the debates are when when it predates, like, uh,

937
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 9: the invention of writing, and there's only like symbols and

938
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 9: various stone shapes and things to deal with before we're writing.

939
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 9: That's when you get into a lot of the more

940
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 9: like controversial theories and people really debating about the meaning

941
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 9: of certain temples are and things like that, and that

942
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 9: that comes that comes out in articles and in conferences

943
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 9: where people yell at each other and things like that.

944
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: So do you have any conspiracy theories? Is there anything

945
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: you believe in that you think is controversial? In the

946
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: larger world like Blackness Monster, Bigfoot, any of this stuff.

947
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 9: Well, I've always found the Lockness Monster kind of intriguing.

948
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 9: I don't. I've been to Scotland, but not that far

949
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 9: north that I've seen the locks, so I can't say

950
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 9: for myself. But I did have that Time Life book

951
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 9: series as a kid, Mysteries of the Unknown, So there

952
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 9: we go.

953
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: I had that. What about curses? Do you buy into

954
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: the concept of Buck asked you, But like, do you

955
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: think there's anything to the idea of a curse in

956
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: any way?

957
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: Tut? Wasn't there a King Tut curse when they went

958
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: into his tomb?

959
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: And then people?

960
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: And was it Howard Carter who found it? Like there's

961
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: all these different things. Do you buy into the concept

962
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: of a curse?

963
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 9: Well, I know they they wrote them down, yes, As

964
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 9: to whether they were effective or not, I mean then

965
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 9: you have to then that gets into believing whether the

966
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 9: ancient Egyptian gods will actually had power and existed. So no,

967
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 9: I don't.

968
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: All righty sir, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.

969
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining us.

970
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: And it's so fun that we have so many brilliant

971
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: and varied experts in the in this audience, Clay, I

972
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: just want to point something out because I love when

973
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 4: I get to just, you know, dogpile on you with

974
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 4: the audience if you get something wrong. But I'm also here.

975
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm a man of honor, and I'm here to tell

976
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: you that you are correct that the Himalayan creature is

977
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: referred to as as Yeti and sasquatch. This is according

978
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: to Google AI. So argue with Google AI. The abominable snowman. Okay, well,

979
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: abominable snowman is here, YETI is Himalayan. It's not all

980
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 4: the same though, as the point, you were right about.

981
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: That, that's what I thought.

982
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: I'm getting abominable snowman. I cannot believe we're talking about this, guys.

983
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 4: I promise tomorrow I'll get back to saving the republic.

984
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 4: Abominable snowman is for here, Bigfoot obviously here, Sasquatch here.

985
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: There's apparently, in Florida folklore. As a Floridian, I like

986
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 4: to learn about my state something called the skunk Ape.

987
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 4: According to AI, I'd never even heard of this before.

988
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: There is something I can't even read it on the

989
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: air because it's spelled fo uk monster in West Virginia.

990
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of this? I don't know how

991
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: even say that. I don't want to try to say

992
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: it on the ido sounds it's like something I shouldn't say.

993
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: And then anyway, there's lots of variations of this, but

994
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: cultures all over the world have names for this version

995
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: of what we would call what there's.

996
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: A good question that it is like just a fun

997
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: topic if you need a dinner table conversation. What is

998
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: the last truly shocking discovery that has occurred in America

999
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: or in the world that Epstein's suicide?

1000
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, how shocking? How shocking do we

1001
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: have to go?

1002
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like something that was earth shattering?

1003
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: You know?

1004
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: For instance, there's this report that there is a three

1005
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: percent chance, sorry everybody, that an asteroid's gonna hit Earth

1006
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty two, Right, I would say that an

1007
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: asteroid striking Earth. Now you can say, COVID whatever. What

1008
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: is the last truly earth shattering discovery? In some way?

1009
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: In like I can't think of anything.

1010
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: In my mind.

1011
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: Like obviously, like we all have phones and we can

1012
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 2: walk around that. In nineteen sixty if you'd been like, hey,

1013
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna have the entire world's history in the palm

1014
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: of your hand, and you'll be able to access any

1015
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: information like that would have been fairly remarkable. But I

1016
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: think people could have predicted it right. It wasn't crazy,

1017
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: like what is the last thing that happened where you

1018
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: were like, holy crap, I can't believe we now know

1019
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: this and we didn't know this before.

1020
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: I I'm probably stepping into it here because I'm not

1021
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: as up on this as I should be. But I

1022
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: do think that there's you know, you know who was

1023
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: talking about it recently was Mel Gibson actually, and I

1024
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: was listening to mel Gibson to discuss it the shroud

1025
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: of Turin and how it is from with radiocarbon dating,

1026
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: it is from the period of Jesus, and that is.

1027
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: The newest report.

1028
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm not an expert, you know, I'm not when I

1029
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: say expert, like, I'm not even up on all the details.

1030
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: But I do know that there was a little bit

1031
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: of a whoa, this is actually from the right time

1032
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: period for this to have been a real artifact. I

1033
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: think that whole story is I thought it was cool

1034
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: I read all about that.

1035
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of interest in ancient history.

1036
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: For instance, they just found the oldest structure in London

1037
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: that the Romans built, right underneath a thirty story building

1038
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 2: that they're building. I just came back from Israel, where

1039
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: you know, anybody who actually travels to the Middle East

1040
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: or Europe or certainly Italy or you recognize how fragile

1041
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: and young our country is. But when you're looking at

1042
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: walls that are thousands and thousands of years old that

1043
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: were built in biblical times and pre biblical recorded history,

1044
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: I just I'm trying to think, like, what was the

1045
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: last earth shattering discovery that was made that changed the

1046
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: way that people can sieve of the world around them

1047
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: and have You can tweet me because there may be

1048
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: some great answers. I can't think of any, right, I mean,

1049
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: there are things that we do that are remarkable, like

1050
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: again the phone and the information all being in the

1051
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: palm of our hands. But I mean something we discovered

1052
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: and people were in display. For instance, you know back

1053
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundreds, it would have been kind of

1054
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: remarkable when people started saying, hey, you know, there's a.

1055
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: Whole new world.

1056
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: If you just get on the ocean and you keep

1057
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: going far enough, you come to a new land and

1058
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: no one has ever really been there before, and it's

1059
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: a truly new world. What is the last thing that

1060
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: was at an earth shattering discovery? I can't even think

1061
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: of one.

1062
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Well, we'll put it out there for everybody.

1063
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: You can let Clay handle some of these to close

1064
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: us out here in just a second. You know what

1065
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: you know from history for sure? Gold has been that

1066
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:01,240
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1067
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: And in an era where we have to be very

1068
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 4: concerned about not just government spending but the effects of

1069
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 4: inflation month in and month out, diversifying a portion of

1070
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: your savings into gold just makes a lot of sense,

1071
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: and that's the way to preserve your hard earned savings.

1072
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: Birch Gold Group is who we recommend to help you

1073
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1074
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1075
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Speaker 4: in gold for years now, and I recently just added

1076
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Speaker 4: to my gold holdings from Birch Gold. I did exactly

1077
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Speaker 4: what you do. I called them up, I told them

1078
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Speaker 4: what I'm looking for, and I got some gold bars.

1079
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you where I'm keeping them, because

1080
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: obviously that's a secret. But I got my gold bars

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Speaker 4: from Birch Gold Group to get you a free copy

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Speaker 4: of a new forward, a new report about gold in

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Speaker 4: the Trump era. You can just go right now, text

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Speaker 4: my name Buck to the number ninety eight ninety eight

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Speaker 4: ninety eight. That's text my name Buck to ninety eight

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Speaker 4: ninety eight ninety eight, or go online to Birch Gold

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Speaker 4: dot com Buck. That's Birch gold dot com slash buck.

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Speaker 4: There's no obligation, only information