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Speaker 1: not slow you down. All right, guys, welcome to a

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Speaker 1: brand new episode of The Daniel Cormier Show.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: My guest is one of the most accomplished athletes that

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Speaker 1: I've ever been around. But I don't want this to

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Speaker 1: be the conversation. When people hear the name Henry Suhudo,

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Speaker 1: they think about a lot of winning. They think Olympic gold,

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Speaker 1: they think UFC titles. Honestly, they think Triple C, right,

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Speaker 1: because he's told his time and time again who Triple

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Speaker 1: C is. But before all of that, right, there was

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Speaker 1: a kid that grew up in chaos, right his family

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Speaker 1: fighting to survive. This kid learned discipline, he found pride,

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Speaker 1: identity all through rustling, all while not knowing that wrestler

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Speaker 1: would change his life. So the story of Henry Sahudo

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Speaker 1: is not just about fighting. It's about his family. He

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Speaker 1: sacrificed a lot. There was insecurity, confidence in what happens

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Speaker 1: when a person believes in themselves and then goes out

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Speaker 1: and they build themself peace, by peace. Now, of course

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the legacy, and we'll get to

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Speaker 1: his fights, his Olympic gold medal and everything else. But

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Speaker 1: first I want you to learn who Henry is as

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Speaker 1: a person, not the persona in all the other stuff

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Speaker 1: that we have seen from Henry Sahudo. I want you

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Speaker 1: to know Henry the guy that I met as a

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Speaker 1: young boy in Colorado Springs, because I think once you

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Speaker 1: get to know that guy, you can understand Henry Sahudo

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Speaker 1: much better. Guys, welcome into great Henry Sahudo.

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Speaker 2: I won't I won't be as annoying my boy, Henderson Hudo. Now,

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Speaker 2: thank you to see dad. What a hell of an intro, dude,

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Speaker 2: What a hell of an intro. You know it's funny, dude,

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Speaker 2: It's a fuck You're so good at that. I think

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Speaker 2: ever since we, uh, ever since I met you, you've

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Speaker 2: always had this talent of being able to communicate and

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Speaker 2: even and even Kevin Jackson. But I said, man, that dude,

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Speaker 2: that dude, he got a mouth Piesantom, you got a

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Speaker 2: mouth pieceanom And I turned it into a job. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can turn it into you turn it into millions?

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Speaker 2: Can say that? Can I say millions, it's been I've

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Speaker 2: been blessed. Yeah for sure. Man, Well thank you man,

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Speaker 2: thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Henry, when you strip everything away right the Olympic

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Speaker 1: gold medal, the UFC titles, When people want to know

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Speaker 1: who Henry Shudro is, like, how would you describe Henry Sahudro.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, A little bit of cringe, a little I

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Speaker 2: think a little bit of what people see. But someone

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Speaker 2: that's very very soft driven, someone that that that wants

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Speaker 2: actually bring it to life, you know, like I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget it, man, I want like going out to the

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Speaker 2: Olympic Train Center, being out there with you because I

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Speaker 2: was able to watch you in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: like train for the Olympics, you know, so I remember

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Speaker 2: seeing you like go through the whole nine. So I

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Speaker 2: and and I knew that a lot of that stuff

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I think for me as

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Speaker 2: I mean. It's super competitive that sometimes so competitive that

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Speaker 2: somethings I can suck the fun out of it. And

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Speaker 2: sometimes having having that pressure being backed up with fighting

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Speaker 2: me a little bit did you did you learned? Did

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Speaker 2: you learn to deal with.

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Speaker 1: That competitive aspect? Because it can be overwhelming. I live

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Speaker 1: like that, but ultimately it allows you to become who

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I think a lot of you want to

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, that's why you build

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Speaker 2: what part of you, that child that went to bed

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Speaker 2: still lives inside it? Like inside of you right now?

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Speaker 2: Can you still pull back on that person today and go,

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Speaker 2: I remember those feelings as a young kid that I

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Speaker 2: much as you accomplished, Man, I wish I could feel

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Speaker 2: it's like, dude, I'm back. Unless you don't have that

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Speaker 2: Normal. My mom didn't believe in bird control too, bro,

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Speaker 1: My mom was losing her mind. That's this woman. I'm

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Speaker 1: I know your mom was strong, but there are seven

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Speaker 2: So it's the nitty gritty side of things. But I

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Speaker 1: What chance did he kind of have? That's hard, man, exactly. Man.

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Speaker 1: I think you develop empathy when you become a father

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Speaker 2: For me as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I would never do that to my kids, but I

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Speaker 2: Honestly, just the attitude of no excuse, you know what

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Speaker 2: to understand that that you don't want that ship to

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00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 2: be forever. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, no,

431
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta get out, I gotta find something.

432
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: I gotta find something too. And then and then obviously

433
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: the fuck everything changed when I watched the Olympics wrestling,

434
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 2: which they're ironic. No, not even Bro ninety six watching

435
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: box No, Michael Johnson tracking Yeah, when when I saw him,

436
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: when that that that Olympic gold medal with his infamous

437
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: gold shooes, I was I was nine years old, dude,

438
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: and that shit changed my life forever. Man. There was

439
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: an inspiration that came within me. When I saw this

440
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: dude win, I was just like, whoa. It wasn't even

441
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 2: about the gold medals, Like, what the fuck? I want

442
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: to know what that dude is. I want to know

443
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: what it feels like to be the best in the world.

444
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: Had you wrestled yet?

445
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: No?

446
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: No, I had no idea. I had no idea that

447
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: wrestling even existed.

448
00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: Really, do you remember when you first found wrestling and

449
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: how you found it?

450
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, once I saw wrestling, did I was like.

451
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: It was in junior high and my brother Angel started

452
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: wrestling first, and then he I'll never forget because he

453
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: he came over to the house. He's like, hey, Henry,

454
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: you know they they're fucking wrestling at school. Bro, I'm

455
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: thinking w w F dude, Like you know like what

456
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, like this is crazy, And I was like, really,

457
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: I can hear it? And I was like, huh because

458
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you know, you grew up in

459
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: the hood and the you know, in the freaking Borrows.

460
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: You only know what you know. Yeah, you know, Rick exactly, dude.

461
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what the like really, So I was

462
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: already kind of curious about it, He's like, no, man,

463
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: like this is like and he was doing his best

464
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: to actually explain it, and I'm just like, I was

465
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 2: so kind of mind bugle util. I went to one

466
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: of his wrestling meets and that day I was just like, Wow,

467
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: my fucking heart was pumping. Dude. I was like, whoa,

468
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: these dudes are my size, Like they're competing of the

469
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 2: principals coming up giving them medals, like awarding these dudes

470
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 2: like I was so coustomed just fighting, fighting for ice

471
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: creams in front of drunk Mexicans. That uh, I was

472
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: just an ad dude. So the dream, the dream kind

473
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: of came alive when I first saw it, and I

474
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: knew that that's what I wanted to do even before

475
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: I left the pair of wrestling shoes really because I

476
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: love that one on one contact, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

477
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Like I saw I saw that. I was just like, man,

478
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: this is it? This is it?

479
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Do you you? And you took to it like a

480
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: fish to water, Like you were good at wrestling right.

481
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: Away away, right away.

482
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: You're one of those kids that walked into because I know,

483
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: obviously we coach kids, you don't do it to the

484
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: level that I do. But uh, in terms of the

485
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: time spent, if you want it to, you could have

486
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: the greatest club in the country. Just know that, but

487
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: which angel does. But some kids just have it. When

488
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: did you realize that, man, this may not be just

489
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: my hobby.

490
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: I may change my life.

491
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Because I got to tell you, Henry, when I was

492
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school going up in the hood,

493
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: bad student, it's kind of just like the norm. Here's

494
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: a bad student. You don't do what you're supposed to do.

495
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: You're watching all these movies where the cool kids are

496
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of bullies and assholes, and you don't do your schoolwork.

497
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: And then my sophomore year, I won the state tournament

498
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy cow, maybe I can get

499
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: a scholarship for this. And then I went to the

500
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: World Championships and I got third, and I was like,

501
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, Wrestling's gonna change my life. This is

502
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: not gonna just be what I do when I'm not

503
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: playing football. This is what's gonna like determine my future.

504
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: When did you realize that wrestling was gonna be what

505
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: you did and who you would become.

506
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: Ah? Man, Honestly, dude, it was gaining a tape of

507
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: Zeke Jones. And my coach was very hard nos, very

508
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: very hard knows dude. And I remember he gave the

509
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: tape actually to my brother because my brother was already

510
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: my first year wrestling and I only lost like maybe

511
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: three matches. I was like thirty and three.

512
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: I to match my friend my first time.

513
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: I get beat every single week. But he gave me

514
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: this tape of Zeke Jones uh winning the world title

515
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: against Valentine Gerdonna. Oh yeah, that was a great and

516
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: ninety one and bro, I would fucking watch that ship

517
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: every day every day, like how he beat him, you know,

518
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: ninety one in Bulgaria against you know, a nine time

519
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: world champ, a limping champ. And to me, that was

520
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: just like I was just mesmerized by it. I was like, whoa,

521
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that is uh so. But it was

522
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: in a structure it will show you the match in

523
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: the beginning and then it will show you the technique.

524
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: So it was about maybe about an hour and a

525
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: half long, maybe two hours, and every day Boom put

526
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: the tape in, I would watch it and I was

527
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: just like, you know, just watch it, dude, every single day, dude.

528
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: So I was able to really develop a lot of

529
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: skill through that, you know, which was you know, which

530
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: was you know now I'm friends with Zeke, which just

531
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: at that time all the time was like man, you

532
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: know we got into it one time, you know, a

533
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: long time ago. But I'm like, bro, I owe you

534
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: big time. Many You're a big You're influenced part of

535
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: why I became what I became.

536
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like your life was pretty chaotic right

537
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: growing up, and then you get into wrestling, and it's

538
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: about as chaotic as a sport can be, right, because

539
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: the person's trying to turn you over and pin you,

540
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: he's wrenching on you, he's trying to hurt you in

541
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: most instances, especially as a kid. But for you, it

542
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: was a bit of a safe space. How did he become?

543
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: How did you learn to operate in that right, wrestling

544
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: and all that chaos and all in.

545
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: Front of all those people.

546
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: You went from the little boy that was running around

547
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: playing in the dirt to in these full gyms wrestling

548
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: and winning. Like, how did you find safety in that sport?

549
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: I think winning winning, Yeah, I.

550
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: Just desire because I didn't have anything, So I think

551
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: the feeling of winning was was precious and obviously the

552
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: I was such a sore loser, old Daniel.

553
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: Like I was a motherfucker one kids that run off

554
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: the mat crying they have to grab me like Henry stop, yeah.

555
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: Punch like I would do whatever, like a fight. I

556
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: just just you know, just just a kid that you know,

557
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: like they're frustration, like how can you beat me?

558
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: Well, it was also it was probably also because like

559
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: for the first time right in life, on the wrestling mat,

560
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: you didn't have to be the kid that stole shit.

561
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: You didn't have to go to bed hungry. You knew

562
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: in wrestling that if I did what I'm supposed to do,

563
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the best. And there's like a

564
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: there's something to that, right, like I'm the best here.

565
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Here's the problem though, when you're the best so early, right,

566
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: you don't deal with the growing pains. So when it

567
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: does show itself, you act out. I've seen in a

568
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of kids. So my question to you is wrestling

569
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: becomes our identity at some point?

570
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: Did it happen for you way too early? Uh? Yeah, yeah,

571
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. Like it it happened,

572
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: it happened. It happens super super early. Yeah, you know

573
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But there was always like but at

574
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: the same time, I never really felt accomplished. And then

575
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: and this is and this is a fact because I

576
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: I dreamt about the Olympics. It's just about every day,

577
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: like every day as an eleven year old kid, when

578
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I first started wrestling, I was like, man, I wanted,

579
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: what is Zeke Jones? What do he feel like? What

580
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: was Michael Johnson feeling like? Like the dream was always that

581
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't the stage of the nationals or

582
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: all that like it was.

583
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: It was always so free Henry.

584
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Which was crazy.

585
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know if you know, no, bro, let

586
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: me tell you this.

587
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: I swear to god.

588
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: I had this conversation the other day when I was

589
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: watching the Olympics in ninety six, same one as you.

590
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: I saw Kurt Angle in his Olympic gold medal with

591
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: a broken neck.

592
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: They made a big deal about the story, and I

593
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: said to my friends, I go, I want to be

594
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: a world champion. I said, I'm going to win the Olympics.

595
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: And everybody goes, this, dude is crazy, because guess what.

596
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: There are eight billion people in the world. How many

597
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: people can set a goal that big and go I

598
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: want to be the best in the world at something,

599
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: just anything. Imagine to say I want to be the

600
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: best in the world at anything. It's crazy because most

601
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: people think that if you're just okay, you're okay. But

602
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I believe only the crazy ones can do what we

603
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: did because you have to say it and believe it,

604
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: especially as an eleven year old kid. So to me

605
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound crazy. But to the general public, everybody's well,

606
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Henry's a crazy ass kid, So yes, it becomes your identity.

607
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: But for me, it didn't happen n till I was

608
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: a teenager at eleven years old. That that's crazy that

609
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: you could see that at such a young age.

610
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's crazy. I tell people all the time,

611
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: like those who want to succeed, and it's hard. It's

612
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: hard for me to tell a kid at that age

613
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: like have fun, like if it's in them, I could.

614
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: The only thing that I could do is like, hey, man,

615
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna go through a lot of shit man.

616
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Like, Like I almost have like real talks with the

617
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: eleven your own kid, acting like your mama.

618
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just hey, you're uh, you're gonna You're gonna

619
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: have to understand this is a fucking process. You can

620
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: tell and you and you, you have to be willing

621
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: to know what it's like to feel pain, the pain

622
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: of losing, you know what I'm saying. And obviously the

623
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, the thrill of victory. But like if you

624
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: can really take the pain of fucking losing, but see

625
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: the big picture, you're special.

626
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: You know there's gonna be I always tell them, I'm like, Yo,

627
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be pain either way. There's gonna be pain

628
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: in the training room. There's gonna be pain when you

629
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: lose matches. Like what the greatest pain in the world

630
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: is regret, the pain of regretting something. There's nothing like it.

631
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: So you might as well put yourself in a position

632
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: to try and experience that thrill of being the best,

633
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't go through all those emotions, you

634
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: don't become Henry Suhudo. Uh that so many people know Henry.

635
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: But you go from sleeping in a car, sleeping in

636
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: a house that doesn't have beds in rooms, and you

637
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: get called up to the Olympic training center as a

638
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: teenage kid.

639
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: What was that like like?

640
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Leaving so young, away from your family to go chase

641
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: a dream.

642
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Now that I'm talking.

643
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: To you a part of your story, I didn't know

644
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: it was a dream that you had been dreaming about

645
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: for six years already by the time you're seventeen. But

646
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: what did that look like? What did that feel like

647
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: as a young boy leaving home? Nah, dude, it was easy, Dan,

648
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't scary. It wasn't scary, man, it was a privilege.

649
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: And the ironic part about us you were able to,

650
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of witness a little bit. Obviously

651
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: you're getting ready for the Olympics.

652
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: It was in two thousand and fours when you're trying

653
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: to make a run to actually become a gold medalist,

654
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: And shit, I watched you. I watched Jamale Kelly Stephen

655
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: Abbess like I was in the room. Yeah. So I

656
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: was actually invited to be a training partner for Patricia

657
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Miranda yep, because I was the only guy that could

658
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: really compete with it that was small, and I resembled

659
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: a lot of what the Japanese brought to the table.

660
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Low singles. So then Townsend Saunders, who was an Olympic

661
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: silver medalists, you know, he was you know, he worked

662
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: with us in Arizona for a little bit and uh

663
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: he and and apparently he was Tricia Trishaun was working

664
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: with Patricia Miranda and she said, hey, I have the

665
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: perfect I have the perfect kid for you. So she

666
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: ended up coming down to work with me, you know,

667
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, I did my thing, and they're like,

668
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: we need you. So they said, hey, we'll uh we'll

669
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: bring you out periodically, like like you know, will bring you,

670
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, to the Olympic traytion in car Allo Springs

671
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: and you go home and spend time with your family.

672
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I don't just fucking keep me there,

673
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 2: really there? Yeah, So I told him they took me up.

674
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: They took me up on it. But because I was

675
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: training with the women's greco and then freestyle and I

676
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: did that for like a whole month, and they're like, man,

677
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: this kid really has desire and passion to become the

678
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: best in the world. Like legit. But they're like, dude,

679
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: go like like Henry, get out of the restroom. I go,

680
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: I get out of here, like go, rask, go do something.

681
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: And I'm just like no, no, no, I'm this is

682
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: this is home to me. Yeah, food bad and it

683
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: felt weird, dude, it felt weird for the first time

684
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: having all that time. Yeah, having my own bad like zinc.

685
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: But can I ask you this, were you ever guilty,

686
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: like because your family? Did you leave them in the

687
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: same situation your mother and everyone else? I had their

688
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: situation gotten better to where when you left they were

689
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: in a better.

690
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: Place or was it kind of the same. No? I think.

691
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: I think, like I go back into you know to

692
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: say you don't know what you don't know? Like, it's

693
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: just I'm selfish, man. You know, it's the only way

694
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: to be the best. Yeah, it's it's it was it

695
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: was me, it was it was all or nothing. So

696
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: when I got invited to so when I got invited

697
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: for that whole month, I ended up I ended up

698
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: from from from Colorado Springs. I ended up going to Fargo,

699
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: North Dakota, which is the toughest tournament uh in freestyle.

700
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: Ended up winning both styles, and then Sila Glaza kind

701
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: of discovered me a little bit and he was like, man,

702
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: this kid is special and it meant so much to

703
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: me to hear from Sergiblo Glaza, who was a two

704
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: time Olympic champ, six time World champ to say this

705
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: kid is going to be Olympic champion, this kid's in

706
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Olympic champion. I was like, fuck, that meant the world

707
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: to me to hear from somebody that's already done it.

708
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Because I would always ask him like, Serge, what does

709
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: it feel like to be the best in the world,

710
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Like what does it feel like? And I would always

711
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: ask him, like almost have just about every day. You know.

712
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: He would have given me like, yeah, yo, yes, it

713
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: just it's good, Like give me a little more, yeah,

714
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: give me a little more than that. Yeah. But I'll

715
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: never forget it because I wrestled him for the first

716
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: time and this is when I first started at the

717
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: training center, and I think he took a liking to

718
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: me because he saw me. He beat me up a

719
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: little bit, and I know who the hell he was.

720
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: I did not know who the hell he was. And

721
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: he was being a dick too, man, yeah, because he

722
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: saw my frustration, like he bumped me, like you know

723
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: what I mean, like like he took me down. And

724
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: then I was like he can see that I was

725
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: trying to like cry bro, like I was so frustrated,

726
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, dude, this dude is like

727
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: put hiss old next level yeah, and I'm just like boom,

728
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: and I think I might have got to take down

729
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: or something. And then uh and then after like he

730
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: saw me in the corner. He saw me in the corner.

731
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: What now? Like I told him like he kind of

732
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: came up to me, like he kind of like like

733
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: hit me, like you know what I'm saying, Like he's

734
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: kind of teaching me something. And then I'll never forget

735
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: it because someone came out to is like, hey, do

736
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: you have any idea who he just wrestled and I'm

737
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: like crying, bro, I'm like, I'm like pissed dude, like

738
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: my first week there and I'm getting beat up by

739
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: an old man in front of freaking a bunch of people.

740
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: He's like that's Circuit Billa Glaza, my two time Olympic

741
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: chain fucking worlds. I'm like what, Like my frase just went.

742
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I was like whoa greatness. Yeah, I'm just like, man,

743
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: this is this is the I just had. I had

744
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: no idea and I'm just like man, Like it meant

745
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: like I was able to go from crying to like

746
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: to say, man, fucking thank you. Yeah, well that's thank

747
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: you for giving me that time and thank you for

748
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: being a dick. That that's that's uh, that's what that's

749
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: what the trained listener is. Man.

750
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: When you're in there, you're just like with everybody day

751
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: by day. You know a lot of these young athletes

752
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: that are so special, right, because we are all special

753
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: in our own way, but not like you, because we

754
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: don't get plucked out of our communities and stuck into

755
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: that situation. Do you ever think back to your childhood

756
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: and go, man, I missed a lot. Do you ever

757
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: think like I missed a part of growing up because

758
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: I always you had to have like proms and dating

759
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: as a kid, and you gave all that away.

760
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, maybe, But I don't. I was so in

761
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: love with the dream that that I just that that's

762
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: something that just never existed. But but but but but then,

763
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: but then what about this?

764
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: Though you're in high school with those with such an

765
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: elite mindset, were you able to even communicate with the

766
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: kids around you, Like, was it hard to to to

767
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: talk to them and make friends? And was it hard

768
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: because you were thinking on such a different level.

769
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.

770
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

771
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that maybe I

772
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: could have had a little bit more fun, like if

773
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, and naturally, I've

774
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: always kind of been naturally since the beginning, I've always

775
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: been cocky. There's always been a little cockiness to me,

776
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, prior to even wrestling, prior

777
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: to even winning, there's just a belief. But it was

778
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: it was kind of it was a belief but almost

779
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: to a more of extent, like I'm gonna show you

780
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna fucking taunt you and trow you while

781
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: I do it type of mentality. Yeah, you know what

782
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I've kind of always been like that.

783
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: But obviously the wrestling did humble me so that even

784
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: part of my retirement, I was so far into wrestling

785
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: that the year of two thousand and seven, year there

786
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: World Championships, trained my ass off to did the whole thing.

787
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: Didn't score a point at the World Championships. I fucking

788
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: didn't just didn't do anything. Got tacked by the Iranian

789
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: first match, And I feel like that's the time where

790
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: like my like the love of the like the pain

791
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about pain, pain, the pain started to really

792
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: just take a toll on me. Nothing nothing physical, but

793
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: just the pain of hurt. But still then I still

794
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: kept my the project. I still had that dream while

795
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: feeling that hurt, Like I still believed in the dream,

796
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like, but man, I

797
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: was struggling to really still try to keep that dream

798
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: and kind of still fucking feed it and elevate it

799
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: and give it shine and feed it water, you know

800
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Yeah, while still feeling that pain. So

801
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: I started kind of struggling there, and I think that

802
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: was year that I was like, man, I'm getting I'm

803
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: getting sick of this shit.

804
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: You started to burn out a little bit, as you

805
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: would expect.

806
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think maybe burn up maybe just

807
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: maybe just more just getting sick of it, like like

808
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: like I just didn't want to feel the pain of losing.

809
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: So a lot of people asked me, like, dude, what

810
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: was the secret to become Olympic champion? I was like, bro, yeah,

811
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: of course it was desire. Of course it was a dream,

812
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: childhood dream, but it was it was probably more of

813
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: not feeling the pain of losing that wanted me the

814
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Olympic Games. I did not want to feel that shit,

815
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Like you know what, I'm saying like I had, even

816
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: even in begen Bro, I had thought about fucking jumping

817
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: on the plane and just leaving, Like you know what

818
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It was like, dude, I've worked my whole

819
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: life in these next two weeks, like shit's about to

820
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: go down, and what if I don't win? Yeah, you

821
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that's all I was gonna say. Man,

822
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: did you feel like you had to win?

823
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people made a lot of sacrifices for

824
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: you to be who you are and there's a lot

825
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: of pressure that comes with uh, not doing it. But

826
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: when you tell me I thought about maybe just flying off,

827
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Like was that a fear of failure for yourself? But

828
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: also coach Brands, Coach Shackson, coach you know everyone that

829
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: did it. Or was it more just internally like I've

830
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: got to get this done for myself?

831
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it was it was that it was

832
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: like I'm so I've given so much, you know, I've

833
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: given so much that now it's like like killed me,

834
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: Like in order for you to like to beat me,

835
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: Like like you're gonna have to kill me, man, Like

836
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: if I lose, like I'm going out I'm going out

837
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: swinging like that, like that type of like like never

838
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: have I felt that before, Like I was so committed

839
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: and to even know that I was done wrestling after

840
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: this tournament, like I knew that I did not want

841
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: to do this shit no more. So it's the same

842
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: reason why I gave them my all. It's the same

843
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: reason I was fucking you know. Twelve hours later, Bros.

844
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: I can see the American flag quiver up, and then

845
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: I can hear the national ath I'm like, what the fuck?

846
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: So even when I did win, and it was special

847
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: to me because even when I grab that even when

848
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: I grabbed that flag, I thought about it so much

849
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid that I thought about

850
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: my whole childhood and everything that kind of happened. But

851
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: it was like a relief. Yeah I knew it, like

852
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: I knew it if I just dedicated, still kept that

853
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: dream alive that if I put every ounce that I

854
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: had that it would it would it would happen to

855
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: So a lot of it was fucking sadness too. Yeah,

856
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: it was like a sadness victory. Just say, hey man,

857
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this no more, but here

858
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: you go, like you gave me everything.

859
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: But that comes from the pressure because again, Henry, everybody

860
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: expected you to do well from a little boy. When

861
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: you win far go as many times as you have,

862
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: and maybe you didn't recognize the pressure. Maybe you didn't

863
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: recognize all that expectation and when you did it, and

864
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: it's like a relief off of you. But when you

865
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: win that gold medal that you've dreamt about for so long,

866
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: did it feel finished? Did the story feel finished? Did

867
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: anything feel like left in wrestling? Or you're like, man,

868
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: I am complete?

869
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I am complete. Like my goal is never

870
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: to be a Jordan Burrows with you. Who fuck man?

871
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: I admire dudes that could just complete wrestle, win world titles,

872
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: Olympic games, like bro. I admire those dudes more than anybody.

873
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Swear to god, I just wanted to become a world champion.

874
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: When I felt that dose of becoming the best in

875
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: the world, Bro, it's just priceless. Man. It's like, it's like, bro,

876
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: like what I thought Michael Johnson felt it was fucking

877
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: a hundred times at it was fah. You know, I

878
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: was like whoa. I'm like whoa. It's like you reach

879
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: every emotion. It's unexplainable. It's just a it's a fucking

880
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: It's like if you hit up the best drug ever

881
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: and you're just happy, sad, all these emotions run through

882
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: your body and it gives you a movie of your

883
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: whole experience. We're just like, man, this is what this

884
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: is what death in life feels like. Ooh, it's hard

885
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: to because I tried.

886
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: I want to do when the Olympics very bad. Like,

887
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I know how hard it is to do what you did.

888
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: We talked about your family, your mom. Obviously, your brother

889
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: Angel plays a big part in your life. You know,

890
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: you guys have done so many things together, but you

891
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: guys have dealt with highs and lows in your family, Like,

892
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: how have you dealt with all the ups and the downs?

893
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you guys had a terrible tragedy in your life

894
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: very recently. How have you dealt with all those ups

895
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: and downs in the family, especially after becoming who you are,

896
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: the Olympic champ, the world champion. You know, losing the

897
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: sibling is as hard as anything you do. How have

898
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: you dealt with all of that?

899
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Man? Ah, man, it's fuck. That's a good one. DC.

900
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I'm kind of I'm kind of Yeah,

901
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: that one's hard. Man. It's uh, you know, something's just

902
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: you know, something's just hurt. Yeah, and uh, but it's

903
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: it's also it's also like beautiful too, mana to feel

904
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: those emotions, you know, like uh, my sister man who

905
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: passed away, you know, twenty twenty three about it's going

906
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: on three years. Man, it's uh, it was It's I

907
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: think that's the hardest thing that's happened to the family, man.

908
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, because she played a big role as a

909
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: mother man, Like because my mom, you know, God bless her, man,

910
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: she did her best that she could do. But my

911
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: sister played like a big role in like being that

912
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: mother figure, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And to

913
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: see her like go at the age of forty, like

914
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: five days shiver, forty first birthday, it's just it just hits, man,

915
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: It just it hits really hard. But I think life

916
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: has also prepared us for that, the those circumstances of

917
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: having freaking you know, it is a CPI CPA. What's

918
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: the child protecting from leaving from us, leaving from place

919
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: to place and things like that. It's just being raised

920
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: so young, at a very young age, it's just it's

921
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: just somewhat engraved in you. And I think it teaches

922
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: you man that we're just you know, we're just we're

923
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: all journeyman to this life. We're all gonna die, man,

924
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And man, even my sister, man,

925
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: she's super super gangster like, she was like no, man,

926
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm I'm ready to go, man, really so

927
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: we're able to all be there. I was just like Fox,

928
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, you don't want to go through the

929
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: whole things like no, I want you guys to see

930
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: me like this. And she fought men, she fought to

931
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: the very very damn it. And that's something that I

932
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: could just admire you from somebody. But I and and

933
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've gone through this DC, but

934
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: always even telling like like sister like it's like that's it, man,

935
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Like we're all going to go one day like well,

936
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: I'll see you later type of thing. Yeah, you know

937
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was just like God, you don't

938
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: know how strong your family is or how strong you

939
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: are until some shit like that happens and you're just

940
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: able to face it and accept it. Yeah, that's the

941
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: hardest part. Yeah.

942
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: Once you accepted, though, then you realize, like my when

943
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: my mom past, I was so against it.

944
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: I did everything right.

945
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: When you start to get tough money right, you start

946
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: you want to keep them here, so you start spending

947
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: and spending and spending, and you're trying everything in your

948
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: power to do everything you can to keep them here.

949
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: And then when they go, it's almost like as you realize,

950
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: like you might have been a little selfish because my

951
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: mom was suffering, right, but because we didn't want to hurt.

952
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: We were trying to keep her here and she was

953
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: hurting because my dad passed. Once my dad passed, my

954
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: mom was like she was on just a walk to

955
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: the finish line. She didn't want to be here anymore.

956
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: We just kept giving her that we needed her. And

957
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: it was like, once I can accept that she was

958
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: probably resting in a better place, now, I'm like, I'm

959
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: happy because she wasn't the person at the end that

960
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: I knew the strength that I I uh found from her, right,

961
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't there. And so I think when we accept

962
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: that you're right, we're all gonna go and just be

963
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: happy with the time that we had with him. It's

964
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: It's amazing and I'm glad that you guys got the

965
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: time with your family and with your sister, and she

966
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: was able to impart a lot of wisdom and knowledge

967
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: on you guys. You know, you've lived a life in

968
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: the public eye. When it's all said and done, what

969
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: do you want people to like not remember you for? Like,

970
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: what do you want them to understand about Henry Sahudo?

971
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: Because understanding Henry Sahudo is much different. I think once

972
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: people watch this to have a better idea thinking what

973
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: do you want them to understand about Henry Sudo?

974
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: I think maybe I'll get more fans DC somebody, somebody

975
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: that had a dream that just went for it, that

976
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: was willing a sack or fives man that was willing

977
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: to really go out to put the ego aside, a humbleness,

978
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: even though I portrayed the triples, the cranes, a persona,

979
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: no somebody that was really an honesty, a humbleness to

980
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: him that said, hey, man, let's go out and actually

981
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: go for it like this fucking let's jump off this

982
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: plane and this skuy dive. You know what I'm saying.

983
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing. And I think that's

984
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: the only thing that I could honestly tell people and

985
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: even and even you know, with my career. But like

986
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, I want to give back to see I

987
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: enjoy giving back, and I think that's the purpose in

988
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: life too. Man, how can we serve? You know what

989
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And it's fulfillment too. And it's not a

990
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: fucking Miss Universe type ship like, no, it's it's real,

991
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm I feel blessed

992
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Daniel with my career, with everything that I've done in

993
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: combat spoil, there's there's such a satisfaction. But I think

994
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: now it's that it's that next It's that it's bringing

995
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: up that next generation.

996
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: There's a little boy right now, little Mexican boy watching

997
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna watch and he's gonna say, man, Peters Hudo

998
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: can do it.

999
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: Oh.

1000
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: He might be in South central LA. He might be

1001
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: in Gilroy. Right, We've got a lot of Mexican kids.

1002
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: What do you tell that kid, right that that that's

1003
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: dealing with the bad dad, with the CPS, with all

1004
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: those things. Henry s Hudo, the Olympic champion, the two

1005
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: time UFC champion, what do you tell that boy about

1006
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: the struggle, because man, there's some dark knights for a

1007
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: lot of those kids, some hard nights for those kids.

1008
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, that's it's it's part of life. You know,

1009
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: you don't know what you don't know, and you know

1010
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: your best friend is actually adversity. That's what makes you.

1011
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, when you have a better opportunity to really

1012
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: make a difference, then you could do that for your

1013
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: kids like I'm doing now, like you're doing with your kids.

1014
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: But adversity is your friend, adversity is your home.

1015
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to get I want it really fast

1016
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: before I let you go. M may give you something

1017
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: completely different than Chase. There was there a void once

1018
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: you thought I'm so done with the wrestling. But when

1019
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: there was not competition, was that void hard to feel?

1020
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: That's why you started fighting them?

1021
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: Maybe because I.

1022
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: Never quite understood while you, Henry Suhuro, didn't say, you

1023
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna go do something in wrestling

1024
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: and make a boatload of money doing that. You chose

1025
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: fighting though. Was it because there was just a void

1026
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: in that part of your life that needs that competition?

1027
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just I was a fan of

1028
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: the sport, like it wasn't a money graph, even though

1029
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: at the end it kind of was. Yeah, it was

1030
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: more of me being a fan of the game, and

1031
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: I'm just like, whoa, like this is now you could

1032
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: actually you know, It's just it was more of that,

1033
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it was, man, this

1034
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: is back in the early two thousand. I remember as

1035
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: a family in the two thousand and two thousand and

1036
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: when we would rent like these videos of these vhss

1037
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: of UFC one, two three, and I would see Mark Kerr,

1038
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Mark Coleman, Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Chuck Ladell, like all

1039
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: these Rostler's going in there just fucking dominates this the beginning,

1040
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: since the beginning of the game. I'm like, man, I

1041
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: want to be a part of that that, you know

1042
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, So it was so it was

1043
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: always admitted to do that, even though at one point

1044
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: I was sick of competing already, Like I wanted to

1045
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: do something obviously with his mind rather than always the

1046
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: physicality of it. I never thought, Daniel, that I would

1047
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: be competing at that for this long. Fuck, dude, I'm

1048
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: about to turn thirty nine, dude. Yeah, you know, in

1049
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: a couple of months. I'm sorry next month, in a

1050
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, February ninth.

1051
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: You've been, but you've been not even just competing, competing

1052
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: at a high level, at the highest level. So I

1053
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: don't think people will really ever fathom, you know, of

1054
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: me like leaving, Like even in my prime when I

1055
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: was thirty three years old, I was just it's that satisfact,

1056
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: is that it's the satisfaction leaving on top. I tell

1057
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: people I never fought in my athletic prime. The first

1058
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: time I fought John Jones, I was thirty six.

1059
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: No, I agree, thirty. I tell people of that shit

1060
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: we thought.

1061
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: The second time, I was thirty eight years old, I

1062
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: had motor changes. Bro I had wrestled in my first

1063
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: World Championship set sixteen. So I was till forty one,

1064
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: twenty five years of competing at the highest level. So

1065
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: I get what you're feeling. But Mma, you accomplished some

1066
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: great things. So I asked the question the Olympic gold

1067
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: medal moment, the double champion moment, which one to you

1068
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: sits above?

1069
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, the Olympics Man, Yeah, okay, because it's just

1070
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: it's such a childhood dream, like you know, what in

1071
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: the UFC town and you know this, broc, there's people

1072
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: that have time like what the fuck, Like really, yeah,

1073
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: that could become a UFC chad. Like, but there's just

1074
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: something special about the Olympics. It's it's the oldest sport

1075
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: in the world. It's you know, wrestling and marathon is

1076
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: considered the oldest sport in the world. There's just something

1077
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: that's just different about it that it's been around for

1078
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: so long that you get the purity of the purity

1079
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: in that sport were you got to be good everywhere. Yeah,

1080
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's just not just the fucking infamous right

1081
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: hand or you know, top control. Yeah, like, bro, you

1082
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: gotta have it all to be the you know, to

1083
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: be the big the big kahuna. Yeah, you know, And

1084
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: I think that's what.

1085
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

1086
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: And then and then the reality is like when in

1087
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: the UFC titles like a goal, winning the Olympics is

1088
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: a fucking dream. Yeah, like bro, Like, You're just like

1089
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: I would want to you would wait, I would wake

1090
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: up after I want the Olympics. It's just that of

1091
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: pure excitement. I couldn't sleep because I was like, I'm

1092
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: an Olympic champion. I never really thought that with you. Yeah,

1093
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: that's crazy. You know what I'm saying, Henry. Now you're

1094
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: a dad, you're a husband, you're a businessman, real estate.

1095
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: You in. I see your water company here right now.

1096
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: What's it called. It's called one Water. This this thing

1097
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: is gonna you guys are gonna you guys gonna remember

1098
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: this right here. This is uh innovation technology of the year.

1099
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: You know, we're launching here. Uh you know, it's already

1100
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: in about close about a thousand stores here in America.

1101
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: And the other unique side of this it's uh, you know, magnetic.

1102
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: It's no, no, no, you think you would think it

1103
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: is non check it out. It's just the plastic of it,

1104
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's the way that it's actually pre

1105
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: formed and it's able to stick. They fit into each other. Yeah,

1106
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: they do. This is pretty good, Henry. Yeah. So these

1107
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: are these are some of the projects man, that that

1108
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm involved. You know, I own fifteen homes on about

1109
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, by the end of this year, I'm probably

1110
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna have close to about seventy. I don't think people know,

1111
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Like if I think people see the grunge, but if

1112
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: you really start to dissect and see the you know,

1113
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: the the ambitions side of business that I have. I'm

1114
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: doing very very well.

1115
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: How do you How did you apply that all the

1116
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: lessons from the mat into business.

1117
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: Well, it's just it goes back to that little kid

1118
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: that I don't. I don't. Maybe I don't want to

1119
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: go back to that little kid again. You don't. I don't.

1120
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: I'm telling you because it is real, because it is real,

1121
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 2: and you could go back if you do stupid shit.

1122
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So me be speaking about

1123
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: it now. Yeah, maybe there is a little bit of

1124
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: haunting of going back to that ground stomach, which is crazy. Yeah.

1125
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: And your kids, Oh my kids are good, dude. They

1126
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: have no idea man boy boys. Yeah, there is he

1127
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: going to wrestle? I hope so. I hope so, but

1128
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: I cannot push it. Pablo, we were talking about him earlier.

1129
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: He's good man. We kept them as a little kid.

1130
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: We kept them as the kids because when we kept them,

1131
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: all the sport he could watch. When did he start

1132
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: wrestling like twelve? Dude?

1133
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: See sort of thing is like when he went to

1134
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: Fargo the first time and got beat that was expected

1135
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: because guess what, he hadn't experienced it yet. But because

1136
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: he's got a life in there, and it's it's my

1137
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: son now is not having the success that he wants.

1138
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: And I told him, maybe your success comes later. I'm

1139
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: his dad more than his wrestling coach, and I worry

1140
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: that sometimes that might may be too soft on him.

1141
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: But I trust that I've given him enough skill that

1142
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: it'll come together for him as long as he keeps

1143
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: working hard.

1144
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll it'll eventual, it'll eventually hit man, like, the

1145
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: skills and all that will eventually come in. If he's

1146
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, if he's you know, obviously he's around, he's

1147
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: a round fog. I mean, you got one of the

1148
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: top schools in the country as well. Yeah, but yeah,

1149
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: I can only say, hey, man, that's a that's a

1150
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: one man journey. Only he knows. He knows, and and

1151
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is when he makes that decision,

1152
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: you gotta be that for him. Well, yeah, when he

1153
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: makes that decision, you just got to support. Because I

1154
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: told that to probably dude, I'm kind of I was

1155
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of like a little dick to my nephew a

1156
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm like, what, who the fuck? Like, you

1157
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I had a kind of like

1158
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: me and my brother almost started fighting a couple of times.

1159
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: Why because I was just kind of hard. I'm like, dude,

1160
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: you're better than that. You're better than that, Like why,

1161
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: Like what the hell is going on to your Your

1162
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: dad is like a technician, a wizard, he is genius,

1163
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why is this stuff going on? Dude?

1164
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: Like losing passion, which was wrong.

1165
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: It's just hard to see somebody you love and not

1166
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: get it, not give their full potential.

1167
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: But when he did, I'm just like, I'm like, pubbido,

1168
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. Once you made that decision,

1169
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: it all changed. So then I took him to the

1170
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: World Championships. When he won Fargo, I saw yo. Yeah,

1171
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: so he was able to watch. He's like, no, this

1172
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: is my gift to you as your uncle. I'm taking

1173
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: you VIP. We're going doing the whole nine and then boom,

1174
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: his eyes just started glowing. It's like, bro, like I

1175
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying, Like I want to be a

1176
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: World championaire, Yeah, an Olympic. I truly do. And that's

1177
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: it's like, and you could do it.

1178
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: That's the best. What you leave behind is what people

1179
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: are going to remember for all those titles are great,

1180
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: but ultimately it's about the world you leave behind.

1181
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: Are you going to leave it better than you found it? Henry?

1182
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: I think so yeah? Or better yet? I know so yeah?

1183
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: I know. So it's all you can do, you know.

1184
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me, my guy.

1185
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: Guys, that was Henry Suhudo, fantastic fighter, wrestler, father coach.

1186
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: I just hope he doesn't start coaching too much because

1187
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: then his kids will start beating my kids and we

1188
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: can't have that.

1189
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: We just can't have that.

1190
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: For joining me, check out his water company and support

1191
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Speaker 1: everything this young man does.

1192
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: He is fantastic.

1193
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Speaker 1: Also, go watch POUMP for punk as him and Kamara

1194
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Speaker 1: Usman's great podcast.

1195
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Speaker 2: Great podcast.

1196
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Speaker 1: Uh, those guys do a tremendous job. Until next time, guys,

1197
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: check tap in everything I'm doing. Hold on a second

1198
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: until next time, guys, make sure you tap in everything

1199
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Henry's doing. Hit that like button, subscribe to the channel,

1200
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: and always tune into the Daniel Cormier Show until next time.

1201
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Speaker 2: Peace,